1136: Another Tiger Car Accident + Gary Woodland’s Emotional Win

! Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the no laying up podcast I am I am good. Yeah, I am I am good. I had a great week out here in Denver watched some good golf this weekend excited to talk about it. We have a big show tonight. Obviously, we are going to be starting with yet another car accident in DUI for Tiger Woods. We're going to talk about that here in a second. Gary Woodland's emotional win in Houston. There was some good news going on in the golf world this week. Alex Fitzpatrick breaks through at DLF. Yoju Kim again at the Ford Championship. We're going to come over a couple of guys that were higher on now than we were at the start of the year and vice versa, which may be a little bit more fun. Some Nelly stuff mixed in there. It was a good article of golf week about Augusta national changes talking to a bunch of players as to what changes they'd make there. I'm curious to pick your guys. You already know what I'm on that. You're not allowed. I've made you a non stinky Nandina category. There's a stench in here already. I read the article and I was like, I'm putting this in the agenda and I'm not letting Neil talk about 17. Just not listen to you. This is my platform. I got to hit it. I've always tried to put put barriers around the Schuster Brothers and it almost never works. But I got two quick equipment notes before we get into the show. Gary Woodland put on a clinic with his titles, Pro V one golf ball this week. He gained over five and a half shots on the field with his approach play. He loves the spin and flight windows. He gets from Pro V one natural high speed, high spin player. The V keeps the full swing spin down in an optimal range for him. And also he likes to flight the ball down, especially in the winds that lower trajectory of the V is a great fit. You might have also seen titleist launch the new brand new GTS to GTS three and GTS four drivers on tour this week. Quick update there over 50 players across the PGA tour LPGA and KFT immediately moved to the new GTS driver, including 24 players in Houston. GTS two was tied for the most played driver model in the field in its first week. Also GTS got a win in its first week with Davis lamb taking on the club card championship down on the corn fairy tour with GTS two driver titles also posted some pretty cool behind the scenes content of player testing this week. So you can check those out and stay tuned for more GTS updates over the coming weeks on the super not fun note. Tiger Woods was traveling at a high rate of speed. This is coming from golf week in a land rover and attempted to pass a truck pulling a trailer on a two lane road. Wood swiped the trailer and his vehicle rolled on its side came to rest on the driver's side. According to the Martin County Sheriff's Office Woods crawled out of the vehicle and showed signs of impairment. There were no drugs or medication in the car nor was Woods injured. But he was lethargic on the scene. The Sheriff's Office said and he was alone in the car. DUI investigators were called to the scene to perform roadside tests on Woods and determined that he was impaired. Woods was placed under arrest and transported to the Martin County jail. Once at jail, a breathalyzer test determined that alcohol was not involved, but Woods refused to take a urine test. He was booked into jail and charges of DUI property damage and refusal to submit a lawful test. This is of course Woods's fourth vehicle related incident since 2009. The famous Thanksgiving incident where he was under the influence of sleeping pills wasn't wearing socks and shoes. He was knocked unconscious in the crash. The DUI in 2017 was infamously busted for driving high on prescription pills including Vicodin, diluted Xanax Ambien and THC. We just found a sleep behind the wheel. The horrific crash in 2021 when he was driving between 84 and 87 miles an hour in a 45 mile an hour zone almost needed his right leg amputated and yet again another DUI. I don't have a great question when I throw this over to you, Neil, for a reaction to what we just witnessed unfold here this past week for Tiger Woods. Yeah, man, I got a lot of feelings. I just think first things first for me. DUI or not, Tiger, anyone else just slow the fuck down. Like I don't know, I don't, I have zero patients for driving really fast in residential areas or just like following too closely. Like yeah, you got a history with like crashing your car. I don't understand why we can't just slow down and like, okay, if that's because you're impaired, like I think extra careful then bud. Like the idea that he's rolling up hot on a pressure washing truck and then trying to, you know, make a last minute swerve and then he flips the car like I truly like what are we doing drugs or not? I just, I have zero, personally zero desire to drive fast. I think it's deeply lame when people drive aggressively, weave, follow too closely, all of those things, it just compounds mistakes. And so like I just want to get that out of the way first. So like that, that just always bothers me. And it's like if you have a like a history that you're 50 years old, like let's just not do that anymore. So great, set that aside. I think for me, it's kind of like I'm trying to prepare for this pod and thought about it all weekend. It's like, what were my immediate emotions reactions to this? I was actually Randy speaking to the chainsaw. I was out back with the chainsaw came in my phones blowing up slack channels. Oh my God, another car crash for tiger. What's my first feeling? It wasn't sad. It's not quite anger. It's just exhaustion. Like every time I see tiger now, I feel like I'm exhausted seeing him look exhausted. He looks kind of dead behind the eyes. That doesn't seem like there's a lot like of like, I don't want to say life in there, but he just feels a little he feels a little muted. And I'm exhausted saying to myself, hey, man, he doesn't look right. Like I'm just sick of saying that to myself. And but I don't want to get on like the Billy Payne high horse here, where it's like, I'm stuck between like two versions of the word shame. Like what? What a shame, man. Like the guy's got an addiction problem. Allegedly, right? Like I don't know. But like that's what it kind of looks like to me. And then the other side, I kind of ping pong to like, God, he should be ashamed. Like, why are we crashing our car? Why are we doing this? You know, but then it's like, yeah, I don't want to become Billy Payne and be like, shame on you. Like again, he's a grown man. So I'm just kind of stuck in the middle. But guys clearly got a problem. Everybody, we all just wanted to go away. And it won't. And I feel bad about that. But I'm also just like, stop making it the pressure washer guy's problem. You know, stop making it the cops problem, stop making it like we the doctors that almost have to amputate your legs problem. Like I just if we're if you don't want to talk about it and you don't want to ask for help, then it can't be a public problem. I guess is what I'm starting to think about. And I just like I saw I'm just exhausted with it is kind of my feeling. And I don't know if that's right or wrong. But that's how that's that's how I feel about it. It feels ridiculous. Like I going through it, you know, I'm trying to summarize like a decade of history here in a couple moments. But like, does he have the three worst golfer related driving incidents? Like, maybe I'm forgetting, you know, a tragedy or something off the top of my head here. But it's like, this is not normal. How is it all three coming from one person? And all of them his fault? I mean, the D the 2017 DUI again, what we saw after that happened, people made t shirts with his mugshot on it. And he walked by it at events and laughed and smiled about it. It was like, a very serious incident happened with somebody and he showed almost no remorse for it. The accident that happened in 2021, he was basically asked one question about it ever as far as I could find it was at the hero, asking him to you know, have to relive that or you know, describe the crash. And he just deflected it saying it's all in the police report, which wasn't accurate, either, and didn't get any follow up questions on that. And now another one, I'm exhausted by saying like this sentence, like he's lucky he didn't kill anyone and he's lucky he didn't kill himself. Like this is the third time I mean, the first crash was in his neighborhood, he had a he was knocked unconscious, but he had a fire hydrant, like somebody may have been at risk very shortly after that happened. But like this, the other ones were on public roads in very public places. It is like, it's not that hard to operate a motor vehicle. And if you are like they let 15 year olds operate motor vehicles. It is very hard to do if you're very highly impaired, right. And it obviously the problem does go much higher than just like the decision to get behind the wheel like he needs from what I can gather again, this is not factual. We don't know what was in his system. We don't know what the causes for impairment technically were. In this incident, we have that example from 2017, we famously don't have it from 2021, because the test was not performed there. But every we try, you know, we we've made it a point to point out every time he does an interview that he just he has trouble speaking, he has trouble speaking to the public trouble like keeping up with things. The most recent one was the TGL interview he did where it just looked like he was on camera for the first time ever. And it's sad is just it's horrible to watch and I don't I've never gone through addiction personally. I don't have a ton of people close to me that have gone through it and I haven't witnessed it up close. So I don't want to preach in the same way you're saying Neil of like it is it looks like I'm trying to preach. No, no, I'm saying I'm in the same Yeah, I don't want to preach. You'll like what a shame because I do I have friends that have struggled with painkiller addiction. It's gnarly shit. But it's like, I just want them to man, we gotta like we gotta stop acting like it's not a problem, I guess. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what to do with it, man. I don't. I'm so sorry. I just I don't but I don't want to feel like Billy paint. I keep bringing that up of like, shame, you know, shame on you. But like, I don't know, he just get a fucking driver then. So we want to just just like you have the means just yeah, you man, you're gonna have somebody that's you have to keep on your schedule. But like that's the choice at this point. Randy, we'll give you the last word. I yeah, listen, I echo a lot of what you guys say. I think from where I sit, it's okay to hold feelings of anger at Tiger, like for being this clearly irresponsible yet again, that's it's unacceptable. And I think it's also okay to hold feelings of sympathy and empathy for him. Because quite obviously he is struggling with an addiction and I don't know what that's like. So I can't pretend to put myself in his shoes, but it's got to be about the hardest thing ever. And obviously, he's struggling. So I think it's okay to hold kind of these competing thoughts about all this. I net out that, you know, I would just hope he has somebody in his life that can reach him and have difficult conversations with him and try to put him on a path where he can get right for himself for the rest of his family. And, you know, it's just what I hope for him. It feels like as we're going through this again, I don't know if it's, you know, nobody's able to push him to the help he needs. I don't know if it's Tiger, you know, obviously a strong personality, what made him great on the golf course, I think plays a large part in what is happening off the golf course now. And so yeah, I just think it's obviously a continuing story. I think it has been continuing. It always felt uneasy, you know, a few years back when it was like, Hey, Tiger, he's good now, man. It's like, if you're addicted, that never goes away. And so I think you just try to offer grace. And yeah, I just hope somehow he's able to get help in his personal life because it's very obvious he needs it. And absent of that, you know, I don't know. I know we're going to ask the question, is he going to be in Augusta next month? It's like, man, I, for his sake, I hope not. Like this needs to be, you get one DUI, I feel like that's the worst night of your life. A second like official DUI and not even counting these other incidents that I don't think resulted officially in a, under the influence arrest or charge, like it's not good. If 2021 didn't scare you straight, like dude, you could have so easily died. That's not hypothetical at all. You almost got your leg amputated. And nobody knows what happened. You likely fell asleep at the wheel going 88 miles an hour. Like if that didn't scare you straight, then I don't know what would if you have two kids, like you have two kids, man, like I get that I went down like a rabbit hole thinking about this, Neil, just like pulling pulling back on this was like, yeah, what what made him super motive, made him unique, made him what made him such a great golfer what made him get in this public eye, the way that he is is it works counter to something like this, like he's a maniac. He was famous early famous at a young age. I'm not again, not excusing any of this behavior other than like, he never became, you know, I think it was Bill Simmons has the theory just like the Michael Jackson theory on people that become famous in the limelight before they've reached an age of maturity, like you basically just like stop at that level of maturity. As you get into your adult life, and I can't get that out of my head when I look at tiger across all aspects of his life basically, and had all the famous marital affairs incidents which led to him getting divorced, which sent his life down a different path led to a bunch of injuries because he was a maniac and wouldn't listen to anybody led the Navy SEAL training that the Navy SEAL training caused all these injuries which caused the addiction to keep pulling the thread and it just ends up in a place of like, like you said, you know, it's just a sad story. Like it just a it's a sad story. And I don't I do I we've all everybody's been saying this is everyone's been saying this back to 2017 at least like you should not be driving you just shouldn't and I know it's probably a point of pride and a hard thing to give up. But if this doesn't do it, take away his license second DUI. I don't know how the legal system actually I know I'm not a lawyer but can we take it away because it I mean it's he's not gonna just give it up like he should you know he should turn it in I think the the piece of it though for me is like there's this disconnect between when he when he when we do see him like on TGL or just like throughout his career it's always like yeah I'm solid like like the kind of you know he's Superman like yeah don't worry about me like what yo man we're we're 50 like I'd like to see us enter a new phase like look at Gary Woodland I mean like the vulnerability he shows two three weeks ago it felt like he's got the monkey office back it's like man I'd love to see Tiger pour that like naiacal militant discipline into like getting clean baby like take privacy on a world tour get off the grid dude like if you don't want to go to rehab just go go off on your own just like disconnect for a while because like he clearly doesn't like the public like he only he always wants to like operate on his terms with the publicity stuff he doesn't he doesn't bask in it the way Phil does in the way other athletes do of like you know he doesn't really want to be on TV or do interviews but you can't have it both ways like if you don't want the publicity then you can't be getting in car wrecks either right like like you that that is just part of the deal and I I don't know I'd like to see him enter a new phase and the the I think something that I would really appreciate with Tiger is if we actually saw like the real Tiger it's like some vulnerability like some imagine if he came back was like yeah man I had a problem and I fixed it and I'm I'm I'm working on it every day not fixed it but like I'm you know just like I don't want to say like come and clean with everybody but I mean I would be drawn to that like I was with Gary Woodland like and not like he's coming clean with an addiction but something like serious that he's really struggling with I mean it's like dude be everybody be rooting for you man it's just hard to root for somebody when they're kind of like yeah I'm solid and it's like you're clearly you're not solid what the fuck yeah and that's it's I I can't walk a mile in issues in terms of pain versus pain relief right and that's where yeah it's a I imagine it's a very difficult battle it obviously is I mean he's overcome so much you know adversity some a lot of itself inflicted but then that's where I'm also the if I'm just being honest I'm like I get to a point where I'm like where when I do say self-inflicted that might be diminishing the effects of of addiction you know I don't like talking about this because and then when I say that then I'm like well am I being too sympathetic to somebody that's putting other people's life at at risk here like this is the sympathetic view is like we're worried about what you're gonna do to yourself and I think that's what I was trying to say Sally is like yes to all of that like you can feel all of that it and they kind of contradict that points but I think there's no like that's okay sorry to interrupt no I think those things can be contradictory I really lose the patience for it though with like just the putting other people in danger and like that's and nobody wants you to be hurt either tiger but like it the public roadway like I I had a a a u basketball team made of mine died in a DUI accident when he was 18 years old in Columbus and like it is just something that I I every time I hear about one of these scenarios like it just hits it reminds me of that and it it was not a close friend of mine but it just sucks man and it's just not something to be to be taken lightly like driving into the influence is just not whatever that influence might be it's it's just so not worth it man for especially for somebody worth billions of dollars uh and and could easily pay somebody pay a service 300k 500k over the course of a year to just drive you and your family around at all times I mean that's an outrageous expense uh that's overpaying but that's for 24 seven service to have nearby is just not that crazy of an ask given your current state but I feel like a reach yeah I think if I may just a few more thoughts I think what makes this such a sad story for me and this is all armchair analysis like you know it should go without saying like I don't know tiger and I don't know what's going on but from where I sit right uh I I feel like he's in this tough uh loop where the gulf is what has always given him meaning right it's what's given his life meaning and it's also what has broken his body and I sense there's a real struggle with like what to do after golf or if he can't play golf right so like Neil to your point you know why do you keep putting yourself through this why do you try to live with this pain you know we're talking about another comeback can he play the masters this year and it just is it it's sad to me that I think if for tiger in my opinion it's like yeah well without golf who is he right and and that gets back to you know the earlier point about this this childhood that was in the spotlight and he never really got to grow and develop as a person outside and away from the sport and so I see that which makes it just that much more of a of a sad story to me and then I think the other thing that comes to mind is like Neil to your point about showing vulnerability you know the the the number one thing everybody says about addiction like the hardest thing to do is for the person to admit that they have a problem that they have an addiction and I don't think we've ever gotten that from tiger and until he himself is able to come to that realization I just fear that we're going to be searching for the rock bottom and I I hope that this is the rock bottom and he could admit whether he needs to do that publicly or not I think in time he should admit it publicly that he has a problem but certainly starting in private and get actual help but yeah I the irony the irony big is like the for for his faux strength reasons he doesn't want to do that but the real strength would be to do that right that's 100% like it is a it is showing a weakness by trying to tough this out or whatever whatever it is that you're that you're doing with this I have a question about a lot of things about the fallout from this and kind of how we've operated I'm guilty of this as well I you know by the time you know by by the time 2019 masters rolled around after the 2017 DUI I'm I'm willing to have enough time has passed from that happening looks like he's got his life on track his face looks normal he you know he had been to rehab like he seems to be doing better he's forgiven of his past crimes and I could accept that moment and you know Tiger wins the Masters and it's incredible you know obviously the horrible accident happens in 2021 but you know time goes by and it it there's just like an aging of the event and you're not like when he pops up on screen I'm not thinking about the guy that you know went 88 and flipped the car over it you just it's not out of sight out of mind but it just there's an aging period of this does this forth strike change anything when it comes to like he's basically in charge of with Brian Rollap he's in charge of like figuring out the future of the PGA tour he he hosts two multiple PGA tour events he's being talked about as the next Ryder Cup captain like his golf talent and his presence in the world has outweighed so many of the bad decisions it has made people myself included willing to forget some of these decisions but if it was like hey just let's say it was Zach Johnson was maybe the next consideration for the next Ryder Cup captain uh Zach Johnson is consistently potentially addicted to painkillers and getting in multiple DWI car accidents would he even be be even a remote consideration for a Ryder Cup captain would he be able to but like we seem to be able to look the other way when it comes to him does this change things now is this the one where it's like what Genesis like what does Genesis want to have their name next to next to Tiger continued with that event I maybe that's a shallow way of thinking I know what you're saying man I mean if it was anybody else like I mean if this was the fourth DUI adjacent traffic incident for Phil or Bryson or Dustin Johnson or Zach Johnson like we would yeah we'd shame him into oblivion man and I mean I guess can we all I I think we all like collectively just want to be like when he says yeah I'm solid we just want to take him at his word but I just can't trust that anymore and you know Randy with like shame's a powerful catalyst but it doesn't seem like the I don't know the public it's like yeah should he be in like in the room with the like do the golf power brokers need to get together and be like hey Tiger we need you to step aside for a while go get right like is that the only thing that's going to solve this I mean part of me thinks yeah but I don't know if anybody's got the balls to do that it's an interesting question because I had the same thought you know is is it in a sense enabling to just keep inviting him into tour headquarters to have him a part of everything to have him involved with tournament solid you know TGL I don't know and it's it feels a little unfair of me to sit here and say like to the pj tour you need to cut him out until he gets help but Neil to your point like make like pure shaming is not going to get him there again he has to be the one to recognize he has a problem and I I just think there's there's a thing with attics and I've had a bit of tangential knowledge about this of you know I as it goes right like an attic keeps asking for money and the family keeps sending him money because they want to be nice they want to be supportive they want to be helpful and what you hear is at a certain point is that's not helping like you need to cut this person off and they have to be with themselves and they either are going to hit rock bottom and recognize the problem or you know maybe the worst happens but it gets to a point with attics where I think it's kind of a a very clear path and I just wonder if he was told by the pga tour by genesis by some of these tournaments right hey we can't do this for your own sake you need to step away you need to get help and until you really do you can't be here and we're not going to associate and if you do and when you do we would love to have you back right yeah I thought it feels like something like that again because we're talking about this isn't the first time right this isn't a one-off this is clearly a pattern and so that's why I guess I feel a little bit at liberty to even you know venture this but yeah I I I felt that like are we just all enabling it a little bit it's the fourth incident shake that but it's like the 25th time I've been like I didn't look right no on TV you know like I you am I but I don't know I don't know shit but it's like yeah so solid like when you're talking about 2017 I can understand that in 2019 because like oh man you know he seems like yeah like we you know we got help we're back and you know that's why it's a addiction sucks because it's just it's never it's a hundred years war but I thought I avoided a lot of the discourse on the on the interwebs this week but I did read Joel Beals column and I thought it was really good and there was a quote that really stood out to me that summed up how I felt about the 2021 stuff for a while so I want to read this quote it's quote woods drove off a California road at high speed and shattered his leg nearly lost it the Los Angeles County Sheriff called it an accident no blood was drawn no substance test was administered the official account was no evidence of impairment and that was mostly accepted because woods had nearly died and it felt indecent to push that line really stuck out to me but continuing here but the absence of a test is not the same as a clean result it is the absence of a test what we're left with in place of information was a story about survival in the road back that was covered extensively and which made and which made it functionally impossible to also say we don't know what was in his system that morning that matters it still matters end quote so that that it was indecent to push like I I think at the very least Tiger should not like get frustrated impatient miffed if he's asked about this in the future like and it was almost like no you're not allowed to ask and that's why I do think the media got like all of us have gotten a little big timed on this like after the but it did feel indecent because it was like yo he almost lost his leg all right like I gotta think he's gonna like clean it up now right like we're all kind of crossing our fingers about it but like like you said he got asked about it like one time it was like it was like oh no man don't go there and that's like we gotta stop doing that like I will say like yo man you gotta you gotta answer these questions now I think that's fair at the very least I went back and read a bunch of stuff from when that happened in December of 21 so he was asked so again the question was Tiger I'm wondering what you remember the accident obviously we all saw the result and looked so horrifying and scary and I have a follow-up to that Tiger said yeah all those answers have been answered in the investigation so you can read all about it in the police report Aiman Lynch and Damon Hatt came on the air after after the interview and Aiman said he swatted away the first question about the car crash by saying it was in the police report all the answers are there which is demonstrably untrue all the answers aren't there there are a lot of questions Tiger should still face and its indictment of golf media that he wasn't actually asked any follow-up questions about that I said I thought it was interesting how little he actually was actually pressed on what has been the seminal event of Tiger's year and why we haven't seen Tiger for 280 days and his ability to just swatted away and not actually be pressed on it was disappointing in a way Damon Hatt followed up saying not only about what happened but what changes may be coming in his life because of that what can he do to be more careful does he have a driver going forward this is an accident that affected Tiger and could have affected others and I went back I was sharing all this and like I remember people like shitting like violently like yelling at me online like this is a crazy hill to die on like he's not going to answer questions about them like he should like he should he should why aren't you asking them well I don't go to the freaking horror hero world challenge but like it was a weird thing people like rushing to defend Tiger and think it's his private life he does not have to discuss this like he does when you're on public roads if you're doing this shit in public and you're endangering other people you do need to comment on it so I feel like everybody else is gonna would have to answer these questions I don't know yeah so like you know listen hand up I haven't asked him the question but I remember wondering about that I'm like are we gonna talk about this at all like I guess we're just gonna cross our fingers and and here we are you know five years later it's hard because like there's no there's no like event that wants that either like Augusta's just that's not what they want their press conference to turn into and that could be a reason why he does play in the Masters coming up like why not just get in front of the media now and then swatted away at Augusta which they'll they'll you know probably do what they can to protect me and then we can move on from there say it's on the police report it's probably all that's gonna happen it just it's it's just sad at this point but yeah it's exhausting yep and it's a bummer and yeah that's it and and you know what but then like you said ready two things can be true like man him winning the 2019 like how fired up did that make me I mean it yeah damn yeah I still like I don't think this is gonna happen or even close to a realistic expectation but if he came back and beat this addiction again and came back and had a miracle another major like I feel like I'd be running I don't even need that at this point no no I don't know but I'm saying come back with like clear eyes and like that's for life and like you know that's what you know kind of like the honestly the way I like the interview I saw with Gary Woodland you know just a guy that looks freed up man like talk about a like a we said it in slack today a palate cleanser of like good for him that feels great and I'm glad you got like that off your chest and then you just played great golf awesome yeah he will get into some of that he did have some comments afterwards about how affected he still was by by a few things out there in the back nine today which we'll get to that anything else on the tiger thing before before we wrap I mean I'd be shocked if we saw him at Augusta but I guess you never know right like I I guess he can say I hope we don't you know like I just think he's got much bigger issues like just go away and get right man yeah all right we are on to Houston Neil but before we get there I gotta tell everyone about our finally we can talk about this Arcos thing it's been killing me we've been bottled up on all this stuff Arcos if you don't know the official game tracker the PGA tour and honestly the smartest platform in golf it's not just tracking your stats helps you own the choices you make on the golf course with confidence that's why we use it at NLU we could finally talk about Arcos air we've been using this for the last few months but it's finally here you can track all of your stats with no sensors on your club no phone required just golf a small little device that Neil's going to hold up 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again on this Friday and I'm stoked I almost golf season here would love to love to start it's like ending here so I can't play any right now yeah I feel that Neil but this truly like I am cynical about a lot of stuff and I've I've never wanted like my phone out to track stats during a round I want to put it away like I really am excited sorry that that breakdown that you just showed between like your driving your approach your your you know your short game what your relative strengths and weaknesses are I have no idea what that is for me like I have ideas based on just years of you know what's in my head but truly can't wait to see what it tells me and that's honestly tip of the iceberg that's what I've chosen to to talk about tonight it's tip of the iceberg because there's so many amazing features with the smart laser smart range finder and all enough for the nest to learn all the other stuff get in there we'll keep talking about it because it's really impressive all right at the Texas Children Houston open Gary Woodland took a one shot lead over Nikolai Hoygard into the final round uh Hoygard was five shots clear of Minwooli and and Michael Thor Bjornsson uh at t3 and minus 12 so it's going to be Woodland versus Hoygard they got boring in a hurry Woodland made birdies on five seven eight and nine is in struggles from Hoygard the lean ballooned all the way up to seven shots Woodland go on to win by five uh he of course gave the emotional interview on the 18th green with his wife nearby uh just 20 days earlier he was on golf channel in tears talking about the PTSD uh he was experiencing and how you know just people getting close to him in space and um and some incidents that he's had that he's had had just made it very clear that he was struggling and I don't think many of us in the golf world maybe some of his peers knew uh a lot more than we did but most people in the golf world did not know he wanted to speak out about it hoping to help some heavy topics tonight I'm just now realizing but wanting to help anybody uh that you know maybe would be struggling in some way and just 20 days later here he is winning back on the pj tour for the first time uh in seven years it was quite serendipitous and I could not be more more happy uh for Gary and his family I mean Neil you mentioned it talking about tiger uh if if anybody has not seen his interview Gary Woodland's interview with Rex Hoggard from players championship week I would just encourage you to go watch that I watched it again today um I I think Gary is is just the power of of sharing something personal about himself has turned me into a fan and I I guess I don't say that lightly like Gary Woodland's never been somebody that like I've gravitated towards or who necessarily I'm seeking out if I'm going out to a tournament or even if I'm like flipping on coverage or looking for a featured group he's just never been my guy but now knowing what he's gone through and his ability to open up to be vulnerable to be a real person yeah I was rooting for the guy today like it's amazing how quickly that switch just gets flipped in my own mind where this guy that was whatever yeah Gary Woodland I know he won the US Open and now he's like a really interesting character to me and I'm really curious to see and and follow along and ride along on this journey with him because he's led us in a little bit he's he's been vulnerable you know he he has connected to people in this whole new way and as he said himself it's like a thousand pounds off his back and he goes out he played really good golf last week he played fantastic this week and that's that can't be a coincidence and so from where I said it just is like kudos Gary we knew we were talking tiger off the top of the show and it's nice to kind of have this dichotomy of human stories and I think Gary shows what could be with tiger like there's a path there right but in and of itself the Gary Woodland story is fantastic and I just think this is a great cherry on top today no matter what he does the rest of the year but now I'm curious like he's playing really damn good golf yeah like he said he's like golf's never been better and and so it it was interesting even though he was up by seven I found it interesting to watch a wily old vet like hit irons off the tee just I mean played like veteran golf with a lead you know he was real but but you know as a viewer I'm leaning forward like man I wonder if he's like I wonder what's on his mind right now I wonder it made me invested in the golf today and what otherwise like you said should have been like oh he's up by seven and it's two weeks before the masters and like I you know March Madness is on like do I really want to watch this I was like I was kind of like pretty locked in and I just want to say this this is a win for dudes everywhere I feel like if you look up dude in the dictionary Gary Woodland his picture is right there I mean the guy's just like a he's a horse you know he's a dude and uh he gotta just wax it man I mean he's leading the fucking PGA tour in ball speed at 41 years old what you know like I know we we laugh about the oh they're just better athletes these are good athletes there's an example of like that guy's he's a dude man he he is the FINALE like he's had 20 more in the tank like he if you remember when he came out like he I remember I watched him hit a drive on the second hole at the 2010 US Open at Pebble uh when I was there in person and it was like it went down I wish I'd find the shot tracker on that one I don't know if they had it back then it looked like somebody where had somebody had laid up on the par five it was it looked I think he flipped a wedge into the second green at Pebble it was one of the longest drives I've ever seen anywhere ever and I was immediately intrigued by him went and followed him the next year in Chicago in 2011 uh I think it was at Coghill and then he like dialed it back and I don't really know the full story of that but if you look back in like the mid 2010s he I think in 2017 or 2015 one of the years I looked up he was like mid 170s with ball speed and he just I don't think it was a physical thing I think he just was kind of raining it in for whatever reason he got back up back up in the 180s there pretty easily but now he's close to 190 ball speed at age 41 he's just like embraced this stroke scheme I've got this I've got I've had this thing that you know a lot of people have and I I probably should have been flexing it really really hard and now I'm actually going to uh I do want to clarify I wasn't talking about your dudes like your oh I know that's a different category just like dudes you know guys guy he's just a dude uh and Randy your point he kind of blended in for me for a long time I mean he was the he was the running back on the uh NLU all pig skin team back in 2014 the guys put around forever long time we've always thought he was it was a you know loud traits five-tool player baby so it's yeah it's now he's got you got a little bit you know yeah like there's something to root for so it's uh I don't know it was fun today he if you will just real quick randy he said um you know a question he got he said so my heart rate gets going I had to battle this week the last 10 holes on Friday I teed off on nine and some people behind the ropes got close to me and I got extremely hyper vigilant I'll tell you this if it wasn't for uh tour security and my security Zach this week there's no way I'm sitting here right now I was a wreck the last 10 holes of that day I got into scoring Zach got close to me tour security was visual so I saw them they calmed me down I got into scoring I bawled my eyes out I reset and I was able to come back out and take care of stuff after coming out talking and asking for help I didn't do that last year I didn't do that early this year if I wouldn't ask tour security they wouldn't have been there for me like that I'm extremely thankful for them but I'm in a fight I'm able with love and support I have around me I have hope like to win with all win by five with all of that shit going on man is so incredibly impressive like it again it was kind of like I'm watching it I'm like oh he's he's fine now it must have been really helpful to have come out with that and he's totally fine it's like no he was dealing with all this shit again on Friday like stuff that we can't understand like it's not normal like it's obviously not a normal reaction your his body is having to a lot of these things if you remember that he had a lesion on his brain that caused extreme anxiety terror and in some cases symptoms of fear and anxiety and then he had the the surgery was in September of 2023 and this PTSD PTSD has been an after effect of all of this happening and it's it's just man again one of those things where he gives you that nugget of like no it's still going on man it's I'm not past this stuff just because I talked about it's still going on and go to win a golf tournament is just just remarkable yeah so I think the center shafted putter too I noticed that um roll roll roll in the potato today big putts everywhere Randy it's just it was it was just a triumph I loved it I enjoyed the anecdote about uh his wife convincing him to get back to Randy Smith who was a longtime golf instructor for him and then he moved away from him the way they told it today on the broadcast uh big Randy Smith essentially told him to like dude you're babying the golf ball you know the joke we always made about stew sing you know like quit babying the golf ball and he talked about putting in different shafts shafts that he used I think from like 2015 to 2019 when he was like really getting after the the golf ball and he's he's made that switch lately and yeah he's just he's swinging hard and he's a little extra lumber yeah yeah it's uh it's fun the only other thing I've like my kinship with Gary has always been he played a year of you know he played a year college basketball but it's the same exact we were freshmen in college the same exact year we're the same age uh so he played the 2022-23 season at Washburn a D2 school in in Topeka while I was out at a D3 school in Virginia uh so I've always felt a little kinship with him there would love to challenge him to a game of horse sometime just like you challenged Vado yeah tried to he got back down uh Nikolai Hoygar did uh he shot a fine around 71 uh he did end up in solo second place Johnny Keefer Min Woo Lee sharing T3 Sam Stevens solo fifth heck of a group at T6 Jake Knapp Chris Goder up Siddharth and Yelamiraju uh and Jason Dey saw Hetagala rounding out the top 10 with uh Bronson Bergoon don't call me Benson Boone uh there with uh with T10 finishes there and DJ Pi's face so I have a question for you guys as we're you know as we're close to flipping over into major we're very close to flipping over to major championship mode but we're at the end of March three months into the season almost not really this year because we didn't really have sent we didn't have century but about three months into the season I'm looking for two guys that you are more positive on right now than you were at the beginning of 2026 Randy I'll start with you uh do you want both guys or we want to go one at a time you tell me well let me give you my first guy then if you care for a second I can give you my second um I'm just really intrigued by what we're seeing from Jake Knapp can you stole my guy oh I'm sorry go on go on go on well just how real it is yeah baby is is this a hot couple of months is this a new level that he has reached and will continue on uh how much juice is left in the tank to keep getting better I mean as of today he leads the tour in strokes gain total strokes gain uh bummer he missed the cut at the players you know like the one big event so far this year he missed the cut but otherwise his worst finish is a tie for 11th and otherwise he's been top five to top eight in every start and to me he's you know he's one once on tour and he's always kind of just been a dude and somebody's like oh yeah Jake you know just like a name you recognize but I'm like okay Jake Knapp like how good are we I see you balling yeah and like president's cup maybe you know it's like things start to come into play where I want to see him yeah I want to see him in some more big events and I want to see how real this is well Randy let me add to that I think he's got loud ass traits to use the phrase that that that you coined for me it's such a good phrase but like the smooth golf swing but it's magnetic because you know he's just cruising in the high 180s or mid 180s whatever I mean he just moves the golf ball seems like he's really started to harness the distance and pair it up with a little bit more control off the tee he's he's putting a ton better the last six months uh and he's just got swag like period he looks kind of looks the part of like man that guy's like he's got that kind of California cool and uh I find it pretty easy to root for he's also just like a course record dog like today so it's like another course record shot 59 you know last year it's like that's just fun it's like that's it was kind of I feel like borderline I don't want to say gimmicky last year and now it's like no now we're seeing like consistency so I'm with you it's like I was a little bit like oh yeah Jake Knapp like he's the guy that used to be the bouncer now it's like no Jake Knapp's got like straight up game and I'm rooting for him to keep this going um so there you have it low key puts the lights out too like he has been an unbelievable putter uh so far this year and I don't know if that's the kind of thing that lasts forever but uh it's I mean he's getting like over almost a shot and a half per round on the greens well you just have to imagine that's the best in the world over the last three months seeing a guy I'm you know I'm always drawn to a guy that's not scared to go low because I'm terrified to go low so when you see someone that's just not scared of it and then they're pairing it up with t6 this week like you said Randy cut and then it was 6 t8 8 t5 t11 there was the results this year that's pretty strong it's strong yeah best putters in the world of last three months Jacob Bridgeman won Jake Knapp number two so um let's go around I don't want you to steal another one of ours Randy so let's go yeah so you give us yours okay I would let me I don't want Neil to get two guys still okay you're not gonna steal mine mine's kind of down the board um it's kind of a random one but Bo Hossler okay he seems much more much more comfortable in his own skin I love the coffee stuff Randy kind of what you were saying about is this about his game at all or well I feel like he's in break like seeing him embrace an off-the-course passion like I'm like oh that's cool like he seems really excited about that and like letting me in as a fan just a little bit I mean and other end of the spectrum here but similar to Woodland where I'm like oh that's cool like Bo likes coffee and he just seems like he's like personally like grown up and I you know I feel like I used to make fun of him a lot and I I feel like now I see him on the leaderboard I kind of root for him now he's played okay he's like you know up up not in the top 50 or anything but you didn't you the question was is there somebody that you're a hire on and that I would I would put Bo Hossler in that category yeah you took it in a different direction which is totally fine that's what makes you you and so it makes you special we used to call the golden retriever I did not I know and the enduring image was him in the NCAA where like his blew out his shoulder and he like you know couldn't swing the golf club yeah I was panicking for a little bit like Bo Hossler played way better than I realized no he's not he's not at all but it's not I'm rooting for him I I'm gonna do somewhat of a little mea culpa not even really a mea culpa the guys made changes and has made tangible changes and I'm buying them I think differently of men willy then I did at the start of this year sitting he uh he might be stabilizing he had a long-winded answer that I kind of summarized in a press conference this week but he basically said he had to slow things down to get more accurate in the signature events because those events emphasize accuracy so much more and he's gone from like like about four percent worse than average in terms of accuracy amongst pro golfer to now being three percent in the positive and he's only lost three yards relative to the field in the process like he's still hitting it very far but now above average accuracy his stroke gain off the T has gone up from point one six to point eight five blah blah blah that's almost three shots of tournament that he's gained just off the tee from being more accurate and still being very long add in he's made a massive leap from being below average with his irons to now above average that's another two and a half shots per tournament so he's he's added five and a half shots with ball striking since the beginning of this year compared to last year and it's that's remind he's already a very very very good putter and you know he's he's gaining um what is that seven he's been basically he's been seventh best worldwide in strokes gained so far this season and he's doing it and just to hear him say that out loud of like the signature events I was finishing like an average of 50th in all of them I had I was nowhere to be found and just like you know what we've been talking about the last several weeks about how the signature events are such a better accuracy test than some of these just pounded events like this one uh just had me thinking differently about men really and I will not automatically dismiss him if he gets near the top of a leaderboard of a big event so I was telling you Randy's putting you on notice you need to let him cook okay yeah nobody lets him cook uh it's good to hear that solid I'm not quite there yet personally but I'm glad I'm happy for you and your journey with men men who this version of him is a different one so I stand by previous takes on it I'm glad he got back in the lab and and told us about that so what's your second one Randy uh I'm cheating a little bit with this second one because I didn't really have a strong opinion of him uh in fact I didn't know who he was but I'm mega down with uh god I gotta look up the pronunciation so I get it right Sudarshan yellow mirage you by far the most interesting Canadian golfer on tour I I just think in a world where we have these kids uh and I'm painting with a broad brush here but you know the little prototypes who have been coached from the time they could hold a golf club and they'd seem to be just rolling off the factory assembly line I just dig that this guy has like bet on himself his whole life taught himself the golf swing had no like family help really at a young age in in the sport and here he is he's he's made the pga tour this year um and is having a hell of a run I just I think it's a cool story I'm in uh I find myself rooting for him and I think back to the beginning of the year I couldn't have picked this guy out of a lineup I had no idea who he was that's a good one Randy you're here Neil I have no idea where you're gonna go no I had Jake nap that was my okay okay that's over to you sir I see by time I would just say saw hith um I was oh it was why I feel differently about him now than I did at the beginning of the year I was worried it was a very much not good year last year that he misses window and the guy looks to be a lot closer to to maybe even the best version of himself so far this year and uh I still still need to see a little bit more consistency off the tee we always do need that but uh I've been reminded multiple times this year of why I really was drawn to that guy and I think I think there's a win in his future for this year I think that's uh it's something I'm counting on it might be a big one too certainly relatable yeah so big misses man it's it's exciting it makes it fun yeah it's what makes it fun trust it though what about going the other way somebody who you were come on yeah Randy can you kick us off brother somebody you're not as high on as you were at January 1 of this year calling calling you selling low he's selling no we're still holding the high on calling we're down from when we bought him right before the players but we're hanging on to this uh I shit you not solid the name in my notes that I'm gonna read right now is sahith to go oh my god oh hell yeah and this is nothing personal against sahith let me let me just say that seems like a great guy I I enjoy everything about him away from the golf course I simply cannot take another stressful golf relationship in my life I cut my teeth on the Phil Mickelson experience I've been invested in the Jordan Spieth thrill ride like I can't do it with sahith I can't do the roller coasters I can't do I just don't need it for my own mental well-being I am saying no thank you to sahith I don't need that stress in my life no it's a toxic relationship for you it's a toxic relationship Neil thank you and I'm saying enough is enough I think that's so fair it's fair for both of you I'm happy for no it's very fair it's very fair I can't fight you on that I completely under sabre you're coming from there but it's also kind of part of the fun part of being a fan so yes uh Neil uh I got so I got two I'm gonna go uh I'm gonna go with my second one first Sung Jae him I just I don't know what happened I mean the good one Neil just forgotten man he's top 10 player in the world eight 16 months ago eight like finishing 2024 uh I didn't realize until we did our season kickoff but he's now like I was like whoa he's like he's 99th in the data golf ranking 92nd in the FedEx Cup but he's still doing a little bit of the Sung Jae thing where he had this T4 at Valspar otherwise completely the forgotten man this year and you know then I'm looking up kind of his scatter plot I always I guess I thought he hit it better than he did but like kind of below average approach play below average distance like I thought his game was built a little bit more for the like modern pga tour and maybe I I was just convincing myself of that but he's 27 years old and I kind of expected big things I thought Sung Jae was going to break out like the last three years and then it's just like all of a sudden I wake up and like man he's not even in the realm anymore so it's just I'm just kind of scratching my head with like what's going on there that's a good one um this one maybe is both of mine are maybe just a little bit too easy and one's a little harsher than it probably should be but the first one's JJ spawn I mean the guy won the US Open last year almost won the players was on was a rider cupper and he has just it's it's gone like whatever it was it's completely gone he has turned right back into uh basically being like a replacement level pj tour players so far this year one top 25 it was at the players I think he's only made one other cut even if I remember right that was yeah he made we made t40 at sony t45 at pebble the rest he's missed the cut of farmers missed cut of genesis which is not a big cut miss cut Arnold Palmer which is not a big cut uh miss cut at vowspar uh as well so it looks like he's putting horrible yeah it's really really bad really bad putting so far yeah um so that's everything else looks I mean not great but you know and I'm just this is an eye test on the data golf profile of the last you know what six seven events but the putting is standing out is like is red not good all right ready another round uh don't say minwoo lee no this is unfair to the kid I feel bad but this is just a direct result of him cracking the top 10 best players to never win a major oh hell yeah Luke clanton gonna need a little bit more from your bud just I'm gonna have to see a little bit something here uh we did have the t5 in Puerto Rico otherwise it has been bleak this year so I'm I'm I'm out on Luke clanton until proven otherwise god that's just just chum in the water for tc and d chan thank you for leaving me out of that Neil that means the world I tried my absolute hardest on that pod thank you I'm a hottest uh all right I've got Mr. Benjamin E booms yeah Dren doesn't look great this year uh only top 20 and 2026 was at Sony I think he was like I made the cut this week top 40 it looks I'd have to look at where he finished on the leaderboard but three straight missed cuts before this uh got married in December I mean big year last year kind of felt like man we have lightning in a bottle here and I'm rooting for that like not to be the case because seems like a genuinely good dude um but like you know the swing has always been like I don't know is that gonna hold up like long term on the pga tour or we were selling mortgages I think you know a couple years ago like awesome story but I just you know I'm like ah man maybe that was just a one hit wonder so hopefully not but that's you you asked I hate I hate hate not guys but here we are he was mine as well Neil uh you're a little harsh with some of it he hasn't been a nearly as hard of a follow-up to spawn he's not a one hit wonder he's still an above average tour player I think it was like that was a pretty massive leap pretty sustained leap uh over last year and very justified I thought Ryder Cup pick and now he's just kind of turned back into who he was in 2024 which is again a very good golfer and very good professional but I you know I'd be surprised as we're standing here now if he would be on the president's cup team for example this year what an awesome story though to go from that's me mortgages the Ryder Cup team in two years that's pretty cool should be a no for whatever happens from here it's like that's that's awesome you know no no dog in that resume at all um I want to give a shout out to our friends at sofi for sponsoring today's episode they're the all-in-one finance app where you can bank borrow and invest think about your golf swing the more you practice the better it gets same goes for your money by investing consistently over time you may increase the potential for long-term growth that's why we love sofi they offer all-in-one investing it's easy to use you can trade stocks ETFs even get access to IPOs before they hit the exchange with sofi securities or try sofi's award-winning low-cost robo advisor through sofi wealth whether you're an experienced investor or just getting started sofi provides tools that help you stay on top of your financial game and help help you reach your ambitions head to sofi.com slash nl you to learn how to get your money right with sofi invest this is a paid advertisement by sofi technologies and 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Don't give financial advice Sally don't do that. Back to quickly just tell all these financial things. Yeah we've heard all about that. Stay off that. Come on. Back to where we at on Memorial Park we're gonna see it again here for the Chevron. I was trying to think of a new lens to view golf courses through or talk about them and we can do this for all the courses from this week but like who won this week did the players win or did the course win and it can be a little bit of a litmus test for golf courses but I definitely feel like the players won this week down in Houston but where Randy where are you at on this golf course? I I'm a little bit needing and wanting more information I think it looks like I like a lot of things about Memorial Park and there's enough there to I'm like oh that's interesting oh okay it might it might just not be a good course for the PGA tour is is where I net out but I am excited to see the women play it at the end of April for the Chevron I'm curious how similar the conditioning will or won't be but I guess I can give it a compliment it's a course that looks like I would like to play it and I think I would enjoy playing it so you know take take that I guess for what I think that's well said I enjoy it I thought I mean god I thought the aerials of it maybe any other Texas course I've seen on the PGA tour I was like man this looks cool like I like the Brancas and the like that 13th the short four with the no bunkers on it and you know I mean those guys they weren't struggling but it was like those are some tight lies eight ten feet you know greens ten feet of like pitched up like that we didn't like greens yeah and I was like man I I said the same thing right and I was like I would love to play there like that looks like that was like an awesome municipal golf course and I think it should get a ton of flowers for that it looks like shout out to the doki-doh looks like they thoughtful redesign and I'm I'm glad it's being featured on TV this is how I feel yeah it it I might I asked you guys to prepare a take you've had in the last three years or so that you'd like a little bit of a mulligan honor mea culpa on and I'm gonna softly wade into the waters here with a take of mine that I've been pretty steadfast on more clarifying that I am willing to wave the white flag or admit defeat on but I have underestimated at minimum the importance of rough and pro golf as far as when it's really gone like this week it was like oh this is this is fucking stupid for for these guys in particular now the opposite of the spectrum I also think stinks I think just thick rough every like Torrey Pines narrow and thick rough is not a good combo but it just felt like there was no punishment Tor take no you've got a thread a needle here it is you do with with the technology out of control you've got a thread a needle Neil you do and that's makes it really really hard and that's why they got to get the but like it's not a coincidence I don't think that we have Gary Woodland just a massive ball speed guy Nikolai Hoy guard blowing it all over the yard and just like what was the 12 were missing Saturday he missed so far wide and they're like oh he's totally fine over there he had a better it got past all the trees Min Woo Lee who again making progress on this but he's there Chris got her up in the chasing Sunday thing so I cannot wait to get to Houston so I can just hit it anywhere it needs a little bit more teeth for for a pj tour event ready to your point and that's where it's like yeah that's a good municipal golf course I like that they're playing in a municipal golf course I don't want the golf course to get you know ruined or you know the municipal place should take precedent over the golf tournament you know in general anyways and I think I hope we see a little bit more rough for the women or even a little tighter fairways for the women and I think that there's a better chance that a lot of the features around the greens get drawn out with the women playing in I think it could very well be a nice major championship venue but but for the for the Oversee though Neil the oh it I was about to say that it just it just I'm quite doing for me man it just it could it could use some rough which I can't the combo and I give it though I thought like some of the par threes those guys got their hand in the cookie jar on I mean there was some good there was maybe not enough there there were some challenging holes I thought that that made these guys tested the short game made them think a little bit but overall yeah they just got a bomb it yeah the fourth hole on Saturday the back left pin Carl Phillips got got that was a crazy you never see the tour really you know they're doing their best they push a couple hole locations that one on four a long par four they'll put it off the green chipped it off the other he was putting for birdie and made a triple on that hole which the other thing I'll say it shout out to Houston it felt like a good yeah atmosphere out there like not like crazy crowded where it would be like no fun but it looked like man you're on the like plenty of people on the rope lines just just good uh I don't know good energy um you know broadcast a little sleepy but hey man it's two weeks before yeah we knew that was gonna be knew that that is that's what we signed up for that's in the model when we signed up for this year podcast ready we knew they would be asleep we knew that which brings me to my next question in a future world like we're in a clear lull here between players and masters it's hard to get amp for for val spar houston valero something you know unique features in all of them that are not make them auto skips obviously but should there be this weekend in the in a future pga tour world if there's gonna be three tournaments between the players and the masters should the tour focus on having a big event this weekend does that make sense it's a good question I'm gonna play the uno reverse card because I feel like soli doesn't get to answer the questions first very often and I'm gonna I'm gonna say sorry why don't you tell us your opinion thank you randy uh it's time for a fucking question I mean guys uh I think I think it's I think they should I mean we have a stretch of five of six signature events and majors here coming up and you know granted the entire pga tour schedule is a big erector set and it's not easy to unwind and just move stuff around at will but I think derral would be pretty darn great if we're gonna do derral which is not my favorite golf course uh that would make sense in this spot with a big field now I think what they're gonna run into the problem here is having the signature event right after the masters and wanting to leave players with the option open to play the week before if they want to as well so now you're talking four in a row for some guys and you know that's something that's why there's probably not one um but it does feel like you know maybe could you add another week in between the players and masters and then you get one you get a signature event three weeks ahead of the masters and then the two-week lull it just feels like three-week lull is a lot in this time period yeah but not easy solution it's more I would zoom out even farther it's like what do you think is a better best practice do you like line them up like bay hill and players and have back-to-back big tournaments and then a break or do you go like one big tournament week off like every other week you have a signature event you see what I'm trying to say yeah like I I almost think you got because like I mean there's gotta be a break somewhere so you're so you're basically saying that you think three weeks is too long yes and I think I just think this time of year is we're kind of teetering on the edge starting weather starting to get better people start getting outside like the you know golf is big this time of year engagement week to week on the pga tour is big when majors start it dips a fair amount in between weeks and it's like just could you squeeze one more in this time period and lead up into the masters again it's not perfect it's not clean if you're keeping heritage the week after the masters as a signature event in a new world which is not a guarantee I don't think I mean the RBC could be alternating between Canadian Open and heritage being signature events for all we know but I think this would not there's going to be changes in 2028 and it would not surprise me if there's a change around this weekend two weeks in front of the masters is my overall point but something else would have to change downstream as well I mean you could you could talk me into lightening up the signature load in in May yeah and moving one to March for sure yeah I just feel like that yeah like the Miami truest pga championships like uh you know a little just get some pats I know I'd rather go play golf I'm taking a week off on one of those yeah you know I saw I'm with you I just on like the calendar itself like yeah this is probably a better place to capitalize then you think about yeah like college basketball it's like okay it's still sweet 16 elite eight which is good you know good tv but a good golf tournament on right now with him I would watch for sure for sure I think just to just to add to this I this hurts me to say but I think harbert town being a sick event probably doesn't make sense I would I would shift that signature event into this space already wants that to be sleepier well no I've actually loved seeing all the top guys play harbert town but it's just like man everybody's coming down for masters week like that doesn't have to be a signature event I will say though if the schedule does remain as currently construed I think this is a great opportunity for a new and revamped LPGA schedule to put a really interesting event or two into this space for all of the reasons you stated you know it's it's kind of the the height of a lot of people's golf watching and so I think it would be a good opportunity for the women to have a great event and I don't think the four championship at least at that golf course is it but we're gonna talk about that you didn't think what do you think wild horse pass one or the or the field I think wild horse pass tapped out Thursday morning but my house got got you than I was on the track out of the starting gate we'll get there other news and notes blades brown solo third on the corn fairy tour this week now projected up into the 22nd in the standings very very early still in the course I actually enjoyed I had the dual screen on yeah and man it was it was like nobody was out at that until you got to like 1718 at the club car championship kind of fun fun golf to watch though like I haven't watched a lot of corn fairy and that was good stuff what was up with Ian did you see Ian Gilligan had was wearing a backwards hat did you see that is he out there trying to grow the game or did you see that clip I didn't see that clip okay I saw it in passing um oh right he's got a backwards hat on right now I know that's growing the game yeah what is firing generations Dan I just want to you know put a you know my my squad juke links we gave it a great run it was great season come no one really believed in us but unfortunately it fell short and then in the finals of the sofi cup on Tuesday and um yeah obviously with what's on I can't I can't transition it to to what happened with Tiger in the in later part of the week but it was it was funnier it was going to be funnier to euthanize this this season before the incident that happened later but uh tough effort with um you know they had to vamp for like two hours afterwards because they were planning on to go three which didn't seem very well sketched out so it was like what is up with this trophy ceremony this is so bad and she was she was like why are we still watching what do we do we got sports center on site here that's making me laugh other when my wife comes from the top rope on some of this stuff I can't believe they didn't fix it like you it's I know green golf you're telling me you can't put the fix in on that to stretch that I was back on what do we do when it's why invested so heavily into one of the founders the league's team I thought they had to have the fix in so uh at the hero Indian open a uhania or you is it a uhanio or eugenio randy it's a you hand me a suarez and now I'm caught up on it yeah for our beloved a uanio suarez I candidly now I don't know you're making a thing I think neils the expert here is it a pint you tell me a uanio chikara hit a three-run homer to win the game uh for the reds no he took a four shot leading the final round but it's alex fits patrick wins for the first time on the dp world tory won by two shots over chicara he actually doubled the final hole to still win by two shots final round 69 was bested only by matel manisero the final round scoring average was 76.1 he was six back playing the sixth hole doubles 18 to win by two like that's how volatile the score he was and how bad chicara fell apart fits patrick birdie six eight nine 11 12 13 15 and 17 I only caught up on this one with the highlights but uh my god dlf man is so in uh also the fits patrick brothers in general don't get a look for the fedora five just as a unit what are we doing we should have we should have phone tc for an update on the fedora five this week but he's obviously not a package deal right there get him on the list um dlf though man it I thought about this the whole I was like watching the flyovers the holes and watching all the highlights and everything do you remember that video that was going around I think it was a couple years ago like the caption on twitter was like nothing prepared me for what they were going to show when they when they zoomed out yeah and it was jim it was jim justice on stage with this dog some rally or something that's how I feel every time they show a highlight of an approach shot into a green at dlf it's just like whoa what is that next to the green like a fake rock outcropping like oh the next tall's got a link oh the next tall's got a massive like skyscraper apartment building oh the next one's got foam wall bunkers that are about 15 feet high it's so absurd they're pushing the the art forward I I'm I'm way in man like you gotta you gotta create an identity in this world who is playing this golf course week to week they should uh they need to have more pro events at this guy there's all the pros only should be pros playing this golf course ever it looks so freaking impossible 17th hole is completely outrageous 18 that hole is at this looks like a golden t-hole uh it's it's it's I'm watching about again all the drone flyovers I was like I think I if I got this on a roller coaster and I need to throw up like I I'm a little nauseous uh after watching all of this dr. mnjals out there through the trophy I mean it's good stuff man I think they can do night golf there if I'm reading their website correctly I would be great for for you know getting on in a decent window yeah in the US if they care about that what an unbelievable place you're right yeah uh shikara man he is such a weird golfer to watch he's extremely unconventional like if you go back and watch the highlights like his chip on 11 is just like it looked like area jutan agar and randy last year at chevron just like just stabbing at it uh he puts with a broomstick with a glove on and it doesn't doesn't look natural let me finish second place because I was the incredible player like to do to be able to do all that while looking as unconventional as it does like it just that jumps off the screen to me when you watch him as like this looks very uncomfortable he would look very uncomfortable today trying to close out a lead on that golf course would be an absolute nightmare and he had a very tough final round but uh he's he's entertaining to watch that's for sure and we're probably gonna see him back on the pga tour here very soon not back on pga tour the first time we'll see him on the pga tour here very soon so I look forward to it I that's honestly the most exciting review I think you could have given yeah about somebody I will be tuning in he hits the shit out of it we know that randy you want to take us to the uh the wild horse oh yeah uh it's a wild horse that did not win this week it's um just kind of a nondescript dllf did win but yes the wild horse did not win yeah yeah wild horse nondescript desert golf course but this was the four championship and boys in case you didn't get enough of hyouju kim and nely korta dueling last week uh they played all four rounds together this week meaning they've played their last six competitive rounds together hyouju I'm just gonna call her h.j kim for purposes of brevity she shot uh opening 61 she went 61 69 61 came into sunday with a four shot lead over nely korta kim was chasing an LPGA scoring record of 32 under over four days she would not get there but she would win the tournament it looked like we're gonna have a little you know reminiscent of last week nely chasing her down making things interesting nely eagled the par five second she birdied the fifth and the seventh uh that got her all the way up to 25 under hyouju though uh she had a good start of her own she birdied the fourth the fifth and the seventh she got up to 28 under par and then on the eighth hole kim ran into trouble self-inflicted she doubled she dropped back to 26 under and was just one clear of nely heading to the ninth hole and then unfortunately uh nely quickly gave it away she bogey the ninth bogey the tenth her bogey on nine she missed like a little three and a half foot slider uh not the easiest putt but just indicative of some of the the short misses we've seen from nely and so after that bogey on 10 uh the the lead was back up to four shots and it really it never got tighter the rest of the way uh hyoum finished at 28 under i will say props to nely she eagled 17 birdied 18 to finish at 26 under two shots back it's actually nely's lowest four-round total of her career but it wasn't good enough today uh i will note nely bogey the 15th hole she missed like a dead straight two footer for par and so just again like she just throws in enough of these little miss putts that i don't know i'm i'm still really nervous and it just gives me pause and i feel like she's gonna the the putting's gonna be a problem at some point in a big let's just get him out of the system at the ford you know on the road to 11 i'd rather i'd rather they happen now randy than at chevron or later that's true at the us women's open or and any of these five majors that's one way to look at it um so let me just say hyouju kim this was her second win in as many starts she won the founders cup last week it's her ninth career lpga victory uh she defended her title from 2025 at the ford championship and just some stats one thing and i do want to ask you guys about this in just a second mel reed was in the booth serving as the analyst this week and mel was saying you know what hyouju is such a consistently good ball striker i mean her swing it's like a metronome it's just hard to imagine her not hitting the golf ball well and so when she puts well she can go on runs like this where she's truly one of the best players in the world and coming into sunday she led the pga lpga in putts per green in regulation at 1.66 putts per green in regulation and to go along with she's hitting 83.3 percent of her fairways and 73.6 percent of her green so it's just a really really good combination right now for for uh hyouju kim we'll see if she can keep it going next week um i'll be curious you know trying to win three weeks in a row is is certainly difficult but man she looked good this week after winning last week i do want to ask you guys about mel reed uh i think personally you know we talked a little bit last week about morgan pressell in the booth i just don't think morgan's it and i think that was reinforced listening to mel reed this week i think there is such a gulf between those two in the analyst role i think mel is somebody that just her voice like her pitch her in her inflection like not even counting the insights and i think she gives us way better insights than morgan she just enhances the telecast and so soli i know you were watching you know i don't know how much of this you caught but like soli do you feel the same way like i just feel like it's night and day like mel reed this is who the lpga needs to target with this revamped uh and strategic like rethinking of their broadcast i completely agree i think she is extremely in touch with players on tour she's just a natural she's been on the podcast a couple times and like is just very good at shooting straight helps to have an accent it really does it does it really does it really does swag though too i saw a couple of like social clips and yeah she's out there she's cool yeah and uh she's a vibe right down was really good i saw that i caught that today of nely swing um yeah i'm no no notes randy was what you said she she can be yeah she i don't know i i just think it's like dude this is so obvious so i'll be really curious how this keeps developing i hope they keep giving mel opportunities uh in the booth on the lpga tour because it is night and day let me let me talk about nely quarter then real quick um she's having well i guess this is the question how i want to take you guys i'd like for you to give me a temp check on nely's 2026 she won her first start which was in orlando at the tournament of champions which had the controversial the cut play you know kreg kesler talked about it solly when you interviewed him tough decision uh so phone him right now bring him in bring him in to talk about it for a third time maybe yeah so i think there's like a bit of like yeah nely won but it's like yeah that wasn't like an actual event and uh she skipped the whole agent swing and so she finished runner up to hj last week she finishes runner up to hj this week like she's been beaten by one woman across three tournaments i i think this is like really good signs for nely she stinks randy she stinks she cannot get it done cannot finish like she hasn't won she's still missing some shorties so i i'm just yeah i'm curious it's tough it's like it my instinct i was being sarcastic the other second but that is where my instinct goes of like what you didn't put up a fight today and you didn't put up that consistent with fight last week what happened but it's hard you're going up against you know you delete one person out of it and the one person doesn't get on like a career hot heater right now like hj kim and she wins probably wins back-to-back events and we're like oh here we go again is it's win some three stars that's the sensible i don't know or the other optimistic look is it she's looks like scottie pre-malat that's interesting and that's a big question is like on the road to 11 come on let's go we're running out of time um it's it's so hard rinnie i know this i don't want to you know trigger you more than you already are about this topic but like the stats of the lpg as we're working off of caddy estimates on putt length and everything and like it does tell a bad story about her putting this this week but it also the ball striking it also tells a story of like historically good so i'm like ah there maybe the ball striking isn't as good it is it's probably somewhere in between i don't think the putting i don't think you get to i like i don't think you physically can get to that far under par and be that negative with putting over a 72 holes but um it is it there's enough of these like putts that she misses and again a lot of her golf on television we see a lot more of that than you know when when haydan you doesn't it's not in the picture we don't see all of her misputts you know it just how it flows so it it paints a different picture and you do get a um i think if you're asking me tomorrow like to zoom out in melanchor is playing excellent golf right now if you're asking me this evening i'm still a little bit like man what the hell was that those two misputts were terrible you should have you know that that golf course should have fit you well and you should have had bad times too like a knack for those putts happening at inflection points like when it's oh what a missed opportunity two-shot swing whatever it is yeah i i'm i'm with you guys completely uh it's i i think where i net out though it's like it's really nice to see nellie knocking on the the door to win it i mean she did win in orlandos but uh after going all last year without winning it's like holy shit like this cannot continue into 2026 and it hasn't to her credit she she's playing very very good golf so i yeah i'm i'm bullish um if you will can i just go down the leaderboard real quick i don't know it's not gonna be tc but just calling out a few names here liddy co had a look at 59 on thursday morning before coverage uh and there were like no cameras out on the course friend of the pod bethane nickles bad just getting in uh jack colman's ass and i i feel bad for chack's it's like yeah i haven't been on the job too long like i know the problem yeah like this is what we're trying to fix i think that these guys are legitimately like dude no do it do it shred that will help us get things down like shred us like i can say this march didn't feel very major on the lpg for me so yeah you know and i know i'm not blaming chat or this week last week was great i thought yeah just a little bit like yeah it's just not where it needs to be though overall just like with right tv cover it you know all of them this is just don't do a good job of bringing in an american audience in january february march which are like prime golf watching months for most of this country but uh liddy co she she did not shoot 59 she ended up shooting 60 on thursday i think a bit of a rally killer solly her second and third rounds weren't great uh she did end the week at 20 under par solo fourth place so a good week for liddy co um and i just wanted to shout me me roads uh young english woman rookie this year on the lpg tour had a great year on the let last year she was tied for six this week it's her best finish of the season so just somebody to keep an eye on for folks i i think she we're gonna hear from her this year uh rose zang shot 66 today she snuck into the top 10 as a uh tied for ninth so good good result i'll remind folks rose zang 22 years old i think sometimes i feel like she's 26 27 she's 22 still so she graduated yet good things uh i don't think so officially i just i'm actually not sure what more years it should be i just if it just needs a release or come on guys i know like get a diploma get out of there uh in the tide for 34th cohort you had three big names lottie woad running yin and angel yin gino titicum finished tied for 50th i think that's completely unbecoming especially because like a birdie fest golf course is where she typically has really shown um so not a good week for gino need more from her and then the world number three charlie hall the world number six miyu yamasuda they both missed the cut that's especially damning this week um oh yeah tell them randy amateur astrix tallie she had a nice week i think she's ended up finishing tied for 29th uh good warm-up she's gonna head to augusta this randy i played 18 holes with her like uh was it three weeks ago two weeks ago like she gets the shit out of the ball man i heard she's moving it more oh my god she we on track man she's like carrying at 290 i mean she was yes i'm no no joke man it was crazy i mean we were at altitude uh it was in the desert so like the up the desert mountain like by scott stale but i mean she she hits the shit out of it uh she's super fun too i had a blast so you're in yeah she was all jacked up about going to that sage valley it's like that big junior invitational uh and i think these it's like oh i think it's 20 or 30 kid like boys 20 30 girls like nope they stay there like the parents it's like uh they all look forward to it you know like all these like just some fun non-golf just as much as the go exactly she's like yeah we just hang out it's great it's like best event of the year so uh anyway got video of that coming out in probably early may pretty cool miles russles gonna be on the bag for uh at the at the anwa which is being that yeah i could picture that like 10 years from now being the photo that we see like the jt spieth one that we see like on repeat whenever uh because i think russles on his way to to a lot of a lot of golf success so yeah this week fun week on the women's side uh obviously anwa at august that's gonna start midweek and then uh on the lpga there it's a joint lpga let event at shadow creek in vegas and i just want to if you've not watched in the years past they had a match play event at shadow creek and then last year was stroke it's an outrageous golf course and you see a lot of wild shit it's kind of like the indy event this week on the uh on the dp world tour so that's one i'm i'm very excited to watch stroke play from shadow creek next week uh that that should be a good time so it's kind of hit on the women's side one of the more boring tournaments quite honestly more boring venues of the year i like the west coast like i did like legitimately look forward to settling into watch it this evening though like after kids go down like the west coast night viewing that's just the personal phase of my life currently like i'm really enjoying the west coast i hope they end up on the west coast when they redo the schedule still in this time period so uh i got one last little segment then we'll do some odds and ends here um adam shoupak uh got a good article this week on on um golf week just asked he asked one about eight or nine guys ten guys maybe uh at august masters players or past champions what they would a design change they would make to august national i'm going to read you some of these uh if you all allow it uh harris anglish said blow the fifth green and uh blow up the fifth green and start over just say quote good for him i like that one craig saddler said to toughen it up a bit i would put two bunkers just before it bends at the par five thirteenth hole at the edge of the pine straw that would be a pretty good defense they don't have to turn the ball there anymore they hit it down the left with a little cut and carry it three ten and they're getting another 20 yards of roll they're hitting eight irons in there something like the bunkers they uh they added left of five something that you absolutely not get to the green if you hit it in there they move the teeback 40 yards there and they're still hitting six seven eight irons in so it didn't do much for them so he's saying up on the on the right on the right yeah okay yeah the outside of the dog leg yeah i don't think they're gonna do that yeah that's an interesting thought i don't think they're hitting eight irons in the air more from him coming later this week much more from the walrus coming soon uh keegan bradley i would make 13 a little shorter i might agree with keegan on this one i think introducing a little bit of temptation around that corner is is now it is just like drive it straight down there and it's probably so almost making them think should i hit three wood or driver because you're gonna or you know really run out of room or just kind of putting a little bit of thought of can i get a little bit can i cheat a little bit farther left you know i attempted to go there but now you're just not tempted nearly as much like you almost just can't so larry mey's i would take the first cut out and let the ball run i like it when we run into the pine straw way down with that one i'm sounds sounds good yeah i would find your petition larry ricky fowler i'd replace icke's tree i just think about how prominent it was visually and then not that it was intimidating but there was a presence there it'd be nice if 17 was kind of back to what that was it made that tee shot visually a lot easier yeah 17 has no identity there you go you get an andina i liked ricky's answer until he said it visually would make it a lot easier i'm like yeah i don't want that but that's a good point saw had said i know distance is becoming an issue but the new tee boxes at 11 13 and 15 seem unnecessary i know they don't want 20 under winning the masters but at 13 for instance they've taken away some of the intended design of the hole and the risk reward again to a lot of these i'd just be like well the technology is the problem here guys and 15 used to make sense as a wide hole but now it doesn't and you know put yet that's an hour long conversation uh jason day the new tee on 13 makes it way harder i don't think it's needed wrong rationale there but i don't disagree i kind of still agree that it should be up a little bit farther but you know making it hard isn't a reason not to do it rare dub for zack johnson i don't have a problem with it but i just wish i could have played against a national when there was no intermediate rough known as the first cut i don't know if it would make it easier or harder i think that's a good take i think it would make it more interesting would love to just see it again you know like let's let's watch it a masters with with no rough windham clark i'd fix the fifth hole the green was designed to have a wedge or nine iron in now we're hitting five irons to a green that slopes away from you and you can't hold gary player said nothing i mean windham's got make it a point the fifth green if you've never been there it is outrageous it's ridiculous it doesn't come through on tv maybe well that's where my question is going to be what what change would you make and i'll go first there because that's where i would start is the fifth hole is supposed to be a replica of the road hole at st andrews which you would never like that's like really exactly that's like was the original intent of the hole it's still listed on the website there if you go to the fifth hole saying it was but it was inspired by the road hole at st andrews i don't see it at all now but if it is again this one goes right to left the road hole kind of goes left to right and has a a green side bunker left of the green so if you're kind of inspired by that i think a a bunker front right like there's a bunker long of five green they're like that bunker should be in front of the green kind of to the right where if you are bailing way right you know granted they have trees and things that they make it difficult for you to bail way right you don't you can't just bail way right as it stands but you could widen that a little bit if you wanted to but if you play up the right you are going to have to navigate the bunker a lot more than if you play down the left closer to the bunker like that would be more road hole exchange of value in that you could do a bunch of cool pins around the front near that and have the angle be a little better from the left side of that fairway with some of the pins if you got creative with it that would make more sense than the fifth hole as it stands now i don't necessarily agree with mndum clark i mean rory and brison hit nine irons into that in the final round i think there's a lot of five irons going into that green still from the longer hitters but it is kind of just a messed up green and whole it just doesn't really a big yeah it's just kind of just hard for the sake of hard could be better yeah so that's kind of so yeah i will sign me petition it's a tough hole to watch too because you know a lot of times you don't see the guys on the approach like if you're sitting by the fifth green just from a viewer standpoint it's not the most exciting place to watch golf it's just it's a really difficult hole it's a striking green but like they can't even a lot of them can't even see the the ball coming into the green so like the massive elephants in that green you don't you know there's not a lot of drama there there's a lot of car wrecks but not drama it is it says on the website the hole is inspired by the legendary roll hole at the old course at st andrew's bobby jones initially disapproved of the fairway bunkers it's just a funny thing that's on the on the augusta website for the life i mean i can't figure out how it's inspired by the road hole but i guess i think another you'd have to go way back to the origin and i don't have the image in front of me uh yeah but anyways rena what would your change be thought about i feel like this one's kind of a common one something to do at number three and just making it more of a true like risk reward drivable part four but that's not my answer i'm not i'm not going there going tc here you know i've long had issues with the 16th hole and so let me present this this adjustment and see if you guys like it i would i've thought long and hard about this i think i would get rid of the bunker on the left side of the green and kind of make that sloping all into the water to where if you're gonna go you know if you're gonna be aggressive and and you know be left of that ridge or get at that pin you know that kind of that back pin i don't want the bunker there as a catch basin and almost a safety outlet for shots i want i want real severe damage if you miss the green left and so that way i think a lot more guys are going to play further right up up the ridge missing right and when that pins down at the bottom it's just a lot trickier of a hole and i think it rewards the shots that do catch the ridge that do funnel down um that they would be more meaningful to me so i i suggest getting rid of that bunker left of 16 green i think that's that's a great answer i was sniffing around 16 as well i would shrink the lake bring the the crowd closer in make the make the the the patreons right on top of uh because i don't like ponds ponds are on becoming creeks are better yeah you know i think that used to be a creek i i just always found that pond to be just a little bit of like ah man like it's a cool environment obviously a lot of action happens there but i just would like to make the pond smaller i think is where i would go with that one of the greatest pieces of media golf media ever put together and i'm we can link in the show notes is golf digest a comprehensive list of changes made to august national and i i look at it every year here exactly so the green used to there was a creek there and the green used to actually sit left of that creek and it was moved in 1948 by robert trend jones uh to the right and and that formed a pond and that bunker wasn't there in 1948 randy they put the bunker in in 1949 uh because he raised the height of the back terrace added a tiny third bunker on the left he also dammed and piped underground a stream that had previously split the t-box blah blah blah uh and there's all kinds i mean the it's evolved a lot over the years kind of the shape of that the shape of that green and the moes and all that stuff but anyways i love a creek splitting a t-box is cool i mean so you know my answer is is 17 but i'm not i won't i won't go there i was going there um randy i'm interested you don't like three i think three is a great hole no no i like three i just wish it was more it seems like nobody can actually get there with driver i just yeah i feel like we talk about every year like almost make it more reachable um so it's more risk or more reward i i don't know what i the 11th hole i i i wish it was it's it's an awesome hole but it's like something's missing for to it for me like it's just like guys are bailing out so much to the right it's like should they just shorten it so they i don't know like again introduce the the risk of um or i don't know let them maybe even like let them blow it farther right so they can get an angle to like tempt them into you know taking on the green a little bit more so they almost have more of a square angle and then you'd see more ball i just want to see more balls go in the water on the left on 11 and i don't know what the answer for that is but like the trees they took out like they they took out a bunch of trees down the right and they have been doing okay i it's well last year i just when i was there i just didn't feel like i saw a whole lot of of it is just bail out it's bail out city every year it's like everybody's so scared to take on that green and i'm like i don't i'm not you know golf architecture guy to know what how to i don't know tempt them to do it more yeah um so in in 20 again this from that article in 2022 they did um to to adjust the tree line on the right side to discourage competitors from intentionally bailing out to the right pine straw for a better angle to the green so now you can't go as far right you see able to drive it like you know do the tiger go way right uh and he had like the that angle and we was sitting off the kitty litter but i guess that's what i'm saying i almost want that back i want more exciting approach shots into 11 and so if that makes the hole easier i'm cool with that but like when was the last i can't think of a time when a guy the guys have gone into the water like Ludwig like short like come up short but there's nobody's like running over the back or falling off like in the middle left of that green anymore and i think it's because it just doesn't make sense to even take it on when you hit the fairway there and it's like maybe maybe they just seem like adjust the angle of the hole and that could be very stupid but that's i want except 11 should have more excitement than it does i guess is what i'm trying to say well if you'll allow me you know i'll pull this up again and put on the screen like look at the angle of the hole in 1934 like it used to dog leg to the right like that was with a centerline bunker and now like you would you advance ahead to 2022 it's like a straight hole now yeah i think that's maybe what i'm what i'm getting at it it i like that it's very difficult it's just kind of a boring difficult and um that's like five magical place on the course it'd be cool if there was a little i remember sitting in that grandstand on i think saturday the one like next to 11 green and it was like and you're watching 12 it's just not a lot of like exciting stuff was happening coming down the hill on 11 because it's just okay we're gonna see him you know and yeah some good do some good shots from the moguls on the right there but not um not anybody flagging it or getting their hand in the cookie jar five and 11 go in that category of like they're kind of just hard for the sake of hard because you know the golf course kind of got easy you know that's kind of kind of it so a lot of like nondescript bogies i almost wonder if you could instead of like connecting to raise creek behind the green almost run a creek in front of 11 which i think they use i'm reading the master's website said prior to 1950 raise creek ran in front of the 11th green and almost like wrapping around the back side of 11 like the right side as you look at it to raise creek just to make that bail out more like interesting i guess or thoughtful i don't know it looks like it used to just kind of run like it wasn't a pond it just kind of ran like split and ran a little a little left a little left of the green if you can see that there okay so it never truly like came across across all right i'm telling you this this this article is just amazing to flip through um and you do wonder if they'll ever you know if a restoration of any kind is ever in the cards like a lot of 11 would be a whole little bit change greatly if they did so yeah as i try to land the plane here couple final things uh the rory master's documentary is out uh probably if you're listening to this now it's out sometime on monday the march 30th i did get a chance to watch a screener of this one it's good it's a good documentary it's it's fun it's a it's a lot like the chronicles of a champion that you see on the open championship stuff um you know little over an hour long interviews with the champion talking about emotions and look back on the childhood definitely learn some stuff specifics about rory's childhood and and what his upcoming was like um you know directly from the sources on it it is uh it's fast for a documentary to come out you know less than a year after the event that happened but there is there's some good vulnerability in there from rory on like how in uh i'm not spoiling anything uh here if you if you plan to watch it but just how you know how augusta was in his head like very clearly uh it is um it it it's it's it is definitely a weird vibe though of having it be produced by rory's production company and it's every documentary now it is it it's weird there's no like it's it it's maybe we're just using the phrase documentary uh a little a little too loosely now because jack is in it but there's no other you know player or peers really in it uh in any way and and and not a lot of talking heads and not a lot of you know voices it's it's it's a lot of rory's dad rory's mom rory um and a little bit of jack in there kind of narrating it and and talking about some things but it um it i can you believe i don't know if it needed to come out this soon um but it's worth your time like it's worth watching it's not going to blow you away it's not like amazing thing but i think it just a weird thing to kind of be in such a rush rush to get this out this quickly but um i get the time i mean i guess the timing makes sense of with with the masters well yeah but i mean less than a just like it you know it's just quick like it we haven't forgot about this you know and they didn't they didn't have the shot into 17 in it in the maybe in the maybe they changed but the the approach how he hits into 17 in regulation was not in it for some reason um but you know obviously you don't get a look into augustin national like this uh you know uh a next amazon has coverage now of the masters that's why this likely exists uh but you get you know right you know rights to footage and stuff from the masters is not something we've seen outside of things that augusta has produced the you know obviously there's the the espn shark documentary that they did which i think was probably that was stronger than than this one i think is just because there's not you know this this happened the what made the shark one really interesting is the guy never got one right right what makes this one less interesting is now this exists because he finally gets one you know it would have been a bit more interesting last year of like what the document you know the journey is like to try to get one of these but uh anyways it's it's worth your time it's worth watching and funding this i mean this feels like one truly for the rory fans right like just live it all again which is great like those things should exist i remember i bought phil's book you know one magical sunday why winning is and everything after he won the masters it's like you just want to really live it all yeah buy your world series shirts right yeah the the old like sports illustrator hey her team just won the title here's your commemorative video yeah i'm not ready to watch any of it sorry i don't know just want to remember it in your head i kind of yes seriously i haven't watched the broadcast so i'm just i feel like that would spoil it for me i'm gonna abstain at this moment uh any housekeeping updates you want to give us neil yeah we got uh some good stuff in the pro shop right now we've got a good hat sale going on if you navigate to the buy more save more collection on the top navigation bar you know it's gonna be an adventure but i more save more i didn't come up with this one we got a bunch of hats on sale so those hats in that collection if you buy two or more you save an additional 250 on each hat and these are auto discounts randy they'll just they'll trigger on their own okay love to load them up in the cart if you buy five or more hats on sale you can add additional five dollars off all five of the five or more of those hats and these hats are already we're trying to these are priced to move randy okay we had we had a lot of good hats in there but we just have a lot of them and we're trying to try to clean out we're doing a little spring spring cleaning so there's some good gorilla blown up on the on the right now to move maybe let's go so get in there uh you can stack your nest code uh with with the the auto discount sale hit and then you can plug in your nest code come on man you know i don't like doing sales randy but you know i do like when people take advantage of sales that makes me happy so good take advantage of that store.no-laying-up.com we've also got the holder in a some born spring collection there we got some new row back apparel in there and a first major themed apparel some fun t-shirts uh some some green some yellows you know you you kind of you figure out what the first major collection's all about randy okay store.no-laying-up.com solid what do we have to get on the uh guys that call it yeah for sure we everybody knows the drill come on uh what's what's going on the nlupod uh we did a best masters draft this past week uh which was a lot of fun um some controversy not really controversy some some faux controversy uh come from some bizarre unhinged uh stuff coming from the mouth of tc this week stop the steal man really yeah the best one of the best comments i saw this week was tc could still win if mike pence has the courage to do what's right go back and listen to that that we've got a lot of feedback from that one that was uh a lot of fun uh tc did not win i'm just spoiled that part of it uh and i got potentially a couple masters uh appetizers coming this coming week at least one potentially almost certainly two uh masters appetizers coming this coming week of course as we turn the page over to the first major of the year. Randy what about the trap draw what's cooking? Well listen baseball's back opening day last thursday happy opening day to all those who celebrate the seamsters were talking ball we uh we quickly covered every team we did a draft where we all picked uh we drafted all 30 teams and then chose whether we wanted to go over or under their their total wins so it was a good vehicle to talk a little bit about each club we settled on some of our favorites there were some disagreements uh just just a good time good to be talking ball again good to have baseball back had a little challenge just a minute which i thought was great i'm loving it you guys didn't ask me how the the ring ceremony was for my schwanzes went in the fantasy baseball league last year we had a great opening day ceremony we didn't know if you were invited to that we thought that might just be gary no well that's my gm and you know what he got a nice fat bonus uh everybody's happy uh things are great in in on the on the schwanzes good yeah and he picks that you're regretting from your draft so far randy i well i wish i would have picked up a closer thanks for asking solid no i meant for the for the seamsters draft oh yeah i think dj was a scumbag for putting the reds first on the board and i was too chicken to challenge him i i should have gone over on the reds i i do think they're gonna be at least a 500 ball club how about you i don't think i regret anything just yet um yeah no i mean maybe the cubs that's that's the one projection it's not looking so good i think go horder getting paid got a lot of money she's no trade clause too hey big news in a couple weeks big special project coming out on the uh on the trap draw a project on you coming back at you i think we'll put that out master's week so look out for that dj and i i spent a lot of time doing dumb research which i'm really excited about yeah good good stuff what what's you guys chopping this week randy yeah tc and i are chopping and then i think after that will be the project on you with with you and dj yeah uh and then i think while we're golfs returning on youtube this week uh this week or never i think it's this week uh two part while we're we're we're changing it up a little bit okay i think i was gonna say get out ahead of this yeah randy couldn't make the trip with us uh so it's a little bit different but in the spirit of kind of spoofing a uh a broadcast we're spoofing a show so i'm i'm really looking forward to uh the feedback on this one there'll be a lot of like these guys have changed i can't believe they messed with this format don't worry we'll bring that back to uh but this i think this is gonna be a good one two-part series i think wednesday thursday this week look out for wild world of golf yeah and please people i beg of you it's a bit like we're just weird this is a this is a bit i beg of you not not not what you're saying the video the remote keys and go okay so it is a bit all right we're having fun with with uh with this format and it was a lot of fun i'm excited about it i'm excited to watch because as you said me don't know it i wasn't on the trip i was on the paternity uh pga tour this week the laro uh on the lpga tour as mentioned the aramco championship le p lpga let colab uh cornfairy tour is off to lakewood national for the lee com suncoast classic dp and world tour and live are off until after the masters augustin national women's amateur begins wednesday rounds one and two at champions retreat then on to augustin national on saturday after a practice round on friday anything else before we go guys randy i told you'd be less than two hours we barely got it under the gun this thank you everyone for tuning in uh look forward to uh we'll see you back here this week and almost major season we're almost here crack on cheers