A Conversation About Golf & Other Things with Shane Bacon
76 min
•Apr 22, 2026about 1 month agoSummary
Shane Bacon joins Andy and PJ for a wide-ranging conversation about golf, covering Shane's recent trip to St. Andrews where he played the Old Course in reverse, the controversial Zurich Classic field, and various PGA Tour and women's golf updates including the Chevron Championship's move to Memorial Park.
Insights
- The Old Course plays significantly better in reverse, particularly holes 12-18, suggesting course design and routing decisions have major impacts on playability and strategy
- The Zurich Classic field quality has deteriorated dramatically with exemptions given to underqualified players, undermining the credibility of full PGA Tour wins awarded at the event
- Women's golf viewership could grow substantially by directly comparing LPGA and PGA Tour shots on the same courses to help mainstream audiences understand skill differences
- Temporary tournament installations like the Chevron pool should carry penalty strokes to maintain competitive integrity rather than free drops
- PGA Tour Champions and legends tours are thriving with compelling fields and formats, suggesting senior golf has strong audience appeal
Trends
Major championship venues are being announced years in advance (2054 scheduling mentioned) while some events lack confirmed locations within 3 years, creating planning uncertaintyLive Golf is expanding into U.S. markets with state-anchored teams (Oklahoma OKGC) after previously positioning as international productWomen's golf is gaining production investment with major course relocations and increased purses, signaling confidence in LPGA growthTGL is establishing itself as viable bar-watch content despite format criticisms, with player awards generating significant social media engagementGolf course design and routing decisions significantly impact tournament difficulty and player strategy, relevant for future major championship site selectionTemporary tournament modifications (pools, installations) are becoming more common, raising questions about competitive fairness and tradition preservationSenior golf tours (Champions Tour, Legends Tour) are attracting quality fields and maintaining relevance with established player bases
Topics
St. Andrews Old Course reverse routing and design implicationsZurich Classic field quality and exemption criteriaChevron Championship relocation to Memorial ParkLPGA viewership growth strategiesPGA Tour Champions eligibility and schedulingLive Golf team naming and brandingTGL format and player engagementGolf course design and playabilityMajor championship venue planningWomen's golf purse increasesTournament tradition vs. innovationGolf broadcast production standardsTemporary course modifications and penaltiesSenior golf tour relevancePGA Tour exemption policies
Companies
CBS Sports
Broadcasts PGA Tour events and new Scorecard show with Shane Bacon; mentioned for coverage of signature events
Paramount+
Streaming platform for new Scorecard golf show launching after signature events on weekends
Golf Channel
Broadcasts Chevron Championship and other LPGA events; mentioned for coverage times and production
NBC Sports
Broadcasts Chevron Championship final rounds and LPGA coverage on network television
ESPN
Platforms for TGL coverage and player of the year awards; mentioned for social media reach
PGA Tour
Primary professional golf tour discussed throughout; context for field quality, exemptions, and scheduling
Live Golf
Competing professional golf league launching Oklahoma-based team (OKGC) after international positioning
USGA
Organizes U.S. Open and manages championship courses; mentioned for app and Wingfoot hosting
The R&A
Governs Open Championship at St. Andrews; mentioned for reverse course lottery and event hosting
YouTube
Platform for Scorecard golf show distribution alongside Paramount+ and traditional broadcast
People
Shane Bacon
Guest discussing St. Andrews trip, golf news, and new Scorecard show launching on Paramount+
Andy
Co-host discussing golf events, field analysis, and personal golf experiences at Wingfoot
PJ
Co-host analyzing golf fields, discussing TGL, and sharing personal golf experiences
Brendan
Mentioned as returning from Scotland trip; produces walk-up music segments for Friday episodes
Rory McIlroy
Discussed as notable absence from Zurich Classic despite full PGA Tour win being awarded
Scottie Scheffler
Discussed as notable absence from Zurich Classic; mentioned for recent form and team pairings
Tom Kim
Won TGL Player of the Year award; made viral hole-in-one with 19M+ views across ESPN platforms
Nellie Korda
Discussed as contender for Chevron Championship with strong recent form and major championship potential
Joe Musso
Co-host of new Scorecard show launching with Shane Bacon on Paramount+ after signature events
Ian Woosnam
Hosts Barbados Legends tournament; mentioned as event organizer for senior golf competition
Nick Dunlap
Ranked last in strokes gained off-the-tee; paired with Sargent for Zurich alternate shot format
Gordon Sargent
Ranked last in strokes gained approach; paired with Dunlap for Zurich alternate shot format
Ches Reavey
Won Barracuda Championship more recently than Speith's last PGA Tour win; dominates at Whisper Rock
Tiger Woods
Referenced for T-squared bar collaboration in St. Andrews; mentioned for driving issues humor
Justin Timberlake
Co-branded T-squared bar in St. Andrews with Tiger Woods; mentioned as tourist attraction
Quotes
"Scotland's undefeated. It's, have you, have you done, um, the reverse? Yeah. No, never, never done the reverse would be very, would be very into that."
Andy•~15 minutes
"This is a disgusting event. Disgusting. It's not going to exist anymore. You can't have a cutthroat tour and hand out exceptions for a partner event."
PJ•~45 minutes
"Everybody sucks at golf. Factual. Like I, I suck at golf. Totally. I suck. I suck. I suck all the time at golf."
Andy•~165 minutes
"If you're going to put this stupid little temporary pool in, it has to be a penalty. Got to be a penalty."
Shane Bacon•~95 minutes
"The fact that it's a free drop is crazy to me. Make it a penalty. If you're going to put the pool in, it's got to be a penalty."
PJ•~90 minutes
Full Transcript
Now the shotgun starting golf is full of mathematics. There's a lot of setup work that we have to do in order to make a tournament work. So I'm going to demonstrate to you just exactly how we do a shotgun start here. And here we go. Alright, alright, alright. Gentlemen! Start your engine! Greetings and welcome to another edition of the Shotgun Start. Today is Wednesday, April 22nd. Shane, how are you doing? Andy, I wonder how many people turn the pod off right now. Like, they're like, no, Brendan. Andy's got to do the intro. Done. Nope, we'll skip to Friday. I wonder what those numbers look like. I'll get a page on that at some point. Well, the people that stick around know that podcasts with me and you on this feed tend to be rambling. And just all over the place. I believe that we did do one that we titled a show about nothing about five years ago. Maybe one of the worst episodes in the shotgun start history outside of the one you guys recorded in the car, which is always going to be number one. But I will say, I was very proud of y'all that you even in your advanced podcasting era still do the thing where you're in different rooms in the same house doing the pod. I got a good kick out of that. Yeah, we didn't have PJ. If we had had PJ with us in Scotland, we would have been able to just do it all together. But, you know, we regressed to the technical abilities of myself and Brendan, and thus we're going to record in different rooms. But it worked. It happened. It got out the door. I was stressing about the Wi-Fi capabilities of whatever house in Scotland you guys had. Even all three of you at work. It was great. I'm just happy it happened. This reminded me. I have a bunch of stuff I need to back up now that I'm on Wi-Fi that is quick. There you go. Andy, I have a question for you. By the way, PJ and I are airplane buddies. So we've already been on an airplane together this year. Andy, when did you decide to go to the flight controller microphone thing? PJ made me. Okay. What was the reason for this? Okay. This was for when we were doing a show at the US Open last year in the brewery. So I needed better sound quality. I couldn't have open mics. So I bought these headsets. Brendan habitual bad mic etiquette. Yeah. He's he's he's back and forth. Yeah. Yeah. Makes it hard to add it on my end. So I said, screw it. We're going headsets full time. So you just, you know, speak and it'll pick up and move around all you want. Yeah. I think I'm going to go back to that. The the mic stand. I don't like the headset. You know, I would like, I would like every, I would like once an episode, every episode you just randomly talk about like a flight incoming just, just on the side, like Newark to O'Hare. Yeah. Freedom and then just go Friday kitchens with the with the play sheet. You got to cover cover your mouth. That's pretty good. I like that a lot. I had a disaster of flight yesterday. Wait. So you were in Scotland. You flew Scotland to where to where to Newark to SFO. Oh, you actually flew to Newark. I was, I was actually joking about that. I don't, I've never, I haven't stopped. I've lived in the Northeast now for five years have not stepped foot in Newark one time. I think it's fine. It's, I feel like everything in Newark is like a generic, you know, it looks nice, but it's just, you know, there's no name brand behind it. I got delayed there for a couple hours. I ended up traveling. I was traveling for 23 and a half hours. That's tough. That's tough. How was the old course, by the way? That was amazing. Okay. You played it reverse. Did you play it normal and then reverse? Normal and then reverse. It was a great event. I mean, I don't think I have to like tell people this, but I mean, that's about as good of an event as you can do. They do the old course reverse lottery, which I assume your chances of winning are very small, but you should enter it every year because if you win, it's like the coolest event you could do. They have dinner, they have a dinner one night. We did a live podcast one night and it's just like, it's pretty surreal. It's just, it's wild how the course works. And I think we're going to do a Friday. I got episode about this maybe next week, but in a way like the, you know how the front nine of the old course really makes sense? Yeah. And then the back nine to the little bit like chaos. Yeah. I mean, it's really starting on 12 T. It's just total chaos. Yes. Well, the back nine, when you're playing the, in reverse is the front nine and it actually makes a lot of sense. Like one T, one T to 17 green is a really good hole. Yeah, for sure. So you hit, you hit driver on one and did you hit it down like by the bridge or was there, did you have to take less than driver? So I played Hickory's in the reverse because it's only like 6,000 yards. Okay. Okay. So I mean, it was long, but two is a two in reverse is crazy. So going from 17 T or no, next to 17 green to 16 green, you have to play over the, over the quarter into the green. No, why are we going to hit over? I mean, it's like, it's way harder. I think it's way harder than the road hole. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, is it a par? I mean, I know it's par is irrelevant. Is it kind of a par five in theory or no? It was apparently originally a par five. Okay. That would make more sense. But yeah, it made a ton of sense. Like, you know, the, obviously the hole on the old course that everybody says is just like, you know, absurd as the 12th hole because you can't see any of the bunkers. No, no. When I was caddy in there, Andy, and I would tell people there were however many eight bunkers or whatever out there, and they would look at you like you were a complete moron, which they weren't wrong. I was a complete moron, but there were the bunkers out there. And then they, you know, I mean, everybody hits it in them. I mean, unless you're, you know, unless you hit it 300 yards, you're hitting it in a bunker no matter what. And I mean, you can hit it way right at B okay. If the roughs down a little bit, but there's literally nowhere to hit that T shot. It's, um, it's a ridiculous hole. I was playing dead into the wind and I was like, I don't know where to hit it. Because like, if it's not into the wind, I feel like I could get past everything. Yeah. Yeah. Which is fine. Yeah. You could bomb it over everything with like, with your, with your actual equipment. But yeah, Hickory's would have been different to play on that. But yeah. Hickory's made it incredible. Um, I, I regret, I was like kind of in a, I've got a lot of stuff going on with my life right now. Um, and a, and a bit of a, I mean, you got airplanes, you got airplanes trying to land. I mean, you got a lot of stuff going. And when I packed for the trip, obviously I did Augusta to St. Andrews. I was gone for 16 days, but I packed at like 10 PM, uh, the night before Augusta, leaving for Augusta. And I just threw my clubs in. I didn't even think, but I like two weeks earlier, I had thought like, okay, make your set like a real cool set for, for your week of links golf. But I got to the point where I just was like, and pack as fast as you can mode and just like threw the clubs into the travel bags, sipped it up. Yeah. And I was like, that's done. So I wish I would have thought about it more, but I mean, Scotland's undefeated. It's, have you, have you done, um, the reverse? Yeah. No, never, never done the reverse would be very, would be very into that. I mean, you know, like spending a decent amount of time, I would always, when I had guys walk off 12 green, I would always make them turn around and I'd be like, just so you know, this makes way more sense, you know, and they would always look back. Um, a couple of holes like that. Um, 13, I feel like kind of a little similar in terms of the second shot to that green. You kind of, you kind of can't hit a close second shot there, you know, unless the whole location's like way back, um, but they wouldn't push it that far back most of the time. But I feel like reversing that hole as well. You're more playing into the green or whatever. It felt like the entire back nine to me actually worked better in reverse. Yeah. Um, but you know, it is the way it is. I, it would be cool if they kept mowing it out more and more every year. So it gets better in reverse and maybe they did do it more often. I don't know. It's, uh, I didn't expect to do old course reverse minute, but you know, the open opens at the old course next year. That's next year. I can't wait. I, I like want to go to St. Andrews every year. Yeah. It's, it's an interesting major lineup. Have you looked the next year, Augusta, Pebble, Andrews and Frisco. Yeah. So it's an interesting lineup. It is. I mean, Pebble, obviously like you talk about the cathedrals of the game and I, I don't know if Pebble should still be considered a cathedral. But it is, but it is, but it is what equipment's done to it. Um, but it is, you have a Pebble and the old course, like two of the most sought after venues to win a major at, and then you, and then you got Frisco, but Frisco, maybe in a hundred years, people will be like PGA Frisco. Yeah. I just wanted the, one of the drums you beat that I love, um, about the future planning for major sites is what if a new course gets built, it's awesome and you're just not going to have any holes. But by the way, I think there's a hole, maybe is 28 open right now for the open. For the open. I think they've been talking a lot about Port Marnock, maybe. Okay. Okay. In Ireland. Yeah. That's controversial to go to Ireland, you know. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, it's interesting that we live in a, in a place where you're hitting, you're hearing about majors in like 2054 and then in three years from now, we don't know where the open is going to be playing. But again, I think that's how it used to be. I'm assuming is you probably didn't really know the venue until a couple years ahead, right? Uh, no, I, I mean, that's the thing. I feel like it used to be like a year ahead, you know, but now it's, now the, now, now, now he's Googling, now he's Googling. So he's not paying attention. Now at PGA, probably going to have to hop in here and talk to me about, uh, you know, etiquette at Illegorty or something. If you're, if you're going to be Googling now, I mean, it's, it's fine. He was getting there. You could, you could tell when the eyes start getting big that he's reading, but he was getting there. I could tell he was close. Hey, hey, PJ, let me ask you a question. How's your life right now? How are you doing? You know, I'm doing great. I had a great day out in the links. Got to play some golf this morning. It was great. Where'd you play? Peach played wing foot today. I played wing foot. Oh, I was supposed to play in that thing, but I had a CBS show this morning. Andy, it's the show that still comes up as the DVR as y'all's old show, which cracks me up. Uh, we've told them a few times that they could adjust that. So, uh, maybe we'll get it adjusted by summer, but, uh, I'm kind of like texts from family members about it. They're like, where are you on the show? And you're like, no, not my show. Um, hey, congrats on your new show, the scorecard. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. It's been a sports network. It's on, on Saturdays and Sundays. Right. Yeah. So it'll be after the signature events coming going forward. We just did one, Joe Musso and I do it. Wagner does it. Um, and woman comes on, Colton, those pops on, I think a man is going to come on every now and again as well. Um, but it's basically, it's basically just to right when the golf ends on CBS. We'll be up on Paramount plus. Um, it's on YouTube as well. Um, it's kind of, you know, it's kind of across the board, but yeah, it was fun. I mean, Wags was out the recreating golf shots. Um, we got the shower with Trevor about the wind. Yeah. He actually, he didn't hit the shot perfectly like Scott. He did out of the trees. I know you probably didn't watch a lot of golf last weekend, but he hit the second one 20 feet. I was very impressed. We actually did. We, we got it. We had it going. We were watching the skies telecast, telecast, but you know, one spot we jumped in and in St. Andrews that I didn't know St. Andrews needed. T squared. The Tiger Woods, Justin Timberlake collaborate. Where, where is it? Where is it? Is it a cigar bar? No, it's preposterous. It's so, it's so absurd. It's just built for tourists. It's where, where is it? What's it by? So it's right by, um, you know, where, um, the gray fryer's in is it's like, yeah, it's like three blocks from the old course. It was in the old movie theater. Oh, I think I know. The movie theater that's up past, past the Dunvegan on the left. Yes. Oh man, I've been in that movie theater. So it's in a movie. It's this bar, but this Tiger Woods adjusted to really collaboration bar, which is humorous for, you know, they're, they're driving issues. Um, but the, uh, the place, like it has sports on a movie screen and then there's simulators. I mean, it's just like a tourist factory. Was it busy? No, no, I mean, it was, it was at like, you know, probably 30% capacity when we walked in. We just, we went in and walked right out. I mean, I just wanted to see the space. Yeah. I could, I could, yeah. It was more of a social, just to see the social scene there. Yeah. You want to grab, if you're going to grab a pie, you'd prefer to probably go to a little bit more historical establishment if you could. Would you prefer to go to the T squared in St. Andrews or the one right next to Grand Central? I forgot to take one in New York. Where do you think the vibes are better? I can't say I've ever been, but now I kind of need to go for science. Hey, PJ, listen, I will guarantee you this. If you want to go one day, a lovely little, little, little spring afternoon, you let me know and I'll meet you there. I feel like we're going to be on. Do a full report. I can go full report on how it is. We could take some pics next to maybe some of the great images of our two, of our two kind of music and golf heroes and, and you know, you know what we should do? We should get Joseph to lunch with the boys, bacon for lunch at T squared. So bacon burgers at T squared. I think we just figured it out. I think T squared might be sponsoring this pod very soon. Sign him up. Give business feet on it. My, my sad thing. I, I'm just sad now thinking about this, that PJ didn't get to go to the woods a couple of months ago because it closed down. I, I still can't believe how during, during a TGL night, they closed at nine o'clock. The game wasn't even a way. It wasn't even over. It is right because we went, we were there. That's tough. That's tough, man. That's not knowing your, that's not knowing your clientele. You got to be open for the, for the fans. Juke links locked and loaded. You know, but they play the juke links matches. It was not a juke links match in their defense. However, they do say that they play the juke link matches with sound on the flyers that put them. So you can hear, you can hear what's going on. You know what TGL is, is, is a pretty good bar watch. I feel like, I think TGL, you know, if football's over or whatever, I feel like TGL is a pretty solid watch at a bar. You don't necessarily need the sound to at least just take in what's going on. Now, you know, while we're on it, let's hit some of the news of the day. The biggest news of the day. I have two things that I have a different thing is the biggest news of the day. Shane, I'm happy because we've talked 15 minutes about nothing. And thankfully, nothing's really going on in the golf world right now. It's just factual. I mean, it's a Zurich week. I was going to say, this is, I'm surprised you're, you should be like a pig in shit with this field. This is the worst field I think I've ever seen. This is the field that is going to radicalize me because this is abhorrent. This is a disgusting event. Disgusting. It's not going to exist anymore. You can't have a cutthroat tour and hand out exceptions for a partner event. Hey, can I ask, I'll ask both of you guys this. I posed this question today on our show with Patrick McDonald. And I think it's a decent take since they give out full PGA tour wins for the Zurich right now. And the fact that it is likely going to go away. Why wouldn't Rory and Scotty play in this together and both get a win? Like just be like, whatever, we'll just win. And it goes on and just add to their total, right? I think they value weeks at home. More than a PGA tour win. All right. Well, it seems like everybody does because I think the biggest indictment on this whole thing. No Hoy guards just can't pack it up. Cancel this event. If you can't even get the Hoy guards, the Fitsies are there now. Come on. The Fitsies are locked and loaded. Well, you know, Alex is a winner now. So I guess that that does change the prop on that a little bit. I personally am a big fan of the Jonathan Bird Ches Reavey pair. Oh man, I loved that one. I loved that one so much. Do you know what brought we brought that up today and Patrick McDonald on our show said, Ches Reavey has a win more recent than speed on the PGA tour. No way. Yeah, that's bad. Ches won the CUDA a few years ago more recently than the 22 CUDA. Yeah, then speeds one on the PGA tour, which is so wild. You tied this all back together for me, Shane, because Bren and I were in St. Andrews when Ches won the CUDA. It was the week of the open full circle in 22. And we went on Saturday night, we stumbled into the woods. You went to the Timberlake and Tiger Place or no? We later found out it's like the student union. Okay. It was a bar. It was just rocking. Middle summer, all these, you know, there were a bunch of 20 somethings in there. You know, they were kids making out and in the background, the CUDA was on. That's what we were watching Ches just dominate. Some dude, some dudes finally kissing this girlies like for six months and you guys are like, can you move out of the way Ches Reeve might win the Barracuda? They're like, what is happening here? We got to get these Americans out of this place. God, we just found that the fabric that ties the old course discussion with this week's Zurich. I wonder how Ches is played in the opens at St. Andrews. You know what I heard from a source? Yeah, go ahead. So there's been like a run of different guys that just dominate at Whisper Rock. Yeah. And Ches apparently was one of them. Not surprised. This person was like, it's weird, but like I'm standing on the T box and we're flipping teas for partners. And I'm hoping the tea lands on Ches Reeve, not John Rott. Unbeatable at Whisper Rock. I mean, go out there and you could probably, if you hit a lot of fairways, hit it straight, probably shoot 65. You know, a pretty decent clip out there. It's not an overly long golf course, both of them. So yeah, probably doable. I hear spawns now the guy that nobody wants to. So Tan, it was Tan, it was Ogilvy. Well, remember Ogilvy, I think the year he won the US Open played in the like the club championship there, Sony Week and finished outside the top 15. I think the year after the year after he won the US Open. Yeah, you'll have to ask him about that. I will ask him about that. Ken Tanigawa took him out there. Yeah. Tanigawa was the guy and then it was, and so then it was Ches and now it's JJ. Now it's spawn. Yeah. There you go. So some Scottish No Golf News for you. There's just your Ches Reevey minute. We didn't even get to the biggest golf news of the day. Do you know what it is? No. TGL Player of the Year. Did you see who won TGL Player of the Year? I did not. Do you want to guess who it was? All right. So what team won at all? Who won? LA? LA. LA beat Jupe Stinks. And I'll say, is Tommy Fleetwoods on LA? I'll say Tommy Fleetwood player of the, player of the year. Is that what we're going with? Right first name. Oh, Tom Kim. Tom Kim. Tom Kim. Tom Kim, TGL Player of the Year. I wonder if you get a trophy for that. I mean, we were good at, we were, we've been joking about doing our own TGL Award segment. It's sending people the actual, like actual trophies. I got to be honest. I don't think we could have come up with something better than Tom Kim teaching a player of the year. I don't think we could have done that. It's like, you can't beat the joke, right? Like SNL, like got to avoid some of this stuff sometimes. It's just like too good to be true. I don't, I don't think we could beat that. I think, I think they, they jumped us in, in the, the pecking order for TGL Awards. I don't think we can top that. Listen, I, I consume a decent amount of TGL. I, I don't necessarily remember if Tom Kim was good or bad. I do know that he gets pretty excited on the golf course, which is good for TGL. Was he good? I think, I feel. I don't know if you heard, maybe you didn't. He made a hole in one that got over 19 million views across all BSPN's platforms. That's a good point. That's a good point. So some people, some people, he won the award because of that hole one. Without a doubt, not naming names. Some people hypothetically have called the hole in one into potential question, given that it was to win a match to get Tiger's team into the playoffs. Okay. You know, some people have thrown that out there. Could be anybody, but it got a, got a, got a trophy. So congrats. I mean, you know, you know what I came home to, Peach? You'll like this while you're here. Oh, jeez. Remember how I, I, uh, this is an episode about nothing already. Just nothing. You know, turn it off. Go spend time with your families. Bacon. I don't know if I told you I got a ticket on my bike. Yeah. No, I heard the story. I heard it on the pod. Do you care to guess how much the ticket was? I mean, you're in California. I mean, it's not cheap. Probably, I bet it's 350. Oh, I was thinking not cheap was 175. It was my guess. Well, split the baby there. $233. Oh my goodness. Or I could go for, was it for speed? I could go to court on my birthday. I decided to pay the ticket. No, you had, oh, you had to go. What are the odds the guy would show up? Like realistically. Man, we did, I had that, PJ had that happen in college one time. We got in trouble for a party or house. And the cop, I went to court and the cop didn't show up and they threw it out. And I was like the best day of our lives and all of college is going back home and telling everybody we're good. You could have ever received this guy to not show up. I got too much stuff going on. I'm not going, I'm not going to go to college. I'm not going, I'm not going to traffic court. So Andy, it was, it's 233. What is on the ticket? Like what does it say you did? It says I didn't, I failed to stop at a stop sign. Oh yeah. Okay. Failure to stop at a stop sign. $233. I'm going to guess this is the most ridiculous ticket you've received in your life. Is that fair? Uh, yeah. Yeah. Maybe, maybe. I got, I got aggressive left turn one time. What? In Arizona was going to, I was, I was, I was in my twenties. I was going on a date to pick up a girl to go to a movie and I took a left in front of a cop. Honestly, honestly, not that close. I mean, he did, I'm assuming he didn't have to lock up his brakes. Might have had to push the brakes and he turned his lights on and he gave me an aggressive left turn ticket. That's ridiculous. Never heard that one before. Never heard that one before. I, I didn't even know an aggressive left turn existed. Just like I didn't know you could get a ticket on a bike. I didn't know that. I mean, I should go, I should have gone to court. I already paid the ticket, but you know, it's not my life. Do you think we're going to talk about any golf today or no? Well, we, we've talked about golf. We've talked about the whole course. I wanted to get to the next news item that beat, I would say Tom Kim, TGL player of the year was number one, number two news item today. This was the press release that came across by desk this afternoon. Live golf plants flag in Oklahoma with launch of OKGC, the league's first team anchored in a U.S. state. It is. Now let me ask you an honest, I mean, first of all, I mean, I mean, dismissing the whole, like we're an international product and we're not going to be in America. The fact that that was spoken, I don't know, three or four days ago. So does this mean is it smash is gone? Is that the point of this? No more smash and now we're, what are we called in Oklahoma? OKGC. OKGC. OK. It's better. It's better. The logo is not great. I got to be honest with you. The buffalo. From a logo guy with the star in the middle. Just, I mean, we could do better. We could do better with the logo, but the name is an improvement. You know, they said that that was an award-winning design company that designed the logo. Yeah, it's just, I, well, listen, I mean, there's Tom Kim won an award today and we're already laughing about that. Not all awards are amazing, right? Can I tell you what the OKC brand is about? Yeah, yeah, of course. The OKC brand is inspired by the values that define the state. OK. What would you, what would you say defines Oklahoma? Oh, I mean, you know, Oklahoma's a pretty, I've spent decent amount of time in Oklahoma back in my younger days. Good people, Wendy, oil, I feel like those are, those are probably big parts of Oklahoma in a nutshell. I'll give them grit, grit, grit, grit, grit, right? Yep. Forward momentum. Yeah, yeah. I don't know what that means. It just says it randomly or is it part of the sentence? Define, these are the values that define the state in OKGC. Grit, forward momentum. Yeah, just not, not to make sense of nothing, Burger, keep going. And a strong sense of belonging. I mean, sure. Is that a value? I mean, no, no, no, no, that's, I mean, like, grit's the only winner there. Everything else is just, just words. What are your good values? Forward momentum. Like what? I just, do you think Presti has this on the wall and like the draft room? No, I just, like forward momentum. Grit. Strong sense of belonging. Hey, are we going to just continue down this road of these types of press releases in sports forever? Yes. It's only going to get like this worse? I actually hope it gets, I hope it gets worse. We're entering the AI press release era. Oh, it's great. We can't underwrite that. It's only going to get better for this podcast. It's only, it's only going to get better the more, you know, brand people rely on AI to write things for them. I think we need to start bringing our own press releases back. I think we need to get back in the lab on some press releases. It's been a while. It has been a while. You know what we could do a press release for? Friday Golf Club. There it is. We did. I knew we could do it. I was so proud. I have a Friday hat I was going to put on while you did this read. I don't know where I put it. We've got a membership. It's called Friday Golf Club. It's exciting. You know, we write stuff there. There's a community there. We have a bunch of events. The SINSE community. Well, there's, you'll have a strong sense of belonging if you join Friday Golf Club. It's pretty. Maybe it could give you some forward momentum in your golf game. We're in life. Yeah. We used to say if you subscribed to subscribers of Friday, the Friday newsletter, make more birdies. You know? Yeah. Yeah. That was never proven, but it could give you momentum. Friday Golf Club, you could discount some merch. You can get early access to events. We have Friday Golf Club only events. And it's a great, great deal. It's $120 a year. It goes, it supports what we do. It helps us make more cool stuff. And I am really proud of the community. Like if you're into golf, there's just a bunch of people that are pretty chill and into golf. I mean, $120 is one decision to order out dinner versus cooking at home, like a year. Look at you. That's just one, that's one time you're like, I don't know if I want to make the kale salad. Let's order pizza. You order a couple pizzas and breadsticks probably ends up being a 120 with the delivery charge, right? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like we've entered a period of society where like just like every time I turn around, I'm paying $100 or something. I got Chick-fil-A the other day for my kids and me and it was $38. And I was like, man, it just feels like a lot of money. Yeah. That used to be like $20. Yeah, that's right. All right. Well, Friday Golf Club, you can join at thefriday.com. That was as good of a read as it's ever been done for Friday Golf Club. Good job. Proud of you. Oh, I wanted to finish the press release here. Okay. So, OKGC, the ethos will be reflected across team uniforms, fan first merchandise, content, and marketing activation throughout the remainder of the 2026 season. Ethos of grit, forward momentum, and a strong sense of belonging. They're going to just carry that through everything they're doing. Have you, do you think you've ever used the word ethos in any conversation in your life, Andy? I think I've used it. Have you? Okay. I mean, I don't know. Not a lot. I'll say that. I don't think I've ever said strong sense of belonging. So, all right. Let's get to the schedule of the week. We've got a jam-packed week. We've got a women's major this week, which is a big, the Chevron. Is that the event of the week? I lost my schedule of the week. This is usually BP's thing here. But we've got the Chevron, which is at a new golf course this year. It's at Memorial Park. I think this is a good deal for the women going to Memorial Park. Totally. Yeah. I mean, it's my event of the week. That's for sure. I'm excited to watch it. You know, I was thinking about Nellie and the way she's played this year. So, she has three seconds and a win. That win out of the gate that was the weird one with the scheduling. But, you know, I mean, obviously, every time she teased it up, it's like she's obviously got a chance to win, kind of like Scotty recently. Just two majors for Nellie. And the last was a couple of years ago at the Chevron different golf course. I feel like this is a great golf course for her. Just bomb driver all over the place. But I think we need to start winning the majors if we're Nellie, you know, getting, picking up a couple more. Yeah. Yeah. I would agree with that. I think just in general, LPGA has gotten off to a great start in terms of winners, big name winners, unlike last year where they had the run of like basically no repeat winners. Just everybody was one and done. Yeah. I think, yeah, I think obviously for the sports sake, like Nellie winning majors is really good for the sport. I listen like going from Carlton Woods, a private club that, you know, it was a very under-barketed event to the most one of the most popular golf courses in America. I think I think Memorial Park does about 80,000 rounds a year. Wow. Obviously, they have a 12 month schedule. It's right in the city of Houston. It's like the place that the people play and it's a really cool design. I think this is, this is awesome. I think the biggest thing like I'm excited about is obviously the Greens can get rocking and rolling out there and they're pretty undulated. And I think that's, that makes women's golf a lot more interesting to watch is when they have these kind of small targets that they have to get at because they're extremely precise players and it is really fun to watch one. That's the case. So hopefully we get a firm weekend there. The purse is $8 million. I think it's up a million this year. I saw that news. Mao Saigo is the defending champ and a couple of notables here are Lauren Coglin, Hannah Green, Jin Yong-Ko, Lydia Ko, Nellie Cordo, as you mentioned, Minji Lee, Gina Thittical, and Lexi Thompson's play. So you can catch that on Golf Channel, 1-3 Eastern, 6-8 Friday. Same time, Saturday it is 1-3 on NBC or 3-6 on Golf Channel and Sunday's final round, 1-30 to 2 on Peacock and then 2-5-30 on NBC. So on NBC Network TV for this weekend. The other big thing, we've seen the pool installed. Shane, where do you stand on the temporary pool? It is like a pool that you would put in your house. It's a 4 1⁄2 foot pool. It looks about 8 feet wide and 12 feet long. It is beside the 18th grade. It's got to be a penalty. The fact that it's a free drop is crazy to me. Make it a penalty. If you're going to put the pool in, it's got to be a penalty. Is it sane that they get a free drop if they hit it in the pool? Yeah. I mean, it's water. That's the only free drop of water in golf history, right? Is there another example of this ever? I don't think there's ever another example of a tournament installing a pool for one week. No. It's not big. It's tiny. It's hard to hit into it. But put the whole location right next to it on Sunday and involve the pool. If we're going to build the pool for the jump, you've got to make it a penalty. Yeah. It feels like this is a complete mess. If you're putting it in a temporary pool that looks absolutely preposterous just so the winner can jump in as was the tradition at one of your most historic events, which you gutted and moved, but you've somehow held onto, even though the event's name something completely different. It's a new event. It shouldn't happen. I feel like I get more upset about the pool the longer it goes. And now they're going to build a giant pond just for them to jump into. Is that going to be a penalty? Is the pond going to be a penalty or no? Yeah. The pond is going to be a penalty. I just can't believe the pool's not a penalty. It's fun. That is a fun wrinkle to the golf tournament. Yeah. It would be cool. It'd be funny if somebody hid it in the pool. Yeah. I mean, my favorite thing is that the, I've heard that the players hate the jumping into the pool. Trant is. Yeah. I don't want to, can I tell you what the most insane tradition in sports is? Is dumping liquid on me when I won. And what I think is the craziest is when you don't dump champagne. Like when these girls, when US Junior girls and stuff and they're getting water dumped on them, it's like, no, I'm good. The whole point of the dumping stuff was to spray champagne on people, right? And obviously if you're underage, you're not going to spray champagne on people. That makes sense. But you don't have to spray stuff on people. But coming out with a, with a bottle of aquafina and dumping it on my head after I won a golf tournament, I would be legitimately annoyed at that. Well, the other thing is you got to take a bunch of pictures. 100%. Like, like I don't want to be soaking wet. Do remember, and maybe they still do it. Remember they had a robe sponsorship at one point, I believe, where you'd get like the robe and the caddy to get the robe. Didn't some mom, didn't some players mom like bust their leg one time, jumping in like, well, I feel like the others think about this. It's a four and a half foot pool. Somebody has their life. It hurt. There should be a lifeguard. There should be. I'm telling you, I suggested that to Brendan last week. I said, if you have a pool in a public park, like I kind of feel like it's a law that there has to be a lifeguard. I suggested getting like a Wendy Pfeffer corn, just sitting there, sunglasses, like holding the thing. I mean, it would be, it would be great. I think you could, you could actually sponsor that. I mean, not like we need more sponsorships in golf, but like you could actually make that a sponsorship thing, make it fun, silly, bring a Houston celeb out to do it. Big umbrella on top of the lifeguard stand. If you hit it off the umbrella, it could bounce onto the green. It could bounce anywhere. The umbrellas in play. Who could sponsor the umbrella? Travelers who? Travelers. Yeah. The traveler. Everything's under the umbrella. I love it. I love it. Get, get involved travelers. I just, again, I understand trying to grasp to this small piece of history that is unique to your sport, to jump it in the water thing. While it might have been strange and the players didn't love it, it was something people remembered about the major championship. So you bring that to Houston, sure. Right. I know it doesn't make a lot of sense, but bringing it to Houston, it's fine. That's fine with me. You know, if you move, it's like, okay, see players occasionally like wear supersonic stuff and you're like, ah, it doesn't really, or like in the history books, they're still in the supersonic history books, but you gotta at least lean into it. You see players or supersonic gear. I mean, I bet they will. I bet they do walk into TGL with like a, you know, the original OG Durant logo jersey on or Kemp or something. I'm sure they could do it. Yeah. That's, uh, it'll be interesting, but you were going, I interrupted for a second. No, all I'm saying is if you're going to lean into this, why not make it a little fun? I know it's a major championship, but it's water and golf have one result and that is bad. In fact, that you're introducing water next to a green in a consequential moment. There should be some penalty there because that is how golf plays. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. If you're going to put this stupid little temporary pool in, it has to be a penalty. Got to be a penalty. Um, any, any other spare Chevron thoughts before we move on to the next, uh, next event, event on the calendar? No, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm excited about it. Like I said, it's my event of the week. Um, I, uh, I really like this golf course. I hope Andy that there are moments within the telecast, kind of like what we saw at Pinehurst with Michelle, we and Martin Kimer. I'm hoping there's moments that they go back to shots hit on the PGA tour to give you an example of maybe the difference of the trajectories or the way balls roll or things like that. It seems like an easy thing to lean into to just kind of marry the two tours a little bit, especially on Thursday, Friday, maybe not into the weekend. But I think that would be something cool to see like where the players hit these tee shots versus where the LPGA players are hitting tee shots and then clubs they have in on average. I mean, we don't get the same golf course that often to compare these things to. So I'm hoping there's some talk of at least integrating that, you know, within the broadcast. Yeah. I think, I think one of the things that the LPGA, um, could do just in general is like they're trying to do to garner a larger audience like that. Right. They have to grow. They have to grow their audience. So like the most logical place to grow your audience to is like, how do we get people that watch men's golf to watch women's golf? Um, and if you prescribe by that theory, that's a really good idea. You know, all right, these people already watch golf. Let's make this more relatable so they can understand the differences more, more clearly. Um, all right. Next, next event on the calendar is the Zerch Classic. We touched on this. PJ PJ's been radicalized by this. It's that TPC Louisiana. The purse is $9.5 million. Defending champs are Andrew Novak and Ben Griffin. The notable teams in the field, you're ready for what this document tells are the noble team. How many, how many are there? Um, I mean, it looks like I'm not going to count. It's not bad radio, but probably about 10. Okay. Seems like a lot. There's probably two notable teams. There's two notable teams. I'm excited for you. You tell me if the, you tell me which ones are notable and not notable. Ready? Go ahead. Wyndham, Clark and Taylor Moore. No. Brooks, Kepke and Shane Lowry. Yes. Notable. No vacuumed Griffin. Defending champ. Defending champions. Okay. I'll say notable. Billy Horsel and Tom Hogi. And I'm going to say no. How tongue Lee and Jordan Smith. Does that get going for you? They should have just written speed and just seen if anybody noticed. They should have written it down. Honestly, I think George Smith is a better golfer than George. I'm not saying he's not. I'm just saying in terms of if you're trying to get people to read this document and get eyeballs on it, you could have just leaned in and just, oh, if whenever somebody complained, go as a mistake, our bad. Matt and Alex Fitzpatrick. That's a notable team. That's probably the team that's going to win. This is a fun team. Michael, Brendan, Johnny Kiefer, two boys that in the fall, everybody was like, they're going to run the PGA tour this year. Yeah. There's a, I gotta be honest, Andy, there's like four teams like this. There's four teams that are like next up that are not probably next up. Maybe Brendan is next up. We'll see. I got a note. Passed. I'll keep this, this, the source anonymous for this, but this is about a team. He titled them the bad news barons. Bad news barons. Can Birmingham duo Nick Dunlap and Sarvastien pull off the bar? This is one of my, this is one of my, this is one of my like next ups that aren't next up like two years ago, you and I would have been going, oh man, these are the guys, you know. So yeah, I think we're going to be able to get a little bit of a little bit of a yes. Now this is this format. You play best ball and then you play alternate shot. I have some statistics that are going to illuminate a bit of an issue for the alternate shop format. Is this for these two guys? For these two guys? Oh gosh. Okay. Go ahead. Nick Dunlap is last on the PGA tour and strokes gate off the tee. Is that like one 66? Is that where he's at? Is that the ranking? It's like all the way down? It's everywhere he is. It's left? Yeah. Okay. And Gordon Sargent, who will be hitting approaches from Nick Dunlap's drives, is last in Strokes' game approach. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Oh, that's actually good. This is what I wanna see. I hope they play great. That's unbelievable. So this is your going from the worst driver of the golf ball on the PJ Tour to the worst iron player? Oh, it's a dream. I hope they win. Same. Put them on future groups. I wish they had the old- I can start vote thing. We could vote on who to show. Well, there are other teams that I think we should vote for on future groups. But that is so good. I cannot wait to follow the shot trails of Altered Shot. Andy, Andy, I gotta say this. You know how we've been doing a lot of the behind the scenes golf stuff recently? The PJ Tour has gotten into it at the players. I need an hour documentary of how Zurich teams happen. Who's calling who? Like, what is it a text? Is it agents? How are the, even Brooks and Shane Lowry? Like, where did that conversation come from? Well, I can tell you how one team on the Notables list came together. I heard how the Howtog, Jordan Smith pairing came together. They're frequent practice round guys on the DP World Tour last year. And apparently Howtog is just the most hilarious person to ever live. So when it came time, I needed Zurich partner. Jordan Smith had one answer in mind. Yeah, I'd love to play with Howtog League. Absolutely. But I mean, I'm sure there's some within here that you're like, wait, I mean, again, keep reading, Andy, what else we got? Well, it's the last one. We're on the last one. Ready? Aaron, Rye and Sia, Zagala. I mean, I think maybe I'd say notable. I think maybe it's not not notable. Yes, that's kind of what I think too, PJ. I'm kind of with you. Well, does our one and done league have picks? No, ours doesn't. I'll look at ours doesn't. I have one that I do have to make one. No, the Fried Egg one and done does not have one. Because I like the McCarty, I think it's McCarty Meisner team this week a lot in terms of winning. I also will just throw out not notable because it was the way to add to the field. America's sweetheart, Sudarshan Yellow Mirage, you and Ryan, Brian Gerard. Well, you stepped up. That's kind of a nasty team. That's exactly what I think. I think it's kind of a nasty team. That's my team. That team is sick. Dude, Sudarshan's. By the way, how do you guys mess up his first name every time? Not you guys. Don't throw it at me. Every episode. Sudarshan over there. Don't throw it at me. Andy, say it to me. How do you say his first name? Andy, how do you say it? Sudarshan. There you go. You're done. You never have to think about it again. You nailed it. You got it. It's straight as hell. I'd love to play with Sudarshan. Our friend who pointed out the Dunlap Sergeant pairing titled this one fallback option, still with an eye on Sydney, sweetie, can Sudarshan overcome being Gerard's fallback replacement after Smiley declined? I'm going to tell you that. Sudarshan and Gerard might win this thing running away. I'm all about this team, too. Well, and then you have the gentleman in training and R&P. Who's Andy's other favorite team? Piss Bear Jr., Jacob Scovilles. I thought we were going to win. And Rassus, Gerard, Patterson, Peterson. I mean, there's some weird team. I mean, like Jeff Ogilvy is playing. Well, that is the thirstiest effort to get back in the Peacup Good Graces that I've ever seen. Jonathan Byron. Jonathan Byron's playing, I think. I mean, it's just like crazy. How about the Peacup pairing of Pendy and Mackenzie Hughes? Got it. You know, can't put up a bagel in a four-day Xeric. I think Pendy shall like 63 on Sunday. And so maybe he's coming in trendy. That's that's what I like to hear right there, Shane. Pendy is coming trending. That's a whole foursome of Peacup players, because you got Kevin, you and Tom Kim. And Brandt and Sneddiker's playing as well, right? In this thing? Yeah. Oh, my God, it's it. That's a foursome. Ogilvy, Davis and Keith Mitchell and Brandt Sneddiker. Literal Peacup. What are the captains have to play with each other for? Like that you don't need. They should be out scouting. They let's all three go out and scout a couple years ago. Two days. What are we doing here? We're doing DL3 played with Will Saltoris and Cam Young. Yeah, that's what I thought it was. That's that's what it's all about right there. Do you think do you think we got done? You think Davis was like, well, they're really good. They're good at golf. Yep. Yep. Just like I thought they'd be really good. Hit it far. Like scouting, you know, what are you scouting? Well, getting up. It's the first round of a golf tournament. Like, I mean, like they shot 68 or 73 or whatever. Right? Like if they shoot 72, are you are they scratching them off the list? Like, you know what? This guy can't can't hack it. Is he like maybe broke his club? Like, I mean, what do you look at? It's like a play with the boss or something. You just try not to make just try not to make an ass out of yourself. That's the whole point. Bad Thursday at the Wyndham can't put up on the Peacup team. Sorry, boys. Shot two over. Missed a couple shorties. We got to cook on some on some on some walk up music. We did. Brendan's going to come back a second year in a row. BP comes off a trip into the Thunderdome of walk up music that you and I are just cooking out. How about the pairing of Rafa Campos and Tosti? You know, I was thinking about who would be the most fun person to put with Tosti. And I couldn't quite come up with somebody. You know, it's funny. I feel like I think it's Sergio. I think Tosti Sergio is the best possible team. I think that's like my dream. I mean, Rafa Campos might be the most like mild mannered person in the world. I was trying to think, could you go complete polar opposites? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And I think we might have it here. Apparently a great letter writer. The best. I got to I got to be honest. If there was a draft of 10 players in the world to play a team event with, I think Tosti's in my top 10. And he might be in my top five. Well, you know, it's he's getting it out there. Yeah, I mean, just not. Not scared. You never have to worry about him not playing aggressively. I'd love to be on the first team. TPC, Louisiana, like, hey, man, I think it might be five wood just to see what he did to me. We might fight on one T. You know what you do is you say, Tosti, I'm hitting first because you know he's going to be hitting driver every hole. Of course, of course. You've got to just like I don't need you blasted it into the water when before me and before I'm hit. Yeah, let me just hit what I want to hit. There's some terrible teams in this. Well, on another good team note, I am at least moderately intrigued by the Penji Matt Wallace team kind of in there. Penji, I think that Penji's coming out on Matt Wallace because the time he like undressed his caddy. Yeah. Didn't he? There's a long time ago. Has any. Has a really long time. Did he win recently? Yeah, he did on the DP World. Yeah, I feel like he won. I feel like he's won recently. Yeah. The how about does this pairing do it for you? Oh, God, I just had it up. There's some ridiculous ones in here. I like the Garekigo Polar Maker shank dunk and pairing, obviously. Garekigo and Matt Kutcher. Do you think Kutcher is going to come on? How did that not together? That's what I want to why Andy? Well, how is this not an hour show? Like show me Garekigo and Matt Kutcher making this decision. It's insane. Do you think Matt Kutcher gets to the first tee on whatever first practice day, day it is Tuesday, Wednesday? He's like, oh, my partner is like, that's like his look now. That's interesting. Like, do you think that happens? Yeah, I got I I wonder if he introduces himself. Well, it's a shame that Grazerman has a partner already for this because Kutcher Grazerman pairing. I mean, it was right there. Mentors. Mentors. It's right there. You know what I my favorite favorite pairing is? The former problem team. Who is that? Nick Watney and Charlie Hoffman. Oh, man, is that what is in this field? I cannot be a real team. That's not a real team. That's not a real team. Nick Watney and Hoffman. I mean, you know, like I like I would love for roll out to be on this podcast. Like, what is he going to say to these things? This field can't exist. Like this it's can't this you get a two year exemption for winning this. Are we kidding? Are we kidding? What about Austin Cook and Jason Duffner? Come on. Like, come on. Can't I it hasn't been this bad before. It just hasn't. Like I looked back at the past fields. It has not been this bad. Hey, let me let me ask you guys a question. Take a guess at what Jason Duffner's O.W.G.R. is. Like 1800. I was going to say it's definitely in the four digits. One thousand three hundred and forty eight in the world. His last four starts Puerto Rico, MC, M.X. MC, R.S.M. MC, Sanderson Farbs, MC, T.30 at Procore. And then MC MC MC. Austin. His whole page, his whole page going back to 24 is all MC's one seventy fifth finish and a T.30. I mean, and Austin Cook probably is the one that got in the field. And then asked Duffner. Austin Cook since 2023. So 23 he missed 14 of 25 cuts. Had one top ten finish. In 24 he missed 17 of 24 cuts. That's so many missed cuts. And one top ten finish. In 25 he missed 16 of 25. 16 of 28 cuts. No top ten finishes. How is how is this event giving out full exemptions? Four hundred and X cut points to the winner. How is this real? How is this like these guys don't play in full field events? I'm telling you, Rory and Scotty should have gotten together and said, let's go win. Let's add it to the Wikipedia page. I don't know if those two need to. But if you're looking around, there are guys, Tony Fina, it's like a great example. Who's in this field, at least? But there are guys in the Grazerman. OK, there are guys that could use a win. Totally. That are like real players. Tom Kim is here. Tony Fina was here. But there are other guys in that ilk that need a win. And you're just not even going to show up. Like are there 20 teams that can win this? No, no, like 10. I mean, I actually I think there are, because I don't think there are any any great team. Well, that's that's true. Is that the 50 50 teams pretty dirty? This should be a corn fairy tour event. Yeah, yeah, I would take this all day. Bring it on. Nitties and I would love it. And then just to wrap it up, it just hurts to see your your heroes get old. It's kind of like, you know, Michael Jordan on the wizard that Ryan Palmer is just with Chan Kim, the tugboat. The tugboat is is asking, you know, heroes like players, a hero of this event. He played play with Jordan. He played with Scotty. Who else do you play with? Bubble, Ram, Ram. Play with like everybody. I mean, I do I do an hour doc on that as well. Give me all the docs on how these teams got. Well, is it the story that like he would just ask super early and everybody's just like, yeah, I mean, that's that's like when you're in ninth grade and you tell like your best girlfriend, like if we don't have anybody to date, let's go to prom together. Yeah, but it's yeah, yeah. Or or if, you know, if you're you're just trying, you want to bring someone and you're worried about competition, just ask it early. Well, it was that we found that Scotty video last year from like 2022 or whatever it was. When Scotty was like, yeah, Ryan asked and then I called like six other guys and nobody wanted to play. So I just told him, yeah. Was that Bubba? Was that Bubba that said that? I thought it was Scotty, but it could it could have been Bubba, too. I don't I feel like Bubba that happened for Bubba with something else. How about the James Han, Kyle Stanley? Kyle Stanley is in this field. I haven't seen that name in a while. You didn't say his official name. Thank you. Try to keep it clean. I got you. I got you. All right, that does it for for Zurich. We'll talk more. Oh, who's the wait for Friday? Who's my I mean, Brenda, I don't want to Aaron, right? I don't want to actually send that to you or not, the brand, so that's all that was ended to me. OK, he's actually taking Aaron, right? Yeah. Oh, um, I'll just, I mean, I'll join you. I used to darsher already in, I guess, Puerto Rico in mind, so I'll go with my jurid for that. Well, I can in ours, we have to pick one of the two guys. So I'm going to take Ryan Gerard then. All right. Next up on the schedule of the week. I don't know. Just making it up. PGA Tour Champions, the Mitsubishi Electric Classic Stableford, baby. T. Stiech-Sugarlof in Duluth, Georgia. The purse is two million dollars. PJ, do you know who that defending champ is? I mean, it's not too safe. I mean, I remember, I remember the event from last year. Is it Steve Allen? That's Jerry Kelly. Well, we know Jerry's not playing this week. Notables in the field. Stephen Allen. Affirmation. Nice. Nice. Stephen Allen. Alex Chaka. Stu Sink. The kitchen. Big Ern. Miguel Angel Jimenez. Zets Johnson. The Silver Slovak. Rory Sabatini. And David Tombs. How did Sabo get in this field? I mean, how would Sabo not get in this field? He's the guy who won a silver medal. Yeah. National hero. National treasure. What are you talking about, PJ? Insulting. Here you go. Top 11 of the available PGA Tour points list. Sabo. Top 11 player on the championship. You got the PGA Tour Champions eligibility ranking. I just pulled it up. I pulled it up. Other people, other people qualifying for this event, along with Sabo, on that same, on that same vein is Calc David Duvall, Jay Haas problem, Lee Jansen, Zatch, Jose Maria and Kenny Perry, among others. So what? Kenny, Kenny Perry was a problem. Kenny Perry was a problem. Problem. Ball striker. It's so good. Yeah. Yeah. He wore the transitions too. God, he wore the hell out of him. I called one of his senior open wins. I loved it. Loved Kenny Perry. Oh my God. Duffy Waldorf is in the field this week. That's how well we're going. I loved it. I loved it. I loved me a little Duffy back in my day. We're ready to go. This is great. Great event. Stableford scoring. This is going to be, this is my CTV. PJ, PJ, we haven't talked about this. I got to do the, you know, the final champ's events last year. Yeah. With Zinger. It was just the most fun three weeks. Just chopping it up. The events were great. Zinger was awesome. Loved it. Cookie was great. The whole crew, man. It was awesome. Can you pass this along to the powers that be that maybe want to, you know, cut this thing off and just ship it away for everybody? Because I hope, I hope, I hope for my sake. I hope for your sake. I hope for Zinger's sake primarily that this does not go away. It's not. They can't go away. I don't see how I don't think it's ever going away. You know, is he playing? You heard Duffy Waldorf's plan this week. Like he can't go away. I mean, come on. You're not pretty used to me. Do you want to know what my event of the week is? Oh, this, this could be anything. Uh, I don't know. What do you know about the legends tour? Is this the Euro champion store? Where are they playing? I'm, I'm somewhat familiar with this work. They're playing in Barbados. This is the Barbados legends. And it's hosted. The event is hosted by none other than Ian Woosnum. Oh, how are you not there? How are you not there, Andy? Who is in this field? This is a better field than than Mitsubishi. I got, I've got the field for you. I got, I made my own little notables for the please. All right. The, the, the headliner, according to the website of Scott Hen, who was the legends tour order of Merit winner last year and defending champion. Uh, Scott Hen had the club tour last week that was dirty at the major. He was, he was involved last week. He's coming off a big week. We love that club tour. Some other notables. Hendrick Stenson must be bad from the champion's tour because he's playing on the legends. How old is Hendrick Stenson? I think he's 50. Oh man, they are so lucky. They are so lucky. This guy's not playing on the champions tour. He would, he would destroy souls if he was playing out there. I don't know, dude. He came in like an uncompetitive T 47 last week against against the best players in the world, but he's warming up, warming up, just warming up out of the bullpen. Let him let him cook. Come on. You know, I, I take no pleasure in reporting this as a Stu sync fan, somebody who has campaigned heavily for Stu. You say, I didn't bring this up because we, you know, you guys retired. It was midnight Scotland time, but I'm going to get up on my soap box now because I should have brought this up on Sunday. I think we kind of got a thrown asterisk on Stu's win because Blandy wasn't there. And, and the Millley Westwood, I think I kind of like, and I love Stu. I want Stu to be the Ryder Cup captain. I just do it against the best. Now you play, you play, you play who's across the, across the core from you. Come on. I hope it was calling me up for last week. Liv cannot schedule events the weekend senior majors because they have too many guys that are relevant. Hey, Pete, PJ, I got, listen, I don't know if you've been checking the like Apple news lately, but they may have things that they're focusing their attention on. That's a little bit bigger than the champs tour schedule. For five seconds, it looked like Lee Westwood and, and Blandy were going to be available to play at the concession last week. It's a fair point. The issue is the magic sticks are, are soon, I mean, Polter's got to be near in the age of champs. Yeah, that's true. Polter, Polter might be a real problem in all caps on the champs tour. World, Skechers World Champions Cup. Ian Polter is about to be a, by the way, right now, my wife's putting my kids to bed and then when I go up there in a minute, she's like, what were you doing down there? Like, what were y'all talking about? I'd be like, we were like really focused on this, this 50 and over European tournament. Like that was at the hour mark though. So you're good. You're good. She went to bed right? We're going to get you out of here in a second. Let me finish, finish the note. Sorry, I got to my soap box too quick there. No, I'm just, I'm just sitting in the Polter. Is in this field. I see him. I see Levee, I see Levee bumming around the, the TV compounds occasionally at the majors. I think he does French broadcasting. From French broadcasting to Barbada. It's a bar going to win it. Uh, Soren Hansen and Jamie Donaldson. That's what I got. How Jamie Donaldson. Wow. I'll leave him that Andy. That's a name I have not come across many times in my champions tour research. He's got to be a plane on the legends tour. Hometown hero coming in for this thing. Yeah. So this, this is my event of the week. Uh, other last event, last but not least, I'm going to give you a screenshot of how I got here. I got here for the first time ever. I got here for the first time ever. I got here for the first time ever. I got here for the first time ever. I got here for the first time ever. I got here for the first time ever. I got here for the first time ever. I got here for the first time ever. I got here for the first time ever. I got here for the first time ever. I got here for the first time ever. I got here for the first time ever. I got here for the first time ever. No P. Huh? No P. Apparently. It's a bomb. You watch that on Golf Channel and you figure out the time sign from wherever you're streaming. Sign in the middle of the night. You figured it out. You can Google. You got chat GBT. You figured out yourselves. They're fine. I think that does it for today. You got any party thoughts? Oh, I'll give you a minute to talk about your whole one. No, I mean, that's, yeah. I mean, I made a whole in one today. That was fun. I texted you when I texted you, I made I was like, it's like, I made a whole in one. So yeah, it was fun. Would you rather had a whole out eagle or a whole one? So my club in Connecticut that I'm wearing this, this Brooklyn hat right now, shout out. They do on your locker. It's kind of the old school metal lockers, you know, with like the holes in them that are cool. And if you make a hole in one, they put a plaque on your locker of the hole in one. Okay. And so this is my first in my club. So I'll get the plaque on the locker. So I'm going to say the ace because they don't do that for a whole lot of eagle. But that's disappointing. Might need to send a letter to the club. I mean, it's a lot of like metal and engraving and stuff you're having to do. But we just opened the club not too long ago. And so it's a good start to the season for your boy. That's a great, great start to the year. Peach, how did you play at the foot of Wing foot? You know, I had a great day. USDA. I have a, I have a gin question mark. You know, we, we got talking points a couple of years ago about what is it. And I don't know because everybody calls it gin. I say gin. What do they say? PJ, I think they said gin, but now, you know, that was, that was, you know, 14 hours ago and I'm tired. So I could be misremembering this. But the rough was not all the way up. I, they only played you play East or West West. Oh, nice. Okay. So it was great. I had a great day. So now, as I, as I said on Twitter, I can now, if the Gulf Galaxy fitting video did not tip you off to me. Not being very good at golf, I'm happy that my scores will now be publicly posted so everybody can, can understand where I'm at in this journey. What's your fire? I shot a 94 thumbs up. That's great. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Pretty good on West, man. West is tough. Pretty good. Made a birdie. So that's, that's all I'm looking for. What 16 part, part five. Nice. Take it. Take it. I, but it was great. I had a great day. First time out there. PJ, they play that as a par for in the US Open. So good par, but we'll give you the birdie on this show. Hey, man. You know, I have no expectation that in 2028 I will be in a place to potentially qualify for the US Open. So I myself personally am counting it, but I had a great day and now I'm just, I'm happy that everybody can go make fun of me on the internet for sucking at golf because I do that enough myself. So now it's a group. Everybody's involved. It's a group game now. The reality that every golfer needs to. Yeah, you were, you were, you were lecturing me about this. Everybody sucks at golf. Factual. Like I, I suck at golf. Totally. I suck. I suck. I suck all the time at golf. That's what, why everybody plays golf is, it's the one sport where you always suck and you perpetually wonder why you suck and you're trying to get better. There was, there's a recent bar stool, the foreplay guy, not foreplay, the pardon my take guys played it like a, I think it was like a scramble against each other. And like, I love those guys. I think they're hilarious. And I mean, they're, none of them are good. And somebody asked what club they were hitting big cats, like, who cares? Like, what doesn't matter? And I just loved, I like video recorded it because I'm like, this is the line that you need to send people when they talk about their game. Like they actually are capable of doing X, Y and Z. Just go on and have fun, man. If you shoot a good number, that's awesome. But most of us are terrible. Yeah. And we all just are varying degrees of terrible. Yes. But that's, let me tell you those greens, not Long Island public course greens. Those greens are no, no joke. Some of those are, Did you feel comfortable driving through? Started on one. Started on one. Yeah. Played it in order. I had to put on eight. Green and sane one. Yeah. One is crazy. And then I had my last part of the day on 18. I hit a wedge over the pin and I, I had to put it like three feet sideways, like completely horizontal and tapped it. And I still ran like six feet past, which was great. And I was nowhere close to the pin. So it was great. I always love when you get the back turned to the, to the hole. Yeah. Andy, that's Tillinghast, right? As Wingfoot. My club PJ's Tillinghast. And there was a moment today where one of the guys I was playing with, my buddy Jeff had to putt again, like almost a backwards putt. Just to have any chance. The only Tillinghast greens that I'm used to are Beth Page. And let me tell you, not Beth Page greens at Wingfoot, not flat and not that, you know, nothing in them. So I had a great day. It was, it was, it was great. Thanks to the USGA for showing off their new app. Getting on the, getting on the press circuit. Wet and it's, be a shout out to the USGA. Shout out to the USGA. I was, I was supposed to come there, but I had a show. I would have, I would have asked to request it to be in your group. Well, you could, you could, you made a, you made our, our right for yourself today. That's a good point. Fair, fair point. Fair point. Not all of us get to just go play golf all the time. You know, so. Yeah. Yeah. That's definitely like seven rounds in Scotland in reverse. Yeah. I want to hear from you. Not everyone. No. All right. Shane, thanks for coming on. Everybody should go watch your show. What is on next week then? Yeah. Yeah. Next, next week and not, not, not this week, but next week and right after the golf ends, we'll be on Paramount plus. It's called scorecard. Joe Musso, who's a good buddy of mine and I are kind of in studio. And then we'll have like the, the bells and whistles of the guys out on the golf course, like Wagner and, and that crew doing their thing. But yeah, it's, it, it, I thought it was, it was like quick. I mean, we do, you know, 40 minutes on Saturday. We do a little bit longer on Sunday, but just to kind of give instant reaction to the signature events and a place if you're watching CBS golf to go to right after. So yeah, give it a look. It's on YouTube as well. If you want to go watch the ones from this past weekend. Awesome. Congrats on that. Peach. Thanks as always. We'll be back on Friday. Walk up music Friday. Brendan returns from Scotland. He's, he's. Tonight was his last night there. So we didn't want to have a recording and by the way, I think, I think somehow, some way this past through bedtime, I'm hearing no children upstairs, which means you guys might have just saved me 25 minutes of reading books. So to you too, we didn't save you the champion's tour saved you. The champion's tour. Once again, shout out to all the champions tour. And I apologize to everybody that made it this long that you listen or the, or you love the episode. I don't know where you're at. Yeah. If you made this log, you might hate your golf game and yourself, you know.