Rumors and Nastiness: Friday, January 9th, 2026

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the Fast 5 Things You Need to Know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast and happy fry-yay! Fry-daries! We did it, you guys! First week of the new year in the can. I think a lot of people look forward to the first Monday in May. Personally, it's always going to be the first Monday in January for me. The Monday in January? Mm-hmm. Because that means we're back. Yeah. Depending on where the new year falls, we're always just taking off until that first Monday. Until that first Monday. In a couple of years, the first Monday will be January 2nd and that will be the worst January 2nd on the planet. I agree. I just feel like that year, one of us needs to get pregnant, so we're on maternity leave. We're on, yeah. But the beginning of the new year is always gangbusters. This week has been so much fun. We've been busting the gangs. We've been busting the gangs. You're here with me. We're together. Redheads came out last night. Like I said that it would. Nature is healing. Amen to that, Cysta. How are you doing? I'm doing well. How am I doing? What did I do last night? What did you do yesterday? I watched the most upsetting documentary. The Perfect Neighbor. Do not watch it. I'm not going to watch it. I was going to ask, like, do I need to hear about it? Like, are you going to tell us about it? I don't... So it was an interesting feat in documentary making because it was the first documentary I've ever seen without any interviews, without any experts. The entire thing was comprised of police body camera footage. Like they told the whole story. It was about this like crazy woman who lived in this really cute neighborhood with a ton of different kids who were always playing out in the yard, always playing in different yards. It was like this real community and she was this curmudgeon. And anytime the kids would be like even remotely within distance. And she's a renter, by the way. I've heard this story. It was like a two year long story. They literally show all the body camera footage every single time she called the police on these like lovely kids. Every single time and everyone in the police, everyone in the neighborhood knew about this crazy curmudgeon. She fucking ended up killing one of their moms. And the mom was just like such a fucking real one. I was just very upsetting and like they were showing us a lot. I don't want to talk about it. I didn't want to hear about it. It really upset me. I was crying. Protect your peace. Yeah, I didn't know. I was just looking for something to watch until Traders because Traders was on at 9 p.m. That's not going to work. Yeah, I'm going to have to get back on our screen or shit, you know. Oh, yeah, we should get. Wait, I think we do get screen. Yeah, I know because I was waiting up till nine. We forgot about screeners. It's been so long because I want to watch like the Valley Persian style. I fell asleep at 9 o' 7. So like, no, but I will be watching all three episodes of Traders by Monday. So you if you came here looking for the Traders recap, we said Monday and we did. We wanted to give everyone the weekend to watch it. But still stay and enjoy this episode. We're going to have a grand old time and then your Traders episode comes out on Monday. Yes, I did something crazy last night. Crack. Crazier. Math. Crazier. I started a book for fun. That's insane. That's insane. Like not for the redheads, just for fun to lull myself to sleep. And I chose a book that I had already purchased in my library, but never read. Like I was. OK, frugal. Yeah, like giving economical like. Frugal. The thing that I bought. That's my influence. Something new. That's my influence on you. Not the new Ellen Hildebrand, but a Ellen Hildebrand called Swan Song and the way she just eases right at me. She really takes the edge off with books. There are like a couple of authors who are like trendy and viral and everybody reads their book that comes out. And I find that more often than not, like it's not worth the hype. But Ellen Hildebrand, like is that bitch for a reason? Not all of her books are the best books ever. A couple of her books are the best books ever. But all of her books are good. She stays winning. 1000. An author you can trust. And there's so few things, so few institutions that are trustworthy these days. And like who she is as an author, like is Congress with who she is in real life. The books that she writes, you know, sometimes you can't smut the author and it's like, oh, no, not even that. I can't read. If you have a favorite author, it is imperative that in order for them to remain your favorite author, you never see a picture of them. It just ruins the fantasy smut or not. Like it's true. Like it's just it's none of our business. And you know that little flap on the book where they put the author photo. The industry needs to get rid of that. Like it's just so much of book writing is fantastical unless it's a biography in which case you're on the cover. Like get rid of author photos. Authors should be a completely blind industry. I agree. Speaking of favorite authors, not just like sour the mood again. Who did you start beefing with again? No, my favorite author passed away. Sophie Cancelo. Oh, we never reported on that because it happened over the break. That was really sad. She was very young. Yeah. She had a brain cancer. She was my favorite author. She wrote Confessions of a Chappaholic series amongst other like swirly novels that everyone would love. And so in her honor, you should pick up a Sophie Cancelo book. She was seriously one of a kind. And like her influence on this podcast in indirect ways like knows no man. Men like you are the reason I left Finland. We love Confessions of a Chappaholic movie spawn from our love of the book, which she wrote and that movie like wasn't appreciated in its own time. People weren't ready for it. And it also is a movie about like excessive spending and wealth and it hit the theaters like the day the market crashed. In 2008. It was bad. Bad timing. So Isla Fisher like was robbed of her Oscar because of the financial crisis. And it's such a shame because there are so many books in the series that are all amazing and hysterical. And they would have gotten the movie adaptation. And we would have had amazing movies for life if that movie came out at the right time. But maybe now people like can watch and appreciate it. I miss the days where books were like very rarely adapted into movies and TV shows. Like the only films and movies that come out are adaptations and it's just it's not good. But I feel like back in the day when things got adapted, they were like chosen. It was special and they were created with like a lot of thought and care. And they were created. They weren't just selected, not created. Like Gossip Girl. Oh my God. Let's not forget. Yeah. They became so big. Twilight. You forget that they were based on books. Hunger Games. Hunger Games. Yes. Something borrowed. Literally the best adaptation of all time. Harry Potter. Also an adaptation. Yes. I forgot about that. But I feel like the books are as big as the movies. Whereas like sometimes the movies are the media like Eclipse, the actual book. Game of Thrones. Yeah. Game of Thrones. Like I actually know one person. The show is bigger than the books at this point. Much too good for children. Let's do it. What did you do last night? Oh, you started my book. I edited the Red Heads. It was a very intellectual evening for me. Whatever the opposite of intellectual is. Like that's what I did. Yeah. But we're going to have some change going on at the Red Heads in order to set us up for success. I mean, okay. Not to me like make everything about me. I've been telling you for years to hire an editor. Jackie, so you're very me like that. Like you're so passionate about it. You refuse to let go of any delegate. I'm very like hands on with the Red Heads. And one, we're going to have help editing. But two, another thing that I floated past the girls that they were not about. Video? No, we do record video, but like we don't have that big of an audience where like we can really be splitting it up. Right. I guess. But if you want to have a bigger audience, like you do that through video. Oh, that's true. No, but we like have video if we wanted to do clips or stuff. But it's just like, it's not party. And we just like, you're all in different places. It's hard to do video when you're all not in the same state. Yeah, we all like, it's just. What's the other change? No, so usually I host the show. I do the outline and do the DB. Like I choose the questions and then I move the show along for every single book. Only when I became pregnant did the girls start doing the recaps like summarizing the book that they chose because I was running out of breath. And like, so it like necessitated change, which was a good thing. Now everyone just does like the brief description. I feel like when you choose the book, like you should get a little bit more homework for the episode. So it used to be your homework was that you have to do the summary for anyone who didn't read the book or like just to remind us all of what happened in the book. Now I'm like, I think the person who chose the book should lead the episode. Okay. Choose the questions. I'll help like move us along, but like you should be the discussion leader. If you chose the book, I was editing last night. I'm like, I'm sick of hearing myself. And I just, I feel like switching it up will just make for an inject new life into the red house. Girls were like, no, but you're so good at it. I'm not like really that great at it. And I think I think they could do it. So we're going to try that. And then we're also going to have a set date. We always like talk a week before the episode needs to come out, be like, when can I record it? These girls are so busy. We're all so busy. So I think we all sing. So now it's going to be like the first Monday of the month or like the Monday before the episode, we record at three o'clock every single time. Don't put anything on your calendar. That will make it easier. Yeah. They are the decks and that gives us then four days to edit. So major change coming to the red heads because we've got like it's necessitated. I know that was hard for you. Yeah. What's hard for me? Like offloading, changing. No, it's not hard for me. It just never really occurred to me. Like it was working for so long and then the last few months it's not working where you can barely get an episode out. So changes coming to the red heads. It's never too late to become a redhead. Redheads always pops off in January because everyone has like New Year's resolutions to read more, to like do more intellectually stimulating things. And let me make it easy for you. Join the red heads. We read a book a month and then we do a historical podcast episode. That's like definitely the cadence at which I'm now reading. I'm lucky. One book a month. You should join the red head. I know I pick and choose the red heads. Like and also the good thing about the red heads is like, yes, you can stay tuned every week. You can also just go read a book that you guys have read and then go listen to the episode, which I've done a million times. We've read not to be crude 69 books. I feel like we should just like end it now. Yeah, right. I just want to say 69 books is so many books. So many books. There was a year that I read 60 books. Like that's insane. That is insane. I really had no life. Oh my God. We have a story today about dibs. No. You know, Kelsey Bellarini's dog died. Oh, I didn't know his name was dibs and it's not a story, but I did see that he passed. So sad. I feel like a lot of people were following along on that journey and not to like genuinely make everything about me. But obviously I felt like really. I had to the story. Yeah. Like her story was a little bit different than mine, but like her soul dog, the dog that she like had her most of her adult life got cancer. And then like he actually lived with cancer for a year or two. And I feel like on the heels of I sit in parks and then her soul dog dying, like I just want to make a PR prediction. I do feel like Kelsey Bellarini is going to be a pregnant like in a year. That's what happens. I'm just saying. Yeah. But I think like regardless of the dog, like she's no, no, the dog, no, not regardless of the dog. And she like said in her song and she's a woman of a certain name, regardless of the dog, not regardless. Like the dog is a huge key player. Okay. I'm telling you, you heard it here first. I feel like that's like saying, you know, Claudia, she was going to podcast this year. Like, okay. No, it's not like, no, it's not. Here's what would be like the more. I got it so quiet. What's the word? Oh girl, you're talking to the wrong person. I don't know. What's the word? Like less predictable. Okay. Will Chase be the father? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's yeah. Okay. Cool. Here our prediction. I love that. Here our prediction. What are the stories today? It's Friday. I'm really excited for mine. So many people came to mind when it came to Weenie. Yeah. Starting out the year in a Weenie like manner, but they were too late to change your year. Actually starting the year out in a Weenie like manner, it's kind of a good place to start because it's only up from here. You can only become Queenie. You don't think like how you spend the early days of the new year or how you're going to spend your year, that prophecy. It could go either way. Yeah. I did want to say something. You know, I've seen a lot of what like what people are saying online and I kind of wanted to talk about it if I may. You want to address the rumors? No, not necessarily address the rumors, but just like speak on something if I could. Oh, I love that. So, you know, the top comment on our YouTube yesterday was that we have too many ads like dedicating 30% of your show to ads is insane. Now I just wanted to like very quickly set some expectations for everybody because we're so especially me. I'm so mindful of like the minutes to ads ratio. Yesterday's episode was 50 minutes long. 5-0. And the amount of ads we had ran about seven minutes and 30 seconds and that's actually not 30%. It's about 15. I mean, actually, I think it's 12, excuse me. And just so you know, like a standard episode of TV that we all watch without complaining has about 30% of its time being ads. So we're like way under the industry standard and I just didn't appreciate like people coming for my bag. So I'm always mindful of it. You don't need to be. I didn't appreciate it either. I felt like yesterday's episode, I didn't even notice that it was the shorter. It's insane when we put out episode less than an hour like the vitriol that sent our way. Like would it be better if we put out a longer episode that like runs on and is boring? We're just sort of like dragging. We said what we said. Yeah. I didn't feel like there was anything left to be said yesterday. Me neither. And when I finished, I was like, things we did that. I didn't even notice. I actually looked at the time and I was like, oh, I guess it's earlier than I thought. Sometimes that happens. Are we not allowed to like have a 50 minute episode? But like podcasts are roughly 45 to 60 minutes. That's what like average podcasts do. So now of course we are not average. You want to come for ads to content ratio? Like you can't start with us. Do not. But if we are coming to, if we are coming for ads to content ratio, like there is a conversation to be had and not about us. Yeah. No. And then like once you talk about everyone else, like then you can talk about us like right per usual. Like we like to start at the top of the. I just like I did the math because it was pissing me off. So yeah, it's 15%. That's what our episode was yesterday. And in a 30 minute TV show tip. Okay. If you want to know because I asked chat. In a 30 minute TV show, commercials typically make up about eight to nine minutes. That equals to roughly 27 to 30% of the total runtime. Yesterday's episode had seven minutes and 30 seconds of advertisements, which is 15% of our episode. So we are about half the media average for our tiny little Instagram show. Okay. So take it up with David Ellison. Okay. Not me. Thank you. Take it up with Ted Serandos. Do you know the viral? Take it up with Bob Dylan. What's his name? Bob Iger. Do you know the viral sound from your houses of Salt Lake City? The rumors and nastiness. Yes. What's so funny about watching the show like from years ago was I don't know what the viral moments were. And it wasn't until the reunion when Andy was like, let's address the rumors and nastiness. And I was like, oh yeah, that is hysterical. Yeah. And it's Meredith who says it. And she has like a little bit of like a lip impediment rumors. Like a British accent. Well, that's so Meredith. The rumors and nastiness. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. She's a little lit when she said it. Who isn't? And also it's now coming out with a card game called the rumors and nastiness. Love that. Yeah. Hysterical stuff. So you wanted to address the rumors and nastiness. Yeah. Like I just don't appreciate that because that's something I'm really mindful of. And I listened to other podcasts. Oh, and that there's an amazing button. Like on TV, like there's not a button. It's not a button. It's more of a procedure that is sort of imperfect where you have to like scroll. Yeah. But no, not if you're watching something live, like you can't. Oh, live. Like. You can't hit the FF. Yeah, I don't appreciate that. Like we don't monetize our YouTube. Like we're really mindful. Yeah, I agree. And I love you guys. And I just want you to know like I love you more. Let the mouse go. When you say you love me. No, I love you more. Who sings that? Miley. Leave it to Miley. One of the meanest things you've ever said in the history of this show, we might have a walk off. How could you? How could you do this to me? What I more so meant was you and Miley do not have the same register. I actually disagree. You think you like you and Miley like there's some artists who you should sing their songs because like you have the same key. So I'm glad you brought that up. People I am in the same key with. Barbara Streisand, Leah Michelle and Lady Gaga underrated. Like I sing every single one of Lady Gaga's songs. Sickening. Oh, I love that. So not Miley. So that's all I was. I stepped right into that one. And Miley, obviously. Yeah, when you say you love me. Yeah, no, it's not. It's not. No, I like I could do it. Love you more. It's not bad. Obviously, it's better than whatever you could do. I didn't even mean to be so shady. It's just naturally like in your bones. Yeah. Shabbat Shalom. Shabbat Shalom. I'm going to have Shabbat with my swirls tonight. Yeah. Shabbat with this swirl. Hopefully you leave that toxic energy at the home. Hopefully you sing in your key when you do the blessings. This fucking bitch. There are a couple of things like you could attack me for. Water off a duck's back. You're fat. You're ugly. You're dumb. You can't sing because I know they're not true, right? But I'm so like my singing voice is so personal to me, you know? And it's sort of a thing that I. Like I'm kind of shy about. If you will. So you agree. You think you're really shy. I mean, I said the other day like, yeah, I'm shy. That's what everyone says to me. Like she's so shy. And you were saying that in earnest. Yeah, I'm shy earnestly. I agree. And you know what? Fine. Yeah, I'm fucking shy. OK, because when you're not shy, there's so much pressure on you. Like when I go to a dinner party, it's like dance monkey dance. Do you know how many times I've gotten up in front of a dinner party and just started singing because people are like, you sing, you know, the thing. And it's like, well, I'm not going to be the shy girl. Like, so, you know, yeah, I'm fucking shy. If that's what it takes everybody to leave me the fuck alone. I'm shy. Finally, an admission. It only took three days. It only took all week. I said it three days ago. Yeah, that's true. Do you feel too shy to get into the fast five stories? Yeah. OK, I'm shy. I don't want to do my work. OK, I just want to be shy. Because shy people get away with it. They're like, oh, she's shy. She was not rude. She's shy. But me, it's like, well, she's not actually she was obviously being a bitch. I'm shy. OK, I want everyone in the world to know I am shy. Stop asking things of me. Like there's just so many big requests when you're not a shy person. Nobody asks you are shy. It and they ask less of you. No, but it's still problematic because I do a show. Whatever, everybody has their own shit. If you do, if you're a showman, how are you shy? And I'm like, I'm just talking to my sister. I just want to say, like I'm shy, officially shy. Stop asking things of me. I'm not your entertainer. I sometimes feel like the bearded lady in greatest home. I'm shy late in life. Not about late in life. I think I've become like a little bit more closed off, like not to be like so annoying, like the more famous I become. It's actually a burden. And I know what like all those bitches were saying now, like famous, toxic. It's not toxic, but it's very hard to operate. Like it's hard to go to like music class or like mom stuff. Like when you're just like a famous person, you're like, what is she doing this music class? You know what I mean? Yeah, she should be up there shaking that back. Well, that's for them, sure. Like if all this doesn't pan out, I do know what I'm doing next. Interviewing for Fisher Price. No, no, no, no, I will be starting like my own in the city. It's called like Little Mice Rose, like one of the Juliette and Ella. Like I will be doing one of those. OK, and it's going to be called Koji's Corner. That's so cute. Oh, so cute. But the thing like your aunt, Alias. Yeah. And so you're bringing like anti vibes to the class. For sure. That's OK. Well, I'll sign up. If anybody asks, I'm shy. You have a customer for life. In you. Yeah. And I know you like are very like what's that whatever the opposite of thrifty is. So I'm looking forward to doing really well in my next career. Cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching, Koji's Corner. Are you ready for the past stories that you need to. We're having so much fun. We are. But I know you only have so much bandwidth being so shy and so I want to just get you while you. It's so true before your social. But I'm being mindful of the minutes before your social battery runs out. Yeah. Do you have a social battery? Do I have a social battery? Of course I do. Do you have a battery? Yeah, but I have a social battery, but it's not like don't need batteries to play. It's not that I like lose like battery talking to people. It's like I lose the will to live talking to people. Do you know what I mean? So it's not that I have no energy to talk to people. It's that I just I really can't. OK, like I I have like my threshold for socialization. So it's not a social battery. It's a social threshold. Like I can't. OK. So when people like my social battery, I'm like, yeah, me too. But it's just like I don't want to be here anymore. I physically can. I just like genuinely don't. And it's like you're at 100 percent and you could take this social battery somewhere else. Oh, yeah, to my family. I like to see with you guys when I say at your house, everybody's like going to bed. I'm like, wait, we're not hanging out. I have unlimited social battery for like key people. You have unlimited familial battery. It's regenerative. Yeah. And also look at the few key friends. They don't train you. No, no, no, no, no. OK. Mark Safe. Yeah, for now. But keep coming for my singing. And we'll see where that lands you. Bitch. 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While I'm going to her tech talk, she's just a great reminder to everyone listening to our show that you can follow me on tech talk. Act role with no job. OK, ready? So Megan Markle, trainer, made a tech talk. She's like typing on a computer. The tech says, me finding out about the apparent mom group drama. It's a Megan Trainor song called Still Don't Care. So we see she's using that as a promotional opportunity, which we respect. As you should. This is the biggest story in the country right now. And it's probably one of the biggest, most mainstream things to happen to Megan Markle trainer in a while. She's been doing well for herself. I just want to say. No, she has like a really nice career longevity for sure. She's had a huge boost with tech talk. But in terms of like big mainstream things that everyone's talking about, you can't pay for this kind of viral moment. I saw also her husband, Junie Cortez was saying something. Everyone should get in on this capitalized on this. Mandy Moore took to Instagram to rave about Hillary Duff's husband, Matthew Coma. So like she's throwing her weight behind the coma Duff side of things, the Tisdale. And everyone's just sort of falling into place. And it's very much clear Tisdale, the women. And it's very much again, don't let them gas like you. They're talking about this celebrity mom group. Yeah. Everyone's addressing it in their own way. As some people are taking it as an opportunity to promote, which is great. It's hard to get attention as a woman in media these days. And also Mandy Moore, then like, you know, Mandy Moore was one of the most famous people to have lost a lot in the California wildfires. And it is the one year anniversary. And the thing that she posted yesterday about Matthew Coma was that like he's such an amazing person. I believe that he like provided a lot of housing for Mandy and her family when they were displaced. So it's like, well, now we've brought up the fires. So. And also I wanted to read, Jessica, people are saying that the reason why the women fell out with Ashley is because when the fires were happening, she was insensitive, perhaps toned up, as Matthew Coma said, because she was posting like about her new house that she's building and like making about the house that she has. Not an Annapoopoo. You don't have a house, but I've got a new one. While other people are losing their houses. Now, I just want to say, I do feel like you can read into that and you only read into that and see the negative in that when you already didn't like the person. Yeah. But also I don't actually think that that's that like there are two. I think, you know, these grown women can hold space for two truths, like Mandy Moore lost her house and Astro Chisel has a new house, like two things. And as of Thanksgiving, they were all hanging out. So that's almost a year after the fires. Like, I don't know. I don't think I think now it's like, well, in hindsight, like she was posting about no. No, but I also think like when you already don't like someone, like you find fault in everything that they post and you could see that and be like, she's toned down as opposed to like, if it was your best friend and you love her and she's just like doing her thing and posting, you're not like. Like, yes, looking into it that deep. It's just like, oh, she's got a nice house. That's nice. Yeah. So the crazy thing is that now that all these women have responded, it's like clearly confirmation that this story was about this particular mom group and the fact that Ashley not only wrote so many articles about it, like died for the attention, got the attention, backtracked and then lied and said it was not about this particular mom group. Is so lame. And it's such a bad. I don't know what she was expecting from this. Like she was really like begging for it. She was posting about it a lot. She wrote this article. She got, you know, some traction from it, wrote another one. Like, I don't know what she expected, but the outcome has so not been pro Ashley. It's really got to be a bad day at the Tisdale French household. I just would love to see what the mom group chat is saying right now. Well, if anything, it's been like the biggest validation on them kicking her out. Like they had a bad feeling about her before. I can only imagine how they're feeling about her now. Yeah, they're probably. Cackling. Yeah. So that's the latest. I do feel like this story is is dying. Yes. And now that like everybody's like using their own music to promote, like I'm officially done with the story, but I had fun up until today. Yeah, me as well. Yeah. And the husband's gotten involved. Like it just it's over. Yeah. And it's okay. But thank you. Don't cry because it's over. Like genuinely smile because it happened. Yeah. And just a reminder, like it is okay to leave your toxic mom group, which is why I will no longer be a part of the show. This is this is a toxic mom group. You literally told me I had a bad singing voice. Like this is my Hillary Duffman anymore toxic friend group. But you said that you have unlimited capacity. You know, speaking like more generally for family. Relationships. Yeah, I was talking about Zach. My husband. Yeah, that's why when I go to your house, I want to hang out. You're going there to see him. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Got it. And he knows that too. When you say you love me. No, you want guys one of the episodes to be longer. OK. No, I love you. Remember when people used to complain that we sing too much? I'm glad that that stopped. Is it? I don't read our like comments. I don't actually I do, but like, I guess maybe I do. So I don't know that. No, like people used to complain like in the comments, like every day. Singing. So that we shed those. Either you've accepted it or you've moved on. And we're all better because of it. To a music list podcast, we are better. A joyless podcast. That was never happening. That was it. We used to get that all the time. I imagine when we added a theme song every day to every episode, that was when they had to we officially shook off. Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Zach Bryan has a new album and he's singing about chicken fry. OK, here we go. I don't even know this because I don't keep up with losers. Zach Bryan isn't holding back on his new album called with heaven on top. So he has some songs. He has 25 songs. With yeah, it's like we're out of weird with heaven on top. I'm sure if we heard the song that it's about like right. It's like a beautiful Sunday with heaven on top. Yeah, it's like totally. Yeah. Yeah, I like my version better with a beautiful Sunday with heaven. Yeah, like how long is Pringles and heaven on top? Give me a cherry with heaven on top. Twenty five songs seemingly shedding some light on his feelings toward his ex-girlfriend. We don't care. Chicken fry, La Poglia. We actually don't care about your feelings. That's what's so fun. And life with his new wife and his decision to get sober late last year. Late last year. So that's like a month. You were right. And also, how is he already writing that his marriage got married last week? Late last year. Maybe it was the year before. Maybe it's been a year and a week. OK, so what did he say about Miss La Pogs? So he has a song called Skin taking after Sabrina Miss Breen and he takes aim at her promising to quote, take a blade to my old tattoos in order to drain the blood between me and you. He said, quote, I'm taking a blade to my own skin and I ain't ever touching yours again. I'm sorry, this sounds like Sabrina. How do tattoos take to your skin? Does your higher ground ever sink in? Do you love people just to win when it's over? OK, yeah, like she took the moral high ground, I guess he's saying, because she refused to be a victim of his abuse. Like, OK, you got her. Yeah. The way. And then each like, then he said, do you still talk shit on all your friends? Need to take it all to the chin this time, stone cold sober. I forget who it was that said and it was I really wish I could attribute this quote to the person who said it because like, I guess what's the big secret? Like, oh, she talks shit about her friends, her boyfriend, like, OK, who doesn't? Like, I literally talked about every person in my life and it's just like, if I love you, I'm talking shit about you. Like, I forget who said it. It was like, yeah, when somebody leaves a room, like we are talking about you, like it's human nature. It could be bad. It could be good. That does not mean we don't love you. Like, we're just talking. Who said that? I don't know. It was so brilliant. I feel like it was like Maya Angelou or something. I've not heard that one, but I do agree. And does anyone know what I'm talking about? I feel like it's a bunch of talks between her and all her friends. And then she like didn't have her friends anymore and maybe spoke poorly of them because they weren't her friends. Right. And she was like in this crazy ass relationship. Like, I just. There's I don't even know if there's anything he could say that I would be like, you know what, I feel that. Or, you know, he's I see his side. Yeah. Well, I wonder how the album is. I'll have to ask Margot Walsh. Yeah. Well, think about our sister, Margot. She's like an extremely, you know, you're like a couple of friends who like randomly like listen to Chris Brown. Like that's Margot and Zach Bryan. Yeah. Margot doesn't listen to Chris Brown. That would be way worse. I just want to say she listens to Zach Bryan and she's not afraid to show it. There's some things you have to listen to in secret and I get it. Like, but she doesn't even. Yeah. So I think that's like more respect. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So let's see if she likes the album. I'm sure it's good. Like no one's saying he's not a good song maker. He just also is like an abuser holding space for two truths. A bad guy. Bad guy. Are you ready for our next story? Oh, Time's Flying So Fast went on with you. It's some music news because it appears as though we have to go to the Houston rodeo who's performing. I've actually always wanted to go. I've been to the Fort Worth rodeo. They had no like famous singers there, though. Kelly Clarkson and Rascal Flats. You're kidding. Wait, when is it? The rodeo is a series of dates in 2026, like March 2, March 3. And it's like different artists perform on different days. We are obviously going first of all because that's like a fun family thing to do. Rascal Flats perform. And we do like Houston Week for the toast. Rascal Flats perform March 4th. Kelly Clarkson's March 14th. OK, so we can't say for 10 days. But like we are seeing Rascal Flats perform before like at a concert. So maybe we just go for Kelly. OK, March 2nd is Riley Greene. I've seen him before. But I don't need to fly to Texas. But if you go for Rascal on March 4th, the next day is Russell Dickerson. OK, also really good. And the next day is Lizzo. But no, a fun fact about me is I've never seen Kelly Clarkson before. I'm live. Isn't that crazy? That is crazy. You haven't lived. No, I know. And like I've seen Russell Dickerson. I've seen Rascal Flats. I've seen all that Riley Greene. So I need to go see Kelly. OK, and if we go to Kelly the day before her is Shabuzy. Your favorite. And the day before him is Chris Stapleton. We're obviously going to that. Yeah. And that's like a three day run. I mean, it's so fun. This is very exciting. Yeah, we can we actually like we're always like we should go. And then we just like think so it would be March, the middle of March. You have somewhere to be. No, no, I'm available. I am also available. OK. Let's just make sure it doesn't coincide with like Passover, you know, it doesn't. That would be bad. Passover is beginning of eight. OK. No, we're going. Watch out, Houston. Here we come. Hold the cannibal. Should we do it? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. OK. I from the rodeo. Well, of course, we'll do podcasts like for the days that were there. And anyone, of course, like Kelly Rascal, come on the pocket. Oh, maybe that's where we get Kelly. Let's take an RV. You know, it's my dream because I fucking love that movie, RV with Robin Williams and Cheryl Hines and Jojo. Let's do it like let's all load up in an RV. What would drive the RV, though? My husband's a good driver. OK, but Jackie, but like RV is not. No, he can't like we've been just spent the next two, three months like getting his RV license. Yeah, OK, I'm open to it. Then it's not fun for your husband. So we get like have a driver, but then there's like this is a random guy in the car with us, you know. OK, I'm putting Houston in to see how long the drive is. I just want to say and we can like I would die 16 hours. But I think that like we drive eight hours one day, like stay somewhere, G overnight. I guess it's just like 16 hours. We're not driving. We're not in a car. We're in like a playground. Like and if we break it up to two days, how do people? Well, to be clear, we also could break it up until like five days and like stop and see places, you know, if you wanted to. OK, that's a misery. Remember when the Beerman's did that on Don't Be Tardy? Oh, man, this is my dream. As long as I get the bed in the back and you guys sleep in the bunk beds, of course. No, I'll be much thinner by March due to the set bound. So I might be able to take one of those bunk beds. Imagine the kids. I'm telling you, it would be amazing. Car seats. Do you car seat? Yeah. You know, that's like not as fun. It takes up like a lot of space. No, no, it's fine. Like in the front. They sleep in a car seat. Oh, yes, sleeping at night. No, we're going to sleep in a hotel. Remember, we just said we're going to stop. OK, and like, should we also wrap the RV and like the toast? Because now we're driving cross country. Like this is a promotional opportunity. I guess. Oh, my gosh. Just an idea. I really think we should like. Is there like a company that does this sort of stuff for you? You know what I mean? Probably like plans it out. Like if like that would be helpful. Luxury RV. Oh, yeah, of course. It's got to be Lux just to be clear. OK, luxury. At this point, like let's just take a jet, you know, if we're going Lux. And I'm right. Uh, luxury every end. Do they come with drivers? Yeah. I'm the more I think about this plan, like we obviously need a driver. And what's going to be playing on like the screens the entire time? Of course, RV. Have you ever seen RV? I have. It's the best movie. Like, yeah. Oh, my God. I'm like so excited. Just the idea of. Of trips never looked this good. No, I'm telling you. And I've ended up on like TikTok where people like do RV tours or they're like selling RVs. And they're like, here's our Lux model with like the 14 inch platform or whatever. And let me tell you, like these ain't your grandma's RVs. OK, like they're they've got plasmas. They've got Wi-Fi. They've got like reclining chairs. I'm telling you, I could see you're getting excited. I'm open to it, but I don't know. Like, how do I entertain kids in the car for like eight hour stretches? Oh, my God, like music, games, like I spy like so many games. Eight hours of I spy. No, like Kayla would love it. I'm telling you. OK, I'm open. And like what's like one thing between we could leave from here, obviously, because it's closer, we leave from here to Houston. Like one thing in the middle that we like absolutely need to say. There's a couple things. Like, first of all, we would like be driving through the panhandle. So like we could also stop in like Northern Florida, like 30 a, which is beautiful. I don't know if you've seen. OK, I don't need to leave Florida, like go see more Florida. It's like it's literally different, but New Orleans. Oh, my God, we got to do it. Like, actually, I feel like New Orleans might take us out of our way a little bit. Houston really is the eastern most part of Texas. I didn't even really that works for our trip. It's right there. That really works for our trip. We pass through like what, like Louisiana? We pass through. So we drive up Florida to the left. What about the Grand Canyon? Is that anywhere nearby? No, nowhere nearby. Yeah, no, it's really Louisiana to a state park. I've never been to a national park. Like we could hit a little bit of Alabama and Missouri, Mississippi. OK. So like Mobile, Alabama. Oh, my God, you're kidding me. Mobile, Alabama. I'm not even joking. You know what I have to say? No. Oh, my God. Ready? But I somewhere else that we actually have to go. Just hold on. We have to go to Mobile, Alabama, so I could literally do this. I stepped off the bus in Mobile, Alabama. The sun was slowly setting on the bay. It was six o'clock on a summer Friday afternoon. Shabbos was an hour away. We walked around the town wondering what to do because Shabbos is no time to be feeling blue. But then I saw a man who looked the same way, too. I was quite relieved to find a fellow Jew. Two, three. I asked the man I saw how many Jews in this town. Whoa, he said to me, there used to be a minion around. Well, then one of us passed away and we've been feeling down. But now it seems as though another Jew has been found. Won't you stay with us for Shabbos, minion man? Won't you stay with us for Shabbos? Minion man. There's another verse, but I won't bother you guys with that. Do you not know Minion Man? I do. A classic song from the Onyx. I was just looking up ways to shave off time on the trip. But the other place. Of course, I'm over here envisioning dreams for our trip and you're over here trying to shorten it. Yeah, if we flew to the top of Florida and then started our drive from Tallahassee. Is that better? Yeah, we would come out. What about Seaside? Yeah, that's like. OK, so I have some friends we should visit and Seaside the Reeds. That's what I'm saying. That's what I said, 30A, the panhandle. OK, that's why I said when we drive through, we actually should stop there. It's very partying. OK, so we'll spend a week at my friend the Reeds House. They have a sick house and they're always inviting us. So we'll go. And then maybe they'll come with us. Oh my God, this is so fun. The other place that's on the way is Pensacola. Jackie, we have to go on this trip. She's from Pensacola. That's not much bigger than Maysville. If you guys know that one time I auditioned for a long hour Svu episode and it was in my monologue, I obviously didn't get the part because I was obviously too beautiful for it because I needed someone really ugly, like an actual bridge troll. OK, we have to go and I have to stand outside the Pensacola time and like do the monologue. I'll have to find the script in my email somewhere. And I have another idea for how we could. I don't want to talk about this anymore because I know we're not going to do it. But this is enticing just because we set our resolutions like make more money. Oh, OK. I'm money making shows along the way to an area that like we have no plans to otherwise. And then the RV is an expense and because we're not touring because we're not like touring artists. No, yet. But that's always our thing. Like we always say if we go somewhere like we should do a show to pay for the trip. Yeah, let's start. Mobile Alabama. We're huge in Alabama, by the way. I've done like a ton of stand up in Alabama, like all over. So we should do a show in Pensacola. And then I also saw Lake Charles. I like the name of it. OK, Charles. Charles. Lake Choo-Chee. Lake Choo-Chee. OK, so can't wait to never do this, but it was fun to envision. I feel like if it's meant to be, it will come together, you know, if like if the stars align. Yeah, if the Houston rodeo reaches out and is like, we would love to have you. But we could like if somebody dropped out, we'll do a live podcast instead of like, you know, and maybe one of us could sing. I wonder which one. Are you ready for our next story? If it's our next story that's brought to you by Rocket Money, the heart of the sponsor, I literally was telling Jackie before the show, I have tightened my purse strings so much, I'm actually even shocking myself. And the beginning of the year is such a time for like budgeting, for cutting back financially, being a little bit more economical. 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Our next story, Khloe Kardashian reveals how her family handles money-splitting costs. Oh, yes. So Khloe took to her podcast to talk about how the girly split costs on certain items and their philosophy around sharing and paying for each other. So she said, me and my sisters do not vet know each other, but we always take turns. She said, I would never go with one of my sisters and expect for them to always pay. We always rotate. It's just never really a thing, because everyone's really respectful with each other. She said, she recently footed the bill for Kim with their kids. Her kids and Kim's kids all needed new shirts for Spirit Day, and they have this little shop, and that only accepts cash. So Khloe, Kim didn't have any money, so I was like, I'll get it for you. It's nothing. And she was like, I'll pay you back. I'll tell my business manager to get you the money. And she's like, Kim, it's fine. We're good. I didn't get it back. But later, she was like, oh, let me buy this for you since you got me that stuff. She said, we're always aware of someone else spending money. I think we're, dare I say, normal in that regard. So what I heard Khloe was talking about how our sisters split expenses. I was extremely excited. Shirts for Spirit Day did not come to mind. I was more so thinking like chartering jets. No, and it's like when they go on a trip, I imagine they split the trip. If it's Kim or Kylie's plane, they're footing the bill for the plane. So how does that factor into stuff? Right. The things that normal people don't buy, like normal people do buy shirts for Spirit Day, that's more so what I was looking for clarity on. And also when you're at that level of wealth, does everybody split things equally? Or is it still like, well, Kim's a billionaire, and Courtney's not? I was really more curious about that. I would never expect them to tell us, but she's opening the door and giving us nothing. Well, I feel like at one, it all comes out in the wash. I feel like oftentimes, I would imagine like someone's planning a trip. Like they want to take their kids to the mountains. We're going on this trip. Does anyone want to come? And everyone sort of like tags along. Now, I imagine if you're always tagging along and you're never like doing your own trip, paying for your own trip, then like you might not continue to get invited if people feel like they're always paying for you. But I'm sure it's like akin to normal families, just on a much bigger scale. Yes. Like I've never Venmoed you. No. For anything. No, but we do Zell one another for like bigger stuff. Yeah, we do Zell one another. Yeah, not that much. Not really. It's more so just like you get the next thing. Yeah, yeah. I actually can't recall the last time I Zelled you. I can recall the last time I Zelled you, because I'm me. But also because it was just so recently on New Years, for our hair. For our hair. Okay, yeah. But I didn't ask you to. No, but Jackie, you were the one who like coordinated ever. It's someone coming to like do all of our hairs, then you paid for everyone's hair. And I was like, well, no, don't pay for everyone. I'll pay for mine and some else. You know, like a little, little jush. That was very sweet of Koji. I didn't ask. I was happy to do it. Cause I'm not like, I'm mindful of finances, but I'm not disgusting. Like, I'm, oh, I'm never going to leave people being like, oh, she didn't pay her, she didn't. Like I'm generous, but I'm just like having a nightmare fit about it when I get home, you know? Yeah. Like I'm paying for everyone and then crying about it. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like I don't think anybody's ever described me as like not generous or cheap. Except for Ben, cause he's the one who like, here's how I truly feel, you know? Like that fucking bitch was just like. You were just telling me this morning. How much you think she didn't pay me back? How you truly feel. I literally like, yeah. Because at the beginning of the year, like. Yeah. You want to start rocking money. You want to start on the right foot and be financially mindful. Yes. And I was being like a little nutty, like at the end of last year, like I moved to apartments, like my rent is much more. Like I'm just like more, I'm like here, like just like spending money, like, like when am I going home? I don't know. Like I'm just being nutty. Yeah. That's why we have to go on tour. Yeah. Right. Of course. Everything will be better after the tour. The RV. The RV tour. Yeah. That would be hysterical. Well, when we don't do it. I'm just like reverse-psychologizing. No, I'm open to it like for the kids, you know, because obviously an RV doesn't sound like my idea of a good time. I get motion sickness. I don't like to travel backwards or sideways. Like I'm going to have to be sitting shotgun. Next to the driver. In the jump seat. Yeah. But like if it's going to be a great experience for the family and for my kids, like I will be open to it. I'm so excited. Are you ready? I'm going to start like whispering to your kids, like tell your mommy when I go to the RV. Cause then like if they're like, when are you going to go to the RV? I should be like, okay. Yeah. Then I'll plan the best RV trip ever. You won't even have to plan it. Great. It's free. Guys, come here. Are you ready for our final story? Kendall Jenner is addressing the rumors that she's a lesbian. Oh, I thought you were saying she's addressing the rumors that like her plastic surgery. No. Yeah. Because she said she's never had anything done except for baby Botox in her forehead. No filler, no nose job. She said that. No lip. No lip. That was really crazy. And she said she's never had a nose job. Like Bible on my life, I've never had a nose job. She said that she took Accutane. And there are like. And I grew her lips. There are theories that Accutane shrinks your nose. Like people have said that like, there's no medical data that proves that. But a couple of people were like, I took Accutane and I swear to God, like my nose got small and she said that's what happened to her. I can believe that Accutane is extremely powerful and potent. Yeah. And like. Strong. Strong. So I can believe that lip. Lip. I'm curious about, she said no fillers. Yeah. But so what is she saying about her being a lesbian? Yes. I forgot that people think that. I haven't thought about it in a while. She's breaking her silence on the rumors that she's secretly gay. I'm cracking up. She went on In Your Dreams podcast. That's also where she said the plastic surgery thing. Oh, okay. And she talked about the gay rumors. She said, there's this whole side of the internet that thinks I'm a lesbian. She confirmed that she is not gay, but that she would have no problem coming out if she were. She said, I understand that coming out is not an easy thing for anybody, if not most people. And I'm not saying that's an easy thing, but knowing, and I can speak for myself here. It's so funny, all the coffee, like all the different coffee. Yeah, right. Don't cancel me. I know it's hard. I do this. I know for everyone it's different, but for me, if I can speak on my own experience, she said, if I can speak for myself here and knowing myself, I think at this point in my life, I'd be out if I was. She acknowledged that she knows coming out is not an easy thing to do. She's just saying, I'm just saying that knowing me and knowing how I'd want to live my life, I would. I'd have no problem being that. She reflected on the narrative that she's hiding this thing from her fans. She said, I've seen really fucked up things that are like it's bad for business. And I'm like, what? How? I don't understand it. All's to say, as of today, I am not gay. I don't think I will be, but I'm not closing doors to experiences in my life. Okay, I mean, that's like one way to throw people off if you are. I know that people thought that, because there are a couple of things about her that's not like typical girl. You're like, I'm a nerd and I like horses. But I don't think that, I haven't thought that for a while. I do know that people think that. It's not that big of a corner of the internet. A couple of years ago, people thought it. It's really not huge. She's acting like gay lore. People do, there are- I do feel like people sometimes think that about her. And I do think it's because, and she said this too, she's not public in her relationship, so you never really see her loved up with a guy. I don't know why people immediately then think that she's gay. I guess also compared to her sisters who are oddly traditional in the sense of having kids. And she's the only one who doesn't have kids. Maybe that's why, I don't know. No, but it's been a while that this is just, but first of all, I believe her because that's what she said. And yeah, all of her reasons, if she were gay, she would come out. There are a lot of people in her industry who are, and it doesn't affect- Yeah, I feel like what she's saying without trying to- And also her dad is trans. Right, right. I feel like what she's- It's a welcoming space. Trying to say without being insensitive, because like I said earlier this week, there are people, but for the most part, I feel like we've evolved past gayness. It's the least big deal. Especially in certain industries and- In Hollywood specifically. And parts of the country. It's not the big deal that it once was. Right, and coming out, I think these days, looks a lot different than it did 10, 20 years ago. And I think that's kind of what she was saying. So yeah, I didn't really wonder if she was Les, but she's not cool. She's not, but it's also like- And like she didn't close herself off to it though. Interesting to note. Well, she can't, you know, all the different- I do also think, like if you are really deep on like the gay lore, like there is- She's involved. There could be, because she was a part of, a lot of people forget, because so much has happened in pop culture, but like Kendall briefly was in Taylor's Girl Gang, like via Gigi. And then Cara Delavie, and like there was like a lot of Les energy pulsing through that. And Kendall then like ending on bad terms. Now, of course it has to do with her sister, but like you could, if you were a theory person, you could look into her involvement in that group as well. I agree. Maybe the group got a little lesy. Yeah, and then it was like weird, and they couldn't like talk to each other, and then they all stopped being friends, you know? Yeah, cause are you a gay lore truther? I am not a gay lore truther, however, I'm not. I'm not at all. Like Taylor's like literally been telling us for years, she's like loves Dick, like she loves guys, she couldn't have more boyfriends. Like I do think her friendship with Carly Closs, that's the only thing for me, that I feel like is a little curious. Like maybe they did fall in love, and like it was so fast, so furious. There are a lot of lyrics that point to, there's just like, yes, there's a lot of Carly Closs, but maybe it was just like a crazy friendship. I don't know. That's the only thing I'm like a little like, well, but for the most part, no I don't. And I don't think you could be like Taylor, you could be like engaged to Travis while being a lesbian, I don't. No, or bisexual. Oh, except I did see, cause I end up on the craziest parts of the internet, I did see what gay lore says about Travis, cause to me, like if you ever thought Taylor was a lesbian, Travis, like everything's over now. Well Travis is gay, they say. But bisexual, you're being so binary. Okay, I'm shy and I'm binary, sure. What they say. Travis is what? Travis is gay. And you know Ross, his roommate, who like looks just like him, sorry, not his roommate, his friend who looks just like him, that's his boyfriend, the gay lore says. I don't know Ross. Oh yeah, he's like there all the time. You've definitely seen him. He is Travis's roommate and lover. And Taylor's lover is whomst. I don't know who they say she's currently dating. You know, there was the fiddler in her band. No, I don't know about the fiddler. Yeah, there was a fiddler. She played the fiddle. That Taylor loved. Back in the early, this is what, and I don't think this at all. A female fiddler? Yeah, I think her name was Emily and they were like really close. And Taylor was like on the trajectory. I think it was like the fearless era. And you know, management saw what was going on and they sent that fiddler packet. And she was literally never to be seen again. She literally vanished. And that's what gay lords people say. I don't think that. I'm just letting you know what they think. Thank you for letting us know. About the fiddler on the tour. The fiddler on the tour. Well, thank you Kendall for clearing that up. It's also just like funny to when people like address like really like. Obscure. Internet rumors about themselves. It's like they see these things. Not only that, but a lot of celebrities will go out of their way to address like the most random niche, not like the thing, you know? But that's not what we're actually saying. What are people wondering about Kendall right now? I actually think that this sort of floats out there. Every now and then. Cool that she addressed it. Shall we dive on to Queenie and Weenie of the Week? Yes, we shall. Queenie and Weenie of the Week is our weekly segment we do every Friday. It's sort of the last thing we leave you with on Fridays. To sort of wrap up the week, take a look at the week at a glance, and we deliver two awards. Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week. They're pretty self-explanatory. If you did something amazing this week, you might be Queenie of the Week. And if you did something kind of lame this week, you might be Weenie of the Week. And don't take it to heart. It is what it is. Now I think we should just sort of get the Weenie out of the way because we obviously both have the same Weenie. Say it on three. One, two, three. Ashley Tisdell, French. Now her writing, she might not have been Weenie of the Week. If she hadn't then released the PR, I'm a registered Democrat. This isn't about the celebrity group. It's about a different group of friends. That huge, she saw obviously the wind changing and tried to, she wanted attention and she got it. I want to give an honorary mention to Hailey Duff. Yeah. She said Screw Sisterhood. Yeah. Yeah, that's Weenie like too. Not as big as Ashley. No, no, Ashley did it on a bigger scale. Yeah. Hailey just hit the like button. Her finger could have slipped. Yeah. I do wonder where Vanessa Ann thinks of all this. She's so far past it. I don't know, she's like a mom. And yeah. And I bet she has a mom group. And a phone number friend of Ashley's. I'm sure she's texting Hillary right now. Like, isn't she the worst? Well, everyone now they're like, you know, when somebody's getting like their feet held to the fire, now they're like going back through their history, looking through and people are like, well, why aren't Vanessa and Ashley friends? They were friends. They're both moms. Like you would think that they're at similar life stages. So people are sort of pointing that out. And I just want to say, like, I'm not taking up for anyone in this situation. Like I don't feel, we have no stake in this game. I feel like everyone's done some wrong. And I don't even know necessarily that like, I would enjoy this mom group either. Maybe I would find them to be toxic. But I wouldn't write two articles about it and cause them to, you know, dislike me even further. It's always interesting when somebody really like strategically tries to do something PR wise and it flips on them so completely. It reminds me a lot of like when Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner got married. Like, I mean, excuse me, got divorced. I feel like he tried to do something and it ended up really flipping on him. Yeah, a little different cause he like, tried to do it like covertly so we can't even. Yeah, Ashley was so obvious. He didn't need his fingerprints on it. We just assumed. But yeah. Yeah. Weenie, oh no, that was Weenie. Queenie, do you want to go first or second? My Queenie, I'll go second. Okay, my Queenie, I feel like I've made her my Queenie so many times, but it just cannot be like over-sated. How much joy Alex Rowe continues to bring to me as a woman in media. And also she's like dropping hints that she's launching something. Ooh, what do you think? Give a PR prediction. So she said she's launching her company. She just said a company. She said that a couple of weeks ago. And then she posted on her Instagram a picture of her doing a photo shoot which we're being led to believe is for the company. She's wearing like little to no makeup and I'm just putting it out there. I believe it's a skincare company and I think everybody pretty much thinks that. Because she's like vulnerable about her skin. She shares a lot and she's made so many things go like hella viral. Do you know what MediCube is? No. Okay, I didn't know about it either. It's now the biggest number one selling skincare brand on TikTok. And her facialist had recommended it to her. These wipes, like these pads, clear up her skin. She's very influential in the skincare space for young women. So I do believe like an Alex Rowe skincare line is coming. I don't know what it's gonna be called, but. I like that. It feels like road. But yes, exactly. Sorry, and she's my queenie obviously because of like her behavior over the years. It's a little bit delayed, but I couldn't let the week go by without honoring her with that title. And we did discuss it this week. My queenie of the week, always a queenie, was queenie like this week. A lot of queenies this week, a lot of queens. Kylie, Kylie at the critics choice awards. Wait, I'm so glad you brought that up. Timothy, maybe my queenie for acknowledging his partner of three years who's given him this foundation and who he loves. But Kylie for being his partner of three years who's given him that foundation that he loves. Also quickly, honorable mention for weenie, Minjee. Oh, I kind of like that better. I don't know why I don't feel inclined to pile on to Ashley to say like, I think that you should leave your toxic friend group and never, and just go. And just shut up. They should never see you again. We should never know about it. Like, but I'm not like so furfured in my dislike. There was weenie like behavior exhibited. So you want to change yours to amandese for you, A.K. and Minjee? I think I do. Because I feel like the weeniness is consistent. It's overt. It's troll like behavior. It's more nefarious. Whereas Ashley to say like, I don't know something about it makes me sad. Yeah, that's fair. I'm really glad you brought up Kylie because I needed to say something. And I feel like I can't believe people haven't said this. I see it happen a lot with celebrities who own brands. And if you've seen it with Kylie a couple of times, you know, she makes her quarterly tick talk promoting the brand. And you know, there are allegations like you don't use your own products, whatever. And she's like, here's my five step lip combo. And she did like this insane lip combo. It actually looked amazing. It was like, well, she obviously knows her own products. She's opening the products and every single one of them is in the box. Like it's a new one. And I think this happens a lot with people who are just making promotional content for their brands. With celebrities a lot, we get like, Haley, like you don't use road. And it's like, well, every time she uses road, it's like she's squeezing that lip peptide all the way out because she's used it so much. I feel like I've never thought that she doesn't use road. Kylie opened every brand now. Where was it filmed? In her car. Car is where you have used goods. I was thinking like, if it's in her office, maybe she just like grab new ones. I'm gonna film this video. No. I need celebrities to, if they're making content with their own stuff, I notice it a lot. Do you think she wanted to show us the packaging? No, because it was like off camera. She was just like, and this is the lip liner, but she's like taking it out of the box. Like, well, if you love it so much, why is it still in the box? Well, no, I think she does love it, but she probably grabbed a new one. Like she probably, there's probably a good reason why she did it. She did that off camera. She definitely uses it, but yeah, it should feel more authentic. Yeah. So, authenticity is the name of the game. To the social media managers, the brand managers for celebrity owned brands, make sure that you're like. But maybe she's authentic in the fact that like, I pretty much use a new one every time. Yeah. Just like squeeze out half the bottle. So it looks like you're using the face wash, you know? Even if you are using the face wash, and you just did this because it's actually. No, of course, I'm, we're on set. Let's say we're on set. It's a set. And part of the act is that you use it often. I'm surprised like social media users aren't more discerning. I see it a lot. I'm like, girl, throw the box away. We're onto you. And I do feel like Kylie uses a lot of her own products. I do. I do. They're a great product. They are good. But like, you know, people often think that. I'm wearing a bit of Kylie today on my lip. I like cobbled together three different lip liners because none of them were sharpened. And this is what I found. I have a sharpener here. I found a sharpener in my drawer. My life has changed. That's our show. That is our show. You know what? I have metered parking today, so I've actually got to go. Oh, wow. So even if you wanted us to like Dilly Dally for the sake of it, Robocop is going to get me. I've never used a meter before. Very yucky experience. I know you're not chronically online. So I do want to tell you that metered parking is actually like, it's fat phobic. I don't know if you know that. Tell me everything. I actually, I feel that. You know, you feed the meter. And when the meter is running out, it says, I'm hungry. Okay. So that's like fat phobic language. Kind of how like you can't use a manhole. It's a personhole or whatever. But skinny people get fed and hungry as well. I thought it was fat phobic because you have to walk and find one. What? Fat people can't walk? Fat phobic. No, it's like. But what? What about walking fat people can't do? It's just like exercise. Like it's. Fat people exercise. It's just harder. Fat phobic language. I don't appreciate that. I think what you said that feed me hungry is fat phobic. That's not real, is it? 100% real. Well, I'm with you guys. I think we should end metered parking. I did it today. I did not enjoy the experience. They don't take Apple Pay. I had to put my credit card in. It was wet inside. It was wet inside. My card came out wet. Probably rain, but okay. Yucky. That really is gross. Where'd you wipe it? Like. I put it back in my wallet. Okay. Like in your Chanel wallet. Why not just wipe it on your Amazon set? Hermes. That, you're not wearing an Hermes set. But thank you for the meeting. My wallet's Hermes. Oh, is that the one I got for you for your birthday? No, it's the one I got for myself that I couldn't stop telling you about. Should I show everyone? No. Okay, it's really. Like in this economy, Jackie, people can't afford rent. That's like what everybody says when they don't like your TikTok. They're like, I literally can't afford to buy groceries. I think you guys should be excited for me. I haven't bought myself a new wallet in 10 years. I loved my old one. It was just like a little pocket, but my lifestyle has changed becoming like a mother and I just have more things. So I was really excited. Like it was a point of pride that I bought myself a new wallet. But people can't afford to buy groceries. So you should kill it yourself. That's literally what people say on TikTok. Like, I mean, I literally can't afford to buy groceries. So it's like, what this has to do with like this girl's forever 21 haul. Like it's just the comment people say now. It's sort of like. This is Wendy's. Yeah, it's like bean soup theory. That's what they call it. Okay, tell me. Bean soup theory is like, I'm making a video about how I love bean soup. And it's like, well, I can't eat beans. It's like, well, okay, we don't give a fuck. It's like, what about me isms? It's like, that's the culture now. It's bean soup theory. That's, I mean, I can't afford to buy groceries, but I'm happy that you took a trip to Hawaii. So we shouldn't talk about our RV trip. No, you can't talk about anything because someone somewhere is suffering. Yeah. So I guess we can talk. I have to end the show. The meter is up. Thank you guys so much for listening to The Toss and the Linen morning show. We do live the fast live stories on Instagram, Monday, Friday, and YouTube. So watching is on YouTube, please stop this. We have videos of the video, thumbs up, post available, podcast, and our podcasts we found. So that's Spotify, Instagram, social media, podcast, podcast, social media, fast review. 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