Rubbin' Feets: A Real Housewives of Rhode Island Recap

It's easier to accept a story than believe that the people around you are monsters. From the creators of The Handmaid's Tale, Blessed be the fruit, the Testaments, exclusively on Disney+. We gather here tonight to bring women back to their rightful place. A defiant coming-of-age story. Nobody cares what we want. There was time for us to change things. The Testaments, a new Hulu original series, exclusively on Disney+. 18 plus subscription required. T's and C's apply. There it is, her suspicious face. She doesn't believe you. All you did was tell her your shirt was Chanel. She said, What's Chanel? You said, Don't know, but you do know it feels chic, and so does she. She felt it for almost too long, then you gave her 12 to show off the fit. She nearly spat out her coffin. You deliver the final bombshell? It's from Primark, only 14 quid. Surprises served. Shockingly chic for £14. That's so Primark. Available in-store and on Click and Collect. With LV, I can get my home insurance from just £133. They've made it easy for me to get a great price. And their 24-7 emergency helpline lets me look after what matters to me, because insurance is simple when it's me and LV. No wonder we rated excellent on TrustPilot. Get your quote today at LV.com. 10% of new customers paid £133 or less July to December 2025. LV General Insurance is part of Allianz. From what I've ever seen of Brian and Ruella, they've always looked like the perfect couple. They've always looked super happy. However, there are echoes all around Rhode Island that Brian's got a mystery. Hello, you guys. Welcome back to another episode here at Everyone's Business, but mine with me, Cara Berry. We're getting into episode two of season one of Real Housewives of Rhode Island. And these chicks, I mean, damn, damn, let's just get into it, because there was so much to talk about. We start out with Jerry and Liz. They're going to Jerry's parents' house. Liz and Jerry have been married 11 years. She loves his parents. They're fabulous people. They're planning on having two sides of the family coming over. And by two sides, I mean, Liz's stepdaughter, Brianna, who is newly pregnant in her two months. She got knocked up two months into her new relationship. She's now with this dude, Zach. So Zach's family is also coming over. Monja, have a little Italian-style notch. Let's get to know each other. Liz says, even though I did not give birth to these girls, I feel like a part of my blood runs through them. And there was a time where, when they were little, the girls had completely moved in full time, I guess, because they're biological mother. They were not ready. They were not ready. Very clearly, Liz has some opinions about the girls' mother. And they're not great. But she says it was a big change. Those girls coming in didn't think it was happening this way. I kind of saw myself having my own kids, but Jerry's kids ended up fulfilling that need. As far as what her step-mama of a baby's name is going to be, no grandma, no grandma, anything, I'm going to be Gigi. Gigi for gonjagrama. That was my, that was me. After this, Ashley and Joellen go to the park. They have kids around the same age. Why did Joellen throw a ball towards, I think, his Ashley's son and tell him to go play fetch? Girl, Ashley says there are some rumors going around the state. This gags me. They all talk about like the rumors going around. Everybody, the whole state's been talking about me. Everybody in the state knows this. Everybody in the state thinks this. And I think they're right, you know? According to Ashley, the whole state thinks Joellen can be quite the bitch. But they got along pretty much immediately. It was love at first sight for them. So she's good. Joellen says, I'm so glad you had fun at my fourth of July party. I kind of feel like your first impression of me at the pick and nick wasn't so great. And Ashley's like, honestly, I wasn't even fazed by it. You're fine. So Joellen tells Ashley, I'm feeling some type of way about Rosie bringing up Kelsey's relationship. And I actually like ran that shit back to Kelsey and told her, Ashley is like, well, how about you guys just turn over a new leaf? You and Rosie. Joellen says, I think I can do that. But she also says in a confessional, it's not that I don't like Rosie. I just don't think we have like a personality match. But we do have similarities. We both get the same aesthetic treatments. We're both brunettes. She's very photogenic. Sometimes I am too. That's all I got for now. So then Joellen asks Ashley, how's Jared doing? How's the business doing? Ashley, she's not happy. She says it's a constant stress. I want to support his dream. But I had no idea that there's this term called a bar widow where the husband's at work all the time. And then when he is at home, he's so stressed out. He's constantly feeling like he's failing. But, you know, I feel like there are some shiny days, some sunshine. But those days are few and far between. It's just like kind of hard to always think about the fact that Jared's not happy. And then he is telling me it's not you that's making me unhappy. It's not the kids that's making you unhappy. I just feel like I'm not bringing enough to the table financially. And she didn't say financially, but that's basically what she said. And then she starts crying. Crying a little swing at a playground. Can you imagine? Tragic. Joellen tells her, well asks Ashley, like, do you tell him that? That you are enough and that you are contributing financially? And Ashley tells her, yeah, I tell him every day. So Ashley then says in the confessional that despite the fact that Jared is telling her repeatedly his bad moods have nothing to do with her, she finds it really hard not to blame herself. She's always trying to figure out how can I make this man happy? Joellen says, I think Ashley tries to portray like this Instagram perfect family, perfect kids, perfect relationship. But I feel her frustration. She tells Ashley, like, I get it. You're stressed out, but you're also in the thick of it. Like you got these young kids, you have multiple young children. It's a lot going on right now. But you also deserve to have peace of mind too with yourself and within your relationship. So then Kelsey and Liz go for drinks. Waiter comes up thinking that they got a Caesar salad. They're like, this is your salad? Both say no. But then Liz says, maybe Rula ordered it preemptively. Maybe she called the restaurant and was like, have my Caesar salad ready. Liz lets us know. She and Rula have known each other for over a decade. They met through the boating community in Rhode Island. Both of them are half Syrian. She loves a Middle Eastern girl. They get along really well. Kelsey preemptively lets us know. Disclaimer, Rula is very calm, like real monotone. There is one baseline level with Rula. Maybe there's some underlying emotions there, hopefully. Otherwise we got a serial killer on our hands. So Rula pulls up. She asks, what have you guys been up to? And Liz says, will Joe Ellen host at this fourth of July? Fourth of July party. It was super fun. Rula's got a problem already. I already got a problem. Yeah, I feel like I've been more on the outside with this group. So I'm just wondering, what is it with both of you that make you want to hang out with Joe Ellen? Rula says in a confessional, she and Joe Ellen have had their ups and downs, and that Joe Ellen is a rep in the beauty industry, in the beauty business. She and her husband, Brian, know a lot of people in that world. And Joe Ellen comes off as friendly, bubbly, whatever, but that's not the truth. So Rula tells them, you guys said that Joe Ellen was a shit stirrer, and that she was talking about my husband saying that there are rumors, we were getting a divorce, and that my husband's leaving me for a petty fucking slut. And both of them are like, excuse me? Liz tells Rula, you have to know I have your back, right? You know if I hear anything about you, I'm going to call things out. I'm going to let you know. But I also know you, and I know that you're never going to want to admit that some things are fucked up. Liz then tells us everything I've known for Rula and Brian, they're like the picture perfect couple. But there's been echoes all around Rhode Island. Brian's got a mistress. So Kelsey asked Rula, are you open to talking about this? Rula says, what had happened was that her girl Liz called her one day, and then Rula starts bumbling through this story. So Liz just Kool-Aid manned her way right into this conversation, cuts Rula off and says, I said they were posting photos online. And then we see Brian, Rula's husband, with a blonde lady in his lap. We don't see her face because much like Kelsey's boyfriend, it's like ripped, ripped out. Ripped out. Liz says she put Rula in touch with Joe Ellen. So Joe Ellen tells Liz, I got pictures of Brian and his mistress. Liz tells Rula, Joe Ellen's got pictures of Brian and his mistress. Rula then reaches out to Joe Ellen to get the photos. So Rula tells us in a confessional, Joe Ellen had some photos of Brian and that cockroach. At first I thought Joe Ellen was trying to be supportive because that's what it sounded like, until I heard that she had shared the photos with the whole group and was running around town talking about it and that was not okay with me. Rula tries to tell Kelsey and Liz that was an old photo. But Kelsey's like, here's the thing, the photos were posted in December. But the picture clearly she's wearing summer clothes. So like, don't you think maybe this relationship has gone on for a long time? Rula says, no, it was last summer. And Liz says, but what about now? And Rula's like, nothing's happening now, it's done, it's been over, it's not ongoing. Show me that it's ongoing. They don't believe her. The list goes, so it's stopped. And Rula says, what are you insinuating? To which Liz has to be like, babe. Rula says, there's been a lot of talk that my husband was or is involved. Liz and covers her mouth from the camera and goes, but he is ma. But he is, babe, he's there. Rula. Again, another winner on her hands. Rula's clearly very self-possessed because she has to be. She clearly, like she kind of gives shades of Jen Aiden. Like remember in the beginning when we first met Jen, it was very clear that she was happy to be complacent within this relationship, but also everything inside of her was telling her that this was wrong. But she's got kids. It's traditional or whatever, conservative family lifestyle where she was like, well, I really have to like grin and bear it and hold it all together. And I feel like that's very much what Rula's doing. But Rula girl, you don't have to be on this television show girl. Like, because what did you think was going to happen? Did you honestly think? This is what I'm saying. Like the beauty of a great housewife is that she's so aware of herself, but also Rula, I just can't imagine that you thought you were going to go on any television show. The rumors about your husband cheating recently weren't going to come up and that you were going to be like, and nothing else is happening. We're all fine. I don't know what anybody else is talking about. You're sitting here at dinner with your two greatest allies on the show and both of them are looking at you crazy. Like they cannot believe that you're trying to sell them a false bill of goods about what's going on with Brian. Liz tells us it's out there that Brian is still with this woman. So if Rula wants to live in the land of delusion, and then Liz starts speaking in third person and says, I'm sorry, Elizabeth is allergic to bullshit. So Liz tells Rula, you got to stop with the pride thing. Okay, it's not benefiting you. We've all been through it. Rula says, I know you shared with me. You've been through stuff with Jerry. You didn't kick him to the curb. You processed stuff. You took your time. Look at how many years you've been together now. Rula says in a confessional, Liz is shared with me about Jerry's indiscretions. She's done her thing. He's done his. He'd be away on a fishing excursion. And as they say, when the cat's away, the mice will play. I'll leave it at that. Is it a shade when it's also tea for your life? That's the eternal question. And then Rula makes a very big mistake because Liz tells Rula, I get it. You don't want to say anything. Kids are involved. I fully understand. But then Rula tells Liz, when you produce kids with somebody, it's a game changer. Jerry has kids. You don't have your own. But I didn't mean it in a disrespectful way. You know what I'm saying? Liz starts doing the Italian risk. Do you know the one? Which is how I know she's getting activated. Oh, when you produce somebody? Not when you bring them up and they're fucking three kids because their mother didn't do it. But all right, continue Rula. Rula is like, no disrespect. That's not how I meant it. Like, that's exactly how you meant it, ma'am. When you produce kids, and then you went on to say, Jerry has kids. You don't have your own. So that's a confirmation that you do exactly what the fuck you were saying, girl. The rule is like, that's not how I meant it. And Liz is like, well, that's how you said it. And then Liz says in a confessional, no, I did not have my own kids. But you have no idea what I've done in my life. Maybe I'm not producing. And she starts pointing towards her vagina. Her birth canal. Producing. Rula tells Liz, I take it back. I hope you know I didn't mean it that way. Even though I had to get rid of it. But I swear, I swear me and my husband, Brian, have been in a great place. And I would want everybody to disrespect that. Kelsey tells her, I get you. I'm in the same situation. Now here's the tea, y'all. And I'm concerned about Rula for a lot of reasons. But back in October of 2025, so just a few months ago, Brian got in trouble because Rula alleged that he had put a tracker on the tool or the wheel kit of her car without her consent, which is a domestic violence charge. She also filed a no contact order. It was very quickly dropped. And I think all the charges got dropped, but like, it sounds like things went from bad to worse. I'm not sure when the exact filming schedule of this season was. No, I mean, we're in the 4th of July. So I'm not sure if they go into this time, if they're filmed into October. And whether or not this comes up on the show, watch what happens. But like, isn't this just her typical cheater who can't handle their own truth behaviors? And then they then blame their partner for the dirty dastardly deeds that they're actually doing. Because if you're the cheater, why is Rula getting a tracker on her car? What are you tracking? You think she's cheating? I mean, maybe she is. We don't know. But like, you know what I mean, they're always pointing the finger when it's really Spider-Man meme. But let's head back to Kelsey's big ass 16,000 square foot home. Just heard the housekeeper, Christina. Kelsey's teaching Christina how to use the electric wine opener. And Kelsey also lets us know that dishes and laundry are not her thing. So here's Christina, the full year round live-in housekeeper. Despite the fact that her man is gone six months out of the year. Alicia does come over with a box of cars crackers. Said I was going to bring cheese, but the line was too long. I figured we could figure it out. Alicia tells Kelsey, I've actually been to this house 10 years ago for a Fourth of July party. And then I got left. My girlfriend left me. I had to walk to the 7-Eleven. I almost died on the way there. I actually didn't almost die. But she left me in the woods. Alicia. Alicia is one of those people who like just let her talk. Just let her talk. You'll find out about 17 random things, three wild stories that has never happened to anybody else. And she's just going to look at you like, yeah, just another day in my life. Because guess the fuck what happens after this? There it is. Her suspicious face. She doesn't believe you. All you did was tell her your shirt was Chanel. She said, what's Chanel? You said, don't know, but you do know it feels chic. And so does she. She felt it for almost too long. Then you gave her 12 to show off the fit. She nearly spat out her coffin. You deliver the final bombshell. It's from Primark, only 14 quid. Surprises served. Shockingly chic for £14. That's so Primark. Available in-store and on Click and Collect. Hey, it's Safira and Chintzia from the Girls' Bathroom Podcast. We're currently sponsored by HBO Max, where you can stream the new third season of HBO Original Euphoria from the 13th of April. The first two seasons changed everything when they dropped. It started so many trends across fashion, music, makeup and the memes. It honestly took over. Everyone was talking about it. Season three will surely have the same effect. It set five years on from where season two left the characters at high school, and now they're navigating adulthood and their 20s out in the big bad world. Season three of Euphoria launches on the 13th of April. You can also catch up on season one and two, streaming now only on HBO Max. Or unwinding after a long day. The zesty lime and lush tropical fruits are always delicious. Try Vélimarie à Sylvignon Blanc, a vibrant New Zealand wine that's perfect for every occasion. Available at all good wine retailers. Kelsey lets us know that Alicia is about the most quintessentially Rhode Island girl that you could ever imagine from the way that she talks to the way that she doesn't want to drive on the highway. We see Alicia briefly in a Hyundai crossing a bridge with, I mean, about as close to the steering wheel as you could possibly get. But Alicia lets us know I don't like highways. I've gotten in accidents. I ran over a woman. I've almost driven off a bridge. So, you know, been there done that with the driving. Well, obviously the producer is like, uh, what? What do you mean you ran over a woman? And Alicia goes, yeah, I ran over a woman. And then we just move on. Yes, what's not happening here? I had to go and see what the hell she was talking about. So she did an interview with us weekly. And what she said, she was only driving like 17 miles an hour at this point. There was a lady who just darted in front of the car. She doesn't know if she was suicidal. She doesn't know if there was something going on with her mentally. But that's what happened. She's got PTSD from it. I don't know if she mentioned whether or not the lady passes away. I don't think she did. But she said, oh no, she, no, she said for like 10, 15 seconds, I thought I had killed her. It was crazy. So yeah, I ran over a woman. So Alicia then tells Kelsey, I shouldn't have said what I said at the picnic about you. Kelsey says, thank you, I appreciate that. I understand though everybody's going to have questions and I'm not mad at Joellen. But if I find out that she turned this conversation into Rosie asking about my relationship, I probably, I would have just rather that she didn't do that. Kelsey then tells Alicia, speaking of Rue, I was out with Rue, she's not a fan of Joellen. So Alicia has switched to deal with Rue and Brian, her husband. Kelsey says, well, according to her, nothing. But I think at this point, we just need to get it all out there, be honest, everybody's got questions about each other. We're only in episode two. We get years sometimes before we get to the everybody put an anonymous question that we all understand who's handwriting it is. So it's very obvious who's asking what in a box so that we can get down to the things that we really want to know about somebody. We're in episode two. Kelsey's like, you know what, enough. I'm getting some boxes. I'm putting everybody's names on it. I'm getting some Sharpies and we're going to make this happen. Meet me at the Vineyard. We need to be like Hillary Duff and come clean. And then she takes a sip out of her drink, all the ice spills onto her lap. And then she just flicks it onto the floor and goes, oh my god, where's Christina when you need her? Girl, I hope you picked those ice cubes up. That's crazy. And then if that wasn't enough, Alicia goes, I'm psychic. I knew that was going to happen. I knew you were going to spill your drink. I'm psychic. So then we head over to Rue. She gets a whack in on Joellen immediately. I would never live in Cranston. It's just not my vibe. Joellen lives there. Now FYI, Joellen went straight to Instagram and posted the following caption, you shop in Cranston, you golf in Cranston, your husband sleeps in Cranston with a white heart emoji. And in the video, she's lip syncing, you look so dumb right now. Take a bow by Rihanna. So, uh-oh. But anyway, Rue let's us know everybody calls her a boss, babe. I just feel like that isn't true. Every time somebody says that, I'm like, is that true? I don't know. But she does say I'm one of the only female boat captains in Rhode Island. I run my own financial planning firm. The well-being of my children is paramount. I might be working, I might wear all black power suits, but I'm actively parenting my children. And then it shows a quick clip of Rue playing with her kids in their playroom. And her son, Luca, has some of her hair extensions that he plopped on top of his head. And Rue tells him, if you mess those up, they're coming out of your bank account. You're going to pay for my hair extensions. That's parenting. That's mothering. She's been with Brian, the podiatrist, for about 12 years, married for nine. She lets us know, normally I love tall, dark, and handsome. But my husband's a little lighter, a little shorter. And I think he's handsome. I think. And those are Troy's words. He checks one of three boxes. So Rue is half Lebanese, half Syrian. Brian's Italian, but they connect because, you know, both their cultures are really family-centered. So they're like hanging around the house. Rue tells Brian, they're sitting by the pool. The whole state has been loving talking about them recently. And Brian's like, well, you know, that was last year. The past is in the past. We need to move forward. Rue says in a confessional, when I saw those cheating pictures, I looked at Brian and I said, is there anything I should know? You better tell me now. And he broke down a little. And I'm thinking, Rue, these are very blatant pictures. Like it's not like he is not even a it's about Tom situation, where Tom got spotted by Bethany's friend or somebody in production, making out with some woman at the bar. I'm blatant, but Tom didn't even know that he was being filmed. Brian sitting there happy as a lark playing Santa, playing the Easter Bunny with this woman on his lap. They're looking straight down the camera. So it's not like he doesn't know that he's being photographed. One, they're smiling, two, tongue at each other down. So you come up to me like, is there anything I need to know? It's right in those photos, girl. Right posted on Instagram. Rue then claims Brian told her it was done after she caught him. He was begging, pleading, screaming, crying, throwing up. But then when a producer asked Rue, have you forgiven him, she smiles and goes, I'm working on it. Rue then tells Brian, I'm tired of everybody making this a bigger deal than it is. Brian, I mean, you're not even a good liar, sir. He says to her, we're strong. And we know that you know where I am every second you track my location, like, oh, like you're doing to her. And then he says, I love my wife, I love my family, they're just jealous, you know. What would any of these people be jealous of Brian? You're a cheating podiatrist. And a podiatrist is a very respectable job. You have a career for life, but still jealous of what your ugly leather pants. Kelsey goes over to Alicia's house because, you know, Kelsey made it very clear, we're not even going to let you drive to the pickup point to the vineyard, we're going to bring the Sprinter van to you, girl, everybody can come up to your house. So Kelsey's there, they're in the kitchen waiting for the girls. Alicia says, I'm just going to pack some snacks because I need my crackers just in case. But Kelsey says, I brought a whole bag of food for the trip. Alicia lets us know when a confessional, I don't leave the house without a quick carb. I love my saltines just in case I get nauseous, nuts for protein in case I feel lightheaded. I love a cracker. Fig Newton's keep me full. I feel like it's healthy for a cookie, because it's like a it's like a fig, that's a fruit. I'm obsessed with this one. Rosie shows up to the event in little cute space buns, but she asks the girls, do I look like Minnie Mouse? And they're like, no, no, no, you look like a Bratz doll. But then Ashley shows up ready for a Renaissance fair. She's wearing a black dress, you know how they wear it back in the day back in the day, I mean, like the 1600s dress with like a bustier on top of it. So she gets on the bus and it's like, Hey, can you guys tighten it? Tighten it for me, please? I'm like, sure. Then Alicia says in a confessional, Ashley's outfit's different. Is it like she's turned an Irish or something? I don't know if that's like medieval or something like a folklore person, you know, like, like when they folklore or something, you know, when they have the lambs and the women in the mountains of folklore, please tell me that's a word. All the girls get to the vineyard. But Kelsey takes Joellen aside before they sit down and be like, Hey, girl, just the heads up, Ruella's coming. She's like, you got to be fucking kidding me. So Joellen lets us know the truth about the whole situation with Ruella and Brian and the girlfriend, which is that Ruella has now decided that Joellen is the villain out of this whole situation, despite the fact that Joellen only got those pictures of Brian and the mistress because the mistress posted it on Instagram. So it's not like she went looking for them. Alicia's back at the table saying her husband's a foot doctor, but I think he's doing more than rubbing foots. Does anybody want to use? So Joellen tells Kelsey, I'm not here to publicize her husband having an affair. She already knows it. Kelsey tells her, but she's pretending like she doesn't know it. And Joellen's like, Oh my god, I sent her the pictures where the husband and the mistress are making out. And then Joellen says in a confessional, these photos came out New Year's December 2024. The mistress posted them on IG. She saw them, sent them to Liz. Liz called Ruella. Ruella calls her begging for the photos, so she sends them to her. Kelsey tells Joellen, I told Ruella to talk to you about it. Joellen says, it's not my problem what he's doing. And then she reveals that six months after this whole situation happened, Ruella and Brian, remember Ruella said, we know Joellen works in the beauty industry, and we know a lot of people in that industry. Joellen starts popping off because she reveals Ruella and Brian called her job, rode into HR trying to get her fired around the fact that he was being a slut. So she says, Kelsey, tell Ruella, tell her husband to keep his dick in his pants. It's got nothing to do with my career. And this affects my kids. And if you come for them, I'm going to ruin your fucking life. Not ruined. Rune. Ashley then makes me laugh because clearly somebody at the table is trying to figure out why Joellen's mad. What happened with Ruella? And so Ashley says, her husband, he's a foot doctor. He may have had an affair. And then Joella told her about the affair. He's a foot doctor and he cheated on Joellen told her. So Joellen and Kelsey go back to the table. These are some of the most insane orders I've ever heard when the waiter asks them what they want to eat. Rosie orders a grilled, weird vineyard. Rosie orders a grilled cheese. Okay, little immature. Fine. Alicia orders a cheese pizza. Well done. I don't even know what that means. That's a cracker, baby. And then Liz says, I want a shaved beef, no bread. It comes out like a six inch pile of shaved beef on a bed of lettuce with like two little slivers of red onions sprinkled on top. It looked crazy like dog food. Joellen tells the ladies at the table, I'm not trying to be this awful person. But this other person, Ruella tried to hurt me and my job. So when you come after my work and my financial state, you're not only coming from me, you're coming from my children. She tells us in a confessional, Gary pays the mortgage, but she pays for everything else. So to try to ruin that, not acceptable. Now, none of this matters because Ruella FaceTime's Kelsey, hey, oh, so sorry, I can't make it beautiful. I was at the urgent care for like two hours. Oh no. The girls are laughing because they already know she's clearly fucking lying. Joellen goes up to get the box that they were supposed to give to Ruella so she could put her questions in. She takes it and throws it right into a bush. So then when Kelsey hangs up, she tells the ladies she was in bed, Rosie, who saw her because she's sitting right next to Kelsey goes, yeah, she was wearing a hat on in bed with full glam, a hat in bed with full glam. Joellen says she's not sick. She gets headaches because she's stressed out because she's taken too much that was epic. Have a protein bar. Go get a turkey leg from Ashley. That fucking killed me, girl. Kelsey then gets things going by saying, I know we've all been talked about. I know we all have questions. So no more talking about each other behind each other's backs. Let's just bring it all out on the table. Everybody here's a sharpie. Ashley gets asked the first question, which is when did you lose your virginity? She says around 30. So naturally, the question is so 29 and she goes basically around there. So 31. Alicia gets asked by Joellen, did you ever hook up with my husband, Gary in Alicia's like, absolutely not. We were in Catholic community together. I prayed for him. He was my prayer partner. Never. I never thought of him that way. There it is, her suspicious face. She doesn't believe you. All you did was tell her your shirt was Chanel. She said, what's Chanel? You said, don't know, but you do know it feels chic. And so does she. She felt it for almost too long. Then you gave her 12 to show off the fit. She nearly spat out her coffin. You deliver the final bombshell. It's from Primark, only 14 quid. Surprises served. Shockingly chic for £14. That's so Primark. Available in-store and on Click and Collect. Hi, it's Pete and Sam from Staying Relevant and our podcast is brought to you by HBO Max, available for the first time ever. HBO Max, a new place to stream HBO original series. Now this exciting Pete, whilst I was recovering from my throat surgery, I kicked back and watched all of my favourites. That was absolute bliss. You couldn't speak for three days. I'm glad you had this to keep you busy. I'm telling you, mate, HBO Max, just get it right every single time. These stories make you feel something. One minute I'm crying, next I'm laughing. I mean, you take me on an emotional roller coaster every day to be fair. I knew you missed me. Did you do anything else whilst you're off? Play with the cats. Anything else? I didn't need to. HBO Max, the home of quality entertainment. Nothing better to get you through vocal cord surgery, I guess. Stream HBO Max now. Rosie gets asked by Joellen, did you have sex with the coach? Now, apparently years ago when Rosie was a local news anchor, there was some rumor going on around Reddit that she was sleeping with some basketball coach. I honestly don't care enough to even look it up. I think she may have said his name was Ron at some point. Girl, I don't know. But she was like, I'm sure he was hooking up with some reporter. It wasn't me. I've never even met this man. Don't believe everything you read on Reddit. Also, he's not even my type. Like, do you think I would date some old man basketball coach? Like, be for real. That's to be fair. We just see like one picture of her husband and, you know, looks, Ben can be very photogenic, but he looked hot. To be honest with you, I'd like to see him more. And she made a point. Based on that man, I can't imagine that she would then fuck up on some older basketball coach. After this, Joellen gets asked if she's a swinger. She says, Gary and I aren't, but I know a lot of friends of ours that are. Rhode Island's a big swinging community. And then Joellen says in a confessional, I wish Gary would let me swing. We had a three some months. My mom's gonna hear this. Then Kelsey gets asked the question, are you dating? She says, I'm not in a polygamist relationship. I've never been in a polygamist relationship. And then she looks over at Rosie, because I know you asked. Rosie says, I was just like asking. And then Kelsey says, obviously, I want to have kids and be married. The person I've been with for the past 10 years won't give me that. So I'm dating someone else. Rosie says in a confessional, now you're saying you got two boyfriends like what? I did ask chat GPT about this. So if you're married, you're a polygamist. Polyamorous is when you're not. She's got two boyfriends at a time. So if that's not polyamory, I don't know what is. Kelsey tells the girls, I'm happy. I'm living life. And they're like, good for you, girl. And she says, I got these two men who are wonderful. I'd be happy if I ended up with either one of them. Now my question, the real question is, does the man that you live in know about the second one, boyfriend number two? Because that feels like a power play. Like, you know how these men typically work, like they want to keep you in that gilded cage alone, you're not typically out here able to see other men because you're the trophy. You're the baby. Well, I'm confused. If she is able to freely date this man and get to choose who she wants, Kelsey has hit another feet in sugar baby hall of fame that I didn't even think like she is now in the upper echelon of sugar babies. And good honor for that. I hope you guys can appreciate this. This is rare of air, fide air that we're in. This is some upper echelon. True shit. Herstory, if you will. Joellen tells the group, if any of you guys have questions about Kelsey, just ask. So Alicia's like, why did you bring it up in the first place? And Joellen says, I didn't bring up Kelsey dating. And Alicia goes, no, you did it's a picnic. So in the flashback, we don't even need to see it just happened last episode, we know that Joellen was being a very good friend to Kelsey. They were trying to bring it up. And Rosie was like, what's what's a polygamous? Is that what Kelsey's doing? Because she's got two boyfriends. And Joellen was like, ducking and dodging, being like, I don't know what you guys are talking about. If you have any questions about Kelsey and her life, go to her. I know she's dealing with some things. She's at a crossroads in her own life. What are the details? I'm not telling you once again. Ask Kelsey, not me. My name is Bennett. I am in it. But Liz tries to tell Joellen, you open the door for that conversation. And Joellen says, no, I didn't. The conversation got going. And I actually stopped it. Now Kelsey says in a confessional, I do think that what Joellen is saying is genuine. I don't think she's lying. Hopefully it's true. Liz reads her card or she tries to. Because the card says, I know it's not true. Love you. Question mark. But the news, is it true? And then there's some scribble, and then a heart and then XOXO. And so this is like, what is this? And Alicia goes, it was me. I got nervous. But what I meant to write was, I love you, but is the news true? Liz asks, what are, what's the news? And Alicia says that you have an affair or something. And Liz goes, that's not true. Rosie says, well, I've heard rumors of an affair with like a X, like a best friend or something. They were texting like 400 times a day. But she's like 50. I don't, I don't think they text like that. Now another pin in this is that this is like real deep. And another question. You know, I was wondering, Rula, why would you go on the show when this man is clearly cheating on you and you want to pretend like you don't know what the hell's going on? Liz, I'm wondering why you would be in an active case such as this currently, and want to go on television. So Dino, who by the way, I mean, there are so many, this is like a Russian doll situation. Where do I start? Okay. What Liz says on the show is that she and her husband have a mutual friend named Dino. It's a very close friend of them both. But her husband, Jerry, took up like a commercial or fishing habit, hobby, that hasn't gone like three weeks out of the month. And so people thought that she was cheating on Dino. Have we ever had sex? No, maybe things went a little too far emotionally, but Dino was like the interim fake husband. So when Jerry was gone, Dino was there, they would hang out all the time. But nothing physical has ever happened between them. Now the streets and the court system are saying that Dino was into some very unsavory and sketchy things. I'll just have you guys google it. But in the discovery of those things, what Rosie's alluding to is that there were like hundreds of phone calls made from Dino to Liz in a very sketchy way, like hundreds and hundreds of like 400 plus phone calls, dozens of text messages, multiple phone calls to multiple people in volumes that are not normal. Like we're like dozens, hundreds, a lot of phone calls. Also, Dino has a child with the ex-wife or former wife, however you want to put it, of Erin Hernandez. Now when all of this unsavory information came out about Dino, she went on her Instagram story to be like, I don't want any parts of this man. I don't, I've seen the things, but like I don't know anything. Please don't involve me. Like I left that man and I don't want anything to do with him. He's no good. This is a woman who to this day still actively claims Erin Hernandez and she spoke out publicly against Dino. So that's troubling to me. All things considered. So the episode actually ends with Liz Mad at Alicia because Liz says, Alicia knows all this information about Dino. She knows that nothing's going on, but I feel like she just brought that up to, you know, stir up some drama and I don't like that. And then she says, everybody thinks that I'm the scary one, but there are a couple girls at this table that are capable of much more scary things than I am. And I can't wait to see it. I love this show. Thank you, God. Thank you so much for listening. Thank me for speaking. Love you. Bye. Hi, it's Pete and Sam from Staying Relevant and our podcast is brought to you by HBO Max, available for the first time ever. HBO Max, a new place to stream HBO original series. Now, this is exciting, Pete. Whilst I was recovering from my throat surgery, I kicked back and watched all of my favorites. That was absolute bliss. You couldn't speak for three days. I'm glad you had this to keep you busy. I'm telling you, mate, HBO Max just get it right every single time. These stories make you feel something. One minute I'm crying, the next I'm laughing. I mean, you take me on an emotional roller coaster every day to be fair. I knew you missed me. Did you do anything else whilst you're off? Play with the cats. Anything else? I didn't need to. HBO Max, the home of quality entertainment. Nothing better to get you through vocal cord surgery, I guess. Stream HBO Max now. Crisp, vibrant and bursting with citrus. Villamarrilla's New Zealand, Sylvignon Blanc is the perfect wine made to be enjoyed on every occasion. Whether you're soaking up the sun in your garden, hosting a backyard barbecue or unwinding after a long day, the zesty lime and lush tropical fruits are always delicious. Try Villamarrilla Sylvignon Blanc, a vibrant New Zealand wine that's perfect for every occasion. Available at all good wine retailers. With LV, I can get my home insurance from just £133. They've made it easy for me to get a great price. And their 24-7 emergency helpline lets me look after what matters to me, because insurance is simple when it's me and LV. No wonder we're rated excellent on Trust Pilot. Get your quote today at LV.com. 10% of new customers paid £133 or less July to December 2025. LV General Insurance is part of Allianz.