"Ricky Gervais"

Happy New Year. Hey, Happy New Year to you. Yeah. New Year? Yeah, Happy New Year to you. Everybody sleep okay? Anybody party last night? No. Is it New Year's Day? Yeah. Oh, sorry. It's not New Year's Day. Oh, sorry. Are you missing something? Sorry. I don't know. I don't know my calendar. Stop saying sorry. What is happening? Is that your New Year's resolution? Is to say sorry for all the things you've done wrong in 2025? No. How long would the list be of things you have to apologize for? Hey, can you guys mind if I just interrupt real quick and say welcome to a brand new smart list? Oh, sorry. Go ahead, yeah. Oh, yes. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Hi, guys. Are we rolling? Hey, yeah. Willie, you look really good. Someone just off camera. Who's the surprise? Listener, we've got a special guest. The director and co-star of the great film is this on. Is this thing on? Yeah. Can't believe I'm got the peak behind the curtain here. Wow. Oh, man. This is amazing. That's cool. Well, it's such a, it's so fast. Wait, but haven't you done, you've done a, I feel like you've done a double or am I thinking of you and down? No, because you came down. He came to the live live. I did your hundredth episode. What, but live. Remember you on stage. And then I came to the live. But you've done that. But I don't remember like, but I don't, you know, seeing it, you know, seeing Sean is habitat and you and it's cool. And you are for the listener. Sean Chill. I have it. There he is. Sean, glasses, Jason looks like the guy from the max cell commercial. He does. He does. He still have my key, Jason. You know what? This is fun. Could we have never done this in intro with the surprise guest? So Bradley, once you guess what Sean is eating, don't tell him yet, Sean. Oh, okay. Hmm. Oh, how many of you are? Was it, was there, was there? Yeah, show me, give me a little hint. I just do like this. Oh, oh, is that it? Is that some sort of pie? Is it, is that a glaze on top of an Ella glaze? It's a clip, probably. Hey, it's 931. It's got to be a glaze. Oh, that's her off. No, it's, it's a cinnamon butter cinnamon sugar. Every day is fourth grade graduation. Oh, did you make that? So butter, butter cinnamon on an English muffin, you just toasted. Yes. I saw that. And by the way, and, and for the listener, great, you, you, you covered all of the surface of the muffin. Look at that. Oh, yeah. How are you? Yeah, what are you doing over there? Do you guys have a sleep over last night? We did, yeah, we're living together now. We're back to living, we're back to living, we've gone 180, 360. 360. Yeah, thanks. We just, we just came from press. So I was just like, gonna run and say hello. We were just doing a bunch of press for the movie every day. I love that. We just did this GQ game. We just did this, what was it? GQ. We just did this, you have to guess how well you know. You have to guess how well you know each other. Yeah. I'd listen or they both, they both do look literally like they just came from a GQ shoot. They look gorgeous. These two. Thank you. You're doing both. But we did, and Bradley won because I gave him extra points. I was, you did. Really magnanimous. What was the question? I was generous too. I was generous too. No, the answers were, but what was the context? What's my middle name? Uh, because it's like, yeah, it's like, yeah, by the way, do you know his sister's names? Yeah. Wait, Tannis and Shardonnay. No, Tannis is right. That's good. That's good, J.B. And your middle name, Will, is Will Yum Gordon Arnett. Almost. It's boy. Gary. Shun, do you know how the middle name goes with it? Go with it. Go with it. Of course I know your middle name is Emerson. Okay. Nice. Yeah. Wait, is that right? Bradley, yours, what's the first letter of yours, Bradley? C. Channing. I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. Channing. No. Curtis. No, no. Chad. Close. Come on, Shon. No, it's Charles. Yes, it is. Wait, are you Googling, Shon? No, I know this. God, I wish it was Chad. I'd call you Chad as every day. What's your favorite movie? What's your favorite? I know your yours is with Nail and I. And Bradley. What's your favorite? Bradley. Your yours is with Nail and I. What's your favorite? Bradley. Bradley. Your's. Bradley. Yours is ghost. Ghost. Ghost. That's right. The director's cut. Yeah. I've never seen this. Bradley, what's your favorite movie? See it? You know, I, he knew that I couldn't answer it. Like, I don't really have one. It doesn't have one. He loves them all. Well, you have, what's a couple of them? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, what, what are they? Like, an elephant man, a pock, now, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, everything else coped. Everything else coped, three students. And they said, what is one thing? Here's one, they said, what's one thing about Bradley that you, that people don't know? Yeah. And I said, well, there's a lot. And then I was going to say, I was going to say, because we keep reading people, everybody thinks that Bradley's had plastic surgery. Everybody keeps saying that I'm like, what people don't know is that he hasn't. Right. And he hasn't. Yeah, of course he hasn't. I get like, people, like some people came up to me the last couple of weeks and they're like, oh, you look good. Yeah. Yeah. But it's a great, it did make me think. And then I was like, I was like, oh, I didn't want to get, but then I'm like, I should have, it made me mad because I'm like, people say that all the time. And I'm like, it's such a hilarious thing. Everybody thinks that they know, you know, you read bullshit stuff and I've been cut to ribbons. And I've been, but look at, look how it's worth it. Look at this. Huh? Yeah. What, what, what look is that? What did you get? This is, this is, I was asleep 45 minutes ago and we've got a, we've got a, a, a young, aspiring guest, you know, that I didn't need to do a lot of research for because this person hasn't done a bunch. So I'm just kind of ready, you know? Wow. I mean, you, guess what's, feel great about that. Yeah. Bradley, we actually might need a little bit of help. Give it, give us five more minutes here and, and help us with this. We got it. We've got this. It's a very exciting comedic voice coming out of the UK. He's received some great momentum from his last couple of stand-up specialists. He's got a new one on Netflix now. He's a fan of the UFC. David Bowie, animals of all kinds. Let's, let's get him out. Give a warm welcome, England's brightest new star. I want to get this pronunciation right. Ricky Gurveyes. Ricky Gurveyes. Is that right? Do I have it right, sir? Look who's back in. It's like, it's like reunion night. Ricky's back. Bradley's back. Everybody's doubling up. Good morning, Ricky. Hi. Hi. Good morning, Ricky. Sounds good. Right. Look at the row of baffles behind him. So cool. I know. Are those real? No, it's a, it's a green screen. Ricky, can you do, can you do the podcast and just make sure your camera is covering all the awards before you hop on? If we wide now, we'll see more. Ricky, we never met, but I would have a great thing to see you. Nice to meet you, man. You two have not met? No. Wow. I don't know anyone. I love, I think, I think I met Jason and Will and my first even brush with Hollywood about 20 years ago. I just kept them as friends and didn't add anything to them. Yeah. I love all your shows, man. Oh, thank you, man. Cheers. I loved extras. What, what, what isn't good at Ricky's time? All right, guys. All right. Brad has got a lot of good. Bradley, bye, buddy. Bye, dude. You know, Ricky, I was, I was on a plane, an overseas plane. So I had a lot of time on my hands and I went into their little entertainment offerings there on the plane. And I climbed into office Christmas, the Christmas special. Oh, fuck. I ate that up so deeply, making a real idiot of myself and the folks next to me. Just, I know you don't want to talk about the office anymore. And I'm not asking any questions about it. There's no question here. It's just, you're just it. I just love your, what you do, I could, I could, I could eat it all day. So lovely. Oh, that's lovely. Thank you very much. That's just so, now I've got to be nice to you. Yeah. That's my strategy. Yeah. But Ricky, didn't it look like Jason was reading that off a script, didn't it? No, I know he can't read. Oh, yeah. He was a child star. He didn't need an education. He didn't need anything to fall back on. Nothing. And he's kept his looks because sometimes child stars, they start looking weird. Yeah, give it a couple more, yeah. They sort of turn into a like a weird little monkey. But he's still nearly handsome. I'd better take my hair off and you say, he's still the same. I watched the film with you in actually, carry on. I loved it. I thought you were great. Oh, you did. You did sort of menacing really well because obviously I find you funny. And there was, I could still, you could have made a joke at any point. But it was, it was really good. It was quite, it was quite chilling. Any drama is always one line of dialogue at the end of every scene from becoming a comedy. I know. I know. Well, I, I sort of turned down a lot of, not, not big dramas, but thing I thought they're just laugh. I turned down, they want me to play Winston Churchill. And I was going, they're just laugh. They're not going to be lost. I give anything. I would have given anything. It would have been terrible. I would have hated every minute of it as well because I'd about to have every day the bold wig. Actually, if I leave it a couple of years, I won't need that. But it would have been, it would have been three hours in makeup and puffing a cigar. Yeah, never. But what, what was that? Was it, was it, uh, uh, intolerable? No, um, uh, uh, what was a Quentin Tarantino film where Mike Myers played a German New soldier, uh, uh, uh, uh, in, uh, in glorious bastards. In glorious times, yeah, right? Right. And, uh, that, that, I started to smile when I saw him and, and then realized, oh, wait, I shouldn't be. Um, but it's fine. You get right past it and you're, you're acting talent. Like you never tell jokes. You're, you're acting talent is just incredible. And so you could, you could seamlessly and effortlessly. I agree. I agree. I'm playing somebody traumatic. You gotta stop this now. Because I don't know whether this will wind up or not. I'm just waving. I'm giving you a big contrast. I'm just saying. I was, all the time you were saying that. I was looking at will. I asked you if it was. Wow. Wow. I love the work. I just love the work you've done for animals. And what you've done. And you know, you've inspired many of these people. This is the worst. This is the worst. I smell you. Oh. Oh. God. And just how, how thoughtful you are. and I think for me, that just really, I don't know, it's got, I can really, I'm joking. Yeah, don't, you can do it. Yeah, you're winning up. I can tell. I was saying that my crying show's like laughing. Yeah, I know, you're not very active, but I can tell what you're trying to do. Sean, do you have any praise for Ricky? I do, I sent him an email after I saw Afterlife and I thought it was great. I was late to the party watching. No notes. No notes. No notes at all. No, no. I thought it was one of the best shows I'd seen. I've ever seen. I mean, is it last? How is this the biggest entertainment podcast I've ever seen? Zero idea. I've been pajamas. Yeah, we haven't covered anything yet. I mean, I was thinking about that on the walk out to plug my computer in. And all I'm thinking about, I think I'm about to chat with my two best friends in Ricky Trevace. Like that, I'm not thinking about this going out to X number of people. And I think that's a really great thing. I hope we never lose that. In fact, we did a Will and Will and I and Ted and Mitch did a few of these in lockdown. And it was just, it was lovely. Because that's when you really remembered you had friends when you couldn't see them. That's the, that's how this whole thing started. Yeah, I was that when you started. I'll go, yeah, it was just, yeah, I just stay in lockdown. Did you, you did, you did one of the in 2020. You were one of our first, you were in our first, first batch. And gosh, that doesn't seem that long ago. I know. I know. It was five years ago. And I did that. I thought, listen, let's, let's help these guys. Yeah. And then five years like, uh, right, they need my help again. Yeah. Let's, let's get a little leg up a little injection. Yeah. A little, of course, a little vitamin R injection. Listen, man, we're, we're, we're happy. We're happy that you're on your, you're helping us out of your backdrop with your dusty old awards from 20 years ago. You know what I mean? It's just for us. How dare you? Yeah. Yeah. Look at the most, most of them have rusted out. I used to see you a bit more. I think we're new in museum. It's amazing. You know, this is so educational. Have you not been coming out here lately? I seem to, I used to see you a lot more. You used to like, I know. I used to. Well, the truth is, I, um, I've still got a place. There in New York. And yeah, from like, for the last 20 years, you've come out like, it's got like six, seven to eight times a year. Whenever I had something out, the second series, I'd come out and do the chat show sort of the New York fly to L.A. do that. And but I think I'm not, not just because of COVID, but since COVID sort of things have changed really. Yeah, you could do everything from things. Well, yeah, and Netflix, they've got like 300 million subscribers. They send an email. I don't have to. Right. I don't have to go on a chat show and play table tennis in a snorkel. You know, but you're also doing, but Ricky, you're, you're also doing, you're also doing stand-up so much more now than you were 15 years ago. That's absolutely right. Yeah. Right. So that's, it's kind of changed the way that you interact with your fans a little bit. Well, I think I started off, yeah, right in the director and the B in and stuff. And I'd fit in a little stand-up tour when I could between writing and, you know, and then I think humanity was the first one. I hadn't done it for like seven years. And after humanity, I thought, oh, no, this is my job. I'm a stand-up now who I do the odd TV show and film when I have time. And it just, I just flipped it. And I think in the last eight years, I've done four tours and four specials. And it felt like I'm fitting other stuff in. And I want that to continue. Well, to us, you know, to a certain degree is it does get on the travel. All that touring that's, there's a lot more travel with that than doing the acting stuff, right? Yeah, but I honestly, I do the most luxurious tour possible. It's like, I do two or three nights away at the most and four nights at home. I, you know, I, I hop, I hop private to all around Europe, you know? I'd, I do three trips to North America and get it all done then with the, right, you know, the biggest venues I can play. No, Jane, go with you. No. Yes, she does. Yes, all the good places. She comes to America, Canada, all the lovely places in Europe. She doesn't, she doesn't come to the sum of the seaside towns of England out of season. But, yeah, no, again, I make it a little weekend break. So I'll play Pragerina and we're going the night before. We have dinner, we'll walk around all day and then I'll hop to the arena and do a gig and then we fly home. So it's like, you know, 46 hours of holiday and, and two hours of work. So, and it, it, it, it, it couldn't be better. But still the last few years, I, I, if I do three or two or three gigs, no, I'll wake up. I think was I run over last night? I am absolutely exhausted. Yeah. It's an age. It's like, I'd also, I think I don't know what it's like to be like for people to see me at 70. I'm already sort of grumpy and I shuffle around. So you're not, you're not yet 70? I remember the first time I met you, right? It was the, the, um, in the makeup trailer on, uh, uh, the invention of lying. Inventing lying. And I said something like, so, so you're 40 and you went, I'll think you're 30, 70. You were like that. You couldn't believe that someone thought you were two years old, and then someone like, he said, he thinks I'm 40. I don't know. I still like Mrs. Doubtfire. Yeah. You bastard. It was like that. It was, and then I think you mentioned it again. I'm 38. No, you're not so, yeah, I get it. There's no way you miss being on a set for 12 hours a day. Yeah, come on. I honestly, I do. Right. Because you know, honestly, I, I, I, I, the thought of, I will do it again, but the thought of doing it again. Yeah. Like eight weeks up at the crack of dawn, eight weeks. So at the moment, I'm, um, just finished the tour, but I'm starting again straight away in January. I'm doing warm-ups to the next tour, which will be two years. Um, I'm just finishing the first season of an animation I've been working on for two years. But I've been doing that with having a nap every day as well. So I do all my work. I work, I work 10 to 12, have lunch, come home, I get 40 minutes nap. And then I, so the, I, you can't do that on set. No. That's not, that's not a question. You can do it. I'm a big, I'm a big napkin, friendly enough because, you know, Winston Churchill famously took a nap every day, even during the war. You get full pajamas between the sheets. So we call it Mark Chappell, whom you all know. Chappy, we call it taking a Churchill. So I, is often as I can take a Churchill. I'm a Churchill this morning. Yeah, it's great, isn't it? It's just the best. It gives you, I look forward to it because I wake up tired. I wake up at seven, think, oh, I'll have a nap in five hours. So I mean, it just gets me through that first five hours. That's my man. Are you a good sleeper, Ricky? Like do you go to bed early, wake, wake up early? Do you get pretty good hours, all that kind of stuff? Yeah, I do, I probably do. I think I've had a bad night if I don't get eight and a half hours, I'd say. Oh, good, good for you. Yeah, and you know you have to get up. Like, I know that feeling like it's seven o'clock in the morning, like, I should get up because that's what people do. Yeah. But if I had the choice, I would just stay here, but I have to, I should get up. Well, that's, that's always been the case. In fact, I've got earlier as I've got older. Again, I think it's in COVID. I used to get up at half nine and think, oh, I've got to do it. And now I, and now what I can't not get up at like seven, seven, three, but I feel like I want to. I could easily, if I didn't wake up, I'd, I'd just keep, keep going. Yeah, I mean, hopefully, but as soon as I look at the clock and go, right, that's it. You've had to. I'm six, I'm six a.m. Every day I can't help. And I was just in London again for a couple of days and I, I, it's dark right now until about eight thirty in the morning. So, you know, you, now I've got like two and a half hours of dark after I've woken up and I'm like, fuck it. Really fucked me up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I, I seem to, I don't usually beat the sunrise. That's, that's pretty rare. But Ricky, I will say about this about you talking about going to the cities and I, and I know that about you. I love that you go and you really like that you and Jane go for, go for a meal and you walk around in last summer. I think we, we, we mind to text it about this. You were, you went to Toronto and did some, did a gig in Toronto. One of my favorite, it's my favorite place. When you talked about how's your favorite and you love going to the island, Toronto Island. Oh, I love it. I know. I know. I know. And my family, because Canadians are so proud in the nicest way. They're like, my dad, my dad's like, hey, your buddy Ricky came in and they went and he loves a Toronto Island day. Like, they love it. Is that the name of a comedy spot or is that literally a park? It's like a park. It's like a, it's like an island where, where residents live and it's, it's so lovely. And you just get the, the little boat over for like $10 or whatever it is. And I stay in Yorkville. I just love walking around Yorkville. And then I, then I hopped to Montreal and I love Vancouver as well. I love Vancouver. I've only been to a few people. I've been to, I think Vancouver, BAMF Toronto Montreal. That is my Canadian experience. And I'm from, my dad was from, from, from, from, from, from, from, it was, it was sort of near London Ontario, sort of near Chattam. It was called something like, oh, Punt, something. And he was a World War II, that, yeah? He was. He volunteered. Right. So he, yeah, Canadian, he joined the Canadian Army to volunteer and he got stationed to Europe. And I think he spent most of his time in Britain. He drove, I didn't talk about much to him, but he drove tanks. He delivered tanks to the front. He was in, yeah, yeah. And that's where he met your mom when he was over there? Yeah, he met my mom, got her pregnant. So, yeah, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my oldest brother was born 44. He's, Larry's, he died recently. I'm sorry. And my sister 47 and my next brother, 1950. So I was 11 years after all that. I don't know what happened there. And you, you, you, your mom admitted it was a mistake. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it was about 13. I said to her, why am I so much younger than my brother's sister's? And she just went, you were a mistake. And I love, and that, and that's what we do. The honesty is funny. Honesty is almost being the funniest thing for me. Just, just, just, people to just say the first thing comes out and they mean it. Yeah. That always makes me laugh. Yeah. That's why anger's funny, because you can't help it. It's a, it's a visual reaction. Oh, if someone does that, I want to laugh. It can be anything. If someone bumps their head and they go, oh, I know. Like that. I want to go, that's the funniest thing I've seen today. But I've got to make sure they haven't got concussion. They're not bleeding. Correct. But then I ask people their permission. If someone falls over, I go, can I laugh? No. Look at that. And we will be right back. And now back to the show. Now, what I love is that you're always so beautifully unapologetic about leading your audience with like, this is okay to laugh at. But obviously we've gone through a section of years where people were a little bit uncomfortable about laughing at some of the things that were fricking hilarious. And you get the sense that the audience that you're in front of now that that whole thing is starting to soften and. It is. And it's, and it's cyclic. It's not the first time it's happened. I've experienced it three or four times in my career, that alone my lifetime. But these things, they come and go. They're like fashion really. And it's like, it's generational when they kick out the past and they want to be quite rightly more progressive than the last one. Sometimes they get it right, sometimes they get it wrong. Sometimes things were okay. Sometimes it's the best we've ever been. We don't need to change stuff. But they have to have a go. And I think we have to go through it. And I think that you sort of ride the waves. And you know, I mean comedy seems to be on the front line. Yeah, yeah. Of course. People would rather someone say some are awful and mean it than say some are awful and be joking. Like sometimes they're angry that you would joke about a terrible thing. Sometimes people are angry at someone joking about the terrible thing than the terrible thing. They can't do anything about that. But they can't tell someone off. But that's not mean to tell someone. Is Jane still your most trusted sort of barometer of that, which is funny or not? Like do you trust her laugh the best? Yeah, well, I do run things past her. Because I'm excited, I think. You know, we're just a vessel for ideas. I don't sit down and go, I've got to have a great idea. That's because it doesn't happen. You live your life and then someone comes in your head and you go, oh, thank you. Yeah. And I usually have a lot of going jogging and I come up with an idea, oh, that's a good joke. And I run home and I tell Jane, I've got an idea. I tell her, she says, please don't say that in public. And I know that's someone I can work on that. That's got something. Well, but I mean, I know you're joking, but you're also being serious. Is it because you trust your ability to match performance, to content that it would make it somewhat palatable? And like, yes, I get it's offensive, but I know I can deliver it in a way. Well, yeah, there's lots of things. One, I like the challenge. You know, there's no, I can point out funny things. But there's, you know, they're like found objects, where's the added value? What have I done to it? So the harder dive, the thing that tantalises me more is, can I make a terrible thing funny? How do I do that? How do I make them, you know, an idea with taboo subjects on purpose? Because I sort of want to take the audience to a place that hasn't been before. So you're already a soon as I approach a subject, I can feel the, what's he going to say about that? Yeah, that's the elephant in the room. Sometimes pointing out the elephant in the room is funny enough. It's like just even, and you're probably, you're probably touching on a lot of things that people want to say themselves or to them. I think that's exactly it. Yeah, I think it's exactly it. And you know, when you see an impressionist and they do an impression of a person, and then you can do the impression of that person. Yes, I have the impression. Yeah, it's like I've reduced it for them to go, well, this is the meme. This is, this is that terrible thing. You don't know how to approach. Right, you're right. This is a good way to do it. And it's a discussion. Yeah. I think that excites you about it, Ricky, because I think that I see it in a lot in your comedy and it's something that kind of excites me too. I'm not a standup, but that you, this idea, I can relate to the sort of the idea that getting into subject matter that is taboo or dangerous or that people don't want to talk about and figure out a way to sort of shed a light on it, make a joke about it, and do it in a way that you can kind of work around really hard parameters. That's exciting. I feel like that's where I feel like a schoolboy where I'm getting away with saying the thing that the teacher that I'm not allowed to say. So how do I get to it that's okay and still get my point? You know what I mean? Well, that's the thing. Obviously, you want everyone to laugh, right? Yeah. You can't second guess. You can't try and make anything so anodine that everyone likes it because that won't happen either. Most people are like, this is horrible. This is anodine. So you've got to, you've got to powderize by mistake. If you're doing anything that's slightly contentious, as many people are going to hate it, it's like it because everyone's different. So you just do what you think is right and funny. And I do want to like it, but if they don't, there's nothing I can do about it. Some people say, like journalists, they say things like, is there anything you want joke about? And I want to go, is there anything you won't write about? It's bad. What you say? It's bad. And that's, and most defense, most defense, I've noticed, comes from people mistaking the subject of a joke with the actual target. They see a joke about a content, so I think, well, that's got to be, that you can only be bad. And it's just not true because we discuss bad things all the time when we come down on the right side. So I'm just doing it and hoping there's a punchline as well. There's just, there's nothing wrong with that at all. Talk a little bit about the difference. You do many things incredibly well, but one of the things I really marvel at is that you're, you're stand up persona, and I don't mean to say that it's, it's, it's contrived. So persona is probably the wrong word, but it is, it's to a certain degree. But there's, there's a swagger that, that you have on stage when it's, you can possibly have in real life. But it's, but it's, but it's part of the joy that I, I love it. I love that there's just, there, no fucks given or no apologies, not in an asshole way, but just, I just love going on that right. Yet when you're playing some of your most iconic characters, Andy Melminton or David Brent, like there is, there's a level of vulnerability and insecurity and, and brokenness to them. That is so heartwarming and, and earning and lovely. Like, how do you, how are you able to find the, the, the bullseye of humor in both of those polarizing kind of strategies, you know, ones with swagger ones with? Well, as long as it's, as long as it's a realistic portrayal, it doesn't matter what it is. And because, you know, people are complex. So even my villains, I, I sort of give them a bit of redemption or a bit of backstory or why are they like that? And I think you find that where they're everyone, everyone who's, who's sort of like a little bit nasty or arrogant, it's because some are bad happen to them probably, or they're bad. You know, there's, there's usually a reason to it. And we're all like that. We all go around thinking, oh, we all live in our head because we walk around thinking, oh, everyone, everyone is thinking, I'm a loser. I've got our act a bit. And we, because look at them, they're great. But they're living in their head too. Right. They've got all the same insecurities and all that, that, that's, as you. So I think that the comedy it's best is saying we're all idiots. Let's just just make it and get on with it. So even when I do the swagger on, that is a bit of a persona because I've got to have that, I've got to have that full arrogance. So me falling down is funnier. If I just come out and clown and go, oh, I'm losing or slipping over, boring. If I come out and go, right, I'm the best thing since life's bread and then slip over. That's so much funnier. Yeah, right. That's so much funnier in life and in character. And the other thing is I've got to keep comedians stand-ups and certainly British stand-ups. We're gestures. We're court gestures. We're down in the mud with the other peasants laughing at the king. We're low status. Now, how do I keep low status? Because everyone knows how much we earn now. So I've got to keep, I can't fake it. I can't pretend. I can't go, oh, I was on the bus the other day going to claim a welfare check. Right. You're liar. I can't do it like that. So I keep my low status in two ways. One, I show them that it's not all glam, all the silly things I've done, all the mistakes I've made, all the faux pas I've made in Hollywood, all the ways the press have called me an idiot, caught me out. And the other way I do it is I talk about things where they're better off than me. I talk about being fat and old and going to die and going bald and my balls descending. And you know what I mean? So that's how I keep, in a way, I don't think that I keep low status. I try and keep same status. Right. That's what I want to do. I want it to be us against the world. And are you able to tap into some of this sort of explanation and theology when you're trying to court folks on the extras to sort of, you know, when they come out and they parody themselves a bit like, are you able to sort of make them feel comfortable? Like, we're all idiots. I'm an idiot. Come on and have fun yourself. I found that the, the stars that I approached, right? That was like a day after them. They wanted to do it. They wanted to go. Let me show the world I've got a sense of humor about myself because there's so many rumors about these people. They want 12 white kittens in their trailer. They want the trailer to be big. They, someone else has to flush the toilet. They want to go, let me, let me show them, I'm normal. I've always shown them an idiot. Right. And some of them made it worse. Some of them went, oh no, do this, do this, do this, I did this once. It's cathartic. It's like, it's like a day off for them. You know? Yeah, yeah. And I think that's fun. And I sort of, I've played it, you know, myself a couple of times when I've been the other side of it. Like Kirby and Doosie has them where, you know, where I was thinking, oh, I've got a parody myself here. And it is fun. I mean, you do it anyway. If you write yourself apart, you've got a, you've got a parody, you know, a little bit. And then, but it's, it's nothing new. It was nothing new. The Muppets used to do it. When I was a kid, I used to watch the Muppet Show. And they would have on big stars. And they would be the idiot. The Muppets won. The Muppets won. Right. Yeah. It's like being interviewed by Gemini Glick when Marty Short is Gemini Glick. Oh my God, you can't. I was interviewed by him. Right. And I just, you can't compete. Like the worst thing you could do is can try to one up him. It's like, no, just, no. No, you can't. I was just, I just was laughing. I wanted to hug him. I wanted to go, right, I wish, I, I want to say I wish this was real. I wish I would like this all the time. But I felt that I did a Muppet film and Constantine was the evil Russian frog. And I just wanted, I wish he was real. I wish I could take Constantine. I did all my press stuff with Constantine. Because it was so good having, yeah, you, I like being, I like being, you know, the lower status. The set, you know, it's good to play the arrogant idiot who wins, but it's much, it's much more fun to, I like it when I'm insulted in fiction. I love, I love me being the part of the joke. Well, so how about it could that possibly be a new angle on whatever sort of film the entertainment, like scripted entertainment you might be doing this because, you know, fans like us, like we love the standup stuff, but we want, we want, we want it all. We want what, like what is it going to be another show? Is it going to be another movie? Is there anything close to the, to the, yeah, there is something that's, that's, that's close to parodying myself that I'm going to get around to one day. I can't even talk about it. I've got the title, I've got the idea, but I can't even discuss it now because it would be, maybe shooting in the next 12 months. Yeah, oh you, oh you lot would be roped straight in as my only friends in our game. We're available. We're available. Yeah, you're in it. And but I've just finished a thing called nearly. It's like, it's like two years and it still isn't quite finished. It won't be out till the end of next year. Doesn't animation take a long time? Yeah, it's a crap. But it's a six part thing about it's called anti-cats and we're a group of sort of ferrule cats living in a, a disused basement. And we watched TV and go out and cause havoc and it's, it's, it's a lot of it is improved as well. There's, there's storylines, but they're the sort of, you know, the meanest, whereiest cats in the world, but you know, they're, their losers as well. They're the bottom of the pile. They're, they're, it's all about sort of like survival. And it is all about that thing that when you're the bottom of the pile and, you know, you can, you can be angry. You can't lash out because there's, there's a reason. Right, you get away with a lot because you're not, there's nothing perfect about you. Yeah, I, I think that's, that's funny, isn't it? Because that's one of the big differences between sort of drama and comedy, you know, the, the lead in a comedy is a putt, whereas the lead in a drama is perfect. He can't slip. He can't hit his head. You know, he can get shot. Uh-huh. But then he's got to go, it's just a flesh wound. Right. And then he can't do the voice. Well, do the, do the butch voice, we are. The butch voice. Do that butch voice you learn when you got you. What, what do I, boss dropped? Hey, listen, hey, Rick. Listen. Um, when, when this summer, did you do, did you, when you were doing the office, which is a great, it's kind of Jason's earlier point. So it is a great acting triumph that, that series for you playing David Brent. And I, uh, and I'm sure you got to ask him fucking million times. I'm sorry. All are. He never sought. No, I know. Yeah. And, and did you, did you, how much of that was, um, and then when you're first making that, of course, it's kind of like, you know, they made the internet without the internet, you know what I mean? You made the office without knowing with no reaction. You made it in a vacuum. That first season. Yeah. And so you're doing it. Did you have any idea that you were, what you were doing with, was, was, was special or working or working? I know it was different. I know. You did know it was different. And did you think it was going to spoil you guys improvise it? Were you improvising a lot? No, I was, uh, I was the only one that really improvised at all. And I did that at the beginning of the end of the scenes or it's just to make that, just think a little bit and make it read or do some of different to, to make them laugh or, or whatever or just some of the. I'm on the back foot, but it was, I'd say it was 99% scripted. And what we found, and I've always found this actually, but the behavior was, was, was improvised though. Do you know what I mean? Well, sort of, you know, I, I, I did want to be an actor's medium. I remember saying to the, like sometimes the, the D.O.P. might go, I'd be good if he came in and sit there. I go, I said, come in and sit where you would. And I said, we're filming it. It's like wildlife. But, yeah. We, you know, we had to stage it a bit because they had to be, of course. Because we didn't cheat. So, you know, some documentaries, if you wanted cameras to react, right? Yeah, it's what, when it's one camera. So, if someone went through a door, we wouldn't cut to a camera there, waiting for them. We followed them through the door. So it was all possible. So we probably cheated less than real documentaries in a way, which was a bit of naivety, but I think it came across. But we had to find people who got it, just that they had to say these things. And I do remember that, you know, we were meticulous. I know they said, no, because it's gone. We saw the whole picture. So we would make them, there were sort of multiple takes to film to get it, you know, how, how we wanted it. Did you find that the cast bought into it early on or did it take some convincing? Because they didn't have the reaction from the audience either, you know? No, no. I think, well, it was finding them. It was the once we'd done this sort, because it's the first thing I did. And I sort of cast it with someone in my mind, like I had these characters. Like Gareth was based on a kid I went to school with when I was like 14, 15. And he was in the territorial army and he spoke like that, right? And he said, this is a true quote of this guy, I won't say his name. He said, when you're captured by cannibals, right? And you're in the pot and they're cooking you. They show you pornographic pictures so you get an erection and there's more meat. Right? And so he'd set. And once, right, I did this and said, I said, as a joke, I was talking to him once and I told him, when we're a little bit older, I told him that I said, if you get a crab drunk, it walks forwards. And he came back off holiday, right? He's been on holiday with his parents. And he said, you're talking shit, Jive, I did it to a crab in my hair and it just walks sideways still, right? So this was the sort of, so Gareth was based on him. And he was quite a sport. How did you find that incredible actor that could hit that tone without any winking at all? He was just, what was that? But what made him better? Yeah. Was this guy was quite a sporty guy. He played cricket football was big. And I was looking for this guy. I was looking for a guy who came in and talked about killing a man and all this. And then when Mackenzie Crook walked through, and he's about seven stone and looks like a baby bird, it was even funnier. Because certainly him talking about, I could kill a man. Yeah, if I was in the jungle, you didn't know you couldn't. You definitely couldn't survive. You couldn't see Vietan by a lizard. Amazingly. You know, I was so surprised with. But we cast and cast and cast. And I remember it was like, you know, 2000. And in England at that time, you either got these people who sort like that, they were like that. They were sort of like this and that and that. Or they wore bonnets and spoke like the Royal family. Yeah. There was no one who acted in between and comedy was sort of quite heightened. Everyone still talk funnily like that. Right. And so you had to tone it down. And once we found the people that could do that, they could do anything. They could just do it. They could just naturally undo, you know. Did you have success? I mean, I love the American office as well, but my, my, as far as I'm concerned, can't touch what you guys did in England. Were you able to have at least the amount of success comedically tone wise with the other international iterations of the show? Because you've done it. What, 16 times did I read around the world? Yeah. Well, I usually, I know all the others. I, you know, I, I okayed it. I, I'd see a rough thing. I'd see they'd cast a, a fat 50 year old as Brent. I thought this, they're doing it right. And I often watch the first pie that some of I haven't, I haven't seen a minute of them. I've seen clips. But, you know, and they have to make it. They're right. They're funny when there was a, there was a French one. And you know when Tim puts Gareth's stapler in jelly. Yeah. Yeah. In France, they put it in a big cheese. It's not like this. It's that easy. He just, I'd retrant like this. He'll be like cheese. You should have put it in. I thought you guys, I thought you guys said they went and striking the pilot and then he just came back episode four. Right. We're doing satire now. And we said, man, we're having fun. Yeah. We'll be right back. And back to the show. What a great success though that that, I mean, I'm sure you felt like you were in such a, such a, a vacuum there in England and you're doing what only six episodes a year. And, but then it, then it takes off. It's, yeah. Well, we got that. I was a big fan of faulty towers. That was the first time that I saw. Like this, this is my, this is so perfect. And they hone the scripts. You know, often British sitcoms are written by, you know, people banging on a tight right over the weekend and they, you know, they do loads. And this was like, you know, 12 episodes. So perfectly like that possibly the most perfect fast ever committed to TV 40 hours. I thought that, that's, that's what we do. We do it. We, this is boutique. This is, you know, but that was a sitcom, right? Shot pricinium style, right? Multiple cameras, audience, studio on it. Like, yeah, you, you did the opposite of that in that it was single camera. Very quiet. There was a lot of humor in the, in the, in the discomfort of silence and awkward beats. Well, I stole that from spinal tap. Anything you say that I invented our town, you were, I stole it. Okay. Well, we all do. All of us. Yeah. Come on. Jason and I were inspired when we were just shooting a rest of the film in the first season. And we were, we watched your show, we watched your show and we were just, we were crazy about we were like, holy shit. Look what these guys are doing. Like we were fucking blown away. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's truly, I give you all credit now. I mean, because as you know, a, a, a huge fan of all of yours. Well, then like, I think we told the story last time you were on. Then it was like, we got word to us that you might be interested in actually coming over and doing an episode of our show. And Will, wasn't there like some sort of like ridiculous argument high up at the studio level with them like wondering, yeah, should we really buy him a first class ticket to come over? I think like the phrase was, he's not going to put a new people in the tent. Like it's not worth the fucking plane ticket to bring him a remember like, they were right. They were right. What did, what, what did that like ridiculous? Well, I know because Ricky, you know, because he wanted like 12 kittens in his trailer. I ran he was, yeah, because then Ricky made that point early, just reading off his own writer, you know, yeah. Well, no, no, sir, a, um, a rest of development or rested as will cause it, um, he always kept me. Did you just get, I think it was, I think you were voted for like five years when it was a hour long, it was on. You always voted best comedy of all time, weren't you? That the best unwatched show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and then we got, we got a little bit of awards attention and we got to stay on a little bit longer and speaking of awards, we've got, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, ask you for some advice. Ricky, Ricky's going to be blown away by this. You got it. A nice bit of love from your phone. No, no, you've been nominated for Golden Globe. Yeah. I think we're going to get up there on stage, maybe present at a, at a minimum. I think you've got a great chance. I think you've got a great chance because this is really fun. You've got all the big guests. You're like, you're huge and it's friendly. You're, you're very, you're not Hollywood in that. I mean, you're very, you're very Hollywood. There's three of you. I mean, you're, you know, the top of their game. I think you've got a very good chance. I don't, I don't, I don't, I'm trying to say we don't, I just don't want our pattern to, like, I hope they don't write us some weird pattern. Just say no, whenever, even when, even when a rest development wouldn't give me a first class ticket, I was still arrogant. And when I was handing out awards, I said, I'm not doing it with anyone. I'm not going out with someone I've never met doing a bit of stick. I said, I want to come out with me and I'm just going to do the thing. And they let me do it. And I, the best thing is like, it's two, two is the default is just to just read the prompt or like without any bets, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I, I, I think I complained every time I got there. I said to someone like, I've come a long way for this and I didn't win. I was usually up for an award. I, I tell you what, I, you know, I've been nominated, you know, 25 m is and I've won two. Now that is just taking the Mickey, isn't it? That is like, get him over here again. Get him over here again. Let him think he's going to win again. Get him over. And I, at least I thought, oh, you're right. I used to hand out an award at least. I just got up there somehow. You're host, but you're hosting of the globe. What did you do? Five or six years? It was just priceless. Oh, I would do you watch it. Do you do watch it? Do you watch it at all? Anymore? The globe. I don't, I don't think I've ever watched an award ceremony. I wasn't at. Well, first, first start, the globes and the Oscars and all those in America. I'm in bed right there. They're three a.m. Yeah. Right. I sometimes check out, I check out the monologue if it's a comedian, you know. Right. So I thought, yeah, whatever. But no, I don't, I, I mean, I don't know. Did you find it? Did you find it? You can't take it seriously. You must have taken those things seriously. No, you can't. You've got to treat them like a night out meeting your friends or a job or, you know, it's like, it's an industry award. I like meeting all those people, all those fancy folks. It's nice to see people. The only, the only reason it's on telly is because it's an industry award for really famous people. The teaching awards don't get telemised. No, I don't know. You know, right. They, they don't do it for science awards, really important awards. They'll be telemised. They put a bunch of booze on the table too. They try to get everybody hammered so when they go up there, they do something interesting. Well, that's, that's the great thing about the Golden Globes. That's the good and bad thing about the Golden Globes. The Golden Globes is better to be at. Right. And the M is probably better to host because at least they're all in their seat. And they're listening and you can do, I've never hosted the M is because it's too much work and you have to rehearse. There's no rehearsal hosting the Globes. I know, rehearsal. No, I, I talked about this in my special, um, uh, 30th of December. Um, now I came in, I came inside, I read, I saw you in the show. I used to go just before, I think I filmed it in that. Before you filmed it. I saw, I went, I saw Ricky at the Plane Demon London, uh, Chappie and I went over and watched his craters, brilliant, man, it was brilliant. Oh, thank you. Yeah, it was brilliant, it was brilliant, brilliant. And yeah, you talk about, it was fun. I, and the, and the, the artists were so psyched and you were really funny talking about like hosting the Globes and what that was like. Yeah, I talked about it so behind the scenes, just like what it was like for me and, uh, and what happened. And, uh, there's a couple of really funny stories. But, um, uh, I can't, I can't tell you. Don't, don't, don't, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. Was, was that, was the, was the show that will went to? Is that the one that you filmed? How do you decide which one to film? It was this, it was the, it was the venue and maybe the week, but not the, not the night because I, I did about, I did like, I think I did 14 shows and I typed two of them. I don't know. How is that traditionally, um, decided? Is it usually you, you want to film one of the later shows because you're still working on the material? You want it to be, you want it to be ready. Uh, well, if you're ready and you want to be as soon as possible, while it's still fresh and you're still sort of, you know, into it and, you know, loving it. So it was within the last sort of like five or six shows, actually. You want it to be a venue that you can do a night before warm up in the same venue. Right. And you want it to be as intimate as you can without it looking. You have to wear the same outfit. Yeah, I was going to say the same outfit. Well, that's fine. I'll do that anyway. I could do it tonight. Yeah. I haven't, I haven't changed my hairstyle in 22 years. So it's not a problem that, um, uh, and you do, you do two just in case, and usually you sort of, you make sure you nail it on the first one and make sure you've got everything. And then the second one, you just have fun. You're right. And in the cold light of day, the first one is always the best. Yeah. Of course. Because it's more self indulgent than the second one. You're going, I'm in a lovittime. They love it. They're, they're, they're, I'm riffing. I'm riffing. Then you get into the studio and go, well, people at home aren't there. So they just want to hear what you had to say clearly. And it's always that first one, the wins every time. But, um, it, you know, I, I even do things on the night that I have a number for little things I try out. And, um, because you can always edit it out. So, yeah, you know, I, I feel too much and crunch it down. I probably do 70 minutes and it comes out at 65. Just as things didn't hit so much or, I, you know, or two jokes about the same thing. I don't go that, I just sound, that sound too much or cruel or whatever. Or some of that wasn't ready. I'll go, I won't put that in. I'll work that out. That'll be in the next special. So as far as your material goes, if you found that the sourcing of the ideas that you get has, has changed over the years, was the ratio kind of stayed the same as far as it's pulling from like family and friends, funny ideas and news ideas and or. No, it's still, it's still, it's still, um, uh, Hitler, I'd, uh, in that order. Classic. Shitting yourself. Yeah, the classics. The green, the green, the stuff that got us here, you know, I mean, yeah. Yeah. Uh, you know, well, also that translates as well. So if I, if I work up my show in England, I've done 50 shows in England and it's all about what was on Teddy last night or our prime minister or, uh, you have to go about universal subjects and joking aside, my usual universal subjects are usually, um, things like what it's like, you know, uh, you know, ego bad days, uh, getting old, or, you know, uh, so I, I, I tried to be more timeless than topical. Right. So this one, this one called mortality. Is that the theme of the whole thing? Is, is sort of mortality is, again, it's a jump off. It is about me getting old and grumpy and, you know, uh, getting annoyed at stuff more and more. Uh, again, it's quite classic, you know, everyone goes through the phases of their life. Um, sure. You know, I think it, it, it is about, it's not, it's not zeitgeisty, but it is clearly about now. Yeah. Um, but I hope it, I hope it lasts. But I will say, Ricky, that's one of the things that again about sort of the office and your standup, which is, and you just said I was about to jump in and say that it's not zeitgeisty and that's what gives it all those best companies aren't because they do have that evergreen thing. They do, it is about these characters who are flawed, uh, the relationships between people certainly in the dynamics of the office, between the different things. I mean, that, that, you know, is just as relevant today as it was 25 years ago. Well, I think so. I think if you, if you, if you go classic, sometimes I even go retro, but like this project I'm working on now, Alicats, it's like 2D retro. I want it to be Hanabar Barra mixed with sort of six Disney. Yeah. If you look at it in 20 years, you don't go, Oh, what were they thinking of then? It just looks classic. Classic. It's already sort of classic. It's already stood, it's already stood the test of time the way it looks, you know. So I do, yeah, I, I am quite conscious of it sort of being universal and timeless and, and, uh, because you notice as well, if you suddenly, it's going well, but you, you get to Paris and you go, Oh, I can't do that bit. I can't do that bit. They won't know he is. I can't do it. I'm not demoralizing. You know. You know. I mean, they know they surrendered. You know, you mean, you don't need to tell. You know. You don't need to do that. You don't have to remind them. What, when did you, did you enter the war. Let me just think. After my dad. Dolan. In. Try. Wow. It's pretty. I. I. I. Well, Ricky, if with all of your, your, your, your influence, your access and, and, and, and credibility, cap it all that stuff, if you could, if you could point all of that towards something that is not comedy, not stand up, not movies or television stuff like that, like a documentary or something like that. Well, what, what, what would the audience be surprised that you would, if you had to shine a light on something, would it be like animal rights, like a documentary on animal rights? Well, that's the first one I suppose. Yeah. I think that, um, and where'd that come from? Did you have the, did you have like a, pets, is it, when you were a little kid and, yeah, yeah, it was, it was, it was always quite important. You know, pets were like, you know, a member of the family, you know, growing up sort of like a, just a working class family in England. It was, it was all about the kids and pets. So I remember, um, when I was, uh, I was about 15 and my, my brother, as you know, you know, 26, 27 at that time, he came over with a couple of his kids, right? And the kids came running into the house to, to my mum and they went, Nanny, Nanny, um, Daddy just punched a man in the face and knocked him over in the park, right? And my mum was like horrified, right? Yeah. And Bob comes walking in and she went, shit, they said you punched a man in the face. And Bob went, yeah, he kicked the dog and my mum went, oh, fair enough. And that was it. And that was like, that was the life lesson. It's like some, some things are all right. Sometimes violence is just a fight. That was, it was all about, you know, I've always, I've always thought animals were unconditionally sort of perfect and beautiful and should be treated well. It's all about empathy, isn't it, really? And I know, I know you guys the same. I've never understood animal cruelty. And then the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the more you find out, well, there's so much animal cruelty that you didn't know what was going on and you're, you're, you're sort of like, you're cashing in on it without knowing. And so that's why I became vegan as well because the terrible cruelty in this sort of farm industry and, you know, and I thought, oh, I can't, I can't really, I can't really be saving dogs and eat in sheep. And so, yeah, you just, you know, if, if you had to make a choice between bringing one person back to life, one, it could be any person, a historical figure, a family member, whatever is, or give voice to one animal that is alive right now, like your pet could talk or you could bring back a person. What would you pick? That's really good. Well, it would be, oh my God, they're both pretty irresistible, aren't they? Yeah. It's too risky and it bring someone back because you might bring back that, I'd love to, you might bring back Einstein and he keeps going, it's, it's bored. Yeah, no, he equals MC Square and I know I've got it. I've got it. Fuck me. Why is that? Yeah, no, he's got to catch up. It's got to be my cat talk and, isn't it? It's got, you've just got the one pet, one cat. What if I got, this is really boring. Oh, God. Or had an answer. Yeah, it's a real pain. I know you're sleeping, but we can talk now. What if you're, what if your catch has said, I've been, this whole time, I've been all over you because I'm a sadist, I just want you to fucking kick me. I just, that's what gets me off. I just want to kick. I can't, can you spend all this time telling people not to kick and that's the only thing that gets me off as I can. Obviously, we're going to cut this bit, right? We're definitely going to cut this bit. Keeping this bit leading with it. Yeah. Let's be open up. It's the only thing that I'm going to sleep now. I'm not just sleeping now. Oh, God. All right, so now you got a chatty cat. Yeah, and all right, I think that's a good decision. What's the cat's name? She's cold. Oh, I'm a little bit cold. Are you sure? Yeah. I've had lots of cats. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But so if you had to give voice to one, it's going to be pickle. It's got to be pickle because you're lucky. You're current. Your current cat is your favorite and you just, you probably forget how much you love the other ones. And you go, oh my god, this is, you know, yeah, you're to, they become a member of the family. What's the life, Sean? Sean, what's it, Sean? What's it, Sean? What's your, what's your dog's name? Ricky. Excellent. Yeah. I was known that my name should either be a child or a dog. Dog. It doesn't really suit a man in his 60s. Does it? Ricky. Never Richard? Ever. No, it was Ricky, Ricky Dean Javais. It was apparently, it was a thing, what shows lower class from a name most in America. And the top name to show you are from a lower class was Ricky. Really? Yeah. Apparently. It's funny. Yeah. I'm just having a, having a, having a, a gag on you. They say, Sean, what do you think Ricky, your dog would say if he could talk today? How do I get out of here? Yeah. How about stop curling my hair? Yeah. Well, I crimped it. I just crimped it. I don't curl it. Oh. Ricky is such a beautiful dog. And Ricky, you're a beautiful guest. When's the special? When's the special? Where's the date of? The specials out. It's out now. It's out now. It's out now. It's out now. Absolutely fucking pointless this. Okay. You ready? I'm going to do this. So Ricky, you're special came out December 30th. It's already number one across the world. I don't know how we booked you. What incredible success and congrats on all the nominations. Yeah. Really great. Oh, let's do one just in case. I say, oh, uh, uh, oh, Ricky, um, just after you're special came out, you had your testicles removed for cancer. Just in case. Let's do every scenario. Yeah. I'm going to burn them down. I see you're all right with, I'm all right with testing in the cancer now. When you're about 50 that you forget about it's arsehole. It goes don't worry about your testicles, mate, but we've got to check your arse now. Yeah. I'm out of the woods. My testicles are safe. They're obviously safe. Well, there's a fear of them getting trodden on. Yeah, safely tucked in your socks. Yeah. We love you and thank you. And please say hello next time you're out here. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. What did last time I did? I wasn't there. Where was I? Oh, you weren't there. No, when was that? That was the last time I played the ball when we all came to Tertouse. Yeah. Yeah. Two years ago. It's a while ago. Yeah. I will. I'll say. I'm back. You were in England recently, weren't you didn't say hi? I'm not. It's, it's, it's, it's will that has a sleepovers at your house. Not me. Wow. You love you. I love you. I need friends. I don't have any friends. I got these too. Help me out. I know. You're all too busy. We're all too busy. I'm too old. I'm too old and grumpy in that social and you're too busy. That's not perfect. I'm just like a cat. I don't talk. I'm sitting on the corner. You know what, Jason? You know what it's called? It's called making an effort. You make an effort. I go there and I make an effort. Reach out to Rick and I say, what are you doing? He says, I'm busy. It's called making an effort. Okay. Ricky, thank you so much. Teach me, really. Teach me. All right, Polly. All right. Have a great rest of the day. Bye, bye. Thank you. That was absolutely a pleasure for me. I hope it was a pleasure for you. And it was. I understand I'm the first, first second guest. The first. You are the first guest. I'm also the first guest to do to. Yes. First repeat. The first repeat. Yeah, that's the way I was looking for. I'm getting tired. The money's the same though. So don't look for an increase in your check. I will. It's yes, after half past nine, isn't it? It's a. Yeah. Sorry, half past six. Yeah, half past six. I only got two hours before I think about bedtime. Dinner time. Say hi to Jane at the dinner table. I will. I'm going up to the seat now. Thank you. Yeah, I love to Jane. Great to see you guys. Bye, bye, bye, bye. Say, say, bye, bye, buddy. Bye. The great first return. Our first return. Our first return. And that's the bar. That's the bar. That's the bar. Yeah, right there. You don't get to come back unless your Ricky Jervais is good. You know, I don't remember him going into so much detail about the office is really cool to hear that. I know. You know, like, because you don't want to. What's the time you guys saw that? Seriously, on the plane a couple of weeks ago, I hadn't seen it since we watched it, Willie. It's been, it's been a minute. But you know what, in that time, I will say, I will say, and really, you know, I know Ricky was part of it and credit to Greg Daniels and my shirt and all those billion people that we love over the office and all the performers. They were not for sure. Very funny. And I had it in the watching the bulk of it during COVID because I missed, there were gaps in it and fucking hell. I mean, first of all, Steve Carell was, you know, because Ricky casts such a huge shadow what he did on the... I remember thinking like, who is this guy Steve Carell thinking that he can do what Ricky Jervais did? And he made it his own... He just did it differently. He made it his own in the drill that, oh, so good. And it's tough, those are big shows. All of these characters were so specific and everyone in the American office came, made it their own, kicked the door down and I think inarguably, became a bigger success than the British one, yeah? Yeah. Yeah, who knows. Like you said, it's so hard to write a part and a tone and a voice of a character and then have an actor match that. Like, what are the odds of that? Yeah, yeah. I love, yeah, I also love Martin Freeman. I'm such a fan of Martin Freeman's and he's so good. And I love that show that he did the responder. The responder. I think I mentioned it before, it's BBC Show set and Liverpool, he plays a cop that came out two years ago. He's unbelievable. Well, you just fire up Ripox and you just start knocking down shows. Kinda. Yeah. No, I know you love it. Are you doing a plug for the Ripox? I mean, I'll do it. Do I have Ripox? No, you have, you are... Yeah. Do I just, I guess, a certain channel? I gotta find it. It's a fun callback. That's a fun callback to me. Do I have to be, you know? Ah, to be... Sean, do you have one yet? Well, I was thinking of to be, to be, to buy. No, no. It's too much of a reach. It's okay. What about, um, sort of buy, buy, close to the show? Well, there's shows, there's shows, there's shows, there's shows, there's shows, those are shows, you know, all those shows, like these are gonna be slow. They're so good and they're so rare, that they're really hard to come... I... I... I... Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. 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