Lisa Rinna Interview: Traitors Reunion Hot Seat, Colton Underwood's IG Unfollow + More!

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And you can learn more at Microsoft.com slash M365 Copilot. we have a fun episode for everybody today for lisa renna so pumped sad it wasn't in person it was supposed to be in person but the snow really screwed everything up so um she had to call in virtually and still got some great stuff from her as always a good 45 minutes but lisa renna is what we needed but it was supposed to be in person which is unfortunate obviously i know just like dying to meet her and hang out with her i know i really thought we would have had like a powwow. Yeah, like why do I just think she'd be like, look at us and be like, you guys are like my daughters. Yeah. And I'd be like, oh, Amelia Delilah? Yeah. Or film TikToks dancing with her, like the whole thing, which unfortunately didn't get to happen. But still a great episode. Yeah. We do not have an episode on Friday. We are headed to the beach. We are. I did want to add one more. I did want to add one more thing about Leah Serena because very much in the news, the last day she allegedly got what she thinks is drugged at the Abbey at the premiere party for traitors we this I'm just wanting to clarify because the news came out before I'm sorry the news came out after we interviewed her so we didn't get to ask about that because I think that was important to say because I know people are probably really curious about what exactly happened there because that story was being posted everywhere Tuesday night but we spoke to her earlier on on Tuesday. So that, no, on Monday. What day is it? It's Tuesday on Monday. Yes. We, that story came out Monday night. We spoke to her earlier on Monday. Yes. And yeah, we didn't get a chance to ask her about it, but it's a, it's a crazy story. But yeah, that came out after our interview. So didn't get to talk about that. But yeah, this is our last episode of the week. Yes. We won't have an episode Friday and then we'll be back on Monday. And then Charlotte show is Tuesday night. So we're headed to Charlotte on Monday after we record our episode. And we announced that we have Molly and Sally from Southern Charm joining us. And whatever which way you feel, you know you're going to get some good shit on stage from these two, which is always going to be entertaining. And we're going to be, you know, having a fantastic show. We're going to have so much fun with them, I think. They're going to be a blast. And it's going to just be some good old gossip on that stage. Hell yeah. So if you haven't gotten tickets yet, you know, the tickets are on sale. And then we're just hitting the, you know, hitting the ground running after that. We're back on the road and got a lot of fun shows planned after that. We'll be announcing more guests. I'm very excited about the guests for this leg of this tour. I think we got some really good ones, some really fun ones. So they're going to be great shows. So check out the tickets. They're on sale online. How are we feeling? I'm good. I'm just, I'm ready to get the hell out of here. You know, it's, I know how much I hyped up being excited for the snow, but it's like, it's like a one day thing. It's like, you know, you're so excited for the snow when it's gorgeous. It's like you woke up. I actually saw Sarah Jessica Parker talking about how she, like Andy called her on Watch What Happens Live. She was like, I couldn't sleep. I was up at like 15. I just wanted to see like how much it snowed. Like that's the excitement. And then the next day when you're like slipping into giant puddles of sludge on the street, not as fun. I will say New York City did it like pretty clear pretty fast. It doesn't even look like it's snowing. For as much snow as we got. Like I sent some pictures to my mom. She was like, oh my God, it doesn't even look like it snowed that much. I was like, we got a foot and a half and they cleared a lot really quickly. But I feel like something about this snow was different because the storm we got like last month was way worse like aftermath. Because it was so cold. Yeah, it was so cold for so long. And I, you know, that, that. Maybe they learned from their mistakes. It was like, that's what I'm saying. Like everybody needs a dress rehearsal. Like that was like, that was like, oh, big storm. Here it comes. And then you handle it. And then you're like, oh, we fucked it up last time. Let's make sure we don't do it this time. It feels like they definitely, I was shocked. Like even walking around Monday, like after the storm had, like after it stopped. And I was pretty impressed with how things were cleared up. But it was just, it was magical walking through some of the New York parks and all the snow. The snowmen. Yeah. So many snowmen. Everybody was out here making a snowman. I saw some ginormous snowmen. Yeah, they were putting in the work. They really, really were. some pretty big snowmen were out there um but now that that now that i've enjoyed the one day it's like okay yeah i'm ready to go on vacation yeah we're we're gonna have a nice time yeah we're excited to do that no how are you doing over there great great just checking nothing nothing really to report i'm trying to think in the last day that we yeah since yesterday no okay good just checking in ria i know you're excited for vacation yeah i mean we're gonna be on vacation together a couple's trip we had a great time last year so we're running it back yeah and you know we're just gonna be swimming dipping our toes yeah we'll see how i feel because you know you're getting a spray tan tonight and i am not and um we discussed this you told me i gave you a big fair warning um and i just don't have it in me like you know when you just i just don't have it i 100 get what you're saying because partially i don't have it in me like i really don't want to get bare ass naked get a spray tan in the cold i tried on my bathing suits last night i looked in the mirror i jumped i said ah holy shit i was scared of myself you know and i'm probably being hard on myself like usual yeah uh but i just thought you know what just go get you're like i'm translucent I just was like you could see everything you know what I mean yeah and I felt that way I got a couple new dresses I was really excited for and I tried them on last night and I was like I I'm I know I'm like I know I'm just pale and I don't actually hate these dresses but I my god I'm gonna have to save them for towards the end of the week because I need a little bit before I put these dresses on well you know you're ending up like not in a good spot when you start going down like the path of like should I get lipo on my arms which is which is the path I went down last night where I tried on my bathing suits tried on the dresses and you just it's just like a downward spiral of like you're in the dead of the winter the winter uglies are hitting you you haven't seen the sun since September and then you go down a rabbit hole of should I get lipo on my arms um woke up today and said no Maria we're gonna love we're gonna love our arms you know hey I'm glad you came to that conclusion but i would support you i was texting you last time you were talking about it i would support you with whatever conclusion you came to i know if you were like look i actually really think that this is gonna this is gonna make me happy is it go for it that's you know it's it's it's something that it's like for years of my life i've thought about this and it's something that i know you have if it's something that just like popped out of nowhere and all of a sudden like without like it was something that i haven't heard before and you're like you know what i'm doing this i'd be like whoa whoa whoa so your role but i know it's something Since I became a teen, this is something I've thought about. And everybody has those things about themselves, right? That you just think about and you sometimes love and then sometimes you hate. And I go back and forth on this where sometimes I'm like, I love my arms. I love myself. I love this. I'm going to own it all. And then I go down a path of in the middle of the winter, I'm like, oh my God, get it out of me. I do it with my hip dips. Like I have pretty prominent hip dips and there's really not much you can do for it besides like legitimate surgery. Like, like, like they, like it's not an easy procedure. It's like really going under the knife. Like they take, they take the fat out of somewhere else and then put it in, which is just like, wait, a crazy thing. We can take the fat out of my arms and put it into your hips. That would be amazing. We'll do a two for one. Wow. Wow. We'll do a fat transfer. That would be amazing. That would be amazing. Because I just have this stuff like listen I love the definition that I get to see in my arms from like all the strength training that I do. Yeah. I lift multiple times a week and I fucking love it and I love feeling so strong. I really do like I find it to be so empowering. And then obviously you just have those things that you can love but at some points you get down. And I just have this stubbornness in my arms that I've just been this way for it. It's just it's just how I built. But now that we can we can take from my arms and put it into your hips. easy solution. I feel the same way because I think my legs, I've never felt stronger, which is great, but in building up those muscles, it becomes more prominent. It's sort of a thing. There's every which way you two, believe me, I looked it up, things to do to help your hip dips. There's really nothing. You can't work out to build fat in that area. you know and then the muscle doesn't just like magically appear in that spot isn't it crazy though the things you notice on yourself like no one else would notice like i would literally never notice that on you but let me tell you something it's because of the one person like we live in this world it's like the one person that you hold on to it's the one comment that you hold on to and you think about for the rest of your life like i wore a long sweater dress one time to a christmas party that hugged like my hips i got one comment that said i look like a frog and i said i'll never forget that i'll never forget it isn't that so fucked up like it just lives with you forever and this is why this is just going back to the stupid men on the internet because i know like that's like when you know like you know i don't want to bring it up but it's like oh ria's so fat all the time you know obviously that sticks with you and then that's why a couple weeks ago i went on that whole rant where it's just like leave me alone i fluctuate like goodness gracious and like why do we have to make these comments because it's like when you get everyone calling you fucking ginormous it sticks with you and here's the thing because you know you're not which is what you have to deal with in the fact that it's like these options are available to do but what breaks my heart is when I see people who are doing it so clearly because of outside noise and that's what you like that's what you have to deal with because that's where you have to come to terms because if you come to terms with the fact that like this is actually something I really want to do I don't care what other people say it's going to make me feel better when I look at myself and not like I'm doing this because it'll silence people who are saying they think my arms look too big. Absolutely. Because no matter what people will say something. And I have gotten so much better, like with not caring what people say, like in the last couple of years, like just, I would say within the last two years, like so, so, so much better at that. Um, but my arms has just been the thing my whole life, like something I've always thought about. Women just don't have to deal with all the shits of bullshit. We do. And we talk about this. Like, yeah, you know, not to get into a deeper discussion, but it is a very real discussion. Do I deal with body dysmorphia? Yes. Yeah. You do. I do. But I'm working on it. Yeah. And I say that lovingly. You do. You do. No, no. I know that you say it lovingly because it's something that we talk about off camera. Yeah. But I am working on it and, you know, and all that good stuff, which sometimes we just have to work on these things. And that's why today I'm saying like when I'm working on it, it's like waking up and going, you know what? Last night I went down a rabbit hole, woke up this morning and said, you know what? I love these things. It's so fine to go down the rabbit hole. Then you just come back up. Yeah. And I came back up today. You just got to come back up for air. Exactly. Sometimes you get trapped down there for a little bit. You just got to come back up for air. And you come back up and you're like, okay. I found that's the case with a lot of things. Yes. You know, get trapped. You got to remember, come back up for air. Yeah. It's important. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. Let's get into, you know what? It was nice. We had like a serious discussion there that was actually kind of lighthearted. Yeah. Yes. Because we have to laugh about these things or else we'll cry. Yeah. Or else it gets too serious. Right. And it's like, you know, we're not. And it's all very, it is to be taken seriously. It is. Because it is a major thing that plagues women nonstop. Nonstop. Especially right now because I think we're back in this era of like really skinny forward. Like, you know, it's very prominent again, it feels like. So it is important to discuss. It is important to discuss. But also we can laugh with each other and make each other feel better. Yep. All right. Thanks for lending me your arms. Yes. And you know what? To give me some juicy, juicy. Yeah. I'm going to juice your hips up with my arms. That's a whole. just a hilarious visual of us walking down the beach. Yep. Yep. Oh, shit. All right, let's get into the rest of the show. Like we mentioned, we do have a great interview with Lisa Rinna. We also have Pop Corner, and we're going to be talking about the Met Gala announced its theme for this year. Lily Collins cast as Audrey Hepburn, Phoebe Dynavor cast in Beach Read, and Harry Siles will be performing and hosting Saturday Night Live, March 14th. 14th. So let's get into it. We are so excited to have our hands on the Pepsi prebiotic soda. 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And you get that prebiotic fiber it's amazing if you guys haven't tried it yet you got to try it pepsi prebiotic cola is available now so go try it today mech owl theme was announced and it is called fashion is art doesn't it almost make you think and i don't i don't know if it's because lisa ren is on this podcast and now i'm just like in that mindset but when i saw this i was like fashion is art baby like i was like it needed I felt like it almost needed a little baby at the end. Fashion is art, honey. Hollywood babes. It's like the theme, dress code, is fashion is art, honey. Yeah, I'm with you. I feel like that's exactly how it should be said. They should have wrote that in the graphics. We should have wrote it in our graphics. But this theme, very straightforward for me. Yeah, it is. I'm picturing. It feels very campy once again, like we've had that before, where people really go all out. I think we're going to have some crazy, crazy things on this carpet because fashion is you're going to have really, really detailed pieces of artwork. And I to me, that can be anything from super, super extravagant, really crazy out of the box stuff to just like beautiful, beautiful, delicate pieces or like so just like intricate beading, like something that just has like a bodice that, you know, You're going to hear about somebody who has a corset bodice with a beading or a stitching that took a million hours to make. And a million beads were hand sewn into it and all these things. And it'll be stunning. Yeah. I feel like this is the most open to interpretation that you can get with a Met Gala theme. Because art is open. Yeah. Art is truly your own interpretation of whatever the fuck you want it to be. And that's what we're going to get here. I bet we're going to get some. And here's the thing. This is the theme. You better go extra. I don't want to see a simple black dress. I don't want to see a simple black dress. Hailey Bieber. Yeah. If you show up in a simple black dress, I'm going to be pissed. I feel like the most she would do is some crazy like beating or something. Do it. Do it. And like you said with the bodice, like I could see really like sculpted, you know, looking like a statue of some sort. Like really interesting shapes. I feel like you can really play with the shape and not just have a very traditional silhouette. Maybe do a little bit of a different silhouette. Now, it feels like this theme maybe came a little bit later. No, the theme has been out for a while. The theme is costume. Yes. The theme is costume art. Costume. That's the real. Right, because we did talk about this. I'm like, wait. I'm having. It's the full name. Dress code. Fashion is art. Sorry. That's why I'm like, fashion is art, honey. That's the dress code. That's the dress code. here and I'll enter saying it myself because they've been working on this for quite some time yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah absolutely because I think the I don't know what the whole I forgot what the whole official name of the of the exhibit is but definitely something around costume definitely because it was like oh we're gonna get some funky stuff yeah yeah fashion is art makes a lot of sense yep absolutely very excited about this moving on we got some casting news so sorry Ariana Grande Lily Collins has stepped in yeah for the role of Audrey Hepburn for Breakfast at Tiffany's yeah i totally see it i feel like this is like such a comparison that's been made forever it's such a good casting yeah i really do want to know if ariana grande was in the talks about this like i know that there was a lot of conversation about her kind of going for the role i maybe i just missed it i didn't really see any of this did ariana say she wanted to play audrey heppard people thought that she was dressing like audrey heppard and trying to get the role okay remember like it was like oh she's putting in this whole Audrey Hepburn yeah yeah yeah she's like she's inside a lot I remember now like a lot of carpet she was walking out people like it's giving Audrey Hepburn I gotcha yeah so that's why I'm saying I wonder if if she was even in talks or that was just an internet thing it could have been I think people would have loved to see that too but you can go crazy with this and of course they could do something out of the box but it's Just like if you're going to cast somebody as Audrey Hepburn, I think Lily Collins has probably had the most comparisons her entire career all the time. I feel like even when I see photos of her from Emily in Paris or paparazzi photos with her or pictures of her when she was young and everybody always comments like, oh my God, she looks just like Audrey Hepburn. Yeah, that is a common theme. So I feel like this fits. It totally does. It's just like a congratulations because. It totally does. everything about her just makes sense to me and that like not only are the are the the looks there but just they're they're like all around aura is there too I think I agree and then on top of that you were talking about that I have not read Beatree yes you have an Emily Henry book that is being adapted into a movie yes and Phoebe Dynevor got the the lead yeah I'm so excited for this I think she is perfect for this role um I know so far we are we're knocking out of the park I think for um Emily Henry adaptations for castings because I thought people we met meet on vacation was was great and the casting especially her was so perfect and I think this also makes so much sense I really really love this I think she's gonna crush it um kind of like a perfectly perfect person who I envision I think casting oh god I'm gonna space on I'm gonna space on his name so forgive me but I'm gonna I'm her romance her her partner in crime here in this like is I think a little bit harder to cast because right now they they they've crushed the female castings. Gus. Gus. Yes, yes, yes. Gus. I think Gus could be a little trickier. The brooding literary neighbor. Yeah, anytime you get kind of like that shy guy, I find it to be like, ooh, who's really going to nail the shy guy look? Because there's so many guys in Hollywood that are just so goddamn handsome, and you're like, you're not shy. But I think they find someone great for this too but Phoebe a perfect casting So I excited for that And tune in on Thursday for our final review of the last letter on the same page book club That'll be coming on. And we do a casting of the last letter. So if you're listening and you want to take our casting recommendation, recommendations, tune in on Thursday. And then last topic, just excitement here. Harry Styles will be hosting and performing for Saturday night live on March 14th. Now I'm thinking to myself, we getting another single before this? The whole album's out by then, no? It is? March 13th? Isn't the album out March 6th? March 6th. Okay. March 6th, you silly goose. Oh my God. Next week. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. I got all flustered in my brain. I thought it was the end of March. No, no, no, no. I don't know why. Beginning of March. I had the end of March in my head. That's so fair. So you were thinking, oh, she's going on SNL and all he's got is aperture? Yes. But wow. No. First of all. terrible Harry Styles fan by me openly admitting that but even better for me now that it's coming way sooner what a pleasant surprise in my head I've just been telling myself end of March for some reason yay okay next week quite literally next week oh my god what a thrill so then he'll be on SNL to perform his best songs that we all have already heard cause then he'll be out I'm like he's just gonna perform Aperture wow I'm an idiot you guys gonna try to speak into existence you going to that SNL we can't we have a show we won't be here damn yes believe me I saw the day and went ah I went like this ah yeah no I had this same reaction San Diego baby you knew that yeah off the top of my head I just you know yeah and then the Oscars are the night after that yes they are so well listen come pregame Harry Styles SNL with us yeah at our San Diego show because it's going to be a freaking fun one oh but won't it be nice we can cuddle up in the hotel and watch and watch yeah that'll be fun that'll be nice Yeah, that'll be really nice. Because I do think watching SNL is always fun with a buddy. And the last time we watched SNL together was Harry Styles. Which was years ago. It really pulls you in. Which was 2019. To get musical guests and hosts I think is so great. And he really is so funny. So he'll crush it, of course. We know you will, Harry. You're going to be dynamite. Yep. All right. That wraps up the topic. The GameTime app gives fans the advantage with constant innovation. It's how you unlock amazing tickets and experiences in just a few taps. It's so simple to use. The GameTime guarantee means you get 100% authentic tickets on time at the best price. No surprises. Fees are included in the price you see. So what you see is what you pay, period. I love that. I love that everything's included. So what you see is what you are paying. No hidden fees there. And now there are so many amazing concerts that are right around the corner. We got Hilary Duff, Harry Styles. 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Download the GameTime app today. all right let's get into the pop corner where we're taking your hot takes your voicemails your opinions let's get into it no play the first voicemail hi ria and fran and noah um first of all please come back to atlanta um i love you guys love your podcast listen to it religiously um i have a theory and maybe i'm stating the obvious um or maybe i'm a genius i don't really know i just haven't seen anyone anyone else say this but i'm like 99 sure that the alex cooper hannah montana thing is going to be like a fictional um episode of call her daddy or whatever and i think that miley cyrus is going to be hannah montana okay maybe everyone already knows this and i i just didn't get the memo but i just really feel like that's going to happen and especially because in the promo it shows hannah montana's car pulling up it shows a boot stomping on the ground that was very reminiscent of a Hannah Montana vibe, not really a Miley Cyrus vibe. And so I do feel like it's going to be kind of like similar to like an episode of Jimmy Fallon where she does the interview as Hannah slash Miley Stewart with Alex Cooper and then does like a performance. And maybe I'm just holding out hope that it's more than a Call Her Daddy episode, you know, but that's my opinion. And I want to hear your guys' thoughts on it. But yeah, bye-bye. I like the idea I don't think that's happening I like the idea and I also love it's just I don't think they were pretty clear on the Disney press release like what was happening I also love that you said and then Miley Cyrus will be playing Hannah Montana yeah yeah I would hope Miley Cyrus is playing Hannah Montana but um no I get what you're saying I think that might be fun like maybe that'll be partial like maybe they'll do a fun little sketch type thing where she's interviewed has Hannah Montana but then like maybe cut in between but then like the real interview is with Miley Cyrus like I could see them doing some sort of like skit or sketch like that but I don't think it would be the full thing I don't think it would be the full thing either because then you're not really getting you're not getting Miley Cyrus's opinion on anything yeah you're not getting like the real behind the scenes yeah like you're not getting the real behind the scenes but it's possible I could totally see just a little bit of it though being like a little skit yeah yeah that would be fun but i just feel like from what we read in the disney press release that that's just not you know it was like miley we'll sit down and yeah it felt pretty detailed it did but i feel like there's gonna be more than what they just put in the press release because it wouldn't be just like well she's i think she's definitely singing like i think that's yeah you know for sure part of it i mean we've seen her with the wig on the wig is the wig is on we saw the pictures thank god so definitely part of it and i could see also why that would you would make you think like oh she's being hannah for most of this event but i like that i like that idea that it's probably that maybe they could do like a some sort of sketch yeah something makes it what's the difference between a skit and a sketch i think they're interchangeable yeah can we look up the different the definition difference of skit and sketch because i have been using them interchangeably but I do think they are different. I often use interchangeably in casual conversation to describe short comedy scenes. Sketches and skits have distinct definitions within the comedy industry. Generally, a sketch is considered a more crafted narrative-driven scene while a skit is often defined as a single dramatized joke or a more amateur informal performance. Okay, so it's the same thing. So it still sounds like the exact same thing. So it's the same thing to me. what do you like what do you think sounds cooler i feel like sketch like sketch from that makes it sound like a sketch is more like planned out if you're trying to be official i think you'd say oh that was a good sketch but like snl they're like sketches yeah like for well let's do a little skit yeah you know that's how i've used it yeah yeah a little riff yeah let's do a little skit right now yeah yeah that's our definition yeah well we just broke it down for everybody yeah it's it's it's gonna be fun to watch regardless but um I if the whole thing is like dramatized I'd be very surprised yeah I agree hey Rhea Fran and Noah this is Brooke from Texas um I'm wondering I am so jealous of Fran getting to go see Hilary Duff in concert um and I have like this delusion I guess now that I've been like a Taylor Swift fan and a Jonas Brothers fan that like Hilary Duff is gonna bring out like a guest on stage when she goes on tour or like have some sort of duet on her new album um and so I was kind of wondering like who would you guys want Hilary Duff to do a duet with um my millennial heart would love if like she could bury the hatchet with say Lindsay Lohan and like do some sort of duet with her I feel like that's probably like so far-fetched but um I think that would be really cool but yeah who would you like to have her sing with um good question so there so the album's out and there's no there's no like features or anything so that's um not like it's not like she'd do a song with somebody that's already on there but i go anybody in the disney that that disney era perhaps the cheetah girls reunite on stage with the re-duff you took the words right out of my damn mouth as soon as this question was asked cheetah girls hit my brain now I love the idea of Lindsay Lohan I think that's so fun and around that same time and era and like Lindsay Lohan had her album come out but I do think like a Cheetah Girls reunion on stage obviously we're thinking Disney right away I mean Demi Lovato's going back on tour and I know that they were like they sort of missed each other right it was like Lizzie McGuire was leaving as like that new wave of Disney was coming in but maybe if they collabed of some sorts on stage because they're both now touring. That could be fun. Like, oh, you come pop onto one of my shows. I'll pop onto one of yours. That whole thing. Demi did put on her story yesterday, like what kind of deep cuts and throwbacks do you want to see? Which is like, yes, Demi. Yes, you know what the people want. I almost replied to with a list of 15 songs. I didn't because I was like, she could actually see this. And then I'd be kind of embarrassed. But if it was just going into the, internet like just into the ethernet and no one was going to see it like I have a list yeah don't forget la la land these aren't deep cuts they're just throwbacks no no no that we want to hear yeah yeah no I could there's some like oh here we go again like there's just some ones that she's gotta she's gotta pull back out I hope she does but that would be that would be a good one I I wonder if Hillary will do any sort of surprise like that I feel like maybe she'll have maybe Maybe JoJo. Yeah. Ooh, that's a good one. I feel like JoJo would be fun. Yeah, and JoJo did, like, I think multiple Jonas Brothers spots. Jesse McCartney. Jesse McCartney. He's back out there. Did she announce who's opening on her tour? Noah, can you search that? I think she may have. But if not, maybe there's a way to tie that in where the openers are also sort of that, like, millennial throwback. here's a question for you I saw people debating this on tiktok yes hit me is hannah montana a show for millennial was it a show for millennials or for gen z because gen z was on tiktok being like back out like back off millennials hannah montana was a gen z show like this girl went crazy viral being like it's gen z I don't believe it to be a gen z show but here's i think it's pretty mixed but here's the question now i was born in 1997 yeah you're you're on the cusp so i'm on the cusp i think i relate more to millennials but you have some gen z qualities but i do have some gen z you are you it's mixed so it is sort of mixed yeah but like this girl i'm kind of torn i think it's a mix i don't think i think it's a There's not one sole ownership there. Because I think it was my, like Hannah Montana was, I think I was the perfect age for Hannah Montana. When did Hannah Montana end? 2010, I believe. 2011 is when the series finale happened. And it started when? 2006, March of 2006. So 2011, I was graduating eighth grade. So that was like perfect ending, you know, like Hannah Montana's ending. I think you've got to think like when it started. So this girl was like, I was seven years old when it started. And I was like, it's a little young. I think seven's a little too young. But she was like, I'm perfect. It was on when I was seven to 12. And I'm like, okay. But that's when it's, I think that's like when it started for you. I was seven? I feel like I was. Oh, no, no, no. Well, I guess. Yeah. So what age was I in 2006? No, I was nine. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, a little, yeah. That's a good start. Yeah, I feel like nine years old. Because you were 12, so it's like, that was a good time, but then you're like aged out kind of quickly. Well, I just think it's kind of in the, no, because it's not because I was obsessed with it. No, I know, but like just. But I think it's like 92, like people that were born between the ages of like 1991, 92, and like 2002. Well, no, my sister did not watch Hannah Montana, and she was born in 1992. Yeah, but I think your sister's like an exception. Like I know a lot of girls like a little bit older than that. Watched in Montana for sure. But I think like my sister was just like making fun of me for liking all these shows. I think my age was probably like on the on the older side. I mean, 2006, I was in sixth grade. And I mean, and if you're really to get critical here, like she's at that age when she's on the show. Like, you know what I'm saying? Right. She's like starting ninth grade. Yeah, like it's not crazy that you're like, oh, well, she is in high school in the show. Oh, man, it's so crazy. High school kids don't watch the show. She's in high school in the fucking show. So true. That's really a good point. And I'm like, not that they had crazy grown up storylines, but I was like seven feels. Seven feels a little young. And that's why I'd like to say I was the best age. Yeah, no, I think that a whopping nine. Yeah, I think that's a good age. But I thought that was very interesting because it is. I think it plays to both. Like I think there's a lot of millennial traits and Miley herself is a millennial. So yeah, but yeah, quite a debate. Why can't we share? I know. Why do people have to like, we own this. Like, I know. Well, that's why it felt like a little abrasive. She was like, all you millennials that think this show is for you, it's not. It was for Gen Z. It was like, okay, well, it was also for millennials. Yeah. Like, um, chill out. Let's just share. Why don't we? Exactly. Okay. Let's do another one. Picture this. It's Monday morning, you open up your laptop, and Outlook hits you with 87 unread emails. Your calendar now looks like a game of Tetris. 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So obviously them being on traders this season was a good cross-promotional effort with them having the Olympics this year and it all being on NBC and Peacock. But I just find it almost to be too good to be true or just a really weird coincidence that they've made it this far and all the way through Olympics coverage. I've never really thought of The Traitors being a show that had a lot of producer manipulation or influence. But I don't know. I just find it maybe a little suspicious that they have made it all the way through the Olympics. And I don't know. I'd love to hear your take on it. and if you think that maybe the producers had a hand in them making it this far. But yeah, thank you. Love y'all. Maybe I'm being naive, but I actually don't. I think that they're just two very likable people, and that's why they're around for a long time. I honestly don't think it has anything. Maybe I am being naive, but I really don't. Like, in my heart of hearts, I do not believe there's any producer infiltration on who's staying around the longest. Like, I think there's likable people. Yeah, and I also think that not to, like, I don't know. It's not really giving anything away, but I don't know. We've just had conversations with people that have been on this show. And on and off camera, no one's ever made us think that there was that much involvement production side. Like, in terms of storylines and keeping people on and things like that. because I think realistically there's people that they would have wanted to keep for longer or shorter. Like there's the same people like the people like at home sent that are sent home so early, you know, objectively, you would want production or want them to stay later. Because a lot of them make for great TV or they're great gamers and things like that. So I don't really think it's stay involved in that. I just think Johnny and Tara were also like gloriously bad at this game. and it's just like they made it to the end because the traders were like well they're they don't suspect us at all right so it's benefits us to keep them around because they just keep throwing names out willy-nilly and and they and no one knows so true that's totally an aspect of it like they're just not good at the game so it's easy to have them around they've also made friends really easily with people and obviously everyone in the show is is likable and has redeemable qualities that they make friends with people and people get attached to them and they end up going home so that's not the sole reason but i think there's a lot of layers to it and i don't think it's production production infiltration i think right by now a couple seasons in we would have heard about some sort of producers keeping people around or anything and and that's never been the conversation with traders it's actually quite the opposite the conversation conversation with traders i mean even when mark was here he was like no they they do a good job of really like keeping you in it so yeah no but it did work out to their benefit and them like not keeping their friendship as out in the open was probably a big factor we saw candace definitely protected johnny they were so close so that was a big one and in tandem i think they were always going to protect each other so it's like candace is protecting johnny which is going to protect tara so it's like i don't know they were able to make it to the end of that fact um let's do one more hey Hey, Rian Fran. This is Emma. And my hot take is that the new Vanderpump Rules is actually really good. But their mistake might have been as trying to rebrand Vanderpump Rules instead of doing something like Southern Hospitality where they got a whole new cast and a whole new show. But the VPR is actually really good. It doesn't have anything that's super heavy. I feel like we're watching Summer House and Southern Time right now. Some of this stuff is so heavy, like divorce and all that crap. And I just want something light and funny. And the new Vanderpump has that. They have people who have nothing to lose. They have awful singing careers. They're trying to kickstart. There's two cousins who do OnlyFans together. There's just the dumbest, pettiest girl drama. And it's really actually entertaining to watch. You just have to get into it a little bit. The first couple episodes aren't great. But once Angelica gets there, I promise you guys, if you can just get through it, it's so good and I really think you guys should try. Okay. Let me know how you think of it. Bye. Maybe I have to jump back into it because I definitely watched maybe the first four or five episodes and then stopped just because I was like, I don't, there's been so much good TV on. I'm like, I don't have, this is not a priority right now, but maybe it will slip back in. I have seen people saying it's, they love it. Perhaps it's kind of like a Wuthering Heights situation where it's like they could have benefit from just naming it something completely different like because no matter what keeping it vanderpump rules is gonna make comparisons to the old cast and the old drama and everything that happened and it's like if they just i don't know named it with something with sir i don't know like like just like kind of change it up perhaps people would think differently of it because with the same name you are always just thinking of the previous cast which is why like with the valley yes there are so many new people on that too but now like lala's on it schwartz is on it like they have such a vanderpump crossover but there's no vanderpump anything in the name that makes you think like oh they'd be on this show which is helpful yeah i agree i do think it's the comparison factor comparison factor that you're always going to have it just got renewed for a second season so like they're in like it's um i I saw that that was that Bravo announced that that's a lock. So I caught a couple episodes on the plane and I was like, what the hell am I watching? But I think if I caught it and it wasn't under the name of Vanderpump, I'd be like, what the hell am I watching? Yeah, right. There's a different tune. Absolutely. I think that really is such an important factor. And also now knowing that it did get a second season does make me want to go back into it a little bit because I'm like, OK, well, people are clearly liking it. enough that it's going to get a second season and they have confidence that it could be a good show i felt that way about southern hospitality i really didn't like the first season at all and it wasn't till later that i was like okay this is getting good i remember and now it picked up speed and they bravo was all talking about that too they were like no it's like second third season shows picking picking up more which i think is so true so they get their footing they get more comfortable being on camera and then all the all the realness comes yeah exactly which is why like I never was necessarily shitting on this new iteration in the first place. Like I wasn't like, I watched five episodes and it sucks. And I turned it off because it's, it's a first season on reality show is always hard for them to kind of figure out what the identity is. And it takes a while. So they are going to get the second season, which helps a lot. And we'll see what happens. Yeah. We see what happens there These shows kind of hit their stride in like the third fourth season Totally All right That wraps up the Pop Corner Keep calling in with your hot takes your voicemails and your opinions Pepsi Prebiotic Cola now comes in two flavors. In my hand, I have the original cola. We also have the cherry vanilla in studio and both are so delicious. 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You better believe I'm going to talk about it. And on top of that, you know that we have to talk about one of our favorite traders of all time for this season. So we are so excited. We are so excited to talk about traders always. Well, you, uh, the book is out now for everybody listening as you can get your copy, listen to it, read it, however you like to consume your books. But this is not your first book. And I wonder what brought you to wanting to write another book? I did not want to write another book. But my people said, you know what? I think another book would be great for you. And I'm like, no, I'm good. I don't need to write another book. And so then they kind of kept calling and I said, okay, listen, because I don't write my own book. I'm not even going to pretend that I do. I said, let me meet three ghostwriters, three of them. And if I connect with one, I'll do it. If I don't, I won't do it. So they had me meet with three ghostwriters and I love this dibs. Dibs just seemed to get me. She was a fan, got my voice and I had the best time writing this book with dibs so it turned out great yeah i think that's the most important part right is if you're not going to write it on your own which love your honesty which you always are and especially in this memoir as well is that you want someone who's going to replicate your voice and what you would sound like yeah and that is the hardest thing i think and you know luckily dibs knew my career and that i think is really the most important thing and knew about knew enough about me that they weren't like trying to catch up along the way. They just knew. So it was an enjoyable experience, even though it was very, you know, tough at times and sad and challenging and cathartic. It was, I'm really glad that I got to do it with dibs. So it was a good experience. And I feel like you can absolutely hear your voice when, when reading it. I think when, when I was reading it, I was like, Oh, this, I would have never known. It's a, it totally, totally sounds like it's coming coming right out of your mouth there's some amazing stories in here from you know life before housewives after housewives being a mom your relationship with harry and just like so many great life lessons i think and at the end of the day just being yourself is such a strong message that i think you have stuck to always no matter what through everything you've been doing. It's like, you got it. And you know, own it, baby. You got to own it. And you got to be yourself. And I think that that's been that's been so great. Was there anything that you maybe were a little hesitant to share in this book? Or you just you said, I'm putting it sharing all the stories? No, listen, I mean, it's really vulnerable to share a lot of this because, you know, I know it's like hot, hot button items. They're hot button items. And to talk about that sort of thing makes you very vulnerable because you know that it's going to be talked about and printed and put out there. And, you know, I knew that that was going to be the case, but I also knew that, you know, if I was going to write a book, I had to walk the walk and talk the talk and go there. So there you go. I had to live up to my own words. Exactly. And going back to Fran's point about, you know, just owning it, being yourself, you know, we've seen that from you for so long, you've been working in the industry for what feels like forever now. Who was Lisa Rinna, like growing up? Like, did you always have that strong sense of self when you were a kid? No, I mean, I did. And I didn't, you know, I grew up an only child. So as an only child, you get all the attention. And so that was a great moment for me as a child. You know, I really was able to like, be myself and free. And, and I think as you get older, And as you become a teenager, I became much more self-conscious and I was teased a lot in school and I pulled back a bit. So by the time I met Harry, I was not the girl that, you know, today I was very subdued. It's hard to imagine. But I tell a story in the book about us going to I think we were in Tahiti. and you know we were like I was posing for pictures before cell phones obviously he's got a camera and I was just sitting standing there like my arms to my side and he goes can't you do something like like go like this or like do something imagine and so I did and well he unleashed he unleashed the monster Harry Hamlin unleashed and said girl you you are amazing you got to like celebrate yourself. And so I did. And I have ever since. Yeah, we love it. I feel like, you know, seeing you and Harry's relationship just goes to show how much you guys support each other all the time. And hearing that story just from the beginning of like what he sees in you and even Harry talking about like, you know, housewives, you is not you, right? Like it's, it's a play on everyone around you sort of. Yeah. Cause you know, when you're on housewives, you are in reaction mode. Most of the time you are reacting to what is coming at you. And in life, you don't have to live like that. Most of the time, you know, you don't have things coming at you from all angles. I mean, yes, we deal with a lot of things in life, but I don't feel like that is normal in life, having just things coming at you constantly. And I'm a show like Housewives. It is that. So I think you saw, I think we saw me in kind of a survival mode on Housewives. You're just surviving and trying to get through what is being thrown at you. Yeah, I think, you know, you definitely share some insight to the making of the show, right? Perhaps a little producer involvement and sharing some tidbits here or there, which all feels like the truth to us, right? But you rarely get somebody to admit that that's how the show works. Is it something that made you a little hesitant to share or did you kind of say, you know, I don't really care what they think about me sharing this? I mean I think the shows have been around long enough to where it's okay to share it you know I think the audience is savvy now maybe you know 15 years ago I wouldn't have been so honest about it but I think the audience is really savvy and they already know what I'm saying so it's not like I'm speaking out of school yeah that is true when reality tv first started becoming a huge thing I think everyone just bought into it immediately. And we were like, oh my gosh, this all must be happening. But now with social media, we learn so much. There's more people who speak up about what's happening behind the scenes. There's more breaking the fourth wall, which honestly just gets more people involved anyway. And we still eat it up every single time. Yeah. I mean, I don't think it's going to change anything. I think you're like, oh, well, duh. Yeah, of course. I mean, And, you know, that's how that game works. Isn't it funny that even with the more knowledge that we learn about reality TV and producer involvement, that people still have the same reactions to the way people are portrayed on reality TV? Like it's hard for people to take a step back and go, oh, wait, maybe there's some involvement here. Yeah. Or just how the whole thing works that maybe you're only seeing a quarter of who somebody really is not the full picture of a human being, which, you know, that's why it's always interesting when people get put into these, um, these molds, you know, like you're a villain, you're this, you're that. I mean, it's because you're really only seeing, you know, one part of a person in that season, you know? And so then you decide, okay, they're this, they're that. And, you know, that's always a weird part of that game, I think. And it can so quickly change season after season. And it usually does change season after season. I'm sure you've seen it all over the internet because everyone has been loving seeing you back on TV, loving watching you on Traders. They're obsessed with it. And it's funny because everybody's thought process kind of goes back around. It's like, oh my God, now we miss her. Can she come back to Beverly Hills? like now everybody wants you back on the show. How do you feel about that? You know, it is funny to me because I'm no different than I was, you know, I just, I just showed you myself as playing traders rather than being a housewife. And, you know, the irony is that I think people, my husband says this because I always say, oh my God, I've been so hated for so many years. He was like, they never hated you. They always loved you. They just had a spin on it. But now they love you again, because they never stopped loving you. So you know, whatever. I think it's funny. I think that, you know, when I was doing traders, I knew that the audience would get to see me for who I am, because that's who I was there. And I was excited about that. Now going back to traders, it had been a little bit since seeing you on TV. What was that decision like for you? Because I I saw that you said it took a little bit for you to agree to do traders. It did. I, I was asked in September and I did not make a decision till February. And they were like, tick, talk, tick, talk. We need a decision now. And I just didn't know. I really liked watching it, but I just didn't know if I wanted to do it. You know, it's one thing to watch it, another thing to do it. so I talked to our dear friends one of their daughters who is the same age as my girls and grew up with the girls and you know best friends for life they live down the street and I knew she was a massive massive traders fan so I called her and I said can I come down and just have you tell me why I should do this show because I don't see it and so I went down had a glass of wine and by By the time we were done, I called everybody and said, okay, I'll do it. Honestly, a 27 year old convinced me to do it. And we are so thankful for her because Sydney Baco, Sydney Baco is the one and the reason why I did traders. That is amazing. And we are so thankful because, you know, like we mentioned earlier, you are one of our favorite traders we've ever watched on this show. Everything was just, I love to hear that. I love so entertaining. And the first time we were the first time we were like, this is a group of traders that we're rooting for. Cause normally you're, you, you pull for the faithfuls. You're like, ah, we hope they get them. But we were like, no, this, this year we're, we're hoping the traders can do it, which is why it was sad to watch, you know, a kind of crumble the way it did. But I want to know your, your initial reaction to being a trader. Did you go into the show wanting to be a trader or faithful? I wanted to be a trader because I thought, listen, if you're going to do this show, you might as well get the most camera time, right? And it's more fun to be the villain and the trade. Like I knew that that's what I would want to do. But of course, you can't control it. I thought it was probably too obvious for them to make me a trader. So I didn't really expect it. I thought, eh, it could happen, but probably not. And then once it did, wow, was I like, oh, my God, holy shit. Now I got to do it. you know, but you're right. It is something where you do, if you're going to be on the show, you want to be on the show. And that's, that's what, that's what we get. And I love that they kept it, not gamers right away as traders, because that has been a trend we've seen on the show. And then the gamers kind of took each other out fairly early. And you guys were smart because you took the gamers out pretty early. Was that a strategy on your part to be like, you know what, some of these people, I'm sure they'd be good. Let's, let's get the gamers out first. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's moment by moment and you see how people are behaving and you see and you learn, like, of course I didn't know anybody. I didn't know the gamers. I didn't know. I just knew that anybody that one survivor would be a bad-ass and anybody from big brother that one would be a bad-ass and they would be dangerous. And so the more you kind of watched, you picked off the people that you know were the biggest threats obviously if someone said your name they had to go um and I think we did that really well until Rob you know came for me basically I mean Colton I mean Colton slash Rob coming for me yeah listen there's so much conversation around all of that we're gonna dive into it now initially watching you Rob and Candace get in there and it's like oh the girls are are gossiping and they're chatting everyone's so excited and then it just went downhill so fast and people were on to you the speculation began quickly seemingly so watching and immediately as viewers were like oh no Lisa she's going down we're about to watch her go down how did it feel in the castle you know before you got banished did the speculation feel as high as it did watching it? It never feels as high as watching it because you don't know what's going on in the other rooms. You know, you're kind of naively blissful because you don't really know. I mean, I knew Colton was on to me, but I certainly didn't know, especially that second night that Rob was driving the vote. I had no idea because people would say to you, yeah, yeah, I'm going to go for Natalie too. when in their minds they're like, no, no, no, I'm actually going for you, Lisa. So you don't know that. I mean, once Colton was on to me, I knew that that was a problem because he's such a, like a dog with a bone, he's never going to drop it. And then once I was saved by only one vote, you know, Mark Ballas is the one who didn't end up voting for me and that saved me. You know, once that happens, you know that your, your days are numbered. And then literally when Jam Jam yelled my name, I, it was over. Like I knew it. I knew that's not how I had killed him, but the conviction he had as he's screaming my name, as he's being dragged out, I knew I was fucked. So, you know, I didn't fight that hard because what are you fighting? Like, I'm not going to be a screaming maniac when I absolutely know there's not much I can do. That's why, you know, I don't fight that hard at the table. I mean, there's more that I say that you don't end up seeing, but that's, you know, how that show goes. Um, but I am so thrilled with everything. I wouldn't change it. You know, yeah, I could have lasted one more episode if they'd gone down the road with Natalie because Natalie was going that time. And if Rob had gone there, I could have gone one more episode but that's it I mean you know once Jim Jim said the name there there was no stopping it when it comes to a game like this it's always the what ifs what if I did that what if I did this if I would have just fought a little bit more that's always the way it goes for everybody on the show who who loses right besides besides the winner when it came down to wearing the amulet you know were you kind of pissed that it fell on you did you think maybe Rob or Candace should have wore it? No, because I'm the one that said, I want to wear it. I mean, I knew that I was putting myself in that position, but I also knew that it would be totally iconic and great television and it would look better on my dress than anything. And I was willing to take that risk because I'm here to make iconic television and you know, that's what I did. so yeah I could have absolutely had Rob wear it or Candace but that's not who I am like I am there to deliver honey and I did as you did and jam jam going out screaming your name will live on forever and what an iconic moment that I kill him with the amulet he screams my name that I've kissed him like you kind of can't write a better scene so I was never sad about it I was just like this is so iconic like great it's so true and it's honestly what makes this show so great and we were we were talking to mark about this and because i was kind of saying you know you need the gamers but you also need the traditional reality tv people who just know how to make good reality TV. Like Mark's so great. He, but Mark wants to play a game. He's like, this is a game and less like make good TV. So you need people who also come in and know how to make good TV. One of those things is the housewives. And there's been a thing on traders where they've said, you know, housewives don't go after housewives. They, that it's like an unwritten rule. What did you think about that going into the show? I didn't know about it going into the show. Actually, I just found out about it as I was there because, you know, I haven't been a housewife for three years. You know, I don't think of myself as a housewife anymore. So I didn't even know about that until it started kind of a rumble of those are gamers. There's five gamers and there's five housewives. And all of a sudden I'm like, oh, I'm linked into a group. But I never thought that like I had to be loyal to them. I'm a traitor. I don't I'm not loyal to anybody. So I didn't really obviously sign up for that because I didn't do it at all. Right. And sometimes hitching yourself to a group is where you go down. I don't hitch myself to any group. So why would I hitch myself to a group here on traders? Do you know what I mean? They like other housewives wanted that, but that's on them. They can do that if they want. but Dorinda voted for a housewife. I voted for a housewife. I killed a housewife in plain sight, which was so fun. I mean, it's a game. Come on. If you can't, if you can't go there, like, I just don't, I don't, I don't agree with that. You have to stand by anybody because that's why I've never been mad at Rob. Rob's playing a brilliant game. He's a traitor at the end of the day. Yeah. It would have been really fun to kumbaya and go to the end because I think we could have actually i think we might have been able or at least two of them go to the end but the truth is it's called traitors and it's a game so if you are mad about it well then you shouldn't have played the game yeah i mean we totally agree with that standpoint as well i mean watching it obviously we were rooting for you to stick around but when we saw rob you know go against you we're like he's got to do what he's got to do to stay in this game and and that's how you play. I mean, I don't blame him for not wanting to go down with the sinking ship, but I mean, I was the most fabulous sinking ship ever. Of course. Did you think that, um, I know you say everyone's playing a game. It's so fine, but we've seen Candace kind of talk about Rob a little bit, and she certainly seems to have her, her feelings towards him and definitely doesn't seem like, doesn't seem like the biggest fan did you like have you and Candace talked about how that went down do you think like it's like Candace it Rob was doing what he had to do we have not discussed it because you know we go off at different times and then you go off in your life and we actually have not discussed it I obviously have seen you know how she feels and what has gone down but we we have not discussed it I think it's about time to crack this bad boy open. It's a Pepsi prebiotic cola. Delicious. Comes in the original cola flavor, but also the cherry vanilla. I have the cherry vanilla. It is so delicious because it has that great Pepsi taste. 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I mean, listen, I'm used to reunions, right? But this kind of reunion is different. I walk in and I'm literally in the hot seat next to Andy and I'm thinking, wait, why am I in the hot seat? I don't even go the whole way. Why am I sitting next to Andy? and then I settled down. I was like, all right, whatever. Um, I, okay. So people talk about things that need to be worked out at a reunion, right? Like it's about, it's about moving through stuff. It's about having a moment to be able to ask somebody a question that you never got to ask, you know, and, and Colton was my nemesis throughout. He knows it. I know it. We laughed about it, whatever. So I wasn't about to let this moment go by without asking pertinent questions, right? Whatever somebody feels about that, that's their own thing. My job was to ask questions and figure things out. And I did. I sure did. And I think that's fair. I mean, we saw some of the things that he said in his confessionals that all of us raised our eyebrows at as well. Um, so I think fair play to ask in accordance to the game. I mean, I'm not, I'm not talking about personal life. I asked him, you know, a question about how he chose to come after me and play this game as a trader. Um, we all saw what he did. We all saw him try to lure me in as, you know, I'll protect you if you protect me. So I don't think I did anything wrong at that reunion. I think that I did everything that you need to do at a reunion. And I just hope that they air it because not airing it, I think will make everyone really mad because, you know, we don't, we can't control what they air. Totally. Definitely. And I, I agree because I do think as viewers, we all have, have those, have those questions too. Uh, we've seen you joking about that, you know, Colton has unfollowed you on, on Instagram. I mean, I don't know that other than somebody actually said, did you know Colton unfollowed you? I said, Oh, I must've pissed him off. I mean, like that's all I can say. I don't know, but to unfollow somebody after you just followed him, like recently, I guess I must've done something. Do you still follow, do you still follow him or did you ever follow him? I do. I follow everybody. I followed everybody because, you know, I love that cast. I love everybody. So I think most of us followed each other, not everybody, but I follow everyone. Yes. You got to be back in the hot seat, like you said, for a reunion. I'm curious how you felt just being reunited with with Andy in that way. Did you guys talk about it before you sat down at all? Did he visit you in your dressing room beforehand or was it the reunion right there on stage for you guys as well? Listen, I've seen Andy off and on. I see him and talk to him quite often. So I just hadn't been in a reunion situation with him for like almost four years. But, you know, Andy and I always have, I think, great respect for one another, even if there are times where I've pissed him off and he's pissed me off or, you know, whatever. Yeah, I felt like home in a way in a weird toxic way. We loved watching your videos after each episode, your recaps, your takes, you know, one of the videos specifically you talked about not being fazed by Rob's good looks because of Harry Hamlin, which is hilarious. Um, because that has been a big topic of conversation right now. How did you feel about Dorinda basically going on and being like, it was an honor to be murdered by Rob. Because I didn't, it doesn't surprise me at all. I saw everybody and how they reacted to Rob. They could not look at him for longer than like one second. So if you can't look at somebody in the eye and like be with them, there is no way you're going to even be able to figure out, are they a faithful? Are they a traitor? You don't even care because you're so like everyone, male, female, dog. It doesn't matter who or what you are. everybody was so taken by Rob that I watched it and I was fascinated by it. And I went up to Rob the first night because he was kind of aloof and, you know, sitting back. And I thought, I want to figure this guy out. What's he about? Because I didn't know him at all. And so I started talking to him right out of the gate. So I felt comfortable with him before we were even traders because I'd had a conversation with him and kind of, we kind of got to know each other a little bit. so I think I'm really the only one that was able to like I don't know if anyone else could have sat there and played chess with him and done what I did in that moment where we killed Ron C you know I was just like I appreciate his gorgeousness I appreciate all of it but I'm able to sit in it and deal with him where most people none of them actually none of them can yeah you've been around it. I've been around it a long time. The girls bring their, you know, super gorgeous boyfriends around the girl. Everybody around is gorgeous. So it doesn't, you know, it's just like, oh, there's another gorgeous guy. It is. It is true. And I think, and I'm sure you've been watching it all happen, but it's been pretty funny watching Maura just really just not suspect Rob at all. She would really die for him at this point, it seems. And I know you guys have, um, have gotten close and I saw she was celebrating book launch with you and all these things. Is it something that you guys can laugh at now that, that you'd poke fun at her a little bit that you're like, man, you really trusted him. Oh, honey. I poke fun at everyone. The ones that can take it are great. The ones that can't, it's a shame. Maura is somebody that can take it like no one's business. We laugh so hard. She's one of my favorites. I love her so much. She has a great sense of humor about it all and totally gets it. And we laugh and make fun of each other constantly, I would say. Yeah. She's got that good old, like that Irish humor, you know, like she can, she can really take the piss as they, as they say. So, and absolutely. And she really does. I loved seeing that event. It looked like it was so beautiful. And you did have some of your fellow housewives there as well. What kind of relationships have you tried to keep with those girls now that you've been off the show? You know, it's always hard when you don't work every day with somebody like all the different shows, whether it's Days of Our Lives, Melrose Place, you know, you don't unfortunately get to see the people as much as you did when you were working with them. But I really tried to keep my relationships with some of the women on Housewives because we're trauma bonded. You know, we have history together that no one will ever understand. And I truly, you know, I love Teddy Mellicamp. I love Erica Jane. I love Dorit Kemsley. You know, I feel very close to these women and we really try to stay in touch as much as possible. Do you still watch the show at all or no? I have not watched the show since the day I left. Yeah, that's, I think that when you leave this world, you either can stay super involved in it or you have to blank it all out. And my way was to mute it all and move forward. And that's what worked for me. I feel like that is very fair. It's kind of like, if you're going to leave it, you got to sort of leave it all behind. Yeah. You almost have to go to like rehab and get it out of your body, you know? No, it's like heroin. Yeah. I want to talk about some of your previous acting roles, you know, early on. One of my favorites was when you're on Entourage. It always brings a smile to my face when I rewatch and I see you on that show. Do you have a favorite, you know, guest spot that you've done? Well, that's one of them. that was such a joy. I loved Veronica Mars, you know, the couple episodes I did there. Amazing. Like I've really gotten to do some quality. It was fun to do the middle. Um, that was really fun to do community. I've done some great, I've had some great moments. I really have like, just, I forget some of them and then someone will remind me and be like, Oh my God, that's right. I did that. It is. It's, it's so incredible to watch. And I feel like there's just going to be more and more of those moments now as they come, because not only have you taken over traders, but this, the last few years, you are fashion icon, Lisa Rinna, you're walking in shows. It's couture. You're it's incredible what you have gotten to do. Um, have you had a sort of pinch me fashion moment in the last couple of years that, that you can share with us? How about all of them? I mean, every single moment in the past three years has been a pinch me moment because I just didn't have that on my bingo card. You know, I love fashion. I always have, but to actually like be in it and going to these shows and being dressed by these designers and then walking in a show, like all of it is so crazy. And I just love it. It's so fun because then I also get to have these moments with my daughters and we travel together and I'll go see a show with Amelia in it. And then I'll also go do my own so that I, you know, I keep my distance with her so that she can have her own time. I go have my own time. So far, so good. So far it works. And I bet you have some amazing outfits sitting in that closet of yours that you're in right now. As I'm sitting in my closet doing this, I mean, I I've been so fortunate. I mean, this is, this is like everything I bought while I was on housewives. Like you spent all your money, like everybody just spends all their money, like trying to dress themselves for housewives. So I got a lot of really good shit from that time. But now it's like, you know, these designers are, they loan you these couture outfits because, you know, you would only wear them once. You wouldn't keep them. But I think, as you know, I, during the nineties, nobody would loan you anything. So you bought everything. So I have got like such a great archival nineties fashion moments going on. It's crazy. I have some really good stuff. Do your girls just like die to go through it all? Because I, especially now it feels like the nineties are so back in terms of fashion that if I were your girls, I'd be like a mama where, where's, where's the, where's the coat closet? Yeah. I mean, you know, it's funny when you're, when it's your own children, they're kind of like, Ooh, you know, it's my mom's. I don't know if I want to wear it ew like ew and then i'm like well but wait a minute it's literally tom ford gucci 1996 maybe you want to just think about that for a second and get get me out of it and just go take a peek at that because it is fucking iconic so like get it together right and then they take a second look and they're like actually on that note mom i'm stealing it and probably never returning it. Yeah. I mean, I, I will find shoes at Delilah's house and boots and bags that I didn't know, or sunglasses that they're big on accessories. I, I can't find those, but you know what they steal from me? This is what really goes underwear, bras and socks. I literally have to go in, but well, and I think it's cute that they like my underwear that I buy in my socks, but they steal them all. And I have to constantly buy new tank tops, new t-shirts, new underwear and new socks. And that's so funny. That's like an honor though. You're like, well, they think my intimates are cute. I guess. I mean, it's so funny because it's just also something you, you, you always put off buying those items for yourself. So it's like, they're like, Oh, new socks and underwear. I'll just go take moms. I'll just go to moms. Exactly. So I buy new stuff all the time and I finally said to Harry I said Harry do you know how much I'm spending on underwear socks and bras because our children steal them and he looked at me like what and he walked out of the room and that was that so listen if that's all it's I mean I get it yeah I get a kick out of it come on what what kind of of advice do you give your girls being in the industry? Um, gosh, you know, I try not to give too much advice unless asked. I try to live my life by example, because listen, do you, do you really want your mom to tell you what to do? No, but by example, they can see how I go through that world. They can see how Harry goes through that world. And that's how they learn the most. And then if there's an issue and they come to us, we can discuss it. And so I think it's by example. I think it's by living the way that we live that they've really figured out. And of course we drilled in them that most important thing is kindness and, you know, anything else, not okay. Like that's number one and professionalism and being on time. So yeah. Right. If you want to have a long lasting career, you know, all the kindness and professional is also important. Yeah. So they know all of that and they know that I would literally kill them or grab them by the ear if I heard through the grapevine that they were being shitty little bitches no more no more underwear and socks for them yeah I I loved I loved the chapter in the book where you're talking about them and I was I I was laughing out loud at the Vanity Fair Matt Damon story of you saying you know he held this Oscar up to my pregnant belly these, she had no choice. She's going to be famous. That is, it's just, it's just, it was part of it. You acknowledge it. Did you ever think like, did you always kind of think they'd do something in the industry? I mean, you never know, but that's the family business. I mean, you know, it's our family business. I, that was not my family business. You know, my mom didn't work and my dad was an art director. So I think that, you know, I'm not surprised when you turn out that gorgeous and you're that talented, if you don't do something with it, that would be a crime. So they're smart. So true. And that they are absolutely stunning. As we wrap up for the people who have not read the book yet, haven't had the honor and privilege like we have, is there anything that you want to tease that you think is just an absolute must for people to get their hands on this? Well, I think that people will be surprised because there's so many different things that I cover. You know, it's not like a housewife tell all, even though I cover that time in my life. But I think there's so much about, you know, if you're a Days of Our Lives fan, you're going to get great tidbits there. If you're a Melrose Place fan, you're going to get great tidbits there and things that I've never talked about and things that people don't know about me. So I think that's great. If you want some relationship stuff, motherhood stuff, hormone replacement. You know, I cover a lot of shit in this book. I really do. So I, it's a, I think it's a quick read. I think it's a fun read. Um, the best thing about it was Harry read it in an afternoon and he said, your voice is all over that book. It totally came through. And I thought that that was a big win that my own husband was like, and he thinks it's just a great book. He loved it. So I think that I was most worried about him reading it because, you know, it's like a snapshot of our life in the last 36 years or 33 or however long we've been together. I've lost track. Um, but you know what I mean? He said he cried a lot during reading it and it's just a really great moment to have when your husband says, you know what? You did good. You, you fucking nailed it. So I'm very pleased about that. Well, it's perfect timing to going along with traders and people just wanting more from you and just craving more from you. And here you are giving it to them. We really lucked out because this book was supposed to come out in October. And they pushed it because I guess from COVID, so many titles have been pushed forward. They said, how would you feel about pushing it? I was like, I don't care. And then look at it could not have been more perfect. perfect. I really couldn't because it's you get such a good insight on you. And I loved what you I love what you share about your mom. I know us viewers of Beverly Hills got to see so many amazing moments with Lois and she was such a star on the show. And hearing you like talk about her through the book is so fantastic because like you said, we got to see little pieces on the show. but really reading your experience through all that is such it gives us so much background information on you know what you were going through after she passed and things that weren't at the forefront of like what was being discussed on the show but you had to deal with it like having that happen and then immediately having to go film and go on these trips it's just it's it's pretty crazy so I think you get some really great insight into into all that that was going on. And the last thing I want to say too, is about, is about the way you talk about Harry. And I think so many women can learn from it is that you're, you, you guys have been married for so long, but you still have so much admiration for each other. You joke, you joke around with each other. You can poke fun, but at the end of the day, you're like, that's my man. That's Harry Hamlin. And I, I love that because I think that sometimes couples can lose that. They can, and they can start to devalue one another very quickly. And it's the trap that most couples can get into. And I think that we just really have to fight against that and, and lean into the area of how much you adore this person and always wanting to cheerlead for them. I think that that it's like being a parent almost like that's how you'd be with your kid, right? Like you would never want to devalue them. So I think you have to think of that in your relationship because it's so easy to be like, I fucking hate my husband. I mean, so many of my girlfriends are like, I hate my husband. I'm like, no, you have to figure that out. You can't hate him. You have to figure out what do you still like about him? Right. Yeah. And it's like you're with this person for a reason. And you should be champion, you know, like should be a cheerleader for them. Like all these things, like pumping them up. That's what you have each other for. So I love it. I absolutely love it. Well, I'm hoping that that's a good thing for people to see and go, you know what? I need to be more supportive of my spouse or whatever, because that's what I think we're here for. Totally. Lisa, thank you so, so much for joining us. We're so happy we got to talk to you. Hopefully we do get to do it in person sometime soon because we would love to have you in New York. As soon as the weather allows us. Exactly. Because hey, once we get this reunion, hopefully we have even more to talk about, but we can all watch the How Traders comes out. And of course, your new book, You Better Believe I'm Gonna Talk About It, is out everywhere now. Like I said, read it, listen to it. However you consume your books, I'm sure you can get it on there. So Lisa, thank you so much. Thank you, girls. So nice to meet you and talk to you. Yes, thank you so much, Lisa. All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. 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