The Shooting

I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby, we unpack the story of an unimaginable tragedy that gripped the UK in 2023. But what if we didn't get the whole story? I've just been made to fit. The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapsed. What if the truth was disguised by a story we chose to believe? Oh my God, I think she might be innocent. Listen to Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. The perpetrator was sentenced to 99 years until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Eckerd. In 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. But here's the thing. Bachelor fans hated him. If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would. That's when his life took a disturbing turn. A one-night stand would end in a courtroom. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, listeners. I'm Sean Flynn, host of the Brothers Ortiz podcast. And I'm excited to share this riveting story with you. But I'm also excited to tell you that you can now get access to all episodes of the Brothers Ortiz 100% ad-free. And one week early through the iHeart True Crime Plus subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Plus, you'll get access to other chart-topping true crime shows you love, like The Girlfriends, Paper Ghosts, Piketon Massacre, Murder Homes, Unrestorable, The Godmother, Betrayal, and more. So don't wait. Head to Apple Podcasts, search for iHeart True Crime Plus, and subscribe today. January 28th, 2023. Early morning. Hours before dawn. Gabe Ortiz is asleep at home in Austin, or he was until his phone wakes him up. I see Kissy's name, and I know this can't be a good phone call. For one, Kissy never calls me. Secondly, it's 2.58 a.m. It's been nine weeks since Larry confessed to Gabe that he was broke, that he shot a guy once, that he was still in the dope game. But Gabe isn't thinking about any of that. I was thinking, okay, they either got into an argument, or maybe my brother got into a fight somewhere. But when I answer the phone, she is screaming frantically, they shot him, they shot him. They shot your brother. Gabe is shaking off the sleep, trying to decipher what's happening. Who's they? But all he gets from Kissy is that Larry is face down and bleeding. A Brazoria County Sheriff's deputy is already there. Kissy gives him the phone. I speak to him, and I'm like, hey, I'm an officer with DPS, and what can you tell me? He said, sir, we're still trying to figure out what's going on ourselves. I said, hey, that's my brother that's being worked on. Officer to officer, what does it look like? Is it that bad? and he's like, sir, it's not looking good. I don't know that he's breathing and they can't find a pulse. And I just, probably one of the few times in my life where I just absolutely felt helpless. Like there's nothing that I can do. He gets in the shower. Gabe knows that at some point he'll have to start driving toward Brazoria County. He might as well get ready. I haven't prayed in a long time. and I'm crying in the shower and I'm praying, please God, save him. Just saw that just this one time I'm asking that maybe you can, you know, let him pull through. And so I'm crying in the shower and I get another call and I can't remember if it was a deputy or who I spoke to, but it was basically he didn't make it I was like now I'm fucking pissed and it was like I disassociated myself at that moment and that was probably my way to cope with the situation but then I became a DPS criminal investigator because that's what I've done best and that's what I know From Campside Media and iHeart Podcasts, this is The Brothers Ortiz, Episode 7, The Shooting. I'm Sean Flynn. The Beach House Larry rented for the last week in January is in a little vacation community called Treasure Island, which isn't actually an island. It's a few sandy roads scraped into the north end of another island, San Luis. There's a handful of older, smaller houses shaded by newer and bigger McMansions with a view of the Gulf to the east and of the chemical plants on the mainland to the west. It's also not far from where Larry grew up. Cross the bridge out of Freeport, turn left on the Blue Water Highway, and keep going for about 20 minutes. If you reach the bridge to Galveston, you've gone too far. Larry rented one of the smaller places out there. One floor, set up on pilings with a wide wraparound deck. It's not oceanfront, but you can see the water between the bigger houses on the beach. All beach houses have names. It's kind of a thing. This one is C'est la vie, like C'est la vie, such is life. But starting with C-S-E-A. It's cute, and it's five stars on Airbnb. Larry and his family began arriving on Friday afternoon, January 27th. When we got there, he was outside. Larry's daughter, Larissa. He gave me a hug. He gave the kids a hug. He gave my kid's father a handshake. Larissa and the kids went inside, claimed one of the bedrooms. Then he was drinking a beer, my dad. So I got me a beer. And I was like, let's play a game or something. He was waiting for the basketball game to come on. So he was like, okay, let's play a game before basketball. So we started playing Connect Four with my kids and my little cousin that was there. But something wasn't sitting right. He wasn't very talkative. I could tell something was bothering him, honestly. He wasn't really active with us. He was really in his phone a lot that night. We got there. probably about 9, 30-ish. And we just hung out. You know, the kids played their little games. Everybody was just having a good time. This is Larry's sister, Alicia. She noticed it too. Larry was very quiet that night. He was more observant, more just kind of just looking back at everybody on his phone, recording people. So, I don't know. He was just, it was off a little bit. He was a little off. Larry, Larissa, and her kids played another game of Connect Four. Then Larry moved to the couch. The Raptors and Golden State Warriors run at 9 o'clock Texas time. Larissa played Uno with her cousins for a while, then called it a night around 1130. She had an early appointment the next morning back in town. I was like, all right, Dad, I'm going to go lay down. He said, good night. Before y'all leave, y'all wake me up in the morning. And I was like, okay. That was it. It gets time to where everything's kind of winding down, probably about 1230, something like that. He asked if we were staying. By we, Larry meant Alicia and two of her kids, PJ, who was 11, and Halo, who was 15. I said, bro, I'm not staying tonight, but Halo and I will be back in the morning. We're going to go get our outfits for the quinceanera. PJ's got his outfits. He's got his outfit. And then he asked if PJ could stay. And I said, yeah, PJ can stay. About the same time Alicia is leaving, Nadlin, Larry and Kissy's eldest daughter, is arriving. She caught a late flight from Orlando, where she lives with her girlfriend and her 8-year-old daughter, Kalaya. And then she drove two hours from Houston. Me and my dad love Jack-in-the-box tacos, so I just bought a lot of Jack-in-the-box tacos for us. We sat at the table, we ate, just laughing, you know, having a good time. On the main floor of the house, there was the kitchen and living room, and three bedrooms. Down below was a separate sleeping area. That's where Nadlin is staying with her girlfriend and Kalaya. My daughter begged me to stay upstairs, and I'm like, no, you're tired. They all go downstairs. Larry comes too. My dad turned on the shower for Kalaya because he was like, Kalaya, you're going to sleep upstairs with us. Which is what happens. Kalaya showers and goes back upstairs. A little while later, Nadlin goes up to retrieve a charger for her phone In the living room she tells Kalaya she can be up all night but she too busy goofing off with her cousins Larissa and Alicia kids Before I left to go back downstairs, I went to my parents' room, and they were already knocked out. And I just kissed them, and I told them I loved them, and they told me they loved me, and I hugged them, and I honestly never do that. I don't know. We're not really affectionate much, all of us. or my dad is. He'll hug us all day long. Like, he'll just hug, hug, hug, hug, hug. Like, even on vacation, he'll just come and hug us. Like, I love you so much. So yeah, I got to, like, hug and kiss him. And I went down and just went to sleep, all of us. Yeah. China's Ministry of State Security is one of the most mysterious and powerful spy agencies in the world. But in 2017, the FBI got inside. This is Special Agent Regal, Special Agent Bradley Hall. This MSS officer has no idea the U.S. government is on to him. But the FBI has his chats, texts, emails, even his personal diary. Hear how they got it on the Sixth Bureau podcast. I now have several terabytes of an MSS officer, no doubt, no question, of his life. And that's a unicorn. No one had ever seen anything like that. It was unbelievable. This is a story of the inner workings of the MSS and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its vault of secrets. Listen to The Sixth Bureau on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, a story gripped the UK, evoking horror and disbelief. The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history. Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict, a villain, a nurse named Lucy Letby. Lucy Letby has been found guilty. But what if we didn't get the whole story? The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Letby was. No voicing of any skepticism or doubt. It'll cause so much harm at every single level if the British establishment of this is wrong. Listen to Doubt, The Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Eckerd, and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. He became the first Bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected. The internet turned on him. If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would. But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines. It began as a one-night stand and ended in a courtroom with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. Please search warrant. This is unlike anything I've ever seen. before. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. This season, an epic battle of he said, she said, and the search for accountability in a sea of lies. I have done nothing except get pregnant by the bachelor. Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. He pulls the gun, tells me to lie down on the ground. He identified Jermaine Hudson as the perpetrator. Jermaine was sentenced to 99 years. I'm like, Lord, this can't be real. I thought it was a mistaken identity. The best lie is partial truth. For 22 years, only two people knew the truth. Until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's reset the scene, bask in it, just for a moment. It's January 2023. Larry Ortiz has rented a small beach house to spend a weekend with his family, with his kids, his grandkids, his sister, his nieces and nephews. He was quieter than usual, watching, studying, as if he wanted to make sure the memories were processing, that he was capturing it all. At half past two in the morning, he's in bed on the main floor of the house with his wife, Kissy, who he'd been with for 30 years. His daughter, Larissa, her daughter and her daughter's father are in another bedroom on the main floor. And his daughter, Nadlin, and her girlfriend are downstairs, on the ground floor. The kids, nieces, nephews, grandkids, the ones who hadn't fallen asleep, were playing video games in the living room. His mom, Gloria, she's not there yet because she doesn't drive at night. It's her eyes. But she'll be there in the morning. She's going to cook a big pot of her Mexican rice. It was all just about perfect. But there's one person, one member of the family, still not in for the night. His son, Larry III, is across the bridge in Freeport, where he's been making the rounds of the local bars with a friend. He sent Nadlin a message. My brother texted me like, wake up, let's finish drinking. Third had been there at C'est La Vie earlier in the evening. But about the time Larry was winding things down, Third decided to go out. My mom didn't even want him to go out because the tags were out on the truck anyway. That's Larissa noting that the truck Third was driving had expired plates. But my dad still said yes and he knew the tags were out because he just didn't know how to tell him no. I think he just didn't like arguing or he, I don't know. But he just never told that boy no. So third drove 15, 20 minutes down the Blue Water Highway. It's not really a highway, just a two-lane blacktop. And went over the bridge to Freeport, hit a couple of bars with his friend Lucas, and now close to 2 a.m., third is pestering Nadlin. My best friend, she was supposed to come to with my brother to see me and hang out with me. But I'm like, we're so tired. Everyone's asleep. We're already in bed. Just come home and we're going to party tomorrow. I'm like, drive safe. I love you, you know. But she's still awake. It was just such a weird night. I could not sleep. Just tossing and turning, tossing and turning. I just kept hearing things outside. I hear car doors, but I'm like, oh, my brother's home. I can't tell you exactly what time it is, but I remember getting woken up by my brother. Larissa, unlike Nadlin, had been sound asleep. He came in the room that I was in and was like, I'm so fucked up. And I was like, what? And he was like, yeah, I'm lit. And I was like, I was like, you're crazy. And he shut the door. I laid my head down for like not even 0.2 seconds. I started hearing a lot of noise. Finally, I'm going to sleep. It's like 2.15, 2.30. And I just hear fighting. And I'm thinking, is my brother coming home drunk, fighting with my dad or fighting with my sister's boyfriend or something? He's always acting crazy, you know, he's drunk. And I put my shoes on and I ran right upstairs. And I didn't notice the door broken at all. I'm just, I'm half asleep. I got up and I opened the door a little bit to see what was going on because it was a lot of booming against the walls. Like, it literally sounded like fighting. And that's when I kind of seen what I seen, which was a man with a mask standing in front of the door, and he had a gun. Larissa, peeking through a cracked door, has a limited view. What she doesn't see, what she can't see, is that there's more than one stranger in the house and there's more than one gun. At the top of the stairs, at the exact place where Nadlin is running to, there's a woman. She's short and wearing a mask. And she has a gun, too. I thought it was my cousin PJ. And I'm like, PJ, what are you doing? You know, like, stop playing. And the girl just turned the gun to me. And I'm like, damn, like, like, this is real. So, like, you know, she's like, like, get down on the ground or whatever. Like, I just fall. Like, because you're just, you know, you just don't, you don't know what to do. So, I just fall. And I'm just praying to God, like, please don't shoot me. And Kalaya is like, she wants me. So my daughter's like, like, mom, like, and I'm looking at her and I'm trying to talk to her with my eyes, like, to hush, to be quiet, to lay down. I hit the door open and I watched anything that I could The guy with the ski mask on with the gun he had knocked my brother out unconscious on the floor I see my brother laying on the floor and then I seen his friend on his knees and the guy was hitting him over the head with a gun, demanding money. Like, where's the money? Give me the money. Give me the money. At that point, my kid's father was like, you need to shut the door. I was already calling 911 on the phone. I remember just getting transferred between Missouri County, Galveston, and Surfside, back and forth. operators, operators, operators. And I was just like, there's guns and I don't know how many people, but there's people in here. And in the back, I could just hear my dad like, relax, chill. Like, we can fix this, you know, like we don't have no money. My mom's saying like, we don't have money. We don't have money. And she was like, we got this off Groupon. She's still just holding the gun to me. And I kept telling her, the money's in the car, the money's in the car. I don't know why I kept saying that, but like, I'm just saying that because I know that they're demanding money. I can see my dad. He's walking in the hallway, but he has his hands up and he's telling him like, please don't shoot me. Like, we can take care of this. Relax, like calm down. My dad's just trying to calm him down. So I'm just praying to God, praying to God. Like, I I just, I don't know, just I don't want to die, you know. I don't want to be shot. I don't know, I just, it's just so much. So my dad's walking down the hallway and all you hear is like a pop. My mom started screaming my dad's name and I just heard one gunshot. And I just said, ma'am, I think my dad's been shot. The whole house is screaming. I still have this gun to my head, so I just see my dad. He's just holding the wall with one hand. And he has one hand over the gun wound, because he has a white shirt. So you can see the gun wound. My dad falls to the ground, like, face forward. And the girl still has the gun to me, so I still can't get him. The short woman with the gun and all of the intruders, they finally run. And there's blood everywhere. So I got up and I ran to my dad. And I just seen his body and I just knew he was gone. Larissa's boyfriend slips out of their room to see what's happening. He comes back for Larissa and their daughter. He said, we have to walk out here because this is the only way we can get out. But when we walk out here, put your head in my chest. And I said, why? He said, just do what I said. He said, don't pick your head up. I knew immediately once I opened that door that we were going to be walking into something. My dad was laying on the floor right there. So I had to literally cross him to get out of the beach house. I can't say that I cried because I was just like, it didn't feel real what we were going through. I didn't even think that he was dead at that time. You know, I'm just thinking like he shot and he's alive. So after we went outside, the cops finally showed up. They wouldn't let us go back upstairs. After everything started processing and I heard a cop say that he wasn't alive, I tried to go back upstairs and they wouldn't let me go up there. I wish I would have just stayed there with him. And I didn't want to believe, like, you know, he was dead. I always thought he was so invincible to things, like a bullet took my dad away. It just hurt. It's almost 3 o'clock in the morning. Larry and Gabe's sister, Alicia, is still not home. She'd stopped to have a drink with a friend, and now she's in the drive-thru at Whataburger when her phone rings. And it was Kissy screaming. That was something that I wouldn't want nobody to ever experience. I just knew. I just remember just like putting my foot down as hard as I could and just going as fast as I could to get back to that beach house. And it just like, it seemed like it took forever to get back. Everybody was just screaming when I pulled up and I was just like, where's Larry? somehow ended up on the phone with Gabe. And I remember Gabe asking me, like, to give him a play-by-play of what was going on. I tell Gabe, the ambulance is leaving, and they're not, they don't have Larry. I don't understand what's going on. It wasn't clicking why they didn't have Larry in the EMS. And I can remember Gabe just saying, it's not good, Leesh, that's not good. And I just remember just kind of just falling to the ground. Gloria, Larry's mom, she got a phone call right about then. It was Kissy, again, screaming. An officer comes on the line and he says, and he just says, ma'am, I can't talk to you right now. I said, we're trying to take care of a crime that just happened. and yes, he's deceased. And I said, who's deceased? Who is deceased? I said, Larry Ortiz? And he goes, yes. I said, that's my son. And he goes, yes, your son, Larry Ortiz, is dead, ma'am. He's deceased. And so I've got to hang up. I've got to take care of this and click. I couldn't move. I was just... I was numb. I felt my body just coming numb. And I wanted to scream, but, like, the scream could not come out. And my husband is there. And he's just all I can hear him saying something like, Gloria, Gloria, Gloria. But it's like an echo, you know. And I'm just like, finally, I just screamed. It came out. And I said, Larry's gone. I never thought it was going to end up the way it ended up with Larry. Me as a mother, I never thought. I was just like, I would stay in church. And I would be praying for all of them. to be, you know, to come back and just, you know, be walking right and serving the Lord like we used to when we were a family in the older days. But it didn't happen like that. In 2023, a story gripped the UK, evoking horror and disbelief. The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history. Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict, a villain, a nurse named Lucy Letby. Lucy Letby has been found guilty. But what if we didn't get the whole story? The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Letby was. No voicing of any skepticism or doubt. It'll cause so much harm at every single level if the British establishment of this is wrong. Listen to Doubt, The Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. China's Ministry of State Security is one of the most mysterious and powerful spy agencies in the world. But in 2017, the FBI got inside. This is Special Agent Regal, Special Agent Bradley Hall. This MSS officer has no idea the U.S. government is on to him. But the FBI has his chats, texts, emails, even his personal diary. Hear how they got it on the Sixth Bureau podcast. I now have several terabytes of an MSS officer, no doubt, no question, of his life. And that's a unicorn. No one had ever seen anything like that. It was unbelievable. This is a story of the inner workings of the MSS and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its vault of secrets. Listen to The Sixth Bureau on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. He pulls the gun, tells me to lie down on the ground. He identified Jermaine Hudson as the perpetrator Jermaine was sentenced to 99 years I like Lord this can be real I thought it was a mistaken identity The best lie is partial truth. For 22 years, only two people knew the truth until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Eckerd, and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. He became the first Bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected. The internet turned on him. If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would. But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines. It began as a one-night stand and ended in a courtroom, with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. Please search warrant. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. This season, an epic battle of he said, she said, and the search for accountability in a sea of lies. I have done nothing except get pregnant by the f***ing bachelor! Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What I was told was that a number of people came in that was in altercation. And my brother woke up and confronted, immediately engages with the perpetrator and gets into a struggle and ends up getting shot in his chest. It's half past three in the morning. Gabe Ortiz, at home in Austin, has just been told his little brother Larry is dead. That round pierced his aorta, severed it, essentially, and he drops to his knees, collapses, and just bled to death. I honestly didn't know at that moment what happened. But part of me felt like the way he lived his life and that lifestyle, that at some point, something like this would happen. You know, he goes to bars, and he wasn't afraid to fight. And there was a lot of altercations that he got into. You know, obviously, he was in the dope game for a long time. He was in and out of prison. He's probably made a lot of enemies over the years. I just felt deep down that at some point, something like this could possibly happen. As a brother, Gabe is distraught, confused. But he's also a cop, and that's how he reacts, like a cop. I started making phone calls to all the people in law enforcement that I felt could possibly assist with what is now going to be a murder investigation. He called the sheriff of Brazoria County. They were rookie state troopers together back in the day. He called the head of the Texas Rangers. He and Gabe came up through CID, the Criminal Investigations Division. He called the Department of Public Safety regional director in Houston, who covers Brazoria County. And I remember even calling the colonel and letting him know that, hey, my brother's just been shot and murdered. And, you know, one of the colonels said, do we need to put you on a plane to get you down there? And I said, no, sir, we're going to drive. He said, well, Gabe, you let us know. We'll send the fucking cavalry down there. Gabe realizes he's in a somewhat awkward position. There's a line between grieving brother and high-ranking cop, and it's a line he doesn't want to cross. I made a decision that I didn't want to go to the crime scene. I didn't feel like that was helpful. You know, there's the balance between, hey, he's my brother, but I'm also a DPS officer. And so I kind of kept that separate, and I didn't want to go down there. Obviously, you know, at this point in my career, I've got, you know, 20 years in criminal investigations. but I certainly don't want to dictate to another agency how to run their investigation. And I didn't want it to be perceived that way. So most of the time, and I made that pretty clear with the sheriff down there. I'm like, hey, he knew it was my brother. And he said, hey, Gabe, we'll keep you in the loop as far as the investigation goes. And they did. You know, anytime they had updates about, hey, we've got some new evidence. Here's what we know. Investigators aren't supposed to make assumptions. They don't want to get ahead of what they know. Facts and evidence are supposed to lead them to a conclusion, not the other way around. That said, experience and common sense will usually nudge them in the right direction. One thing cops know about a crime like this is that random home invasions, this idea of marauding bandits kicking in any old door and pistol whipping whoever happens to be behind it, Those are exceedingly rare. They basically never happen. Instead, these kind of attacks are targeted. The bad guys almost always know who they're going after and what they're trying to get. So, without assuming anything, that's a good place for an investigation to start. What do those bad guys know? Or think they knew? It was probably about a month, a little over a month later. I remember sitting at a restaurant with two other officers when I get the phone call that, hey, we've got good news. We just got the judge to sign off on these murder warrants for all six of the suspects. And I remember sitting at the table and I was like, fuck yeah. That's next time on The Brothers Ortiz. The Brothers Ortiz is a production from Campside Media in partnership with iHeart Podcasts. Listen on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Brothers Ortiz was written, reported, and hosted by me, Sean Flynn. Lane Rose is our senior producer. Story editing by Audrey Quinn. Sound design, mix, and engineering by Garrett Tiedemann. Original music by Garrett Tiedemann. Fact-checking by Savannah Wright iHeart Podcast executive producers are Lindsay Hoffman and Jennifer Bassett Campside Media's executive producers are Josh Dean, Vanessa Gregoriadis, Adam Hoff, and Matt Scher A special thanks to our operations team Doug Slaywin, Ashley Warren, and Sabina Mara If you enjoyed The Brothers Ortiz please rate and review the show wherever you get your podcasts and thanks for listening I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, Doubt, The Case of Lucy Letby, we unpack the story of an unimaginable tragedy that gripped the UK in 2023. But what if we didn't get the whole story? The evidence has been made to fit. The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapsed. What if the truth was disguised by a story we chose to believe? Oh my God, I think she might be innocent. Listen to Doubt, The Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Eckerd. In 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. But here's the thing. Bachelor fans hated him. If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would. That's when his life took a disturbing turn. A one-night stand would end in a courtroom. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. The perpetrator was sentenced to 99 years until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey listeners, I'm Sean Flynn, host of the Brothers Ortiz podcast, and I'm excited to share this riveting story with you. But I'm also excited to tell you that you can now get access to all episodes of the Brothers Ortiz 100% ad free and one week early through the iHeart True Crime Plus subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Plus, you'll get access to other chart-topping true crime shows you love, like The Girlfriends, Paper Ghosts, Piketon Massacre, Murder Homes, Unrestorable, The Godmother, Betrayal, and more. So don't wait. Head to Apple Podcasts, search for iHeart True Crime Plus, and subscribe today.