Week 11 (Days 344-350): How do I know what God’s will is?
35 min
•Dec 17, 20254 months agoSummary
Emma Daughter and Kyrsten McCloskey explore biblical questions about apostleship, discerning God's will, distinguishing healthy disagreement from divisive behavior, and the judgment seat of God. The episode emphasizes that God's will is partly revealed through Scripture and partly discerned through prayer, counsel, and obedience to God's character.
Insights
- Apostleship in the New Testament has three distinct uses: the 12 disciples, authorized messengers sent by local congregations, and broadly commissioned messengers—not all apostles were among the original 12
- Divisive behavior differs fundamentally from healthy disagreement: division stems from self-interest and false teaching contrary to core doctrine, while disagreement can be constructive when pursued humbly within scriptural bounds
- God's will operates on three levels: revealed will (Scripture's clear commands), hidden will (future plans not yet disclosed), and discernible will (personal direction found through prayer, counsel, and obedience)
- Believers face the Bema seat judgment to receive rewards for faithful obedience, not condemnation—security in Christ means no fear of judgment, but accountability for how we live matters
- Setting minds on heavenly values requires intentional daily practices: Bible reading, prayer, worship, Christian community, and reliance on the Holy Spirit rather than personal strength alone
Trends
Growing emphasis on biblical literacy and personal Bible reading as foundational spiritual practice among evangelical audiencesIncreased focus on discernment skills to navigate cultural messaging and distinguish core doctrine from secondary theological disagreementsShift toward practical theology that connects scriptural principles to daily decision-making and mental health (anxiety management through prayer)Recognition of women's leadership and ministry contributions in church history and contemporary contextsIntegration of community counsel and accountability as essential to spiritual decision-making rather than individualistic faith approaches
Topics
Biblical Apostleship and Early Church LeadershipDiscerning God's Will Through Prayer and ScriptureDistinguishing Healthy Disagreement from Divisive BehaviorCore Christian Doctrine vs. Secondary Theological IssuesThe Bema Seat Judgment and Eternal RewardsRenewing the Mind and Setting Thoughts on Heavenly ValuesWomen in Early Church MinistryRole of the Holy Spirit in Christian LivingSeeking Godly Counsel in Decision-MakingCultural Discernment for BelieversSanctification and ObedienceBiblical Translation Differences and InterpretationChristian Community and AccountabilityFear, Anxiety, and Trust in God's SovereigntyIdentity in Christ and Spiritual Transformation
People
Paul the Apostle
Central biblical figure discussed throughout; his letters to Romans and Colossians form the basis for episode questio...
Jesus Christ
Core subject of discussion regarding apostleship, resurrection witness, judgment, and setting minds on heavenly values
Junia
Early church figure mentioned in Romans 16:7; discussed as likely female apostle or respected church leader, example ...
Andronicus
Early church figure mentioned alongside Junia in Romans 16:7 as fellow prisoner and respected church leader
Barnabas
Listed as example of apostle outside the original 12 disciples who had authority and sent-one status
James (brother of Jesus)
Identified as apostle outside the original 12 who likely witnessed the resurrected Christ
Quotes
"Apostle means sent one, sent one."
Kyrsten McCloskey•Early in episode
"Division is destructive. Disagreement can actually be healthy."
Emma Daughter•Mid-episode discussion on divisions
"We are not powerful enough to derail God's purposes."
Kyrsten McCloskey•Discussion of God's will and sovereignty
"In Christ, there is no condemnation."
Emma Daughter•Bema seat judgment discussion
"If we're trying to do anything...if we're only doing that out of our own strength, we're not really glorifying God."
Kyrsten McCloskey•Setting minds on things above section
Full Transcript
Hey Bible readers, welcome to TBR Deep Dive. I'm Emma Daughter. I'm Kyrsten McCloskey. And we are so excited to answer some questions from this week's Bible reading. Yeah. You ready for the first one? Yes, let's get going. The first question comes from day 345 and the passage or really the verse was Roman 167. The question reads, Junia was an Apostle? Question mark? Yep. Were there other Apostles besides the 12th? And I think they're reading the NIV, not the ESV. Okay. Because the NIV says, Great Andronicus in Junia, My fellow Jews who have been in prison with me, they are outstanding among the Apostles and they were in Christ before I was. So I think that question among the Apostles is what? Okay. Maybe triggered. Hey, so, was Junia one of the Apostles? Got it. Okay. So let's start by defining the word Apostle. Just so we're all on the same page there and then maybe we can talk about some of the different translations. So Apostle. Okay. So for some people this might be a new word. It might be kind of just vague in terms of, okay, I've heard this a bunch, but like what does this actually mean? So the word Apostle means sent one, sent one. And there are three different ways that the New Testament uses this word. So first, it refers to the 12 disciples that Jesus chose. And so a disciple is different from an Apostle, but all of these disciples were Apostles two. So the disciple means learner. Disciple means learner. Apostle means sent one, but there's an overlap with this category. Because disciples can be sent ones. Correct. And because what we see in the early church is that these disciples who were originally with Jesus end up being referred to as Apostles as well. Okay. Kind of interchangeably. Okay. Then we have the Apostles. Oh, sorry. So this is still under that. So the Apostles were with Jesus in his ministry and they were witnesses to his resurrection. And this is a really key term for the first way that we're thinking of an Apostle is that they had to be a witness to Jesus' resurrection. And so Paul's also included in this because he saw Jesus on the road to Damascus. Okay. So he witnessed the risen Christ. Then second category is an Apostle was authorized by local congregation with the delivery of specific gifts for another Christian church. And so we see this in 2 Corinthians 823 and in Philippians 2.25. Then third, it was used to people who had been sent by Jesus. And this is where probably this Romans reference fits best is just as a more kind of generic sent one. I get something different. Okay. It's not contradictory. Okay. But just another way to think about it. Okay. Interesting. There's two uses of the word Apostle and the New Testament. Okay. Apostles. Yeah. So literally yes, one who is sent in a broad sense. So I think of there's the broad definition and the narrow definition. I think I'm saying the same thing as you, but just in a different way. So the broad definition is these are commissioned messengers like Barnabas or James. But then there's the sent ones in the narrow sense. And these people who are sent how to unique foundational authority. Yes. And the narrow sense of the word that's people like Paul and the 12. So there's broad sent messengers. And then there's the narrow sent messengers. And those people had special authority. Yep. I think that's very helpful. And we are saying the same thing. I think great. So when it comes to this verse, hopefully that helped different people who learn differently here. Yeah. Okay. So when it comes to this, so when it comes to this verse, where we see kind of maybe some discrepancies is with our English translations just in the way that that it's represented. So Emma started us off by reading the NIV, which says about Adronicis and Junia, they are outstanding among the Apostles. The ESV says that they are well known to the Apostles. And then the NLT says they are highly respected among the Apostles. So one version, the NIV makes it sound like we're considering these people Apostles. And then the ESV and the NLT is more like they're known to the Apostles or that respect they're respected by the Apostles. Now what makes it just like we know, Terri Lee. Yes. She's well respected. Yes. Among those of the people I've podcasted. I love that. Yes. Very good. So I think one of the things that makes this kind of interesting though is that Junia is probably a woman. Yes. Most scholars agree. Most scholars agree. I think there's maybe a few that would disagree. But we'll say in general, Junia was a woman. And so what's cool about that? Well, what's cool is that the text is affirming her ministry. Yes. It's not saying it's wrong that she was operating in this specific way or the general way. Even we know that however she was serving the church, it was commendable. Yes. And to be encouraged. So that's a good example for us today. I also think what's cool about it is that she's being encouraged by probably older men in the church. She could have been older. We don't know how old she is. But it seems like Paul is maybe not older, but as a leader is looking at the congregations and it's like, hey, this girl, this woman, this lady, how old she is, is doing a great thing. And leadership saw her and went out of his way to comment her. Which I think is really me. Yeah. It's a great example. Yeah. And I think, I mean, it shows, it shows Paul's heart for encouragement of wanting to, especially in this letter to the Romans where he's writing to a place that he hasn't been yet. And he's just calling these different people out. Like, he wanted to encourage people and he wanted to affirm the work that other people were doing in the early church that was helping promote the gospel. Like that feels to me like what we really need to see here is that Paul was applauding other people by saying, yes, this person is well respected. This person is maybe a sent one again, depending on how you're reading this. But we're all on the same mission. We're all trying to do the same thing. That's right. So regardless of whether she was an apostle or was just well known among the apostles, the answer to the second half for the question is, yes, there were other apostles outside of the 12. Because as we've mentioned, there was Paul. He's outside of the 12. There was also Barnabas, James, the brother of Jesus, maybe even Silas and maybe Timothy. It's worth noting that these people likely saw the resurrect of Jesus. So they would fit that more narrow category of who is an apostle. They had to have seen the resurrected Christ. All right. You ready for the next question? I am. Let's hear it. Okay. This question comes from day 345 and it comes specifically out of Romans 16, 17 to 18. The question is, how can I tell if someone is causing division and not just disagreeing? This is a very good question. So let's read the passage that this comes from. Romans 16, 17 to 18. Watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught. Avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. And by smooth talk and flattery, they deceive the hearts of the naive. I want to look at the context of the verse this question stems from. Yep. Great. Because Paul was addressing division tied to false teaching. Yes. Not just differing opinions. Yes. That's a really good point. So he was warning against those who created obstacles contrary. He says contrary to the doctrine you've been taught, which means this was also about opposing fundamental truths of the gospel. Not about seeing secondary issues differently. Yes. So that's key. Yep. And this would have been this false teaching would have, again, it's false teaching. It's a lie, but it also would have been incredibly divisive, which is part of the problem, obviously. Disagreements don't have to be divisive, but this kind of opposition definitely divisive. So with that in mind, what seems then to be the motive of the person disagreeing, and we know that they were not serving Christ, but rather we're serving their own appetites, Paul says. So they were motivated by self-interest, ambition, personal gain, and they'd use smooth talk, flattery to persuade people to win people for themselves, rather than winning people to the truth of Jesus. So it's a very key distinction to make. Another gauge to test whether or not this is a simple disagreement or a strong division that's destructive is to recognize division is really destructive, whereas disagreement can actually be healthy. Yeah. Division is destructive. Disagreement can be healthy. Healthy disagreement is done humbly in pursuit of truth, and within the bounds of scripture, Matthew 18 is a great passage to look to, but divisive behavior elevates a personal agenda, a personal gain, over unity, over the truth of the gospel. It refuses correction. It's not willing to be wrong. Yeah. And it undermines trust in God's word or trust in those who are leading you in your church. Yeah. Well, and so the thing about disagreements is I think, and this is so important with just kind of where we're at in our society right now, is that people disagree on all sorts of things. Oh, yeah. And like everything. People are disand in the Christian space, that's not a horrible thing. Like that's not necessarily a bad thing. That part of the reason that we have so many different churches is that people disagree on some of the ways that we're supposed to live out what we see written in the scriptures. Now, let's keep that clear about what orthodoxy is, what the what the true sound teachings are of our faith. We can't be disagreeing on that because they're outside of Christianity. A good example, our churches don't see some of the secondary or tertiary issues the same, but I'm pretty certain on the core issues, or the core doctrinal, you know, fundamentals of the faith. Right. We're totally aligned. Right. And these are the things that make us Christians. Do you believe that Jesus raised from the dead? Do you believe he's coming back? Yeah. Self-realization is not by words. Exactly. Right. And so these are the things that we need to agree on. But in terms of disagreements, I think it's good to remember that Christians can disagree with each other. And we need to be clear on something like this so that so that we're viewing disagreements as, okay, maybe it's not the the most fun thing in the world to disagree with someone either in your church or in a different church. But as long as you're not taking it to that level of divisiveness, as long as you're staying within the bounds of what we believe, that's okay. Have, you know, come humbly and have conversations. And it's okay if you end saying, yeah, we see this differently. Yeah. So how do we know if someone's causing division or if it's just a disagreement? Yeah. Returning to the question, assess, is this disagreement about a core doctrine? Meaning is it about things like the person in work of Christ, salvation by grace, the authority of Scripture, the Trinity, et cetera? Yeah. And then you could ask, hey, is this person seeking God's glory or their own platform? Right. Are they willing to be corrected by Scripture or the church? That's a really good one. Yeah. Your answers to those questions will help you discern. Is this disagreement a big deal that causes division or is it a healthy disagreement? Yeah. And I think the goal within the church, and I think you mentioned this already, is always unity. Oh, yeah. The body of Christ needs to be unified because that's just the truth. We are the body of Christ. And so we need to display that unity, but that doesn't always mean agreeing. But it does mean loving one another. It does mean honoring one another. It does mean humbly having these kinds of discussions. So, well, it not even plays out when we prepare for these episodes. Like there are times where one of us still writes something, and the other person will say, I'd really disagree. Like you'll say, you'll say that. And that's not bad. Right. Or mean. It's actually healthy because it helps us flesh it out and determine is what I wrote wrong? Are there multiple perspectives we need to present? And that's a good thing. Yeah. Those disagreements, I think, make this podcast better and more helpful. Yes. Which is maybe a positive example compared to denying the chord. Tristific. It's a negative example. It's a good positive. I like that. You're ready for the next question. Yeah. Okay. This one comes from day 349. In the passage is Colossians 1, 9 through 10. The question is very simple. How do I know what God's will is? Oh, no problem. How do I know? Let me read it for you. We'll answer this one. Well, quick. Colossians 1, 9 through 10. Kirsten knows all. Oh my gosh. No. Colossians don't take that as a sound bite. They clip it. It's all over the internet. Colossians God knows all. Kirsten's just here to she knows our best. Yeah, we're doing our best. Colossians 1 9 through 10. From the day we heard, we have not ceased to pray for you. Asking that you may be filled with the knowledge of his will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding. So as to walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing to him, bearing fruit and every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God. So how do I know what God's will is? Hmm. Very good. Well, okay. So the cool thing is I was a little bit kidding before, but because we can know God's will. So this is something where there are some easy answers to this. There's some clear, I shouldn't say easy. There are some clear answers to this. And then I think the way we live it out is maybe going to look a little differently. So we can know God's will. And Paul even prayed that the Colossians would be filled with that very knowledge. And I would pray that we all would be too as we look at this. So let's look at God's will in three different ways. And sure. And unpack this. That's the first. So God's revealed will is the first example. So this is what God has taught us in his word about how to live. So for instance, Matthew 2239, you shall love your neighbor as yourself. Very clear. This is God's will for your life. Love your neighbor as yourself. Then we have God's hidden will. So God told us in scripture what he plans to do. But some of the details are yet to be revealed. So maybe like the end times. Yeah. So something like from revelation, behold, I'm coming soon. Okay. Like we know how soon as soon. What does that mean? Exactly. Yep. And then the third is God's discernible will. So this is more about God's desire and direction for your life, for our life, and can be discerned through prayer and obedience to his word. So from James 1 to 5, if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God. So we're trying to discern God's will. Yeah. We're praying or we're fasting or seeking the spirits, seeking to know God. What do you want me to do? Right. And I do think that when we're asking about like, what's God's will, I think many people are asking that third one. Yeah. What should I do? What should I do? How should I be? And so I think splitting it up into the three categories can kind of help because there's so much that we know about the way that God wants us to live in the world. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's so much already revealed. Yep. And then when it comes to what he hasn't revealed, I think it's important we remember that God's will is never, absolutely never contradictory or contrary to his character. Yeah. So the discernible will of God will always be consistent with the character of a good and loving father. Yeah. So when we're making decisions, we have to anchor them in what we know to be true about God that he is loving. He is wise. He is compassionate. He is also just. He's fair. And so when scripture is silent on a specific scenario, we can still trust that God's revealed character can actually guide us in a lot of decisions. What's the most loving thing to do? What's the kind of thing to do? Yeah. What's the most compassionate thing to do? Etc. Yeah. That's a really good point. And I do just want to point out a couple places in scripture where it's so clear what God's will is. And so we can just kind of settle in on those. These verses literally say, this is God's will for you. So in 1st Thessalonians 4, 2 to 6, Paul says, you know what instructions we gave you through the Lord Jesus. For this is the will of God, your sanctification that you abstain from sexual immorality, that each of you know how to control your own body in holiness and honor, not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God, that no one transgress and wrong his brother and sister in these things. So that's the first place. Then a little bit later in Thessalonians 5, 16 to 17, Paul gives another example of God's will. Rejoice always, pray without ceasing, give thanks in all circumstances. For this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you. And then finally in 1st Peter 2, 15, Peter says, this is the will of God that by doing good, you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. So doing good, that is the will of God. I love it. Yeah, I thought of Job 42, which says, I know that you can do all things. Job is talking of God, speaking of Alcott. And then he says, in that no purpose of yours can be thwarted. And I was reminded of that verse because yes, there's the already revealed will of God. But then there's also I think in some people this fear of ruining God's plan or a fear of missing him. I'm going to miss God's will. Am I going to step out of God's will? Is this what's going to happen? And that's a really valid fear. But the reminder when we look to God's character, what do we know? What's revealed? We are not powerful enough to derail his purposes. That is like a good point. I we're just not. Yeah, I can't thwart God's purposes. And so I think the obedience and what we do know can clarify the unknown in that, oh my gosh, this is unknown. What if I miss it? Yeah. Who is God? How powerful is he? How not powerful am I? I'm not going to stop him. Yep. We are not powerful enough to derail God's purposes. That's so good. That is so good. Okay, should we move on to the next? I have a few. I have a few more thoughts. Okay, keep us going. Okay, tell me more about God's will. Well, I more want to get a little practical. Okay, so yeah, I am trying to discern God's will. What should I do? Yes. Yes, look at his character. Yes, recognize their things that are clear. Seat council. Proverbs 1522 without council plans fail, but with many advisors, they succeed. Yep. And so if I'm struggling, maybe it's should I take this new job or not? Not really. I'm very content with the jobs that I have. But hypothetically, if that's the rest, so I think that's a really relatable impasse to encounter. Without council plans fail, but with many advisors, they succeed. Godly people can see affirmations or cautions that I might miss. So it is good to have people around us who are walking with Jesus and invite them into those decisions. And then I think to kind of conclude, okay, I'm waiting for God's will to be revealed. Maybe it's not a yes or a no. It's a hang tight. Yeah, like we'll get there. We're not going to make this decision yet. In the meantime, then that revealed will become really important because they're actually like how are you living? Yeah, how am I living in the waiting? There's actually something very clear. Several things. You listed a lot of them that I should be doing while I wait. It's not okay. God hasn't revealed yet. So I'm just going to twit on my thumbs and watch TV. TV's not innately bad. But live on mission. For example, live out the great commission. Why you wait? Yep. Okay. That's all I got. Okay. Good job. We can go to the next question. Okay. Perfect. Now we're ready for the next question. I'm ready. Okay. What we got? This question comes from day 345 and specifically from Romans 14, 10 to 12, which I'll read in a second. And the question is what will we be giving account of as we stand before God's judgment seat? Should I be nervous about this? I think that's a really good question. Very honest. I appreciate that. So let's go ahead and take a look at where this comes from. So Romans 14, 10 to 12, why do you pass judgment on your brother or you? Why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God for it is written. As I live says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me and every tongue shall confess to God. So then each of us will give an account of himself to God. All right. Love it. Okay. Okay. Here's what we need to know. Yes. There are two primary judgments listed out in scripture to the Bama seat, some pronounce it Bama seat. Either way, it's spelled B-E-M-A. That's a judgment and then the great white throne judgment. Those are the two. There are some differing views around these judgments specifically when they take place and what not. But generally, believers will face the Bama seat judgment. That second Corinthians 5, 10, where God evaluates our works. So this judgment is not at all to decide if we are saved or not. That is already securing Christ if you're a believer. Again, this we're talking about a judgment for believers. The Bama seat is likely where God rewards faithful obedience. You can also see that in 1 Corinthians 3, 12, through 15. But then unbelievers, it seems, will face the great white throne judgment. This is, think final judgment for all unbelievers. That's the key part. The unbelievers will be judged according to their works and then lack of faith. So remember our works should stem from our faith. Right. So that's, they have no faith. Therefore their works, their good works. Any good works they have do not matter because the faith is missing. Yeah. And then they're ultimately cast into the like a fire, whatever that means, differing views because their names aren't found in the book of life. Yeah. That's from Revelation. Yes. Revelation 20, 11 through 15. Yeah. So it might help to think of the Bama seat like like in Olympic medal ceremony. Okay. Hang with me. Yeah. I'm so here with this. Okay. It's honestly, I think this is like really, really helpful imagery because Paul's audience, this is actually what they probably thought of. Oh, yeah. So in the ancient world, the Bama or Bama was a raised platform where the winning athletes would go to receive not their medals like we get at the Olympics now, but their crowns. Okay. Yeah. And these people, they were already in the games. Like they'd run the race or they'd done the competition, whatever athletic thing that it was. They'd done it. The ceremony was to recognize and reward excellence. They'd done a good job. And that may be the picture that Paul's drawing here in 2nd Corinthians 5 and Romans 14. The picture he's drawing for believers. It's not about condemnation, but it may be about just celebrating faithfulness. Yep. Now, on the other hand, there was another setting for the Bama. Okay. And that would be the judicial setting. So this could be a place in Roman courts or city centers where governors would sit on a literal chair and they would make judicial rulings. So in this context, it was a seat of judgment, but it wouldn't always be for condemnation. Sometimes it could be vindicating someone. Other times it could be recognition for acts of public service. But it could also be judgment, condemnation. You're going to jail or whatever it was for the Romans. You know what I mean? So scholars tend to think this was a good thing, but there are some examples where, hey, just know scholars do disagree. They may be more judgment to this than we were than it seems. Yep. And I do think circling back to kind of the end of the question, should I be nervous about this? No, please don't be nervous about this. Yeah. Because it's not what's the consequence. You're already secure in Christ. Right. Like so the reality is is that if you love Jesus and he is your Savior, you don't need to worry about standing before him. You're not guilty. Okay. So that's not what's happening there. In Christ, there is no condemnation. Right. Exactly. So that's not what this is what this is about. But I do think there's a sober quality to what's going on here because the truth is it matters how we live as Christians in this world. Yep. And sometimes I think we don't think about that enough. Like God has been very clear. You know, we're talking about God's will earlier. God has been very clear in the Bible with the way that we should live our lives. Not because we're trying to earn our salvation. We can't earn our salvation. But because we have been transformed because the Holy Spirit is at work within us, that needs to be demonstrated in the way that we live. And so this is where that is being recognized. Right. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. So I think just no, we don't need to be nervous, but we do need to take it seriously. Yeah. For the believer, it's not a trial to fear. It's a moment to anticipate. Yeah. Because it's when your life's faithfulness will be celebrated, rewarded possibly by the one who saved you. And that's a beautiful thing. Not something to be afraid of. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. All right. Next question. I'm ready. Okay. Let's hear it. All right. This question comes from day 349 and specifically Colossians 32. The question is, how do I set my mind on things that are above? What does that mean practically? And so this verse, Colossians 32, is set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on the earth. So I think that's a really good question. It is practical ways that we can do this. So, okay. So how do we do this? Well, I actually think Paul's writing here is much more relatable than we might realize. He's writing, yes, to believers in a specific culture that was deeply pagan and morally corrupt. And I would say, hey, today, our culture can be pretty morally corrupt. They were living around people who were not following Jesus and they could not. They should not have taken their cues on how to live from their culture. And the same is true for us. So these believers in Colossian had to align their lifestyles, their beliefs with heaven's values. And so Paul calls the world's way below. Set your mind on the things that are above. Those are the things of God. Yeah, not the things that are below. Yeah. The world's way was marked by anger, malice, deceit, destructive speech, and Paul's contrasting that with the above way, compassion, kindness, humility, patience, forgiveness, gratitude, all positive things. Yep. Yep. So how do we do this? Well, living above values in a below culture is going to take some intentionality. Yes. Every day we're flooded with messages through TV, social media, entertainment, even conversations with with unbelievers, maybe at work that leave God out. These messages do and they elevate the self. And so to counter that pull, we have to actively fill our minds with truth from God's word, practice, worship, spend time with community that lifts our hearts towards them, towards Him. And that doesn't mean we avoid rubbing shoulders with the not believer. But we do need to make sure what we're putting in matches what we want to. That is a great point. That's the world around us. So scripture calls this renewing our minds. Yep. That's Romans 12 too. It also calls it seeking God's kingdom first. Matthew 633. And putting our hope in Him instead of fleeting things. Yeah. First Timothy 617. So Paul goes on to show how above thinking changes everything for our relationships. It calls for sacrificial love, humble submission, walking and integrity, even when it costs us. Yeah. Even when it costs us. And that's only possible when the direction we're taking comes from Christ, not the culture. Yep. So setting our minds on the things above is a contributing factor that shapes what we do and why we do it. And we have to be rooted in grace in our identity in Jesus. Yeah. To look like Jesus. It's not out of my my own strength. So if you think back to that last question about judgment, yeah, it might even help some people to think about the Bamecy judgment in the eternal rewards. He promises because we should be thinking about doing everything for Jesus. Yes. Yes. Some people it might be helpful to think of for an eternal reward. I think at the end of the day, that means I'm doing good things because it brings glory to God. Is that my motivation or is immediate gratification? Yeah. My motivation. Yeah. And when our motivation is glorifying God, we get on the right track. Yeah. Yeah. And I just want to say for those of you that are reading the Bible with us, for those of you that are listening to this podcast, like your, you're doing this already. There is some aspect where in these moments where you are learning more about God, your, your understanding more about what his word says. I mean, some of you, this might be the first time that you've ever read the New Testament. It might be the first time you've ever read the Bible all the way through like amazing. You are totally in doing that setting your mind on the things that are about and you're reframing your whole world according to what God says is true. Yeah. Which is also doing that. So reading your Bible is super practical way to do this. praying. I think about where, you know, where we're challenged in the scriptures to pray continually that that is not necessarily all throughout my day. I'm, you know, praying every single second of like we can't do that. But it's, it's when you're in the car and that thought comes to mind, that thing that has made you anxious all week and you're driving and it comes back. What do you do in that moment? Will you pray? You ask God to help you. You say, God, I trust you with this and in you're shifting that perspective. I think also again, like what I was saying, you guys are doing this knowing the Bible, knowing who God is, whether that's through a different Bible study than the Bible recap, whether it's through reading your Bible every morning with the Bible recap, that's amazing. Knowing what you believe so that you can really stand firm in the world as we hear all these different messages, reminding yourself that even though we're in the world right now, this is not our permanent home, eternity is really where we're headed. And then I think you said this too surrounding yourself with people who are also on mission. Yeah. I'd also had surrendering to the Spirit. Yeah. I think of 2 Timothy 1 7, God gave us a spirit, not a fear, but a power and love and self-control. And the spirit helps us replace fear with courage. Yeah. Or hate with love or weakness with strength. I also think of Ephesians 3 16. I love it in the NLT. I mean, I love all scripturing and all the translations. I find this translation specifically helpful, uniquely helpful. It says, I pray that from his glorious unlimited resources, he will empower you with inner strength through his spirit. And when we talk about like the question, how do I set my mind? How do I do something? If we're trying to do anything, be it setting our minds on the things above, loving people who aren't like us, serving out of selflessness, doing anything that glorifies God. If we're only doing that out of our own strength, we're not really glorifying God. I mean, the action itself maybe, but the condition of my heart isn't glorifying God because I'm relying on my own strength and my own ability. And I'm failing to recognize God's the one who's given me those abilities in the first place. And his spirit is the one who empowers us to do them. And so when it comes to setting our minds on the things above, a good question to ask might be if you're someone listening and you're trying to regularly take your thoughts captive, are you trying to do that out of your own strength? Or are you doing it by asking the spirit to help you? Yeah. Pring, Lord, would you please, Holy Spirit, would you please strengthen me? Would you please redirect my thoughts? Let me remind myself of scripture. This is what's true. Or am I just like, I shouldn't be thinking about that. Right. You know, fix it on my own. Yeah. Those are great. Thanks. Very practical. You got anything else? Nope. I think that's all the practical that's great. It's all I got to. Nope. That's all I got. Very good. Thanks for taking a deep dive with us. We'll see you next week as we continue to read, understand and love the Bible and the God who wrote it. you