SC EP:1184 Bigfoot Live Stream

It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind. And it either heard me or smelt me. And he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that that shocked me. They don't make people that that big. The way it moved. Almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything move like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chunting away back and forth, back and forwards, back and forwards. I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw was a bear's. What are you reporting? He's a crazy bear. What's up? See ya! Hello? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot nine. I don't know. Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Hi, I'm Becky. And I'm Mercedes. We're looking for a guy with big feet. Six, eight. Brown eyes. Always hides. We found him on our favorite podcast. Woo! Sasquatch Chronicles! Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. I've got a great show planned for you. We'll be chatting with Logan. And Logan created an app called the Bigfoot Lifestream Project. I've got a great show planned for you. We'll be chatting with Logan. And Logan created an app called the Bigfoot Lifestream Project. I've downloaded the app. I haven't used it yet. And I kind of want him to go into what this app is about. I kind of had a similar idea many years ago, but it never came to fruition. Mainly because of money. It cost a fortune to make these apps. And what Logan is doing is very cool. He's setting up these systems on people's sites where they have encounters. And the app is collecting all this data. You can livestream cameras from different sites. And it's a really cool idea. So we'll be chatting with Logan about his app and kind of his experiences. What kind of brought him into wanting to create this app. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is west at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com. You can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Logan to the show. Logan, thanks for coming on. Yeah, great to be here. Yeah. And I want to get into this Bigfoot Lifestream app that you created kind of for the audience. If they were to download it, what is it? You know, that sort of thing. Before we chat about the app, I know that you've had a few experiences. Tell me about your experiences. When was the first one and kind of walk me into what happened? Sure. So to preface it, you know, I've always been interested in the subject. The topic kind of really got more vamp like right before COVID in that era. I've really getting into the podcast. Documentaries, but I was listening to Coast to Coast one day. And I actually heard Todd standing talking about, you know, his documentary and his site and everything. So I got intrigued by him because I never really heard of him. But I did a lot of deep research on him and, you know, and went down the rabbit hole like everyone does, I think. And, you know, he's got a lot of haters and a lot of, you know, it's 50-50 with Todd. But I kind of really wanted to have a big foot expedition to where it's not just camping out in the woods with some, maybe some BFRO folks. Like I really wanted like a hot zone, high frequency area. So I wanted to see what Todd was about. So I actually went out with Todd and I know, I know you've had a lot of, you know, I actually went out with Todd and I know, I know you've had Craig on, I actually was out there with Craig for one or two expeditions. I know he was on one of your recent podcasts. So really a lot of my experiences that have been out in British Columbia in between the radium hot springs in the Banff area, close to the Kootenai River. Todd has a location out there. I've been all out there. I've actually been out there probably six times. Kind of inspired me to do some extra work. So I do know Todd and a great deal. I'll preface that. I, although I do somewhat work with Todd, I'm not like in like collaborate with him. I'm doing my own project and kind of going over the, all over the U.S. and Canada with it and trying to open it up. But Todd's area is from my experience, a hot zone high frequency area, just for me going out there. So I won't go over the stuff that Craig kind of gone with you on. I'll go over my own experiences that I've had. So I've got to probably have at least, I don't know, somewhere between five and 10 different experiences there. It was 2023 and I was out there in the middle of 2023. And I was on expedition with Todd and this would be my third time out there. And we had a lot of different interactions that time. I was out there with two people from Pennsylvania. They were brothers. They were also on the expedition. And I believe Ashley Todd's companion girlfriend was out there as well at some point. But really the ones that stuck out to me during that expedition was Todd had basically gotten, he had run out of gas in his truck and he had, he had to go to the nearest gas station to get gas so we could go further into the mountains the next day. Because we didn't fill up gas because we went through like a hell storm on the way up there. And we just kind of spaced on it. But so he had left and took his truck to go get gas, which is the clearest gas station is about 60 miles away. So a little counterintuitive, but we need gas to get there and get back. So I was out there with Dan and his brother and we had, there's basically a trail, an old logging trail there that cuts into the Kootenai and then the Kootenai forest. And there's some new growth and old growth that they'd never cut through. And they probably haven't logged there in 70 years, but we were kind of hanging on the edge of that tree line and I was, I actually had a body cam on and was trying to get things sorted. And I started hearing some, some wood knocks in the forest. So I went and got Dan and his brother and said, Hey, let's just go this way. Or waiting on Todd. So we ended up going that way. And as we were going, we would periodically hear a couple of, like I would call them wood knocks. So I would, I would just kind of do my tongue pop like that and do two back and Dan and his brother Matt, they're pretty good at whistling. So they just kind of whistle back and we were following the sound. And this was about three, three 30 in the afternoon. It was kind of hot that day. It was middle of the summer about 80 degrees. So more hotter, 80, 85 degrees. So hotter than usual in the mountains. So we were following the sound and every time we would pop or whistle, we get a response back. So it wasn't like this random tree rubbing in the woods or wind blowing. There was actually no wind that day. It was just taught and kind of a little bit human to be fair, but it, we were following this and it was just freaking like kind of freaking us out because we were having these responses back and forth, and we just kept walking towards it. And we're like, well, what do we do? Well, let's just walk towards it. All right. So we just kept walking towards it and I would sound off. They would sound off and we get bang, bang. And then sometimes it would be bang, bang, bang. Like, so I don't generally hear three knocks. It's usually two, but I was getting two and then every now and then it would be three. So we ended up all get into this cut line where the old growth starts. And then we get kind of in a triangular formation and we're all in different separations and I'm kind of yelling at this point. I'm kind of like, this is kind of unreal because we're getting so much response back. So I'm trying to talk to them, but they're too far away. So I can't even really see them anymore. We're all kind of separated. So I finally get and we're climbing over deadfall all over these trees and I finally get to Matt. And I see he's standing underneath the tree and then Dan gets there and they're looking up and this is a pretty old tree. I mean, I'm not a tree expert, but it's about 100, 120 feet tall and kind of on its own a bit. It doesn't really have any other trees up against it. And it's, you know, really big in diameter. Again, I don't know how to measure it at least two feet, three feet. It was a really big, big tree. So he's looking at it and I'm like, what's going on? He's like, sounds are coming from the top of that tree. And I said, what do you mean? He's like, just sit here and listen. So I'm sitting there and I'm listening and then you just hear pop pop. He's like, I think there's something up that tree. I was like, so about 60 feet up, there's like no branches, no limbs. And then somewhere between 60, 70 feet, probably it starts getting a little bit thicker and it goes up and you can't really see through the foliage. And it's, you know, it's tall. So we're kind of circling this tree looking up and as we're talking, like it would interrupt us and just sound off and do two bangs, right? And we're like, well, I don't understand what this is. So we're trying to hypothesize like, what is this? Is it natural? Like what's going on? I've never heard a tree talk to me before. And I've been out there for a while and I'm sitting down on this down tree and we're talking and it keeps sounding off. And then we start walking around looking for tracks, anything really. And we found one big 15 inch track and then we go 10, 15 feet north of that track and there's some juvenile tracks and they're pretty clear. They're in the moss and they're, you know, I don't, I'm not a tracker. So I couldn't tell you how old they are. They looked somewhat new to me in my opinion, but, you know, it was kind of an interesting area. So we just kind of sit there and it just kept going and going. And so they were going to like a little bit in disbelief. I was kind of hoping to, could be something natural, could be, I don't know, it could be something weird. So they were thinking maybe it's like a tree, whatever they're called, a stump or whatever, whatever the round part of the tree is called. I'm losing my, I'm trying to find it here. And maybe it's like expanding with the heat and popping or something. And it didn't really sound like that, but I was open to it and I was like, well, maybe that's what it is. I don't know. In hindsight, I really wish I had just sat there and waited and saw what happened. So we, we literally sat there for probably about 30, 45 minutes and I have a good fair amount of this on the body cam. And you can hear the trees pop, the tree pops and kind of the whole process of me walking towards it. But those body cams really aren't made for sound, right? They're really more for visual. It's like a police body cam more than anything. And it's, you know, you can hear it, but it's not what it, you know, could be with some real audio equipment. So, I mean, it's, it was really interesting. We needed to walk on away. And as we're walking away, it kind of gave us one last pop and we didn't even hear it again. Right. So we get back to base camp by then Todd is back. He got back with his truck and, you know, we're all kind of interested to see what he would say. And he's like, you know, I've never, ever heard that before. I've been out here for 15 years. I've never had a tree, you know, signal to me that much that frequent, like, you know, it just doesn't happen. And I, you know, and I know he's been out there for a long time and he's got a ton more wilderness experience as far as in British Columbia than I do. So kind of just have to trust what he says. But, you know, we did some side references and tried to find natural occurrences of animals or, you know, tree expansion and stuff. And most of it happens, you know, wintertime more than anything, we couldn't really find a lot of reference to 80 degree weather and trees expanding. So we kind of rolled out some of that and we rolled out some natural animals because they just didn't sound like that. And we kind of just said, well, dang it, maybe, maybe we actually had an interaction and treat, you know, maybe a juvenile or something because there was a juvenile track up this tree and had that interaction. So in hindsight, I really wish I'd stay there longer and kind of just waited and try to document and do a lot more with it. But we kind of, I don't know, we kind of sabotage ourselves a little bit, just being skeptical of what it could be and what it is. But it was a really interesting experience. But if I could go back, I would definitely change what we did and how we kind of interacted at the time. I've never had such a back and forth in between with a tree before, especially like responsive to like mouth pops and whistles and we hit a tree with a rock a few times to try to make a rock knock more than a wood knock. We would constantly get responses back. So it was really interesting as far as that interaction goes. And we had a few more during that seven days I was there. We had apples taken at our gifting location. We had some other experiences where it sounded like something was ahead of us. And the expeditioner, I was with Dan, he kind of later said that he saw something. And he told Todd to get in front of him. I was in the back, but I kind of tried to stay in the back and kind of, I'm always looking over my back because I'm always more or less the person that thinks there's more than one. And when you're looking one way, they're actually behind you or to the left to you. So I'm always looking kind of in different directions when when activities happen. But yeah, Dan kind of pretty much says that he saw something and he was more or less like Todd getting in front of me. You're the expert here. I don't know what I'm doing. It wasn't really my experience. I didn't see it, but he was there. And kind of the icing on top of the cake for that expedition, which kind of got me even more into the subject and more into the science and trying to capture, not have more or less not have just experiences but actually help with the proof of Bigfoot's existence. So I'm kind of, I don't want to say I'm like fearless, but I'm less fearful than most out in the woods. So most people that stay there, like they won't camp outside, like on the ground or anything. There are like bear, there's black bear, grizzly bear, mountain lion, you know, everything that's in the British Columbia area. So there are, you know, deadly things out there, but I'm not as afraid as the wilderness is, you know, the, I guess the same people would be. So I was always looking for places just to go camp outside on the ground and not in a tent and being a sleeping bag. And I found a few places, but you know, in the evening times it would start to drizzle and rain. I just didn't want to wake up all wet and I don't, I don't feel like they're super active when it's raining. So I wasn't able to like get where I wanted to go kind of farther away. But I ended up the second to last day that I was there, ended up sleeping outside by the campfire. And it's probably, I don't know, 30, 40 feet from this trailer shell that Todd has most people stay in at the time. And it's really just a shell. What do you call it a trailer doesn't really have power or anything just to protect you from the elements. But I, I slept outside by the campfire that night, just in a sleeping bag and ended up dozing off here and there about one, one 30 and the guy, one of the brothers Dan, he was out there with me for a good while and he was just whittling on a piece of wood and he had asked me if I, if he cared if, or sorry, if I cared if he was out there and said, no, it's fine, do whatever you want to do. So he was just trying to get his anxiety down from the experiences that he's had out there and he ended up falling asleep in the chair outside and, and I was on the ground. And I had woken up around 330 and looked over and he was head back in a chair and I just kind of chuckled saying, well, whether or not he's falling asleep out here. And I kind of just laid back down. And then around 430, I kind of get woken up and he gets up and he puts a log on the fire and says, all right, sorry, good night. What I didn't know later was he had heard something behind him. And it woke him up and spooked him. And he was like, I'm not saying now here. And he went into the trailer, but he didn't tell me that. You know, matter of fact, later he told me that. So I was like, Oh, thank you for telling me. So it was, it was right after five and I'm not used to kind of mountain West Coast time and how the sun goes down at midnight really and then comes up like at five. I'm used to more of Texas sunlight. So I wake, I wake up around five and I know it later just because looking at my phone. And I kind of open my eyes a little bit and I'm kind of lean towards the fire. And I can just see a little bit of blue in the sky, like a tiny bit like the sun's trying to come up and I'm like, I'm thinking in my head it's like 630. Again, I'm from Texas and the sun doesn't usually come up in the summer until 630. And I'm thinking, okay, well, I stayed out here, nothing happened. I can kind of sleep a little less anxiety with less anxiety and kind of get a few more hours of sleep. So as I'm thinking that in my head, I roll over on my back and I'm still kind of at an angle towards the fire. And as I'm rolling over my back, I put my hands on my chest and I did it kind of in a fast motion. And as I'm doing it, that's exactly what I'm thinking. Nothing's going to happen. I can go to sleep. And then you just hear two feet behind me jump backwards. Like I startled, something was behind me watching me from the back and it jumps backwards and lands on the ground. Right. And I hear two feet land. And I'm thinking, what do I do here? Like this is what I came for. But you know, whatever this is beside me has got the full advantage. I'm on the ground at an angle. It's right. Like literally I could, I could feel its presence and I heard it. It was like a soft jump back like it wasn't like a boom boom or anything. Right. So I'm just thinking, okay, what do I do? Because if I open my eyes fully, I still have to tilt my head that direction to really look in that direction, just because of the angle of the ground. So I just decided to keep my left eye that's closest to the individual clothes. On my right, I kind of fairly cocked open, kind of looking at some of the blue in the sky. And I'm trying to calm my heartbeat down and I'm just thinking through it saying, okay, well, I'm just going to make sure I didn't hear something. I'm not just halfway awake or asleep. So I just let my heart rate slow down a little bit. And then about, I'd say about a minute and a half later, you just hear, you hear two feet bipedal walking next to my head. And I'm just like, heart starts beating out of my chest again. I'm like, okay, this is it. I don't know what to do here. If I look at this thing in the eyes, is it going to freak out and just totally, I don't know. I'm thinking my head, it would just freak out and yell at me or kick me or do something to that manner. Right. Because I'm thinking it thinks I'm just asleep. So I'm just going through scenarios in my head at this point, like, okay, I need the braille bill of the courage to look. And I'm trying to do that. And I can hear it walking around my head still and it's just slowly moving around me. And I'm just like, okay, I've got to just calm down and just, I've got to look. So I've got to do this without startling, you know. So I ended up turning real slowly towards the fire. And then so I didn't startle whatever was by me. And then I cocked my head, I did that. And then I lift my head over my shoulder and look behind me and it was gone. Right. So I didn't capture it in time to actually get a good look at it. I felt its presence. I heard its footsteps right beside my head. I heard a walking beside me. But it was an intense interaction and I kind of left that expedition with that in my mind all the time. Like it's something that until you go through it, you don't really know how to process it. And I know most people listen to this to be like, well, I would have just looked and stood up and, you know, got face to face with whatever. Right. But it's different when you're alone in the forest and everyone's asleep 40 feet away from you. And, you know, I'll just I'll just preface it in that manner. It's it's more intense and you kind of just have to go through it to really feel that level of I call it fear, even though I'm not super fearful. And I've done other stuff since then that are very similar. But, you know, you kind of have to get through that part to have more interaction in my opinion. So it was a really kind of life changing experience for me, even though I didn't have that face to face visual. It was something that brought me to the next level of, OK, they're definitely here. I've seen the footprints. I've seen the tree breaks. I've heard the vocalizations. I've heard the knocks. I've seen them take the Apple offerings. So in my view, there is no way that the area is is not have some kind of high frequency habituation, whatever you want to call it of Sasquatch Bigfoot. So I was I was talking to Todd after that. And I was like, you know, you really should get some cameras out here just in base camp. I mean, they're coming into base camp. They're shaking the trailer. They're actually lifting the trailer off its its blocks and moving it some nights while they're in it. So I'm like, you really should just get some cameras out here and see what we can get. I know people are negative when it says comes to cameras, but to me, it's not really a proven fact. It's just hearsay like, oh, they hate cameras. But I mean, until someone can talk to a big foot and they say, yeah, I hate cameras. I'm just going to keep an open mind about it. So I thought it was kind of all for it. He's like, yeah, do whatever you want to do. Like he was more or less like, if you want to get some cameras out here, let's get some cameras out here. So I told him I'd think through it, figure out the best way to do it. And then I kind of started that whole Bigfoot live stream project from that moment. But I can I can kind of get into the details of that. You're in a minute and I can just tell you maybe one more story. Or I'll tell you two more stories if that works. So the next say the next experience I had out there that was this was recent. This was back in June of this year. So I did end up going back again a few times. And I did have some experience in interaction while I was out there. But the one back in June was more meaningful. I guess you could put it that way. So I went back in June and I was putting some more architecture out there and doing some stuff with solar and batteries and DC and off grid. And I had gotten all that set up. I'd gone out there with Todd's girlfriend, Ashley and another person from from Scotland that was there to have an experience. Real nice guy. So that that night that we got out there, we were pretty tired is about seven. And we we decided, I mean, I decided that I wasn't going to try to do any work at that point. I was trying to enjoy the night and we kind of sat around got firewood, made dinner, set around the fire. And then we went out to the the the gifting area and put three apples out, one for each of us. And we put them relatively high toward, you know, a deer or, you know, any kind of grazing animal couldn't just come up and get it right. We're pretty cognizant of that. And you can really tell when it's a squirrel or a bird or something that's been pecking at an apple. Right. So we put our apples out and put some, I guess you want to call it thought behind it and put energy around it, you know, like kind of a gift to them and kind of set there for a bit. So we went back to the campsite and we were talking and and it was about nine, nine 30. Yeah, about 930 p.m. You just hear, you know, whoop, and then another direction, another whoop, and then another direction, another whoop. So I tried to make the sounds, but I just put your it but it's definitely like a whoop if anyone's ever heard one. Again, there were three different directions and we kind of took that as hey thanks for the apples, three whoops, three apples, right. So as far as interactions at night, that's all we had, but when we went back, they had taken the apples that morning. We got up fairly early and checked it and it was probably only nine hours from when we put them out and they were already taken. There was no, you know, core scan or whatever Apple residue on the ground and we kind of took those whoops is that and if I had actually gotten my system up and running and not been dead tired, I would have at least captured the audio there. And I was only there for about three days because I was just kind of there to enjoy but mostly to do work and set up architecture and infrastructure for the, like, all the cameras and stuff. So the next day I was just working on that and then I was kind of trying to be human bait because I really wanted to be human bait. Ever since I was out there by the campfire. So I set up the cameras in a sense where I was kind of in an open field ish and the guy I was with his name is Ross he's a Scotsman. He's a bold guy so he wanted to sleep out there with me. So I said, okay, well more than a barrier. So I set the camera settings to know I are and it was it was a moonlit night. So I set the iris and the shutter speed and everything else on the these are fairly good cameras so I can fine tune settings to moonlight. So I don't have to have our on. So I figured all that out and I kind of just slept out there and it was like in a moon's blinding and it was pretty cold at night. And I think the only thing we got was like a mouth pop that in that evening. When we are when me and Ross were sleeping outside and they got to like 30 degrees and we were just in a sleeping bag and I woke up with ice on me about 630. And if anyone really wants to see all this I can give you all the footage but I got up and had to warm my body because I was cold. So I took a shot done with me and my phone and and I told I told Ross that I was going to go for a walk. So I ended up walking about half a mile away down a trail and just sitting in a field where we had found a really big track in the tree line there. And I had my back to the wood line and I was just sitting there with intent, you know, like, hey, I'm alone. Come out. I'm ready to have an interaction right just kind of putting in a tent out. I think intent does work to a sense. I don't know everything about my speaker or whatever you want to call it but I think intent does bring them in and here at Curiosity does so I figured with my back to the tree line and kind of a field in front of me maybe they would give them more of an opportunity to just come up behind me and do something right. So I was giving them the edge and I'm sitting there for about 10 minutes. I was going to close this kind of Indian on the ground and I just hear these huge stomps. 20, 20 to 25. Okay, so 20 to 30 feet behind me. And I felt the ground shake. Boom, boom. And I opened my eyes and I didn't know what to do. So I kind of slowly stood up and I remembered I had my shotgun and I was like, well, I don't want to. And I was a lot more calm than the last time. So I didn't really want to grab the shotgun. So I just kind of put it by my side on the ground and stood up. And I was looking in the tree line and all I can see in the tree line is something behind this tree and it's, it's actually gray in color. And I couldn't get a good reference. The sun was just coming. I mean, it was, it was up since, you know, five ish 530, but it wasn't above the mountain line and the trees yet. So in the actual fourth, it's still pretty dark in there. And I'm looking and I just see this gray figure looking at me. And again, it's 30 feet away behind a decent sized tree. And then you just see what I think is an arm and it hits the tree. And then it yells at me and goes, oh, and I don't know how to take that. That means, hey, I'm, I'm here or, you know, I really don't want to take it. So I'm just standing there like, okay, I don't know what to do with this. Some people will run or what I'm just standing there and it's, it's sitting there. And then you just kind of, I kind of slowly disappears and goes behind this tree and I don't hear it. It just goes away. Right. So at that point when the activity kind of slowed down, you know, hindsight 2020, I pull out my phone and just start standing tree line. Right. I wasn't wearing a body cam. I just filmed myself all night and I really wasn't. I didn't really want to dig in the trailer and get all that equipment out and wake everybody up. So I would just scan in the tree line and I'm not seeing much and I noticed there's a tree break, literally right where this individual was. Like it's an old tree break. It's not new, but it is interesting that it was standing right next to this clear tree break behind this tree. So I go in there and I film that area of the forest for a good 10 minutes and listen. And I hear a few, a few knocks kind of from the north side. And, you know, I'm looking around. I can't, I can't really see much. I look for tracks on the ground and you know, I'm skeptical. Right. I don't, I really don't know what it was other than it was this gray tall figure. And I go back and I sit back into the kind of open clearing and I put my back back to the woods and I'm just sitting there again with with thought and process and just sitting there and I'm alone. And I just hear two big bangs to my kind of south, southwest area of me. And it's their large tree knocks like you can tell when, when you hear these and I've heard them a handful of times now and it was too large tree knocks. So it was a different direction all together. So I, I just waited and that was pretty much the only thing that happened other than sound like some rustling when I was walking back in the forest, but that could have just been an animal. But it was, you know, it was the next, the next level for me, right. I have somewhat of a visual. I have individual yelling at me. I have basically the ground. It feels like it's shaking beneath me. I didn't have like an infrasound or anything like that, but I definitely had an interaction with an individual, I think an older individual because of the greatness to it, but and I just walked back to camp and everyone's still asleep and I, you know, I tell Todd and, and kind of the other people that are with me and they were like, Oh, that's awesome. You know, they weren't there. They can't really say much about it. Right. But I know it happened and I know it was real for me. So I just further proves that these whatever people, whatever you want to call them, they are out there. So that's kind of the second kind of experience I've had like a one on one interaction. And then since then I've found a site in Pennsylvania. That's very highly active. And I finally got and I'm fast forwarding a little bit, but I've been trying to get them on board with kind of my project for like, probably eight months. They're pretty apprehensive about their privacy and, you know, they don't want people out there and they already have like a group of researchers that they work with and I'm just trying to add another piece to the pie. So I, there's another, like I said, it's a, it's in Pennsylvania. It's kind of central Pennsylvania and it's on the edge of the Allegheny forest. So they have a ridiculous amount of activity, energy out there and it's, it's been happening for eight or 10 years. And as far as my own experience out there, when I went out there to set up the equipment and run everything and set up the camera systems, they actually put handprints on the, the Spurner van that the guy is with. So they are frequently putting handprints on their windows there. And there's like white sieve them that they leave and it, the handprints are very interesting, the shape of them on the thumb and everything. And the, the, one of the researchers that actually pulls the prints very scientifically as a, you know, a CSI guy would, he's very thoughtful and does all of that. And he's very good at it. His name is, again, I seem to work with a lot of people named Todd, but his name is New York Todd. And that's what I call him. And he's been doing research in that location, I think four or five years. But yeah, we got a handprint on a car and we actually saw an orb that night. So they, like I said, they have a lot of energy, weird activity, I don't know what you want to call it, but I've never had somewhere where they have so much constant like house slaps and like handprints on their house. And vocalizations and so many, so many people there that have gone there to do research have had visual sightings, the property owners, they get visual sightings. I don't know. They seem to be more attracted to the female property owner. I know that makes sense to most of the stories you hear, but she seems to be the kind of the target for a lot of the interaction. But she has seen them numerous, numerous times. But I have a system out there and I've been capturing lately, the XB has really been ramping up and I've been capturing a lot of really good vocalizations with the audio equipment we have out there. Yeah, I know you had sent me some of the audio from that property. This one is labeled, whoops, let's take a listen. I know it kind of crackled a little bit. It's from whoever did your audio trying to remove the background noise. It's interesting. And there are three different instances. Like the first one has five different sounds off. The next one has three and the other one has two or three. So if it sounds like it's all in the same time frame, it's really just cutting and slicing three different instances from three different events. And if you look at the waveform and the audio, the audio, it looks like the same individual because the waveform looks identical on all three as far as the frequency and the range, the actual shape of the form. So it's telling me that's one individual and it sounds more like, and I know that people can't really say this because they don't really know, but it sounds more like a juvenile or maybe a female to me. It's not like huge and dominating. So that's all I can say about it. It's more of a, not science, but gut, guttural sound to it. There are guttural instinct that it's more female or juvenile from my standpoint. But yeah, I'm capturing a lot of activity out of a radium. I'm starting to ramp up and a lot of activity out of Pennsylvania and I'm actually looking for more people and more sites to work with. And I can kind of dive into the project itself. Yeah. Before you go into that, this property out there in Pennsylvania, I know you had mentioned the homeowner had seen it, seen the creatures on many different occasions. Have you seen them out there? I've only been there on setup. We got a decent, I've gotten, let me think, two decent thermals of them. I actually, the system I set up actually has 24-7 thermal going, which I don't think anyone's doing. Because I wanted optical, I wanted thermal, I wanted audio. So I figured out a way to do it. So I haven't seen it. Most researchers out there have. The other guy in New York, Todd, he recently had a sighting when he woke up there, staying there, and gave him a bit of anxiety. But yeah, I haven't personally, but I'm going back out there probably in the next two weeks because I'm actually trying to set up even more infrastructure out there because they're very good at eluding. So we're trying to get like a bird's eye 20, 30 feet up in the air pointing down around the property now of the thermal camera. Yeah, I would like to know how that goes with the whole bird's eye view. And it gets frustrating though. I remember being in the mindset that you're in and I had a million different ideas. And one day I was kind of like, man, how much do I get a bend of her backwards to just get a picture of these things? It's so frustrating. And then you hear about them walk in front of cars in the middle of the road, which is something only dumb animals do like deer or and with these things, it's so hard to. I mean, it sounds like a great area out there in Pennsylvania. I'd love to hear more about it. Kind of going back to the creature that you saw in Canada, the great creature, would you describe it and how far away from you was it? So I walked to that tree where it was. And I mean, I didn't pull out a tape measure, but I'd say it's about 30 feet away from where I was sitting on the ground. It wasn't super far. It was dark. And I like I said, I didn't all I could see was like gray, like it was behind this tree. I could make out gray hair. And it looked like when it hit the tree, I could make out the arm. And it was kind of like a hard slap. So it was really quick. And it was almost like, what did I just see? So I honestly didn't get like a great look at it because again, it was morning time in the darkness in the tree line 30 feet away. And hindsight, I wish I had my body came on. But again, I was filming all night and I just didn't want to wake up people and get stuff out. But yeah, I can't really tell you more than that. I can tell you, as far as like height, it's hard to guesstimate. I could really only see where what I felt like the arm was hitting the tree and it was probably about six, six feet in the air. And whatever it was was taller than that. I mean, that's really all I can give you. It was more of a ground shaking yell more than anything in that experience. Yeah, no, I appreciate it. And that's all I was looking for is, you know, what was it that you saw? And that's all I'm ever looking for. It's definitely interesting. I know that I've talked to people who've gone up with Todd standing and there's definitely a lot of activity in that area where he takes people for the audience. Tell me about the Bigfoot live stream project. What is it? I know it's an app and it's subscription based, but tell me about this app that you created. So there's a lot to it. I'll try to make it high level, but it's it's really I really wanted to bring what I made it was I wanted to bring this experience to people and bring like a community and a collaboration together of the data and sightings and kind of build, build that off and bring it to pretty much people that are interested in Bigfoot and that can't go out into the deep woods or don't have the finances or skeptics. But there's not a lot of data out there. I mean, there's lots of stories and there's lots of podcasts, but it's not like you can go out and look at any kind of data points. So I really wanted and I know the BFRO has some stuff out there, but it's there's a lot of again there's a lot of research teams that keep that stuff close to the chest. And they don't really give everything they have to everyone. So my idea is just to give it to everyone. So I want these live streams to people to be able to go to these high frequency areas and watch them. I built a on demand video section where it actually chunks every two hours. So you could literally watch every stream for the last two weeks into our chunks at any time. So if you really wanted to watch it from three to five a.m. or skim through it or whatever you want to do, like that's available, like you don't have to watch it live. So I literally built a streaming architecture. And which was difficult, I can say that people can collaborate on and you can report citing so it has three different databases allocated to it. So for sightings, reportings, and then I have my own database to where. So I'm slowly ramping this up and doing enhancements, but I'm, I'm one person and I have a lot of plates in the air. So I'm building or I built the pipeline for me that captures all movement, all audio, all heat signatures, certain frequencies, certain amplitudes, and it pumps all that to a database. And then it does time stamping and cross referencing is their moon and a lot of other different fields in there. So I'm trying to build a big foot model, if you want to call it. So I'm just using machine learning and AI and data science to build this model. And once I get enough data and enough, really enough equipment out there to be more subjective. I'm going to release all that model to everyone. And then eventually it'll be every, you can kind of think of it as a ring camera in a sense, but a lot more fine tuned to not not for when the trees move or when the lights come on or when you see a squirrel. It's more in tune to big foot analytics and natural occurrences. So it'll eventually I'll have, I have a kind of a graphical representation of an example of what I'm playing with in the background in the app itself. So time charting with analytics and crafts for frequency amplitude movement. I'm adding heat signatures into it and some other stuff, but eventually when people wake up the next day, they can look at all the movement and the event driven things that we've found. But, you know, it's not perfect. If anyone's ever used a camera system, a new age ones, like a ring camera, it will say something's there when it's not or it'll be a tree that's blowing in the land. So it's really, that's why I really need people to actually look at the footage as well, because I found heat signatures on there that don't register, because they're only like half a second, and they're through a tree. And I found them just by hard work and staying up two hours every night looking at video events on my own and going through it. So it's really if we have a whole community of people watching the live streams looking at the video on demand, and then doing the hit the report button and saying things like we can capture the full spectrum of events, right? And then publish those databases, look for patterns, look for anomalies, look for, you know, does it usually happen in the middle of the month? Does it usually happen on full moon? Does it happen when it's right before a storm? I mean, none of that data is out there. Like so we have to build a model for it. And eventually, the model will be on the front end on an edge computer, to where it's looking for everything in that model, using analytic tools and Python and machine learning tools and PyTorch and stuff like that and vision driven software. So it's really highly technical on the back end. Like I said, it's in like iteration, you can call it two right now and I'm working towards three and four. But, but I'm really trying to get everyone on board with the project and I really want to collaborate with as many people as possible and I want some more high frequency areas and I want to work with other researchers. So I'm open to people helping. I'm hoping to other researchers reaching out to me and doing all that. And I figured out the architecture to where, like the one in radium is there is no power. There's no cell service. Everything works off of Starlink out there. So I had to build that system to work off grid and get the right wattage and work off of DC current, no AC current and build the architecture to where it can be up. You know, nothing's ever 100% reliable. If it storms for three days and it works off of solar energy, there's only so much energy in the battery bank. So it might go down for a few hours here and there. But for the most part it's 24 seven on the off grid front. So really, if people have off grid locations, I can plunk this system out in the middle of nowhere and do recordings and it will go to my cloud services and everyone can view it right. So it's really a whole whole architecture of things that I had to think through and build within the last year and a half. Yeah, I love the idea. I actually had this idea about 10 years ago when I was having my app built. And this is the stuff that I really wanted to have in the app. I didn't have the skill set to build it on my own. And it's very expensive and I'm sure if I had commercials in my show, I would have more access to more funds to build stuff like this because I like to put more into the show than I actually take out. But I love the idea. And I know it's subscription based. I would give a little bit away to someone who's just downloading it as opposed to downloading it. And it's like, well, you got to pay for it if you want to actually see what's in the app. And I'm going to pay for it because I want to see what's in the app. But I love the idea. I really do. I wanted to ask you, I mean, with all this data, what is your trend accomplished? Are you trying to understand their behavior more? What are you going to do with all this data? I mean, I really just want to share it with everyone. Other than that, data collection, proof, science. I mean, if we have video, we have audio and we have data points, you know, that gives a reference to real research in my opinion. So I don't know what people think real research is anymore. Like, I don't know what it would be. I think if enough people look at the data and actually look at it and look at the evidence, you know, they can come to their own conclusions. But, you know, if I can get a real scientific study out of it, I mean, that would be awesome. I really don't know a lot of that college or foundations or research grants and stuff like that. I don't fully know how all that works, but I'd be open to trying to go in that direction. But it's really about proving the existence of these beings and that they're real. So that's what I'm trying to do is really just build that platform for everyone to utilize and use and scrutinize. And if you say this isn't real, you have the full footage for the whole day. You can go through the entire footage, you know, and say it's a guy in a suit. Let's go through the entire day and see if it is, right? Like, you know, you need that amount of data to prove things. Yeah. And if you want to reach out to Logan, you can reach him at contact at bigfootlifestream.org. I love the idea, Logan, and I'm rooting for you. You know, I ask everyone on the show, what do you think Sasquatch is? What's your take? I'll just make it short and sweet. I just think they are some type of people, prominent, whatever you want to call them. And they've been here for a long time. I don't know what abilities they have. I can't say they're extraordinary. I can say they're elusive. But I mean, that's my perspective. I know looking at all the data and all the my own personal experiences and all the people doing the research and all the footprints and the tracks and vocalizations that this is the real deal. So anyone that kind of looks at it and says, yeah, well, there's nobody and this is just a, you know, a big hot mess of nothing. You know, you really have to look at everything before you come to that conclusion. And that's kind of what I was coming at it. I think that's a really good, open-minded approach of, well, let's look at all the data and let's build all the evidence, right? And I know a lot of people are trying to do that. I'm just coming at it from a different angle. Not that I disagree with you, but what makes you think that they're people? I feel like they have a connection to nature and that they are just more in tune with nature and that, you know, they're upright, they're bipedal and they're obviously very intelligent. So I'm not an archaeologist or an anthropologist. I know a lot of people in that field, I can't go into the whole Jeff Meldrum and those guys are really smart at those aspects of it. But I feel like it's just an offset of us, in a sense, or some diversion off the, you know, off our ancestry. But, you know, I could be wrong. There's a lot of openness to that. So until we kind of prove they are real, and then we can kind of go down the next rabbit hole and say, OK, they're real for sure. Now, where'd they come from? What are they? And what are their abilities that they have that we don't? So you kind of have to start at point one and go to the next point. Yeah, that's just my opinion, right? Yeah, I appreciate your feedback. And you could make an argument that they are people. You could make an argument that they're animal. That's what's so fascinating about this subject. You know, Logan, with all the thought that you put into this, and again, I love the idea and I really am rooting for you. I want you to be successful. Why do you think that they're so hard to capture like on video? I mean, you know, if you ask me, would you rather track a cougar or a man? I'll take a man all day long. A man's not hard to track in the woods. Why do you think that they're so hard to catch up with? Well, there is another video that we do have. I did do some soft pushes on it, but we did capture another video of what I think is a juvenile bigfoot. It's not as good as Todd's footage, like the faces. If you know, I think it's real. Other people don't. So to each their own. But it is definitely footage of a juvenile. And I don't know much people getting that. So I think people are capturing it and not knowing it because we actually found that footage after scrubbing old footage. So we didn't even know they were in front of us until we scrubbed the old footage and looked and noticed movement in the foreground or the background. And then we zoom in and, you know, there's this individual completely camouflaged and it moves from center screen to left as we're as we're panning the camera. And it is, in my opinion, it's amazing because I know it's not a person because I was actually out there. And it actually happened to coincide with a lot of other events that precluded to that. And I didn't get into that story, but I can. But we basically had an experience to where we had a howl. And then we had five loops all around us and we go out into the forest and then Todd has, I think he has a video on his channel of like a blob squatch that you film in front of them. But at the same time, we were also filming and this is only, I don't know, 70 yards away from the thermal camera we have out there right now. And we actually captured the other individual to the left of the one that Todd captured and it's, I'll send it to you. You can, you can post it out there too. And I tried to, I have the raw footage and I have the zoomed in version and I've tried to put Skeletal movement with some scripting on top of it. But it's, it's behind these trees. So it's hard to get a good frame of reference for the Skeletal software, but it's, it's definitely hairy legs moving because he torso see the top of the head, and then there's foliage in front of it. And it's, it's definitely 100% genuine and real. So my opinion is they're out there, but they're just very, very good at what they do. And they're very much in tune with nature and can really know when to move and when not. Yeah, feel send me the video. I'll post it up on Sasquatch Chronicles.com underneath this episode. And if you want to check out Logan's app, the Bigfoot live stream project on your phone, go to your app store, look up Bigfoot live stream project and you can get the app and check out what he's doing. Logan, I wish you the best brother and thank you so much for taking the time to come on. Yeah, it was great. Great talking to you, Wes. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. 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Our masquerade, the memories of you dear. Memories of you dear. Memories of you dear. Memories of you dear. Memories of you dear. Say that you're still here with me. You're smiling with me. Because I found a kid to love me. I hope you're dying in the moon. And I'll make you stay in the moon. And we'll slip away in the moon. Say that you're still here with me. And you're smiling with me. Because I found a kid to love me. You are the guest in the moon. And I'll make you stay in the moon. And we'll slip away in the moon. And we'll slip away in the moon. Thanks for watching!