Ep. 143: We’re Building Another House!! (Q&A)

Hello and welcome to the Emmits for Mama podcast. I'm your host Abby Halberstadt, happy wife, mom of the 10 Bible believing Christian. And I have a really fun announcement and I'm answering a lot of your questions about that announcement because I've already talked about it on social media about a development in our family's story. But before I dive into that, I want to highlight our podcast sponsor, Voteburg Music Academy. You guys know that Voteburg is such a fun way for your students who want to learn music and instruments like guitar, mandolin, fiddle, piano, and ukulele to do those lessons at home so that you can take the commute off your to-do list completely and also to do it affordably. Private music lessons can be really expensive but your students will have 24 hour access to their instructors and they'll have such a fun way of being motivated to keep going without you're having to nag them to do their lessons. They can even get badges mailed to their door physical badges that your kid gets to get from the mailbox for things that they achieve in the Voteburg challenges. And you can use my code MSF Mama 20 for 20% off each month that you're enrolled and share those lessons between siblings. So it's as little as $30 a month for all of your lessons. If this sounds like something interesting to you, you should check them out at voteburg musicacademy.com and don't forget to use that code MSFMama20 at checkout. Okay, so I wanted to do a little caveat because normally I would just go right into the meat of the show that I've already recorded but something has developed since I recorded the show and just recorded that intro and that is that I mentioned the news which is that our family is doing a third family build this year. We have actually bought some acreage that we're going to be building on that's about 15 minutes from where we currently live and I'll answer all the questions that are rising in your mind if this is brand new information for you. But I mentioned that there is builder that we weren't even looking for but that was suggested to us because a neighbor had used him and loved him and it seemed that he was the ideal person to help with this build so that it wouldn't be a completely DIY project like before. We have a lot of things on our plate. It seemed like a God ordained solution to something that would help this build to be less stressful than the last two have been and we were really excited about it and again it wasn't even something we were looking for but since I recorded that show and now we've since found out that right before the builder was going to sign a contract with us he had a relative come in and say that she wanted him to build a house for her and he is going to do that instead and I think that it's really easy when you experience a disappointment like that where it's like oh Lord you provided this thing and I didn't even know about it. I wasn't even looking for it and amazing that you would care for the details of my life like this and then that thing kind of the rug gets pulled out from underneath you to feel like like why Lord why I was I was okay with how difficult it was going to be and then it seemed like it was going to be easier and now we're back to difficult and why does it have to be this way? I think there's a lot of examples of this women that are struggling with fertility and finally get pregnant and experience miscarriage which obviously is a much more heart-wrenching and I know this from personal experience with miscarriage myself but heart-wrenching experience than losing you know an ideal builder on a house project or people who women who believe that their husbands are coming home from deployment and then they find out they've got another six months and you know just the let down and the emotions that come with it and we know from the Psalms that the Lord is not scared of our disappointment that when David pours out his heart like Lord why did this happen and why is this not going the way that I would like it to that that's not an affront to God and his holiness and his providence however it matters very much what we do with it and whether we say stuck in the you know but this would have been better and this looked ideal and this didn't work out and I'm better now you know because bitterness is a completely different thing than disappointment. Disappointment can often lead to bitterness if we allow it to continue down the road of constant questioning and resentment and frustration but whereas the Lord can handle our disappointment absolutely when we have an open-handed response of okay the Lord gives the Lord takes away blessed be the name of the Lord and I am interested to see what you do next with this and I already I mean having this guy consult on our build which has some unique terrain issues that I'll talk about more when the show gets going having him give feedback on where we want to build has already been valuable. We didn't have access to that kind of expertise and the fact that he has the the knowledge that he that he does and he can and the experience that he does and could say hey this would be a great place to build you're not crazy for wanting to build on this hill already has value the fact that he's able to give us some pointers in other areas yes we have experience with building but we will all also always take you know feedback from seasoned veterans who are really good at what they do also has value the fact that he can't do the build for us a bummed I'm not gonna lie but I have no doubt that the Lord really will work all things together including this circumstance that is you know shifted pretty quickly for the good of our family we love him we are called a coordinator to his purpose and anyway I just wanted to kind of have that in there because I know that there are lots of disappointments in your life as well as mine that come along that would be easy to kind of shake our fist at God and say but but it was going so well but it was going to be ideal why couldn't you just leave it alone and instead say Lord what are you gonna do through this show me your ways even though my way seems like it would have been better so hopefully that can be in your mind as you listen to this FAQ answer session about our new house build so if you are subscribed to my newsletter and if you're not I highly recommend that you do I'll put the link to do that in the show notes or you follow me on social media then you know that our family has some really fun news and if you're not then this will be new news for you and that is that we have bought some acreage about 50 minutes from our current property and we will be building on it Lord willing over the next year and then moving into that house and selling our current house um I put a box up on social media when I first shared this news and had a bunch of questions not surprisingly at all about the new build about the reason behind doing this um about how it came to be and so I thought I would dedicate an entire podcast episode to that because that's the easiest way for me to get all that information out in long form um so we were not looking to move or build again uh just a quick backstory for those who have not been here as long those of you that have and know all of this can take a short nap um we bought our first house okay so backing up even more than that Sean bought his first house he was just he's a very business minded entrepreneurial sort always has been since he was a teenager his parents always joked that he was more of an adult than they were um and he bought his first house for a steal I don't know exactly what age I would have to ask him but in his early 20s when he had just graduated from college I believe and um or it may be that he had it during college because I know he had his brothers as roommates so he bought this house and then he we started dating a couple of years later um like I said I haven't verified this timeline nor will you guys know the difference if I do have it a little bit off so we're just gonna go with that and um he sold the house when we got engaged and he moved into my parents third story dormer we lived I lived at the time in the second floor of my parents house that we had renovated ourselves many years before which is my mom's house where she grew up and it belonged to my grandmother before are you just lost as can be because this is way more information than you actually need but it's kind of all relevant so Sean sold that house for a profit and um put that money aside for a house for us and we lived in my parents second floor and third story dormer while we were engaged and during that time we went house hunting and we found a house on a one acre plot in a subdivision for a really good deal it was a new build but it was a very very reasonable price and that was our first house uh about a year into that we had Ezra and he was born about a week before our first anniversary and about let's see nine months um after that we got pregnant with Simon nine months later he's born so we have lived at this house for about two and a half years and Sean got this idea to do a DIY build um I I didn't think it was crazy I mean as I said we had renovated our house my family had done a lot of work on adding on to my grandmother's house my mom's house that she grew up in and so I was familiar with the concept admittedly I hadn't done much of the actual work myself but I was like yeah sure we could we could do that and my husband um grew up learning construction from his dad who owned his own construction company and his dad is very skilled at all aspects of building including electrical and plumbing framing I mean everything you name the task his dad has done it and Sean's done a lot of it with him so I was like you're really handy you're really good at business you're really good at planning things he's very detailed let's do it so we moved back in with my parents for about 10 months at this point we have two little boys a two-year-old and a six-month-old and we spent that time building our first DIY house I sourced everything Sean built everything I mean I definitely filled nail holes and painted and you know cocked and did everything that was you know my pay grade level of expertise but I did a whole lot of sourcing I mean um anything appliance or fixture or paint color or trim or anything like that I windows I went around and found so that was our first experience with building a house together and we did 95 to 98 percent of the work ourselves moved in after about nine months it wasn't finished and then we lived there for about five years did in addition to that house lived there for another I may get my timing off on this but again y'all y'all won't know to be able to check me but lived there for another five years ish four to five years I think and decided we were going to do another DIY build and that was really Sean I was like man you're crazy don't you remember how much work it was the first time and he was like we can do this and he looks at houses and I have come to see them this way as an investment so if you can put sweat equity in on the front end or get a good deal on a house that he bought like he did when he was in his 20s and then a good deal on the house that we bought together as our first house and then flip it and sell it for more than you paid that's a great way of getting money that you can then invest into another build or rental properties which is something that we have done since early in our marriage and Sean again very very business minded very good at all things numbers and logistics has been really faithful to find ways to supplement our income by doing that so he's like you know we built this first house for $50 a square foot and we obviously could sell it for more than that however many years eight to ten years later because the market value even at the time we built it was much higher than $50 a square foot obviously and then ten years later was quite a bit higher and we could build again and I'm like okay so that build ended up being two years long and was a more complicated build our first one was basically a rectangular box you know very very simple layout and this one has you know more cuts to the roof line and a more interesting floor plan and things like that so that was a longer build we did I would say I mean structurally we still did 95% of the work some of the finishing things like trim and paint and stairs we actually subbed out sheetrock on that one some of those things we did sub more but for the most part we did most of it ourselves and again that's a huge investment of sweat equity if we were to ever sell this house again so one thing that I found really interesting now that I've got all that background out of the way one one thing that I found really interesting was that people were one shocked that we would sell this house and consider building again and two almost offended like that's probably too strong of a war but like people were like what why would you do this and what are you thinking and and like kind of explain your process of how you came to this conclusion because your house is already great and it is I have no objections to that claim at all I agree with it I think especially people were shocked because we had a house flood a couple of years ago and it forced us to renovate our kitchen we were not planning on renovating our kitchen our kitchen was fine it was great but it ruined our floors it ruined our cabinets and we ended up and it ruined our baseboards and the mold room remediation crew came in and cut holes and everything so we ended up having to completely redo everything and when we did that we didn't have resale in mind but obviously if we were ever to sell then we wanted to make sure we made decisions like for example the first time we did concrete countertops poured in place by Sean and they were really cool and they looked really cool but they also tended to stain and crack which was wouldn't have been as good for resale so the second time when we were forced to do renovation we put quartz in just some little tweaks like that that were for us should we live there forever or they were for someone else should we ever sell we also put in a sport court again with no intention of selling this anytime soon if ever beside our house which was another DIY endeavor that Sean and my older boys and his dad and some like homeschool friends of ours came together and put up over the course of three months two summers ago so I guess it would be the summer of 2024 and so obviously we haven't had it for very long it is a fantastic place to play pickleball and basketball we have people over all the time our family goes out out there all the time we've had our homeschool basketball league practice there like it's a great resource and we absolutely use it like crazy and love it so people are like okay you just had to renovate your kitchen and you have this sport court what are you thinking leaving all of that well again going way back to that long intro that I gave we have always thought of houses in terms of investments and not something that we're going to necessarily plant ourselves in forever and never entertain the idea of leaving if Sean weren't the way that he is in terms of thinking strategically with houses and real estate and business things I probably would be more likely to just settle somewhere and stay there however I am not a very sentimental personality so even if I were settling somewhere and staying there it wouldn't be necessarily because I had become so attached to this place or my furniture or things like that that I couldn't leave I just I don't love change just for the sake of change there needs to be a really good reason behind it thankfully my husband comes up with really good reasons for those things and I enjoy doing projects with him I enjoy the design process now yes it's a lot of work and there are stressful aspects of it and especially when you have a lot of other things going on it's you know it can be less or more fun for example when I had to make decisions for the renovation for the kitchen it was not the most fun process because we were in the middle of living in a rental I was having some back issues health issues just kind of trying to go back and forth between this house and the rental house and the baby the babies we call them the babies the twinbies were much younger and just needed a lot of attention and care homeschooling I was releasing a book like there was just there's still a lot going on in my life but there there were a lot of stressors that made that process very much so utilitarian so the short answer after that really long setup is that we would consider leaving all of this because since we've put in so much sweat equity both in the sport court in the house itself we would be able to recoup our money and then some quite a bit when we sell it because the market value again after having limited it when in our projected move out date which is about a year from now or a year and you know some change we will have lived here for 10 years so the market has become increasingly more competitive over the last 10 years especially with a lot of people we live in Texas in case anyone doesn't know in east Texas in a really sought after area and the town that we live in the acreage is like there's not a ton of it available and people snap it up when it is available so I have no idea what will happen with our house sale in the in the future but lord willing it will be something that someone will be very excited to have because it's a great property it's a great house and it's a great setup with the sport court so thinking of it just practically that way it absolutely makes sense to think of this house as an investment but again that was not the plan I will say this whenever people talk about their forever home I don't think wow that's a super unethical way of thinking about things I really don't um I understand what they mean they mean they intend to stay there forever however I tend to not use that phrase because my forever home is in heaven and if that sounds really pious it's still what I actually believe like my forever home is with Jesus in glory and so I want to have an open-handed approach to any structures I live in here on earth either because I'm we're stewarding our finance as well to take care of our family or because the lord might ask us to move to a different state or a different country or because you know just something could happen and I'm not guaranteed this house and I don't want to live with the expectation that I'm guaranteed this or any other house so and again when I say something could happen that's not something that's like sitting in the back of my mind where I'm living in fear that I shouldn't be content with my house because it could burn down or um I don't know it could flood haha been there done that um because literally 90 percent of the downstairs flooded so that was a whole whole thing um so we probably for someone who is very attached either because of family ties or just sentimental value or they just really don't like change or um their home is just similar they love to be and they have all these memories connected to it which I have memories here that is definitely true for us they're probably not going to relate to a more pragmatic mindset about a house as an investment but that's very much so how Sean and I think we can both really enjoy this space and be so content and grateful for it and also look at it as a way of providing for our family which is how we're thinking that said I have to circle right back around to we weren't thinking that at all but six ish years ago Sean um got connected with a builder and a real estate agent in pigeon forage Tennessee which is somewhere that he had we had visited and he started a partnership with them to build a rental cabin there again he is always thinking in terms of how to um wisely invest money that we have instead of just having it sit in the bank and since it was a long term partnership there were some you know there were some wrinkles and bumps and hiccups and over time it has it has morphed into various things um and I think there were times that I was like I don't know if this is ever going to come to fruition because six years is a long time to get a cabin built but all of the pieces have gradually at some point or another moved toward the completion of the cabin and the sale of it which happened finally last December so December of 2025 so there's something called a 1031 tax exchange that is basically a tax credit that you get as long as you roll that money into another property another piece of real estate if you don't find another piece of real estate to invest in within a certain time period you just have to pay those taxes so basically it's encouraging you to keep investing your money so obviously you want to use that tax credit if you can um it doesn't necessarily mean that something's going to pop up that's a great investment because you don't just want to throw it into something that would be a bad investment obviously so Sean was checking out his options and you do have a fairly small window I don't remember the amount of days that it is but it's a fairly small window in which you have to make a decision and some people will already be um researching investments as they have a sale looming and Sean's done that before but he didn't have anything lined up this time so he spent a while looking for a real estate investment and wasn't finding anything that he loved and so unbeknownst to me he's looking at properties around here and I don't even know exactly how it transpired but one day he's like hey I found some acreage that we might be able to use the tax exchange on and I just want to have you take a look so I was like okay I don't even know what these are for exactly and I go out with him in the car and look at one and he tells me you know we could potentially build out here and um you know sell the other house and use that money for an investment you know just kind of thinking like he does and I really didn't like the land at all I was like pass I just and he loves it when I have a strong reaction to one of his suggestions um so if somebody's like goodness way to be negative Abby he would much prefer that I have like a visceral response either negative or positive because it helps him to make a decision and he very much so is the type of person that comes to me with all of his decisions he wants to talk them through he trusts my input he wants my feedback um sometimes I tease him because he'll come back like multiple times and be like hey I know we talked about this but what do you think about it now I'm like same thing as I thought about it before um but sometimes he'll present me with more because usually if he comes back around he's like what do you think now it's because something has changed or he has thought of a different angle and he'll be like okay but if you took this into account would you have a different opinion I'm like okay maybe yeah so the fact that I was like immediately know to this one piece of land he was like okay cross it off the list great that makes my life easier but of course now we're down to one property I think we were pretty much at the end of our potential time period in which we could use this tax exchange money and he's like this one's going to take some more vision I don't know if you'll like it but we're just going to go look at it guys I liked it immediately I mean I I'm not the best I can I can design an entire room in my head down to what the light switch plate is going to look like I kid you not but I have trouble picturing property with you know the topography changed by dirt work and clearing of trees and um things like that Sean's really good at that in fact he's good at the actual dirt work and clearing of the land itself he does a lot of that but I struggle to envision what it will be and so he's painting these pictures for me and sometimes I can kind of see it but in this case I could see it I it has the land is 35 acres it's actually closer to everything that we do it's close to our church it's close to our homeschool co-op it's closer to my gym it's closer to where we play pickleball with friends it's actually very very close to where we play play pickleball with friends um it's closer to multiple of our friends houses that we spend a lot of time with it's the exact same amount of distance from my family's house which my mom comes over two days a week to help out with anything that needs helping out with and so not being farther away from her is great it's just a really ideal location we were pretty shocked that there was even the possibility of 35 acres with a better location as much better of a location as it was um and so we walked it prayed over it talked about it I don't get instantly excited about land usually but man I you know and I'm not a good vibes girl but I really really got excited about this land which makes Sean very excited because he's the one that gets excited about the land and then if I show interest he's like you know oh buddy here we go so we kind of walked for about an hour and dreamed about a variety of things and then we came home and Sean was like I want the kids to see it so we went back around dusk and I actually have an instagram post and nobody knew where we were or what we were doing but it was like our family tromping around and leaves this is back in January I think and then this really amazing sunset view so it has some elevation and there's an incline oh that's the right word there's a hill um and if you tromp up that hill and stare out over the trees you can see like layers of trees and it's very rolling hills we live in east Texas and if you're not familiar with east Texas it is very hilly very green verdant I mean it's very lush especially right now I'm looking out my window at beautiful trees in the springtime and people don't really realize that they think of west Texas and they think of like flat dry brown tumbleweeds you know oil derricks that kind of thing but it's very different here and so it was an amazing view in fact I someone on social media was like that cannot possibly be Texas and I was like it is so having being able to build a house on that incline if we can pull it off would be really cool the views would be really cool and again keep in mind that we have this house that we've put tons of sweat equity into that we can make a profit on and um so that helps with building the next house which is what's happened each time the profit from the original house has helped with the next house has helped with the next house so this will be house number I mean if you count Sean's original one this will be number five I believe um and I know some people that move every year like they're like I've been married for 20 years and we've lived in 11 different houses so not not quite that but um so we started talking with the kids about another DOI build whether that was something they'd be interested in because we really wanted their feedback we didn't want it to just be us they participated in the last build but considering that was 10 years ago obviously with my oldest being 19 now almost 20 he was only nine 10 years old during that process and everybody else was either not alive yet or much younger and there's only so much that they can help so this time there will be an opportunity for significant contribution both in like their preferences about their rooms and the layout and then also with um you know many more hands available to paint and caulk and spackle and build and having the older boys getting building experience is a really fun concept so we prayed about it a ton and talked about it with them and they were so excited we did not expect them to be as enthusiastic because they love this house that we're in this has a ton of memories this is where some of them are born it's where actually that's technically not true Shiloh was going to be born here but he ended up being born in a birth center um but we did bring him home like three hours after he was born so he was he was pretty fresh um and then we had the Twimby's in a hospital but we brought them back here obviously and um this is all a lot of them have ever known or can remember so we didn't know if they would be like no we don't want to leave this you know we like where we are but universally all of them you know and the Twimby's just got excited because everybody else was excited but everybody was really really excited so that was very uh encouraging and confirming that this was something that we could all get behind as a family and so we started pursuing the actual process of making an offer um and that was a bit of a rocky process um the land is part of an estate and the children and the grandchildren of the man who owned it and then died I don't know how long ago um we're kind of um a little hard to work with and we're definitely wanting more than its market value but thankfully I have a husband who pays attention to detail I know I keep bragging on him but this is this is where he shines I mean he shines in lots of areas he's he's a Renaissance man truly but um he is just really really good at doing his due diligence and so he went around and found as many comms as he could he talked to developers in the area to get their opinion on the land should they be interested um and like pros and cons of the pricing and the location all that and he was able to come back to them with a very convincing reason why their price was too high and um was working up all of these scenarios financially and otherwise for the right way to go forward and the right price to pay and of course we were praying about it a ton and I just really felt peace either way I felt like I was holding it appropriately loosely if we stayed here great obviously no complaints I you know but I didn't want to get excited about a project and then feel a great deal disappointed because we quote had to stay here I mean again I know people are like oh yeah poor you Abbie having to say there but I think even anybody that's thinking that way has probably been in a situation in their life where they get excited about something and then it falls through and even though the thing that they still have is wonderful and you're content there's a there's a smidge of you know like no cell just not the right word but feeling like oh something slipped through my fingers and I didn't want to feel that way so I was just praying that the Lord would give me complete peace either way and I had it I felt like if we walked or if they wouldn't negotiate on the price and come down to a reasonable one um that you know we tried and we dreamed as a family and that's okay there might be another opportunity in the future or we might just be being called by God to be content here and then if we got it I was really excited about the prospect of designing about the prospect of involving my children about a whole list of other prospects that were not even close to to getting to yet should they ever come to be um and I think Sean mostly felt the same way so it kind of seemed like they weren't going to budge and then and Sean had a number in his head and then it kind of felt miraculous because they went from not budging and or saying you know what I think we're going to raise the price you know you know why don't think we're charging enough to coming down to the exact price that Sean um really felt like was where he wanted them to come down to so that was another confirmation and we felt a great deal of peace and just going forward with it assuming that it would completely go through and it has like there haven't been any any problems since so that brings us all the way to all of the questions about logistics that we've been asked um one is how much of the work we'll do ourselves that is very much so up in the air we actually just met with a builder who was recommended to us by a neighbor that said he's the best of the best absolutely loves him he's reasonably priced he's a man of integrity he's a Christian he has tons of experience it turns out with building on elevation because he used to work in Colorado he has an architectural degree he just has a lot of expertise that builders in this area don't have because the terrain for this particular build would be quite different most east Texas builds which are built on flat areas which makes sense um so that kind of came out of nowhere the neighbor was just Sean was just talking to him about this and he was like hey check out this guy he's amazing so Sean and he just walked the property last weekend by the time you listen to this it won't be last weekend because I think this is coming out several weeks later than I'm recording it um but Sean really liked him said he really knew his stuff he's an older man but super spry and energetic and knowledgeable and already has told us that he thinks that it's very doable to build the house on the terrain that we want to for the view um and that you know I was afraid he was going to say it was it's just going to be you know astronomically more expensive twice the price or something he's like no it's it's doable like this is something we can do and I have I have the knowledge I have the engineers I have the anybody that you need um he also has groups of people that work with him subcontractors that work with him that he has handpicked and worked with through the years to have integrity and good quality work for not astronomical prices because there's a lot of shady stuff that goes on that's part of the reason if saving money 100% has been the reason that we have done the DIY stuff in the past um and would be the reason we would do it again in the future um because it it does save you so much money and otherwise we would not have been able to build the houses that we've built but there's also an an aspect of no one is going to build your house with the same level of care and attention to detail and um just you know carefulness that someone who is going to live there and own it will and so I mean that would include this guy because he's not going to live there and own it but he seems like he really cares about doing an excellent job and making sure that it is well done so that's exciting we don't know if we would just hand him the reins and have him build everything we will do some things like we are going to another follow-up question was what about your sport court because we built that sport court ourselves and it is worth so much more than the materials and the sweat equity that we put into it when we sell it we will be able to build another one eventually um and that is the plan we have I mean we thought we would get a lot of use out of it but I think we've honestly gotten way more use out of it I mean sometimes an idea is great in your head and then the actual application of it is that you just don't use it as much as you think that you will that's definitely happened in every house that we've lived in that something is like oh man this is going to be the best and you're like it was fine but it wasn't like my best idea ever that sport court was our best idea ever it has been such a blessing to us and our community so we definitely plan on doing that again so that will not be a complete loss and even if it were a loss as much as it's not looking like it will be even if we weren't able to build another sport court as we anticipate that we will be able to I want all of this to be held as loosely as possible so that the goal I mean as you know it may sound too spiritual because it's such a concrete thing to build a house but that you know whether you eat or drink or whatever you do including building a house that you do it all at the glory of God so hopefully we'll be able to build that sport court again and accomplish this work together as a family in a way that glorifies God and serves our family well and serves our community well and allows us to continue in hospitality and I don't know I just want the goal to be that we're not looking back and wishing for what we have but instead looking forward to how this can be used um for good in the future and I mean not it's I think for our good um I think there's that that you're starting with I mean the idea of being others minded is absolutely in there but to um be something that could help our family continue to grow whatever that looks like so I think that mostly wraps up the questions that I had um I will be continuing to answer questions and what do you want to know Wednesday form as they trickle in I am having a blast doing flea market shopping and Facebook marketplace finds and I've even started looking at paint color schemes and trying to figure out some really special um unique kind of nooks and crannies and quirky details that we can add to give the home a lot of character so if you want to follow along I'll be sharing a lot of that on social media I know not everybody that listens or watches the podcast is on social media but that's where I will mainly share that kind of thing if you want to be updated there but I'll be sure to check in on the podcast as well and I appreciate you guys rooting for us and I hope you'll enjoy following along with the journey. 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