RE-RELEASE - Molly Shannon

So I just saw Molly recently, Molly Shannon, and she is on the show. We had her a little bit ago, and she is always such a bright light. When you see her, she always smiles, she lights up. She has something to say. She asks about me. And I think she's starring now with Will Ferrell in his new show, Hawk. Because he was at the golf tournament. Golfs, golfs, golfs, come. And yeah, Will Ferrell's a golfer. Yeah. I think she's the ex-wife, which is perfect. Those two are so funny, Ms. and L. Yeah, they've done a lot of things together over the years. Yeah. They're very funny. And a lot of people I know, she is definitely an S and L one. And especially women come up and go, Molly was so great, and she's such a good vibe. And she's kind of quiet in real life. And then she has these big characters. So, a lot to go over with her. Yeah. Yeah. And then we'll see. We talk about what she does for working out. That's very funny. It really surprised me. And she just kind of in the running for as nice a human as you could kind of interact with that, you know, this is just for me, I was on a flight, American going to New York. And this woman was kind of like asking me questions and this and that. And she said that Molly Shannon went up and talked to her for two hours about her life and her family. And, you know, just the nicest person. You know, she's like, Oh, really? She really gets into it. And you go, Oh, is this person actually listening to my story? Yeah. So I decided to try to go up there longer than Molly did because I was just competitive. Yeah, for sure. No, she's she's very nice, really funny, super talent and just a great hang. So I would check this out if you didn't hear it the first time. And if you didn't hear it the first time, do it again. What do you got to lose? She is Molly Shannon. This is such a great idea. Congratulations, guys. I love you, Molly. And, you know, Molly, a bunch of high school friends and I chipped in and we bought a Bitcoin. So I'll let you know how that goes. Okay, great. I like how we're very quiet. Yes, I have a card. You know, I like when people talk this way, like sometimes if I calm down, like if a fan comes up and is like, I just wanted to say that, you know, I'm like, I feel so relaxed by your voice. So I'll keep talking to them if I like the voice. I think that you just wanted to say that to you because maybe you talk like that in sketch. There's something or maybe we've talked about that's where you did it. I've talked about this in interviews, but I actually have something called ASMR for real, which is like a type of response to certain voices where you feel really relaxed. So it's not it's it's real. I've had it since I was a kid. I used to store the game that we used to play. David is kind of based on that, but it is really real. Like if a certain if I ask them is like a stranger for directions and say they had a certain voice where they were like, okay, let me just get the map and then they touch the map and they have a certain type of voice that puts me in a very relaxed state. So is it like Zelek Woody Allen that you start to become in a way? Hi, Molly. I'm just a really big fan. You go, thank you so much. I love that. She just keeps asking for directions. No, it's not like that. I love that for you. It's a feeling of like it feels almost like getting a massage. It's like, oh, I love this voice. I do it too. It's like when you were a kid and people would read your stories, if you got the right voice to read your story, that's what you wanted. Some teachers had it. Sometimes when someone read you to go to sleep, you know, when you're little, and you just go lock into it and you go, oh, it's the best. And then you zonk out. Yeah. It's great. Teacher would read the story and I'm in second grade and the teacher was like 25 and had like nine long stockings on and a short dress. It was just sort of, it made you feel funny. Oh boy. It made me feel funny like when I used to climb the rope in gym class where that came from. Anyway, I don't know why I went there. But, you know. Wait, wait, wait. So you're saying that she would have stockings on? Well, just that first time I'd seen an adult woman and they were very beautiful. They were second grade teachers. It's the 60s. Anyone could be a teacher now. And they were pretty young women and they would have just a normal skirt on and crossing and uncrossing their legs. And I'm seven, eight or nine. I just sort of got a little tingling. So you start noticing women and you go, oh, I like this. And then they're not doing anything wrong and everything is sexual to you. Yeah. They're just really not sweet. They're just living their life and you're like, whoa. Yeah. So she's walking. That's great. It's like when you love the fellow in love with the lifeguard. Remember in seventh grade, I just made this up. You know what I mean? I was like, I like it. There's so much in her book and it's the only thing that isn't in her book about the lifeguard. I have a question from Molly about your book. Okay. Oh, great, David. You worked at cravings. Is that a sunset puzzle right here? Yes, it's right here. Is it still here? No, it closed down. That was here forever. It was here forever. The best grilled lemon chicken salad and really good pasta. I worked there for about four and a half years. I read all that part of your book and then I started in the beginning this morning. It's really compelling. Thank you. It wasn't like, oh, we get a book. We got a, okay, what? The famous one was like very well written. Things. And I wanted to ask, how old were you and how long did you go at cravings and when did you leave cravings? How old were you? Because that's the only thing I didn't get. Yes. I worked at cravings for four and a half years and I got Saturday night live when I was 30. But I had left cravings, I think, a couple of years before that. So from 23 and a half to 28. Something like that. Yeah, about like that. Yeah. But we had fun. It was a good, he, Abraham, our boss hired really good people. We had parties at night and dinners. We had a blast working there. That's right. And that's where you can sit on the street at sunset, right? Yeah. Now, it said here that you were, was it improv and you would call people to come to your shows like a bringer show, like you'd say, is that true? You made a bunch of phone calls. Oh, yeah, yeah. It said like 500 to get 200 people to show up. Yeah, I would use, it was before email. So I would tell my customers, oh, I do this comedy show, come on the roll. Come see my show. What's your name? And they're like, oh, Ben, I'm like, oh, what's your girlfriend's name? Melissa, okay, Ben and Melissa, give me your number. So then when I did a show in Santa Monica, I would pack the house with like 200 people. And I would just invite one industry person per show and make it like this hot show. But really, I was calling everyone myself like, hi, Ben, I met you at Cravings. Can you and your girlfriend, Melissa, come to my show? Yes. Okay, great. And I would make all these calls. And when I got Saturday night live, I took that box of name and phone numbers that I'd made for mobile waitressing days and threw it in the dumpster because I didn't have to call anyone anymore to invite them to my show. That's nice. It's like a robo call. Did you like the dumpster on fire? It sounds very dramatic. You sure? No, I didn't light it on fire, but it was dramatic in that I took that box and I was like, you know, all the little papers went flying. By the way, it worked. All that work paid off. It did. It did. Go get her then. You got Marcy. Now, where did Marcy see you? Marcy Klein, talent coordinator for SNL. Marcy Klein came flew out. Thank you so much. Thank you. Oh, oh, thank you. She's pleased. Oh, thank you. Almond milk. Get it? I gotta get some biscotti. We had Molly some coffee and an Ellen mug. Yes, with almond milk. That's so nice. Sorry about that. Just peel this pill out anywhere, Molly. Doesn't matter. Marcy Klein came out to see my stage show. The Saturday night live producer and management. She wasn't a talent manager, but she was in charge of talent or something. You had a couple of headings, Marcy. Yeah, she was the producer, talent coordinator, but she came out to LA and saw my show and loved it. And then she was like, I'm bringing you to New York to audition for Saturday night live. So, yeah. How fun. Marcy was a big part of all that because she was there when I was there. She was in on my audition. She was in on yours probably, huh? Nope. Whoa. Do you guess who was at Dana's audition? Go ahead, Dana. Give it to her. Okay, this is a 30-second story about me. Okay. I was in SNL. I played Brown University. Wow. And there was a woman in front that was kind of heckling me or friendly or whatever, and she had gigantic hair. So, I did a comedian's trick, I called her Big Hair Woman. That became a runner. It's an old comedian. So, hey, Big Hair Woman. What do you say? Yeah. So, it ends up, that was Marcy Klein. Oh. And then Marcy, the year next year, comes to SNL. And I remember her from Brown University. So, when we have her on this podcast, I'll call her Big Hair Woman. Oh, that's... She has an incredible audience. Yeah, she is. What a famous singer was at your audition? Well, that was... I did it at Santa Monica as well, a little club called Ig Bees. Ig Bees. And Rosie O'Donnell was playing there, and I had to ask her. I didn't even know Rosie O'Donnell. She seemed like the most confident person I ever met. Yeah. Could I lean in on your show? And I'm going to bring Lauren Michaels. And then she said, okay, and then we flipped the coin. I went on first, but Lauren walked in. Brandon Tartakov, head of the network. What? I go, God, I'm getting really nervous. And then Cher saddled in. So that was my trio, three shot. Here's your life. If I didn't make it that night, I think I'd be working at... What was it? Carries? Carnies? Where'd you work? Cravings. I know it's gone, but I'd reopen it so I could work there. And how many minutes did you have, Dana? I was actually doing the stand-up thing route. So I had an hour, hour ten of stand-up. Amazing. But you would audition at the comedy store and you'd do five minutes. What wasn't that special? Get off. Didn't work. I bombed every time. Wow. And then Anderson wants dead silence. So this time it's 45 in a real club. And I was just scared out of my mind. When Marcy saw you, did you... How was your nerve level at that point with your act? Were you getting really confident or were you nervous when Marcy was there? Or you didn't know who she was really? Let's see. She came to my... Yeah, so she flew out and came to see my stage show, which was about an hour, the Robin Molly show. And I was definitely nervous. I was very excited that we got her to come see my show. So I was just thrilled. So we kind of... I had kind of taken off a year from doing the shows because I was like, I don't know if I have the heart to stay in this business. So really a year before that, I really thought I might quit because then become a real estate agent or I don't know. But then I heard Marcy was coming to town so I whipped together a show for the last minute. And I paid for the band and asked my partner Rob. I said, do you mind? Could you do one more show, please? And I'll take care of everything. I'll invite everyone. I'll just... is all you have to do is show up. And he said, okay, so I was just really just excited that she was there. And it was a great feeling in the audience. And so... But yes, I'm sure I was nervous. But then for my actual audition flying to New York, I had five minutes at Stand Up New York with... Oh, wow. And I got to do characters. And let's see. I'm trying to think... Yeah, so that I was definitely very, very nervous. Because you don't have to stand up. Well, I'm just interested. Yeah, not to stand up. You know, if anyone's hearing this and they're like, you had a theater group in high school or something that you... Bally Shannon was thinking, maybe I'm going to quit. Maybe I'm not going to do this. Yeah, exactly. I think we all think that. And then 18 months later or something, you know, a talent coordinator from SNL and then you're on your way. So we had reinforcing mechanisms being stand ups. That's how I made a living. So I couldn't quit. But I quit several times in college. I bombed so bad. So how did you deal with that? Did you feel like you went into kind of a depression? Or just saying, I never really got depressed for a long period of time. But I remember I had an audition on a lot in the valley. I forget if it was CBS Radford. And I remember not being asked to stay. It was one of those things where you could see the girls who were going to say we're going to go straight to producers at five o'clock. So you kind of know. They stay hanging around. They hang around. You kind of know. And you say you can go. Yeah. And you get to know the girls on the circuit, kind of the comedy girls or groundlings girls. And then I did my thing and they were just like, thank you, Molly. Like next. And then I walked out to the room and you could see the girls who were being asked to stay. And I was just like, bye, everyone. Good luck. My heart melted. Crushed. Crushed. And I went out to the parking lot. And I saw this great actress named Katherine Lenasa. And she's just so lovely. And she was like, what were you auditioning for? And I think I forget what it was. But she was just so casual. And I remember she was like doing stretches by her car like ballet and stretching her leg. And I was like, oh, I wish I could be easy breezy like Katherine Lenasa and not caring. And I was feeling dark. Like, so, so much rejection. And I think I'll just go to Gelsons and get a half a chicken and go home. So fine shades and call it a night. Oh my gosh, it's a chicken. That's so sweet. I love it. It kind of sounds delicious though. Delicious. Yeah. And that is what I did. But I just, in that moment was like, I don't think I have the heart for this anymore. This is just too hard. So much rejection. Yeah. So that's when I gave up for a year. I would be sitting in auditions and it's so depressing with Brad Pitt next to me and going like, are you reading for Hunk also? Oh, no. Well, let's see who gets it. Let's stay friends after though, if I get it. Anyway. I read for Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward. Did you really? They gave me a scene partner and I sucked. You've seen my movies. I mean, I don't know what I was doing. So Paul Newman's there and I'm in awe of Cool Anne Luke. Yeah. And he had these red socks on and Joanne Woodward had a little dog and I just got confused. But I'm with a scene partner and she was really good. But we just fucked it. And we went outside the room and I go, man, that went bad. She goes, you fucked me, man. Oh no. And Robbie Benson got the part. Robbie, if you're listening, congratulate her on with you. I didn't really dig it. Robbie Benson, Harry and Tonto, it was called. Robbie Benson is a badass actor. But yeah, I felt bad that I took her down with me. Oh. I apologize to Sherry O'Terry years later. Oh, my God. That's a joke. Wait, were you just cold reading the scene? Yeah, you'd get it and you'd hold the script and you had a few minutes to look over it. I was a terror. Were you a good auditioner, do you think? And just had bad luck? Let's see. I think, well, what about you? So I can't imagine you messing that up, Dana. I was terrified of acting. I was good doing my own comedy. But to me, actors were, I never took any acting lessons. I never did any theater groups. So it was like, what? I got to sound like someone else. It seems very easy now to me. Like I can really act good now. But I'm a little late to the game. So you know, sometimes people look down on you like, if they hear you're a stand up or maybe I'm probably, if you're with actor-actors and I've been in auditions and they go, so you're a stand up and I go, yeah, and I see them going, oh boy. Like they know they think you're already, they're already winning. And they kind of are because it is harder. I thought I was so naturally good and I heard Eddie Murphy never took a class. So when I moved out here, I got some auditions right away because I was like, Blonde, I was 20, I looked 15. And then I was like, I'm so naturally funny. So I didn't know what I was doing, but I'm just like reading. And I was in there like, he's horrible. Like there's this girl, he doesn't know what he's doing. And I go, no, I'm naturally gifted. And I wasn't. And then I had to do two years of class because they wouldn't bring me back for auditions. They said he's too green. Oh my gosh. And it was such, all my heat went away. I got to town, I had some heat. Yeah. And then it went away. And then two years later, I'd start again from scratch. That's so neat. I know a little more. Like I didn't know how to hold the side. They don't look up or look down. And you just need to have a little confidence to go in front of an acting teacher say, when you walk in, do you do this? And she goes, no, that's a red fly. So then I just learned, oh, so if I just go in and I don't do these things, at least I'm in the mix. I read for Brandon Tartakov. Did you? And right before I, and he's going to give me a holding deal. It was already all set. And I walked in and this motherfucker, Dennis, somebody, head of casting, I'm in the waiting room. I got a coach. I went over my fucking size and no one was doing. And he walks in and he goes, oh, I think we're going to do these. Oh no. I took it out of my hand, put in a new thing. And he goes, and I go, this is a new scene. They go, yeah, they go ready for you. And I go, no, no, I didn't have the balls to go, give me a second. I walked in. I just read it off the page and I go, thank you. And I go in my manager, he goes, how'd you fuck that up? I go, what do you mean? He goes, there's no development deal. He said you're too green. I go, well, they did the old switcheroo on me. He goes, well, no one's going to remember that part. I read a lot of the scene with Lynn Stallmaster in a room. She's a big casting director, right? Oh yeah, Lynn Stallmaster. He's a man. Well, yeah, he's a guy. But it was just me and him alone reading a love scene. I'm with this guy in a room and the lights are down. I care about you so much. Don't you understand? Yeah, well, I like you too. My name's Judy, as you know. You know, I mean, it's like so. It's so hard on this. Let's get back to our guest. Let's get back to our guest. Let's talk about ourselves. Wait, that's the one question. David, how old were you when you came to town? 20. No, he looked 15. But you could play together. I tried audition with your, I had a box of props, gross. And I waited at the Imiprop. And you know what's funny? I had a Batman sweatshirt on. This sort of signal I liked comedy. Like, this is kind of like exhaust. That's a good idea. So gross. But I was like, I'm kind of funny already, right? It was just a bat. I was like, huh? And I, I talked to him and he didn't even need to audition. I know you got something going on. That's funny. And so I got, and then Dana, you might have done this. They go every three minutes. They pull it out of a hat. But I think it's all rigged because it's even worse because you don't get sick in to buy your audition. Every three minutes you're sick because they go, is this it? Hey, hey, hey, Jim Squaggmire. Nope, nope. Got three more minutes. And then every, that's all until midnight. Then they go, just go home. Well, that's it folks. And I was like, oh, I never got picked. So I gave up again for a year. And then I came back to LA. See, everyone quit. Tried again. Everyone quit. It's just the way it is. You have to be a quitter. I want to hear what happened when you walked into audition room. Because when I walked into it and I'd see all these versions of myself, like really young auditioners for the same part. Boys looking men with no chins and just sort of like, so I'm like, oh, this is me. I'm part of this tribe. So when you, when you walked into a Molly's, yeah. We're looking for some sexes. Did you see versions of Molly or was it? I mean, I definitely, when I started to get further along, there were definitely like, you know, you probably, audition opposite groundlings girls, like really talented kind of that, those really fantastic comedy girls. Yeah. But before that, no, I don't think so. But I would usually audition for like the best friend or whatever that type of thing. When did you get really, when did you kind of, or did you always have it? Because I was reading your book last night, but I just, your internal confidence. I'm always fascinated by that. Is it? Cause I would say mine would go up and down. Do you have, do you have, I mean, is there, there's a Molly in there that goes, fuck these people. I'm fucking great, right? Yeah. Get out of my way, you know, or, or how do you process your talent and, and what happened to you? How do you, or is it just surreal to you? I think sometimes if I felt like, I remember auditioning for a commercial and I was a waitress at the time. I didn't have a lot of money, but they were just like kind of rude. These like producer writers were all there and kind of blaming the actors. And no, no, you know, and it was, and I was just like, and all these really cool actors were auditioning. And, and then I went and did it. And I think they weren't really paying attention and they're just like acting just interested and they were making everybody wait for a really long time. And I then, I think when I was finished, I said, you know, the, the problem you have is the writing, the actors are all really good. You got to fix your script. This writing is not good enough. Okay, good one. Because I was just like, I just, so I could be tough that way. And just not care if I knew that something was right. I would get, I think sometimes that's a good, you know, sometimes if you feel angry, that can be healthy, you know, standing up for yourself. So I did stuff like that where I was like, I don't give a shit, you know. They start treating you so shitty sometimes with those auditions. You go anger, they don't even look up. They don't do anything. They know they're not taking you. They look at you, look down and go, you're out. And then they go, go ahead. And they go, we're not doing the other scenes. That's the worst. Because you're the one person before you is there for 25 minutes and they're laughing and chuckling and really clicking the heels. And then I read one scene. They go, we're just doing one. I go, that last person did nine. And then they go, well, we're just doing one with you. I go, yeah. So I was so good. I got it just from that. They're like, we'll explain it in the parking lot and get them out of here. Exactly. And I, and I understand I was working with the public all the time as a waitress. And so I was always polite. And so I just thought it's, yeah, it's disrespectful to treat people that way. So at any level, I don't think that I love it. I do think sub planning anger for fear is just a nice move. You know, like I have a fear of flying and sometimes I'll just manifest anger to myself. Fuck this thing. Let's fucking light this candle. You know, just a good way to get aggression. You know, wait, you mean that you, so you'll be fearful, anxious to fly. And then you'll start saying like, fuck this point. Yeah. Fuck this plan. It's like this candle. You know, I don't know. My date is never me saying that. I never see you mean anyone. Um, I, unless it's really, really, people like me, I'm a nice guy, which is kind of, it could be also what an obnoxious passive aggressive guy, you know, uh, that's what song you like. But, uh, I had horrible anger issues in my twenties and I would be nice until I wasn't nice. I would make a nice guy mad because then they have all this suppressed anger stored up and I would go zero to a thousand with a bank teller or a director and I never had a middle gear. Then I figured out, I have all this anger from my childhood. So I've been better. It's like Molly said, if you bully, I get that. I get bullied all the time. So all my whole life. So if you get pushed around, you get this or someone's very disrespectful. I snap on a dime. David, did you get bullied when you were a kid? Oh my God. Non-stop. So what, when you were in grade school? I was a bit of a pipsqueak. I wasn't this strapping athlete you see today. And I was always pushed around and I didn't have a dad, you know, and I was mad and my dad wasn't there. So, I went to my fought back on this kid in sixth grade and he kept pushing me and hitting me for no reason and it was so humiliating. And then I'm like, it just came out like my dad left me. You want all this anger? And I just went bananas on him. I'm sure you did. And he went down his back and I started beating the shit out of him and the whole school was watching and he crawled up and he goes, the coach is coming Iran. The coach was not coming. What was his name? I love him. Oscar. Oscar. Oh yeah, Samra brings him up. Ronnie Carrasco was my last fight. Ronnie Carrasco, you know, called me out in seventh grade. We're terrified all day. This kid was like in fourth grade, we can hear the punches man. We can hear the punches. And then you just get him in a headlong. Anyway, I mistake. By the way. Boys in high school, I should say all their names right now because they deserve it. They're funny to hear. When I would walk by, they would neigh at me like, oh, and it really hurt my feelings. Cool. All the time. It's like, what are they, why are they doing that? Did they think that I look like a horse? And it was humiliating. Oh, of course. And I wish I would have spoken up or told, you know, the head of admissions or the headmaster, but I never did. I would just take it every day. And then I heard that it was because there was a horse named Molly in Animal Farm. And that was it. That was annoying. Even Dormin. Yeah, but every day. So mean. God, if we could call those guys right now. Should I say? They were twins. Assholes. Yeah, asshole twins. You're not going to live with them. No, no, I won't say. All twins are on standby right now. Two twins and another one. And they were such dorky twins. By the way, Sandler bullies me because I told him that story 10 years ago. And then now we're like, we're doing a gig in St. Louis. And he looks out at the crowd and he goes, I think Oscars here. And I go, get the fuck. Oh, he kind of drops my heart for a second. I was he. Oh, so you talk about him a lot. I just did to like those guys. Oh, funny. I never heard of Oscars here. Oscar. He just was rabbit punching me, which is illegal. I'm talking to some people at Little Lake and he just starts rabbit punching me in the back of the head. I'm like, that's a bad guy. And then immediately a circle around me. No, no, there's not a fight here. Wham in the face. I'm like, I don't know. I can't get mad. I don't know what we're fighting about. If you'll explain it to me. I'll gladly. Yeah. Well, at least it was outside the house. I got beaten in the house and outside the house. No, but I kind of ran. Which is why dinner? Well, your daddy liked to get a little physical throw things around. There used to be like a fun. I have a lot of questions for you. There's plenty of people had a couple of weapons. I'm not that. It was sort of the drill back then. But my childhood, that's a whole other issue. I have so many questions. Molly, if you don't start a podcast, you're the most curious guest we've ever had. We can't even get to. Dana, you can't let that slip by me because now I have so many questions. Wow. I know. We'll talk afterwards. Okay. When we have you doing it. We're going, right? Yeah. I want to talk about a lot of things. I have to ask you about a standup comic thing. I don't like that. I think I remember. Oh, Jeannie Darcy. It was Don't Get Me Started. Were you very monotone? Is that what you said? Yeah. She's kind of like on the spectrum maybe, but trying to get into standup comedy has a lot of dreams, but really not gifted. But she's like, don't get me started. Don't even get me started. And she does comedy. It's about dating, but she's probably like, you know, very out of touch with herself. But so she does, but I love doing that character. I did it at the very end of SNL and I purposely did it to not get any laughs because I was kind of sick of it. Oh, I love that. I got to make a move. That's funny. That I did the opposite. That's great. Yeah. And I really just did it. Because your jokes aren't really nailing it, right? They're probably bad, right? Yeah. Intentionally bad. Yeah. And I did it to kind of make Jimmy Fallon laugh and Will Ferrell laugh. It was really kind of just for them. And the audience did not get it at all, which was perfect because I wanted it to be like dead, silent crickets. Yeah, not pushing. And it took a while to get it on because you know if you put something through once and it doesn't get on, you really shouldn't push it again. It's got a stink on it. But I pushed it through again and it finally got on update. I love it. And it was great. Were you with Jimmy? I did it. Yes, I did it with Jimmy. Yes, I did it with Jimmy. And then Scott Waineya wrote a version where I was performing at an old age home and like don't get me started. Don't even get me started. Yeah, I remember that. I think when men leave the toilet seats up and she would do this dorky comedy about men versus women. And basically in the sketch, there were people dying in the old age home being wheeled out who would die. Their pulse has stopped and I'm still doing my stand up and I have no, I don't, the character has no sense of, she doesn't care if people are laughing or yeah, so it's the most fun. So do you feel like you're more confident like that? I feel like I was the most confident the day I stepped off SNL. Is that right, Dana? Yeah. I always have a part of me like maybe two more seasons because I finally didn't give a fuck in the best sense of that expression. Yeah. Do you feel like at that point you're making Jimmy Fallon laugh? I mean, you must have evolved in terms of just, you know, after doing, you did a hundred shows, you just feel different about doing SNL, right? At that point, there's a confidence. That's true. I think Lauren's world is so different than Hollywood. Like Lauren doesn't care when anybody thinks he's like, I like them help take somebody and he doesn't care. He does his own thing. That's what I found refreshing. Whereas maybe I felt the town of Hollywood before I got SNL was a little more like kind of people following people or, you know, Lauren just decides what he wants and he doesn't care what's been. I know. He is a master of the universe. And they leave you alone. They don't fight him on everything. Yeah, he's so good. So I really liked Lauren's world. And yes, I felt like it was like a comedy boot camp. I felt like, I got to a point there where I really started to enjoy it. I was like, you know what, I'm not going to worry about if I get something on or not. I'm just going to enjoy it like a creative arts camp. Like I'm working with these amazing writers and such talented people that if I start to look at it more as like an arts camp, like a fun, you know, that then I could enjoy it more. I mean, look, we all know it's competitive, of course. But I changed my philosophy about it like three quarters of the way through there. I just started to really enjoy it. It's fun. Like pretend like it's like a summer camp for creative people. Did people call me down? Because when I was battling nerves, we've talked to Bill Hayter and others around the nerves of SNL. Yes. And then I'd come out and I would see, the church lady said, and I would see Phil in his costume, Phil Hartman. And I would see Jan and they would call me down. I'm like, these are my people and loving. They're so good. Like you're so much fun to have people that are pretty much whatever damage, why we do this, who we are in this little tribe against the world. It's nice, isn't it? That is so cool. It sounds like what you're saying is that you would just feel like you're just with them and you could like tune out the album. Well, what would you say? Well, Farrell there and you're walking into the set or Amiga yourself. You got somebody to go. It's going to kind of calm you down a little bit. You're more excited and you're in it together. Exactly. I actually, Will and I wrote the sketch once where we were two characters. We did it center stage, so there's no excuse to not get a lot of laughs. That's the... Because it was easier. And we played two characters who'd recently lost 100 pounds. And the sketch tanked. That's right. Not a laugh. But Will and I made a deal when we went out there. We were like, okay, if it's just crickets, we're just going to commit harder. See, I love that. And we were looking at one another and like a twinkle in our eye like, oh, shit, we are bombing. And then we just performed it harder and harder. Like, can you believe it's 100 pounds? And nobody was laughing. I wish I could have a copy of this sketch. And it was just exactly like you say, Dana, like such a bonding. It's like, it's all I cared about was me and Will. Will and me. Nobody else matters. And this might be the most fun I have ever had. And I feel like you have to embrace the bombing as much as the scoring because they really go together. You know what I mean? Well, it might be a clever or bit because sometimes the audience doesn't... If they don't get it, they sometimes feel like they're missing it. And they go, this is good because in the old days you do a sketch like, Cheeburger, Cheeburger. They don't know why it's funny. And then they go, remember that great sketch? And Dan Hackerwood goes, oh, Conan's bombed three times. They would just keep doing it. And then finally it clicks in. The people go, I love this one. And it takes a while to get why it's funny. And sometimes it's not so easy where it's just like, joke, joke, jokes. Or I'm a crazy character. And they go, I get that. But when you're doing something very dry, that's fun. And if they stick with it, sometimes by the end of the sketch or the next time you do it. Molly, you do all these styles. You do this sort of very subtle acting. Yeah. And then you're doing Mary Catherine Gallagher. Yeah. And so that would be if the sound broke at a bar, they're watching SNL. And the sound was off. That was still going to get laughs. And then it was also funny with the sound. It did was like an atomic bomb of comedy, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, that's so sweet. That character was so fun. I mean, yeah. Did you not audition with that? Or am I crazy? I did not audition for that because there was a woman who around town who was calling herself kind of the unofficial talent scout who I won't say her name. But she was like, whatever you do, don't do that. Little character Mary Catherine Gallagher. When you audition for Lauren, because if you do that, you'll never get hired. What? So I listened to her. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? What a brainwash. Well, I had it with Church Lady. You did, didn't you? I had managers that said, doing that too much in your act, my stand up. You're coming off gay. You know, this is the 80s. So worst case scenario. The 80s. I'm going to only do five minutes out of a 75-minute stand up sound. I'm only doing five minutes. No, it's too much. You're coming off gay, kid. Interesting. And did you do it when you had that stand up audition, when Lauren, Michael, was there with Brandon Targoff? Yes. Yes. Yeah, that was in my quiver. And I bet Lauren loved it. Lauren was, he said he knew at that moment. You know, I went through a further audition and I was terrified, but he said he'd already decided at that moment. And so I love Lauren. I love the Lauren. You know what? Things great about Lauren, because you're making me a nostalgia for him. Yeah. Is that he loves funny people. He loves us. We bomb, he loves this. He just loves it. We're doing this. Yeah, yeah. He really does. It's so sweet. He is truly a legend. And the thought of him not being there is just, I can't even imagine it. It's his show. You mean the show. It's his show. It's him. They become one. They've integrated. And he has so much love. You know, people don't know that about him. And he's such a deep thinker and loyal and funny and so intelligent. And you still talk to him ever? Do you ever do with partway? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, it's fun to talk to him after the show. He's sort of as this, you know, he's a little intimidating at first because he's so like, but he's so vulnerable underneath all that. It's still your boss. Always forever. It'll be like, that's my boss. Yeah. But he's sentimental. I mean, now that I'm after I turned 60, I just tell people I love them and stuff really casually. Sandler did it when he was in his 20s. You're coming off gay. You're coming off gay. That's what Sandler said. So funny. Your agent calls you out of the blue. I heard you told your friend you loved him. Yeah, you're coming gay. Are you still there on that lady character? Double gay. I knew it. Get out of my sight. That's a stick. Wait, who's the manager who said that? You can't say. Oh, no, that's okay. You don't have to say. You don't have to say. It, yeah. It was, you know, look, they, it was the 20s, the 80s, and you know, whatever. I don't want to say, but it was a big talent agency. And I don't think they were trying to fuck with me. They really believed that because if you're not listening to the character, well, well, well, just sounds like, you know, you could say, you're playing a stereotypical, I'm playing some effeminate character instead of a churchly. So I'm a clever churchly character. So it's very clever. Listen up. Huh? That means you. Yes, you. We know you're pointing at yourself. When it comes to party power games, we've got a place made for all sorts. From the experts to the drama queens. It's me, the JC. The finance bros. Look at those stocks, lads. We'll stick with slots. It's what we're good at. And not forgetting you. Yes, you, the one listening. Because at party power games, we've got all sorts of games for all sorts of trickles. Eligibility rules and terms and conditions apply. Please come for responsibly. AtomPlus, CamelAware.org. We should talk about the injuries you took. Because that was a big part of your book. Yeah. I am okay. I'm all right. Orthopedically. Because I remember you threw yourself around like, Farley, and he would be really in pain. And I think I remember when I was still there, we had overlaps because we did play store. You guys were cast members together. But and lovers. And you weren't, were, I know you wrote, but were you also paid as a writer or not? No. Not the whole run. Paid as a writer? No. Just a performer. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. Everyone there. We all wrote. I think they dropped my writing credit when I went full cast. But it was, but everyone still writes for themselves, obviously. Yeah, we write. And people at home don't know that if you write, it's fun to write with a writer from the show, because you have to have someone watch it, you know, like from the booth when you're rehearsing. If you write it yourself and there's no one else involved, who's watching? I don't even know who watches it. So you kind of write to get yourself on the show. You got connected with Steve. It's a writing job. Steve Corrin. Who'd you write the best with? It was Corrin. I wrote with so many different people like Paula Pell and Steve Corrin. And, but basically it feels like when I first got there, I was, I was so, you know, oh my gosh, how do you figure this out? But it just takes, you know, feeling comfortable with one person in the room. I think you have to be able to be yourself. But I always tell people who are trying to get into writing, if you just have that one person it could be in the room with where you don't feel dumb throwing out ideas and you can really fully be yourself. That's all it takes, you know? Or write by yourself. And if you're a writer, it's good to lock into someone else that's good because if you can write for someone, you see these writers that are like Tim Hurley, he's with Sandler for every movie. Like there's a lot of people that are double up and they just do movie after show after movie. And it really is important to find someone you can lock into on the show. I think what I'm saying about Mary Catherine, I think they were using steel folding chairs. And I remember going, are those real steel folding chairs? There's no, it's just she keeps falling on her feet. I remember feeling worried for you. I mean, I've seen it live like, whoa, that look gnarly on back on whatever you're falling on. I was kind of reading your book last night, like you were like another type of Farley. I mean, I don't think many people threw themselves around the 8H, like you did in that character. And you kind of got in a hypnotic state in a way or you'd be, well, you just talk about that. Yeah, I felt nothing. I didn't feel the pain when it was going on. I would throw myself into metal chairs and do crazy stuff. And I look at that now and I'm like, oh my God, I'm so glad I didn't break my neck or, you know, my back. Yeah, I wasn't even thinking about that. But then the next day when I would wake up, I would definitely feel like all my muscles hurt and I would have cuts and bruises. And so I would feel the next day. But I also liked it because I felt like I worked really hard and threw myself into the character. And I really did want to perform and be physical and be like the boys when I started. And I really wanted to do that. And then it also helped me kind of pour my nervous energy into the character because I was so nervous. So the physical aspect of it felt like a release. I got that. Yeah, yeah. And so how big, what was the evolution of that becoming a movie? You did it and then you did it and then it became a huge hit and it was exploding. And when you come out and you get applause, I mean, that feels great, right? That feels so good. I guess especially because, well, it took a while to get on because I put it at the read-through. And then Lauren liked it right away. He was like, let's wait and save it and we'll do it with Gabriel Byrne. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Perfect. Yeah, so then Gabriel Byrne came. But then for the show order that week, for the dress rehearsal, it was at the bottom. And I was like, why is it at the bottom? Which means it's probably going to get cut for the dress show. It was late in the show. It was late in the show. Like the dress schedule. They think it's not going to make it. They think it's not going to make it. Yeah, they don't have a lot of it. And so I, but that was kind of good because I thought, oh, I'm going to have to show them. And I think because I'd read it at the table, they weren't understanding how physical it was going to be. And because I'd done it in my show, that character in my show for so many years, I knew what it was. When I did it in my stage show, I would climb the walls and get up on the rafters and they'd have to peel me down off the wall. So I, And did you have the outfit? Sorry. Did you have the outfit in the stage show? And no, in the stage show, I think I just wore a black skirt. She became a Catholic school girl. Because that was a very funny look with the underwear on her. Yeah, it was the underwear. Bobby socks, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. So then I thought I'm really going to have to show them. So that was kind of good. So for the dress show, I just really went crazy performing it and people went crazy. It got such a great response. And then I went into Lauren's office between dress and air to see what made it to the live show and my sketch got moved from the bottom of the show to the top. Yeah, number one. The same thing up with the church lady. Is that one? Something about these characters. Did you have the smell, the armpits and superstar on the first one? I did superstar as a joke. I threw it in for my friend because we used to always, my friend Deborah Palermo, as a joke, I used to always go superstar. So I did it for her. I threw, I exited the stage as Mary Catherine Gallagher. Then I came back in and slid on chairs and just under my breath went superstar for my friend at home watching to make her laugh. Oh, funny. So we just threw it in back then we kept it in as like a real thing. Then it became, it's just like a great ex-malation point. Someone who just fell all over the place and owning it. Yes, exactly. And it's also. I'm so proud of it. Yeah. And it's a representation of my childhood of overcoming hard stuff and still having resilience and hope and maybe stumbling and falling and maybe looks like she's not going to make it. And then they rise above the wreckage. It's a repeated dance of those themes. So you, you were able to, sometimes people ask me where things came from and all that. And I try to come up with an answer sometimes. I'm not sure. Yeah. But you were able for yourself to figure out at some point that that character was a manifestation of stuff that happened to you. Exactly. It was like self-care basically. Yeah. I get to reenact this, but be superstar at the end. Exactly. Without what it got. That's so interesting. Yeah. It's like healing. Yeah. So before I was even in therapy, I would do the character on stage. And I remember our friend came once and they said, oh, that character, the school girl, or wasn't a school girl then, Mary Catherine Gallagher seems, she seems angry. I was like, angry really? I didn't, I thought, oh, that's interesting. But because the original scene was just a girl auditioning to try to be in a David Lynch movie and we would just improvise it. Right. And I'd be like, no, no, you're not understanding. And I have to prove myself and get this person to like me and cast me. And so it's just a little exercise in trying to be seen and understood. And so, yes. So that's where art can save people. You know what I mean? That performance as a release. And does that make sense? So sometimes you can be in the, in like, so in your work and being creative and not realize what it is you're trying to express and not be able to be objective about it till later. Does that make sense? Yeah. I think, you know, in a cartoon way, I think that's a really evolved way to think of things in that character. I did a lot of passive aggressive characters because I had trouble expressing anger because I grew up with a lot of anger in the household. So you were just taught to suppress it. So Hans and Franz, I don't know. Yo, you kind of even looking at me and you know, church lady. Well, you're an old quaint no one you're doing. So all my characters was kind of angry initially. Interesting. And passive aggressive. I guess that was healing. So let me ask you a question. So you felt so in your house, but you said that your dad could be really aggressive and violent. Yeah, I didn't violate them for more. But you had to, did you, how did you survive it? HLs, I'm going to disappear basically. So we weren't like, I asked Sandler about that, Abash, oh, and his family was just like, they could yell at each other, nose to nose. You want to get some ice cream? Okay. You know, healthy. Yeah. This was not that. But it was the sixties, five kids, a lot of independence. See you later. You know, so I mean, I survived. And what was your mom like? She was sort of very sweet, but very dainty and very much under his thumb. And she was the artsy one. Interesting. And she, you know, these big families, you know, we raise each other a lot. We scrambled. It was like if there was a sugary cereal, get it now. You know, that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, it's very interesting. It's always fascinating. Like David, he had an easy childhood. So it's still, he's so fucking funny, but with just a, oh no. David, David, what you, David, you were raised by your mom? Yes. I'll take this question from Molly. Yes. You were raised by your mom. Uh, my mother, I was saying about Dana's mother, like it sounds like mine. She was very like creative and she was a writer and she loved artsy stuff and always wanted us to do anything like that that we thought was, my brother was more artistic, you know, anything common, anything she loved, she loved writing. So she would always push that, but that the dad wasn't around. I think you had sort of the reverse of that with your mom and you had a tough, I think it's funny because all these comedians, it just always sort of was the same type of story where it's just tough, you know, and a lot of people have tough growing up with I mean, that's, we're not, we're not a lot. And they're not all comedians. Yeah. So it's just, it's just, that's why we're not that special in that regard, but I did, I was lucky to have a mom that was very, you know, she had it dealt some tough cards, but she tried her best and the dad wasn't around, but I think the mom really tried to make up for it, you know. That's great. And she was great, still around. Thank God. Because that's a tough one. And I think that it just did, it plays into everything, you know. Yeah. It only takes one. It's like, I think you need something. If you have one good parent. I like to figure sweets, they say having a champion. And when it was reading your book this morning, your dad became your champion, like you can do anything. My mom was like that with all of her siblings, you know. So it was, we did, we were out of power. With all her children or all her siblings. With all her, all of us kids. Oh, with all of you kids. That's so great. You know, so she supported that way. Did she stay married to your dad? She did. She did. That's so interesting. Interesting. You know, 1940s, 1930s. I understand, it's that generation. You don't leave your parents. Well, let me ask you this. So, so she, so did you feel like you had to be more like her? No, I kind of, I kind of took care of her. Yeah. Yeah. You did. I was her surrogate husband. That's so interesting. That makes sense. That's, I had that a little bit with my father too. There's nothing to be embarrassed about with that. Oh no, it was just normal codependency. How do you, how do you get attachment? How do you get loving by behaving this way? You get it, you don't. I went to therapy too. Maybe you went to the same therapist. You are, I have to say, I don't know how much more time we have. We've already guessed quite like you. You're so, you're so interested in us and we love it. Well, I was so interesting. Well, you guys are so talented and, and I have to say it's so fun doing the show because I would rather hear you guys talk. Yes. We would too. But I know that we were listening to this particular episode want to hear about Molly Shannon. Well, I like talking about anything like that because I think that that's, it's helped so much. I like talking about it. Therapy helps so much. Yeah. How long did you go? A long time. Okay. I went five years, but maybe I'll go back. That's great. Because she's driving me nuts. Molly says it's good. It's an interesting disposition because you're always upbeat and you're such a good listener. And even we don't have to talk about it, but when we were at that norm thing the other day, you're such a good articulate speaker and you speak from the heart about any subject and just weren't out and you meet people. You're just very locked in. It's very hard. You don't see that a lot. You think you do, but you don't. And so it's very, and then your whole upbringing and just to this point in your comic, it's just we're also been to the ringer in a weird way. And it's funny because when you finally make it, you're like, what the fuck was that about? Was it worth it? But you're very, I just have to give you a compliment that when you're out and about, she's got such a good vibe about it. Everyone loves this. You must have a lot of friends. Is if you're a curious person, people like that. That's a, you don't know what I was going to say, but don't you think like sometimes I think going through that tough stuff when your little does give you that kind of command of an audience, that control, you have to have some kind of weird skill to be able to do what you guys do, get up and perform and know how to hold a crowd. I mean, that's not an easy thing. How do you think your childhood gave you that ability to do, to have that special skill? Oh, God, these are really good questions. Is this maybe attention? I've actually been recording this. Yeah. Come on. I'm going to use it for my book. It makes no sense. I like Dana. Hello, Dana. That's funny. Well, hello. Oh my God, it feels so good to laugh. One thing I will think though is I don't like, I feel like, I feel like the healthier I become, I feel like I don't want to keep going toward, there's old patterns of going toward pain or this or that you're not good enough. It's like, oh my God, after a while, you know what I mean? When you have your health and this and that, be happy, right? It's like, oh my God, give me a break. Oh, it's a great thing. I have to ask you about the show where you, QVC, it's called I Love That For You. I love that for you. And we talked to your lovely co-star. You know we talked to your lovely co-star. You talked to Vanessa. I actually saw the first two episodes last night. I saw one. That's so sweet. I love when you do characters and then the character does a little character voice. It's so funny. That's such a specific thing only you could say. Oh, I love it. Just do a little bit because you're like QVC. Because you're talking and then you're like, whatever you do. You're for the people at home. Yes. I mean, in the car. This is on Showtime with Vanessa Bayer. Yes, I love that for you. And Molly Shannon, I love that for you. It's a really cool, smart show. You say what it is. Oh yeah, I play a host of a home shopping network and I'm like the queen salesperson and I can sell stuff like, this is the cutest little jar of sugar you see, you know. And Vanessa taught me how to do it, but this is what these women do and they're very good at selling stuff. It's very funny to watch. Yeah. But Vanessa grew up watching it, so it's based on her childhood. Vanessa and I are both from Cleveland, Ohio. And Vanessa is another one who she seems almost like she could be a psychotherapist, not an actress. She's very calm and real. And did you find that? Yeah, definitely. She's so grounded and very connect. I could see why you two would connect. Yeah, yeah. And you played, Molly, you saw one and she plays there, the QVC girl. And it is kind of funny for you because I like it because it's very calming to hear those people talk like you said. And you're just so happy. I could just drone on and watch them for a while because they're very interested in what they're talking about. They're very interested in the audience. And they're just talking to you and they don't fucking stop. And they showed Vanessa going through the audition process of that show. And it seems very hard that show. Made me scared to be on QVC because you just got to run it. And then they have a graph showing when the sales go down. You say something wrong. And you go and she accidentally smells something. It acts like it smells kind of bad for a half a second. And then you go, the sales fucking plummeted. Yeah. Just now a half a second. I have a friend who trained for it for a shampoo line. And he said he was terrible. But they put you through training. And there's a certain type of language I have to use. But he said if you talk about like mama or God, the ratings go up. Like my mama says, this sugar is the best. Thank God, you know, church on Sunday, sales tick, tick, tick. So there's a certain thing. I wonder what we should say in this podcast to make our ratings go up. I know. You don't say anything. Hallelujah, David. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Praise. No, I don't want to say that. So anyway. I don't go for ratings. Yes, I do. No, I do. Molly, we are on. So, Molly, how do you, how, so yeah. Do you like apples? Do you like apples? What's your favorite? Have you ever? I know you like half chickens. Can I ask you a question? Have you ever had a dinner, been to it like a group dinner, and just there was like a little bit of a silence or a low on the conversation, just said something just to fill the air. David, you go first. That's all I do. That's a good one. Yeah, I go to like apples. I go, I already asked you. I go to, I go to what's your net worth? That gets everyone going. Oh, nice. That gets everyone going. Have you ever encountered anything supernatural besides meeting me? And then people have ghost stories. And that, I did that with Julia Roberts and Tom Hanks and these people at this Shakespearean comedy show. What's that? What is that? Tom would have, you would go on and you would do Shakespeare, but you could do it any way you wanted. So I was just doing it as like, hey, how you doing on Shakespeare? You know, it's just like, it's a big charity event he does. And this was 10 years ago. So then Julia Roberts and all these actors and we're all around the table and it's a little bit of like that small talk. Well, I think so you too. And I go, have you guys ever seen a ghost or any supernatural thing and then everyone has a story? Yeah. So Molly Shannon. That's great. I ask you. Yeah, do you have a date? Encountered. A UFO or a ghost. Something you couldn't explain that kind of freaked you out. I lived in this apartment in Hollywood that Man Ray used to live in. I like your question Dana. And when I was a struggling actress with my roommate, Brian Donovan, and it had cathedral ceilings and it was across an El Pollo local on the corner of Fountain and Vine. And I had just like a loft. I love that. That's scary over there. Yeah, a little scary. I love that El Pollo. There was an old Hollywood. Franklin Hotel or something. Yeah. Yeah, it's a. It's a bit sketch though. And we lived there together and I remember we had a party and this guy, this guy was at the party was like, damn ghost in here. And I said, really? Where was he from? He was from Arkansas. Does that scare you though about ghosts? That would scare me. No, because I didn't really believe. But I would have dreams at night. I don't know if it was sleep paralysis, but I would have a dream where I was being held down in only in that apartment. What did you ever have that day? I've had it. Wow. San Yercedro Ranch, which I made my wife. We left the hotel in the middle of the night. And I had it twice. And I'm like, what the fuck is this? But that's a push down, like a feeling. It's from Nightmares. The feeling of a horse lying down on you. And then I had the house we have up in Northern California. It's from 1909. I had it in there. Also a white noise I had in there too. Interesting. Why is everyone sleeping? Come on, I was going, what the? Where's that going? No. Yeah. You're only those two things. Your brains are the friends. But I'm not afraid of anything anymore really at this age. That's so good. But what happened? So he says, ghosts, did you meet the ghost? No, but I would just feel like I was being held down or I would feel like there was somebody at the edge of the bed holding my feet down. And then I would wake up and it was only in that apartment where I left it never happened again. Isn't that weird? But we got a call. We got Dan Ackroyd on this podcast. He loves this stuff. He loves it. He's into it. Wow. That's so cool. He would really be fascinated by that. Oh my gosh. But you would, I would be scared shitless. Yeah. I was a lot scared. When I hear any noises, I'm scared. And I had another scary thing at that apartment too where there was in my bedroom a peeping Tom in the alley like I saw a headlock. It was changing. And I was like, peeping. And so then I ran out to the front and called the security guard. I was like, Andrew, Andrew, come here, come here. Hurry, hurry. And he came, came into the door. And I almost have to get up and demonstrate, but I don't want to go away from the microphone. Walked in and he came in, what, what, what. And then while he was in the door, he got in and then he slammed the door shut with his foot. And it was within seconds that I realized, oh no, that was him. And now I just let him into my apartment. Oh, wow. Isn't that scary? He was like this, I'm going to demonstrate. He was like, what, what, what, what, what, what, what. Molly's standing up. And he closed the door and like, he's kicking her foot back. Oh. Scary. And now you lock the game in the right. That's what with you. Then he was in the room with it. But I did quickly get him out because my, I just was like, oh. Did you figure it out? I was like, you know what, I didn't figure it out. And you realize, he's the killer in the alley. Oh, I didn't see anything anymore. You can go now. Yeah, I was like, oh. Me? Me. Me. You know what? You think there's a killer in the alley? You should have done, Molly. He should have closed the door while you were behind him. And he should have gone, he's not in the alley anymore. And then he goes, he's in your room and turned to you. And then you would have gone, oh my god. Oh my god. Did you ever see that movie, When a Stranger Calls? Calls come from inside the house. I can't. It's been losing alone in a 19,000 square foot house. I'm scared. With no securities. Are you David? Well, I definitely haven't seen any scary movies. I would not see it. You wouldn't see it. I didn't see the Exodus. I didn't see any of the Biggies. No. No. No. Why am I inviting, I have enough nightmares. I want to add. You want to add? No. No. Exactly. There's no more room. Too stressful. All right, Molly, let's, let's get Molly. She's been, she's been great. We have one final question. Yes. She's the greatest guess ever. What did you eat for breakfast? Dana first. Dana first. Dana first. The same thing I have every day, Molly. I had one egg and one egg white. What a pig. I had some avocado I sliced up. Yeah. I had a piece of sourdough. You're gay. Toast. You're gay. You're getting gay. That's the name of the episode. So avocado toast. Yum. And those two things. And then my wife made a thing she calls a green drink, a little bit of pear and spinach and stuff like that. And what did you have? That sounds exactly like my breakfast. I had a gelsons half a chicken. No. I just had a smoothie. I had a banana almond milk smoothie right before I came. David, what did you have? You know, the big story is when you said that my gelsons, when I moved out here to stay with the funny boys, did you stand up? I had no money. And I just had change. And he goes, you can keep the, there's change up on the counter if you want it. So I felt so embarrassed. But when I went to do stuff, I would scrape the change. And I went to Ralph's on found way down there. Yeah. There's Ralph's or something. And then I went and I got the rotisserie chicken and the thing, same thing. And just took a heart. Because this is a lot of food. I was like, Kujo, I ate a heart. And they come home, I go, Kujo. Kujo. Kujo over here. I really went at it because I hadn't eaten all day. And then I know if I get a spot at the improv, you get a free pineapple chicken where it's like a little breast with a pineapple circle on top. Wooft. Yeah. Because that was it. You don't know where the next one is. And so, but this morning eggs. Oh, eggs. Eggs, scram. And the only interesting thing I've welled on bacon. That's not that interesting. And then I have a little. Bacon, what's your plain oatmeal, sir? A little plain oatmeal, no bread. Yes. Uh, don't want to. Try not to eat too much wheat now. God, we're so old. No, it's horrible. Sourdough, it's the most benign. Come on, it's Joe Biden, a sourdough. Okay. How do I, just have some flation. I'm doing Biden. Is that some flation? It's a flation. It's a part of the Caribbean. Isn't it a joke? Or is it no joke? It's no joke. It's no joke. Oh, no, I'm not getting around here. Biden's always saying it's no joke. Final question. Yes. Oh, we were getting the last one on her. Yeah. The decks are clear. The kids are great. Everything, what's a Molly's Super Day? Like your mental health day. This is Molly's day off. Okay, I like that question. I definitely like to exercise because it relaxes me. You go for a hike walk. Run? Run? Are you sure? Run? Yeah, run. That's great. I ran this morning because it calms me down. That's great. I just can't do it anymore. I hike though. You can't, well, hiking is so good. It has to go up a hill though. That's amazing. So you start out with a run. Running, and I would listen to a good podcast or a good interview or the daily or NPR or books on tape. So I'll do that while I'm running. And then I also like swimming. So a good day would be to swim for one hour. Wow. Yes. You're my hero. That's what I want to do. Makes me feel so happy. I've been starting to attempt to do it because they have a little pool at this one house. Oh, that's so nice. So where do you swim? I swim. We have a pool in our backyard. So it's like 40 feet or 30 feet, 40 feet. I'm not sure. Yeah, maybe. That's what pools are for. So you go back and forth. You're switching strokes. You work on those. I just do the breaststroke the whole time. And I also listen to interviews when I'm swimming. Do you get your hair wet? So how do you do that? I just have a speaker. I just have a speaker. I don't have the earpods, but I just have a speaker. So I'm really like, you know. Oh, you're kind of like this and it's on the side of the pool. Exactly. So you come out. What gets you more just zen down the run or the swimmers? It's just the two together. That's a really good question. I would say, what do you think? I'm just coming on to the idea of swimming. So I feel like, especially if it's deprivation where you have earplugs and it's like people come out of the pool like, whoa, in my olden times, my other times, I think hard cardiovascular breaking a sweat. But basically, let's put it this way. Your perfect day is 10 a.m. And you're basically blasted in a good way. Exactly. Back to your run and your hour swim. After my run, so relaxed. So you're just like this. And now what do you do? Exactly. Then I guess if it's like a perfect day too, I might go to a steam, get a nice steam or sauna. And it makes me so relaxed. And I'm like, great. Now you're super relaxed. You have to sports out. Well, you're asking like a really fun day. This is like the one like, this would be while my kids are in school if I have a little bit of free time. The decks are clear. Then I would maybe, I mean, if it's a dream day, maybe I would, I mean, I haven't done this for a while, but I would love to go to a pretty park in nature and sit and do creative visualization if you're asking for a dream day. Like a meditative visualization. Yeah, meditative kind of writing. No, yeah. That's some writing. I know some part of these things you do all the time, but now it's loaded into one day. Yeah, loaded into one day. But then let's see what happens. Did you go out to dinner with your husband? Oh my God. Well, that's later, say, after I put it up. Later, yeah. My husband likes to stay in and cook. So I don't, but I love going out for dinner with friends, but he likes to cook dinner and stay in. And of course my ideal, my favorite thing is just spending time with my children. So they're 17 and 18. And I'm going to pick my son up today at school. And my daughter and I are going to get acupuncture today. So I like stuff like that. You know, stuff that makes your body feel good. Yeah, do you ever think you make you feel better? Yeah. Do you watch any entertainment? Do you watch movies? Do you watch dramas? Yes, I just finished watching the dropout, Mike's show, Walter's show with Amanda Seyfried. I loved it. That was so good. And my husband and I love documentaries. We're watching Love on the Spectrum right now on Netflix. Oh, Rosie's watching the... We're getting some high fives in the room. Love on the Spectrum. Just watch Pam and Tommy. Did you watch? It was so funny. Tommy's sons bought my old house in Encino. Really? Yeah, I just saw the picture of that. That's so cool. And they're in my recording studio and in my pool. But I'm happy for them. Go ahead. And yeah, but no, yeah, my husband and I love documentaries. That's our favorite. Yeah. So watching TV with your husband, hanging with your kids. Hanging with my kids. Sana, Jacuzzi, meditation, be it a park, relaxing. Go to the steam. Yeah. Steam. Yes. Okay, I love that answer. Yeah, exactly. I'm relaxed just hearing that. Oh, good. And just hanging out in the house is so fun with my kids. There's nothing that makes me happier than just having a free day where you could just stay in your house and do whatever you want. I love that. Yeah, I love being a dad. I love that feeling with my kids. Isn't it the greatest? Yeah, me too. It's my... Well, Molly Shannon is her... Tell me your book. It's called Hello Molly. Yes. A great title. Yeah. Because you can never forget it. I love Molly. Don't you think? It's just so clean. It's not like my journey to the thing. What was the name of your book, David? It's stupid. It's not Hello Molly. I'll play it. It was... Mine's harder to deal with. What was it called? I think it was called... Oh, one of them was called... This is a good one. A Polaroid Guy in a Snapchat World. But... A Polaroid Guy in a Snapchat World. It's a cool name. A Polaroid Guy in a Snapchat World. Because I talk about how the differences when I grew up, now it is now, everything's different. Mm-hmm. I like that title. That's a nice use. But Hello Molly's so clean. Hello Molly's... Boom. And it's off the title. You can sing it. That's what's good. And you're also... I love that for you. Hello Molly. She's won awards. You've worked consistently ever since you left SNL. It seems like you're always doing stuff with Will. And they're hiring you for this and that. Now you're in this show. Life is good. You're healthy. You can run. That's cool. That's cool. Swim we learned. Yes. Swimming. Breath stroke only. Well, you do or you do, you don't get your hair wet. That's what we other people want to know. If I have a... I know I like that that you're asking David. If it's a nice blowout, I would probably toss it up because I wouldn't want to ruin it. And then you go on above the water. Yeah, above. And just a very meditative back and forth. Yes, with some good reading material. Maybe I would listen to a New Yorker article on autumn. The album. I do love that about modern digital technology. Isn't it the best? Just you're driving and you can listen to World War II books. And like so, Hitler decided it was too late. You know what I mean? I just can't get enough of that stuff. Is that right, Dana? Oh, I love documentaries too. I kind of like everything. I'm pretty... If wife wants to watch The Crown, I love The Crown. And I like 2001. I see that every year when she's not around. You know? Yeah, yeah. So I like all of it. But I mostly like dramas and adventures and stuff. Yeah, exactly. Did you see the original staircase documentary? It's on Netflix now. That's excellent. About the guy who maybe pushed his wife down the stairs? Yes. Yes. That's a good one. You know what? Those things, if you want to look for dysfunction, cow sills. About a 60s pop band, family band, it's about their dysfunctional family. Very reminiscent of mine in some ways, but it's also their fame and their trajectory. The cow sills, I think it's called on Netflix. Oh, that sounds good. Yeah. Ted Serendis' cousin. Yeah, wow. I also support Netflix on this podcast. For my special on Netflix. Hot Ted, call us. All right, bye guys. Nice to meet you. Okay. Okay, good. Yay. Yay, we did it. Part two. Yay. 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