Ep 91: Swinging in Europe - Kat's Gone Wild XXX Edition

Find us at vanilla swingers.com and you'll find Kat's only fans page there too. You wish. Hey Kat. Yeah Leo. I'm going to record one of those silly disclaimers that you put at the beginning of the podcast. Real advisory sticker. Let's go because this is going to be explicit. Oh yeah we're going to talk about lots of sex. Lots of bad language. We might even have sex on the podcast. We might have. Listening to the noise of our love making. There might be nudity. But you can't see it on the podcast. Doesn't matter. You can hear it. You can hear the nudity. We might corrupt you if you're under the age of 18. That's the disclaimer. Don't listen. We're not professional. What else? And yeah we're not professionals. We know nothing. Absolutely nothing. And if you want to try to sue us? Well we don't have any money either. Because this is bite-size and commercial free. We're not trying to make any money. It's fun. So if you like it. And tune in and listen. Subscribe. Word. They say you can never go back. Well our swingard guardian angel Stuart Scott. Boo-yah! Says that was a damn lie. We're talking about Prince Italian full swap Edward. Say what? We are back from Europe. We had such an epic trip. Now let's stop for a minute here. Because I realize that sometimes we make references to previous podcasts. That are new listeners. They have no context about it. Right. Because we're like a little bit of a soap opera. And you know if you're watching a soap opera and you miss a year, you don't know what's going on. So rather than make you go listen to episode 20. I bet you didn't know it was episode 20. No. In fact, don't listen to episode 20. It probably sucks. It was so terrible. I have no doubt about it. We actually recorded that one if it was the one from Rome. We recorded it in Rome. So in 60 seconds or less, fill in the listeners on who Italian Edward is. Ready, set, go. Two years ago, early on in our lifestyle journey, we took a trip to Rome. One of the earliest clubs that we went to in Rome was one of the most terrible clubs we've ever been to. There were exactly three people in the club besides us. Bad romance. Ba-ra-ah-ah-ah, rumor, rumor-mah-mah, ga-ga-ooh-la-la, once you're bad romance. When we got there, it was this tiny hole in the wall club. There was us, one other couple, and this ridiculously handsome single guy that looked exactly like Robert Pattinson from Twilight. So much so as far as him being so attractive. Leo, for the first and only time ever in our lifestyle history, he leaned over to me and said, don't even think about it. When I got up to go get a refill of our drink, he turned to me and he said, would you like a nice Cuba in your cup? It turns out he was a really chill guy. I invited him over to the table. I told you to cancel the Uber. And the rest, as they say, is humpin' history. We played that night in the club the next night. He came to our hotel. He invited him to a hotel and it turned into this saga that ended with us doing the aftercare of aftercare walking through Rome at three in the morning for hours. And we never heard from him again after that until we wrote just about three weeks ago thinking we're going to be in Europe. I have his WhatsApp phone number. We should reach out to see if he's around. But he was probably the best looking guy we've ever seen in the lifestyle. He was just your quintessential Italian, young, 22-year-old guy with… Danglee earrings, a cleft chin, moppy hair. He looked exactly like Edward. If you're team Edward, you'll know what we're talking about. Fast forward. Two years later, we had the idea to reach out to him, not knowing whether he would even be in existence. Not knowing whether he would remember who we were. In fact, I said, hey, this is Cat and Leo, you're American friends. I'm not going to say the one you had the menage à trois with. He wrote back within 10 minutes. And he said, I have been thinking of you and so glad you reached out. And then it escalated into, when you come to Roma, we should make a plan to see each other. And you still don't know what that's code speak for. Yeah, we didn't really either one of us spell it out. Oh, I'd like to do that again. He could have had a girlfriend. That would be a very high chance. And Italians are so friendly that it would not be beyond the realm of possibility that he just wanted to get a drink with us. Yeah, there's a real innocent sensibility to them. Well, it turns out there was nothing innocent about the letter maker plans. And I should say that was just the tip of the iceberg for our Europe trip. But before we jump to that, this European trip, it started out on completely different circumstances. Yeah, it was going to be us with little batty. And we were going to probably go see Dutch in Timberlake, the Dutch guy I've been sexting for six months. But it would also have taken on a tone of really being a touristy trip because she'd never been to Europe before. So we were going to go to windmills and the Eiffel Tower and all the touristy stuff that Leo and I have been to many, many, many times. Yeah, that turned out this was the Catlandia. World tour. It was like triple X Catlandia World Tour. There was something very comforting knowing that we'd been there so many times that we didn't have to do windmills, wooden shoes, wheels of cheese, the Eiffel Tower. I don't think that we actually saw the Eiffel Tower. So we had four experiences. We're only going to talk about three of them today. It was the sextation to end all sexcations for cat. And all I can say is we burped the Tupperware for you because Europeans are sexy. Oh, you're talking about a couple play. Yes, Europeans are hot. We won't talk about the fourth at length, but it involved a ridiculously cute Dutch couple friends with benefits couple. And we're not even going to impact that. No, but Leo and I, let's just suffice to say we see where the couple play is at when there's a four way chemistry and is pretty freaking hot. But the landscape as it was is that it was Kat's turn. Italian Edward came in third place. Yeah, he bronze meddled in Kat's Olympic World Tour. The Dutch couple was an honorable mention. And that's only because things went a little bit awry. They were great till they weren't great. We'll get to that in the next episode. Otherwise, that might have been pretty high up there. That might have been that might have edged out Edward. That might have been the bronze. It might have nudged him off the dais. It might have. And we'll get to that. Can you even believe I'm telling you that an amazing, amazing, amazing experience with Edward was actually the bronze medal. Well, let's start here. OK, I'm so excited. The first thing had been horny to get off. I want to get off your chest. I've got an ample test. You were showing it to me this morning. I was wearing leggings and no shirt. I'm like, I look bucksome. The first thing to get out of the way is. Uh huh. Is that. Oh, I know what you're going to say. American girls, especially American blonde girls, are really the height of exotic to Europeans. That's actually wasn't what I was going to front run you. I know you're going to say something else. But in turn, Europeans are extremely exotic to us as well. So we find them fantastically sexy. It is such a match made in heaven. They all have little accents, whether it's French or Dutch or Italian. And it's so sexy, especially when you get them to speak their native tongue to you in an audio memo. Oh, yeah, you talking about the Easter egg you got later on in the pod. I haven't translated them. I'm so excited. Let's take that a step further. And that is go ahead and front run. European single guys exceed American single guys under the age of 30 in every way, shape, they are manacorn material. They have high EQ, wonderful soft skills to end all aftercare. I compare a 22 year old magic Mike in Vegas, who very recently gave me a booty call at 3 30 in the morning, woke us up, called us on the telephone. Hot garbage. Hey, are you up? I'm so horny. I'm so drunk. Can I come over? No. Absolutely. And I compare that to a 22 year old architecture, Parisian student who laid with us in bed in an aftercare place for like an hour until the sun came up. Now, we're talking about a specific niche inside of a niche because we know we have a lot of single guys that listen to our podcast. And I'm hoping that you guys are not the ones with the poor IQ. No, we do have a lot of listeners that are single guys, but we're talking about specifically single guys under the age of 30. It's a hidden and quitted mentality. It's a hookup culture. They're mostly dog. Yeah. And when I think back to like a magic micro surfer boy, they don't hold a candle to these Europeans that I met for a few hours in one night. They just outweigh them in every way, shape and form. I think the bottom line is one of the things you said when we came back was I look down my list of all the people in your proverbial stable. Yeah, either the ones I hope to see again or the ones I know I'm never going to see again from the United States. And you wouldn't call a single one of them back if you had these European. No, because at the end of the day, they don't treat me well enough. And what I'm giving to you is just ridiculous. And I think that that goes to another point that if you're a wife, a girlfriend, a single gal out there in our lives and so many are struggling in the same regard as we are with the single guys in the States. We've heard their complaints. After a while, you get ground down by the way that they treat you. It affects your confidence. You start to wonder, is it me? Yeah. And I'm here to tell you book a ticket to parents and they will restore your faith in single guys, single hand-to-lake. Because there's such a fascination with Americans, especially if you're an American blonde, but just being an American. They find that so captivating as we find the European appeal. I'm going to go you one further. I told you that the MFMs really haven't been hidden lately like they used to. Yeah. And he really imparted this to me on our European trip. And it's not that he's been cock-blocking me. Don't get me wrong. It's not why we've had like 16 MFFs to our one Magic Mike MFM this year. It's really the state of single males is why we've had so few. It's gone to the point where I just haven't enjoyed them as much. And so maybe that is out in the ether, because we're all kind of about the cosmic, the universe speaking to us. And so while he literally wasn't cock-blocking me and saying, I don't want this for you, Kat, or making things not happen. You talk about what is in front of us is what's meant to be. Right. But I'm just saying by you kind of having that feeling of, I don't really like the MFMs. They're not hitting as well. You're talking about I'm dragging my back foot. Maybe that's why they're not kind of presenting themselves like maybe that's why surfer boy just didn't materialize. Maybe at the end of the day, you blame me for putting karma out into the universe. I hear what you're saying. I don't you think I'm saying my prayers bedside to Stuart Scott, our Swinger Guardian Angel, which by the way, that's another one. That's another one of those segues. OK, ready in 60 seconds or less, we're going to explain why we have a Swinger Guardian Angel named Stuart Scott. Go. Early on in a lifestyle journey around the time of Edward, it was around the time of Edward, in fact, it was like it might be where we first mentioned him. I bet it is. I'm laying my head down on my pillow that night and I had this dream and I was at this party. It was kind of the first entree into the lifestyle. So I guess it started sneaking into my dreams and we're at this party. It's maybe almost like a nude potluck or something, but it was at a very fancy. That's sexy. Yeah, I know, right? I've got my potato salad. And at some point in the dream, I get this guy talking to me and he's like, giving me advice. And I realize it's Stuart Scott. He was an ESPN color commentator. You might remember him with saying he's like, oh, yeah. And cool as the other side of the pillow. I thought you were going to get that wrong, actually. I know. Yeah. And I actually was aware of who he was. I was familiar with him. And he was saying some kind of ultra sage advice because we were such newbies at that stage in our life. Then things started happening in our lifestyle journey that were too wild to be believed. We weren't good enough at playing this game without somebody having a hand in some of the good fortune and experiences that we ended up having. And some of the bad misfortune, the things that were like, oh, God, that didn't happen. We really felt like someone is pulling some puppet strings for us. And then I realized that Stuart Scott had passed away years earlier. And I thought maybe that's what it is. Maybe there's like an angel from It's a Wonderful Life. Every time Kat gets an extra dick in the bedroom, a newbie couple enters the lifestyle. Oh, my God. So we use it very colloquially at this point in our own conversation. Oh, my God, Stuart Scott made that happen. And so who is the guardian angel? I don't know. It could be like his grandma because she was a bit of a Randy sort. Did you just say a Randy grandma? I think she was. That sounds kind of weird. I mean, you don't think she was, but you saw some things on the edges that you feel like she'd probably be OK with what we're doing. Maybe she was in the lifestyle way back in the day with the potluck in the potato salad in the nude. You talk about the Casarole. Yes, oh, my God. And so we literally say it all the time to ourselves. Oh, my God, 60 seconds are up. And to segue. OK, where were we? So it became readily apparent that we were going to see Edward. And one of the things I told you is that he's wired different. It was so readily apparent because we actually had to change our trip. We had plans to go to Amsterdam and Paris and we had to throw in a Rome leg and try to make it sound all smooth to Italian Edward. Oh, yeah, sure. We're going to get a room for a weekend. Oh, my God, because you don't make it sound like I'm coming just to see you. No, not the move. But there's been some precedence for that because in the past, we had a bartender we met at a lifestyle club in Budapest. Morris, he was so cute. He was a 20 year old, really, really adorable bartender in a club where we didn't really find anyone we wanted to play with. And I was getting a little tipsy and I told Leo, I think he's the cutest guy in the whole club. And you asked him, do you play with anybody? And he just laughed and said, I'm not allowed. But the next night we came back and I asked again, because I don't usually take no for an answer. So I'll get three nos before I stop. And this time he slipped to his number and he actually made plans to come see us. But we had left Budapest to go someplace else. I don't remember where. And we ended up buying a ticket to go back. So there we are in Piazza Navona. We snap a picture of one of the fountains, text him, meet us under the lamppost at 9 p.m. next to this fountain. And he replies with, ah, the nap, the tuna. Yeah, of course, you know the name of it. And you have to understand it's been two years. We don't have photos of each other. But we did know that his hair was a lot longer. I saw some photo in his WhatsApp from the back and I'm like, I think that's him. And I think he's got shoulder length hair, which would have been really different than the broccoli hair he had when I first met him. We talk about Samson hair here. Okay. It's long enough that it's distracting. So there we are getting dressed, heading over to Piazza Navona and we go and he's what's apt us. And there's somebody standing underneath the lamppost, but there's two guys. And one has a really short hair. One has really long hair. And I'm like, they're in shadow. And I'm worried. Am I going to still be attracted to him? It's been two years. My taste might have changed. I don't know. Spoiler alert. He was Samson under the lamp light. And I would be honest with you. It was really hard to get my head around the long hair. It was jarring for sure. And it really was jarring from beginning to end, but it did it anyway because he's Edward. Like if he fell asleep on the couch, I would cut his hair. I might have cut his hair. And he definitely looked different. He looked more mature going from 22 to 24. He looks like a man now. I think he grew. I think he's taller. I think he's six and a half feet tall now. He was very tall. I know. Nobody grows at 22. What is that? I don't know either. Maybe it wasn't Edward. Maybe it was his evil twin, the brother Luigi. He actually teased after the fact we said maybe that was his older brother. And he said, Luigi, they'll never know what does the difference. Except you have your very sensitive nipples. So I'm sure you'll catch your one. She'll have no idea that it's not really me. And so, yeah, so we met at a little bar, a little trap that we shared some drinks. He doesn't drink. Yeah, that always makes it always drinks of water or Coke, zero. So much easier. But we'll get to that in a minute, too. But after a while, we start talking and we're having this lovely reuniting of friends. And he's really telling us about how much he enjoyed seeing us and meeting us and all the memories he had. Like, we're surprised. Wow, you remember that? It was really quite magical, but it was in a friendly way. We still weren't sure. But we're dancing around the elephant in the room. Is this going to end up in the bedroom? Do you want to go back at the tour apartment? And have a sex with my wife or cat? Yes. It was that he always had a bit of a wooden personality. I think that this is a moment to take a pause and talk about something that was a revelation to us. I would probably describe Italian Edward as a little bit neurodivergent. When I say neurodivergent, I just mean maybe it's like an ADHD thing. Maybe it's like a tad bit of social anxiety, a little shy, a little bit introverted. You know, we're talking about neurodivergent. I'm eating in my nose right now. OK. I need to finish chewing. Then you go ahead and chew and I'll take it from here. OK. I don't think I'm neuro-typical. If anything, I'm probably neurodivergent myself. Maybe it's more on the spectrum of introverts versus extroverts. And I think introverts, like being around people, it's just that it can be draining to their social battery. We're not introverts. No. But I'd say we're ambiverts because you're not no amber. We don't get energy from people. We end up giving it away. So we can be very extroverted, but it does drain the social battery. You're dead to the world after. Introverted just means you need some alone time to recharge. And I think that what we realized is that when we go down the list of our friends, our play partners, because who doesn't keep a list? It was revelatory. How many people fit that description that you would consider neurodivergent? And I think what it is is that we like them very much. We do because then we talked about the few that were more neuro-typical. Rusky, my very first full swap. Pornboy. And to be honest with you, they were not our favorites. And I'll tell you why. Whatever it is that we do, I think the neurodivergence are picking up what we're putting down. And when they do, they tend to respond by wanting to be around us, wanting to be with us. And so then that feeling of needing, that feeling of being wanted. It feels like being loved. And in response, we show them the love. Because we have a real nurturing kink. Like we like to nurture. It's probably why we do a pot. We really want to help people out. I like to help people out. I have a nurturing kink. Yeah, the fastest way to get in with us is to trigger our nurturing instinct. For sure. Which is probably why we really, really like the newbie energy as opposed to OG energy. You talking about couples? Yeah. With couples, they have each other. So they're never going to need you kind of surf again. We are definitely the kind of people that look for deeper connection. We love, love, love the connection. And we get more connection with the single. They're going to just get up and walk out that door. And with singles especially. Especially European single men. They even give you that I want to be with you kind of feel. We're the kind of people that you can be around where we'll 90-10 the conversation. We'll handle 90% and you can just sit there and you can listen. You can be entertained. Or you can just nod your head and smile and that'll be okay. So in the case of Edward, I remember us talking about the first time we were walking through Rome at night. Because we didn't spend a whole lot of time talking to him. It was mostly bedroom play. At the end of our second play in the hotel, we walked around Rome for like three hours. And at the end of it, Leo and I were like, that was so hard. We're like, oh my gosh, we've never done this kind of aftercare. He's not an easy energy for us. It felt hard because at the time I think we thought we've never done this before. This is all new to us. But I think it turned out that he had a quiet, shy personality and it did require us to be 90-10ing. We had forgotten about that. And we can 90-10 with the best of them. But sometimes you're looking for a little more 60-40. Which we get with Tatiana. Oh, we're talking about Tatiana right now, aren't we? Tatiana. Also get it with Pussy Galore. Tatiana is from our backyard. It's very unusual and we're already talking about... How much debauchery we're going to get up to in public in our own backyard. And she just told us, I hope she don't mind us saying this, that one time she took a guy out to a state park and she tied him to a tree and he was scared of her. He was scared of this Russian girl. She was talking to Russian to him and he thought that she was going to kill him. That is a match made in heaven because that is the kind of wild... I am so scared, guys. Oh, you're scared. I am because between Leo and Tatiana... Oh, that's right in my wheelhouse. Oh my Lord, I... She tied me to a tree and said... I got two kidneys. I ain't scared. You love it. Oh my God. She's so going to do that now. It's on. Oh. It is on. We got to get back to Edward, OK? So we get to the cafe, we're chatting, we're chatting, and we're... He gets up to go to the bathroom, which was fantastic. Well, we were scorting around the elephant in the room. Do we invite him back to our place? I'm going to excuse myself to the bathroom and you had like 60 seconds. Go. And Leo and I are like, what do you think? I don't know. Leo's like, what do you... Do you want to do it? Are you trying to spill? Hurry up, he's going to be back any second. I don't know. He's not the same. This is a little awkward. I don't know what to do. The brain does that, where... It's hard to go back. The first time everything seems like the world is on fire. It seems easy, effortless for us. Sometimes that means the 90-tenning. You get to tell all the dumb stories and they're new, they're fresh. And we were running out of stories. Like there were times Leo would be talking and I'm like, you already told him that story. And he's like, I don't care. I'm telling it again. Sometimes the second time the brain can be a bit insidious. It starts to nitpick things. It starts to... Effectively, the shine comes off just a little bit. It was really the hair. The hair was so radically different. It's like if you came through with a shaved head. It was just so radically different since I had no photo of him. It was just my memory. It was hard for me to bring it together. And in fact, we did not come to a conclusion before Edward came back to the table. Oh, yes, we did. Kat looked at me and she said, I think we should just leave it as friends. You actually had a moment. And I said, we have come all the way to Rome. We are going to have some meat balls tonight. If we did not say that out loud, all of a sudden while he's back, I see Leo. So this is going to sound a little crazy. I was going to shoot our shot. We came this far. I'm so shocked. I'm not leaving until I find out how this ends. And you know, I'm going to fast forward. I told Leo at the end of it, I am so glad you did that for me because I would have missed out on an amazing experience that had me glowing for days because I was just feeling a little hesitant. I opened this point in the conversation by saying, so when we first met you in that terrible club two years ago, my question for you is, have you ever done anything like that since then? And he looked at us like we had two heads like dumbfounded. Like, why would I have done something like that again? And he said, no, I never did anything like that again. He did impart that. And by the way, you like that. Yeah, you wanted it that way. He said it would only be downhill from there. Yeah, it was interesting because at various points in meeting him, we got to talk about the Zapruder film on the grassy knoll where we started exchanging things like what was your impression when we first saw you in that club? And we got to tell him that Leo leaned over and said, oh, hell no, don't even think about it. I got to tell him that you said, would you like I secure in your glass? I think he thought that was funny. And he laughed. And we said so many things that were left unsaid the first time. He told us that he would not have played with that couple if we hadn't shown up. Yeah, we said, what did you think when we walked in? He said he was talking with them for a half an hour and he planned to leave. And if we hadn't showed up or if we had said no, he would have just left empty handed. So he said he'd never done anything like that again. So naturally, my next question was, what do you want to ever wanted to? And he looked quizzically. He really gave us a non answer at that point. So I decided I'm going to go ahead and push. Oh gosh, he really shot a shot this time. And we were there dangling on total rejection because he might. You're talking about a little earring. He did have his earrings that helped a lot. You just couldn't see it because of his long, lovely life. Yeah, well, I felt them quite a bit. We should have done the Italian Edward Bandbun. I would have solved it. It would have. I actually held his hair up quite a bit. Did you? Yeah, in the moment. You just didn't see it. Maybe I should have held his hair up. Just like feeding him in, right? Can I hand in my man card? No, so we were dangling there on the edge of rejection because he might have looked at us like, what the hell are you talking about? I'm here to have a social call. We had no idea. Edward, would you like a scrunchie for your hair? That's got an extra, I promise. I'm going to sit by and do it and braid your hair where you have a full swap with my wife. And so what did you say when you shot your shot, honey? I said, what would you say if we invited you back to our apartment and we picked up where we left off? That's right. You said to be continued. And we said that our boundaries have nudged considerably since then. We already had that conversation that, can you believe we never even kissed and all these things. And he was thinking at the time, our very limited boundaries, no sex, no kissing. He said, I thought you guys had been doing it for years. And I thought that's just where you were at. And Kat asked him at one point and then he gives this really nebulous answer. I think he said, maybe we can try. Yes, I try. I'm not in a relationship. I couldn't tell if he was saying yes or no. We're like, rejection, we're being rejected. And so then I also asked him, when you came out tonight, did you think that that was a possibility coming back to our place? And in a beautifully neurodivergent way, he just looked at you blankly and said, yes, of course. And so that was all I needed to hear to be like, OK, this is what he wanted. I wanted to feel wanted and desired, not just like, I'll just do this for the hell of it. I think we love the neurodivergence. I think we do too. I think in a way, when I say the misfits, I think when I say we all have a screw loose, I think in a lot of ways we all are a bit neurodivergent. I'm not sure any of us are what you could describe as neurotypical. I we're not typical at all gravitate towards them. I think they gravitate towards us. I think we make beautiful music together. So we go back to our apartment. It's this cute little Airbnb. It's got the bedroom upstairs and a loft. We start downstairs. And I think we started by a Coke Zero because you remember from two years ago, he's not a drinker, but I like to go because I bought three different kinds. I bought Fanta Coke and Coke Zero. She did that. So it wouldn't look like I remembered it from two years ago and I'm stalking you. Just a little bit. You're like, oh, casually, would you like a Fanta? Would you like a Pepsi? Call it a Coke Zero. To which he drank it all and I kept the empty Coke Zero can. Yes, I did. That was my souvenir. So we met him under the lamp light in the shadow of the Neptune statue. And now we're back at the Airbnb. Proceeded to. You started kissy-facing. And it was he was a really fantastic kisser. I started braiding his hair. It was nibbling my lips and it was really quite lovely. Like I remember the first time his hand came under my shirt and it was just. And now let's go back for a second here. Wonderful. We talk about. I don't want to go back. I want to go forward. Pat has been walking in a desert in America for like the last nine months. It's been water, water everywhere without a drop to drink. I think I've had three guys that have been post full swap and they've been kind of increasing in what we do, all of them. But I've had so many missed opportunities. Absolute like cluster. So I can't even believe these things happened to me. It was enough to make cat start to get ground down. I told Leo multiple times. I think I was feeling very insecure. And when we went to Europe, it was salve for my soul. It was like a flash flood and we were putting out the buckets. And you were so fantastic to really put out all the buckets for me to set that stage. When we had Edward back at our Airbnb, it was about to go down. And if I had to braid this mother's hair, I was going to braid his hair. It was time because I owed cat in such a way you can't eat. It's ridiculous. So Leo gave us a lot of a low in time. I was giving him a manny penny. I was like, would you like another coca-cola, Edward? And I'm not going to get into all the nitty gritty, but we had an amazing time. But at the end of it, it was the three of us laying in the bed naked. And it was such a dreamers moment. Yeah, you talk about the movie. It was about some students in 1968, Paris during protests. It has kind of some threesome asque qualities, although two of them were siblings. What the sigma? So let's just pretend that they're actually boyfriend, girlfriend, not we got to pretend that wasn't part of it. I remember I have just a vague memory of the movie. There was just this scene where the three of them are hanging out in a claw foot bathtub, smoking a J and just being. It felt so threesome, the ruffle. And we have those moments with the single females all the time. But the reason why we called this our dreamer moment is it was two guys and one girl. And we really have never had that. Well, that's mostly because guys in America at the soft skills, the emotional IQ, right, you know, they come post not clarity. They put my pants on and let me leave. No aftercare messages after nothing. Hit it in quitted mentality. And so we probably laid in bed for over an hour and he pretty much wanted to go out into the Roman night walking with us again. He actually made a phone call somewhere. He was going to take us somewhere to recreate that three hours of walking through Rome again. You knew it. And I think I was having such a moment in bed like he was caressing me. He was looking at me with such adoring eyes. We'd kiss. I was touching Leo. Just a little ancillary. I was making the meat. We mentioned this feels like a dreamer moment. And he actually knew what the movie was. At first, I thought he didn't understand the translation of it. And then he said, the movie in Paris is what you're talking. And he said, I'm actually set to watch that movie with a friend of his, somebody from school. The next night. Unbelievable. I said, well, now you're going to have to tell your friend what you just did and that you had your own dreamers moment. And I think that part of the impetus for him wanting to just spend that time with us is because of what I'm talking about. The 90 10. Our energy meets their energy. We very much just like being around their energy and they very much like being around our energy. And the culmination was, is that we ended up not. We ended up not because I felt that dreamers moment was so transcendental, even from our entire trist of hours. It was just the culmination of so much. It felt loving and adoring. I didn't really want to mess it up with us walking through Rome, not knowing what to say, feeling a little awkward. Yeah, he and I were bromance in. We're just talking about life. You were in the middle of the Oogooie Gelato sandwich. Can I just tell you how much I like Rome Gelato? Yeah, I know, because the first night we went and we shared a gelato. By the way, put your two fists together and interlock your fingers. That's the size of the scoop that they put. I know, but it is so light compared to like Ben and Jerry's or Baskin Robbins. And on the next night, Kat was like, I'm talking about get my own. That's because we weren't going to see Edward again the next night. So I'm like, if I'm not going to have another threesome, I would like my own ice cream, please. That's a pretty big thing. And at the end of it all, the next day, Edward gave me the aftercare messages of aftercare messages. One of the things we did before we went back to the Airbnb, sitting around at the Tarataria in the Piazza Navona. There's these buskers. There's these sellers that come along. They sell little trinkets. And one of them is a guy who'll take Polaroid pictures of you. And why this was kind of important is the first time we met Edward two years ago, we went into Piazza Navona by ourselves after we had left him. And we were on such cloud nine. You're bumping along on a lime scooter over the cobblestones. Yes. And we were absolutely in a ring next level. And one of those Polaroid guys took our picture at like three in the morning, two years ago, and we're both holding up three fingers. And we have just absolute shit eating grins like the cat who ate the canary. And it was an amazing photo. We still to this day have it in our room on our bedroom. Yeah. And we thought, let's go ahead and recreate that. We never got a picture of him. He never got a picture of us. And the guy took a picture and part of the little hustle that he's got is he says, let me take another picture. I say, yeah, go ahead. And then the first one wasn't a good one. And then he tries to sell you to. But then I thought, you know what, let me go ahead and negotiate with him. Were you already thinking maybe Edward would want one? Absolutely. And so the send off was we kept one of the Polaroids. He asked, can I have one of the other photos? Yeah, we gave it to him at the end of it all. Normally, we don't share somebody's private text. But I think that this really captures the flow of energy that we have with Edward, Italian Edward. So he texted us on the way out and we said, we enjoyed our dreamers evening together so magical until next time we're in Rome. Chow and he wrote a same for me, guys. I always carry you in my heart that Polaroid will probably stay a lifelong memory. Enjoy the rest of your vacation. Maybe life will bring us together again. Could you guys just be any more happy for me? Be still cats beating heart. Oh my God. Like a little bit of a love. The kissing and the full swap with Edward. But really the spaces between. And then I'm trying to tell you this was my bronze medalist of Europe. And yeah, sorry, bro. Say what? Because we ended up going back to Paris and the buckets were out and it was a flash flood. And I had two guys that had been in my phone since before we got to Europe. I reached out from Paris. They were my two favorites and they both were coming along on our last night texting. Hey, what are you doing? Let's get together. Now, we had experiences in Amsterdam with a couple in Rome with Italian Edward and in Paris with back to back. Yeah. MFM same night. You little dirty girl. Let's just say our last night in Paris. Greedy girl. We had to leave for the airport at 645 in the morning and our last guy left at six in the morning and we decided not to sleep. Yeah, that happened. But I'm going to give you the TLDR. If we could only pick one or pick in Paris seven days a week, twice on Sundays. Book it. Anybody listening to this? If you're out there, if you've been ground down by the state of E&M, the grind of the dating culture, dating apps, the way field is, we found all these people on field. Field is amazing over there. Field is absolutely fantastic. It's done a good enough job at reducing the friction of getting people on the app, putting pictures that don't have their faces covered with emojis. And it doesn't matter. Language differences, language barriers, everybody that we spoke with spoke English. We don't speak French. We don't speak Dutch. We don't speak Italian. I remember when we first started out on field, the first thing we said, coming from the swinger websites, I don't even know if you'd call them an app. It's like a dinosaur. You got Cassidy, SDC, SLS. You know how they are. Cassidy is the best of the three. Everybody will show their photos, headless, maybe just the female, maybe one grainy picture. There's really limited in the way of photos, front-facing. But SDC has a much bigger global footprint. And so we did get on to SDC. You got to kind of try everything. We went to lots of clubs. It may work for some people. We got on for a month. But it was terrible. It was really terrible. And wouldn't recommend it for ourselves. And we said of field, when we first got on it, there's no way that this could be real. These must be AI generated profiles because everybody's got well-framed, close-up shots of their pictures. Leo couldn't believe he's like, what is this? Like HD photos? Like there's no grainy photos. What is this? Nobody's hiding behind emoji heads. I don't get it. We've got photos that have some emoji heads, but we show more on our field profile than for sure we show on an SDC or Cassidy profile. Well, pro tip, you're going to have to. If you're on an app like field, when you're on the dating apps long enough, you get to the point where it's barely even read the profile. It's an Olympic event to go swiping so quickly. Like if you're going to be funny and you're going to put a photo up of scenery, you're not even going to get a second chance. Right away. People have fingers of fury and they are swiping. You have a millisecond and it's got to be your first photo. Don't even care about what you write in the profile. That is secondary at best. And if you've got a good torso and no face, Kat's going to probably try to look for the second photo. But that's just me. If your face is your weakest asset, you can get away with probably cropping your head and showing a body photo and you'll probably make it to the second round. Yeah, you might get a little like. So then you're like, Hey, let me see some face pics. Fast forward. We're in Paris. We're in Paris. You're lining up a couple of guys. And we already had these two that we really I really liked them. But one of them, he came into our phone the night of Edward at three in the morning. We are having reclamation sex and I have one of them. That's right. And so the specifics of that matter, because you had asked him, send me a couple of more face photos. And he did. But because we were in the middle of an MFM, three hours elapsed where you went radio silent. And I think he panicked and he thought maybe I didn't like what I saw. I should sweeten the pot. And so he and I had already talked about he just mentioned he had experience with MFM, but never had an MFMF. And I just teasingly said, well, bring a friend's with benefits and we can make that happen. And he said, maybe I can. And so, you know, fast forward, we're still talking more MFM talk. But I think he thought maybe I didn't like what I saw. But another pro tip is on the apps, guys who present themselves as a single and at some point in the conversation, try to sweeten the pot by saying, maybe I'll bring a friend. I am universally skeptical of that. I think that that almost never happens. And most of the time it's an intentional subterfuge. And so we very almost didn't see guy number one who we skeptical of it. You are. We're going to call him too good to be true. You talking about Mr. Too Good to Be True. Yeah. And we so, so narrowly missing him. And I told Leo, I don't care if he has a girl, I'd rather an MFM anyway. Yeah, I know your greedy little id was like, I don't want the extra girl. I just want the extra guy. He just felt like there was subterfuge and he didn't want to be made to be look like, oh, yeah, you're fooling me. I certainly ain't book smart. Nobody's ever going to claim that I was the brightest bulb in the tool shed. But I do pride myself on being a little bit more street smart. And I don't like somebody thinking that I'm just naively getting tricked out of my wife. At this point, we're in Rome, we're post threesome with Edward, and he is sending us at three in the morning photos of his friends with benefits. He's like, oh, she's awake. Here's photos of her. She wants to see photos of you. We send photos. He said, oh, she thinks you're cute. Maybe we can make this happen. Backing up a little bit. We did touch on the honorable mention experience we had in Amsterdam with the ridiculously cute Dutch couple, which really opened our eyes to how great couple play could be. One of the brief details about it was they were super intentional up front. We were skeptical that they'd either be real. They were a newbie couple, where they really even show up and show up. They did and looking even better than their photo. And so they kind of wrecked us a little bit. And Leo is now like greedy, greedy little it. OK, I don't have to have all the best. Could I have a female involved as well along the lines of my mindset was so you're saying there might be a chance. And he's sending us pictures of this friends with benefits. Yeah, she must have been. She was ridiculously cute. Mid twenties, because he was 27. She was really cute and French. You know, that's probably worth a point of reference that when we're talking about going on the apps like field and the people that we're talking about, normally we don't talk about the ages, but for reference point, it might help people to know what the circumstances are. Dutch couple 29, 32. He was 29. So we were all good with my under 30 kink there. She was 32. It's a good thing I'm into older women. Edward is now 24. Mr. Too Good to Be True, 27. An architecture student, the architect, the architect, 22. 22. I'm not even sure why I said that. I don't either. What was it? There was some kind of segue. Oh, because the couple, he was trying to bring up friends with benefits. You don't understand. Leo had to really kind of dig down deep to allow this one to happen. And it so narrowly didn't happen. I just I credit him entirely for digging down deep and making this happen, because it was absolutely probably one of my best MFMs I've ever had. Yeah, well, I came feeling like I definitely owed you. So basically for the next two days, he was dangling this girl. We're going to all meet on our last night in Paris. I 100% assume that he was going to show up and say at the last minute, like this tired, well worn trope, oh, she actually couldn't make it after all, but I'm still available. Because we had multiple people, actually, we were reaching out to other couples and we would have couples just in the text chain that we didn't go very far with. Oh, yeah, my girl in the photo, she's got her period. She can't come. We actually had that happen. Triggeration that they pull. So Leo was kind of expecting it. And I'm like, but what if she doesn't show? Can we still do it? Because I really, really like it. Yeah, you were frustrated. But again, I didn't want to feel like somebody was tricking me. And sure enough, day of he texted us to tell us. Oh, bad news. Bad news. She's not feeling well. And my eyes just rolled up in my head. And that was early in the last day and we ignored him for hours until probably eight o'clock that night. Because my feeling is this, essentially, you're just a single guy. And I don't mind a single guy. We are one of those rare couples that hold space for single guys. But we want you to come to the table as a single guy. Just be as you are. Be transparent. Take me as I am. Here's what I have to offer. But if you think you're being clever by pretending that you've got some friends with benefits that you can come to sweeten the pot, just don't do that. And so the whole last day we ignored his telegram message. It's nearing eight o'clock and I'm like, oh, my God, it's our last night here. I don't think we're going to do anything. But I am the type of person that I like to oftentimes do the opposite of what people expect me to do. And I was very helpful that day because I never once spoke out loud how much I wanted it and how disappointed I was. I just was going to let it unfold. It was probably the right play. Organs. I felt like you were trying to pressure me. Put your foot down, line in the sand. I'm feeling a little stubborn about it. So I played it well. But to me, by doing the opposite of what people expect, life can get boring enough as it is. We all like to kind of settle into routine. I try to live by a motto of don't be boring. The easiest way to do that is to just reach out and tear the fabric of reality and step through most times things work out OK in the end. And you end up having a hell of an adventure. So he re-yard about eight o'clock at night or last night. You went out to the corner store to go pick up dinner. And while you were out, I decided to text both of them. And here I was a little bit bereft. I had left the phone on purpose hoping he would do that. But he couldn't voice what I thought because I knew he would kind of dig in the sand. You got M&M's in your mouth again. I do. Sorry. You like a chipmunk over there? They're all, they're all, they're all swallowed. It's OK. Then I think you got a text back right away and I was just beyond elated. And what he said was maybe I found another friends with benefits that could join us. And I just thought here we go again. But you know what? Because of that Dutch couple, they surprised us by being real, showing up, being intentional. We thought maybe it was a European thing. Maybe there's a chance. Let's see this to the end. So you have to prepare like you're getting ready, like it could go off with a force on. And so we made a plan to meet him and his friends with benefits. But the funny thing about it was he never met this friends with benefits. They had connected on field, but had never even met before. The long story short of it was he texted us to tell us she's going to be at the bar at nine o'clock. I'm going to be there 20 minutes later. And I thought, I'll believe it when I see it. So we head over by Uber and we're still wondering if this is even going to play out. And Leo has already told me, I got to like the guy. You know, we're still thinking that there's some subterfuge. Leo had a bit of a chip on his shoulder. Like I'm not going to like him. What if she doesn't show up? And you weren't sure how you were going to handle that. Or we got the idea that she might show up, but she might not play. And Kat's saying, am I still going to get my MFM? In the meantime, we're texting guy number two, the architect, telling him we're on our way to meet a friend. Are you up late? Maybe we'll see you later. We wanted to keep him on the line. At that point, I liked the architect better than I liked Mr. too good to be true, which by the way, the reason we call him Mr. too good to be true is he shouldn't have been as good as he was. I know what to tell you. If this guy was in America, his nickname would be the pussy slayer. He had everything that you can imagine. He was such a nice guy. And he was good looking. And I already knew from his photos, he was super fit. Leo was like, oh, my God, he's got like an eight pack. Well, you know, Hero finds that Amazon Prime Young Sherlock Holmes. Is that what it's called? It's called Sherlock Holmes, but really where I liked him was from after. He looked a lot like a French hero finds. He absolutely did. In fact, we told him so. And I think he was a little skeptical. And we said, I think you should show some of your friends. There is a little bit of a resemblance. And he actually said at the end, haha, maybe just a teeny little bit of a resemblance. So his girl did show up. They'd never met before. It was so awkward. They were on a blind date and we were on a blind date. And we talked to her for 20 minutes first, saying, do you think Mr. Too Good to Be True is actually real? Because none of us have met him. It was such an awkward, funny moment. Long story short of it is that she indicated she had to work the next day. So she wasn't going to be playing that night. And she said, but I think Mr. Too Good to Be True has all night for you guys. I think that she was also kind of doubling it as a meet and greet for him to size him up to see if he might make a decent friends with benefits. And she and I had already discussed, yeah, I think he makes a great friends with benefits. And she said to me, you're going to have a great night with him. He had this kind of shy energy. Shy works great if you're a really good looking guy. I think shy triggers most girls nurturing instinct if they're a good looking guy. Shy does not work great if you're needed to make it up on the market. But he wasn't so shy that he wouldn't talk. He actually had some pretty good talking game. So by the end of the night, we were like ready to get rid of her so we could just have a little menage à trois talk with him. Toward the end of it, the two of them are talking in French. Just we said, just talk in French with each other. And so Leo and I were having our little, what do you think? What do you think? And I'm like, I like him a lot. And he said, I really like him and I appreciate the lengths he went to. To bring a girl to this meeting. Yeah, I respected the hustle, the fact that he was breaking his neck to try to bring a friends with benefits and he did. And so Leo and I are having our little sidebar conversation. I said, well, what about Mr. Architect? And we said, we're going to go with what's in front of us. Mr. Too Good to Be True. And I felt bad because I really liked Mr. Architect's soft skills that he was exhibiting. We didn't know he was Mr. Too Good to Be True until he showed up in our apartment and all the gloves were off and the three of us were talking and he didn't have this extra blind date that made him feel a little awkward. That's when he became Mr. Too Good to Be True. So we got the check, we said our goodbyes and we told Mr. Too Good to Be True, let's go back to our place. We got in an Uber together and that's really when it got real. Our conversation turned more sexual and it just became very apparent. This is going to be a lot of fun. Yeah, it's hard to express his personality exactly. Sometimes when he talked to you, he would like look down, look away, almost like not totally confident, even though he had nothing to be unconfident about. We actually told him, you need to know your worth. You are probably one of the better guys we've ever had the pleasure of joining us for an MFM. And he just had a sweetness about him between the shyness and the sweetness. Oh, and his bedroom energy and bedroom prowess. He was fantastic. Like if you're a newbie couple and you are considering bringing in a single guy for an MFM, this would be your dream choice. He was so incredibly respectful. And he was so polite. But you're talking about that he had good bedroom energy. We've always said there's a fine line between being pushy and a pussy. And we don't like pussy in the bedroom unless it's pussy, because it feels like you're tiptoeing around. We'd like a little bit of that kind of manly energy. That's what I like. Yeah, as far as in the bedroom, he was probably the best bedroom energy that we've had to date. First of all, he was able to be hard the entire time, which is not always something easy. Yeah, that's a small little detail, but psychological ED, especially in the MFMs, the guys under the age of 30 is almost epidemic. And he's had experiences with MFM and he said, I'm straight, but I love watching a woman being devoured by two guys. Here's another way that I think could describe him in the bedroom. Why he's Mr. Two could be true. He would say these little things where he was acting like a cheerleader. I would be inside you. You'd be on all fours doing a spit roast. And he would say something like, oh, Leo, yes, do it like that. Leo, give it to her. And I'm like, I've got a cheerleader in the bedroom. I don't think I've ever had that before. He was a fucker. That's just what she wants. Yeah, it was really, really. But in the kindest, most respectful way without having too soft and energy in the bedroom. And Leo thought after the fact, should I have been cheering him on? He said, I'm not quite ready for that. I had to work my way up from braiding the hair. And he would look at me with such adoring eyes, which again, this harkened back to Edward. It felt like it was a European thing. They almost felt like I think he told me I was too good to be true because we told him you're too good to be true. And he felt the same way about us. In fact, he said something about us. That's right. I totally forgot about that. So at the end, Kat has one time on a previous occasion, had an MFM where he spoke Russian and you told him, speak Russian to me. I want to record it. And it's like an Easter egg because I'll get it translated. I don't know what they say. And so do you guys want to hear what he said? You play it and I'll read it. OK. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Did I hear Leo in there? I don't know. That was a short one. It was a really short one. Well, give it to me and I'll tell you what it says. OK, I'm so excited. I've been waiting a whole week for this guy. OK, big reveal. OK, OK, I'm so excited. Don't look at it. Don't spoil it. I'm so excited. It's not going to be nearly as romantic as you think it is. Yeah, but I have Mr. Architect and he spoke 30 seconds. Yeah, you're going to have to wait for Mr. Architect to get the aftercare with the high EQ. This one is a lot more cartel. It says, you like his dick, don't you? You like Leo's dick. You like mine. You like taking it in your mouth, in your... Wee, wee. Silver medalist. But it still sounds freaking sexy. I don't think that was the Easter egg you were expecting. No, because that actually surprises me. Because after the fact, we did text him. We said, hey, we're at the airport. We had a really great time. Maybe we'll see you again. Yeah, that went in a totally different direction, didn't it? That was like one of those chocolates that has like a core in sight when you bite down on it. I know that wasn't as good. He did text us after, so we got a little bit of aftercare that way as well. But he said, it was very fun meeting you guys. Enjoyed the before, the between, and the after. And in response to maybe we meet again sometime, he said yes again, definitely. I think that during it, he told us that you guys are everything that I could hope for or something to that effect. That was in us telling him that he's probably one of the best single guys that we've ever encountered in the lifestyle. And I just felt so thankful. He was handsome. He was kind, respectful, didn't have a shred of arrogance. And he had really great bedroom energy. Fantastic bedroom energy. He was a good lover. He stayed hard most of the time. And then he did aftercare after he came. He came unexpectedly. He was trying to edge himself. I think we did DP a couple of times. DVP. DVP. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's small detail. Yeah. And he did stay kind of laying around for a bit. Dreamer-esque, not for very long, but long enough that it didn't feel too abrupt. No, it was just the right amount. It felt like a French dreamer. And so what happened after that, you ask? It's 2 30 in the morning. We are absolutely burning the wicket both ends. But one of the things that we said leading up to it, when I had initially written them both that night, was that I made some throwaway comment to me to say, maybe we'll see both of them. And that was more thinking one starts at 10, one could start at one in the morning, but you threw it out in the ether. But as you know, when I throw something out in the ether, it has a funny way of turning into reality. I think Stuart Scott catches it and throws it back at us. Here we are in our E for days. I am horny. I was not ready to be done yet. I was so excited and tantalized. Literally the moment he left, the architect showed up in your phone. He said, I guess I lost my chance. Dot, dot, dot. You were being flirty back. I said, well, he just left. And he said, oh, it was that good. I wish I was there. I was telling you that at this stage, whenever you do a back to back, we've only done it a few times. We did back to back. Oh, yeah. That one was no good for you. But you had to give me magic mic. Generally speaking, they're not very good. I don't like to back to back because one NRE invariably, no matter even if you don't want it to overwrite, tries to overwrite the other NRE. And I will TLDR. It did overwrite it. I have an easier time remembering everything about the architect than I do too good to be true. Yeah, the brain suddenly reaches out for the next monkey brand. But I was so not ready to be done. And honestly, too good to be true. I know he would have stayed another hour at least, but it just felt so good. He came too quickly. And that is that. Fast forward, we told him, how fast can you be over here? If you come right now, and he said, I can be there in 15 minutes. 15 minutes later, we go downstairs to let him in. I think it's 3.15 in the morning. And this had the chance to go terribly, terribly wrong. I mean, how tawdry is that? We're over there. We have a plane to catch the next day. We had to leave at 6.45 in the morning. And we just decided we're not going to sleep. We're not going to sleep. I was still in such NRE. I was horny and I was hot. And I really liked Parisian architecture. You figure you don't get to Europe that often. You can sleep when you're dead. And they were my two favorites. I wasn't lurching. They'd been in my phone for seven to 10 days. And when he showed up, you thought, when you saw him through the lobby, you weren't sure about him. I thought, oh, God, is this one of those moments where I'm going to have to say, no, this isn't going to work? He was a pretty cute guy. He was a really cute guy. And then he opened his mouth. And he had a personality for days. He had the soft skills to rule them all. And I knew that because we had sexted quite a bit. And I really enjoyed the sexting. He had actually said, I just want to be transparent. I haven't had sex for a time. So I don't know how long I'm going to last. See, that kind of energy. We don't mind it in the bedroom because... Own it, right? It's not the destination. It's the journey. Although you do like a hard dick. I do like a hard dick. And sometimes I struggle to find hard dicks. And Too Good to Be True came through in spades in that department. You're talking about Mr. Too Good to Be True. Mr. Too Good to Be True. Because if you say Too Good to Be True, and I'm only half listening... You're thinking of Tatiana? Oh! Oh! You know what? That's actually interesting you said that. It's Alpropos, isn't it? We did say that about her. She should be Miss Too Good to Be True. And she is. She continues to be in our sphere sexting, texting. We haven't played second time yet. She's ridiculous. She's ridiculous. She tied a guy to a tree and... And he was scared of her. Am I the only guy that dreams about a Russian girl tying me to the tree? Is that buggerless for you now? Oh, damn! And my buggerless is I really want to have a threesome in a bathroom stall. She can leave me out in the woods naked, and defend for myself. Oh, that's so hot! I will just chalk that up to the price of doing business. Oh, I love it. Back to Mr. Architect. Mr. Architect, because he was an architect student. How about Monsure Architect? Monsure. Oh, he had such a hot French accent. He was a really, really nice guy as well. And it just leads you to believe that there's no way we could have gone on a stretch run like this. Beginner's luck? No way. No way. And you know, we're sitting there on the couch, and he and I are sexting from the Uber in the lead-up. And now he's just sitting there having a drink, which is funny. All we had was apple cider, fermented apple cider. I think you saved the cork for our Memento box. Actually, he and I traded Mementos. Oh, why don't you tell him what it was, Kat? Well, OK. At first, he was wearing this French characteristic shirt like he was a sailor, you know, with the black and white horizontal stripes. And he said something about a souvenir. And I said, I need a souvenir. He said, well, I'd give you my shirt. But I knew I would have to give my shirt. And I don't know. And you should have. I should have. I would have loved it. So he had his hair was a little longer, not super long. And so he liked to put it back in this metal headband to keep it out of his eyes. So I kept the metal headband. And he kept your underwear. And he kept my panties and you put them in his backpack. You actually, as you were watching from the second story window and he was fading into the lamp light, whether he would throw the underwear away. And I told you, you don't know guys very well because a pair of panties is like a conquest. You're going to show somebody at some point. Oh, yeah, that belonged to somebody that I was sleeping with. And it was so hot. We started again with no card games or anything. And we just started Leo leaves the room for a minute. I just start kissing and we are just kissing and touching. He's like, I don't really know what it is I can do or not do. I said, you could do anything. And that was really on. Once we do the podcast idea that we're thinking about doing, we're going to have all of these podcasts, all the memorabilia video format. You're going to see the podcast set and it's going to look like a lost and found people are going to look at point and say, wait a minute, that's my pair under things. And at the end, when we traded, I told him, we love Europe so much. We'll probably be back in October. And he said, then let's trade back at that time. That was incredible. That was like in baseball. That was back to back home runs. Maybe back to back. Well, you can't have back to back grand slams, but it was. Yeah, we got there. Amazing. At 315 in the morning, he stayed until probably six in the morning, laying in bed. We had another dreamers moment. The sun was coming up. I felt like your swing or guardian angel going forward with the back to back. Not one, but two. And in the moment when we were deciding on the second, I'm like, I kept texting him, I'm tempted. He said, oh, don't tell me that I want to come so bad. And I'm like, Leo, what do you think? I'm kind of horny. I gave you the choice, but I did say it with a caveat. That you will overwrite some of the NRE from the first one as long as you're OK with that. And the other caveat was if he's not as good, you may overwrite the NRE. I may get negative NRE. With a mid experience. So we really were kind of on a razor's edge. It was just as amazing an experience. He didn't have quite the sexual prowess. He had kind of 22 year old puppy dog energy, kind of excited to be here. But his aftercare, his bedroom energy, his EQ soft skills were so next level. I was about to tell you who cares about that. Let's go ahead and go to the translation Easter egg that you got. Because he recorded a message for you and he recorded a long one. Let me say how it happened. We're laying in bed. We're literally laying in bed for probably 45 minutes. It went on so long. I looked at Leo like, are you OK with this? Because I was in absolute seventh heaven. I don't know if you need to go because based on the previous guy, you know, you have to follow their subtle cues. You don't want to make them feel like they have to stay. Right. They're saying things like, yeah, I'm going to probably get something to eat. Yeah. I'm a little tired. I got an early morning tomorrow. You don't want to try to force them to stay longer than they are. This guy would have been amazing to go walk the town of Paris with. Oh, no question. He had such a great energy, the friendly energy. And yet he and I were kissing still and touching and it was just soupy. So I asked him, do you mind recording a little audio memo in French for me? So he did one and he said, hold on, hold on. I'm going to make it longer. Let me hold the phone and we recorded a second one. So let's go to the tape. Absolutely. When I speak French, it's so sexy. It's so beautiful when I put it on. It's so beautiful. All the two. I'm addicted to it. It's so beautiful. I look at the little big ones. It's perfect. I can't be watching the whole evening. It's so beautiful. I was so full of myself. It was so perfect. Are you smiling over there while you're playing that? I see you with your shitty grin on. He is my gold medalist, motherf***er. Hand that thing to me. Let's go ahead. He talked for a full 30 seconds and he had soft skills to end all soft skills. Imagine we're laying in the glow of red light. We're all naked. He's touching caressing and he's just recording. He's actually holding my phone recording something to me. And at the end, at the end of it, we kiss and I actually have the kiss in audio. We'll play the kiss. OK. Here's the very end. I've been listening for a long time. I love it. You're exchanging spit. I sure hope that my boys back home don't ever, ever hear this. OK, tell me what he said. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I hope this was really good, guys. I'm so excited. All right. I've been waiting a week for this. Drum roll, please. For the architect, Montsoir. I love it so much when you speak French. It's so sexy. You're so beautiful when you moan. It's incredible. You two are both so beautiful. I'm addicted, honestly. It's so beautiful. When you look at me with those little eyes of yours, it's perfect, honestly. I could watch you all night long. You're so gorgeous. I filled you up so much. It was so perfect. It was so nice. I wish we could have kept going all night. It was perfect. Maybe we should have gone harder and longer. But oh, well, I loved it. That was really good. Did I mention that the European guys, single guys under the age of 30 in Europe, they should be doing classes for the guy's stateside here because they are running circles around it. That is 22-year-old aftercare. And then we texted him as well on Telegram and he never read it. It was left on red until this morning. And he said, sorry for the little delay. My pleasure. It was perfect. Thank you so much. And then he asked a question. Did you get home well? I'm smitten. I'm smitten. I want to see him again. Oh, my gosh. I'm telling you right now. You is great. I feel like the lifestyle should be this easy. For a long time, the last nine months, I have lost my faith in single guys under 30. They just don't treat me well. They really don't. And it makes me have these quiet moments where I'll say to myself, I fucking hate single guys. You have like secondhand cringe all the time. But I don't hate single guys. Right. You want a good one. It's just a very narrow scope that we're talking about here. The ones we're playing with. And they have renewed my faith in the MFMs for you. Turns out we're going to have to get back on a plane. We have to go back to Europe. So forget bliss. We're going to be going twice a year to Europe. We're going to record our next episode or maybe a couple of episodes from now, why we've been on our last bliss. Right. So we need to start planning our next European vacation. And so when he left at six in the morning, we had to get out of the house by 645. We're going to the airport. We are on zero sleep. We are on 100% adrenaline. We're still recovering. And of course, we ended up going to the wrong terminal. We almost missed our flight. I was having a total almost like a panic attack. And was it worth it? Oh, my God. It was so worth it. I would do it like a million times over. Oh, we're going to do it again. We're going to run it back. And I think we have a pretty damn good chance of seeing, if not one, both of them again. Yeah. And if you don't, you think I'll just find better. It doesn't matter because it's like shooting fish in a barrel. It is that easy. And I'm telling you, if you're listening, if you're struggling out there, book your trip to Paris, maybe book it in October. Maybe we'll see you guys there. So if Edward was the bronze medalist, who's the gold? Probably architect. I don't know. It's a tie in a way because architect had more soft skills and more dreamer like qualities where you could have seen us walking through Paris in the shadow of the Eiffel Tower, watching it light up. Unlike Edward, who's a little more wooden, he would have been like arm in arm with me because he has those soft skills of kind of love and lust and passion and it just exudes from his pores. Yeah. He was a smooth criminal. But Mr. Tugue, to be true, is probably the gold medalist. He shined in the bedroom. And you know, at the end of the day, we love, love, love the deeper connection, the spaces between. But you could use a little bit of hot, sexy, carnal bedroom energy. Yeah. So much so that we did DVP multiple times. He'd be like, let's try that again. And you know, to do DVP, you've got to have two really, really hard cocks. The only thing I'm disappointed in is that we didn't do the Eiffel Tower. We even talked with architect afterwards. And I said, you know, I always thought the Eiffel Tower was some kind of thing where we lift the girl up off the ground. I'm in one hole. You're in the other. No, it's just a spit rose. And you high five. And we did multiple spit rose, but you guys never high five. So, you know, bucketless goals. Let's go back to Europe in October. Oh, I just wet thinking about it. Back to back French guys with aftercare, manacore material. Please take me back to Paris. The boyfriend experience. Yes. Wee-wee. And I think you even got to use. Voulez vous coucher avec moi, ce soir? That's what he was talking about. You sound so sexy. I had just said it to him. Ah, it was such a good trip, guys. I am in seventh heaven. I'm on cloud nine, ten and eleven. No notes. I do my head. When they baby, how you feel? So if you liked what you heard, go ahead and either subscribe or I didn't know how that works. I don't know. Just come and listen. Yeah, you might post once a week. 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