Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Skattebo's CTE joke , Malik Willis ready to thrive in Miami, Abdul Carter Changes Numbers
38 min
•Mar 23, 202625 days agoSummary
Hosts Deebo Samuel and Joe Thomas discuss NFL player jersey number changes, Malik Willis's humble approach to his new role with the Miami Dolphins, Justin Fields' trajectory across multiple teams, and Saquon Barkley's controversial CTE comments and subsequent apology.
Insights
- Humility and avoiding self-imposed pressure is a strategic advantage for young quarterbacks entering new situations, as demonstrated by Malik Willis's media approach
- CTE is a documented health crisis affecting 92% of studied former NFL players, requiring serious treatment rather than dismissal as an excuse
- Jersey number selection reflects player mentality—requesting retired numbers signals overconfidence, while earning your own legacy demonstrates maturity and respect
- Quarterback mobility across teams (Justin Fields' fourth team) indicates systemic issues with player development or organizational fit rather than individual capability
- Long-term memory loss among former players is a widespread, acknowledged consequence of NFL careers that warrants proactive cognitive health management
Trends
Rising awareness and discussion of CTE in professional sports culture, moving from denial to acceptanceQuarterback market instability with high-profile players cycling through multiple teams in short timeframesYounger players adopting media training and humility as competitive advantages in franchise quarterback evaluationIncreased focus on cognitive health and neurotropic supplementation among former and current NFL playersJersey number rule changes allowing single-digit assignments across more positions, shifting player preferencesFranchise quarterback evaluation shifting from individual statistics to team fit and organizational support systemsPublic apologies and PR corrections becoming standard protocol for athlete missteps in social media era
Topics
NFL Jersey Number Selection and Legacy BuildingMalik Willis Miami Dolphins Quarterback TransitionJustin Fields Multi-Team Career TrajectoryCTE Awareness and Health in Professional FootballCognitive Health and Memory Loss in Former PlayersQuarterback Media Training and Humility StrategyNew York Giants Defensive End Number ChangesKansas City Chiefs Quarterback Depth ChartNFL Salary Cap Management and Dead MoneyRookie Quarterback Pressure and ExpectationsAFC North Competitive DynamicsPittsburgh Steelers Salary Cap DecisionsMental Health and Retirement Adjustment in NFLNeurotropic Supplementation for Brain HealthNFL Draft Pick Evaluation and Team Building
Companies
Miami Dolphins
Malik Willis signed as new starting quarterback, discussed as potential franchise QB with significant roster gaps
Kansas City Chiefs
Justin Fields joined as backup/potential starter with Andy Reid coaching, discussed as opportunity to prove capability
New York Giants
Abdul Carter changed jersey number from requested 56 to 3 after Lawrence Taylor declined to retire number
Pittsburgh Steelers
Chris Boswell discussed regarding contract status and compensation as kicker entering final contract year
Cleveland Browns
Referenced as Joe Thomas's former team, discussed regarding competitive mentality despite poor records
New York Jets
Justin Fields played for Jets in 2024, discussed regarding $48M cap space loss and quarterback transition
Chicago Bears
Justin Fields played for Bears in 2023, discussed regarding offensive complexity and quarterback development
Boston University CTE Center
Conducted 2023 study finding 92% of 376 former NFL players had some form of CTE
People
Deebo Samuel
Co-host discussing NFL player experiences, jersey numbers, and health concerns from playing career
Joe Thomas
Co-host providing analysis on quarterback transitions, team dynamics, and cognitive health in NFL
Malik Willis
New Dolphins starting QB discussed for humble media approach and readiness to lead franchise
Justin Fields
Discussed as fourth-team starting QB, analyzed regarding career trajectory and decision-making ability
Abdul Carter
Changed jersey number from requested 56 to 3, discussed regarding rookie mentality and legacy building
Lawrence Taylor
Declined to retire number 56 for Abdul Carter, referenced as legendary player setting standard
Saquon Barkley
Made controversial CTE denial comments on podcast, issued PR apology regarding health misinformation
Chris Boswell
Discussed regarding contract status and compensation as veteran player entering final contract year
Patrick Mahomes
Referenced as franchise QB whose team Justin Fields joined as backup/potential starter
Andy Reid
Discussed as elite offensive coordinator/coach providing opportunity for Justin Fields development
Charlie Batch
Referenced for superior memory recall of playing career details compared to Deebo Samuel
Coach LaBow
Praised for exceptional memory and ability to recall detailed playing history from decades ago
Sean McVay
Referenced for reputation of having exceptional memory for plays and game details
Quotes
"When pride comes, then comes disgrace. But with humility comes wisdom. God opposes the proud, but shows favor to the humble."
Joe Thomas•Malik Willis discussion
"I'm not sure. We only know until, you know, so I'm grateful for the opportunity now. That's all I can say. I can't say whether I was ready or not."
Malik Willis•Dolphins QB readiness question
"You can't be giving a single digit to the dude that second string. You got to kind of chill a little bit. You're already first-round pick. We already know you need to come out here and snap."
Deebo Samuel•Jersey number discussion
"Recently I did an interview and had a lapse in judgment which resulted in me making a tasteless joke about CTE and asthma. It was never my intention to downplay the seriousness of head injuries."
Saquon Barkley•CTE apology
"They found that 345 of them had some form of CTE. That's 92% of the players they found from a Boston University CTE center study."
Joe Thomas•CTE statistics discussion
Full Transcript
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March Madness is here, and if you're trying to keep up with everything happening on and off the court, we've got you covered on the podcast Flagrant and Funny. Do you want to start with the first question for the Big Ten Coach of the Year? Oh, whatever. Would you like to? Yeah, she doesn't. So you're a Spartan, is that what I'm getting? Exactly. On Flagrant and Funny, we're giving our unfiltered takes on the biggest moments, the conversations everyone's having. So whether your bracket is busted or you just want the latest on the tournament, we got you. Listen to Flagrant and Funny with Carrie Champion and Jamel Hill on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd was accused of fathering twins, but the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax. You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Owens, correct? I doctored the test once. 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You know, he had some issues last year. I guess he got benched twice for some disciplinary reasons, missing all that. I don't got a problem with people switching numbers I don't have a problem with my thing is when you come in though I'm not asking nobody for no retired number that's out there already you know what I'm saying like it's retired for a reason that man went and did that like he's greatest of all time he's greatest so you go get your like you want to go set that legacy get a number like right on he got 56 try to get like 55 or you want to step up 157, something in memory. Be like, I'm going to make mine, mine. The way Lawrence Taylor made him, him. Like I just, my thought, if I'm coming in, I just got too much respect. And you got to start your own. Like you are you, you are you. You coming in as a rookie, come set your own legacy, set your own trajectory. You're trying to get on the field, see what the NFL is talking about. Get your feet wet. You know what I'm saying? Like understanding the game. I feel like that's just putting unneeded pressure on yourself also. You're already first-round pick. You already got the target on you. Now I'm trying to go get Lawrence Taylor's job, like letting him know. I'm here. It's me. I'm like this. No. You got to kind of chill a little bit. For me. For me. My mindset is coming in here, I got to come figure it out myself, get my legacy going, get my feet wet, stand on my own tent. You know what I'm saying? like that's just additional pressure is just, I feel, I feel like it's just, you didn't need it. It's unwarranted. And then that's good. Just make people look at you. Like you already a first round pick. We already know you need to come out here and snap. And now you saying you're going to come take LT's number out of retirement. Oh my goodness. Like you, like, I mean, it just, it's just, you can't kind of be that good off rip. You can't, you know what I'm saying? You kind of out kicked your coverage, trying to get some, you putting something on your back. That's like, my, they're not like, no, I know. You just don't do it. I just wouldn't do it. The extra pressure, ah, it's tough. Yeah, I don't care about the switching of numbers, dude. You know, I don't really care. It is what it is. Some guys like certain numbers. They feel like, you know, they like it better. They play better. You know, whatever it may be. Joe, I didn't have that luxury, Joe. I was 42, 46, I believe 41, 93. And finally, 92, after Jason Gilden left. And I didn't pick none of those numbers. You didn't pick none of those numbers? All those numbers was given to me, okay? Dang, Debo. I'm requesting a number. Joe, I was cut. Debo. Bro, I was cut up, like, so much, brother. I could have bled to death from pay cuts. Like, they was cutting me so much, bro. They was just throwing my man a jersey. It's crazy. They were dicing me. Listen, bro, I'm in the 40s. you know I ain't have a chance. Nigga, flap that. Here you go. Take that one. What we got available? Here. What we got available? Put this on. Yep. Put this on. Here. Put that on. What? Nope. Somebody else got that now? Hey. Put this on. You know what I'm saying? That nine-two stuck, though, D-Bo. Nine-two stuck. It hit. It hit. Man. I ain't going to lie, but I came in that. But look, when I first got to Cleveland, they gave me number five for training camp, and then I had to put on 40. They gave me 40 because I had to try to get a 20 number. All of them was gone. So then I had to go ahead and buy the number. So I had to get number 23. Yes. Damn, Joe. This is how crazy that is to me, Joe. You was in the 40s. I had number 4-0 for the first day. That's a first round draft choice. That's crazy, Joe. No, no, no. It was only for a day. It was only for a day. You know? It was only for a day because you paid money because you... Big money grip. OGs. What I was going to take, everybody here was the older, you know. No, this is, no. Big money grip. I got to come in that job. What you need? Hey, what you need, old man? Give me that number. What you need, OG? What you need? My man, Peyton Hillis. And he came through total rock. Who'd you pay for that? I had to end up, I paid. Eric, I think I might have paid E. Wright. And then. How much? It was 20 bands. Woo! 20 bands back then. Oh, Lord. 20 bands. In 2010, 20 bands in 2010. What are you doing with 20 right now? 20 bands in 2010. 20 bands in 2010. But I got that 2-3. And then my man Peyton Hillis, they had to do a whole little working around who got the jerseys. And then Peyton Hillis ended up doing number 40. And then he goes, well, cover a Madden with that joint. You know the running back from the Browns. That was totally... Between the 40s, that's crazy, brother. That's crazy, Joe. That's crazy, Joe. You, man, listen, 47, 48, 93. Then I ended up, when you see me in that game, that rookie card, 23. Okay? Know that. That really wasn't your rookie number, though. And then look, they lucky because when we went to the league, you couldn't go single digit until probably a couple years ago. Ooh, would have went five on them, two. I wanted to go five on them. Gave it a five at the corner. Ramsey looking sweet, holding it down. But I wanted that. I just want to have one NFL jersey, single digit, number five, hating on it, looking sweet. Bro, I'd have been wearing that 16. I ain't going to lie, man. 16 was like my high school and college number. I would have been wearing that 16. I ain't going to lie to you about it. I ended up switching to a single digit number my senior year in high school. I switched to a three. Man, I suspended three games. I was like, yep, nope. When you were younger, Debo, when we played Little League, You play Little League, boy, single digits was the most fire players on the team. You had to be a single digit. If you was number one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, you were fire. So me and my brother, we would walk into the game. We would be looking. You see the single digits on the other team? We was the single digits on our team. We knew who was guarding each other. We knew who was going to be the quarterback, the receivers. Like the best dudes on the team normally had a single digits. So that's why we was always trying to rock. One or five or seven. Because when I started younger, boy, I was the quarterback. Michael Vick, seven. Yes. Yeah, them single digits, that's supposed to be your higher tier players. You know what I'm saying? You can't be giving a single digit to the dude that second string. You can't be doing that. You know what I'm saying? Brother. You got some people that do it, though. It depends on who it is. I got lied to. I got lied to coming out of high school. Florida, they told me I was going to be a single digit my rookie year, freshman year. You going to be a single digit? Yeah. got there 12. God! It was super close. Super close. Almost. Yeah, after my freshman year. Almost. He was only three digits away. Three digits away. Freshman year, I started, and then my bubble Caldwell ended up getting drafted. I said, Coach Meyer, I'm freshman All-American. Give me that five. I need that five. He said, yes, sir, Joe. You get that single G. Boom. No question. Ah, thank you. Sophomore year, I'm not taking this off. I would wear that little practice jersey around. Yeah! Y'all see me in this five. Yeah. Dude, man. Hey Joe, what that face look like when they hand you that 40? Show me the face you made when they hand you that 40, Joe. I didn't even laugh. I tried to miss it. I was like, who that 40 is? That's not mine. I know that's not my jersey. I was like, Joe, for sure we going behind me. I know. Hold on. I was like, oh no. That's my job? Hold on. Had Hayden on the back looking crazy. Big old 40. I said, nah. But then my man TJ Ward ended up rocking the 43, and he looked sweet. Like, I'm like, hold on, TJ, you safety. You look sweet. I said, no, but I'm corner. This don't big as heck. This whole, this four, zero. You don't even look like you got no size in it. Bro, I need to have the four or the zero. Not both of them. Can't give me both of them. Can't give me both. Yeah. Oh, man. The Dolphins' new quarterback, Malik Willis, rather he felt like he was ready to be a starting quarterback a year or two ago. We got the sound for that. Listen to this. Did you feel like you were ready for this a year ago or two years ago or you needed the past couple years to get to this point? I'm not sure. We only know until, you know, so I'm grateful for the opportunity now. That's all I can say. I can't say whether I was ready or not. I can't prove that, you know what I mean? That would be just me being arrogant or prideful, you know? But the opportunity's here now, and I'm going to try to do my best to take advantage of it. How you feel about that response? You like that response? You don't like that? How you like it, Joe? Man, the dude's super-duper humble. I'm just getting dumb, humble vibes. I'm getting crazy humble vibes. Like, he's super-duper humble. Yes, sir. I think that I like the way he's just, you know, hindsight is 20. He just doesn't want to start saying stuff. He doesn't want to put his foot. He doesn't want to go try to take somebody's retired number. You know what I'm saying? He's basically going in here like this. Look, guys, ready for the opportunity. I can't say what I could have been back in the day. If it's the fifth, we all be drunk. I'm here right now, signed to the Miami Dolphins, and I'm ready to go. I'm in this position. I ready to go forward Like let get it All that like backwards like stuff that don really make sense Like that question what do you mean do you think I was ready I could whatever but that back in the day I'm here right now with the Miami Dolphins, signed, ready to go. And he's not saying, not trying to put any high expectations on himself. I think that it's just, he's ready to go. He knows what is expected of him. And this is just a guy that's like, I'm not about to have y'all put any, like, anything extra. No, that would be me just trying to say something. I'm just going to keep it quiet, keep it humble, where now, oh, man, like, I'm just get you guys on my side. Like, just that's how you start off with the media. I think he's really good media trained and he's just being a smart dude. I'm just really not going to set the expectations too high. I'm coming out here. March Madness is here. 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It said, when pride comes, then comes disgrace. But with humility, humility comes wisdom, Joe. And when you look at James 4, 6, I like James, okay? And 1 Peter 5, 5. Both of them say, God opposes the proud, but shows favor to the humble. This is a humble man. This is a wise man, Joe. This is a man with humility. He understands he's not going to let his arrogance and prideful way get in the way of a response. Like, hey, that would be arrogance and prideful. I love it, Joe. I love it. I like his mentality. You know, especially for him being the next quarterback of the, you know, Miami Dolphins. Hopefully he can turn into that franchise quarterback that they're looking for. And the only thing that's going to determine that is the status of how he plays, how well he does it. Do you think they found their franchise quarterback? Yeah, I mean, time will tell. Like you said, time will tell. He only plays seven games. If he stays consistent, we'll see. How good is his line going to be? Is he going to be protected? I don't know. So Miami, they got a whole situation they got to figure out. So I like the offensive coordinators. We'll see if they put them in positions to win, if the running game is good. Like, it's going to be a lot of moving parts of Miami. Miami just isn't a, right now, we just need one piece and we're going to be amazing. I think they have a lot of holes on their team. So, it's going to be a building process. But I think. He can still be a franchise quarterback. I mean. He can still be. He's a franchise quarterback. They got a lot of pieces missing over there. Yes, yes. They got a lot of pieces missing over there, Joe. But we only got one missing, Joe. Joe? Joe Burrow. We only got one missing, Joe. one Joe I can't help it Joe you know something I don't know nothing I'm just trying to speak it into existence Joe all I know is what I want you know if two come in agreeance you in agreeance with me I am in agreeance okay then it shall be done it shall be done the Lord the Lord said that D, you funny. I'm just, hey, Joe. I'm with you. I'm just saying, Joe. I just talk when I talk. Let's go on over here to another quarterback that's been to a lot of places. Justin Fields could become the first quarterback to play for four different teams and start week one with a different team. 23, he was with the Bears. 24, he was with the Steelers. 25, the Jets. And this year, if Mahomes isn't back in time, 26 can be the starting fourth year for him with the Kansas City Chiefs. Joe, this is not a good stat I want to be a part of. I don't know. Lord, hell, whoa. Yo, I guess the Jets end up losing $48 million in cap space by letting him go when you add in Aaron Rodgers' dead money. so this year they had a hundred and four million dollars of dead money which is third only of course to miami and arizona tua and murray killed them boys yeah and then you know what they did they went in on head got old geno smith who's looking like he gonna be the starting quarterback at 3.3. Fields go to Kansas City and get 8 million. Damn. Ooh, but it looked like, bro, oh my, this is real? Is that real? 2027. It's looking like they will have 150 million plus in cap space plus three first round picks. Bro. 2027. 150. Three first-round picks? Bro, that can make some moves. Don't go and think. Don't do. Woo! Three first rounds? I ain't going to say nothing because I don't want them to. I ain't going to say it. Joe, how do you feel about Justin Fields being into his fourth team? What do you think the trajectory of his career would be? Right now, I mean, I'm not. I love Justin Fields. Great dude. Great person. Joe about to say something negative. That's why he goes with the positive. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. This is what I'm saying. He's going to say something that he don't really want to say, but he's just going to say it. Go ahead. Yeah. It's because this is the fourth team that you're going to be playing on as a starting quarterback. You want to be a starting quarterback. This is the perfect opportunity for you to do it. You're in Kansas City. You know you're not going to be there. You're here for a good time, not a long time. Patrick Mahomes, that's his team in Kansas City. So you want to just be able to go there, show that you're a competent starting quarterback where, you know what I'm saying? It's good. They already have, they have the team. They have Andy Reid. They're the Kansas City Chiefs. If you can come in there and just make it look, make it look good. Make it look reasonable. Make it just not, don't lose the game. You don't have to go out there and be Patrick Mahomes because you're not Patrick Mahomes, but you can go out there and be sustainable. When it's run game, you got a new running back, making sure that they keep it ahead of the sticks. Use your legs when you need to. Hit the passes when you need to. We're not asking you to do nothing crazy, but just show that it's not your fault. You know what I'm saying? When you were in Chicago, when you were with the Steelers, the offense just – you were looking pretty good with the Steelers. It wasn't bad. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't my fault. It wasn't bad. Jets, I don't know. Hey, I'm going to tell you something. Like in 2023, when he was with the Bears, and then we ended up picking him up. I thought the move was a little questionable. The reason I thought the move was a little questionable is because in 2023, when he was with the Bears, he made a statement that he's – they're making him think too much. He just want to go out there and play. That statement right there told me that he doesn't want to read defense or he can't read the defense. And that was something that I was like, I didn't like. And it gave me pause of like, yo, is it a mind thing? Is it a knowledge thing? Because he has the skills to be able to play the position, plus, you know, add a little something else to it, which, you know, which is his legs. But when he made that statement and just threw it off to like, yo, they're making me think too much. No, you just told me and told yourself that maybe the game is too hard for you to acquire. Maybe, but you're thinking it might be above the neck. When you say, I can see both ways. Maybe the way that they were presenting the message, there could be bad coaching. Like, you guys are telling me, I don't know what you guys are really teaching me. So I'm just looking at it now. You went to the Jets. So you went from the Bears to the Steelers. And then from the Steelers to the Jets. And we had the same outcomes. I'm saying now he has his last. That's what I was saying. What I was saying. You got Kansas City with Andy Reid in that offense. So now I'm just looking like, if you don't do it now, it's not going to go. Where else are we going to go? You went to, you did, you've done it. You've done your job. You show now that I think it may be backup quarterback. You know what I saying Like if you think he going to be able to take a team to new levels I don think so If he not going to be able to like you said you only as good as you what have you done for me lately Yeah. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because the Bears ended up changing quarterbacks before they got Caleb, right? I mean, changing coaches, right? Yeah. Okay. And then we changed, and the Jets are the Jets. So, I mean, it's a possibility. I'll give him something on that. I'll give you something on that. I'll give you some leeway on that, I guess. Got to. I mean, you don't got to, but we'll see. Yeah, yeah, we'll see for sure. We'll see. 2020? Scatterboo trigger, man. Oh, my goodness. He was asked by a host of a show, I guess, Bring the Juice podcast, if he thinks CTE is real. He said no, and it's an excuse. wow Scatterboo then we'll present it with the premise that asthma is an excuse Scatterboo agreed no that's a good take he said yes asthma is fake too you're soft he later issued this apology right here he said recently I did an interview and had a lapse in judgment which resulted in me making a tasteless joke about CTE and asthma. It was never my intention to downplay the seriousness of head injuries or asthma. I sincerely apologize to anyone who was offended by my remarks, and I assure you that I'll be more mindful and respectful going forward. Much love. Yeah. Joe, I thought it was a joke when I first saw it, but I know good and well he didn't write that. Who wrote that? PR. Okay, I'm just checking, because I ain't going to lie. I was listening to it and I'm like, this got to be like satire or something, right? This can't be real. Like, or his CTE, like, kicked in. Like, I mean, mine kick in sometime too, you know? You know, and I got to sit there and I got to think. I'm like, yo, is that me? Or is that like arrogance and pride like dude was saying, you know? And I'm sitting there and I'm thinking like, uh-huh, you know what? I told you I like James, man. I got to go back to James. And it sends me back to James. And I'm like, yo, James. This is the book of James. Quick to listen, slow to speak. So I slow myself down. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I'm just glad. I'm just glad he backed off. He came back and apologized. And like, it's not, dude, it's not a joke. You know, somebody got to him, obviously, and he got a, you know, he got a realization and understanding. I mean, if you go back, I think they did a study in, what, 2023, where they did 376 former players. They found that 345 of them had some form of CTE. That's 92% of the players they found from a Boston University CTE center study. They found that, you know, a lot of guys had some form of it. Joe, do you you worry about CTE? You worry about if you got a little bit? I don't think I I'm kind of There it is. There it is. There's a CTE. It kicked in. There it is. I mean, it gotta be. It gotta be. I think my memory, my long-term memory for sure is shot. I know that for sure. I don't know. My long-term memory Sometimes it's real spotty. My people, they got to tell me when we did some vacations or whatever. I'm like, I done did. But I'm like, is it because I done did so much stuff? You done did so many, Joe. Having a good time, like just blessed. But like when my friends would remind me of things that we done, I'm like, okay. I just need a refresher and then I can remember. You remember the time you got stuck in Mexico? I remember that. Okay, I'm just checking. I'm just checking. You good? That's more short term. That's more short term. That's more short term. But yeah, I think that people for sure, CTE is a real thing. People getting hit upside the head, dead serious. Deebo is honestly real, for sure. And some people have it more than others. It might spike. I don't know too much about how people react and just moves and just feeling in certain type of ways. And it has to be a lot of stuff too with just going to retiring and then not playing. And then just a lot of things, mental health. keep your brain active. A lot of stuff, bro. Yeah. I still do a lot of what I, I guess I would call like brain health type stuff, healing, cognitive repair. Like it's just all, all kinds of stuff like that. And a lot of, I also take like a neurotropics, you know, and that stuff that just helps, you know, your brain function, memory, mental energy, learning, attention, all that other stuff you know i did a lot of that while i played too so yeah and i still you know i still do a great majority of it now especially you know with all the reports coming out of you know the cte and what levels it is all that other stuff so um yeah this is something that is 100 real you know i gotta I got to make sure I'm 100%, you know, aware and in play, especially, you know, with my kids, you know, because I can't tell, you know, sometimes I got to look back. I ain't going to lie, Joe. My long-term memory is trash, too. Oh, for sure. I don't know why, but it's been trash. Bruh, they was asking me some questions about something at the Super Bowl. NFL Films was asking me questions about like something about like playing like whatever it was, the game against, I want to say it was Green Bay. I'm like, dude, I couldn't tell you nothing about like the Super Bowl, like 2011 Green Bay. I'm like, bro, I don't know. I don't know what. And actually, Charlie Batch was there. And Charlie's like, oh, yeah, this happened, that happened. And they're like, well, do you remember anything about, you know, sacks on Aaron Rodgers? I'm like, I don't even think I heard sacking him. Charlie's like, yeah, you did. You got a safety on him at home. I'm like, dude, when? I'm like, when? Like, and I'm on camera, buddy. March Madness is here. And if you're trying to keep up with everything happening on and off the court, we've got you covered on the podcast, Flagrant and Funny. You look at the top four number one seeds. What do you think UCLA is going to do? Break down that for me, my friend. I do think UCLA has a really good chance of getting back to the final four. Obviously, UConn is the overwhelming favorite in this tournament. But I'll be honest, I think people are kind of sleeping on Texas. 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Think about how many skills they have to develop at such a young age. What can we learn from all of the new F1 romance novels suddenly popping up every year? He still smelled of podium champagne and expensive friction. And how did a 2023 event called Wagageddon change the paddock forever? That day is just seared into my memory. I'm culture writer and F1 expert Lily Herman, and these are just a few of the questions I'm tackling on No Grip, a Formula One culture podcast that dives into the underexplored pockets of the sport. In each episode, a different guest and I will go deeper into the wacky mishaps, scandals, and sagas, both on the track and far away from it, that have made F1 a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Talking to me, and I'm like, when did that? He's dead serious, though. He's like, Charlie just reciting and saying, I'm like, I don't even remember this, dude. I'm like, yo, y'all put Charlie up here. Like, put him up here. You ask him the questions. He got the. He got the, he got the, he got the, he got the memory. Right. He got the memory, man. Like super brand. You know, who was actually like super, super, super, super good at that. like memory he can take you back to like his playing days and sitting in a room with just whatever it may be talking to a guy yeah who's labo see coach labo's mental capacity dude like crazy like this man played back in the day when hammer was like is the greatest I have ever heard or seen in life, dude. Like, it's wild. Like, how well he remembers things. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Because I seen, like, the one I used to coach, coach, Sean McVay, he used to be, I know that man probably got a crazy memory. I know he was reciting plays and stuff all the time. Like, dude, like, Coach LeBow down there, how old is he now? Almost, almost, mid-80s, he's still doing it. Still doing it. Bro, I call him right now. He'll be like, hey, Jay, you remember the time? I'm like, damn, I don't remember. Oh, yeah, I think I, you know, I got to, I don't remember. I don't remember. You know, I be saying that too. Hey, Jay, you remember? I be like, yeah, yeah, I remember. Yeah, I remember. I don't remember. And then especially when it's something that's like, like old me, you know what I'm saying? Like the dude, they wasn't saved. I'll be like, I did that for real? You sure? You tried to actually eliminate that memory yourself. Bruh. Yes, bruh. Then you know, you add, you might be out there partying, you know, a couple drinks on top of it. You're like, man, I don't know if I did that. I might have. I don't know. Bruh. Debo. We got in the chat. What we got in the chat? Super chat. Let's check it out. Take off. All right. Steelers need... Who we got Liam Liam 98 Appreciate you Thank you Thank you Stillers need to pay Chris Boswell Yes. Pay the man. Pay the man. That's bankroll bars. Pay the man. So I call him bankroll. Every time I'm out. Hey, didn't they cut my man's pay at one point about a year or two ago? I don't know if they cut bankroll bars. Hey, chat. Didn't they cut my man's pay about a year or two. Let me know, man. Let me know. I believe they did. I believe they did. Covered it. I believe they did. Is he on this last year or do he got two years left? Oh, bankroll? Yeah. I think he got a year left. Let me see. Man. Bankroll boss, but this is what I'm saying. He can't go anywhere, though. We need boss. Oh, no question. Bankroll boss, four years as of, oh, man, 2022. He signed a four-year, 20, and I think he's going to be, okay, we got him this year. He's still under contract. This is going to be his last year. Okay. In 2027, he'll be unrestricted free agent. So we got to give him a little something this offseason. A little two-year extension. Two. Brother. Back to the Super Chat. They go read him up, man. They get him right. But I really believe they gave him a little bit of a pay cut, like, a while ago, man. I'm trying to tell you. I'm trying to tell you. I believe so. I don't know. I could be wrong. I don't remember the bankroll bars. Hey, like I said, man, my long-term memory, trash. That's what I'm saying. You just be making stuff up sometimes. I don't know. I feel like, bro, I really feel like they had my man take a little cut or something. Man, I swear I feel like that, dude. Like, I don't know, man. I don't know, man. I could be wrong, man. Covenant Life. Seven. Oh, wait, that's Covenant Life. That's Covenant Life. $10, Covenant Life. Joe. Just talking about Burrow. I'm a chorus. Joe and the AFC North. The Steelers are the greatest. Joe? No, she's talking to you, Joe. You run that, Joe. Oh, okay. Joe and the AFC North, the Steelers are the greatest. I'm not trying to be funny, but playing for the Browns, did you ever see, did you ever say, damn, like Miles Garrett when being the worst team, like the Falcons? Okay. Cover the life. I would always think Cover the life That we was going to win I never went into a season Being like oh no We got a terrible team We always thought We was going to be able to win Until We were mathematically Eliminated And then that's when You would be like Damn We still want to go out here And hoop Damn bro Y'all like three and eight And you think y'all got a chance Bro We could win Yes because we're not getting smacked. We weren't just going out there getting whooped. We would lose by two, lose by three, flukishly lose. Like we could win. I'm like, why can't it just, the ball need to fall our way one time. It's not like you're just going out there getting blowed out. So yes, I did feel like we could win until we were mathematically eliminated. Then people got to looking crazy and I'm like this, oh man, this is not what it's supposed to be. Okay? Is that good? Okay, Joe, whatever you say, man. Look here, man. Covenant Light back again, $2. 43. Troy Palamalu. Best to wear the 40s. Yep. See? You could have wore a 40 and been okay with it, bro. No, that's a safety. There's no corner that's the country that's wearing number 40. If you're a safety, then you could wear number 40 and look sweet, like Troy Palamalu. like TJ Ward. But if you're a 40 at corner, you look like they're going to be throwing the ball at you a lot and going at your neck. Because they're like, oh, buddy got 40 in the corner. They must have just threw that to him. Like they gave Debo that 47. They gave me 42, 46, maybe even 48. 93. Okay. Okay. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. It was never. It was never 47. Never 47. Okay. I just tried to get you to that. I just tried to get you to that. That's just nasty. Yep. That's real disrespectful, Joe. That was just nasty of you right there, man. Like, coming to life back, $10. She said, I tried not to come back to the Super Chat, but I have one more question. This for you, Joe. Oh, Lord. She said Joe Please name All of the Super Bowl Wins of the Pittsburgh Oh I don't know The score And who They played I don't know all of them Shit I don't even know If I can cite that one Z that's what I'm saying Because You came out here crazy I can tell you the ones we won People don't know That was it That was it Detroit That was against Seattle. See, you got Devo flustered. And who was it? Who was it? Oh, the Cardinals. I told you, bro. Remember Trad? I gotta go back in my Rolodex and I gotta see me playing and look at the team. And what was the score? I couldn't even tell you the score. Definitely. if we won then that's like you won I know we lost in 2010 11 mmhmm look at Debo showing it showing it right now showing what bro C T E bro that was a little bit maybe hold up man see now I'm about to go ahead and jump down your neck I'm gonna go ahead and see give it a shot come on give it a shot who you got score I know they beat the Cardinals. The Cardinals, that was my man because I played with San Antonio Holmes. Hold on, hold on. They whooped Dallas? Dallas. Okay. Dallas twice, maybe. Dallas three times? I don't know. Wow. Debo, Debo, Debo. Hold on, I'll tell you. You call yourself. Hold on. You call yourself. Hold on, bro. Let me tell you. You call yourself. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Why don't you just look in the history? This question was for you. I'm trying to help you out. No. You got stumped by the question they tried to fry me. I'm trying to ask. I'm trying to help you out. No. No. I need... Because how they going to ask me for a question that you're supposed to be to Mr. Stiller? All the Super Bowl wins are the Pittsburgh Steelers. Nope. Nope. Nope. She tried to put no... No. ...on you. I can't even tell you this. Okay. Let me get... Dang. All right. So now, the Vikings. Hey, Cowboys, you were right. Cowboys, Cowboys, Rams, Seattle, Arizona. That's only five. Minnesota Vikings. Minnesota Vikings. Okay. Dallas Cowboys. Dallas Cowboys. That was twice. Right. In 76 and 79. Then the Rams in 80. Yeah. Then the Seahawks in 06. And then the Cardinals in 2009. Yeah. Yep. Okay. Yeah, you got it right now. See, okay. Good Googling. Good Googling, Joe. I had to. Yeah. Because you couldn't. You didn't know. What's the score? You said Dallas. Is it Dallas? I said Dallas and Dallas. I thought it was three Dallases, though. You did do Dallas. You did do Dallas twice. I remember the Seattle, the Seahawks won, and Minnesota Vikings in 75. Yep. so D-boy I see you got it yeah you just showed you just showed what was up bro you showed what was up too what you talking about bro wow like listen Joe we got somebody that said what is it Carl Spackler87 this man said I will sell the naming rights to my first kid if we get your borrow he said he will sell the naming rights That's... That boy is selling his whole... Not selling. You got to give it away. Give it away. That show me that you don't want nothing from it. But Burrow. Dedication. Sacrifice. Show him some dedication to sacrifice. Joe Burrow! I let your boy... You know what time it is. I let your boy... You going up there, you talk to Mr. Brown. You let him know. You go ahead. Give me a call. Tell me what he said he want. I jump on down there. We can figure that out. Talk to Omar. Talk to Mike McCarthy. Hey, we get the deal done. Look here. 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