20 minutes a day 365 days a year this is the pack a day podcast hello packer fans and welcome back into the sunday edition of the pack a day podcast wherever you may be and however you may be listening thank you so much for making this part of your day i am Nick Schmitz and joining me this week, filling in for Jimmy Christensen, my favorite OG co-host, Jacob Wessendorf. Jacob, thank you for filling in yet again for Jimmy. We appreciate it. And how you been doing lately? It's going okay. Jimmy presumably is taking care of his kids. Me, I am living Jimmy's eternal bliss and don't have to take care of my kids, which apparently enjoying that makes me a bad person. So if that's- I was going to say, are you eating chips and drinking beer while not parenting your children? No, I guess that part makes me slightly better from that standpoint. No chips or alcohol were consumed at the time of this viewing. So nothing there. But yeah, I enjoy the silence as well. So after chasing around a screaming three-year-old and a six-year-old and consoling a six-year-old at a basketball game who spent more time crying than she did playing, that was not fun. So, yeah, kind of enjoy the quiet, kind of enjoy the zen is the way I like to think of it, is everything kind of goes back to balance and it keeps my sanity for at least a little while. But I am no Jimmy Christensen when it comes to being a bad human, a bad parent, and a bad person all rolled into one. So shout out to Jimmy for being truly the worst. I really do appreciate that. You make me look a little bit better, which is hard. Well, you know, it's a tough standard to live up to for Jimmy, but I think he does it so well. You know, just every week reminds us why he is the 2025 Defending Champion Father and Husband of the Year award winner. So, well, Jacob, we are officially into March now. And, you know, free agency is right around the corner. but like we are like what feels like peak dead zone like post Super Bowl right like the Super Bowl is what now over over three weeks or maybe it's exactly three weeks three weeks from today if it's yeah so so three weeks from today post Super Bowl not a whole lot has gone on I mean the probably the biggest thing of note that like I don't know how much people care about but and we're not going to go over it, but you know, they have those, you know, team report cards that came out, which I'll just say briefly, quite eyeopening all things considered, but. Yes and no. I mean, my thing on it is it's funny how, so the guys that are left, right. Are LaFleur and Stenevich and everybody's pointing to those grades that LaFleur and Stenevich got and Stenevich is like, Oh, Green Bay loyal to a fault. See, he stinks. The players think he's terrible. So do we blah, blah, blah. And then Rich Passaccia, who everybody wanted his head on a stake the minute the season ended, got the highest grade of all the coaches. So is the player's opinion this ultimate trump card or is it, you know, a piece of a piece of evidence? What it really is and what it really boils down to is it's people are going to use something to confirm what they already think if they can certainly do that. But I did say this on another Packers podcast, because I think Andy would cut me into little pieces like Dexter Morgan if I said the name of the podcast. But I did say on that show that if next year the Packers stunk and had an actual bad season too, not like 11-6 and lost in the first round of the playoffs, like a bad season by a normal – Like 6-11. Yes, by a normal team standard. Yes, not a championship or bus team standard, which is what the packs are, which is what you prefer, right? If it comes down to that a year from now, we will think back to Matt LaFleur's grade on that report card. Because one of the counter arguments to firing LaFleur was Jordan Love, Josh Jacobs, Tucker Kraft, Micah Parsons, all these guys coming out and saying, no, we want Matt to be the coach. And maybe they do think that most of those guys are pretty straightforward and pretty honest about stuff. but you know that is also only five or six players there's you know 50 plus other guys in that area as well so i'm interested to see what that looks like that is something we will think back to though in reference if green bay actually has a bad season misses the playoffs that kind of thing is like man you really did have an opportunity to move on and start fresh rip the band-aid and start fresh which i don't remember your feelings on that nick that is what I have said kind of openly, that is what I would have done. Um, but with the head coach, not the general manager, let me be clear on that part. But I would have, I would have moved on from the head coach after they lost in Chicago. They did not do that. Um, so now it's just kind of seeing were they right and how much, how much rope did they buy themselves? I've got a friend of mine. He's not quite hot take Jeff, shout out Jeff, but my buddy Chuck is what I like to, he and I we're kind of in the films industry together for a few years. A coach just saw and all this. I've known Chuck for a long time, but you know, Chuck seems to think that the extensions could be like if green Bay has a bad seat, like a, a season, just like last year's, that could be the end of Guta Kunst and Matt LaFleur. And I don't think that's the case, but I do think, yeah, if they go six and 11, six and 11, that could be a boring, you know, if Jordan love gets injured and Kyle McCord starts two thirds of the season, that's different. Right. But with relative health, especially at the quarterback position, coach gets fired. I think that's how that works if that happens. And we'll see how that goes. But the report card thing, it's not this trump card, but it is interesting how people take in the information that it has been given. And it's the sky is falling, everything is ending, and the whole world is off and awful, which the last part might be true. Well, yeah, you're not wrong there. But, you know, it is one thing. the one thing that I've been asking myself, and again, this is not going to be our main topic of discussion for today, but the one thing that I do kind of wonder, you know, now that these grades have coming out and granted, I want to put this in a little bit of context. Not every grade is a reflection of the head coach, right? Like, so certainly there is a specific grade for the head coach, but like the facilities, right? That's not on the head coach, right? Like that's, that's on, you know the higher-ups you know i would say ownership but like that's people and some of that stuff is circumstantial too right like the training room stuff and everything they were talking about they're remodeling the training room as we speak so you know in the locker room for example got a bad bad quote-unquote review the year before it's got a great i think it was yeah it's like one of the top reviews of any team and it is awesome i mean it's it's pretty cool in there um but so it's so uh certainly not every uh grade is reflective of the head coach but speaking of the head coach because i agree with you jacob i would have moved on from him um after it but like they're you know given the grade and like my question is is like with the way the season ended for green bay like it feels like for most teams like that would be fireable right you you you win one game in december you win the first game the first weekend in december and you don't win again you you make the playoffs partially because the league says there has to be seven teams and you happen to be you happen to fit that mold um and you know and and it wasn't a collapse due to health right like i mean certainly michael parsons got injured tucker craft was hurt like you had your quarterback you had you know relative health um across they had enough guys to beat some of the teams that were on their schedule yes yes um and like if that doesn't get you fired what does like that's that that's where i land now on this is like i mean that alone is pretty damning and he lost a full letter grade from last year i think he was an a minus last year in the report card and now he's a b minus and and the other thing is and i don't know if this is true this is just something i read because again i have a kid i don't have time to like keep up with all this as as you do as well jacob like we just i just don't have the bandwidth yeah somebody said though i am not is what he well uh somebody said that these these grades are tabulated and they were like tabulated and submitted essentially before the five game losing streak yeah it was aaron nagler who said that and i have no reason to believe aaron would not have a rock solid source on something like that if he would toss that out there so um yeah that was the other part that was interesting was that it was because it's easy to think like oh they lost five games in a row the end of the season of course everybody's pissed off like right no i don't know when they sent it in maybe maybe it was sent in after the eagle game and the packers had lost two you know their last two games and everybody was feeling pissy about that too i don't know like these are humans with human emotions absolutely um so but that that part gets interesting to answer your question about, you know, what makes things fireable, something with me that has stuck out. And I don't, I don't know if this would be any different, but if Ed policy had made Brian Gutekunst, the person in charge of the decision on Matt LaFleur, like has been the case in years past, Ted Thompson, Ron Wolf, Mike Sherman before him, even though Mike Sherman couldn't fire it. Well, I suppose he could fire himself, but he probably wasn't going to, right? So more so Ron Wolf and Ted Thompson. Gutekunst doesn't have that job, right? Gutekunst doesn't have that job, right? Gutekunst has reporting to Ed Policy, Mark Murphy, during his tenure here in Green Bay and ditto for Matt LaFleur. So they're kind of on the same level organizationally. Brian Gutekunst cannot fire Matt LaFleur. Maybe he could give a recommendation and see how far that goes. But then if you're recommending to your boss who is on the same level that maybe this guy should go, then it becomes really interesting of how a potential problem could be, how that could emerge from there. Right. But Gudikant's still upset in his postseason press conference, mentioned unprompted the five game losing streak several times, sounded very frustrated. I think he believes that his roster is good enough to win a championship And I I don think they that far off Uh but I am curious to wonder curious enough to wonder if Guttekunst were in charge would Matt LaFleur still be the head coach? I land, I believe the answer would still be yes, but I think it's not as much of a slam dunk as it's right. Well, we know the answer if had policy makes the call as he does extend LaFleur and Guttekunst, but that is, this is one of the potential weaknesses, if you will, of this structure in that policy is not a football person. Guttekunst is, but Guttekunst doesn't have the authority over the coach who's saying like, I'm getting you these players who I think are really good. And most people think this roster on the league is really good and we're not winning enough. Why? And if Guttekunst comes in, you know, after next season and says, Hey, listen, Matt's not the guy anymore. Well, then Matt's got to worry about X, Y, and Z about how like his, like you and I are on the same level at Packaday. If you tell Andy I suck and then I find out about that, I'm going to be a little pissed off about that, right? Like that's eventually going to be a problem. And probably the same for Matt LaFleur. And Matt LaFleur probably has some gripes in the other direction. You know, he could say, hey, you drafted this player and I didn't want him. And I didn't think this guy was any good. And look at this guy who's over here now. I think this guy could be awesome. and he's killing it in whatever, you know, city it is like, that's kind of how some of these things can work. So it's interesting to think about ultimately though, I did say I would have, if you're moving on from the general manager, then I think you should have moved on from the head coach. I think the only person who could have survived without the other is Guttekunst. And I do think Guttekunst deserves more rope than, than what LeFleur has earned over, especially over the last, I've quoted the numbers a million times, right? Like there are 37-30-1 since the loss to San Francisco in the divisional round in 2020, what turned out to be 2022, the 2021 season, right? So they've got some work to do, and they've got some proving to do, I think, that with LeFleur, everybody points out his total record, and I understand that. There's certainly some positive and stuff, and it's fair, right? Like the Packers were bad when LeFleur took over. They were coming off a six-win season. they won 13 games three years in a row that didn't just come out of thin air like I do believe Matt LaFleur is a good coach is he good enough to win a championship I don't know you know that's I have I have said on this show I said it after the Cowboys game I do not believe the Packers will win a championship with Matt LaFleur as the head coach and I've seen nothing since that night in September to change my opinion yeah I we're we're in lockstep on the uh on the head coach here but But let's get into some, I mean, it's not potential news. It's mostly hypothetical. I mean, that's tis the season right now. But two things that I saw this week that I thought might just be worth a little bit of conversation. The first thing is, if you didn't know, earlier this week, the Indianapolis Colts granted Anthony Richardson permission to seek a trade, which is basically their way of saying, you know, he's not going to be around much longer in Indianapolis. And it got me thinking, I saw an article where it was suggested that Green Bay should, you know, explore the idea of a trade for Anthony Richardson. Obviously, the compensation has to be correct, right? Green Bay is not going to, you know, because Green Bay, they're already without a first round pick this year, right? So like Green Bay is not going to be super in the market for, you know, giving away draft capital for a guy who you want to be a backup, right? You don't want this guy to be starting for you this year because that means that Jordan Love is injured, which is not great. But the backup quarterback position is certainly a spot that needs to be addressed for the Packers. Malik Willis is going, he is a free agent. The number I heard and saw this week is that he is going to be probably somewhere in the ballpark of $30 million a year. We're not going to talk about whether that's right or wrong for him. It's just the reality of the league. So he's not going to be in Green Bay. Market Bay, that is absolutely right. So let me just, a player, a person, whoever you are worth, whatever, somebody is going to pay you on the open market. If Andy tells me tomorrow he wants to pay us $1 million an episode, then that is what I am worth. That's just how this market works, right? Right. Right. And so, you know, and after what week 18, was it Clayton Toon who took all the snaps in the, I know he's no longer on the team. But can you like, you want to talk about how brutal this business is. Clayton Toon is set up to be a sacrificial lamb for this week. They basically give him that whole week. They don't even try to really win the game. And they didn't even give him first team reps. No. And then on Tuesday. Because they gave Jordan Love all the first team reps that week because they wanted him ready for the playoffs. And yeah, then threw him in there to be a sacrificial lamb and then cut him. But so clearly with Malik, and we've been spoiled, Malik Willis has been a phenomenal backup for Green Bay. And he is on the upper echelon of backup quarterbacks, right? Like players like him don't really exist as backup quarterbacks and ones that do exactly what's going to happen to him. When their contract expires, the team that they're on usually can't pay them to be a backup for whatever they're worth, and they go be a starter somewhere else. So Green Bay is going to need to explore the backup quarterback position. Jacob, Anthony Richardson, let's start with this. For your money, he's certainly young. He's on a rookie deal. I believe there's one year left on the contract with the option for the fifth year as a first-round pick. Certainly, it hasn't been phenomenal in Indianapolis form, but if he would come to Green Bay, it would certainly be to be a project and a backup. He's not competing with Daniel Jones in the offseason. Jordan Love is the starter. You're only playing if he's hurt type deal. It for, you know, certainly the compensation has got to be right, right? Green Bay is probably not. I would say if they would do it, probably wouldn't give anything more than a fifth. And that might be a little high. But for your money, is there any world in which you would want Green Bay to explore the option of adding Anthony Richardson if the trade value is correct? No, only if he's released. and I say that because I understand the upside of Anthony Richardson. He's talented. He's still young. He was a high draft pick for a reason. Well, I was never that high on him. It was a draft choice, but nobody cares what I think as far as that goes. But he was picked in the top five. He has a huge arm. He's athletic. He fits the mold of what I think your backup quarterback should be from the standpoint of you kind of have to smoke and mirrors it a little bit. When you have a backup quarterback in the game, you're hoping for one of two things. One, you kind of have to smoke and mirrors the game where Malik Willis completes a couple deep balls, runs for a few first downs, is able to create with his legs, opens up the run game, that kind of stuff. Or you're hoping for all-time outlier performance by Nick Foles, who throws and catches a touchdown in the Super Bowl to beat Tom Brady. how many times has something like that happened, right? Not very often, more often than not. It's the old Tom Moore quote, which I quoted in a story I wrote about Malik Willis. And that was a Peyton Manning goes down and we're screwed. That's what he said. And we don't practice screwed. Right. So to me, Green Bay's backup quarterback situation, I personally, and I'm not the general manager and thank God, God or whoever it is that you guys talk to when you're in your rooms by yourselves that I am not. But what I'm doing is I'm looking for somebody who has some wheels, somebody who can move and, and create some plays with his legs as well as some action and stuff with his arm. The other thing I'm looking for though, is Anthony Richardson is a one-year deal. Malik Willis, when they acquired him green Bay's obviously had him for two seasons now. So if we're calling this the Matt LaFleur rehabilitation quarterback program, program by the time anthony richardson is rehabilitated he's gone he's a free agent and if he plays at all in green bay next year and plays well he'll be in line for a different contract that is probably worth more money than what green bay will and should be willing to pay him so to me if you're doing a one-year deal at quarterback like that i am looking for somebody who has a track record of playing well. So Adam Schefter this week on ESPN, Milwaukee, Madison, one of the two, I can't remember which, mentioned that Kyler Murray could potentially see Green Bay as an attractive option. And that is something I would be in on. If Jordan Love is hurt and has to miss time, Kyler Murray has a track record of being very successful. And he would be here on a one-year deal, highly motivated, So probably not spending all his time playing call of duty and whatever other things he was accused of doing while he was in Arizona as their primary starter. Put all that together. Someone like that is who I'm interested in on a one year deal. Now, in general, I'm looking for somebody that is a multi-year backup. So if you're doing a rehab program like that, I think Andy mentioned Will Levis doesn't quite fit the mold of the athlete who can move. But something like that makes some sense to me. the other one that I have kind of brought up continuously this off season is Justin Fields. I think the jets are going to release him. He has some track record in the NFL as a starter, not great track record as a starter, but he is. This side of Lamar Jackson, probably the best running quarterback in the NFL. And, you know, with a floor, he was a talented players, first round pick, first round prospect. He just went to Chicago where quarterbacks go to die. And this would be the first time he'd have an offensive-minded head coach as well, correct? Yeah, that does not hurt his case. Wait, I take that back. He had Matt Nagy. Was that Matt Nagy's last year in Chicago? It was Nagy's last year, and then he had Eberfus. So they got rid of him and so on and so forth. But I think that someone like that is a better use of your assets for Green Bay because with Anthony Richardson like I mentioned it a one deal and he gone And you have to give up trade capital when you don have that much draft capital to begin with So I not that interested in anything he shown in the NFL Like the guy was the fourth overall pick and the team went out actively seeking Daniel Jones, who was a first-round draft bust, to compete with him. And in a situation like that, the team, the organization, ideally, that competition is skewed in the favor of the guy who was the first round pick for the team he's on. So that competition, in theory, is skewed toward Anthony Richardson, and he did not win it. And there's some questions about, you know, I know there was the debate a couple years ago about him tapping his helmet, saying he needed to come out of the game for like a third and forever. I know for a fact that did not play well. He ended up getting benched for Joe Flacco, and that wasn't the only reason, but it was one of the reasons they did that. Like some of those questions would have to be answered. I don't know how big of a deal that would be, but in general, to give a really long-winded answer to your question, my interest in Anthony Richardson is basically zero. Basically zero. Does it change at all if the Colts end up releasing him, And if you're Green Bay, you can go out and kind of give them like a two, three year deal as a backup that wouldn't be super expensive. Or are you still more interested in other players at that point? I'd be interested in other players. But if he's released, then you can make it a, you know, a two year deal worth minimal money and stretch out cap hits and stuff like that. And and that's that's the way that I would do that. But again, that's kind of like what I'm saying with Justin Fields, Trey Lance, whoever the backup. And I don't think that Green Bay should be in the market of finding a rookie. Like if you're doing that, then you can probably get away with having Kyle McCord as like your rookie on the roster, unless there's somebody that's just absolutely can't miss. You cannot pass on this kid in the sixth round, like Drew Aller from Penn State, just as a name who comes to mind. Then maybe that's something you can do. But otherwise, you know, I think Green Bay would be better served to find a, I don't want to call it high upside, but something like that for a backup quarterback behind Jordan Love. Cause the reality, again, if Jordan Love goes down for the season, green Bay season circles the drain, but Malik Willis, the value of him is kind of the perfect value for what you were looking for, for a backup quarterback for the last two seasons. He played well. They won three of the games he played extended minutes in and they lost. The only start of his that they've lost is when he started against Baltimore this year. And Malik Willis was the best player on the field, arguably for either team that night. So, you know, that's what you're hoping for for a backup quarterback. Can you get us a 2-2? Can you get us a 3-1 if Jordan's got to miss a month? Something like that. Exactly. So, all right. Well, I mean, I wouldn't say no to Anthony Richardson, but, like, I'm more with you in the idea of, like, again, without having a first-round pick this year, like, I'm not super high on giving away draft capital, and you're a championship contending team, or at least you feel that you are. So you're not probably going to give away a lot of players, right? And that's the thing is finding a player-for-player equivalency for them. I just don't think that's something that Green Bay is going to be able to find the ability to do. But certainly interesting nonetheless. The other thing I wanted to talk about, Jacob, was there's nothing official on this yet, But there's I saw an article that, you know, said that it's it's a possibility. And, you know, what should Green Bay do if the possibility arises, which is Kenny Clark is on an expiring contract in Dallas right now. You know, I don't know what Dallas's plans are to do with Kenny, whether they want to bring him back or whether they let him hit free agency. But in a world where they do say, yeah, go test the market, see what's out there. would you be interested in bringing Kenny Clark back to the Packers he's 30 years old he'll turn 31 in October um you know certainly he you know was beloved in Green Bay um you know was part of the Micah Parsons trade right I don't know if there's you know ill feeling on his part like maybe he does become a free agent and says yeah no you guys traded me for Micah like I have no interest in coming back i don't know but you know from green bay standpoint is this something that if dallas does release him and it's the right fit and the right money uh at you know 31 years old for a defensive tackle is that anything that you have any interest in green bay going after me i have a ton um you know kenny clark was as my i think i made this joke the other night but bill huber jason willdy they always say to me media starts with me so like from a me standpoint or adam shine will say i love me i'm obsessed with me i root for me like yeah from a standpoint of guys i liked talking to guys i liked covering kenny clark was certainly one of them and going all the way back nick to our game on wisconsin days kenny clark was the og from from those days so yes he was you know that from that standpoint a plus guy um i do know he said that he was kind of upset that green bay traded him as late in the off season as they did but then it was like okay like i don't think they wanted if they could have traded for micah in april they would have right right that being said i don't think that would be a problem and the other thing with green bay is for this is a bad justice mosquitos pointed this out a million times and everyone anybody else who's looked around has as well it's not a great defensive tackle free agent class and green bay needs a defensive tackle and specifically someone who can play the nose and kenny clark can certainly do that and has done so at a high level I don't know. He's certainly not the same player he used to be. And now Green Bay, you know, with his contract that he has, that Dallas may try and get out of rework, whatever it is they're doing. That was going to get him released in Green Bay after this past season. Like he was going to play this upcoming, see this past season in Green Bay. And then they were probably going to release him as a salary cap casualty. Obviously that changes when they trade him for Michael Parsons. now you have a chance to get him back on a lower number that makes some sense to you or better sense to you they love him there he's a core locker room player like i mean the first reaction to trading away or for that trade was guys being disappointed is not the right word but you know upset bummed out bummed out whatever that that kenny clark was leaving and then you realize of course it's for michael parsons 100 gm like kenny clark's parents would trade Kenny Clark for Micah Parsons if they were the general manager of a team. Like that's all love in the world and respect to Kenny Clark, but Micah Parsons is the second best player at his position in the league, not named Miles Garrett. Like there's no question here, right? Green Bay's defensive line room. I think they need some juice. I think they need a veteran. I think they need a rookie who they can count on with some upside, you know, some of the back end of their defensive tackle group. I like Wooden. I like Wyatt enough, but Wyatt is in line for a contract extension and hasn't played a whole hell of a lot. When he has played, there's been some high-end flashes and some big-time disappearing acts. Warren Brinson, six-round rookie. What can you count on from him? Carl Brooks, Andy Herman's been all over this, but I think Carl Brooks could be somebody who doesn't even make the team coming out of training camp. He's a guy who could be a trade candidate before that and has kind of not played that great since he was a rookie. Nazir Stackhouse, undrafted free agent. I love Stack. He's been a cool guy to talk to just from the same ilk of Kenny Clark, but undrafted free agent out of Georgia and a one-dimensional run defender. They need some juice on that defense. Watch Seattle's defensive line, just the interior guys in the playoffs and tell me you think the Packers and the Seahawks are playing the same sport at that position, at that position, right? Not even close. That is where, you know, going all the way back to green Bay's championship defense when they had Colin Jenkins and BJ Raji and something like they could push the pocket and they did it in a hurry, right? A lot of times green Bay's defensive line, it's stalemating and pass rush situations and the quarterback's not uncomfortable. You got to be able to move him off his spot. Again, Clark's not going to come in and have a 10 sack all pro season like he was before, you know, he's not the player he used to be, but can he be in an above average player still? Yes. And does green, like I think of the guys I just mentioned, why it's the only one who's above average and every year he's kind of had the same season starts out like a, like he's got his hair on fire, gets dinged a little bit, disappears for a while, comes back, gets dinged again. And then that's kind of the end of the year. Like this past year, obviously it's not his fault. he's getting injured but i don't agree with best ability is availability because i don't think that's an ability but that's something where with wyatt he's got to play 16 7 you know he's not going to play that many games most likely but can he play a vast majority of the season and do it at a high level with a high snap count with something he hasn't not a high snap count guy uh which is matt lafleur is i'm for rashaun gary which is another discussion for a different day yeah um probably when you talk about uh cap casualties that's probably very top of the list for green bay this year um so yeah i mean kenny clark uh certainly a fan favorite locker room guy um and yeah i mean i'm just at this point with that defensive line like micah parsons got hurt last year and like everything just stopped working in on that front line um so it's kind of you're kind of at the point right now and again i agree with you is kenny clark going to be the player you used to be no but he brings some stability um he'll be good alongside um you know michael parsons certainly um good to rotate him in there with wyatt as well um and especially you know if you can bring him in i mean you know i don't know the severity of devante wyatt's injury but like i i've heard that like he might not be ready to go for the start of the season it wouldn't be super long term into the season but like you never know how that recovery is going to go so you may not have him for the first couple of weeks uh bring kenny clark in like again i think it would be great and you know in some ways if he plays well like it'd be kind of funny that jerry jones basically just Scott, two first round picks for Micah Parsons, and then Kenny Clark goes back to Green Bay and plays well Like that be fun for me because anytime Jerry Jones and the cowboys look awful i all for it yeah you not gonna hear any complaint my my daughter likes to ask me who are she doesn't know football so everything football is packers she says who are my three least favorite packer teams and i say the bears the vikings and the cowboys and yeah cowboys make the yep i have no no qualms about them looking bad and and with kenny like again they just need more guys up there if they're if this was a better free agent class and that's the other thing with where green bay's kind of at i had i was talking about a it was a center that was released by the titans and it's lloyd cushionberry and all i said was maybe green bay could have a conversation or something like that and people are like oh this guy stinks or you know just whatever it is and it's just kind of like also you know beggars can't be choosers the market the market is has what the market has right like you can't say oh green bay needs to get better at corner well you The corner store isn't on the corner, pun intended, of Lombardi and Oneida. It's not like they can just go sign Richard Sherman in his prime. You're asking for a lot there. You can only sign who's on the market or who's available or who becomes available via trade for whoever. Well, the other team has to want to trade with you too. It takes two to tango and sometimes more because if the player needs a contract extension and such, then it takes three, four, five, six guys to tango. That's a lot. And the other thing to always keep in mind is, you know, sometimes players, you know, maybe they're not in a good situation or maybe they need a change of scenery, right? Like see Malik Willis, right? The Titans were like, they gave him away. And it's like, well, yeah, the Titans aren't a well-run franchise right now. They're not a very good team. and he comes to Green Bay, a well-run franchise and a good team. So sometimes it's just like players, they're not on a good team. And if you put them in the right spot on a good team, they look a lot better. So just always keep that in mind too, because that happens, I feel like, more than we notice, because usually we only notice when it's happening to our team. so just always keep that in mind too that um you know fit and you know team matters so anybody coming to green bay usually get better especially if they're coming from a bad team like tennessee so all right i'm sorry yeah the titan stink yes um so well jacob that'll do it for today uh real quick anything you want to plug um i know you got a lot going on at least writing wise um i know some Baylor basketball is that correct yeah I picked the worst possible year to start covering Baylor basketball when I didn't so Nick and I were talking about this before the show but as a parent like something eventually has to take a back seat and for me it was basketball and especially true in the NBA after the Dallas Mavericks traded Luka Doncic that's unforgivable sin I don't care how it's turned out with with a lot of Dallas teams trading away really good players yeah not a whole in return something in the water down there i don't know what the deal is but um yeah with baylor basketball as soon as i signed up to to write well signed up the guy and i agreed to have me work for him i was like oh baylor their basketball team's good right well no they're not going to make the tournament so there's that on the packer side of things which is why i assume anybody who's following me here uh yeah it's it's that time of year it's from March 2nd, so tomorrow, as you guys are listening to this, until the draft. I will have a mock draft every Monday, and my public disclaimer that I'll give right now is that's not necessarily what I would do. It's just things that could happen, so don't tell me they're never going to do X, Y, or Z, because chances are they probably have done X, Y, or Z since you've yelled at me about those things. The other thing, the Green Bay Draft Guide, this is our fifth year of production. uh jake morley ross oglin myself will plug that all the time every single week from now until uh i think it's the middle of april is when the price goes up as far as your pre-order so for now for 11.99 you can pre-order your guide 225 players um combine testing scores everything like that to get ready for the draft and if there's a year where you will need it it is this year packers don't have a first round pick so if you're like i used to be once upon a time where you just scrolled on the first round mock draft to who, who green Bay took at pick 21 or whatever. Well, green Bay, you, you know, a lot of, a lot of mock drafts just do one round, so they don't even do green Bay. So that's, you know, you're going to have to do some, do some homework. Well, now I'm not asking you to do homework. I'm giving you the answers to the test and so are my friends. So trying to do it that way, but yeah, a lot's going to heat up. It's an off season for the team, but for us content wise and everything like that, nothing really slows down too much. All right. Awesome. Well, Hey, I appreciate you filling in for Jimmy again this week, Jacob. Truly appreciate it. Jimmy, your ass owes me a steak dinner or something at this point. Yeah. You know, you got to call him on that. I'm sure he would oblige, you know, anything to get away from his wife and kids. Can we get him? Maybe he can buy Baby Schmitz the Tucker Craft jersey, both of them. I think Patrick and the other one, they need one. Well, maybe Patrick's already got a Tucker Craft jersey. I know, by the way, just for disclaimer purposes, I know the other one's name. I don't know if Nick has announced that, so I didn't want to spoil it. Fair enough. Yes. Declan does need a jersey, but maybe Declan can go with Micah Parsons. There you go. Well, Jimmy, you heard it. So for my fill-in, instead of a steak dinner, I think you're getting off cheaper here. You can buy the little man, our little man, a Micah Parsons jersey. Yes. So on that note, real quick, Jimmy should be back next week, but I don't know if I will be or not. I'm having a, well, I'm not. I'm just, I, I, I, the brains, the beauty, the brawn, the brilliance, everything of the Schmitz operation is having that baby. Yes. So that is this week. So may or may not be in next week. So we'll see. So for some of you, that might be a relief that you don't have to listen to me. I can't imagine anybody is like, Oh shoot. I'm not listening next week. Well, unless it's just Jimmy flying solo, then yeah, you might be disappointed, but that's a Jimmy needs a babysitter. So Jimmy, if you're listening, I'll, I'll fill in next week too. If you need some help. So, all right. Well, I appreciate it. Jacob, as always, thank you so much for listening to everybody. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday. Enjoy the month of March. For those of you that live in the Midwest, winter is almost gone. Yes. I know March. You can still get crappy weather. Oh, I've got it for you. No, my Harley comes home on March 14th. so winter is over the day that that beautiful beautiful baby my favorite of my three children rolls into my house that is when winter is over there you go i'm just saying i can see the light at the end of the tunnel now right like baseball is right around the corner i'm very excited for the start of that and nice warm weather and not going outside with the dog at midnight when it's four degrees outside so he can go potty so you're nicer than i am i just throw the dog out there and say you're on your own kid well so i don't have a fenced in backyard so i it's uh kind of a and and he is a flight risk at this point so um yeah but uh the light the light at the end of the tunnel and i know not everybody cares about this but i am very excited i love march madness and i'm going to be on paternity leave during the start of march that's awesome yeah that worked out very well. I'm it. If there's anything that I will say very positive about having a March baby paternity leave for, for March madness. So if you get any at my company, you get three days and they say, come on back. I remember my, I had a relative die. My bereavement policy was one day two for a significant relative. So yeah. So if I worked for this company a few years ago, when my old man kicked the bucket, yeah, it would have been two days. Yeah. Good luck. anyways that's enough of that but yeah eternity i'm jealous is what that means i'm jealous is what that means so i look forward to we'll have to trade back and forth on who we're picking to win the thing yeah absolutely so well again jacob thank you so much for filling in really appreciate it thank you everybody for listening we'll talk to you next week and as always go back Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
