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It's Chicks in the Office with Breanne Friend giving you that Friday energy on a Friday. Happy Friday everybody. We have an amazing interview with Steven Clutty today that we cannot wait to get into. But first, this podcast is presented by Microsoft 365 Co-Pilot. Before we get into today's episode, we need to talk about the thing that is keeping everyone's lives organized right now, and that is Microsoft 365 Co-Pilot. That's right because the world moves faster, workday moves even faster from pitching products to drafting reports, analyzing data. Microsoft 365 has you covered across all your programs, your AI assistant for work, built into Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and other Microsoft 365 apps that you use helping you quickly write, create, analyze, summarize, whatever you need to do to really clear the path to your best work. You can cut through all that clutter. You can finish the week strong. Maybe you have a lot on your to-do list to end the week before we go into the weekend. 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The cherry blossoms are blooming. Then you get slapped with a freeze warning. Those bad boys are shriveling up because it's below 32 degrees. We are right around the corner to warm weather. No, Saturday is going to be gorgeous. I'm very excited. It's going to be amazing. I have big plans to walk around everywhere. Just be outside. Just be outside. Walk in everywhere. You're right. We're going to be outside and we're going to be enjoying all that Friday energy presented by Acorns today. We love Acorns and we are going to be, perhaps we stop in a coffee shop. Because we have Acorns, we can round up and we can be investing and doing all those good things while we're out and about. Walking and investing at the same time. And investing in this. Innovative. And in the sunshine. Because finally we're going to get like 65 and sunny. The ideal temp. The ideal. That was like last weekend when we were in Brooklyn on Saturday. And I looked up at the trees and it was just cold branches. I said, no. I know. We're past this time. I know, but then I thought that was the buds. On one block there's cherry blossoms. On the other just cold branches with nothing on them. I said, uh-uh. We need spring to be sprung. We need blooming in the air. We need it all. We're almost there. It's going to be so nice. I have one of my best friends bridal showers on Saturday in Philly and Joe is laughing at me because just the way, I just know how a day like this goes. A beautiful Saturday afternoon. Starts at noon. Beautiful family. We're in Philly. It's going to be a gorgeous day. My friends, we haven't been together in a while. And I was like, are you going to be home? Because I don't know what, I don't know how my day is going to go. I could be gone all day. Like I said, I said, I don't have my, I've been waiting to book my return train because who knows what time that train could be. The world's your oyster. It is. And when that, when that happens, the perfect storm. You guys know. You get good weather. It's one of the first sunny days of the spring. You and all your girlfriends are together and you're celebrating something. You're celebrating your friend that's getting married and you're, and you're drinking mimosas and having a great afternoon. Oh, that's a nighter. I said, oh, Joe, you better be home because I might be coming home Sunday morning. Yeah, that is an all nighter. That sounds like a great Saturday. It's going to be fun. The return to Philly. Yeah. Saturday, I have plans with my girlfriend Fiona, who is very pregnant at the moment. She is about a month out from her due date, you know, towards the end of April, she'll be a month out. Yeah. And my goodness gracious, she sent me, and she won't mind that we're talking about this. She sent me pictures and videos of her feet and ankles the other night. Oh no. And my poor baby girl. I mean, wow. Wow. I literally wrote back. I said, Fiona, don't mind me. I have to send back the that's a Raven picture when Raven has the allergic reaction to mushrooms because holy shit, I feel so bad for her. And I'm like, can you even do some activity for you to do? Well, we're going to just get like an ice brunch, you know. Yeah, sit. Sit. Yeah, sitting. I tried to make, I was like, if we can get a lymphatic drainage situation where we can get them to come to you and just rub those bad boys out. Couldn't happen on Saturday, which was disappointing because I was like, we need to do something here. I felt so good. The idea for a gift though. Honestly, we, Leah and I did gift her like a prenatal massage before her baby shower, which she did, but she didn't know if she could do lymphatic, which you can apparently. Because then I was going to be my next question. Because then I was researching it for her because I was like, wait, I think you can. And apparently. Look on your legs. Yeah. I think apparently you can for your legs and your feet and everything. So we were trying to get back going and I felt, I just feel so bad for her. And I'm like, what did the doctor say? She's like, the doctor gave me, you know, the pity like, oh, poor you. But like it happens to everybody sort of thing. And I was like, oh, that is some, that is some bullshit. So yeah, we're just, we have plans to just sit and eat is basically the plan. You just really never know. And you never, and you can't predict which way, which way your pregnancy is going to go. No, you know, because it's, it's just different for everybody. Different for everyone. I think it every time I see Madeline White and I'm like, oh my God, she jokes about it too. She's like, you wouldn't even, she's on Tik Tok being like, you wouldn't even like know that I'm six months pregnant right now or never even probably even more than that. But as she's gearing up to go to Coachella. Yeah. Oh my God. That's breaking news. We're not going to Coachella this speaking. We're not going to be at Coachella this week. First weekend. Yeah. I'm excited to see what the Bebes is going to do. So am I. I'm also excited to see what the Bebes is going to do. The rumor on the street is it's really just going to be swag one and swag two. And I've seen a lot of fan discourse online. I, I, um, girl, boss town has gotten in the mix. I've been seeing her videos because she was at one of the, the private shows and she made a video that was like, guys, let's just be fucking grateful that he is on stage singing and performing to us. You know, so let's not be nitpicking and crying that maybe he's not going to play some of his old stuff. That's just, just appreciate that we're getting him, but she was going back and forth with people in the comments and it's very fair. There's just some people being like, no, that's so true. I get that. But like, I do wish that some of the, you know, he would maybe play one or two of those old ones. If he's not like to not play any of his hits is not nitpicking. Like I don't know. I think what she means is Coachella tickets are expensive. They are. That is true. But I think what she means is that like Justin Bieber does not perform often. Yeah. And this is really sort of shocking that he's even doing Coachella. Yeah. So I think that it's like, all right, let's just be grateful for what he's giving us and he's singing and he's performing and we're going to take that for what it is. Yeah. Do I understand people's want for him to throw a couple old bangers on there? Absolutely. You'll be lying to everybody if you're like, no, I don't care if he doesn't play. Yes, you do. You want him to play some old bangers because you're going to be the first to pop up on your Instagram story and be like, oh my God, Justin Bieber played baby. Yeah. But do I, but is it also okay that he doesn't? Yes, because he is in this new stage of life where I think that there's a lot that has happened with his old music that he does not own. And so for him, he might not even want to play any of the music. He sold his old catalog. He sold his old catalog. He only sells his swag and swag too. So he's probably like, I don't even want to play the music that I don't own and I would understand that coming from him. So it's like, it's a huge... I feel like it was like we talked about recently with John, I think with John May or someone, but it's like, that's fine. But I almost feel like he should just say it, like openly just say like, I am only playing my new albums instead of like all this speculation or people might be upset expecting this. Yeah. Well, I feel like it's been pretty clear that it's going to be a predominantly swag one and swag two. And it's also the private shows he hasn't done any old. Yes. He hasn't performed any old songs at the shows that he's done. So I think everyone should be in the setting to do it. Yeah. He should be under the assumption that he's only doing those and don't go into it with other expectations. Go into it of like, I'm going to enjoy swad one and swagger. Yeah. And he is so talented. But dare I say, like it's got to be probably very fucking hard for him to sing some of those old songs. Yeah. He was prepubescent. Yeah. Like his voice was so high. It's in a range. It's you kind of have to rearrange a lot of it. Yeah. I think like it says a lot that he's coming back and doing Coachella. I think maybe with a lot of the old stuff, it's like disassociate. I don't, I don't really know if he's like dying to play that stuff. And it's his Coachella set. He just came out with swag and swag to that has like a bajillion songs. So it's like he's got plenty of material to work with to build a pretty long Coachella set. Yeah. Does the Bieber fever in me say like my, like, do I want him to get up there and do a little beauty in the beat? Yeah. I'm picturing like Ed Sheeran comes out. They do love yourself together. Couple of purpose songs would rock, but that was also the tour that he stopped. Yeah. Because he was going through a lot. So he might not be like, he might be like, I don't want to play any of those songs. I know. I exactly. So there are rumors that he is filming a documentary of some sort like Beyonce did with Coachella. And there's rumors that he's filming and he's going to release something right away, which would be sick because that is one of the best things to exist is Beyonce's Coachella set. Yeah. Documentary and performance is so fucking good and being able to watch it while not being there. Amazing. So if Bieber does that, I think it'll be fantastic, but I'm excited to see. Listen, every year I don't want any part of going, but I'm excited to see everybody else that is like their outfits and everything. Like I have to be completely honest. Like a three day music festival seems like my sort of nightmare. Like I'm actually opposite, but yeah. Yeah. No. And hey, to each their own. Exactly. And I don't really, I never have like a dying desire. I'm not like, oh my God, I need to be there up until I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm not like, oh my God, I need to be there up until up until like today when everyone's posting about leaving and packing and the outfits and all this. And then that's when I get a little bit of foam. I'm like, oh, see, like that's fun. But it's fun when you have a big group, you have a house, you all your friends together, it's like it is a really fun thing. But yeah, you have to be dedicated to the to the game because it's not for it's not for the it's not for the faint of heart. If you go with people that are like, we want to be at the festival all three days. If you're with a group where it's a little more chill, sure. But it's like then then things can get contentious because it's like some people want to be there for the whole day. They want there's certain people they don't want to miss. And then there's you were with some people that are like, I could skip all of Saturday for all I could. I would need a nap at some point. I feel like this is not. No, it is not a nap. No, no, there's no naps. Coachella, right, right. Which listen, don't judge a girl for wanting to take a nap, you know. So I just feel like I'm aware that this wouldn't be. Yeah, my scene. Weekend one is like the influencer weekend, right? Like this is where like all the. Yeah, everyone's got the brands going. You see people in the comments are like, this is why we go weekend to. I'm happy to festival. I'm happy to watch from afar, though. Like I'm happy to see what people are posting and I love watching outfits. Yeah, watching the performances online. Like I'm all about it from the comfort of my bed. Like this. Yeah, I'm like snuggle up. No, scrolling. I remember like years ago when Frank Ocean was there and I was like watching the stream and I was mad in my like bed being like, how is he taking three, four hours? Like what is going on? I'm like, I can't imagine if I was like, yeah, I went to LA, went to Palm Springs. Yeah, people are dedicated and shout out to them. Like I feel he would love Coachella. I I would love the music aspect of it, but I just think like it's chaos. Like I don't know. It does seem like very commercialized now where it's like it is, but it's also not. Like it's never been so I don't know. It's massive. So it's like if you're not, if you're just going to have fun with you and your friends and you're not like dealing with all the VIP influencer side shit that we all see. Yeah, it's fun. Like you don't need to do all that stuff to go and enjoy yourself. Most majority of people are just going general admission to Coachella. We're just seeing all I went in 2016. Yeah, we're just seeing online the artist passes and all that. We only see like because that's the content we're served. We're served like every influencer that's there and like the parties and the events and the activations and like all that that's happened. It's all happening at Coachella. It's a it's a choose your own adventure. However you want the weekend to go, you can make it work. We only get to see the the very showy side of it. And yeah, the first weekend is when all the the brands and such are all there. There's also been an interesting thing I've seen with people being like disinvited. Have you seen that? I did see that. Yeah. Like there's events that like they're originally invited to and then they're getting influencers are getting emails like, Hey, sorry, we're actually like acopacity now and you're not invited. Yes. Popular influencers. Yeah. Disinvited. Crazy. Crazy. That's a humbling experience. Right. I think if you're the brand though, you just have to like eat it. And send them anyway. You can't like rescind why are they disinvited invite like capacity. Like they over invited. They over invited. Yeah. It's it's really the whole interworkings of it is interesting because I do think that there are like a lot of brands that just do these big activations and it's not necessarily like paid deals. It's just like, Hey, we'll pay for you to fly to stay and we'll pay for your ticket and then like, hope for the, you'll come to the event and share what you want and people are inclined to share because they're, they're there on this brand's like behalf. But having like doing that, I think people send them all out and then maybe it's like they don't expect everyone to commit to it. And then I guess if they like over invite people, they have to disinvite people or who knows, maybe for other reasons, it's like, Hey, I mean, if they're disinviting, they thought that they could handle 50 people and then they looked at the budget and thought, Holy shit, we got to, we got to cut 15 of these people. They thought like the super big names wouldn't say yes. And they did. So you got to cut like, yeah. They're like, I mean, Hey, I get that. Yeah. Listen, you're not wrong. I bet that is actually so true that some of these brands are like, Holy shit, this person went like 10 million followers says they'll come. So we're going to have to cut the person that doesn't have that. It's just a fucking game. It is ruthless because I feel like if you're the brand and you extend an invite, you got to make it happen. You should absolutely. And what's crazy now is like the influencers are now posting like, I've been disinvited by this brand. So then the brand's trying to do damage control. And I've seen in comments being like, check your DMs, like, we'll make this right. It's like, well, you can't make it right for everybody because then you're back in the exact same problem you were before. We'll send you a little package. Yeah. Wish you were here. Yeah. Right. Exactly. So well, I can't wait to see what comes from the first week of Cotelo. There's always fun stories, fun celebrity sightings and can't wait to watch the performances. Totally. There's always a couple that like makes their debut. They're kind of holding hands or kissing or something. There's always one couple, like an X, two X's that make out like Shawn Mendes and Camila Cabello and then they're never to be seen again together. So Coachella. I could see Bieber bringing up Billie Eilish on stage. I'm locking in that prediction. I hope he brings somebody. I feel like he's got to bring up someone now. I love to count the amount of times Noah has said on this podcast. I mean, they got to bring up somebody. But Coachella headline, like, I mean, I guess he doesn't cause he's the headliner, but I just feel like Coachella is the place. A lot of times they do. A lot of times the headliner does. Was it a Libya for Rodrigo who did it last year? She brought out like crazy people like every, I don't know if that was Coachella. Some festival, she brought out people like every single. I mean, you know what Coachella everybody does, right? Yeah, I mean. Is that when Beyonce brought out Dustin Childe and Jamesy? That was the first time Harry brought out when Harry brought out Shania Twain, right? Yes. Oh, yeah. And then I forget who he brought out the second weekend. It was someone else. Yeah. We'll see. We should. But I think that's a fair bet that there will be somebody. Billie Eilish or Ed Sheeran, one of those is going to come out one of these weekends. Watch. They're both good ones. I just don't know. I I I could see them. I could see him doing Billy and they sing a Billy song. We could. Well, they could do the bad guy. Rematch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Or just like a cover of a different song. Yeah. I wouldn't mind that. For me. We don't know how strict Justin is when not playing the old stuff. Maybe he's like, no Ed Sheeran. Yeah, that's true. We shall see. I'm very excited. All right, let's get into the rest of today's episode. We have an amazing interview with Stephen Coletti talking all things Laguna Beach, Traders, Wontory Hill, we're talking about it all and a great game of trivia. So let's get into it. Like we said with acorns, you can invest really doing anything while you're getting a cup of coffee, while you're just walking around and whatever you're up to this weekend. Acorns makes it easy. 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All right, everyone, we are here with a very special guest. We are joined by Steven Kalletti. We're going to be talking about 20 year anniversary of Laguna Beach. We got the traders to talk about one tree. We're going to talk about it all because this is our first time in person. You've done the podcast over Zoom a while back. So we're super excited to have you here in studio. So thanks for joining us. Great to be here. Appreciate you guys having me. It's nice getting to talk to people in real life and not over Zoom all the time. You kind of forget what that was. What that was like when we have had so many amazing guests that were like, wait a second, we did talk to them. It was just on Zoom and you've never met them. It's better in person, isn't it? It always is. That was the thing with the podcast where Chris and I, we had, and we done Laguna podcast and like the one thing that was missing was like, like we did an episode with Lauren and that, of course, was great. We were in person for that. And a lot of the other folks was like, the one thing we need to do, like we need to get everyone together and talk about this. And there's just a different energy that way. So. Exactly. You're worried about like, oh, it's lagging. Oh wait, can you repeat that? And then you kind of lose the magic. But you guys always brought good energy though. I feel like when we were doing your podcast, it was. We are so excited to talk to you about everything. I mean, we loved watching you on Traders. Yeah. Are you still thinking about Traders every day or is it kind of left the brain a little bit? You know what? It's funny you say that because the dreams, like I was right back in it. Once the show started airing, the dreams were hitting me like I was back in the show and I wake up and be like, damn it. Like, why didn't I just talk to Johnny and like just like, you know, compare notes and maybe we would have gotten there a little faster. And so you see it that that way, especially with the edit coming out and then all the stuff we didn't know was happening, you know, all the fun that the traders are having. So yeah, my my dreams were inundated with all sorts of thoughts of being in the show. But now it's yeah, it's released. We've shifted gears here where we're definitely we've settled back into normal life in Orange County and well, kind of normal. We're promoting a Laguna Beach reunion. That's right. There's nothing normal about that. So yeah, it's it's thankfully that's that settled in and it's moved into a nice place of like, ah, that was a fun little side quest. It's one of those things that, you know, when you like you go into the shower and you have like fake fights. I've never done a percent. That's what it must be like when you're leaving traders and you're like, Johnny, I know I know all the answers, right? Because you're like you're undefeated in the shower. Like I got this. Of course. I'm my own biggest fan there. Yeah, exactly. Critics. Yeah. What was your biggest like WTF moment watching it back that you didn't realize was happening? So you know what's this is kind of a weird little one. But when the Kongaline that which I was so impressed by Rob C. Not to be confused with Rob R. Yeah. In the way that he called out the Kongaline, you know, and it was like, and he was telling Tiffany like, hi, Kongaline, like that to me. See that moment was so great. But being in the kitchen with however many traders, I was usually just sitting around with them having no idea. And Rob was in there. Or sorry. Yeah, Rob R. Was with me in there. And then we pop out to the Kongaline and he gets on my back for like two seconds and he's like, screw this, which at the time was like very Rob. So I was like, OK, that's that's not weird. But he immediately runs back into the kitchen, opens up that picture frame and pulls out. And so seeing that, I'm like, God damn, I had no idea that that was happening right there, right under my nose. So seeing that moment and really just also some of the strategy that I was kind of working on of like, all right, be, be, you know, play to your strengths in the missions, be vocal there to actually see them in the turret talking about like, he's kind of good at missions. I was like, oh, man, I was OK at this game, you know, like. So, yeah, it was fun to see that and to really see actually how much fun the traders are having because they actually know what's going on. They're not looking stupid. Right. We were we were definitely bummed to see you go, but you lasted a long time. And, you know, right at the beginning, seeing your name. And I know you talked about this a little bit, but it was like One Tree Hill, which excited us because we were a huge fan of you on One Tree Hill. Did you get a lot of feedback from people being like, that should say Laguna Beach, not One Tree Hill? Yeah, you know what? After everything on the show and just little moments of talking with people, I was like, I wonder what's going to be something I might get a little blowback from and it wasn't I wasn't too worried, but then all of a sudden, the first episode comes out and I'm kind of like, hey, this is like, I'm getting off easy. Like I'm helping Donna Kelsey down the stairs. They showed that. I was like, you're all true gentlemen. I'm like, they they're like, I'm like talking about my mom. I'm like, wow, they're really like giving me the nice guy at it. Like, OK, I'll take it. And then it just says One Tree Hill and the Internet's like, why? Like, what is wrong with this guy? And I was like, you know, my wife was showing me all these little comments on it. And I'm like, I can't believe that people are reacting this way to it. So, yeah, I got I got some I got some heat for that. Yeah, it makes sense, though, because I feel like it is a good topic of conversation, though, to go with so that people are talking about it. Even if you are getting heat, it's like, all right, well, they're talking about me. And we're we're making discussion here. Yeah. Going into, you know, Laguna Beach 20 years. It is really insane to think about the fact that you guys were in high school filming the show. Seventeen year olds. No, yeah, this is not OK. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like when you look back on this, you're like, there's like laws to stop. Right. We reality TV about people in high school who seemed so much older at the time. Right. Oh, man. I don't know what it is. I think it's something with our age range of watching where I could still put on an episode. Like I'm 31 years old. I could still put on an episode of Laguna Beach and be like, they're older than me right now in this moment. Totally agree. Like you guys just seem so mature for your age. And maybe it's where you grew up. That is hilarious. Appreciate you saying that. Yeah, I would definitely watching it back there. I don't see maturity. I think that maybe I'm confusing the two words with mature. Maybe it was definitely immaturity, but like. Yeah, but so different. Maybe it speaks to the time, you know, and I think that you're saying if you're 31 now, you're growing up fully in social media and with cell phones and living a lot more through text messages. So maybe there was something about because we're, you know, older millennials and we didn't quite have the phones like, I mean, of course we had our cell phones when we were inundated by them yet. So maybe there's something there where we are actually kind of engaging in conversation more and not like, you know, you see shows now that's like people are like peeking on their phones or checking out. So maybe there's something to that and to that time. I think it was an East Coast, West Coast thing too, though, because like I grew up in New Jersey, New York, Long Island. So I think like we, there was like the lore of the California kid was fascinating because I had never been there. I never really met anybody from California. So I was like, oh my God, they can just go to the beach and just go to Kabul and spring break. They go to Kabul and spring break with no parents. There's no, there's no chaperone. Extremely intimidating, right? Like running into a California kid was always like, ooh, this is scary. At that point in time, I never met a single person. Also in some of the episodes, like, you know, you guys are like making dent, like the girls were like, we're going to cook dinner for them. You're just like, hey, like we were not doing that in high school. Like, oh, my boyfriend's going to come over and I'm going to cook dinner for him. Yeah. I can't say that happened actually too often. Outside of that, the show was like, all right, let's, let's get Jessica and Chris and it makes a pasta for Dieter and Steven. So there's, there's some moments there. And that was one thing that we thought even going into the show was like, all right, first of all, like the fact that they're actually going to shoot us and they're doing this and they're going to make a few episodes is ridiculous. But we're going to get some free dinners out of this. We're going to get like, you know, maybe we're getting a boat out to Catalina. So we thought we were almost ripping them off. Right. We're going to get these cool activities to do and like find a way to sneak alcohol into because that's what you did that age. And we'll be laughing at the end of it. Boy, were we wrong. Didn't quite have that figured out. There was the lacking of the maturity in those moments of like not thinking past the next 24 hours. Yeah, exactly. Like landscape. I'm robbing these guys blind. Meanwhile, they're like, you, we're taking advantage of you all. Yeah, fully exploited. You're fully exploited for everything that's going on, but it's so crazy. It's been 20 years and you got everybody to participate in, in this reunion. Where did the idea to film a reunion come from? Like, did it start from one of you guys or was, were you guys approached to do it? Yeah, no, actually it was, it really came from the podcast with Kristen and I. And it felt like that was the natural progression of what we wanted to, we were going to finish the podcast with a big episode with everybody. It just didn't work out that way. And so we're like, all right, let's, let's, let's consider something. And we just kind of kept talking about it. Liz Gately, actually the original creator of the show, she approached us later and was like, Hey, what do you guys think about maybe doing like a reunion? And we were like, that's so funny. We've been talking about this. Let's, let's all right, let's see what this will look like and see if we can find the partner and yeah, then once we were able to take it to Roku and, and, and they were big fans of the show. They jumped for, you know, right in and we were like, all right, sweet. They get what we want to do here. And yeah, it really worked for me. It was nice that everyone really jumped in from the, from the beginning. Lauren was like, all right, what's the why? Why are we doing this? Let's talk about this a little bit more. She took a little bit more convincing, of course. But again, coming off the heels of the podcast, that was a positive experience for us. We all realized that we're kind of having this, this inner dialogue of like, where does the show fit in my life? Like what, how do I like metabolize that those years, especially as we continue to get older and you're, you know, people are getting kids and it's like, am I going to watch the show with them and whatnot? And when we came together and can talk about it, realize that that was, it left it in a really good place and, and, and felt like, okay, you know what, it's not so bad after all. Like we, we, we all kind of felt the same thing at that time and everyone's doing okay. So this should be a reflection of like a positive thing that we've come so far from, from where it was back in the day. And I think people understood that and that's where we were going to go and we were going to be in control that they were on board. Right. So having that kind of rollercoaster of emotions and attachment to the show where it's like, all right, we're leaving the show, you feel some type of way about it, but then it comes back around this many years later. And the fan reaction has been insane. I mean, we're all so, so excited for those that don't know, and maybe you guys touch on it during the reunion. Can you kind of take us through how you even got on the goonabeech? Yeah. So there were rumors about it for like a year and it was, it was something that was pinging around. I think after the OC had aired, they talked about doing like a OC type reality show where actually it wasn't called a reality show. It was a, it was a documentary about kids in high school. MTV wanted to do a documentary, right? It's going to be a very education for the folks out there. And so, yeah, then all of a sudden they actually showed up one day on campus, just out of nowhere. And we didn't know that it was coming next week or anything like that. It was like, what's going on over here? It's like, oh, that's MTV. They're handing out packets to people to learn about their lives and see who they're going to shoot for their documentary. And that was at break and lunch. And yeah, from there, actually that weekend was the Super Bowl with the wardrobe malfunction with Justin Timberlake and Janet Jackson. So then PTA, the parents group, if you will, they were like, get them out of here. We don't want MTV because MTV is doing what I think Apple, MTV was doing what Apple is doing today, which is running the half time show for the NFL. If I have that right. But so MTV's, it was their responsibility when that all went down. They had met everyone and they're just like, all right, we'll just keep it off a campus. So they were originally supposed to shoot on campus and then they didn't. So, yeah, they just started talking to everyone. We bring us in for some interviews. And I remember, and it was actually, this was still on campus at that moment, sitting in a classroom. I think it was my old computer graphics class. And I was just talking to somebody who had a camera set up and I just tell them about my life. And then a couple more people were coming in the room and a couple more people were coming in the room and I'm like, okay. And then they just called one day and they're like, you know, we'd like you to be a part of the show and let's shoot a bunch of stuff. 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There was the middle school superlatives where it's like most likely to and there was a most likely to be an MTV VJ and I was like secretly hoping people were going to vote for me, but I wasn't campaigning. So nobody voted for me. I think I only voted for myself. I was just naturally thinking. Yeah, hopefully they'll pick me, you know, and like I'll be on my way. So yeah, I lost my train. I thought, why was I going with that? What was your question on that? Like thinking about like pay, contract. So yeah, so looking forward, it was really just about making some connections and yeah, just like reaping the benefits of having some MTV budget, you know, buy some things and, you know, they did, it was our parents who stepped in. It was like, you know what? The kids should get something and it was actually a little bit of a battle to get our $2,000. It was like a whole like we brought in lawyers and we're like, oh, this might not happen and then it finally happened. It's so funny to look back. We thought at that time we were rich. Like I remember getting that check being like, I'm going to go blow this all in golf gear right now. And yeah, it's so funny looking back. I think that we did the whole, the whole first season for that. 2000 for the whole season. What's 2000 for the entire first season? I don't know. What's the situation with? What was the situation with like reruns? Because it would play on MTV now and stop. And that's how like new generations would keep watching it. Because even when it was over, it was still on TV all the time. Yeah. Did you guys make any money? No, no union. There's no reality union for that. So we were not in SAG or anything. I remember there was something worked into the deal for a merch. And this is where I think we really got screwed because we were if I mean, if you can imagine the smallest piece of a pie that you are worked into for if they make X amount of dollars, then the cast will be allowed into the smallest possible sliver of getting some kickbacks for some of the merch. But I mean, it's it's yeah, it's pennies. It was there was really nothing ever. And you said that the first thing you thought to buy was like, I'm getting some golf golf clubs. I blew like all of it on golf clubs right away. Because I was like my older brother was the hand me down and I was on the golf team and it's very into golf. And so I immediately just and you know, after the pay the lawyer, we had our taxes. So now we're down to like 1300. I'm still thinking I'm rich back in 2004. Now we're spending on golf clubs. There's like 600 and then beer and it's like it was like, all right, it's gone. Right. Well, there it goes. My last 50 bucks. Not saving for college. But I feel like it accomplished what you wanted it to, which was getting your foot in the door. To yeah, to work with MTV. Yeah. Yeah, you know, it was looking back. I was like, oh, they must have. I think MTV was looking after me. You know, they really wanted to make sure that I was going to be OK. Yeah. Considering, you know, just how much was in that show, what they used. And you know, they knew they had to take their liberties for certain parts of the show. And so I had always, you know, was was talking on them saying, hey, if you ever need a host, like I want to host at that time, I was really adamant about going into hosting. I thought maybe I'd be in the sports broadcasting. I, you know, wanted to go to sports journalism and be, you know, a sports broadcaster and also work in entertainment as well. I kind of do the crossover. And so, yeah, thankfully, they they allowed me to guest host Beach House in San Diego. I'll never forget that was kind of my on air audition. Once the show started hitting, they let me come in and guest host for a week. And that was the biggest deal in the world to me at that time. And, yeah, thankfully, that went well. It went it went OK. I remember I had, you know, the the the cue cards were all there. And I remember just I was like, you know, I'm wearing dark sunglasses, just like basically read off the. Don't memorize anything. Just like stick to the script and like maybe we'll like, you know, we could pull it off. And I remember thinking about that wearing the sunglasses and then it went well. It was fun. It was in San Diego. And then they they called me to to work out like a year long deal for a VJ. And I was like, holy crap, which again, I look back. It's like I didn't deserve any of that. You know what I mean? And that's it's just pure luck that that I was able to walk into that experience. And so there was a full imposter syndrome from the job. But I tried to like work hard to like, you know, make up for lost time. Like, all right, try to make sure I'm I'm I'm doing a good job. But it was, you know, right away, I felt like I don't deserve any of this. I'm now 19 years old and I'm a VJ for MTV. I got like a dream job. Right. Take that middle schoolers. Yeah, that's what everybody wants to do. I still recommend this is not the career trajectory. This is not career advice. You do not need to start on a reality show, you know, go go study and do the traditional. Yeah. But you end up in this place for a reason, right? Like, I know you say it's luck, but you don't you don't get these jobs if you're terrible, you know, and you have to give yourself some credit. Yeah. If you were terrible, you wouldn't. Yeah, we had we still had a lot to learn. And I was I mean, even once in the hosting, I was like, you know, an acting was appealing to me and I started taking classes and then really caught the bug there. So I figured I was like, let me just, you know, just back away from everything for like a year and just study in LA and like see what happens from there. And then, yeah, just start auditioning and got first. My first movie actually worked with Hillary Burton on a movie. And she was talking about One Tree Hill. And I'm like, man, I know that show. It seemed like it would be a fun show to to work on. The next time I worked for TRL, like a couple weeks later, Chad was on. And so the one tree will start following me around. Yeah, right. And I was like, I really got an audition. It went well. They're like, this isn't the right role for you, but we'll call you again. And they called me for another audition. And then I think the network was like, I don't know about this reality guy. So I kept going in and in for the same role that second time. And then they eventually cast me and I was like, oh, my gosh, this is amazing. Who did you audition for originally? You know, it's somebody's asked me before. I don't know the role they kind of the the sides they gave were vague. And so I don't know if they were just they were just like testing me and they were going to maybe write something. I don't know. Yeah. So yeah, I think they're just going to get a read. I don't have an exact. When the show it was already airing at that point when you had that first audition season season four, I was going to say three or four. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so because that yeah, that makes sense. Did MTV ever try to push you in the direction of other reality shows? Like as you were VJ and doing these things or had a good relationship with them because that was prime time MTV reality TV where they were like, Steven, let's put you on one of these other challenge. I mean, yeah, well, also the Hills obviously was and that was basically a spinoff with Lauren. So they were asking me about that quite a bit. And I think in those later years of the Hills as well, when it was it's kind of very well known that everything was basically scripted at that point. Like everyone was in on it. It was like, you know, they're just like testing. You showed up in that episode for the Hills. I remember to take a ride. I went, it's happening. That was that was a that was a big buildup because I was so scared away from from reality. And I think that they knew that I think early on I expressed that. And actually, the way that that worked out was I was really pressing MTV. They were starting to get into scripted. The awkward was yes. So there was like a cheerleading show. I remember they were doing that was big when it was first. Wolf was around. Yes, team Wolf was coming out. And so I was like, hey, get me. I'd love to, you know, try to at least audition and get in one of these shows. They they kept pushing the hills and eventually they worked out a scripted development deal with me for a year. They're like, hey, if you do two episodes of the Hills, we'll do a scripted development deal with you and we'll find something scripted for you. Right. I was like, yeah, yeah, this is perfect. Quid pro quo. Yeah. Yeah. And now I realize they didn't give a crap about getting me on a scripted show. They're like, just call this money over here, his scripted development deal. And then we'll get him on the hills for a couple episodes. So I did one and then I still felt very uncomfortable. You know, it was it just, yeah, it was not the world for me. And thankfully I got to do with Lauren. So that part was easy, you know, we're friends. But yeah, they they kept calling me to do that second episode and they had the year to do it. And I just be like, no, I'm out in North Carolina. Sorry, we're going to Wontree Hill or I would just have a lot of Dennis appointments and had to be with my family. I don't know. It's emergency. They said I have to be there. The excuses in the book, which I was happy to do. So I only had to do that one episode, which was fine. Hey, pulling an excuse on them when they tricked you with the scripted deal. You got to play back. Yeah, play the game with them. Yeah, exactly. Now, coming around to do traders, you know, you realize that reality TV, it's not for you anymore. Yeah. What made you decide? OK, yes, I'm going to say yes to this. Yeah, honestly, fear of regret for for not actually taking the opportunity. And they had offered season three. I actually couldn't do it, but I was thinking about it then. And but it was because I had not done any other reality. I was like, all right, well, it's an easy pass because I have to. But, you know, I would have I would have actually really considered that. Kind of noticed that within myself. I was like, that's I love the way they produce the show. I think it's so well done and it just really intrigued me. And I was a fan of it. So it came back around, thankfully. And I was like, yeah, I'm in. And but there was that initial like, oh, my gosh, I'm actually going to have to do this. Like I want to do it. And after being off of reality for so many years, it was felt like it was going to be a big step. But yeah, I'm so glad that I did because the show is so great. So good. And you've declined dancing with the stars in the past, I believe. This was yeah, this was back in like 0809 way back in the day. Yeah, I was like, no one wants to see. Would you do it now? You know, the competition reality, it sparked a little bit of something in me where the challenge of stepping into that, you know, I felt like I was rewarded for, you know, kind of going through the fear of doing it and and, you know, had a really enjoyable experience. And I think for that, I feel very grateful and so you never say never. I think with dancing, it seems like that would be even of even a harder of a decision. Like I was really a fan of traders going into it. I don't watch too much dancing, but yeah, I think again, there is that that appeal to the challenge of actually stepping in and doing it. I know how hard that they work on that show and they're dancing every day for months straight. So yeah, it would never say never. Yeah, I feel like like you said, once you get the I felt like this with with watching Dylan Efron, it was like once he got the reality competition bug is like now he now we're seeing him on all the shows. Like he wants to be competing because it's just a different element than just doing a docu series type show of them just following your life around. You're on locations, a set amount of time, all those things. So I mean, we would we would absolutely absolutely watch it. This is truly so fun guys, truly just launched their limited edition 24 ounce wild berry cans. And they're not just drinks. They're basically collectibles. I have the New York, New Jersey can ready to go. We have a huge summer ahead. 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The fan base you guys have created from One Tree Hill is probably one of the, I don't know, loudest, proudest fan bases of any TV show like ever, I feel like. And everyone shows up to these conventions that you guys do and all these events. What's your like favorite thing I'm getting to do all those events? I know. Did you play basketball with them? And one of them? Somebody, the first time we did a basketball game, I was like, I don't feel like this is kind of sacrilegious. I don't want to be on the team. Right. Right. And it was James Loughlin. I was never on the team. Yeah, I was on the team. I was just like, I was the guy who came in later and then it was the bartender after that. So I was like, this is I just doesn't feel right. And then James, we were in the locker room. I was like, I don't even know if I want to do this. Like I'll just hang. And James is like, hey, dude, it's a TV show. So you're good. Like it's just a TV show. Remember, this is not real life. And I'm like, OK, OK. So he had to kind of have a come to Jesus moment with me there. But yeah, I think it's it's fun. You know, FWB, they're they're doing a lot of it for charity as well. And so it's great to get out there and run around. But my basketball skills are limited. So we're doing another one later this fall. It's any opportunity to go back to Wilmington to Tree Hill where we shot the show is always something that's enticing to me. I yeah, that was like kind of my college experience. You know, I was I got the show that I really wanted and I was in, you know, I was on the East Coast and everything was so new. But also, there's some similarities as far as just being on the coast where that city is where we shot it, a little surf town and and rightful beach. So yeah, I just yeah, I look back at those memories so fondly. Did so much growing up during that time. It was so instrumental for my career to be able to have that time on that set. So any opportunity to go back, I'm always like, hey, sign me up. There was a bit of a, you know, rumor for floating around not too long ago of the girls trying to maybe bring the show back in some way. If that were to come to fruition, would you want to be involved? Do you want to have any participation in that? Yeah, you know, I think again, I always going back to Wilmington is nice. And I felt like I was so happy to have a good trajectory in the show. We're when we left off in season nine, I had been on the show more than I ever had before and had more storylines that were developing, which was nice. So it was nice to leave it there. I think I would, of course, say yes and happy to go back and do the show. And but, you know, it's got to make sense. It's got to fit for what they're doing. So I wouldn't necessarily, you know, banging down the doors of Hillary and Sophia being like, hey, what's the update? What's my role? Let them do their thing, but support them for what they got going on with that. It's in good hands as far as getting its best shot to have a reboot. So it's good. That's what we thought, too. They didn't promise you the deal that MTV did with the scripted series. Yeah, exactly. So true. But you've gotten to work with James still a lot, which is which is awesome. I know you have some great news about your your show was doing great as well. Yeah. So what you guys are doing a second season. We actually are second season is done. Second season is done. Yeah, we have some news that that we're sharing here momentarily about what exactly is happening with season two. And we've been sitting on it for a little while, but the time has finally presented itself. So we're we're excited to get season two out. And we're actually going to get it to a lot wider audience. It's going to be a lot of territories around the world. Very exciting. First season went to some great spots and it popped around the world a little bit, but not there were some places where it didn't hit. And now we're going to have a great opportunity for folks to see it that haven't seen the first season while also releasing season two. So we're super excited. That's awesome. Yeah. What can people sort of expect from season two? Can you use a little bit? There was a lot to watch season one for sure. Season one, it really focused mostly on James and I's characters. And then you you met our his ex-wife in the show and then my ex-girlfriend in the show, you met them a kind of little bit and you see the circle of friends, the four of them. And we're going to focus a lot more on the four of them going into season two. It's more of a forehander. And so, you know, what they got going on, Kree behind and Alex Park, who play the female leads, they're fantastic actresses. They're Australian, so they're cooler shit, much cooler than James and I. They kill it and they have some really fun stuff together. And they're that kind of spiral that was happening in the first season with James and I's characters. You're going to see a little bit of that through them. This go around and it's it's delicious. That's so exciting. And especially like you mentioned, when a show reaches a wider audience and then people go back and watch the first season, the show just keeps on growing from there. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, we're fully independent. So it's such a it's such a big get for us to be able to have this opportunity to share it with with more folks. That's awesome because I'm not to jump on whatever the announcement is, I'm assuming it's something that hopefully when you open, you know, when you're when you're on something that pushes it out more and then you're like, wait, the show has multiple seasons already. And you can't even more. So you're like, I can. Yes, it's more enticing to go and start and people recognize the faces. And you're like, what is this? And it makes you want to watch. So that's that's really, really exciting. I love seeing you guys work together still. I feel like it really just feeds into the nostalgia of things while also doing things that you now love, right? Like you you give the fans what we want to see from, you know, years ago, but you're still doing what you love currently. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a little bit, you know, the show is we obviously put it in a world that we know very well and we like to say it's it's like a version of ourselves if we just listen to the devil on our shoulder our entire life and and all of a sudden we're in our mid 30s and have nothing figured out. So it's fun to play with that. And yeah, there's a lot of wink and nod nodding to, you know, our early years in the business and what we've seen is a lot of stories when we've seen with different folks and different things that we've experienced. And I mean, we've shot in Wilmington where we obviously shot One Tree Hills. So yeah, we have a lot of fun with that. And even like we were talking about some of the fan conventions and stuff this season and season two, we'll go to a fan convention in the show. We got to use. We got to use some of we were at a actual One Tree Hill convention. We told some folks if they want to stick around for a day of filming, please do. And they did. So that's awesome. Yeah, I was like, like I said, the fandom is so deep. It's like, I think that if you were to ask anyone to jump, they'd be like, how high one real fans? Yeah, they've been so well. They kept the show alive for that's why you got, I think, seasons seven, eight, nine. I mean, they were so vocal online and so passionate about it. And so that that's why that show continued on for sure. Definitely. That is so true. And you you got some big life moments happening. So you're going to be a dad. Yeah, yeah. Gradually. That's really, really exciting. Have you gotten some any crazy dad advice? You're like, that can't be that can't be right. And crazy dad advice. Good question. What have I, you know, I always want to ask your dad. You want to ask your friends, like, tell me the real. Yeah, give me the real advice. You know what? I was I was telling somebody the other day, I was like, you know what? I know this is going to be a lot. I know I'm going to be very humbled. So I was like, you know what? I'm an early riser, so I think I'll be OK with the lack of sleep. And then he just started laughing at me. Yeah, yeah. Keep the positivity now. Love love where your mind's at. Just just call me in a couple of months when baby's here. Tell me how you're doing on that early rising. So yeah, yeah. That's so funny. I think the best advice that, well, two things I got consistently, it's like, look, everyone's got to figure it out for themselves. So don't get too bogged down by certain specific piece of advice that you think is really good. But a consistent threat I've gotten from folks is get out in the world. Like, don't just stay at home and feel like, oh, my gosh, we like this, this precious little cargo here. We do we would cannot let anything happen to it. Like, let's let's, you know, get out in the world a little more. Don't let it stop us from traveling and take advantage of the free flights with the baby. Why it's, you know, I like that. To buy them a seat. Yeah, I like that advice a lot. I mean, we don't we don't have kids, but, you know, in the future, when we plan on it, if it happens, I feel like that's one advice that I hear from a lot of people too. It's like, get out there. Sure. You know what I mean? Like, like a European way of parenting. Like, I think that all the time when I'm over there and I'm like this last summer I'm my husband, I are out at like, it's basically an outdoor nightclub, but we're having dinner. It's 10 o'clock. The kids run around everywhere and I'm just like, this doesn't happen. Yeah, it doesn't happen in the big jersey. The stroller next to them. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's yeah, it's good because we there's so much stuff too where you consume online about our here's the advice here's what you need to do. And sometimes it tells you if you're a good parent real quick. Exactly. That's what I was going to say. It's like, and you could really get insecure about whether or not you've been a good parent or not. And so I think that keeps people from doing certain things. So yeah, we got to break through those barriers. Everyone do you. And we all turned out all right. So it's like you can see what did you what did your parents do? Yeah, I don't know. Siblings, do you guys? Yes, I have two older siblings and I have two younger siblings. So we're actually switched. OK, yeah, I'm the youngest of three. I'd like to say third child first mistake. My parents wanted to they got three. So same. Hey, what's up? Well, we turned out great. Exactly. I saw my parents. I was like, oh, third child. All right. Well, like guess who's going into the arts? We're going to start with a reality show. Me too. They're like, this one's dropping out of college and doing a podcast. Let's get her into the acting. Yeah. Hey, they're always I'm the best mistake they ever made. That's what they say. So. Exactly. My parents actually they sat me down and told me this when I was like 13. You know, why? Why are we doing this? What are we achieving? But they think it was going to get out like. Right. Right. I was going to tell you. Hear it for me. You're going to hear from somebody else. The worst was when I was a kid and, you know, we'd go see cousin, whoever. Whatever. Great. And oh, you look like the mailman's kid. You don't even look like the parents. Oh, great. So you're adding to this delusion that I have in my head. Great. My brother's story for that is totally inappropriate. But yeah, I cannot say what he says happened for when I arrived. But yeah, it was it was third kid. We've all been there. Yeah. My brother's like, mom was in the bathroom and then. Yeah. They or have you ever had your parents tell you that they like talk to you about when they your conception story. And I'm like, I could have gone my whole life without knowing this. No one would have told me. I don't need to know about me, my siblings. Somebody it's like, they're like, oh, you know, that one night thing. And I'm like, great, I didn't need to lineage. Thank you. Yeah. I got it because my middle name is Noel and I went to maybe high school before I put two and two together because it was born in September. And my parents were like, well, you're a Christmas baby. And I was like, wow. And now spelled like the first Noel. And now that I know, I'm telling everyone, yeah, her middle name's Noel because her parents had a great Christmas. Christmas out here. And so, no, it, I don't know, parents can't help themselves. So they my mom was like, she was like, you know, we wanted to name you Tanner. She's like, you came out tan. Yeah. I was like, thanks, mom. That's OK. Really, like we thought outside the box. My dad stepped in and was like, he's going to be Stephen. Like, well, this is really meaningful. It's like, if you came out really pale, you would have just totally stayed. I would never have been a question. I love it. Oh, my God. That is so funny. Stephen, we are so excited. The Laguna Beach anniversary special, that is out April 10th. April 10th. On Roku. We're all so excited to watch. Is there anything you can tease before we leave? You know, it was it was emotional. It was more emotional than I thought. I did not think that I would be crying on this thing. But I shed some tears. So there's that a lot of stuff that I think there's some questions that people want, the hard pressing questions and discussions between folks. That happens. And also, you can see this. I hope people can reflect on their own lives of how far they've come from when they first watched the show and can relate to it and see now where they're at. And, you know, even if you are the third child, first, first mistake, we are, you've done great in life. You come so far and a lot of this group has and we've all come to a comfortable spot where the show is. So it's nice. I think that's the celebration that we want. We want it to be a really positive, feel good thing for for viewers while getting some of that, you know, awkward, juicy little details and some of the dynamics of personalities are still there. It was a fun, funny, weird experience. And I think people enjoy it. I love to watching you guys all sit around like just from the teasers and stuff sitting around the bonfire and having those moments, because it is so relatable that it is 20 years later, even when I see my high school friends now, we spend all of our time laughing and joking about the stupid shit we did in high school. We all watched you guys on TV. But it is that you do have that same relatable moment of like my me and my high school friends would do this and sit down and joke about all the things we did and laugh about it. And even though, you know, we saw on the podcast, but like seeing Kristin and Lauren together, I know it all makes us feel certain. Yeah, I like watching them do TikToks and Instagram and all that. So it's so fun. We're so excited to watch. And Steven, thank you so much for coming in. You guys are the best. Appreciate you. Thank you. We're about to get into a great game of beat, re-infrared trivia. But first, let's talk about State Farm because it is great to have friends who support whatever you're into, whether it's, you know, hip hop and country mashups or the latest indie comedy flick that's coming out. And like those friends, State Farm is there to help you feel supported by helping you choose coverage. You need with so many coverage options. It's nice knowing you have help finding what fits you. So you can check coverage off the list and spend more time laughing with friends at the movie theater. Go online at State Farm.com or use the award-winning app to get help from one of their local agents. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another game of beat, re-infrared. This is game number 214. And we are joined by Alex and Caitlin. They are lifelong besties and they are ready to play. We are on a losing streak. So let's just acknowledge over the top. We're just going to acknowledge her right from the top. And now we're playing lifelong best friends. So we'll see how this goes. How are you guys feeling? Good. We just hope to get on the board. That's all. Good, good. We all hope the same thing. Hey, as do we. It's going to be 15 questions. If you get the question right, you get the point. If you get it wrong, the other team can steal the point. Whoever's the most points at the end wins. To determine who goes first, Noah's going to give us a movie. We're going to guess the Ron Tomatoes critic score of that movie. Whoever is closest will go first. We each get our own individual guess and we will alternate between teams for guesses. So Noah, what is today's movie? Today's movie is yesterday. The Beatles. Oh, excuse me. OK, so one of you guys, guess first. You go first. I don't, I feel like I didn't hear a lot about that movie. So I'm going to go low. I'll say 43. Rhea 89. 72. 65. That's the closest 63. I think I'm a good start. That's a problem. It could be a little higher. Yeah. OK, question number one. I'm going to go for the question. That's a problem. It could be a little higher. OK, question number one to Rhea in French. She had a brief from New Jersey. Who was Kim Kardashian's dance partner when she competed on Dancing with the Stars in 2008? Was it Max? No. It might have been Mark. Maybe him. 15 seconds. It wasn't Derek. It wasn't. Five seconds. I think maybe Mark. Time is up. Mark Ballas, violizer. Correct. Nice. One nothing, Rhea in French. Question number two to Katelyn and Alex. Shut up, brief from New Jersey again. Which Taylor Swift song features Brendan Urie of Panic at the Disco? Me? Is it me? Yeah, it's all you. It's the one with rainbows and it's like they did a music video for it. Is that the song? Is that what it's called? I literally have no idea. Taylor Swift is not my strong suit. A recent Swiftie. 15 seconds. Yeah, I would go with your gut. Me, final answer. Correct. Nice. I thought you were asking at first. No, no. When you said me and she said it's all you, I was like, oh, don't confuse her. Alright, time to put one. Question number three to Rhea in French. Shout out Olivia from Michigan. Between which seasons was Real Housewives of Miami put on pause for eight years? Oh, it's either between... Oh, it's either between two and three or three and four. My gut is three and four. I think they had three seasons and then they got... Go with your gut. I'm going to say between season three and season four. Final answer. Correct. Nice. Honestly, thank God. Yeah. Eight years is a long time. Yeah. Alright, two, one, Rhea in French. Question number four to Kailin and Alex. Shout out Veronica from Jersey. Name this actress based on these movies. Harris Brae, Ice Age the Meltdown, Valentine's Day. Ice Age the Meltdown. No, it's not Nikki. Okay, Queen Latifah? Yes. Yeah, because I... The only other person I would think is Brittany Snow or Amanda Bynes from Harris Brae. Yeah. So yeah, she's for sure and she's the girl and I... Wait, the OG, Ice Age the Meltdown? No, I feel good about that. Okay, Queen Latifah, final answer. Correct. Damn, this is a battle. This is a back and forth for the ages right now. Tied up at two. Question number five to Rhea in French at Carly from Lancel, Pennsylvania. Name this year. Katy Perry releases California Girls. Emily Blunt and Chonkersinski get married in Toy Story 3 hits theaters. This is us? Yeah. 2010. It's 2010, I believe. 2010. What was the middle one? Emily Blunt and Chonkersinski. And then Toy Story 3. Toy Story, O-Troo Story 3, yeah. Ice, good. Yeah. 15 seconds. 2010, final answer. Correct. I know for a fact it was 2010. That's why I said it like that. No, I know you did. I was just thinking it. I was just thinking it out. All right, three, two, Rhea in French. Question number six to Caitlin and Alex. Shout out Ashley and John from Pittsburgh. What movie features Hayden Panatier, Kate Bosworth, and Ryan Gosling? Um, okay, so... Ryan Gosling's in Remember the Titans, right? And I know Hayden is. I think it's Remember the Titans. Because she's a little girl? Yeah. It's not, um, say Hayden. No. That's not even the Hayden Panatier. No. 15 seconds. Remember the Titans, final answer. Correct. That's a Ryan Gosling with 30 off. Yeah, we're playing tennis right now. He's the main... All right, three. Everybody talks about his character in Remember the Titans. I know, but when I first found that out, I was like, wait, Ryan got like... Liability at the spot. Yeah. Tied up at three. Question number seven to Rhea in French. Shout out Annie from Chicago. In heated rivalry, what food does Ilya make for him and Shane while they are staying at his house in Boston? Is this us? Yeah. Tuna sandwich. Tuna sandwich, final answer. Correct. Tuna melts, tuna sandwich. Same deal? Yeah. Same deal. Yep. Yep. All right. Four, three. Wow. Question number eight to Caitlin and Alex. Shout out Erica and Ryan from Arlington, Virginia. In Mama Mia 2, what order does Donna sleep with the following three men, Bill, Harry and Sam? Shoot. I think it's... I've never seen the second one. I believe... I know it's Harry first because they meet in the hotel, then Bill on the boat, and then Sam after. So I want to say, yeah, Harry, Bill, Sam, final answer. Incorrect. Oh my God. Wow. That was different. That was... Yeah. They said Harry, Bill, Sam. And Noah said Bill, Harry, Sam, so that's not it. He said Harry, Bill, Sam. No, that's what they said. Harry, Sam, Bill. Yeah, maybe. Ten seconds. All right. Yeah. Harry, Sam, Bill, final answer. Correct. Although that would have been real tricky if I just said it in the order. You said it in the correct order, yeah. Yeah, that would have been. All right. Five, three, Rhianne, Fran. Question number nine to them. Shout out Jordan from Chicago. In Beyonce's song, Single Ladies, how many good years does she say she gave him when she says cried my tears gave you a blank good years? I don't know. Eight just sounds lyrically like it would sound good. Yeah, let's say eight. Ten. Ten. Eight. Eight just like float like I'm just... Yeah, let's go. Let's go eight. I don't I didn't really get eight. Yeah. Yeah. Eight final answer. Yeah. Correct. All right. Eight's probably too many. Ten. Wait, did you say encourage? Yeah, he said it. Yeah, eight was wrong. Yeah. Okay. Glitch. I was like, oh wow. I feel like ten just feels like a good number. Like, do you think she was saying it about herself? How long did Jay-Z take to the quote? Ten seconds. No idea. Yeah, just do ten. Ten final answer. Correct. Three. That's all. That would be a lot of years. No, I know. Yeah. Yeah. So what's, you know, like... No, I don't know what that means, Tom. Yeah. All right. Five, three. First question wrong. Yeah. Damn. 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For a limited time, Neutrophil is offering our listeners $10 off your first month subscription and free shipping when you visit Neutrophil.com and enter promo code CHICS. That's Neutrophil.com spelled N-U-T-R-A-F-O-L.com promo code CHICS. Question number 10, and this is to Kailin and Alex, I'm going to play a movie clip and you tell me what movie it's from. Okay. Danielle, wait, I'm sorry. Let me guess, someone showed you a tape and you thought what the hell, she does it for a living, right? You like told me to do it. Oh, no, that's a mature response. Why didn't you just tell me? Because I didn't want to, okay? Because I love the way you looked at me. Hold on. Fuck you. I have no idea. It sounds like, it sounds like Brie from Tell Me Lies, but I don't think it would. Yeah, it does sound like her, but I don't think that would be her either. A tape, so she's, what is she doing? Turn the lights on. Turn the lights on. Turn the lights on. Oh, I don't know. For a second, I thought it was that like, 10 seconds. S.G.P. movie. Do you have anything to throw out? Yeah, I really don't know. Pass. It's the girl next door. I love this movie. Oh, final answer. Correct. Nice. Alicia Gruthburt. Yeah. We had no chance. I had no clue. Ameel Hirsch. Yeah. Alright, 6-3. That is funny journalism tape. Yeah. No, she's a porn star. She's auditioning for something? It's a good movie though. Alright, 6-3, Rianne Fran. Question number 11 to them. Shadow Page from Richmond, Kentucky. And Fun Fact in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, because Ameel Hirsch plays Mark Arrabbi's husband in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. They do a nod to the girl next door in the movie. I thought you were going to say Fun Fact. I auditioned for that part. She was way too young. She was way too young. Jesus Christ. I don't even know if I was alive when this movie came out. No, that's not that old, is it? The girl next door? The girl next door is early 2000s, no? Yeah, maybe. Or 1990s. 2004. Yeah, I mean you were seven. Yeah. Alright, 6-3. This question number 11 to Rianne Fran. Shadow Page from Richmond. In the show Victorious, what is the Hollywood Arts Social Networking website where the students post statuses, photos, videos and news at the school? This is to us? Oh yeah. The splat? I don't remember, so that sounds right. Okay, the splat? I mean, did that get right to you? Final answer? Incorrect. The slap? The slap? I think it's the slap. You felt like you knew what to go for. I think it's the slap. Final answer. Correct. I just, the splat. Mixed my words around. Mixed my, I was dyslexic for a second. I sometimes can be watching this on Netflix. Alright, 6-4 Rianne Fran. And this is question number 12 to Caitlin and Alex. Shout out Lainey from Philly. What was the first name of Sharpeze Assistant in High School Musical 3? I don't know. I should know this. It feels like it would be something like an Ashley, Lauren. Right. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It feels like it would be something like an Ashley, Lauren. Right. Emily, Molly, anything? Nothing's giving you? No. Okay. 15 seconds. Ashley kind of feels fun because that's her name. Fair. Yeah, let's just go with the wild guess. Yeah? Yeah. Ashley, final answer? Incorrect. Rianne Fran. Is this the British girl? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh. I'm blanking on her name though. The first name that came into my mind was Tess. But I don't think that's it. Is it Tessa? 15 seconds. Maybe Tessa? Because Tess is Camp Rock. Oh. That's probably what I'm confusing it with. But could, no, what the fuck is her name? Five seconds. Yeah, that terrible accent. Time is up. Tessa, final answer. Incorrect. Tera. Tera. Tera, Tera, Tera. Tera, Tera, Tera. Yeah, there's a T. Yeah. Go ahead, Shawn. Yeah. All right. We got three questions left and it's 6-4 Rianne Fran. This question is to Rianne Fran. Chad Taylor from Indiana. In friends, what object are they told Mr. Heckels was holding when he died? I have no idea. Who was Mr. Heckels? The super in the building? Oh, yeah. Oh. What object was he holding when he died? A hammer? A broom? No, he didn't like weird things. No. A hammer, final answer. Incorrect. Okay, so he was the neighbor and he would yell at them sometimes, but I cannot think of what he would be holding. Like, did he have like a dog? Did he have like a niche activity? No, the only thing I could think of was like binoculars or something because he was creeping on them. I don't know. Five seconds. Yes. Binoculars, final answer. Incorrect. It was a broom. Oh, fuck. He was hitting the ceiling. Oh, fuck. Shut the fuck up, bam. Oh, because he might not. That's my mom. Oh, shit. What did he say? Because he was always hitting from the downstairs with a broom. We could have went with any sort of... Wow. Damn. No, just normally. I mean, Friends Trivia is not like... Yeah. He was the super though, right? I think he was just... Or just the neighbor downstairs. Was this the neighbor downstairs? I don't know, to be honest. Six four still, two questions left. This is to Caitlin and Alex. Shout out, Lainey from Philly. Name one Rene Rap album title out of her three solo albums. Oh my God. Snow Baby or Snow? Snow Something. It's Snow Something. I don't know. There's one that's like Snow Something. Snow Baby or like Snow? Snow. I told you I'm not good with albums. 15 seconds. Oh, no, but you're good with Rene. You know Rene. I know, but I just don't. It's just Snow Baby. Snow Something. You think Snow Baby? Snow Something. Five seconds. Snow Baby final answer? Incorrect. Snow Angel. I have no idea. That's, I think so. Yeah, final answer. Correct. Woo! Wow, you're so close. So close. You knew there was snow in there. Honestly, that question originally was like name her first album title, but I was like, I don't know if people know Rene Rap albums, album titles like that. Yeah, what is her first album title? It's, so her first one is, I guess it's technically an EP, but everything to everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then Snow Angel and then her last one was Bite Me. Then this last one, Bite Me. All right, well that seals the victory. Seven, four. Sorry guys, we needed that for our reputation. We got one more. But you play a fantastic game, so it's like, you know, same thing. Glad we were able to give that. We'll do the last one. Shout out Anna from Philly. She says go birds. Birds. To re-infrared, what iconic artist wrote and originally recorded the song, I Will Always Love You, famously performed by Whitney Houston? Dolly Parton. Dolly Parton, Financer. Correct. Nice. Eight four. What a game. High score. High score. Only three questions left on the board. Yeah, we needed that. We really needed that. We did. Thank you girls so much for playing. That was such a fun game. Thanks so much. And you still get merch, even though we beat you. But just said no at your address and size and we'll get that sent to you guys. All right. So nice to see you guys. Thank you. All right. All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. We hope you have a wonderful weekend. Go enjoy that hopefully nice weather wherever you are and we will talk to you on Monday. Love you. Yeah, Chicks in the Office. Long time listener. First time caller. Look at the charts. Who does it the best? Two chicks getting paid in reality checks. You can find them at the gym. It's not even a flex. Last minute red carpet flew him out on the jet. Yeah, they're who you want to be. They're always on your screen. Two queens and they might be spilling royalty. A lot of topics that are popping here to get into. I know a show that you probably want to listen to. Turn the heat up. Turn the beat up. Record the pop. Made a bag with their feet up. The ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up. Who's the pod that they all want to meet up? 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