#636 - Jason Momoa

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He has a new film out with Dave Bautista called The Wrecking Crew. Highly recommend it. Great action film. He's out the mud and the water. It's Aquaman. Today's guest is Mr. Jason Momoa. I will find a song I will sing it I will sing it We'll be fine. We'll be fine. I'm here to do the greatest Theovan interview ever. I'm so sorry. Oh, damn. Actually, it could be it. I'm trying to think if we've had the greatest one. We had an Amish kid that was pretty great. Oh, wow. He's pure Amish, too. He's like, every now and then I'll sneak off to the creek and we hide a cell phone down there and we'll listen to a little bit of Def Leppard. That was one of the best things I ever heard. A little bit of pour some sugar on me? Yeah. Fuck yeah, dude. And I don't even think they have sugar, which is the craziest part. So just down there listening to songs about illegal ingredients. That's all they're doing, dude. Jason, thanks for hanging out, man. Thanks for having me, buddy. We met at the 50th, I think it was the 50th SNL. Yep. I just remember I was walking, and then this big, like, kind of, I would say semi-beautiful hand just grabbed me. This thing that definitely, and immediately I felt like I hadn't been in the gym. That was, like, my immediate feeling. And then it just, like, pulled me into, like, this orbit. And it was like, hey, man, nice to see you here. And that was it, dude. It was awesome. It's just great to see you, man. Yeah, it made my day. You make people smile. You make me smile. So I'm like, when you see that, like, it was a bit of an overload there. It was a lot. And I feel like once you're talking, yeah, like when you're with Meryl Streep and Robert De Niro's on one thing. And then, you know, I freaked out when I saw Chevy Chase. Yeah. This older lady's like, come here, darling. You're the Aquaman. I was like, yeah. And she's like, Chevy, get over here. Chevy, get over here. I'm like, oh, my gosh. This is Chevy Chase's wife. And then she's like, Bill, get over here. And I'm, who's Bill? Murray. Oh, God. Chevy Chase and Bill Murray. I'm sandwiched between them, and I'm just going like, this beautiful woman brought this together. Bill's like, who the fuck is this guy? And so was Chevy, and he's like, that's the Aquaman. Our grandchildren love him. Oh, yeah. But you just go like, there it is. Oh, that's cool. See, in my mind, I was sandwiched. Yeah. But right there, I'm a little bit more of the bun. Yeah, you seem like more of a bun. Yeah. You know? Or like a nice rye or something. a pumper nickel so but we were uh that was it was just a it was a crazy night huh yeah that was a lot man i met hanson hanson was there yeah they look like adult hanson kids or whatever because what do you want what year are you born i'm born in 1980 i'm 79 there we go so we know what hansons look like when they were bopping it out yeah we know the real hansons yeah i just gave my son a Criss Cross Colors. You remember that brand? It was just this brand that I had when Criss Cross came out. And my son didn't know who that was. It was the year you were born, maybe, when it came out? 82? Yeah, I think it was. I get Criss Cross, Cross Colors. Anyways, I just gave it to my son, and I was just dating myself, man. But it was a moment. I've been unpacking my old stuff and giving it to my son, and he loves it. because all that stuff's cool again. Yeah. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah, things come back around. Yeah. You grew up in Hawaii? I was born in Hawaii. Yeah. And my parents got divorced when I was little, and I moved to Iowa. But, like, you know, Bridges of Madison County, Iowa. Dude, Meryl Streep, Bridges of Madison County. Bam, boom. One of my favorite books. The book and the movie, it's identical. It's, like, word for word. Yeah, the movie's the exact way of the book. Yeah. Not that that matters or anything. Like, graduated, you know. Did you go to the University of Iowa? No. No, I actually went to, we like to make fun of it, University of Southern Ankeny. I went to DMACC, Des Moines Area Community College. And then went to. And is that still open? It is, DMACC. And then I went off to get in-state tuition in Colorado. And I was living out in Colorado State, and I was working with a trail crew out there and working at Lee's Cyclery and Bizetti's and all these different bus and tables and shit, trying to get in-state tuition, trying to postpone college as much as possible. Trying to postpone it or stay in it? Well, just trying to get in-state tuition so I could do wildlife biology there. But I went to school. It's weird because when I was in Iowa, I did marine biology. They have a place called Central Campus where all these different schools would go into Des Moines and you would learn marine biology. I'd have like a shark tank, so I'd have my own eel. And you'd learn about all these different things. And I always wanted to be a marine biologist. and we'd spend our spring breaks down in the Keys. So we'd get in the yellow bus, go all the way down from fucking Iowa, all the way down to the Keys. That's so far. Yeah, and we'd study with scientists. But I did that two years, credit for college. And then I was going to go, like, over summertime, I was like, I'll go to Hawaii. Since I'm Hawaiian, maybe I'll get a better deal going to college. And the TV show came. And I was just surfing with my family. I have a pretty big surf family. So we – and then a show came, and I ended up getting it, and it changed everything. I was 19. And you were working so – but they had the – oh, my God, that's him? Yeah, dude. Don't, don't, don't, don't. Don't what? Get some lotion out? To rub on the picture? Have some respect, guys. Dude, that's wild that you got to – I was 19, man. That was crazy. My job before that was bussing tables, yeah, working at a surf shop. I bussed tables. Bro, I was one of the first bussers to ever use creatine in Arizona. South of Phoenix, I was one of the best busboys there was, I think, for probably about a two-and-a-half-year period. Is that where you went to Arizona? I went to University of Arizona for one year, and then I went to some other schools. But, dude, I was so good at bussing tables, man. Yeah. Well, I would take all the food because I worked at a really nice restaurant. Yeah. And we were all – my buddies that lived together, we were just a bunch of climbing dirtbags. And I bring this nice pasta home because, you know, if the if the if the couple didn't look too sus and they left their stuff. Yes. You know, you just box that in and bring it home. And so I always had like the best restaurants pasta. Dude, I worked at a place called Dakota's Wine and Feed. And the guy there was like this perverted manager who would kind of teach us how to do like he would like kind of like oral sex on women. But just like in conversation. Anyway, that guy was a complete pervert. But I will – not in person, not with a real woman. Just he would like tell us young kids like how to do it and stuff, and we didn't know what was going on, dude. Like I remember when he would talk about it, all the pimples on my face would like explode at once. But anyway, that was beside the point. But they had very nice food there, and I remember if I'd see a couple – if they used their knife, that to me was like, oh, they're fancy. I can eat off of their plate. Yes. So if the knife was dirty, I would definitely take a little bit of that, like some cured ham or some specialty meats on there. and I'd get a stack of some special sandwich that was made of all types of stuff. Yeah, man. It was nice. That's back – Feeding the homies. Yeah. And back then it's like when you're out of your mom's house your first time out, you're like orange juice was like champagne. If someone had orange juice, I was like, oh, my God, I haven't had orange juice in fucking – because I don't want to beer and fucking booze. Yeah. Right? Milk, never saw it again. You live mom's house and I fuck milk. And then it was basically water, beer. my dad still kind of had to pay child support so that was like that paid rent and i could just save enough bus and tables yeah or i could work just thursday friday saturday i go rock climbing and snowboarding so it'd be sunday monday tuesday wednesday and thursday come back so i had like four i had a little plan you know and uh were you with like a certain group of friends from growing up or was it just is like it's still like a core group or was you just guys there's one guy i didn't have too many friends growing up and uh i i mean i had friends but like the like true buddies they're they're in my neighborhood but they stayed there there's one guy he is uh my best friend to say godfather my kids he went out to colorado first so he was one year older and then i went there out there to be with him and he's my best yeah he's my best bud so it was just us running running amok so much fun colorado is so awesome it is it's good god i love being out there is that the Altitude always gets me so much, dude. I get affected pretty easily by the environment. It's got to be hard for you to go from Nashville to here because it gets dry. Like I just came from New Zealand right now. And last night I'm like – I felt sorry for my lady because I'm just like – Up-wheezing? I'm fucking drying out like – Just shedding a skin in the bed. I mean it's summer down there. You know what I mean? You got to hear it. Yeah. Yeah, dude. New Zealand is a – dude, I met people like – I'm like, what are you talking about? you're not using any letters they have people there it's like i think that's australians but yeah oh we went to new zealand we had some shows down in auckland and we met pete is just like we met guys who like it was like they had a sentence stuck in them they just couldn't get it out of them no matter what like the people there that talked anyway it was just some of the craziest lingo i've ever heard but one of the most beautiful places we went to um we got to meet Israel Adesanya down there because he lives there. Yep, style bender. Yep, and they were super nice to us whenever we went over there. But we went to the beach one day, and they said you can only be outside of the beach for a certain amount of time because they don't have that much marine layer. They don't have the ozone layer. You get fried. Dude, I was like, it's so beautiful, but you got to go back inside. I know one never told me to go back inside, but, I mean, yeah, if you're sitting out there, you're going to feel it. Like, you just feel yourself cooking. Yeah. Like, yeah. Yeah, well, at a certain point, you should go in, I think. Yeah, you definitely should. Or to stay out there in grill, maybe. So you went from Des Moines Community College, DMACC. Yep. And then you ended up over in Colorado. Yep, went to Colorado and then went to Hawaii just to kind of be with my father, get to know him better. Was he cool? My dad's great. My dad's awesome. It's just I'd go there when I was young, like 8, 9, 10. Like basically when I was young enough to comprehend it right enough to be with my mom. And then I'd go until like high school years. We had probably a bit of a falling out. So I didn't go too much. And maybe my sophomore, junior, senior year. So once I was like, I'm going to go back, be with dad, bury the hatchet, and see if I can get into college over there. And then, like I said, the show came and changed my life. And then kind of tried to, you know, tell my mom, like, I'm on this show. And she's like, what are you talking about? My mom's in the same house I was raised in. Wow. She's like, what are you doing? Are you doing something with Satan? I know. She's like, you're on Baywatch Hawaii? I was like, Mom, it's not what you think. It's like a whole different spin on it. They're in Hawaii. And she's like, what? It's a whole different spin. They're in Hawaii. Yeah, I know. I mean, Hasselhoff wasn't really on it anymore, but they're trying to change it up. So anyways. Dang. And then I spent the next 30 years digging myself out of that hole. Yeah. Cheers to that. And here we are now. And so your mom is a white woman and your father is more Islander? My dad's Hawaiian, yeah. And my mom is basically German-Irish. Is there a lot of beef between Hawaiians and Hawaii? Are there different kind of sects of, like, SECTS of Hawaiians, like different kind of, like, or is it if you're a Hawaiian, you're Hawaiian? I mean, that's a good question. I wouldn't say it's, like, sex. definitely you know back in the day there was different islands were different kings until it was united by kamehameha but not everyone loved kamehameha he could have been with kahikili could have been different you could have been with different islands and that obviously to unite them your family could have been murdered so i don't i don't think everyone sees eye to eye but having said that like we are you know since we are a part of america now like i think all those generations you know our our culture and our language was completely removed from us like most indigenous races and uh you know really trying to get it back and i don't necessarily think there's like sex to it right yeah it's not like so people aren't like that tribal i'm gonna tell you what not as much as like if you were compared to new zealand where there's i i don't don't quote me but there's 200 plus different iwis different tribes in my eyes Oh, yeah. I met some Ewees over there. Yeah, whereas the South Island, there's one. Like, Naitahu's just one tribe on the South Island. The North Island has many. So it definitely has to go through a lot more if you're trying to agree on certain things. Like, it's got to go through more people. Yeah. That's what you mean, yeah. Got it. And did your dad have a – like, is he, like, a very Hawaiian kind of guy? Very much so. He is, really? I mean, in the sense of, like – Because there's so much pride in that culture. It's such a unique culture. Yeah. I come from the west side of Oahu. My dad lives in Nanakuli. Most of my family is like Nanakuli, Waianae, and then Makaha. And that whole west side is called Hawaiian Homestead Land. So it's like our reservation kind of thing. And so – but my father is very much a waterman in that sense. What does that mean? He likes to be out in the water? Yeah. Or is it a specific job? Outriggers, paddling, surfing. He was a coach. I mean just a waterman as in knowledge of sailing, knowledge of – Anything out there. And you're Aquaman, which is crazy. Which is crazy. That's crazy. It is, and I've always wanted to. My family is very much some of the last living legends of surfing or of watermen is like my great uncle's Buffalo Kiolana. Bring him up. See if we can get a gander at him. Buffalo Kiolana, and Brian Kiolana is an amazing waterman, too, who's my cousin. And Rusty's a four-time world champion. So I just come from a very, the Kiolanas. Oh, wow. That's Uncle Buff. Hell yeah, dude. Beautiful Hawaiian man, yeah? Yeah, I think I've seen him on the pictures of the bronzer at the tanning salon as well. I think – I'll just say this. They're using his name, image, and likeness over there, okay? It's Suntan City. I'll say that fast. He's beautiful, yeah. Dude, that's awesome, bro. Yeah, I always wanted to be with him. But that's kind of – that's the family. And he still lives over there? He does, yeah. Wow. Oh, that's beautiful, man. And, yeah, I just want to do Hawaiians feel like – it seems to me like Hawaiians always feel like a responsibility to uphold their culture kind of or that they're Hawaiian. Like there just seems to be like a certain level of respect that they carry about themselves with that. I think that's true. I think there's a lot of things that have happened to our people that have – it's been very challenging in what's happened and getting our identity back, getting our culture back, getting our language back. So I'm sure there's a lot of things. There's a lot of terror and trauma that's happened to the Hawaiian Islands. Dang. There's a lot. Yeah, I think when you have something beautiful, people want it. Yeah, absolutely. It's so nice over there, dude. Dude, I remember one time I was drowning over there, and I remember being like, where else am I going to drown? It was so nice. I remember looking back at the shoreline. Literally, I was snorkeling, and I wasn't doing well. I was losing. And I remember looking back at the shoreline, and I thought I was going to drown. And I was like, dude, where else are you going to drown? Are you going to drown in a Hampton Inn pool somewhere outside of Jacksonville or something? No, dude. This is where you do it. And so there was almost this crazy moment of peace with just how beautiful it was there. It's a really special place. Where were you at when you were drowning, man? I was off of – I was in Maui. Was there waves? Was it just because of deep water? There were waves, but it was like – You just got a little too carried away and you got too far out maybe? Yeah, I went snorkeling and it was by myself. And bad idea, huh? Yeah, it's bad to do anything. Yeah, go in the water and do that by yourself. Yeah. And that's what I realized. It was fun. It was kind of fun. And I remember I got out there a little bit and I was like, oh, man. And then I would see the fish. But then the water would go down and I would just be almost like trying to not get on the coral or whatever, like being like that. And then we'd go back. It was just like – it just got super scary. and I was further and further out and I started getting really, really spooked. Yeah, well, it was just different rips too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I caught a bad rip. I think, yeah, every surfer, you know, everyone drowns. Have you ever been in a drowning before out there? Very much so. No way. Yeah, I've drowned. And it's just, I mean, it's a beautiful teacher, man. The oceans of, I mean, she's the ultimate teacher. So it sucks. Drowning sucks. Yeah. There's no way about it, yeah. Yeah, RIP, man. You just see your slow death. It sucks. Everything flashes in. You can't move your arms anymore, and you're going down, and you can't breathe. That's the one I used to smoke a lot. I smoke cigars still, but it took me a while to get back to it. But I used to smoke like two packs a day. It was pretty – What? Just love, love, love. Then I tried to slow down. I'd be like, roll a pouch, and then I'd burn a pouch in a day. Just roll them yourself? I just loved tobacco. Damn. I can't believe I was a damn smoker. That's inspiring, actually, dude. You can do anything, people. And that was a hard one to quit. I mean, that's a fair share of shit. But it's like I think smoking was – I couldn't stop from my family. And then when I drowned, someone took my breath. I came out of that water, and that thing died. And, I mean, I tried really hard to stop many times. And I came out, and if I tried to smoke, I'd vomit. Like, part of me just died because it took my breath, and I had to go through it. And then the reason I didn't, I got saved is I actually hit the outer reef because I was over a half a mile offshore. It's just there's two reefs. So I was on the outer reef of Maui and doing some coast paddling. And I hit the reef and it just touched my toe. And I just bubbled down, grabbed the reef and just jumped up and then hit another wave. And I just held onto the reef and waited. I was out there for a while. Dang. Who rescued you? I was with Laird. I was out surfing with Laird. I saw him once at a Whole Foods. Yeah. It sounds on point. Is that on brand? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, and Dave Kalama and my friend Joe Flanagan. Yeah, but it was my leash snapped. I was stuck out in the middle of the ocean, and it was just very windy and took the board, and it was gone. And smoking was done for you? Yeah. Never, never, never smoked again. Damn. Look at you guys over here. Just type quick and get it up. Boom, boom, boom. Yeah, I was looking at your new film. It's called The Wrecking Crew. I'm excited for you to see it. It's funny. I saw it. Oh, you did? Yeah. Oh, thank you. I've seen it, dude. I know the premiere was last night, so sorry I missed that. But no, I saw it on my computer. They sent me a screener of it. Yeah, dude, it's great. And it's so beautiful. It's so nice to be able to just – you feel like you're in Hawaii for a while. Yeah, you know, it's just the movies we grew up with, right? Lethal Weapon, 48 Hour, all these things, buddy cop movies. Yeah. I did a TV show with David Batista. He played my brother in C on Apple. Oh, yeah, and he plays your brother in this. Go on, sorry. Yeah, yeah, and we just got really close, and it's like, you know, in this business when you meet someone you really like, you're like, oh, we should, in the next one, it would be fun to do a comedy instead of covered in blood and us beating each other. And it was – so I had this pitch to him, and now it's been for two decades. One of the first things I ever wrote is a pitch packet and told him. And the next day, he just posted it and put it out there. It went viral. What about you guys doing it together? Yeah, and I attached David Leach to it. And basically, like, this is what we're doing. Do you like it? And everyone freaked out. And my agent's calling me going, like, what are we doing? And like the next morning, I'm like, Dave, I didn't even know that Dave would do that. And Dave just like just did it. I like going like yeah me and you were doing you know twins I mean it just they just put it out there Paternal twins too Yeah And people are like I don know I don know People are like, this is like before and after. Yeah. And so, anyways, and our showrunner, Jonathan Trapper, ended up writing it. And, yeah, it's just a fun movie where we want to do, laugh a little more. And it'll make you cry. Working out the family trauma, you know, that kind of stuff. Yeah. It's never too late. Yeah, there's some sweet stuff in it. The action is really great. I loved it. I mean, it's just a nice, easy – it's an easy movie to watch, and it's just super enjoyable, and it's beautifully shot. It's just like – and it's just in Hawaii. It's just like, oh, if you can't afford to take your wife to Hawaii, take her to see this movie. That's the best pitch. It's not bad. She spent too much money this weekend. Can't quite take her on vacation. The Wrecking Crew, you're welcome. Look. Jason Mola, thanks, bro. Just put a little cocoa butter on her arms and take her to see the wrecking crew. Tell her it's the same thing. Okay. You got to tell her it's the same thing, man. Was there ever a movie role where you liked it kind of so much or the environment that you were at you liked so much that you're like, I wish I could stay here. I wish this was my life kind of? That's an interesting question. Where you just want to stay in that time period or in that place. Yeah. Or even as that person even. I don't think I've – you know, I did this show, Chief of War, that came out last year, and I think it was really cool because it's all about – Is it on Apple TV? It's all about Hawaii, yeah. It's like when they're uniting the kingdoms. It would have been really beautiful to be in Hawaii before the white man arrived and just kind of see that time and place and see what our people are like, our ancestors. It was so special to make that show because, you know, you grow up in Iowa and you watch, like, Last of the Mohicans and Braveheart, and you see all these things like, oh, I would love to see my cult trip. I love samurai movies or Native American movies, and all we had was paintings. You know, my grandparents, they've never seen a movie with us wearing all the regalia and going into the big battles with no metal. So it's just brutal battles. The UFC. to the next level yeah before they had like a shark teeth dude yeah like you're ripping each other apart so um just imagining that or seeing a movie on that scale it took me a long time to make that move that show because you know oh yeah that's beautiful and also as a gay mardi gras vibe as well i'll say that but that's outside and that that's just a joke i think it's very beautiful that you get to even envision something like this. That's crazy, dude. Oh, man. It's crazy to even get to see moments like that. Even just on a movie set or something like that, it must be so bizarre to see moments like that. Have you seen this? You should see just the trailers or something. When you're in some spare time. It's pretty wild. The fight scenes in this are pretty wild. Yeah, that's amazing. Anyway, so that was the first thing I ever created. so I was a co-creator and produced it co-wrote it and directed the finale and started it so that was my big that's my love letter that's beautiful dude and was that special to your dad or special to some of your friends and family from home? I think everyone because all the people I was when I was 19 I hired on Baywatch to make up artists to craft services to your drivers they knew me when I was 19 I'm coming back at 45 at the time 44 and coming back and making something like doing video watch was just kind of shit and then coming back and doing something that's about our people yeah there's a real big honor man for sure it's like I mean that's my ultimate goal I'm kind of done now yeah I'm just gonna do fun fun shit and I want to do comedy like we're gonna do Minecraft with Jack Black again so nice excited to do that thanks buddy sorry about that you're Good, man. When you were doing that show, did you go to parts of the island and learn stuff about Hawaii that you didn't know before? Yes. Yes, but also, like, got to go and just scout and go to places. I've never been to meet uncles and aunties and people who are just – know so much about our culture. Like, we had to – yes. Had to learn – no, we had to do it all. We did it in Alelo, Hawaii. You did it in where? Alelo, Hawaii. So we did it in our native language. Yeah, made of Tongue. So all the other characters in here, I'd say half of the cast, it's all Polynesia. So you've got to understand, like, there's Maori, New Zealand. There's Samoan. There's Tongan. There might have been some Titian. But, like, all of us and Kanaka Maoli, which is us, all these are people who are different, their own languages. They had to learn this ancient language. So, like, everyone in there doing that is, like, it's hard. It was the hardest for me, but I thought it would have been a lot easier, but it was very challenging for me. Yeah, the Tongans are tough, huh? Samoans and Tongans are, yeah. They're all tough. Who's the toughest one now? I mean, I wouldn't fuck with a Tongan. Bring up a Tongan. I wouldn't fuck with a Samoan. I'm good. Pull up a pair of Tongans. I heard you should never have just one. I mean, look at that guy over there. Yeah, there you go. Click on that one. That guy on the right. Oh, my God. That guy is doing something different, huh? You know what? We're all Aloha, so it's nice. We don't have to get in the fight with the Tongan. Yeah, no, I'm never going to. But that's wild. Just Polynesians in general, man. They're just like, oh, it's such a different breed. Dude, you know who I like? Filipinos. They're kind of like the comfortable Polynesians, you know? There you go, yeah. And they're the smiling people, you know? They are. And they're the last people that most people see before they die because a lot of them work in hospice care, which is crazy. When you think about that, imagine you're laying there and you open up a little and it's just some Filipinos, dude. And they're just singing something nice to you. I mean, it sounds nice. That's a portable Hawaii, dude. I just hope my kids are there and they're looking after me. I'm going to put that shit on them. You put me in a home, I'm going to haunt your ass. I'm going to fucking haunt your ass. You put me in a home. Dude. I'm going to have my fans break me out. You think you'd be a good ghost, though, dude? There's another script right there. Me and you old, we'll just do all the old makeup. Yeah. Yeah? Just us and our dying ages in a nursing home. Yeah. Our fans break us out. And they break us out, and then what? I don't know. Yeah. We go to a Comic-Con for the old-time days. Yeah. And you interview them all. 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It's called Busboys. It's about two guys who aren't doing that good, and one of them loses his girlfriend to a waiter at a restaurant. And so we figure if we can become waiters, then everything will be great. That's why you're still going to be the busboy. You're talking about what we were talking about, like professional busboys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've channeled this one. Yeah. People like this is just whimsical. What are you guys doing? Now that this is in me, bitch. You feel me? So, yeah, I definitely channeled that. And David was a busboy, too, in Arizona as well when he was growing up. They wouldn't make me a waiter. That was my last job. Yeah, I was a busboy at two places. I could see that. They wouldn't let me. They were trying to hold me down. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Dude, there's a glass ceiling. Yeah. I never made a waiter. Yeah, it's everywhere. Fuck waiters. Busboys are dope, dude. Busboys are dope, man. Busboys are dope. They're always the coolest. They're going to have the drugs. They're going to have all. They're going to know where the shit's at. They're going to have the drugs. They're going to have the bread. You know what I mean? like busboys are dope. Yeah, who's going to get extra butter? They're in with the dishwasher and like, you know what I mean? Yeah, who's got extra butter? The busboys do. Yeah, for sure. I love salt and pepper. Guess who's got that? Yeah, yeah. Let's go see your waiter do that. No, they're all fucking making more money than you. Yeah, they're all counting. They're usually counting their money somewhere. Not sharing their tips is what they're not doing. Type shit, homie. That's what they're doing, dude. And who's got the extra salt? You know what? I'm going to tip my waitress less and I'm going to slip my busboy more. I haven't been doing that. I'm going to say, where's the fucking busboy at? I'm going to throw the homies or homeettes some fucking loot. It started at the bottom. It's all happened because of Reagan because of trickle-down economics. Who started trickle-down economics? Bring that up. It was Reagan, wasn't it? Give it to the waiters. They'll give it to the busboys. That's not helping. I was just at the nurses' strike. The largest nurses' strike in New York City history is going on right now. Right now? Yeah. And I just came from it a little while ago. And it was awesome. I like strikes because it's like being in a parade, kind of because I'm from New Orleans. So it's like you're definitely partying at a band out there. Yeah, but it's the largest nurses strike that's ever happened in New York City. It's going on right now. Oh, my goodness. See, you can play that real quick. There you go. Play it right there. They're from New Orleans. The band was pretty good. They played – actually, they did Abbey Road. They did his whole album. Really? Which I thought was impressive, dude. Even that one where it's like, bang, bang, Maxwell's silver hammer came down upon his head. Yeah, they even played that one. And they only had three instruments. But, yeah, I loved it. I really enjoyed that. My sister's a nurse, so I was like, oh, this is going on, dude. I'm out there. Now, did I think I would meet some hot nurses? Yeah. But a lot of them are men these days. Which doesn't mean they can't be hot. But, you know, I had a different bedside manner in mind, you know. So, anyway, moving on, Jason. you pervert. Um, so yeah, do you get to points in your career? Cause that is, it is interesting to, to, to, to hear you say where you feel like, um, you have so like some personal achievement or some personal success or something where you kind of feel like, okay, I'm okay. You know, does that make any sense to you? Kind of? Cause we're all trying to, like, we're all trying to, like, everyone's trying to feel like, you know, we all want to feel some sort of, a lot of people want to feel some sort of success. Right. I mean, I noticed in my own life, what, what makes me feel like okay i'm i'm i'm okay for me you know oh i mean it's a it's a very calm it's a complex i mean there's many things i'm going through and maybe that's just my age or like you know i've been like you were saying trying to accomplish get to a certain place and uh just because you, just because even in those worst times and like maybe not doing the things I really truly want to be doing, but I'm doing it to put food on the table. And then I get to the place where I'm actually like, wow, I'm producing, writing, doing all these things. And this is my dream come true. Why am I, why was I happier when I was in the fucking hole? Why was I happier back then? Is it just because it's nostalgic? Is it, I mean, why? Was it because I'm still hunting and I'm hungry? I mean, I got to this place where I considered, like, well, I don't have any more, per se, dreams as an actor. Like, I never thought I'd get this far in the first place. You know what I mean? Yeah. The biggest dream to me was to, like, make a TV show or movie for my people, make a real, true, authentic story. Like, I did that. And the comic book I always read when I was a kid, and I'm fucking playing them. Yeah. And then, like, the video game that I fucking loved, I'm fucking playing him too and it's like all these things are great and then sometimes it's but you're not why do you not feel does that happen you think even like in career like you had such a great career does it happen even in careers like yours like do you think that's just a human thing I guess it's just a human thing yeah yeah but I just like I just try to have gratitude in all of it man because you know I have so many friends that are maybe could be ill, sick, dying, and just so, I mean, I'm kind of the kind of person, like, pretty high energy, and I'm really, really generally happy. I'm like Christmas morning every morning. I'm pretty fucking happy. I don't need coffee. I'm jazzed. Dang. And so I love morning. I love being up, and I don't necessarily sleep that much, so I'll probably die earlier. Yeah. But my days are filled. Yeah. They're going to be filled with freaking Filipinos as well, dude. That's for sure. if this is the rate you're going to have. But I just, I can't sit still. And I think if I don't have those things, I was pretty self-destructive if I wasn't creating and constantly doing stuff. So I think that's what gives me, like, I don't necessarily think there's, I measure it by, oh, because I'm in this movie or this and this and that. I'm actually, like, there's these little smaller things I love doing. Staying busy. Yeah, but it's, like, the things I really, truly love. Like, I'm an environmentalist at heart. So there's, you know, I work as much as I can with different, just, it's all the things that the little small things that probably no one gives a shit about that i give about and it's like trying to do those things that i really love and it's not about being necessarily seen but trying to help in certain things that i love and care about yeah do you think like a lot of that stuff comes back to you more like once you've kind of gotten a certain level or once you kind of because life just kind of gets busy like in your 30s and 40s life gets busy right and especially if you have a busy career like yours or a career we have to travel a lot and it varies from place to place, location to location. I find that it just gets hard to focus on some of the smaller things that are more important to me sometimes. Is it easier? Do you feel like it's easier now in your career to be able to have more time for those types of things? I don't have any time for those things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a hard time saying no. So I say yes to everything and I work a lot. So if someone comes in and I'm fully loaded, I'm like, yeah, I can't not say yes. And so I don't know. Here's the thing. I'm doing everything I love to do. Right. So I don't ever think of it as work. I'm just doing things I love to do. And so that's maybe the biggest honor of it all. And I think that's why I want my kids now. They look at me like, oh, my dad does what he loves to do, which maybe I didn't earlier in my life. it was just like make sure i can put it was very worrisome earlier because like i said i wasn't on the best shows yeah yeah people were like oh why don't you go do that movie or that i'm like i didn't have an agent i couldn't get called like i couldn't get those things and so now i'm in a good place but i'm like oh i'm making it for lost time i'm like there's so many things i want to do in this life and so it's a bit crammed in but i'm i'm in i've i'm i'm kind of doing everything i love yeah i wouldn't say i'm taking care of myself the best but i'm like that's something's got to give I'm like, fuck, that's why I'm this big. Burn this bitch down. Well, if it's not, if those are muscles. Filipinos, here we go. Yeah, here we go, dude. Fire up the feely truck, huh? Back them up, dude. Let them in the room. But what about you? I mean, like, you're just blown up in your time. I mean, how does it feel to you? Do you? I think this year I started just recently started thinking of having a little bit more like, okay, I think everything will be okay. like i'll be able to eat and have a roof over my head for the rest of my life so i have a little bit more semblance of like okay what does um things look like for like those around me what are some other things that i can put my time into like i've been touring mostly for probably about 17 years for probably half the weeks you know and so um this year i don't have any tour dates and so it's nice to like be like oh what does this look like like i had like two months with no three months with no tour dates and i was like this is crazy what is this yeah so but there's still like a lot of podcasting and there's still a ton of work to do with this but it's not like i have to travel as much so sometimes for the first time it feels like my spirit even can be in like one place where it can like gather its thoughts yeah you know um i feel like i've just been playing hide and go seek with myself for a long time just even geographically uh so having some more um just having some more like solace and being in one spot has really kind of helped me just to start to get a look around me. Do you go stir crazy? Because we're such gypsy. We have to, you know, our careers are a little bit, but sometimes that's a trap for me. I know, but you're like, Arnie, I'm like, oh my god, I would love to get some rest. Then you get like rest for a solid week and you're like, I gotta get the fuck out of here. I gotta get the fuck out of this rest. I was like, my ass hurts, my back hurts. And you're in a rest area? yeah along the interstate you're like this is insane like do you get that where you're just like oh man i got i gotta get out oh for sure but i think sometimes i gotta be careful because that's a trap man that's just the devil trying to get me back do you work with that in sobriety like is that is like a thing you have to yeah i go to a i go to a meetings and i go to that stuff it's been like you know i've been in and out of sobriety for 10 years probably mostly in and so that's been good so um yeah i like it just because otherwise yeah i just can't hang like i'll do too much of The cocaine To be honest I don do too much of it And so I just don want to be Around it I even walk in this look straight at the ground and see if anybody dropped it sometimes outside I'll fucking run right into something. What was that? Not an eight ball. I just peeped this whole block. But yeah, man, dude, I'll tell you this crazy story. So one time my friend and I and I didn't even know anything about drugs. My friend and I are going to my apartment. He was staying in town. He was staying in town. He's getting out of the taxi. He dropped a little thing of cocaine into the taxi. When I'm getting out, I just see it on the thing. I pick it up and put it in my pocket. So he didn't tell me that he had ever done cocaine and he'd been doing it, but he didn't tell me. Right. And I just thought he was kind of itchy or whatever, you know, cause it was spring. And so we go in my apartment. He's like, Hey man, will you help me look for something? And I'm like, yeah, what is it? And he like wouldn't tell me what it was. And I'm like, that doesn't make any sense but yeah i'll help you you know so me and him are walking around looking for something that i don't know what it is okay and then i kept sneaking off and doing the cocaine right so dude now at one point he gave up and went to sleep i'm walking around my apartment looking everywhere for something and it was it was the drugs i was doing absolute insanity dude absolute insanity bro so yeah i mean you just people can get lost out there um but yeah dude do you ever read that miles davis you ever read miles davis's uh biography uh-uh this is great part where he was up in harlem and you know at the time he's at the peak of his career he had this lamborghini let's just say it's like bright yellow it snows out it's snowing outside and he comes up to this spot and he's in harlem gets out goes in and he's coming back out and he gets back in the car and he's got some drugs comes back out gets in the car looks down and he's like fuck he like drugs are all the coke is all over the floor and he's fucking freaking out and then he thinks he can get busted by the cops so he just gets out goes back in hides in his fucking closet waits it out for a couple hours sweating it out and he's on the drugs yeah comes back out hours later car's still there because they know it's miles davis opened up the door and all the drugs are gone. And he like clicks and he's like, it was fucking snow on his shoes. When he got in and like totally lost his mind, like he thought he spilled all the I was like, that's a good time. Yeah. That was a pro story. And he didn't drive, which is the best part. That's the best part. Good job, Miles. October 21st, 1972. Miles Davis, never mind, wrecked his coke filled Mayura and broke both of his legs. So he took it for one lap. Jim Glickenhaus was the first person unseen, Miles was in the hospital for a long time and didn't play for almost a year. Dang. That'll make you quit doing drugs right there. That'll make you quit smoking, dude. That's his drowning near the reef right there. Dang. Dude, but if my legs were broken, I could still do cocaine, I think. And I hate to say that. And don't say that to your kids. but um what's uh so now you have children i've had it man yeah did you collect some along the way or did i didn't mean that but did you like did you have a family that you had planned or was it just kind of like did you sort of have children no uh yeah no i was i was married and kids yep oh nice man was it cool being a father like was that like a scary thing for you like um it's actually funny he's he's just got into oh yeah beautiful kids he just got into acting he's i I mean, they've been acting and doing a little place. Oh, that's a cool name. Nikoa Wolf. But he's going to be in Dune with me. Dune? Yeah, he's Leto Jr. Dang. So he auditioned on his own and got it and he killed it. Was he geeked? I mean, those guys grew up watching me. You know, he was sitting on Affleck's lap and she's sitting with Gal. And, you know, we're doing Justice League. They were like six and eight. Wow. I mean, Justice League, they grew up on set with me. So it's so much of the world. Yeah, I mean, he was in a Batman outfit for at least five years. Like, the kid loves all that and loved Dune. And so, yeah, my babies are low as a singer. So she wants to continue in music and Wolf wants to do acting. Which I was very – it's just such a gnarly business. Yeah. I'm like, go be a doctor. Use your brain. Yeah, and go pay these nurses, Doc. Actually, it's the hospitals that I'm paying them. But, yeah, dude, that's got to be interesting if your kid wants to go down that road. But then you'll have a lot of experience, too, and you'll be there to help him be supportive in that way. Yeah, yeah. And he's doing it. He's young, so he can try it out. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Guide him. You have kids? No, I don't have any kids yet. I want to get some kids. I want to – sorry. I would like to have children. I'm not trying to get some kids. No, I want all kids to be free. I don't know them. Oh, man. I don't want to know them. That's my rule. If I don't know kids, I don't want to know them. People are like, hey, I want you to shoot my kids. I'm like, fuck no. I don't want to meet your kids, dude. People are perverts, man. These politicians. Anyway, what else are we talking about? You got a special lady you're with right now? No, I don't. That's another thing. You're a free bird right now, too? What's that? You're a free bird? Free bird, yeah. But I would like to have a spouse. I would like to have a woman spouse, too. and I would like to, yeah, I would like to have that, man. So it'll happen. It's just like, you know, I just got to, I think for one, two, I've just been going all the time. It was like, I'd be like, I'd be like dating somebody and I'd be out of town for a while and you come back and you're like, oh shit, I forgot about this. And not in a bad way. It's just like my brain was somewhere else. It's hard for me to focus on stuff sometimes. So I think I just feel like more of that semblance of like, okay, now this maybe could be more manageable, but I got to change some of my own ways and stuff like that a little bit too and be more purposeful. I think about just different prayer and different things like that overall. You come from a big family? You got brothers, sisters? Yeah, I got three siblings, and one of them is married. Your baby? I'm the middle, one of the middle kids, two boys and two girls. So we got a good little group. But, yeah, nobody in my family can swim that good though. No? Yeah, land people. If you need us We'll be on the land That's our motto dude That's our family motto I'm going to get it tattooed on my brother's back When you're in New Orleans What kind of sports are you into? Basketball Dude is it true that they have the team called the Tall Blacks Is that true? The basketball team in New Zealand is called the Tall Blacks That's freaking amazing dude We got In New Orleans we have Some of the players are kind of thick over there So we got the round browns over there. That's our team. No offense, Zion Williamson, but his weight does fluctuate. And he's cost our city a lot of money. But what is this? Oh, that's the New Zealand All Blacks? I don't know. This is a bunch of Ben Simmonses. They got maybe one and a half brothers on this team, dude. But, hey, that's awesome, though. Good for them. You a big basketball fan? I like college football. is probably my favorite. College football. Who's your team? I'm a Tennessee and a LSU guy. Yeah. So those are my squads. What about you? I don't do college football that much. You didn't get into it with your size? I'm sure they were like, get out of here. I was hockey. Really? Yeah. You were goalie? Soccer. No, I was center. Nah. I love soccer too, man. I was playing soccer. But then I was a skateboarder. You know what I mean? Like they all want you to get into wrestling. Yeah, that's weird. That's weird. But if you were a surfer, that makes sense. Yeah. I just grew up skating. I wasn't always this big. I mean, like, you know, but that's what I was doing when I was little and took that into high school. But I love skateboarding. And then surprisingly, my main love is rock climbing. Yeah. So I travel the world with rock climbing, and that was kind of my thing. Did you ever go rock climbing with? Sharma. Jared Leto? No. Oh, I mean, I've seen him out when we've been climbing. He loves it. He does. He climbs a lot with Honnold. Honnold. Oh, Alex Honnold? Yeah. Oh, cool. Yeah, he climbs a lot with him. They do like El Cap'n all kind of stuff together. He took me to a party here one time. I just remember it in New York. And everybody was kind of dressed like they look like different birds and stuff. It was pretty crazy. And there was no air conditioning in the place. It was like fancy. It was bizarre, but it was what you'd expect out of him. Yeah, that's people out on the rock right there. Yeah, rock climbing is pretty amazing, isn't it? I love it. What makes you love it so much? Well, it's something I did when I was little. It's the first moment. Like, my mom took me climbing in South Dakota, and I just, when I touched a rock and just moved on it, it just felt like I'm probably better at climbing than I am at walking. Like, it's just, my body just feels, it's just something that you connect with that you really enjoy. Yeah. But I love just the fear and the problem solving and, like, the fear of it all. Because, like, we'll do, like, deep water soloing now in Mallorca, and you, like, climb up, and then you fall down in the water. But it's just, like, the challenge of, like, I love climbing stuff when I was a kid. It's like, how do you not let, I love climbing trees. I love just climbing. So I don't know. I'm a fucking gorilla. I don't know what to say. Yeah. Being in the dirt. And I just enjoy taking my kids. My kids do it. And it just keeps us out in nature. Something to do. I guess it'd be like fishing or hunting for other people. But like being in nature. Oh, yeah. And going to do adventures. And, you know, setting out to do something and accomplishing it. But also the other thing, too, is I think I'm very, very much. and i'm not diagnosed adhd but i'm just i'm my there's a lot of things going on and i feel like when i ride motorcycles and i go rock climbing it's just like you can't do anything else but be there so that's just like a little bit of my therapy or meditation is like that's when everything just gets real clean and clear makes you focus in yeah yeah what you get you know everyone gets high on that or loves that you know i mean when you can really mind body spirit connects and you Oh, yeah. Flowing something, that's what you, you know. Oh, yeah, when you're zipping down on a freaking motorcycle. 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What made you and Dave Bautista become such friends, do you think? Well, we do a lot of action. And generally there's not a lot of big guys that are good actors and do action. It's kind of a rare thing to have all of them. And I think Dave is a phenomenal actor, and I really wanted to fight him and see. And I was like, dude, I would love to go toe-to-toe with him. and it's just kind of like yeah i respect him and i and and then when we met we're very different but like super you know um there's no ego there's no like we're very supportive of each other we understand the story like it's just a wonderful when you find an acting partner that you just you're there for the story instead of like your career you're a lot of guys a lot of famous dudes can't bleed or can't get hurt. I'm like, fuck, I die in everything. My kids beg me not to die anymore. I'm like, that's how you fucking eat. I'm like, you're not going to die again. I'm like, everything. That's how you have your life. So, I'm not afraid to do all that kind of stuff and bleed. And I think Dave likes to get down and dirty too. But he's just a really great guy. The reason why we want to do it again is because it's just a good working relationship yeah yeah his acting is great yeah i saw him in blade runner and i just thought he was he was phenomenal and it's so subtle he's very just like the opposite of me i couldn't be subtle if he tried like it's just i thought you did a great job in this movie man thanks bud yeah thank you i don't it's i don't know if i didn't pay attention i guess it's like if you're not paying attention if you don't if you're not noticing the acting then it's great right isn't that kind of usually the usual kind of isn't that usually kind of the thought yeah yeah if it's not tripping you up yeah do you do you feel like it's gotten easier to act over time like do you start to just understand it better does it become a little bit more like a muscle what is that like i just think i'm getting i'm getting uh you know chances to do it now like i've never even been in a rom-com you know like my first comedy was last year with with with jack black doing minecraft so like you know it's just now finally catching on that i can do other stuff yeah i'm not just getting my ass kicked and dying all the time yeah you're not just a bouncer who's freaking going to the salon or whatever yeah i think after like game of thrones like people didn't know what to do with me so it's like he didn't speak english so they're like what the fuck do you do with drogo we're like who are we gonna put is that in that rom-com drogo is i mean he's handsome like like let's let's get that motherfucker i don't i hope he speaks english he's french and i mean like what are you gonna so this is hilarious that's great um have you ever get to spend any time with jack i haven't gotten to spend any time with him man so funny no he's just just like the greatest human man like you just would love just being with him he's so much fun oh that's great and it's just like he's that all the time you go you know after work we go eat together like i just like people who they don't they don't act one way and then you know and then there's someone different you know like i'm just i wear my heart on my sleeve this is exactly who i am is what you're gonna get here we are yeah um do you ever get people that confuse you for people a lot because i'll have people come up to me sometimes uh and they think i'm tony caballero um do you get people like that sometimes i think or even like this like if you walked in downstairs somebody might think you're joaquin phoenix downstairs um because how he did that letterman Remember? Pull up Joaquin Phoenix on Letterman that time. What? See if we're close or not. Yeah. Oh, that's pretty much it, bro. There's my twin brother right there, dude. If you were Joaquin Phoenix today this whole time. Bro, put these on. If you tell me you're Joaquin Phoenix, bro, it's going to get crazy in here. Oh, wow, huh? I'm fucking blind. Yeah. Oh, yeah, dude. It is. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'll wear this so I can see. There's a prescription. Yeah, no, I wear glasses. Dude, I wear glasses. Mine are downstairs. My eyes are going bad. I just can't do contacts. I can't put them in, man. I'm not putting a little thing like that in my eye, like a little sight painting. Would you ever get the little surgery? I don't think I would. I don't want somebody going in my eye. I don't want that. I'm laying there like some pedophile. I don't think you look like that guy. But do you know who the dancing outlaw is? That guy that does that, the Tennessee two-step guy? Yeah. There you are. Oh, that guy. What's his name? Jessica White? Bro. Dude, you could totally play Jessica White. You could. You, dude, not me. I thought you were saying you look like him. No, man. Pull up the one where he's got no beard. That one in the middle. Dude, that's you for days. What are you talking about? Oh, God. Listen, I said nice things about him. I know, dude. This guy. No, you don't get Jessica White? this guy is a fucking listening to methadone all day which is a band um but it's only yeah i'm joking okay all right um my bad no that's okay is there any recent uh is there a recent interview with jessica why did he pass away he passed away damn you should listen to the way he talks but it's probably because you guys just because you sound familiar that's him no i don't look like he looks like hunter s thompson right there yeah that is not No, it's not. No. Wow. He's dead now. That's Kid Rock. You ever interview Kid Rock? Yeah, he lives in Nashville. That'd be easy then. I see him there all the time. Oh, he does. He's got to be club. Yeah, he has a club. And he has a crazy house there. He built like a replica of the White House up on this hill there. No shit. It's insane. Wow. It's insane. And he collects a lot of cool stuff. Bob is his real name, but he's a super interesting guy. And he's really nice too. That's his house right there I think Holy shit It's crazy bro And it got a lot of Kid Rock stuff in it Nobody a bigger fan of Kid Rock Than Kid Rock dude I feel like Has he built built has he played he doing new albums uh yeah he still does stuff he has a rock the country uh okay pull that up i think it's called rock the country that just came out a tour a new tour that just came out that ella langley's gonna be on jason aldean um williams hank williams there you go kid rock jason aldean Blake Shelton, Jelly Roll Creed. Dude, I could see you play Scott Stapp in like a biopic or biopic, whatever they call it. That's you getting me back at that, Jessica White. Yeah. I deserved it. I apologize. Dude, you know what? I used to love Soundgarden, dude. Of course. Yeah, man. What a legend. And I feel. Was that them? Shit. Maybe I don't know who they are. These are the eyes of disarray. Would you even care? And I'm feeling Oh, Stone Temple Pilots Dude, Stone Temple Pilots was good, bro What's the first concert you ever went to? What the Iowa State Fair, what the fuck is his name? He does bourbon, one scotch and beer Jesus Christ, I'm blanking on his name Trace Adkins, maybe? No God damn it it's okay bad at the bone but yeah george so good yeah one beer one scotch one beer i'll stay fair baby dude how nice is that thing i'll say fair yeah it's amazing i've been in years funnel cake yeah but i'm not driving across town for some for a funnel cake what like but i guess that one would be the best because you'd have all the animals you'd have all the crafts yeah and the big rides i had a good time there i was growing up yeah i guess people did i couldn't i I couldn't walk around there now. I'd be fucking screwed. There's no way. Yeah. You'd have to hide. You'd have to dress up like something. Those days are over, man. But it's your size. Do you have to disguise yourself as something unique if you're out in the public? There's no way I'm going to hide. You could hide. I can't hide. I mean, I'm in the flannel and the hat. It's about as hiding as it gets. If you've got a special outfit. I mean, you mean if I go out as Boba Fett or like fucking the helmet on, like Iron Man? I don't know, dude. I mean, I could hide if I had a helmet on, yeah. Yeah, if you wore like a football helmet or something. I was in Jordan one time. We were shooting Dune, and I wanted to go see Petra. And I got all wrapped up, and it was great because I got to walk through there. There's tons of tourists. And so I did the whole wrap and everything's on. But it was hot, and this little bit of my triangles are sticking out. And we're walking through, and this girl is like a season. And she goes, and I'm like, but this fucking thing gets me in trouble more than anything, man. Because is that a, is that like a Hawaiian tattoo? Yeah, this is basically tapped on. And I have one that goes on my head. It goes right through there. And how do people earn? Do you earn them, or how do you get it? This is like a family crest. I think I put it like that. It's like the guardian. This is the shark, and this is for protection. Those are the Ije, the spear. This is the mono, the shark. so basically when I'm in the water and we're snorkeling the shark knows to go to you because you're white and I'm Hawaiian so it's like this is what just lets them know that's fair I gotta get something you just roll with me I'll be like I'll point it somewhere else I'll be on your back point out the directions that way have you ever seen any sharks I went swimming with sharks one time in South Africa we're in a cage did you see a big gray white Oh, yeah. One came and got – so there were these two round cages off the boat. And since the edge of the boat is like this and you have two circles, there's a space in between the cages right up against the boat because it's two circles. And one of the sharks got stuck right in there and he was absolutely going apeshit. And then another one came up and put his snout like in the cage. And I got to touch the top of it, pat him on the head a little bit. Pretty cool. Yep. That old Doberman touch I put on him. Just two taps him too. Did you like South Africa? Oh, dude, it's the most beautiful place that I've been. Yeah. You know, is there a place you've been that really makes you feel like this is really something special? I just got back from Guatemala. I went there with my lady. Oh, nice. She's from Guatemala. That was my first time. So we went to like, we got to go see the pyramids, which is like the largest pyramids in the world. Bring them up. My father's from Nicaragua. Really? Yeah, which is neighbors to Guatemala, I think. Is it in Central America? Yep. Ooh, that thing's nice. I'm surprised you don't live in one of those. Because people think you do, dude. Tikal, the one down there. Yeah, Tikal, the one that's there, right, that one. Pretty spectacular. And the one to the left. Food, culture, just so rich. Wow. How long was y'all's trip for? Antigua. I went to Antigua. Antigua was just like I've never seen streets like that. We were there for like two weeks. Sorry, two weeks. Seeing family. Getting the parents and the family. Yeah. See if they like me, you know. The fucking gringos coming in. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But you weren't the gringo, though. I was. To them, huh? Yeah. Wow. Dude, it's good. I got white blood in me. It's good. Yeah, that's a good point. It's the German blood, yeah? Yeah, yeah. Don't bring that fucking. In Irish. Don't bring that honky blood around here, whitey. That's the kind of shit that I hear all the time. But they love me. They did? Yeah, I got two thumbs up. Did you get a written review or how did, like on the plane ride home, she read? I could see it in their eyes. Yeah. And I could feel the temperature. The aunties were cool with it. The nieces and nephews love me. The dad's amazing. I mean, I love her dad. We went to go see him play. He's a musician? He's probably one of the biggest Latin musicians of all time. Really? Yeah, Ricardo Arjona. Let's bring up a picture of this man. He's actually, he's got. This might be your father-in-law. Yeah, he's doing. Or your stepdad. Time Square, two nights in a row. Ricardo Arjona. Ricardo Arjona, yeah. Seca is his new tour. Seca? Yeah. He's skinny. Ooh, Ricardo Alana. Yeah. God, I want to be something like that. He kind of looks like my old brother, right? You and him? A little bit, right? Oh, yeah. You can see it. That's what's up. If I were Latin. Yeah. But I'm not, I'm Hawaiian. And he's probably the biggest Guatemalan in history. He's very tall? He's like 6'5". No way. You can't even tell from this photo. I know. They should say that on the poster. First of all, they just have a poster that says, hey, come see a 6'5 Guatemalan. Bro, he's – Dude, I paid $40 to go over and see that. He's got two nights in a row at Times Square. I think he'll be playing Nashville too, bro. Really? Yeah. Dude, if he is, I'll make sure to go and watch him. Yeah. I'll take a Latin – I'll take a Spanish girl out there on a date. You're definitely going to meet some Spanish nurses. That's the place to go. Yeah. How do you say nurse in Spanish? Bring that up for me, fellas. Infermera. Infermera? Ooh, si. Infermera. Infermera. Infermera. That's what I'm going to say. That's where it's at for you. Yeah. They take care of you, love you. That's what I'm saying, dude. Yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah, there were ages when I was like, yeah, I'm going to get, oh, I want to find a model or something. And now it's like, and I'm getting older. I'll take a nurse. You've got all the models. You know what I'm saying? I don't know about that. But I just have like, yeah, I just you got to think ahead, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if models are going to take care of you, but nurse take care of you. No, a model's not going to take care of you, dude. And she's not going to feed you anything because she doesn't need anything. What do you do? Just both sit there and suck on an empty bottle together? And she's lazy anyway, probably. Anyway, sorry. What about this guitar, dude? I saw you brought this in. Well, yeah, because we were both tired. I was going to take a little nap because I didn't want to suck on your show. I appreciate that, man. Yes. I'm probably like a solid six right now. I'm normally a tan. But we had the premiere before I came to Theo Vaughn, which was a big accident. So anyways, I was downstairs at Chelsea Guitars. I found this at 59. It kind of went like got a little bit of that watermelon color to it. Yeah, it's beautiful. It's usually cherry, right? Yeah. And then it fades because of that paint that used back then. But it didn't have the original pot, so it was kind of cheap. and then I'll put some new pickups in it and it'll be back to new. Are you a collector of guitars? I am. I'm a big fan. I got a band. We're going to go play Dubai here on the 28th. And look, too. Really? I forgot to show you. Yeah. I was in Dubai. Sorry about that, brother. No, I was in Qatar, actually. Signed by Chuck Berry. Yeah, they have all the guitars signed on there. Who is it? Chuck Berry. The guy that was just up on the... That's signed by Chuck Berry, dude? Oh, that's him. See, there's a guitar. Johnny B. Goode. There you go. He used to carry his guitar in a roadside. He's between the three by the railroad track. I loved him, dude. We used to listen to his tape all the time. I had his cassette tape when I was young. Actually, it might be a good idea. My son loves Chuck Berry. I might do him right. When he turns 18, maybe I'll give him this guitar. Just let him play it. You keep it. he just booked a role in a movie next to you. He's doing fine. My love language is presents. You can get his own stuff now. Are you? I am, man. Oh, that's pretty cool. I heard that you were working with a water company. Is that true? I started this company called Mononalu. Mononalu? Mononalu. Started eight years ago. I was on a flight and you're flying over on the plane and you see a Coca-Cola in aluminum can, you got beer in aluminum can, you got sparkling water in aluminum can, and they give you those little shitty Dasani water bottles with a cap, you know, the label, and then there's like three different types of plastic on it that we can't recycle. It just goes into our land, it goes into our landfills, and I'm a father, I don't want to see plastic, we don't need single-use plastic. Generally, I carry my own water bottle when I go to the airport, you fill it up. Eight years ago, they didn't even make, they didn't even have aluminum for water. So, I went to Ball, people who make those cans and I went to the aluminum company I said I'm going to make a water bottle with you a water out of aluminum cans and they're like we're not a we're not a a water company I was like well you are now I'm awful man let's do this so we set out to do it and then we ended up making the first like screw can it went back on so we made modern aloe And then it changed. Well, now we put our movie on there. Oh, great. We put the labels on there. But see how it's got Mononalo print on the top? And so once we kind of stopped single-use plastic and now – because at the time I went to Dasani and I went to the blue and the red guy, Coke and Pepsi. I was like, would you do this? Would you make the aluminum? They're like, it doesn't make sense to us because it's easier to do plastic. But anything that's in plastic, it's just leaching in there. It's just poison, man. You don't want to be drinking out of plastic bottles, man. Yeah, that's what I think about a lot of times, especially now with people talking about all the bad stuff that's in our food and our water. It's become such a talking point right now. Yeah, I saw a lot about how do you find water that isn't because most of the water is in plastic. And even if you look up what's the best water that doesn't have plastics in it, they won't even really tell you. It's all these kind of gimmick videos that lead you to buy certain things, usually to buy water purifiers and stuff. But I mean the idea is just to go – so now we kind of change it now that they are making those. we made a circular system so we're now on an hollow powered by boomerang and it's actually it's pretty cool man like the idea is to be in starting with hawaii mainly is to be like in hospitality so you're in hotels hospitals schools where you imagine just going to your room and you got a crate like a milk crate and there's all your water in there and you drink it and you put it back and then down in the basement there's a machine it's a circular system it sterilizes it fills it with your natural local water source and puts the minerals back into it and cleans it and mixes it so it's fresh water. It's not packaged up. There's no emissions. It's not sitting in some crate in some warehouse in stagnant dead water. It's fresh water always. And if there was a COVID or anything like that, each hotel would still operate. The water still operates, right? So you can still have fresh water, and it's just bottled up. Think of it as like you go into a restaurant, You eat with their plates and their fork, and you're done. You leave. You come back. You're not going to take the shit home. It's just a container for it. And so it's constantly reusable and recyclable, so you're cutting out waste. Now the idea is just to cut waste because even when you're having the aluminum bottles, you've still got to recycle those. And so the idea is just to either – if you're not carrying your own stuff, it's pretty cool that you can go to a hotel and you know that it's – not only are you not doing waste, it's getting recycled, so it's a full circular system. That's incredible, man. Just to kind of get rid of the single, I mean, just to call it shit down, because it's just absolutely ridiculous. The idea of, like, taking shitty water, putting it in plastic bottles, shipping it to a place like Hawaii, which has the best water in the world. We drink it, and then the shit ends up in our ocean or a landfill. So it's the dumbest thing in the world. I'm going to try to do that in Hawaii first. So, I mean, obviously, we're self-contained, playing at Island Earth. We didn't need anyone. We were self-contained at one time. So if we can just do that with all our tourism and people come from all over the world, get married, they get to see what they're doing in each hotel. So we have four, see all different hotels, four seasons and Twin Fin, all these different places where it'll have their it'll have their label on it. So it's still all there. So their advertising is for them. It's just we're trying to stop the waste. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. When I even think about just how many bottles I like, I probably drink seven bottles of water a day. So that's seven empty bottles. Like, that's just me. That's ridiculous. Oh, bro, it's just the most archaic thing that we're drinking out of fucking plastic bottles. But I mean, so we're doing it in the business side, and eventually we'll try to get it where we'll have depots for it. But I mean, the idea is to get people doing it because in every school, kids can be doing this. I like the idea, too, that you can have your thing at home that you could just – that would then be able to refill it. I think that's pretty novel. Yeah. Thanks, buddy. Yeah, it's Mananala Powered by Boomerang. You can check it out. And that's the goal is to, you know, just another thing to try to fix in a very broken world. And we don't need that pollution in our oceans. Aquaman, you heard it. You heard it, man. Have you ever been a lifeguard or not? Yeah, that's why my whole family are watermen. Yeah, they're all lifeguards, yeah. I went to junior lifeguards my whole life when I was growing up. Dang, that's like, I wish I could be a lifeguard when I was young. It's pretty cool when you save someone's life. You saved a person's life before. You did? In the ocean, yeah. Yeah, and when you do junior life cards, it's really cool to really take your time, things slow down. I'm sure it's probably like a firefighter. I'd panic in a fire, but I think if I saw so many of them I practiced, most people go, oh, shit, and then they freak out, whereas the natural calm kind of comes over you, and you just assess the whole situation so you can both get out alive. You understand the rip. You understand what the ocean's doing. And you had to save somebody? Yeah. Was that in Hawaii? Yeah. Wow. But, I mean, it's just, like I said, I've been many times, like, drowned. I mean, you get caught in a rip. Yes. It's taking you out. You're not going to beat the ocean. And you can literally be, I mean, I've been at Pipeline, a leash snapped, and I'm literally eight feet from the shore, but it's like a river going by, and you're swimming, trying to get in, like, it's eight feet, and you're just getting burnt out. Yeah. And you're like, there are cameras everywhere. There are people right there I could yell for help, and I look like an idiot. I'm going to drown in eight feet of water. Yeah. And the current's so, it's just, the undertow's just pulling your feet out, and it's going to exhaust you. And it generally has got to go with it. It's going to take you out to sea, and it'll dump you back in. But everyone drowns like that. It's just, you've got to watch out for the rips. They'll go jumping into the fucking ocean. And then if you see a sign, don't go in. That's what, I mean, don't be stupid. You're like the Yogi Bear of the ocean, kind of. Remember him? Oh, I do. and put out those fires, kids. Yeah, dude, put them out. You know what I'm saying? I know, he was so adamant. He was talking to me the other day. I built a fire, and I was like, everything's green around here. What, Yogi was? Yeah, in my head, because Yogi were psychos. But I was like, listen, I could dump out. Oh, Smokey the Bear, dude. Sorry. Who did I say? Who's Yogi Bear? Yogi Bear is the picking basket. Oh, dude, he's starting the fires then. God, he's probably on Suboxone or whatever by now. Oh, yeah, he's not doing well. I think he was a stepdad, too. You can tell by that outfit. You can tell by that outfit. He was definitely trying to meet a lady that already had kids probably, too. Not like the Bernstein Bear where he was locked in. Yeah, yeah. He was just a dumb dad. That guy was a family man. He was. He was. Yeah, Bernstein was a family man. I love me some Bernstein. God, they were good. Especially like the fall issues. I always got snuggled down when I read those ones. Remember there was that one scary book where there was a fire? Yeah. And people were like, no. No fires in the Berenstain Bears. And people flipped out and shit. Oh, really? Yeah, dude. People just cannot handle real shit. That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. Was there a time in a movie where you were training for something and it was like one of the toughest things you ever had to actually train for? Or does it never go that far with training? yeah i mean training for training for aquaman was pretty was pretty challenging um i'd have to say maybe the yeah i'd say probably aquaman's probably the hardest i've ever had to train i'm not a very like i'm not like a gym rat i just like to do things rock climbing you know go surfing and things like that, but actually you do that for a roll. I don't necessarily like – You're not in there getting pumped every day like a maniac or taking SARMs or whatever. No, I just want to do the things I love to do. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm – You're not like some SUPS monkey that's over there at GNC every day or something. Supplements guy. Yeah. I don't even do like shakes. Like creatine, all that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I like to eat food. Damn. That's what I like to eat. Yeah. I'm Hawaiian. Dude, yeah. You got to get fat when you get older. Yeah. I'm definitely going that way. Hell, yeah. I can't wait to get fat, dude. I'm trying not to, baby, but. As soon as I get married, I'm getting fat. And then I'm getting divorced, too. I can't wait to get divorced. What else? So people should go see The Wrecking Crew. It's a great film. It's fun. Yeah, it's good. Actually, it's feel good. You get to go to Hawaii. You know, if you can't make it there, put on The Wrecking Crew. Yeah. Let me and Dave take care of you. Yeah. Yeah. Work out some trauma in your family. Open up a can of dull pineapple for your lady. And put on the wrecking crew. Yeah. It's almost the same thing. Some shaved coconut. Yeah. You know what I mean? Some mounds. Oh, dude. Bust out a couple of those. My dad used to give us mounds sometimes when we were good. Not a lot then, huh? Not a lot. Not a lot of mounds. Yeah, dude. Thanks so much for taking time. I know you had a long day, man. I know it's kind of a pain in the ass. It's not, man. I don't do podcasts that much because I always get in trouble. So you're my second, and it was wonderful. And, dude, it's awesome to meet you, man. Yeah, it's a pleasure, man. Thanks for all the awesome entertainment. And, yeah, thanks for just sitting and sharing some of your experiences and story with me. You know, there's one thing, too. You know, the thing that you have with, oh, my goodness, David Spade. When we were at the 50s SNL. He was there. Yeah, so I saw him when we were there. My daughter is like a massive, massive fan of Brooklyn Nine-Nine. And so Andy Samberg's like her dude she loves the most. So I saw him about the last person I'm leaving. I see him, and I go, dude, my daughter loves you. Can I please get a picture with you? And I send the video to my daughter. And I say, hey, listen, if there's anything, I'd love to do something with you. About three weeks later, he pitches his story in Hawaii. It's amazing. I laugh my ass off. We instantly saw it. I'm going in two weeks to go shoot it in Hawaii. No way. With David Spade? A fucking year later. No, with Sandberg. But I'm just saying it's the same thing where you've just like minded friends. Oh, that's what you were saying. Yeah, just friends and buddies meet in the comedy. Like I've never met him before. It's just through my daughter. But you see something and you're like, dude. And you make a friend. But like I'm saying, you got anything in there and you want to, you know, you see me, you see you like, oh, dude, Momoa would be that. Oh, my gosh. I'm going to think of something good. It'd be fun to be in it. You know what I mean? I'm going to think of something good. You're Paul Bunyan. I could be the Blue Ox, bro. You could be Paul Bunyan. I don't know Babe I'll be Babe Yeah you'll be Babe the Blue Ox then And we gotta find somebody to be Paul Bunyan I'm gonna be the brother that's on methadone But we'll figure it out We'll figure it out homie Jason Momoa thanks so much man Thanks for having me Go see the record crew guys Now I'm just floating on the breeze And I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone Oh but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna tell you