Jill Scott On First Album In A Decade, Being Feminine Force In Music & Acting

This is an I Heart podcast guaranteed human. I get started really early with my with my mom pissing me off about something and she didn't give me 50 cents ago to the store or whatever. I mean let me understand the process. I would be in my room like, I'm on a song. She wouldn't give me 50 cents and I really wanted to watch her mark on it. You didn't just say talent? No! I didn't think it was talent. I didn't think about it at all. It was just something that made me feel better. That's what music does for me and it still does all this time later. Thanks for watching guys. Today's episode is brought to you by Boost Mobile. She stands as one of the most vital and essential voices of our time. A poet, a singer, a storyteller, a word smith. I just added that. I love it because we're talking about words. Her work continues to shape the sonic and spiritual landscape of R&B soul and hip-hop and she prepares to release her first album nearly a decade. The amazing and magical Jill Scott is our guest today on IRL. We're gonna have good words today. We might have a little sip on something today. As we should. As we should. As we should. Hi beautiful. Hi beautiful. It's so good to see you. Where are you, boss? Where you been? We ain't been what we're doing. Where have I been? Where have I been? I've literally around the world. Yeah. A lot. I've traveled so much in this last 10 years and I'm really focused on I don't know how raising this boy. You know, it's really important time between nine I would say and 13. That time right there. That was a chunk. Why that time specifically? Because they are growing into this puberty thing. So before all the hormones take over, I wanted to make sure that I got in there well into his heart and to his mind and find out who I'm dealing with because you know, I have this one kid. So I just wanted to do it right. I wanted to do it right. Yeah. I wanted to do it right. I worked a lot during that time but you know, I also was home. I also got a chance to be present in his everyday thoughts. Wow. Yeah. That was good for us. So this is a conscious decision right for you? Yeah. For you, like, I mean, you still worked but just to not just slow down, it was definitely a slow down. Is it important? Yeah. Um, and no music. Well, I needed to live some. You know, I always make music. Always. That's so interesting because somebody like you who's so I just imagine that you have stuff like bursting out if you create things all the time. Must be challenging to not react to it right away or to, I don't know, you have an idea. Don't you want to go? You get it out. Not really. Um, I wanted to do what I wanted to do. That was the goal, like the whole goal from the very beginning. I want to live the kind of life I want to live. I want to take naps during the day if I want to. I want to make a garden if I want to. I want to redecorate my house if I want to. Do a little demolishing and start over renovations. I want to be there for my person. You know, this, this kid that God gifted me with. I want to make sure he straight and that he solid, you know, emotionally and mentally as much as I can. I want to make sure my mother was straight, you know. And I wanted to really want to be outside. I've really needed to want that. And I'll do. I need a choice now, right? It is a choice. So the plan is, well, it was and still is that, um, you work hard in your 20s. You work smart in your 30s. You work how you want to in your 40s. You work when you want to in your 50s. And you work if you want in your 60s. That came really early and that's the way that I'm planning my life. Wow. Yeah. So that's our subject. Told you you told you you came to you and you came to me. And I was like, yeah, that's how I want it. Just like that. So this is what it is. I'm working when I want to. And it feels really good to be able to do it. That's amazing. My fan base is incredibly. Oh, they wait for you. Everybody's like, it's okay. Like take as much time as you need. Because when you come back, we are here. We are ready. We are we are excited. I'm so happy to hear that. How does he receive the fact that you have taken this role so seriously? Not that all mothers don't, but there is a there's a seriousness to how you took how you took this. Yeah. Yeah. I want everybody to bless. It's blessed enough to be able to make that decision. I'm very grateful for that time. Very grateful. And all the other time that I have with him to help guide him. I love him. I love him and I like him. He's a good dude. He's funny. He's charismatic. He's cool. He's thoughtful. He's very talented. And I'm just grateful to watch his whole process. You see, making music and he's doing a lot of things that I won't really. You'll let him grow. It's his, yeah. Whenever you're ready, kid, you know, whenever you want to. I probably won't find out, you know, what he's doing until he's ready to show me. So he did a couple of things at school and I was like, why? I had no idea. So proud. Just tickled. Tickled. That must be hard when you're the mom. Yeah. The level of creative, like if you are creative, if he's a creative and he's, if it's music or whatever, he's arts. Yeah. And he's got to bring the arts to you. Well, he does it in his own time because it's his. Like for me, I kept my voice to myself because it was mine. And I needed my voice. It calmed me when I was stressed out. It encouraged me when I felt like I couldn't, you know, do something. What do you keep your voice to yourself? I really didn't, I didn't really sing in public for a long time. I didn't once and it was great. I got a standing ovation. I thought it was a showcase. It was, I was 14. And it was a freshman day at my high school and I sang a song. And nobody knew that you had these pipes, right? No. But you know, I'm, you've been in the shower singing. I didn't judge it. I just knew it made me feel good that it just calmed me in it. You know, yeah, I get started really early with my, with my mom pissing me off about something and she didn't give me 50 cents to go to the store or whatever. And what would you do? Just give me the, let me understand the process. I would, I would be in my room like, Hi, my mom is so mean. She wouldn't give me 50 cents. And I really wanted to watch her my call in. My, my, you know, this was a challenge. No, I didn't think it was talent. I didn't think about it at all. It was just something that made me feel better. That's what music does for me and it still does all this time later. It's the same. So, because your instrument is just, I mean, what is your relationship with your instrument? I know internally it suits you. It does all those things. Yeah. You must have a very high regard for it, right? No, you, I'm not, you look at it. I mean, it is a gift, right? Yes. Yeah, yeah. So, do you protect it? Do you, does it define you? It's a part of my life. And that's the way I look at it. It's not you? No, I'm a lot of things. I'm not one thing. I've never, I don't ever recall being one thing. You know, I think I'm sweet, but I also think I'm spicy. I think that I'm intelligent, but I could do dumb shit. You know what I mean? I can't. I'm actually from Philly. I love you. You know, I'm from. Yeah, yeah. And my voice is one portion of my existence. And I love it. The best thing I can do for it sometimes is to just be quiet. That helps. But it's the, the writer in me comes before the singer in me. Wow, because I have to have something to say. If I don't have anything to say, what am I singing for? What's this about? What's this all about? Because the writing tells me the emotion. And I'm like a big advocate for like Anamana Pia. Do you remember that from elementary school? I kind of do. Yeah, until just now I can get forgotten about it forever. It's like zap. Yeah. How the words should sound like it just sound like what you're saying. So joy has a little extra in it. Love, love. It's soft. It floats. You know, and that's the way I look at the writing. So the words tell me how to sing the song. Wow. So I have to have the words first for me anyway. Yeah. I wonder how is that common among the peers? Was that a unique thing to you? I don't know. The words are everything. Like even with acting, what is the script doing? You know, what does the script say? You know, luckily I've been able to maneuver at times with some of the words. And it depends on the director. So even with your acting, the sound of the words informs you. The words that sound. Yes, and the words inform the emotion. Wow. If I don't have anything to say, then I'm just, am I still just be humming? That's so funny because when we started this talk today, we were saying the words. Yes. Isn't that what? How did we get to that? My brain is... We're defining journalism. Oh, yes. Yes. I said, I said, I'm so proud of you watching you, you know, because this journalist, I don't think I'm a journalist. And I'm like, I think you are. You ask important questions or heartfelt questions or two people that are in this industry. Yeah. And they talk to you honestly and openly. That's interesting. We set the tone of this conversation about words. Oh, let's get it. Yay. We're going to take a quick little break. I was so nice. If I had your voice, I would sing all the time, Jill. Like, this is what God didn't give me your gift, or a gift similar to yours. Because I would be so annoyed with it. Like God would. I probably have been annoying to a bunch of people. If I... At some point, I remember friends telling me to shut the fuck up. No, impossible. Jill, let's do it at clock at a bar at night. Shut the fuck up. And you're like, because I had a whole bunch on my mind. That's kind of how it works. Oh my God, that's yummy. You like it. I do. Okay. Okay. What do we tell you? To longevity? Yeah. Passion. Uh-huh. Fun. And palabras. And palabras. Nice. Mmm. That's good, Jill. Me, me, me, me. That's gonna be good. That's gonna be good. All right, this interview's about to take a turn, guys. Because we've just had it another layer to our conversation. So you're thinking about upgrading to the all new iPhone 17 Pro. Designed to be the most powerful iPhone ever. But are you also thinking about the traffic on your way to the store or transferring all your data and all the time that takes? Well, the good news is that when you order a brand new phone online with Boost Mobile, they'll send an expert to your home or to your work to deliver your brand new iPhone 17 Pro and get you all set up. Boost Mobile can do that within minutes. No hassle. All you gotta do is visit boostmobile.com to get started. Delivery available for select devices purchased at boostmobile.com. Terms apply. So, okay, so now we're here. So you take this time. You're back, making music. What season is this for you? I don't necessarily know. Really? I will say that I've been waiting for this my whole life. I've been waiting for it to be this age and to have this level of, I'm gonna call it wisdom to experience all the things that I have. I've been waiting to speak from this position where I've had a life. Okay, a whole life filled with definitely some disruption, some disappointment, some passion. Thank you. So, I wish you'd go in his went somewhere. Of course. Good for you. Thank you kindly. Some wealth, some lack. And I really like to dig into those things. Like when I have to say that when I'm sad, I really allow it. I don't fight it. I'm gonna go ahead and just feel the feel. If I want to cry again, I'm gonna do it. And when I'm finished, I'm finished. I feel like that's the only way to now I know that that's the only way to move through life other than that. You know, just covering it up and pretending that everything is okay. It's so good. It's like when you fall down, when you try to break your fall, it takes so much longer, it's so much sloppier. You could actually hurt yourself more. More. Where's if you just kind of just... You've seen people on ice like, what the fuck? You've seen it. Maybe if you just slide with that thing, you know, it's probably down. How about just slide out on the ice? Maybe you should. I saw my grandmother do it and my grandfather had passed away. And we came into the house and she was on the floor. And she was crying. Oh God, that sound, that sound, because he was wonderful. I have had some beautiful men in my life. I'm very, very, very grateful for that. My grandmother laid on that floor and she cried. And I don't know. Maybe all day it was terrible sounds coming from there in her room. And then the next morning, I guess that's what it took her. She cried all night, sobbed and moaned and yelled sometimes. It was scary. My mother and I kind of slept on the floor outside of her room just in case. And she got up, fried some fish, made some grits, and we had her biscuits. And it was as if nothing had happened. Well, she was done. She did what she had to do. We knew he wasn't well. We knew it was a matter of time. Was this recent? No. No, I was a child. Those things have really big impact on your life. What did for me just watching her go through that process? I was like, that's how you deal with it. That's a woman. Oh, so you were young and were taught how to grieve? I was taught how to do a lot of things. I wanted to watch my women, my aunts and my mom and my grandma, be adults. I thought it was fantastic. I couldn't wait to wear big rings. Big rings and big bracelets and big glasses. Oh, I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait. And I feel like this is that error for me. Now I'm here. That's interesting. Yeah, this is good. I'm grown, grown. I see that. I'm grown, grown too. But I gotta tell you, sometimes I feel like I'm in my grown, grown bag and I got this. I know this. I've done this. I've felt this. But even in this big, grown age, sometimes shit surprises you. Sometimes just when you think you have it all figured out. Shocking all. Shocking mother fucking all. I just had a moment like that recently. I just know that. Yeah, we just got a lot of shit figured out at a big age. Right. Yes, but life will keep teaching you. Absolutely. But as you grow and as you age, you learn how to handle the twist in turns. You might for me, I sometimes have to just get still. Like, okay, that was a lot. Let me just, let me just sit down. Okay, I'll make a good cup of coffee. You know, I'll call one of my incredible friends. And be expressively honest. And I have, oh, even the weeding of friends. Oh, it's delightful. Talk to me about that. Oh, that part. I have friends. Okay, my best friend in the world, the only person I had ever called best friend. Has been my best friend since I was two years old. Two, I'm 53. We've been friends for 51. We've never had a argument in our lives. I have one since eight. So I know. Bless. I know. I know exactly that. That is one of the greatest blessings in life. It is one of the greatest blessings. And then the rest of my beautiful friends, where, you know, we're 20-some-odd years in, 30 years in a great friendship. Yeah. And some people, they fall off. They just have to go for multiple reasons. Sometimes people are toxic. And I know that's a word that people use. But I mean bad energy. I mean, we're toxic for you. Toxic just for me. Like some things I can't do with you. Like, oh, that does the sick good. I go, my mother told me a long time ago when it came to drug dealers and people in the neighborhood. I'm like, but he's so nice, mom. He's such a great guy. You know, he lets me read him at Garallon Po. You know, he wants me to read him, he wants me to read him stories. And she's like, Bullets don't have names. So your energy that you're carrying and the way that you move and the things that you do, the Bulletin have a name. I might get caught in the crossfire of your foolishness. I'm going to let you go. I'm going to let you go. And at this age, baby, my sword is hot. It's sharp. It's black so you can't see it in the dark. And it will cauterize before you know your dead. And I have no negative feelings about it. I just feel like a ninja. Out of my life. That is fantastic. I love it. I love it. What is usually the cause of that? I know toxic energy, but like for you, you know, one of the reasons that I'll cut somebody out is if they like their bullshit too much. You know, you know, some folks, if you cannot afford the thing, don't buy the thing and then come to me to help you out with major life things. It's mainly major life bills. Yeah. You know, you need, you're going on a holiday, a holiday. Okay, a vacation. No, a trip is a week. A vacation is two weeks and a holiday is a month and over. Yeah. You've gone on a holiday, but you don't have your mortgage. Okay, maybe you needed that. I understand. But the next time, oh, and the time after that, here comes that. Here we come. Yeah. Because that's enough. It's enough. You're not responsible with your life and your finance. So why am Earth? Should I help you be irresponsible? Why should I put myself $700 is the same use it is the me babe. I could, I could fill my house with groceries with $700. I could buy myself a nice little pair of shoes. I could, I could help a friend who needs it. It could be 700 or 7000 or 70,000. Whatever the case may be, I can't play with you when you're playing with your finance. I don't, I won't do it. So a lot of, a lot of family members got cut off. Because I won't, I won't do it with you. You do it too often. And old Jill won't come and say the thing. No, she's not. That blade is brutal. It's over. Yeah. And sometimes, you know, I just give somebody the money and let them go where they got to go. My mother always said, my mother always says, don't never lend anybody money. Yeah. If you're willing to give somebody money to help them, that's cool. And then if you get it back, it's like, a boat is amazing. But if you give somebody money, give it with the intention of you probably never going to see it again. Right. So that you don't get disappointed. And if also you don't have it to give away, don't lend it. If you ask me for a loan, I'm going to give you a loan. You are. You expect it back? Because we're, we're adult here, yeah. To us in agreement. Yes, in agreement. And I'm not going to break you. So I'm not, obviously, you need a help. So if you, you've got to pay me back, $25 a month should not break you. Okay. But if you don't keep up with that $25 or $50 or $100, however much we agreed on, and I think I'm being kind, this is a no interest loan. Okay. So I'm going to need you to respect our agreement. So the next time if you need me, I'm there for you because you have respect for my work. This is my work. Yeah. And my mother, you know, my mother lives on a cruise ship. My son goes to an amazing school. You know, these things require payments every month. So I need you to act like it. Hey guys, today's show is brought to you by Hard Rock Bet. Hard Rock Bet is a sports book app. And it's a really simple sports book app. If you just want to see what everyone's talking about or if you don't even really care about the game, but you want to make it a little more interesting, you could just bet a buck or two very easy. And one Hard Rock Bet player last week turned a $3 bet into over $29,000 in winnings. And if you want to see more wins like that or you just want to see what I'm talking about, you could follow at Hard Rock Bet on social. Football season is still going. 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Those things. That's how I pretty much deal with it. And I might buy myself something that I really want. Life is still good. Look at my new, whatever. Or I'll make a donation to something that matters to me. That makes sense. You know what I'm saying? That's nice. I use money. I use it for my betterment. And I think that's the way for me now. I understand that it's a tool. And I should use it. And enjoy and see the world as much as possible. And get back to my community too. It makes me happy. You can't tell me nothing. You're a happy person overall, don't you? Most of the time. Yeah. Most of the time I live in joy. Good for you. My mentor talks about it all the time. Who's your mentor? Pamela McLean. She is incredible. Full of life. Very funny. Very open and raw and honest with me. Has been a support system. Whether it's with my kid. Or in my relationships. Or in my career. In my fashion. You know, she's just. She's a grand dom. And I'm watching her and loving her. What is the relationship of a mentor to you? Like, what is that? Is that a daily thing? Is that a weekly thing? Is that just you watching and being inspired? Is that what is that? Is winning need. Or when it comes up, I can just think of her and she'll call me. You know, I could think of her and she'll call my kid. You know, I could think of her and she'll call my partner. Like, she's very present in my existence. So that's pretty much how it works. For my, I have mentees. Sometimes I don't talk to them. You know, for a year or two. But then I'll know. Or they'll know. Or need me for something and call. And then now we're seeing each other like two or three, four times a month. Which is crazy because we haven't seen each other. You know, that much. But now we're right back connected. Friendships like that. Mentorship like that. You don't need to call somebody every day. No, it's like it's not. It's the universe. It's brilliant. No, I get that. Yeah, totally get that. Yeah, a mentor. I, you know, I don't really have a mentor. That's why Ash is so interesting to me. I'd never, I have people that influence me or I have resources. My mother's always been my kind of mentor in a way. Yeah. You know, but no, I've always always kind of like, that's why I asked that. I'm so interested in me when some, I think there's so much value to it. I do have mentees. People that I kind of coach along the way. Um, but no, is it too late? No. I can go get me one now. No, I can go get me one now. I think about it this way like, oh my god, I'm, I'm 20, almost 26 years into this industry, which is very cool to me. Yeah. There's a lot of people don't last that long. But then I'm looking at my beloved Gladys Knight, who's, you know, 50 plus years and Paddy Lebel 50 plus years and the fantastic Shaka Khan, you know, 50 plus years like Dion Warwick like 60 plus years. Smoky Robinson. What is that? How much time is that? Like God darn. Yeah. And to, to remain sane, you know, to remain loving, to, um, like, enjoy the fruits of their labor, like it's beautiful. I just love to see it and that's what I'm on from myself. Let's talk about now where you're at because music's coming, which is very exciting. The world is very different by the way. The world and the music business and just, I don't know, the whole space is so much different than the last time you put music out. How does that feel for you? Is that exciting? Is that weird? I don't know. Urged you. I think you'll think about that. I don't. I don't think about it. I think about can I get butts in seats? Because publishing is messed up, you know, getting a percentage of a penny for a song that you worked, so it could be a month, could be three months, could be all night, could be an hour, but nonetheless you worked on it and you hired musicians and you're in a studio and, you know, all of those things, like to get a percentage of a penny is so disrespectful. I can't. I, oh, it hurts my feelings so much. And I think about it in this state, the way the world is and the way the industry is, like if you, if you can't perform live, then you're not going to make it. I can survive, yeah. I don't know how anybody survives without live performance. And then also just so happens to be my favorite thing. Yeah. You know, now I get to, I'm an amen to let it. Thank you. I get to convey these words. Yeah. I get to take my time. I get to languish in the language. With musicians that I respect and that have multiple vocabulary. All that thing is exciting to me. Exciting for us. I'm so glad. Because I'm excited for it. Because I love it. I don't know why you were talking just now. And I'm thinking about like the level of artists and talent and how the, in the past 20 years, and in the end, you'll just came up for me. And I wonder for you, because you also named Patty and all these, like legends, and those legends that we've lost. I feel like I don't know. It's just been a lot of loss in the past few years. I just wonder how that affects you as an artist. I know you would do your friends too, right? We were not. Not really. No. Why did I assume that? Just music please? I think everybody assumed that we would know each other there. Did you go ahead? We know each other at all. I never met him. And it goes back and forth. People are calling me like, you remember when you met DiAngelo? Like, have you never met the Angel? I never met DiAngelo. I think you were like best friends and went on tour. Everybody thinks you guys were at the Dave Sheppell event together. Was he not there? Because I didn't, in my mind, he was at the Dave Sheppell event. If he was there, I didn't meet him. You know how many people were at the Dave Sheppell? Yes, I move. There was so many people. I've been at Essence while he was on stage. I got to see the performance. But I didn't meet him. It's not that I didn't want to meet him. Yeah. I have a girlfriend who tells me you met him at a studio in New York. And I'm like, if I met the Wizard of Oz, I would remember. Is that how you think of him as the Wizard of Oz? Absolutely. Absolutely. What is that? Why, why, why that? Because he's a gift. He's magical. That kind of that level of soul and passion and musicianship and sexy. You know, his timing. You remember him. I would have remembered. Like, come on. Who doesn't remember meeting the Wizard of Oz? And that's how I feel. Like, I would have remembered that. Show me pictures. And then put me in a hospital. Give me a little time away because clearly something's going on. That time at the at the Sheppell event. How do you reflect on that era and that time? It was such a magical, I don't know moment. Just seeing all of you guys together. And that epic, legendary you and Erica moment. It was like a rat battle on stage with voices. And I don't know how do you reflect on that time and that moment? Oh, man. It definitely wasn't a rat battle. It felt like a rat battle. You see for me watching it. Yes. Oh, no. Because it was respectful. But it felt like, I know you said, I think I've heard you say that. That it wasn't in that way. Not for me. I don't think it was that way for Erica. But she is kind of like, you know, she's a thugger. So, but that wasn't that wasn't where I was coming from. I didn't even know she was there. And then I heard her voice. And then I heard like when I watch it now, I hear where we clicked. And we started this swim together. And I said, oh, man, what is happening sonically here? You know, all of a sudden we were magical. We were a reshion. We were women. We were women of African descent in this space. When I even now when I watch it, I think it's powerful. Like I left myself and I loved it. Anytime I can leave myself, I think it's just fantastic. That was a busy day. It was a lot of people. It was a lot of questions. It was a lot of traffic. There was I tend to get still before I perform anywhere for anything. And it just there was nowhere to go. I had no like peace of mind. So I was working hard on just trying to be still in this moment. Because there's talent, quite lead. And there's freaking, you know, seeing Bay. And there's James Poiser. And there's Lauren Hill. And there's like, there's Kanye West. There's John Legend. Like this is amazing. And then of course there's this audience that are just waiting. Miles open eyes open waiting for whatever we're going to give them. And it was divine. It was divine. I was a little hurt that Dave didn't invite me to radio city music hall. The nurse. I was. I was like, I was there too. But I guess I missed that one. Have you spoken so far? I never told him that. Oh, come on. So he's I didn't tell him. But you know, that's my dude. He'll. Something will happen. I forgave him. You know, it's so interesting. You talk about being such fans of everybody. You have such a confidence. Even in that moment, I would never think that you were looking around at everybody. I was like, my God, there's there's there's there's. Because you you're you show up with such a confidence. So where does that come from? And is that all the time? Like do you carry confidence all the time? Would you have to summon it? What do you? I would say no. I would love to carry confidence all the time. I would say no. Because I know it's a gift, not a given. So I'm waiting for the gift to move me. And that's my whole energy that I'm just okay. Here I am. You know, I'm in this space with these amazing people. And I respect them all. It's so cool. Okay. What are you going to do with me? What are you going to do with me? And then I tend to only really speak to the people that it has to be a little. And then I'm like, you know, hey, I see you. I see you. You see me? Now we can have a conversation. And I make my way over to them. And sometimes it's reciprocated. Sometimes I feel real stupid. But I'm honoring myself. You know, and I'm okay with that. Yeah. I've been, I've been, you know, dismissed by a couple of people that I thought would embrace me. And I was like, maybe next time. Right? And maybe that is confidence. The, you know, the confidence to be all of myself, whether it's scared or nervous, vulnerable, vulnerable. That's it is what it is. Has anything ever in that moment surprised you? Because to me, that sounds like you submit almost. Yep. Right? You're just like submitting to it. I'm a dominant submissive. And in the majority of my life. I'm strong-willed. But if I see the need to be quiet and listen, I will shut up. If I feel the need to follow the path, I will follow the path. But if I don't, you know, feel moved by something, I will make my own way. I will follow my own path. I have to be moved. And that's with everything. Has it ever waited for that to happen? And it didn't. Yep. Tell me that. Tell me. We broke up. What do you mean? What do you mean? We broke up. You know, if I'm not inspired, if I'm not motivated or moved, then I can't stay. I can't. How do you deal with breakups? By the time we- Some women it. By the time I break up with somebody, you know, it's pretty clear that that's what's going to happen. I start to get more and more quiet. And I have less offerings. And that's kind of how it works. So you slowly fade out. I've fade out. Yeah. I know some women stay too long. Some women take heartbreak really bad, where it takes them down and they don't get back up. Yeah. You know, I think, I don't know, I think maybe we're not always prepared women in life for how- I feel like your grandmother maybe prepared you in that moment for some sort of- She's preparing for a lot of things. She did. Yeah, she said, no man is above you and no man is beneath you. And I, you know, I took that as people. You know, so if you treat people that way, then you'll be just fine in this life. Yeah. I know I know, um, as someone who's built sets and hung lights and mop floors and clean toilets that if this person is not here to participate, your show, your show is not happening. Your shit ain't running. You need everybody and you need the energy to be good. You need to be graceful towards people. You know, and be grateful for their interaction and for their skill set. Because other than that, it's not going to happen. I didn't put this makeup on. My friend did it. No, you got a squad here, I see. A beautiful squad of people. Great energy and skill set. It matters, you know, from the person who's making the food for all of us, you know, catering. To the lovely person that ran out and got our beverage. That's Sarah. Thank you, Sarah. Thank you, Sarah. Good looking now. Because this is nice. I was thinking too, like, about we just did an episode with Asa Ferg. He was telling us that he's been studying and trying to be in flow state, you know, like he, that is his thing, right? Mm-hmm. And that's when the idea is when the things come, like, you have to make space for that. And I don't know, when I watch you perform on your stage, you always seem like you are locked into another level of something. Thank you. Is that what it feels like inside? What is that? How do you get there? Ooh. I'm a ball of nerves before I pass the stage. Mm-hmm. There's a, there's an invisible line on the floor that takes you to the stage. I'm a ball of nerves. I'm terrified. I don't know if they're gonna like me. I don't know for what the right thing. I don't know. I do all these things. That surprises me so much, but okay. I mean, what, what, what good is it for me to pretend with you? Yeah. Yeah, I'm saying like, this is, this is who I am. So I feel all these things. And then I cross that line and then she shows up. And I allow her to take over. And I don't want you to get, you know, anybody to get confused and think something negative or y'all, I don't know about these people in the devil. I don't, I don't know anything about it. I don't know about selling souls. I don't know anything about it. It doesn't interest me. It's not my thing. I couldn't imagine selling something that doesn't even belong to me in this way. You know, like, what do you mean? My soul is in partnership with the creator period. What are you talking about? I don't know, but maybe people know it. Okay, stay over there. But for me, I align myself with, with a positive force, a good energy. And I allow that to come through. I align myself with fearlessness because I want to say the thing that's going to touch that person in the seventh row and the fifth seat. I want to touch their lives in some way, shape, or form. And that person is all the way up there. I want them to hear what I'm saying to them. And it's more than just me saying it. You need to hear this for you. And then this state at 53 with this life experience that I've been having and these failures and these successes and love lost and losing people and getting rid of people and all the things, I just, that's my job. My job is to communicate to your spirit, to be a sound, be a words. Words and sounds. How do you get there? Is there a way? Is there a trick? Or you just, you have a direct line? I have a direct line. I just allow it. I just allow it. Because I think sometimes even with this show a lot, you know, in real life. My hope is that to my version of the person in the fifth row, well, the 13th is somebody who's sitting home right now who is disconnected. Yeah. And then how do we speak to them in a way that they learn from your story? How to get connected? Because do you think that everybody has a line? Yeah, you do. You do. Yeah, born with it. It's up to you to do the math and go search them for it. You know, that's up to you. Did you always have it? Yes. From as soon as I can remember. Because I didn't make, I didn't say words like mama, dada, I just grunted. What age is this? As soon as I can make sounds. I'm a interesting story from the very beginning and my first words were a sentence. And it just is what it is. I have allowed myself to be friends with the creator. That's my best friend. Like, it's my best friend. And then it's my best friend. You know, to me, like when I talk about my, my relationship is my best friend. The bestest friend I've ever had is the whole God period. Seize me through, tells me quietly, don't go that direction. Go this one. And sometimes I go the wrong direction and now I got to learn. And it is what it is. Thank you for the lesson. It didn't kill me, bent me, didn't break me. Thank you for the lesson. And that's how I exist. Now, when it comes to other people finding their connection or their direct line, I think it's a lot of ways. Hug a tree, walk barefoot in the grass, talk to an animal, be still, meditate, listen to music, dance, make love. Sometimes people find it in a facility, you know, in a building. Do that. You know, go to church or something. It's that's the thing. Do it. Maybe some people find it in travel. You know, but go looking for it. You dash your math to do. You know, um, but I, I sincerely hope I inspire other people to find theirs. Because it's good. It's really, really good. I say this all the time that this is the best life I have ever had. I don't know about the other ones. But this one. Pretty good. This one is great. And like you said, you've been to some things. Was there was there any time? Because it's easy on the other side to be like, yeah, I've been through some things and I learned that I was fine. But like, whether times where you were not, whether it was times where you're like, oh, oh, I'm in trouble. There were some things I didn't like. You know, definitely didn't like. I didn't like getting a divorce. They say divorce is like, what is it? That's a, yeah, divorce and taxes. Tax. The divorce is a very traumatic experience. Yeah. Yeah. The first one was traumatic. The second one wasn't. How so? Because I didn't care. Well, that makes me... The first one, you know, we were really great friends. We're like the best of friends. So it's sat different. He's still a really good human being. The second one I... You're okay, cutting. You put the sword out. It took the sword out. Yeah, yeah, I'm fine. I'm fine. But you made it to the side of both. Yeah. Yeah. And you still believe in love? Yeah. No heartedly. Would you do it again? Yeah. Maybe. Maybe. Yep. Maybe. Yes. But I would... That felt like it was. What I heard was yes. I would keep it to myself, I'll tell you that. No. Yep. So it could be mine. Yeah. You know, something has to just be mine for private. I get that. Yeah. How do you... What do you say about... Being open to transitioning things? I think about your career. It's not just music. I mean, you had a lovely acting career. Thank you. So far so good. Right? So far so good. So far so good. You're gonna just jump in and did it well. The theater started before that. I knew that. I knew that about you. I did. I don't know why I'm thinking of films. I'm thinking of specifically why did I get married. Yeah. That role. Yeah. Just because I was reading that, that's coming back, right? You shot it one more time. It is coming back. Yeah. Yeah. It is. How do you feel about how that role to set in people's lives and hearts? And this means and... I don't know. Something about that character. Something about Sheila is like, what is that? Like, did it surprise you? And do you feel what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about. I know what you're talking about. There is a deep connection to this movie. Yes. How many mentions her to mean pretty much every day of my life? Every day of your life. Pretty much. Why do you... Why do you... I think I know why. I think. But why do you think... No, tell me why you think. Why I think is because... You know, there are certain people that same role... They could have played that same role. And you could have been like, Why would she let that... She could almost seem naive or it could be annoying to watch a woman make... a bad decision with a partner or let somebody treat her that way. But something about the way you portrayed her in this character... You kind of... I don't know, you rooted for her. You saw her soul and... and... sympathized with her. And then also we saw her kind of raise up and find her way. But I don't know, that was beautiful the way... I don't know, it was like a fine line of like... you could tell there's a toughness under there and she chose to be so soft to this... to this man who didn't deserve her. By the way, he probably lives his life every day hearing. What's Mike's... Richard T. Jones is literally one of the nicest people on the planet. That poor man. And so funny and so cool. Because he was abused, he was brutal. He was horrible. He was horrible human beings. He was horrible, so mean. I would roll my eyes at him today if I saw him in the street. Oh, I'm scared. There he do that. A vitamin hug of... You do the sweetest. There he is. But that's acting. Yeah. That's acting. Of course it is. Of course it is. Yeah, the people will still, you know, like... Oh Jill, you let that guy treat you like that. No, no, no. No, no. That was acting. That was acting. And it was written, you know. And I just wanted to give her grace. I just wanted to give her grace. I've got a bad reputation. I think at this point where people say that my characters tend to be weaker. And I think that there are times when everybody is a little weaker. Yes. I think there are times... And I know there's a lot of hard folk, you know, that, oh, I don't get putt. Yeah, I'm straight. I know what I'm doing. I don't care. I would never do it. Never, never, never. But I mean, those are the ones that get gott. We had a feeling to hurt because you don't have any vulnerability in you. And I think that that lives as well. You know, I think that sometimes women are soft, maybe a little too soft. I think that women are sometimes strong, sometimes too strong. You know what I mean? Like we're really out here just being people. Yeah. And living within the circumstances, sometimes that our life presents. We can break out of those circumstances. But sometimes you're in them. And you have to figure out how to move forward. And it's not... Every path is not the same. You know, we're really humans out here. It's like trying to figure it out. And that's the gist of it. If you don't get that, I don't know what to tell you. So I play characters sometimes that are a little... Have you ever been a Sheila in a relationship? Never. Really, never, ever. Never. Nobody has ever made you do some out of character or out of pocket or... It wasn't that. It was probably the sex that made me a little less powerful in the moment. Somebody took you down. Yeah. Thank goodness for that. Like I said, I am a dominant submissive. So I appreciate the time when I actually can submit. Now I've learned with grace and age that I cannot submit until I can see that I can submit. It can't just be words. It can't be an action. It has to be a real thing. Like in relationship, like... This is how you guide your relationship. It has to be... ...consphere firm and consistent. I need some charge. Come on. It's got to be... ...bear firm and consistent. That's what you need from your man. That's what I need. If your man is fair, firm, consistent, you will submit. Yep. What is submissive, Jill? What does that mean to anything? No, no, no, no. I'm still here. You're still here. I'm still here. And I'm here to help a partnership. But you trust to... Yes. I want to be able to close my eyes while you drive. I want to be able to sleep while you... ...maneuver. I want to be at peace. That's important to me. This whole life has been about me finding and maintaining a certain level of peace. So I need to know that you are who you say you are. Even when nobody's looking. I need that. And that takes time. I call it... ...malasses-ass. Slow. You know... Have you ever had that? Yes. So you believe in it still? Yes, I do. Yes, I do. What do you think the signs are that? So as women's watching now and they're like, yes, I want that too. How do you identify that? Hmm. Like, how do you identify? Like, we see... How do you identify it? Let me think about that. That's a good question. Simple things. When there... Is there... Is there... Okay. I'm getting something to eat or I'm making something to eat. And I made you some too. Whether I asked you if you wanted it or not. I'm just considering you. A cycle of consideration is a very, very good thing to pay attention to. That's nice. That's a friend. Ooh, a friend. Okay. Um... The... The deep desire to share your dreams with me... To share your accomplishments and your failures with me... That means, oh, wow, we are friends. Okay. That's good. Um... Your willingness to ride with me... Which whatever I'm doing... Where we're going to the beach. Cool. We're going skiing. Okay. You know what I mean? I don't... Maybe someone in my neck like the beach or like skiing. But I'm going to participate with you because you're my friend. Friends are a lot harder. Like genuine friendship is a lot harder to betray than something where we're just... Attracted to each other. Attraction fades. Attraction shifts. You know, this is my thinking about that. I think creating a friendship, a real friendship... Is better than anything else you could possibly do. Then you can choose if you want to move forward with that. Do you have red flags? Um... Of red flags, if you can't afford it, don't spend it. I'm not going to judge you for being smart. You know... I... A red flag is... When you're not participating in your child's life. Like... How do you... How do you do that? I've seen... Like I said, I have really good men in my life. Friends that have gone through the fire to spend time with their children. And... I respect that. The mom and the... they don't get along. And it's... it's constantly... But listen, keep persevering for the sake of your child. Because they need you. They tell you different. You know, it's not telling you the truth. Right. Yeah, that's a red flag. Get out of here. Yeah, the spending, the participation with your... Your family, your children, particularly with your children. Excuse me. A red flag. I can do a whole relationship show with Jill. This is good. Listen, give me the red flag. It's not just the stuff that I've experienced. It's also the stuff that I've paid attention to. Like I have really good friends that let me in there. Like male and female that let me into their lives. So I get a chance to learn some things without actually having to go through it myself. You know, that's... Yeah, those are... You know, those are the red flags I would think. Yeah. Oh, I think a red flag is good. This one is annoying. When someone only gives you enough loving to pacify, but not fully please. How dare they? Do you mean physically? Do you mean... Oh, yes. How dare you. You mean don't take it all. They don't take it all the way. Yeah. Yeah, just enough. I'm giving you just enough. You mean to tell me that you flew all the way here. Do we go... We go get this one time? One time? And then you're going to go to sleep. No, no, no, no, no. I think I find that as a red flag. Like you're saving it for somebody else. Mm-hmm. You're sharing that thing with somebody else. I think you are. Because who wouldn't want to serve my purpose? All the time. Serve my purpose. How dare you. Maybe the man's tired. Maybe the man to work all day. You better say that before you get here. You're bouncing around the world. And now we're finally in the same spot. Don't do that. Be an exhaust yourself. Wait, I just feel like we were bouncing all over the place. Did I get an answer on when this movie was coming out? No. I don't know. All right, so then it doesn't matter. No, I don't know. But it's coming. Did you get what I was saying about Sheila? I just feel like... I don't know. I'm so glad that people didn't like... I think it was because it's you. But it's not. I know it's not. But you carry a certain strengthness automatically. Thank you. So even if you play super vulnerable, I don't know. There's like an air of... We know it's in there. Like we know there's some strength in there. Come on, Sheila. Come on, Sheila. Sheila, and that's all right. It didn't book a boy. And that's all right. I didn't like... How much people were made fun of her? No. I didn't. I didn't like that. I remember the scene on the plane. And... Man. The scene on the plane... Tyler had extras. Uh-huh. Um... Make fun of me... Uh, when I got on the plane. What? They were just going back and forth, making jokes about Sheila's weight. And obviously, you know, you know, I had on a whole fat suit. And it was... It was cumbersome. You know, so the walk was... was genuine and the sitting down was genuine. And all the things. I didn't make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a I think I told him once or twice, you know, that I remember that, you know. And that's when I decided to that I come as a woman comes from a family of Amazon's, my mother's six one, you know, I'm the runt of my family, okay? Everybody is tall. I decided that I am not that, but I have some, anyway, we feel better. And that's how I, that's how I move through my life. Like you're not going to define me as a thing. I'm multicolored, I'm multi-dimensional. I'm, you know, I'm soft, like I said, I'm soft and I'm strong. You know, I'm a whole human being out here, you know, who comes from some pretty dark places like in North Philadelphia and some pretty beautiful places like North Philadelphia. You know, it's a, it's a stew, you know, to make the, to make a person. And I feel the same way about acting, like it's a stew. There's other parts of Sheila that luckily Sheriff Troy saw, you know, and then they began their life together. Like, and even Mike, you know, in the second one, he saw her too and needed her assistance because they always need you. And she was Sheriff Mike in the, in the new one. Oh, sorry. I couldn't help that. You just took me to a place I needed to know right away. I'm going to say Sheriff. And no Mike could have been saved. He could come back like who knows, right? Last we saw him. He had cancer. Yeah, remember that. I mean, cancer takes a lot out of person. Maybe some of the equal to, do you believe do you believe in people that deep like a person like Mike? Oh, like in real life. Could you, can people be redeemed into that level now with me? No, no, no, in life overall, perhaps now with me. Right. But not with you. Listen, I can, I can forgive you from afar, but I'm more likely to forget you. Then forgive you. No, you did that shit. You really, really tried to harm me. And that's terrible. Who wants to hurt me? Where? Oh, you deserve every bit that's coming your way. And it is, it is. It's not a threat. It's a fact. I come here to do no harm. I know that for sure. So if you attempt to harm me, oh, oh, and I've seen it time after time after time after time after time. And that's all I really can say at this point, like if someone is attempting to harm me, I'm just, I just feel pity. So where does forgiveness sit in that? Oh, now you know, are you a forgiving person? Can you be a forgiving person? I probably could. It's not what I'm working on right now. Got it. Is that the season you're in right now? It's not the season I'm in. Let's say somebody who's unconditioned like your child or your mother or a sibling. Like you have to have forgiveness, right? Like forgiveness has to be part of the program, no? For someone like a child, like my child. Um, do you still have to think about it? I do. Yeah. I do. I don't know where that is where you got to forgive people. I don't know. Like if that's how you feel and that's what you should do, but if that's not how you feel, like hold on a minute, you probably feel some other feelings. Let them happen. You know, give us the space so you get to forgiveness and then it's genuine. I don't want to just say it and then it not be true. I'd rather just wait. You think people sometimes maybe rush to forget this? Sure. Yeah. We have a little segment on our show today. It's a boy's note. Usually a fan of yours, fan of the pod. No, you were coming. So it's a question or a comment presented by a boost mobile. It is our boy's note. This is for Jill Scott. Hey, Jill, you're from Philly. You are probably one of the most confident women I know within their sexuality. And I really appreciate you for that. So I have a new man. And I can feel like a little shy in the bedroom sometimes. So do you have any advice like any one line errors? I think anything I could do to just like spice things up a little bit. She wants to go to a level of her sexuality. I don't, okay, this is a tough one because I don't know her. And I don't know what she wants. Does she want to be aggressive? Because if she wants to be aggressive, then, um, it's a mindset. It's, um, it's not asking for it's, it's taking and being confident in that. Confidence is the problem though. If she is internally aggressive, she has to figure out if she a dominant submissive or submissive dominant, or if she is submissive, submissive, or if she a dominant dominant. Like I don't know her self, she has to know herself in order to get what she wants out of this thing. Is she doing this just because she thinks he'll like it? You know, or is she doing this because she'll like it? That is like the most important part of it all. Hey, some people know this about me. I know DJ Premier knows this about me because we've had extensive conversations about it. But I am a huge fan of Vanessa Del Rio. The porn star. Yeah. Um, I, I love how confident she was in her film. Now I didn't expect to be looking at Vanessa Del Rio, but I found my uncle stash, right? Like most of these Vanessa Del Rio back in the day, a lady's night. That's a, I used to have a show called Lady's Night and she came once or twice all to the show. I've been trying to have lunch or dinner with her for like 10, 15 years. Then she know you love her. I send her messages, but I don't get anything back. I remember she was, it was years ago, but I remember, I met her and she was lovely and super warm and like, I don't know. I have her book. I have the sign lithograph. Like I love her. It's real because she's the first person that I saw. Um, and in comparison to anything else that I've ever seen that absolutely, absolutely wanted what she was given and absolutely took what she wanted. And I said, that's it right there. That's the level of confidence that I want to have in my sexuality. But she knew what she wanted. If you read her book, she tells you all about what she wants and she got what she wanted. Um, if, if you find that in the tapes, those, so you find the set, the set changed. I watched and you picked her out the bunch and you were like, this, she's different. I was, yeah, because she, she liked it like that. She didn't kind of like it. She wasn't, it wasn't about getting a paycheck. I could tell in her eyes. She's the only one dissecting the point. I could tell her. What's the meaning? What else is it? Ball research. Right. It's research. To find the bits and pieces that you like for yourself and then emulate them later in your, you know, in your sex life, I think that's what it's all about. Um, I think a lot of the, like the porn now is kind of performative. Um, and the soul in it. Yeah. Vanessa Del Rio has sold in everything that she did. And that's what I loved about her. I was like, that's, that's it right there. You know, she's not being taken advantage of. She is enjoying herself. That's what it looked like to me. Now she might tell me differently. I don't know. I just did great. I just read her book. And it still didn't read to me that, um, that she was being taken advantage of. She says she knew what she wanted very early in her life. And I'm like, are you going to front on that? You know, I, I, you are, you are moved and your operating system connects to, yes, um, knowing yourself, being present, yes, an ownership of whatever your shit is. And whatever your shit is. So that's really the answer to the question. If she wants to be more confident, she has to figure out how she wants to be more confident as a submissive because, you know, I could give tips here as a submissive. Do you want to give one just for shits and giggles? Let's say I, first of all, I hope that this is a really, really great boyfriend. And then he deserves it. And then he deserves it. Not everybody deserves your A game. Sometimes it's B or C, you know, and if it's B or C, you might not want to involve yourself at all. You know, save it for the good stuff, save it for the great, you know, that's a, that's a life lesson. I'm growing. If, if, if he's worth her submissiveness, then I would say, hands behind back, eyes closed, mouth open. And be still just wait. See what happens. If she wants to be aggressive, I would say, a tech, a tech, like a wild animal, a tech, bite, no boundaries, no boundaries, bite, grab scratch, whatever you need to. In your arm. Listen, if that's what you like, we should be doing what we like. Yeah. What we enjoy rather than, you know, what somebody else plays you to be, you know, I think that I really do. I think a lot of people will be more happy in their, you know, personal relationship. If they would really figure out what they actually like instead of trying to be what the other person likes word. Yeah. Great. Great. Great. That's what I think. That's a great part of that. Thanks. And I think the girls, the young girls over there, they giving you all this. That's what I think with the bars from Jill today. Come on now, but they have to deserve it. Yes. They deserve you. Were you always this confident about who you are sexually and all that? What did that come as this grown version of? I mean, I feel like it's in the music, but like, always me what I liked, always knew what I wanted to. I wanted to be like Vanessa Del Rio. I wanted to feel like that lady looked in her eyes. It wasn't a masquerade. It wasn't a, I'm a damsel, you know, she got what it seemed like she was gave what she wanted. And I'm not believing that. Like, why should I get what I want? I'm here too, you know, yes. And I do feel that way. But I also read books. And I also, you can watch porn, but you also read books. I read books. Yeah. And I do like the, the risque books. And I also like books like women who run with the wolves. I love that book very much. I love that book. It's so good. It's about all the folklore that involves women and how I hate to, it's, if I, if I say it this way, you might not read it. And I don't want you to do that. I want you to tell me. I believe you're a good storyteller. I'll try my best. Okay. But it's how the grim brothers who wrote, like, Hansel and Gretel, or I think they wrote that, but along those lines, those kinds of stories, where the woman is subjugated, or she is a witch when in actuality, she is an intuition. Her mother taught her about herbs, her aunt taught her about giving birth. And how to do that. She's a someone of substance and power, but the patriarchy is afraid of women such as that. So they painted her different. They made her a monster. They made her evil when she's just knowledgeable. And that is like, open my mind so much about who I am, who my mother is, who my grandmother is, you know, my grandmother could tell you who was calling before the phone rang. And that's just facts. My aunt Shirley could make you a meal that would make you feel so much better about everything. My mother's never been wrong about the sex of a child. You know, she makes the pregnant woman stand up and walk and she's all that's a boy. She's never been wrong in the course of my life. What is that then? That's intuition. And woman. That's that's woman. That's a power word to lock into your DNA. Yeah. It is. Do you think every woman is capable of that? Yup. What do you think they miss? I think probably society, you know, will tell you your something is wrong. Maybe you're religion. We'll tell you that something is wrong with you for having abilities and gifts. Maybe even your own family, you know, when I think of women, I always see them on like a whale or a horse, a stallion, or a unicorn. We're just warriors. Warriors, we bleed every month and don't die. What? That when the time comes, our whole universe moves and to open to allow someone to come through like, yo, you cannot for it on that. There's power in this thing. I want to I would love for more people to see, you know, to tap into that. To tap into it. All of this stuff is a culture. You making me feel very like, I don't know, like I need to do more. I need more. I don't know more womanly woman warrior shit. Go outside and grow. Yes. Growl at somebody. But don't be alarmed today later. The back of the show roar. I need a roar. Yeah. You deserve to roar. Right? Yeah. I'm going to do it today. Why not? It would be weird. I'm in the middle of. So what? You got a point. So what? I'm going to judge you now. After you've accomplished all of this in your lifetime. So what? Edge Martinez out there roaring in the middle of the street. Like a crazy lady. Hmm. I mean, you know, when I do it. Yeah. You know, you know, you know, it probably sounds beautiful. That's the thing. I sound. I sound like a. I growl at my son. You know, when he does really well, when he does, he gave a speech at his school. And he said, how'd I do? I was like, he was like, he felt it. He felt that because I did. And so did the audience. I, we're, we're not in tiny boxes. We are a whole spectrum of things. I believe it 100% and I hope to inspire people to find their own personal revolution because the trip is worth. The, the juice is worth the squeeze. Real shit. Real shit. Real shit. I feel like you always had yours. When did your revolution come though? Or did you, were you born with this? Because I feel like from, I don't know, talking to you today, did you never not have that? You say you always had it. I don't, I can't imagine. I don't know. You don't. If it's so long ago, I, maybe I chose to forget. I don't know. Okay. I don't know. Like I'm, I think I've always made decisions and did stuff and then lived with the consequences and changed. But is there a moment differently? Is there a moment in your mind? If you're telling the Jill Scott story, how she's just growling, warrior woman. Yeah. What is the vision of that? Is there a moment in your life and your career that reflects that? Were you being that or doing that at the highest level? I just wonder how you see her. Like how you say how you see women on whales and unicorns. Yes. I guess I'm asking you about that about yourself. How do you see that moment? There has been a moment in my career where I brought a dildo to work. I was working in with musicians, producers rather, a gang of them. And I didn't feel like I was being heard. And I brought a dildo when I banged it on the table. Sorry. Sorry, friend. I banged it on the table. I'm like, can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? Because clearly there's something missing that you're not hearing what I'm saying to you. So if I had a penis. Right. You would take a picture. Maybe you could maybe you could hear what I'm saying. Maybe that's the problem. Maybe that's what it is. I don't know. Everybody laughed. We had a good key. And then they started listening a little bit better. I think that might have been a moment, you know, where I felt like. That is for sure a moment for somebody. Yeah. I mean, it worked. It worked. That's amazing. Get it my bowl. This is my itch martina's IRL bowl. Let's see what question the universe gives you. We might take a couple. Okay. Our bowl of IRL. What's your guilty pleasure? Oh gosh. I feel like we already know. I don't want to tell you, but I will. What's my guilty pleasure? I happen to love. I'm not proud. I happen to love the drama between blue face and crochet. I'm rock. I love it. I know. I know. I know. Now what is it about this said situation? I know. That does it for you. What does it bring up for you? I think that that that that's a pill. And I think that's a that's a pill. And I think that she got caught up with her. But she has an interesting side too. Because just when you think she's a little little please don't take this the wrong way. When she got a little sheela in her. Oh. She'll say some shit. That'd be so real. And she fight. And she fights. Yep. And so that's probably what keeps you in. It's a guilty pleasure. I just find it fascinating. But I am such. I am that way. Like I like the study of people I don't know. I don't know anybody like this. And I don't know anybody like her. And I'm cool with that. But I find it fascinating that this could even be. And then there's so much to it. And there's so much to it. It's the tattoo. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's the it's a lot. There's so much. Okay. It's not what I expected from your book. I asked. Now what I expected. Would you say guilty pleasure? I feel like I would like you to hit a couple more more more questions if you don't mind. Oh, real? Just because you're so good at it. Oh my God. I feel like maybe we'll do just a round. Like a quick two or three round. If you don't mind. Because here I am out here being honest. We love this. We love it on a chill. This is in real life. But there are not crazy questions, you know? What is one regret you have? I regret. Some things are personal, but this one I regret not taking the the Chicago gig. I got to offer Chicago. The movie? The Broadway show? I got to offer Chicago the movie. And I was on tour. The spin lativa's role. And she did so great. She did. She got to ask her, didn't she? Fucking death. The here you are. And I said, I said no. Because I thought it was the play. And I didn't have the time. I was doing so many things. I was on tour. I was in this country, in this place, in this city. And I, like the first two years of my career. And I had pneumonia like three times. And I was like, I'm not doing a play. And I didn't read. And I didn't know. So I passed. And I would have, I regret that. I do regret that. Even though, you know, I love dating a hardcore. And she killed that. Yeah, she did it. She did the damn thing. You know, but I would have liked to. To do the damn thing. That's a regret. There's so many, so many questions in here. I want to ask for you now. Oh, you're looking. I know. I'm sorry. You're cheating. I just was looking for my favorite one. And she went to me and said, cheating. They're my questions. I could cheat. It's my bowl. Well, it is your bowl. It's my bowl, Jetties. And your show. Bags. I love this. I would ask you this, even if it wasn't in the bowl. This is my two questions for you. Okay. I picked these out of the bowl for you. Okay. When you leave a room, Jill, what do you hope you leave behind? What do I hope I leave behind? Yeah. A vibe. Yeah. No. A vibe. A strong feminine force would be nice. I would also have to care. Like, I'm not in the position to care as much. But that's what I would hope if I did care, you know, respectfully. Honestly, I'm 53. I got stuff going on. Love me or hate me. I've earned this position in life. I've earned this to feel this way, you know, to not really give it to him. Spassal much. You know, so. But if I had to care, I would hope that I'd leave a strong feminine energy in the room that would make other women proud to be women and other men admire women. That'd be nice. As we've had wrapping up this conversation soon, but as I'm thinking about you getting ready to put new music out in the past 10 years and having this conversation with you today. Yeah. Like, what is going to happen? Like, what are we going to experience now? Because I feel like you're in like an almost explosive kind of confidence. I mean, you've always been very confident, but I don't know. I just feel like you're in a very, it is what it is. Amazing place. I mean, yeah. So what I don't know, what do we experience as fans, as receivers of the art? Like, what is what is going to come from the season? You shall see. You shall see. I am very excited about whatever is going on in here. I don't, you know, I can't tame it. And I don't want to. I just want to have the ability to implement it. In full vision. That's what I want. You know, I'm out here. And I haven't been. And there's all kinds of new toys. There's all kinds of stuff to play with. I'm playing with it. Yeah. And then some old things to play with as well. You know, like, like theater. I want to enjoy myself. Ooh, I love that for you. Me too. Are you in love right now, Miss Jill? Okay, next question, then. You're giving me love vibes. That's all I'm saying. I don't know if you are not. I'm just saying you're giving me in love vibes. I already told you anything that's happening. I'm going to keep it to myself. Okay. And enjoy my life, my private existence. And if you decide to get married, that would be private too. You would really? You'd do like a whole private. It's safer that way, right? I think it's, I think it's worth taking the effort to make it private. Yeah. You know, I know a lot of things are going on. This weekend is a two-time divorce day. I still think that marriage is sacred. You know, so I'm learning now that it must be kept in a protective place. If you're going to do it at all. For me anyway, other people that should business do as you will. Yeah. But for me, I think it should be safe. For sure. As much as possible. So, wait, can you, what can you tell us about the said project? Even though you're being very mysterious about the content of it. Said project is called to hone this make concern. I love this already. Yeah, me too. Me too. I recognize that who is for is who it's really, really, really for. And I'm excited for those people that it's really, really, really for. What do you mean? What does that mean? Who is for? Meaning that the intention is to start a personal revolution or to allow a personal revolution for whomever is listening. So, sexually, physically, mentally, spiritually, relationships, thoughts, yep, yep. So, this first round of to hone this make concern is for those people that it will absolutely affect. I cannot, I'm very excited to see who will be affected. I put a lot of time, a lot of time, and energy. I put in, when I say energy, I mean that I hoped and asked for certain musicianship and they showed up in the most wonderful ways. I wanted horns. So, I'm talking to David Banner and David Banner says, call Trombone Shorty. And I was like, Trombone Shorty, like, this is an artist, we have his book in our house. I read it to my kid as he was growing up. So, I end up calling Trombone Shorty and talking to him. The man did 480 tracks for one song. That level of, I'm going to give you everything I got. Was beautiful for me. Oh, I appreciate it so much. And that's kind of the way that the album worked. I did my part. And then I was like, show me what's next. And people showed up. And they did their part. And I was like, that's what it did. You know, for me, like, it was, it's spirit-based project. And I think that's what, I know that's what makes me so excited about it. Not to even put a lot on. I'm not trying to do that. It's to who. Not like that. I'm not going to come over. Honey, sir, if it doesn't concern you, oh, if it doesn't concern you, if it's not your thing, then okay, but for who is four, is absolutely who is four. It will be released February 13th. Yeah! Geek. Wow, that's so. Yes, it is. And does this mean like, just going to be touring? Yeah. It also has to be. You're a touring artist. Yeah, yeah. Definitely touring, definitely videos and visualizers and performances and all the things that go into letting people know that the album is a wholeness, making certain is available. I feel like the world needs a project like that right now. I certainly believe so. Me too. You must be very proud of yourself. I feel proud. You should. I feel proud. In real life, what are you most proud of about yourself? Oh, these are good questions, Angie Martinez. Well, thank you, Jill Scott. Journalist asks, I think at the today, I'll just say as of today, I'm most proud that whatever lemons life gave me, I have managed to enjoy a lemonade smoothie. With a sourdough, a toasted bread, gouda cheese, wago burger, with palm fritz in the south of Spain. That I have managed to make whatever has come my way. So beautiful to me that I wouldn't change it. Whatever. I'm very proud of that. I thought you were just going to say lemonade. I wish a whole it's a whole meal. It's the whole meal. Let me smoothie. And you know, I love the food's references because I do. Food is delicious. I do love the Palabras. I do love the Palabras. You're going to give one thing about you. You're going to give us some Palabras now. I will do my best to give you some Palabras. Oh, the vocabulary in this album is amazing. I really am. It's amazing. What's your favorite word you're using the album? Oh gosh. Too hard. Mmm. I did so many. Somebody helped me. Like favorite word. You're the album. I know it's the word. What's your honor? You looked like you were going to say something. I don't know. I feel like it's going to be like a sexual reference or a or a or a or like a I don't know. It could be a sexual or a word. Or some kind of word. I'm telling you I'm more than one I want to trick. I know. You know, I'm just yeah because the I just happen to love my sexuality. I happen to love great sex for people. I believe you. You want great sex for everyone. I really know because it fortifies you. It fortifies it. It smooths out. It gives you another level of strength. It helps you sleep. It's good for the people. It's good. And you deserve it. Wrote a song about that too. About you. Yes, I did. Of a vocabulary word. If you don't have it, it's okay. I mean, there's so many. There's so many. Just give us one. It doesn't have to be your favorite. A word that stands out the first one that comes. I mean, there's so. Honestly, there's so many. And I've been listening so much. I have to literally go down each song to find out the one or the two or the five. What is in real life? What is one thing you are no longer apologizing for? Myself. Did you ever? Did you ever? Oh, I felt like I needed to. I mean, people. I felt like I needed to. I refuse. I'm not doing that anymore. What am I doing that for? You know, even internally. I didn't, I don't think I necessarily did it publicly. But even internally. Like, fuck that shit. I am all of this woman. I am every bit of it. I am a mother. I am a daughter. I am vulnerable. I am I am aggressive. I am submissive. I am a learner. I am dumb. I am figuring it out as I go. I'm enjoying my ride. I say, we often. I sleep when I can. You know, I put my feet in grass. Like, I hang with really amazing people that love me for real for real. I pay my bills. I go on dope vacations. I do a lot of dope shit on the regular. Because I think that's what suppose to happen. And I enjoy it. I am a woman enjoying my life. And I don't know what else to tell you. Jill Skye has figured out real life. Ladies and gentlemen, listen. Jill Skye is real love. Doing the best I can, baby. Doing the best I can. She has figured it the fuck out. Hmm. Here's the figuring it the fuck out. Here's the figuring the fuck out. Well done, man. Thank you. This is Jill Skye in real life. Hey guys, thanks for watching. Make sure you subscribe, like, comments, and check out all of the other episodes we have on Age Martinez, IRL podcast. This is an I Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.