Alien Expert Breaks Down Spielberg’s "Disclosure Day" Movie

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Download Polymarket and use promo code PASS for $50 free on your first trade. Use promo code PASS. Trading not available in all jurisdictions. Check local regulations before trading. Restrictions and eligibility requirements apply. What are you going to do? Full disclosure to the whole world. That truth will up and down the established order across the entire world. This is a story about us. All of us. Good morning, Kansas City. Up against the most extraordinary event in human history. Whatever happens, don't you let go. I have not yet seen Disclosure Day. I saw the trailer. I've spoken to a number of government sources and the supposed UFO disclosure. And I guess I'm going to have to go see this movie, even though I don't believe in aliens and I think the whole thing is bunk and nonsense and even worse. My guest, Derek Warfell, has in fact seen Disclosure Day. He is a filmmaker and author, a researcher with more than 40 years of experience in Hollywood. And he has a book, UFOs and God, Revealing Deception and Truth Behind the Supernatural Invisible War. Derek, thank you for coming on the show. Thanks for having me. So right off the bat, without spoilers, at least first, how was the movie? Technically, it was great. The stunts were great. The acting was incredible. The score by John Williams was incredible. The only thing that was bunk was the message. But the rest, technically, as a filmmaker, the stunt scene with the car and the train was, I still don't know how they did it. I really don't. It was an entertaining ride. But the message, I think, is if aliens were trying to put together a propaganda puff piece for themselves, they couldn't have done a better job than Steven Spielberg did on this film. I mean, it's amazing. And I wonder, since I think that aliens don't exist, but the propaganda puff piece does, then I begin to wonder, well, OK, what is this a propaganda puff piece on behalf of? And so before we maybe we'll get into some spoilers in just a moment. But for right now, just from the trailer, you mentioned the message of the movie. Two lines really stuck out to me. The most extraordinary event in human history, referring to the disclosure of the extraterrestrial aliens. And I thought, well, hold on. Hold on. I'm a Christian. So I think that the most extraordinary event in human history is when God becomes incarnate and then conquers death on the cross and is resurrected on the third day. I would say this is not only not only is this the most extraordinary event that has taken place in history. This is the most extraordinary event that could possibly take place in history. So when the UFO people say, well, actually, the most extraordinary event is going to be when little green men come down and say, we come in peace, you know, Dumbledore or whatever, I don't know, you know, like Darth Vader, then that to me represents a totally contrary view of history. The other line that stood out from the trailer remind us. Oh, yes, that this event would remind us that there's something bigger out there than just ourselves. You say, well, hold on. I don't need to be reminded of that. I know that there's something bigger than just myself. I try to pray every day. I think I pray every single day. And so here you're really seeing them hammered home that the UFOs and the aliens are a kind of substitute religion, a reenchantment of a disenchanted world, a new kind of materialist religion for people who gave up their religion. Final line, wouldn't it be wonderful to know this was all true? Steven Spielberg says this line in the trailer, wouldn't it be wonderful to know? And I'd say, I don't think it'd be necessarily wonderful to know that little green men are out there prodding people, probing people. I don't know, are they good or they evil? Why would that be wonderful? Just like, I don't know, if I discover there's some new species of bear, I guess that's fine unless the bear is going to come eat me, in which case it's not so wonderful. But you clearly see the religious theological virtue of hope is just clearly being directed at totally the wrong place. Am I wrong? No, no, you're absolutely right. I mean, you know, if you're a Christian, you believe that there has been a supernatural realm of beings that for lack of a better term, we call angels that have been trying to deceive us and destroy us. Jesus calls them basically kill, steal and destroy. That God created a realm of supernatural beings called angels to do his tasks. One third of them rebelled against him and have been at war with him for ever since. And their goal, since they can't get back directly at God, they go after us, okay, to deceive us, to destroy us, to kill, steal and destroy. And this has been true throughout all of history. The ancient Near Eastern gods, the ancient Egyptian gods, the Arabic Jinn, the demons that Jesus ran across. I mean, there's been various movements, ghost, poltergeist of supernatural, paranormal beings that seek to distract and destroy us. This with aliens is nothing but a new coat of paint on an old deception. I believe there is something there. I think there's just too many examples of credible sightings, too many examples of people who have been quote unquote abducted. I don't know what that exactly means to basically just write it off. But it certainly is not intergalactic travelers. That just is not true. And the reason why science just proves it, we spent a time interviewing Hugh Ross, who's an astrophysicist, and he gave several reasons why it's just utterly impossible for them to be intergalactic travelers. One is there's no other planet exactly like Earth. There's too many things that are fine tuned to make life possible on Earth. Second is the distances are too great. I mean, just to get to the closest star to us, Alpha Centauri, traveling at the speed of Voyager 1 would take 75,000 years. But if you go 10 times faster than that, it's still 7,500 years. And that's the closest star. And the other thing is the possibility of life occurring by chance to get one simple bacterium by chance, by absolute chance and time. It would be 10, they calculated to the 556th power to one. That's 10 followed by 556 zeros to one. Just for comparison, the California State Lottery is 10 to the ninth power to one. It's just impossible. And the reason why is since science came in, science is a technology to test hypotheses. But scientists have taken it to another level and made it a religion. They basically start with the premise that there's nothing outside the material universe. Well, that's an assumption. It's not a tested assumption. Every single culture, every single religion admits that there's something supernatural beyond what our physical beings are. But modern science rejects that, not because of evidence, but because of an assumption. When you start with that assumption, you're going to run with the wrong conclusions and you're going to find our military even basically thinking, well, these must be beings from other planets or other galaxies. Yeah, this is the thing. I've spoken to members of the government and they insist. Even people who were skeptical at the beginning, they insist there's something to this. This might be real. Yes. And it seems like there are, I guess, four explanations for what the UFOs could be. One of them is little green men. One of them is hallucinations. It's just people imagining them, which again is hard because so many people have seen so many of the same objects. One of them is demons. That's kind of, it seems like your thesis, my thesis, the vice president seemed to have advanced that thesis. And then the fourth option is China. It could just be a geopolitical adversary. And I was speaking to a member of the government and I asked him, who was pretty privy to these matters. And I said, I don't know which is scarier, that it's Martians, demons, or the Chinese. Frankly, it being the Chinese is probably the most scary to me. At least my cosmology takes into account demons and angels. My cosmology doesn't actually take into account Martians, but I don't know if they're good or bad, but I know the Chinese have it out for us. So actually that would be the worst for me. Is your thesis that the UFOs are demons or do you leave possibility for other explanations? I think demons is the wrong word to use. It's a supernatural evil realm. Demons we think of as little chubby men in skin tight red suits with a pitchfork and horns. That's not how I think of them. I recognize there's this image of devils and things, but I don't really think of them that way. I think of demons as a sort of spiritual creature who rebelled against God. And I think some people use the term that way. If that's what you're saying, I'd say fine. But Ephesians 6.12 says there's four types of supernatural beings. There's principalities, powers, world forces of darkness, spiritual forces of wickedness and heavenly places. In the book of Daniel, it talks about one of them as the Prince of Persia. Literally, these are very powerful beings. I mean, cartoons and Renaissance art has positioned us to believe that they're just kind of foolish little cartoons. And I think what I'm saying is they are very, very intelligent beings and very powerful beings. And so I tend to like to use the word supernatural evil spirits because it covers a much broader term. China, I doubt it's China. These spacecraft or energy fields have been clocked at somewhere between, in our atmosphere, 400,000 or sorry, 40,000 to 200,000 miles an hour. That's Mach 55 and up. Our fastest jets travel at Mach 3. And even the experimental ones are Mach 5. These guys are going at Mach 55 and then they disappear. I don't think China can do that. And I think most people in the military would say that they can't. So I don't think it's China. I don't think it's all hallucinations. There was a scientist, a psychiatrist in Harvard who basically, Dr. John Mack, who interviewed a lot of these people who had these abduction experiences and he said he couldn't find any psychosis. They actually had some experience. So obviously there are some that are probably hallucinations. I mean, people like Hugh Ross have said that probably 99% of what these contacts are can be explained by natural means. But there's 1% that just cannot. I mean, the videos that were taken by the US Navy ship in 2003 of these craft, video, radar, forward infrared radar, it can't be, and you can look it up online. There's pictures of it. And we interviewed one of the radar operators who was on that ship and he said he watched this for several days. It doesn't, I mean, you have to explain that away. It's not easy to explain. There's something going on. And I believe the best explanation is the supernatural realm. Go to go.pepperdine.edu slash dailywire. Most people consume politics, a much smaller number of people make politics. They write policies. They advise elected officials. They shape institutions. They influence decisions that affect millions of people. And if we're being honest, many of the people currently occupying those positions are not exactly covering themselves in glory. So where do future policymakers come from? Ideally from places that still take ideas seriously. That is what makes Pepperdine School of Public Policy interesting. I've been a fan of Pepperdine School of Public Policy for a decade now probably. People can specialize in national security, American politics, or local government and learn directly from fellows including Victor Davis Hansen, Kieran Skinner, Robbie George, and Barry Strauss. And because that program operates in both Malibu and Washington, D.C., one of those places is nicer than the other, students get exposure to both intellectual formation and practical experience. I actually love Malibu is great, especially when it's not burnt to ashes. And D.C., Foggy Bottom, I love it. Perhaps most importantly, Pepperdine remains committed to free inquiry at a time when many universities seem determined to discourage it. If that sounds like something worth exploring, visit go.pepperdine.edu.com. That is go.pepperdine.edu.com. The problem is we live in a scientific age that has eliminated the possibility of a supernatural realm. Yeah, yeah. I agree with that. I agree. I guess my question then is how the spiritual realm relates to the physical realm. I totally agree. The scientists just take it as axiomatic that only material exists, which is contrary to reason actually. You know, it's contrary to what every society has thought for all of us. So frankly, including our own. But I recognize that the question is if these are spiritual beings, that is, they don't have bodies, then why do we see them? If it is the case, as has been reported, that we've recovered some of these unidentified flying objects. If they have a physical dimension, does that complicate the idea that they're spiritual creatures? Well, there's two answers to that. One is if you look at angels, I mean, holy angels in the Bible. Because remember what we're talking about here are fallen angels that have many of the same characteristics. The Bible says you may have entertained angels unaware, which means they can look exactly like us. Okay, they can look exactly like holy angels. The Bible says that even Satan can look like an angel of light. They can shape shift. And I think the one thing that ancient aliens has done is pointed out that whatever these beings are, they can shape shift. They can manifest in the material universe. I don't know for how long or whatever, but they have that ability. So I mean, Jesus ate fish for goodness sake. But Christ was resurrected bodily. That is to say, he not only came back as a spirit, but his body actually walked out of the tomb. But I think your point is right where you see this in the Old Testament and in our modern life all the way out, not just through the New Testament, but all the way up through our modern life that people do see angels. They actually see them and they actually talk to them. And so you make a good point, which is that somehow they can have a physical appearance. I think the angels that visited Lot ate with him. So I don't know what the limits are. All I know is that angels can manifest in the physical realm. Whether they manifest fully physically, I don't know, but they can be seen. They can be recognized. And I believe that fallen angels can do many of the same things that holy angels can. They may have lost some of those. The other option, and this is a little bit wild. Remember I said the angels can do everything we do. If we can create spacecrafts, they can they if he's or what's it? Ezekiel one talks about an apparent spacecraft that was run by holy angels. If we can create robots that are almost lifelike, so can they. And think about it, when we send something to Mars, we don't go there ourselves. We send a robot because we can't survive there. Right? Well, maybe they can't do as well in our three dimensional time and space. Maybe many of these grays are in fact very sophisticated and rights because. And when you say grays, by the way, I've spoken to buddies who are into the UFO research and the gray, I say, what are you talking about? Little green men, they say, no, no, no. The proper term we use in the community is grays. These little gray men who you see come up in a lot of these UFO stories. So your suggestion, which has never occurred to me is what if the grays are just kind of machines? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, now obviously they have some sort of flesh coat and that flesh coat can die. Because aliens who have been in captivity from us have apparently died. OK, but do we believe that that has happened? I mean, is it within your thesis that we actually because I think it's all bogus. I don't think we've actually taken in when they refer to non human biologics. I don't believe. What do I know about? I don't work in the government, but I am very skeptical. Do you believe we've actually retrieved alien bodies? Yeah, I think we've retrieved bodies. I don't know that they're they're they're actually angelic. I think they're kind of robotic bodies if they're retrieved because they've died. The reason why is there's a pretty documented case about an alien called J. Rod, who was validated by both a military officer and a biologist who is given to take care of him. This is Area 51 that that that he helped them reverse engineer one of these crafts. I don't know if they ever completed it or not. But the point is there's I mean, they're they're on the books. They had to sign NDA and they broke the NDAs. Now, you're right. There's we don't have, you know, solid proof that people can go and talk to them and you can interview them and things like that. But I think there's enough evidence out there and a lot of it's been locked up that there were probably were these beings. And I think the best explanation is that they're they're androids. I mean, the film Avatar is interesting to me because you have a guy who's a military guy who's disabled, but he is able to put his hands into this robotic body and enter this realm that he cannot survive in on his own. So I think it's possible. I mean, I give credit to this. A guy called L.A. Marzulli, who first time I heard it, I thought, well, that's a possible the other possibility is that when a leaf falls from a tree, it looks exactly like it was initially. After a few days, it looks very crumbled up and discrepant. When fallen angels separated from God, they were separating themselves from their life source. So it's possible they lost many of the abilities they once had and the ability to manifest physically in this realm may have been lost. And we would call it that they died. Like, for instance, demons in Jesus' day, Jesus points out that when demons are cast out of a body, they go over waterless places. It sounds interesting. And then they come back to the person they were cast out of and they come back into him. Apparently, there is some need for lower level demons to inhabit a physical body to manifest in this time and space. And so it's possible that the ones who basically at one point had that ability to manifest physically can no longer do that. So I think it's one of those two things. You know, I wonder too, on the technology point, you know, there are all sorts of writings and theories of people who write about demons and spiritual matters that, yeah, demons actually might have something to do with technology. I mean, this in a way is kind of the Prometheus myth that you have this this figure come down the mountain and give technology to man. And so you see this crop up a lot. I mean, there are all sorts of kind of wacky theories, though. Interesting nonetheless, how demons, you know, help people to build pyramids or something. Well, I don't know about the pyramids, but you can just look in modern science. There was an Indian mathematician who basically came up with some amazing things. He hadn't had much formal training. And you know where he said he got his formulas from? Where he said he got them in dreams from a Hindu goddess who gave them to him. So, yes, I mean, there's a book called the Akasha record. You know, we don't have it. It's somewhere in space, but apparently is a compilation of all these demonic. Discoveries, I mean, they have been studying science and biology. I mean, look at look at look at the magicians and Jesus. I mean, Oppenheimer quotes the Vedas when he creates the nuclear bomb, right? He says, I am become death destroyer of worlds. An eccentric buddy of mine calls the nuclear bomb Shiva magic. I don't know. Maybe maybe he's speaking out of turn. Well, look, look at the Egyptian magicians in Moses Day. OK, they threw a rod on the ground and it turned into a snake. What did that happen or not? They basically turned water into blood. They basically were able to match Moses miracles up to the frogs. OK, they obviously had some biological ability and they've been studying biology for thousands of years. Can you imagine if Einstein could study physics for thousands of years? You know, they're very intelligent. I mean, they're trying to create their own world, their own race of human beings. And there's a thing in the book of Revelation where the Antichrist is supposedly assassinated and then comes back to life. Well, they I mean, look at all the cattle mutilations. Why are they doing that? Because they just like playing with cattle. Yeah, this is also this is one of the theories that the aliens come down and they mutilate cattle. I remember those stories from like the 90s. Yes. Well, why do they do I kind of forgotten about that? Why do they do that? I think it's studying biology. You know, I mean, basically you find that basically cattle are similar to us in some ways. I mean, they're trying to create their own race, I believe. They they were stopped in Genesis six. The sons of God tried to cohabitate with women and God stopped that. But they still want to create their own race. They want to duplicate God. Again, it gets back to the basic thesis that they are trying to lure people away from God. They're trying to dethrone God. And you see this very clearly if you see it, obviously in the temptation of ease, but you see it the temptation of Jesus, where basically Satan says to Jesus, you know, bow down before me and I'll give you all these kingdoms of the world. Jesus must have thought, I don't have to go to the cross to save these people and get them to follow me. But if in doing that, he got Satan would have split God, the father and God, the son against each other. And how do you defeat the superior enemy? You divide and conquer. Yeah, right. Conquer. Jesus didn't fall for it. But Eve did. And basically because of that, when it wasn't just her taking a bite of the apple, it was her submitting to Satan. And when Adam did the same thing, they had been given dominion over this earth. But when they basically accepted Satan's thing and accepted his rule, they lost dominion. And the Bible even says Satan is the ruler of this world. Now, he's limited by what the Holy Spirit allows. But he is. But he is. The Bible says it many times. Yeah, Satan is the prince of the power of the air. So to bring us full circle, is the disclosure day movie? Is it just like a sort of technically impressive, otherwise kind of goofy, a little off kilter movie? Or apropos of the rest of our conversation, is Steven Spielberg's latest movie, Satanic? It certainly is. I would say basically, as I said, it's a dissent. Remember, they have been trying to deceive us from the beginning of time. If they can say that we are just your solar friends here to help you to the next level of evolution, which is what they say when people have contacted them, you know, basically you can trust us. The one line in the film that sticks out to me is when was it Margaret? The weather woman says, you know, don't be afraid of what you don't know. In other words, if you are afraid of what you don't know, you're being xenophobic. Does that sound like something else in modern politics? Right. You know, don't be xenophobic about these people. Well, apply that principle to every other area of your life. Suppose you're going to a mortgage broker. You don't know him. You don't know anything about mortgages. You just don't be afraid. Don't be concerned that you might get cheated. If you're in the woods and you don't have a good map, don't be afraid that you might be wondering into area where, you know, Cougars are or there's a waterfall or something. I mean, that's absurd. They're trying to say, look, you know, trust us at the. I don't want to give a but there's there's an alien in the film that basically says, listen. Don't don't criticize. Don't analyze. Don't evaluate. Just listen to us. And I mean, that I mean, as I said, this is a huge propaganda piece that if you don't listen, you're being xenophobic. Think about, you know, to your point on this, think about the just more terrestrial political point. One of the criticisms I've seen of Disclosure Day is that Steven Spielberg is just sort of the eternal Lib Boomer. And this is the last gasp of just open borders, you know, welcome the foreigner kind of politics. And so that actually his agenda might be less Luciferian and more just kind of wrote Lib, milk toast, ultimately destructive politics. Or I guess it could be both. If I had a chance to ask him one question, I would say, Steven, did you ever have an encounter with one of these beings when you were a child? Because there's stories that he had imaginary friends. Of course, that could just be an innocent thing. Yeah. But it seems like you look at close encounters, you look at E.T. There's something there that says, you know, he has had experiences himself. He may not have talked about them, but I don't think he sees himself as demonic. I think he sees that, you know, the world needs to know about this, you know, is that there's another realm out there. The problem is, ancient aliens says this in almost every episode. We are not alone. We've never been alone. And I agree with them. We're not alone. Yep. We've never been alone. The problem is that they're not who you think they are. They're far more dangerous and things. Let me just give you one thing. They talk about the fact they show that humans are abusing the aliens in this film. OK. They never talk about the people who've had contact with these beings. There's a thing online on the government's sites. People have had contact. They have headaches, fever, nosebleeds, heart palpitations, burn skin, nightmares, brain problems for Alice's, temporary loss of time, temporary blindness, intense fear, nausea. We've documented in the film people have lost their family. They've lost their finances. They've lost a lot of things in life. If you don't believe me, look at the book by Jack Sparks, who has probably been abducted more than anybody else. You wrote a book called The Keepers. Read that book and ask if that's what you want in your life. You know, I mean, basically, these are not friendly beings. They say they won't hurt us and they hurt us. You know, and so there's a sense in which, you know, it's like we're the bad guys because in 1973 we dissected some aliens. But they're perfectly good. You just got to trust them. You can't. It's as I said, don't be afraid of what you don't know. I mean, this is ridiculous. It repeats that twice in the film. Well, you know, then sorry, go ahead. You know, that's that's I mean, there's a lot of things I could say. I don't want to catch you off. No, just a last question on this point, because my friend, who's an exorcist, Father Dan Rehill, he publicly said that he he wondered if it might be spiritually dangerous to watch the movie. He wondered if there was a sort of curse on the movie or something like that. For people who are watching this right now, we're saying it's technically a good movie, but it's got all this bad stuff in it. But it's kind of interesting. Would you encourage people to go see it? Well, I would say like any other film from Hollywood, you need to go in with your defenses up. There's this one scene where basically the weather woman is clicking. You know, it's like that the aliens are speaking through her. I put fingers in my ear at that point, because I don't know what I'm hearing. You know, I've studied a lot about subliminal messaging, you know, and how that works. When people I even encourage people if there's a UFO outside, let's go out and look. I say don't because they are very sophisticated in how they try to manipulate people. We know that strobe lights can throw people off with epilepsy. Right. And there are lights on these spacecrafts that flash off and on. And I who knows if that could be affecting you. Certainly that clicking sound, I don't want to take a chance. I don't know what's what's subliminal beneath that. You know, I think you can go. I watched it and, you know, I was just aware, as I said, I put my fingers over my ears for the clicking sound because I don't I don't know what's what's coming across. I don't know what's the limit on message might be in there. But I think you're OK. But I think just like I I'm probably going to write my next book will be how to analyze Hollywood films and how writers manipulate you to tell you what you don't believe. But but but seriously, I mean, it's like literally they use I don't have time to go through it. I could go through all the tricks that kept and Spielberg used to get to subtly manipulate you to to their point of view. You know, it's it's I think it's OK to watch the film, but I would just be very, very careful, be very careful when you go in. You know, I think, you know, but but it's a very persuasive film, as I said, it's a great propaganda buff piece. You know, I mean it. I mean, they basically say aliens respect empathy more than anything else and humans don't. And I just read off to you things where there's no respect for empathy of humans. Yeah. I mean, it's just it's a flat out lie. Yeah, everything there that you're telling me about the movie that there might be subliminal messages that it's a very technically well done propaganda puff piece for aliens who are most likely actually demons. I don't know. I'm probably not going to go see it. I would much rather talk to Derek Warfell about it, get the review and then maybe go out and get the book, which you can all get right now. UFOs and God revealing deception and truth behind the supernatural invisible war. Derek, thank you, you're a noble and Barnes and Noble, and you can go to my website, UFOsandgodbook.com. And you'll get a lot of information. Yeah, absolutely. You can go right to the source. 350 pages. I go in a lot of detail. Much, much better use of your time, I think, than going to disclosuremovie.com or whatever the website is. Derek, thank you very much for coming on the show. America, go farther. Fly higher. Dream even bigger. People do. Since 1879, our people have been more than a source of energy. They've been a source of progress. Today, that same progress is helping deliver record US energy production, fueling the workers, the makers, the boundary pushers and risk takers who sparked the breakthroughs that move America forward. Learn more about what our people do at chevron.com slash USA 250.