A Hero’s Burden: Director Sepi Makabi & Nova Festival Survivor Daniel Sharabi on PTSD, Faith, Healing

בוא עליי, מה קרה יגע לי לי דיסורי, גבירי אופן, נשמת שלך. לא, הוא חפש את המיצר, חפש את החיות. מה אני צריך כדי לחיות? שכוח את זה? אני אין בבחרי, צריך לחיות. תדע למי שאתה משה שאתה שם. אתה, אתה, אתה, אחד מתוחר ב-4,000 פיש. יציל מרות אנשים. אני עובד לך, אני צריך. בואו, בואו, בואו. היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר היוצר הי כי הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם הייתם כי הייתי מ�si'ל הייתי מ�si'ל הייתה ושבלב הייתה את הייתה כי הייתה הייתה כי הייתה הייתה כי הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה כי הייתה כי הייתה כי הייתה כי הייתה כי הייתה כי הייתה כי הייתה הייתה כי הייתה כי הייתה כי הייתה כי הייתה כי הייתה כי הייתה כי הייתה כי הייתה כי הייתה כי הייתה כי הייתה כי הייתהแตוד כי הפרוצה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הי הוא הייתי מ�siigning' הייתי היוצר himself and I went up to him and I knew he was a novel survivor and I said, היי, אתה היוצר ולוצר ולוצר את ההשאלה? היי היוצר ולוצר את ההשאלה? היי היוצר? אני לא הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי היי הי הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הייתה הי וששאלת כי הייתך הייתך הייתך הייתך היית מ�si היית מ�si הרבה. His pain as it's portrayed in the film has gotten a lot worse. His pain... It's going to get worse until it gets better. The only way it's going to get better is if he gets top notch care. Top notch care. Remember there's a ask your sister. There are a lot of well meaning therapists, psychiatrists, psychologists out there very few can help anybody. Unfortunately, he's got to get top notch care. All of these kids do. And all of the kids who were at the Nova Music Festival need to. This is a must. It's a must and what people don't realize about the Nova survivors is they were not in shelter when these atrocities happened. They were not in a safe room. It was happening right in front of them. So, Nairia, not only does he have trauma from what he's seen but he also was fighting back for eight hours and he killed a lot of terrorists. And do you think he is... How do you think he feels about killing the terrorists? And how does he feel about killing the terrorists? And how does he feel about killing the terrorists? How do you think he feels about killing the terrorists? There is a reason why he never said it in the film himself. Because he can't say it. Because he... Lisa and I were speaking and she said he felt... Maybe he felt bad because he had to take another life because he was such a sweet soul and he had to kill so many of those people. And I looked at her and I said, honey, he's upset that he didn't kill them all. Nairia is a beautiful human being. His soul resonates through the film. He never celebrated. He doesn't want to be a hero. So, I don't know. I don't know how to answer your question. Did he feel like he should have killed more people, terrorists who were coming to kill them? Not should have. Not should have. Wished he would have. Yeah, because that would have saved his friends. That's correct. That could have saved... Yosef. Yosef. From being taken. Yeah. There is a lot of pain. He won't talk about it, Richard. He's the fact that that young boy, that young man, went ahead and did what he did with the lip balm. I mean, who thinks of that? It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. So, there is a moment where the gun is jammed. They finally get into the tank. They take out a gun. It's jammed with sand. And they have no oil. If they go back into the tank, the RPGs that are going over their heads is going to kill them. And they came up with a plan right away. Let's use the tiniest bit of lip balm. The tiniest bit of lip balm. And that thinking saved not only their lives, but the lives of everyone that was around them. Hundreds of people. I think Daniel himself is blown away by it. The two of them are so proud. And that's what's so beautiful. Is they're so proud of each other. And their mom is so proud of them. Magnificent. What first drew you to Daniel and Naria's story? And how did you meet them? Our event was on a Thursday night. By Monday morning, him and Naria were in my car. And I was driving them to Dr. Orly Peter's office to get therapy. Dr. Orly Peter, who's also in the film, she has an office in LA, an office in Israel. Was she doing EKGs? What was she doing? She started with talk, and then she did a bit of neuro-stimulation with them. And she immediately calmed them down, not only by doing therapy, but letting the boys know that you have a community that cares about you and you're not alone. Yes, you were left to fend for yourselves for eight to nine hours on October 7th, and no one came to help you. And no one in the government offered them any service after October 7th. No one. For like a month, while they were here, no one reached out. So they felt the embrace. You mean here? What about in Israel? In Israel, no one helped them. After October 7th, the government was so overwhelmed. They didn't know how to help. They were able to help the communities like Reim and Neroz and Kfar Azad because they were communities with governors and governments. But the people of NOVA were kind of spread all over the country. How were they going to find them? There's still a massive effort to try to give help to the survivors of NOVA. So that's how I met the brothers. And they asked me after the therapy appointment, they said, So what do you do? I said, I work in, you know, film and television. And they said, oh, can you make us a video for TikTok? I said, okay, they wanted a TikTok. We want the world to hear our story. And can you come and make us a video for TikTok? So the next day I went to their house with my video camera to get their interview and the trauma was palpable. They were smoking pounds of wheat. There was literally like three pounds of wheat on their table. And they were just, the substance use was alarming. They have to. They have to. They have to right now. Because that's them self-medicating, especially when they don't have top-notch treatment. Once they have top-notch treatment, that doesn't become an issue any longer. Yeah. All right. How did you earn their trust to film such intimate parts of their story and trauma? I never wanted to make a film. So it just came from the TikTok clip. Like once you were there. I earned their trust because I went into it to help them. Does that make sense? Stop. You went there with the heart of a servant where there was nothing to get only to give. Yes. Yeah, I understand that. Yeah. And I knew in my heart at any given moment whatever I did, I would have to burn the tapes. Like if they came to me and said, we don't want to do this anymore, this is too much. That's right. I'd burn the tapes. Exactly right. Anything. There were scenes that they didn't want. We shot a lot of stuff that any other filmmaker would, you know, be doing, you know, any who. It was really powerful stuff that spoke to their PTSD, but we burned the footage. Because they didn't want it in the film. Good for you. That's kind. It's for them. And appropriate. Thank you. Were there any moments when you or your team had to pause for your own mental health to process what you were seeing in filming? It took me three months to look at the footage that we first shot. Three months. I could not open my hard drive. I could not, I handed it over. I gave it to my amazing partners. It's better than nothing. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I gave it to my amazing partners at Special Order. They uploaded all the footage. It took me three months. And Daniel was like, so how's your edit coming along? I couldn't look at it. It was so painful. The scene where Naria broke down at the club. He just had to go. Where he just, I knew that, I knew that nothing was ever going to change. I knew it. Going into that night, I knew that something was going to happen. I didn't, and I wanted to be wrong. I wanted to be wrong. I hoped, I hoped that they would go and... The guilt was too much. The guilt was too much. He couldn't be there. Yeah. While after the people had died and after people are still there, he couldn't be there. He thought he could. He knew he had to try. Okay. And he couldn't do it. That's all that was. He said he saw the dead body. Yeah. How did you decide with all that you shot what footage to keep in the film? Flashbacks are repetitive. What I learned from the brothers of flashback is the same visualization of something that you've seen over and over again. And in spending time with them, I realized that there were a few moments that they really were affected by. It was the moments around them that were affected by the death. They really were affected by. It was the moments around losing their best friend. It was the moments about fighting and shooting every 60 seconds. And it was the moment where they had the bloody young individuals that Daniel helped save. Those were the triggers. Those were the flashbacks. So I honed in on their truth. And we focused on that imagery. We have hours and hours of audio footage of Daniel on the call with his commander who's telling him how to fight. But the thing that stuck with us is shoot every 60 seconds because they had to count every 60 seconds. And it was this relationship with time that they had to play with to save their lives on that day. So we kept that alive, shoot every 60 seconds because every 60 seconds they knew they had earned another second, another minute of life. I didn't know why they did that. The reason that I've learned from Daniel is it's a rule of war. You shoot every 60 seconds so that you're not blasting through your bullets and you're keeping your ammo. So you're stretching your ammo and you're also letting anyone who's coming to get you. No, you're still good. And retreating, you're still there. So don't come because we're going to shoot. And this turned into a huge point of contention between Daniel, Naria. There was another gentleman, Daniel Blungosi, who was in the tank with them. And the police officers that were around them because the police officers were saying, What are you doing? You're wasting ammo. Stop it. Stop shooting. And I've become good friends with one of the police officers who was there. She's just a soul sister. And this is one of the issues. She's still holding on to that fight with Daniel because she told him stop shooting and he didn't. You understand? The level of trauma is so beyond understanding for the people who were there and experienced that. And they're holding on to it. Yeah, always. They're always going to hold on to it. But what happens is it can minimize and it gets better and better and better and better and better. And that way you're not stuck and frozen in a failure to launch. None of this happens after treatment. It just doesn't. Okay? It doesn't mean you're not going to have difficult moments. It doesn't even mean you're not going to have a bad day. But it does mean you're going to have a life that you can be proud of. That's what it does mean. I hope so. What did you learn about resilience from the boys? Daniel and Naria. If you have faith and if you are mentally strong and if you have a community around you, then you could do whatever you want. You could accomplish anything. Yeah. The best part of their support system was their mother and their aunt. And then even when Naria goes to Nome's house to tell Nome's mother and Nome exactly how their father saved hundreds of lives, that put me on edge. That was more than I could. That was a half hour break for me. That moment was so hard to watch being in the room with Naria and Arthur's wife and their other children who you saw sitting around them and their adorable dog. Because Naria wanted to have... It was clear to me that this was a trauma bond. And he was so deeply connected to this young girl and he wanted her to be a part of his tribe and his life. It was God. He kept on saying this is from God. God connected us. There is a reason why we are here together today. And I was happy to see that he had this moment of connection with Nome's family and he had found a new family. But I was also really scared for him because I realized that he was falling in love with Nome and I wasn't sure how much that was going to be reciprocated because Naria was in a really dark place. Is Naria and Noab together? They're not together anymore. It's okay because their families have become really close. So Noam's mom and Daniel's mom are good friends. They see each other all the time. They're in each other's lives. In the scene Naria says, you are my family now. That's true. I think it's probably better that they're not a couple. However, Naria is now in a relationship with a survivor of October 7th, another young woman who survived the massacre in, I believe, near Oze, which is one of the communities that was massacred and they're living together. How's he doing now? He is having a hard time with getting help. He's having a hard time with processing the trauma. Unlike Daniel, Daniel's been able to move past it and start school and they started a non-profit organization. Naria is stuck. There's days that I've called him, you know, like two or three o'clock afternoon, is there all time and he's just getting out of bed. How old is he? He's 23 now. That's typical for 23-year-olds. Yeah. I hope you're right. I hope it's not the PTSD. Oh, it's definitely the PTSD. I'm just saying the sleep isn't definitive or determinative. So, he refused therapy for a long time, Naria, and he didn't think, and he says it in the film, he doesn't think that anyone could help this level of trauma. How could you treat this level of trauma? You've never seen anything like this before. He feels like no one can understand him except his girlfriend, who was there with him and experienced October 7th. And so, together they've built a really beautiful life together and they're not really letting a lot of people into their lives. So, there have been periods of time where I've tried to contact Naria for like a month and I can't get in touch with him. I know he's alive. Daniel knows he's alive. And there's times where Daniel can't get in touch with his brother. Really? He won't even call Daniel back sometimes. There's times where Daniel has reached out to me or my husband because we've, you know, they're like our family now and he's concerned for his brother. He's concerned. He can't get out of bed. There's a lot of repetitive substance use. And finally, Naria finally agreed to get help in order to qualify for the government disability services and services that are available to them. But that means seeing a psychiatrist and there was a lot of medications that were prescribed, which is fine. You have to do what you got to do. But with that comes, like he was very dysregulated and he couldn't live his regular life on the medications. I think he was on a pulonopin. Okay, well, that's, listen, okay, I'm not going to play a doctor here today, but I do have a place with, you know, I don't know how many doctors I've got and probably 30, okay? And all that is, is a medication adjustment. So a lot of times the first medication isn't what's necessary or doesn't work out and you rule that out and you move on to the next medication. Okay, but Benzos were an error. You don't need to prescribe him pulonopin for this. You know what helped him? Mushrooms. No. What? What helped him the most was he was invited to go to a retreat in Thailand with a healer. Fantastic. And he went to this retreat in Thailand with a group of survivors and Chirrell Galan's dad, who was in the film. Chirrell Galan is the young lady who committed suicide. And this was the first time I got a voice note from him and he was like, I heard a spark in his voice. He was happy and I said, I hear joy in your voice. He said, yes, I'm starting to feel hope again. But do you see that's what we were talking about before we even went on camera? This is what top notch treatment does. He's in a protected, safe, supportive facility, right? That all day is just about getting him right. That's it. That's the goal. That's what these kids need. That's what all of these kids at the Nova Music Festival need. All of them. Okay? Or they're never going to live their best lives. Okay? They're never going to thrive in the world unless they get this thing handled. Now, all of them. All of them. Yeah. Yeah. Sepi, how are you doing after dealing with this for two years? I mean, you must be drained. I've learned that there is such thing as secondhand trauma for sure. And there was a lot of processing and I couldn't understand why there were days where I couldn't get out of bed. And there were days where I was super upset and I picked up a bad habit of smoking cigarettes because these boys smoked cigarettes all the time. Don't tell my kids. It was really hard. It was a really emotional process. I never expected to go through anything like this, but as we started locking the film and getting it right and honoring the brothers' wishes of getting their story out and honoring their mother's wish of showing what trauma looks like and their trauma, I started to feel lighter and lighter. And every time that we do a preview or like the more I release the film out, the less of the burden I feel because I feel like the responsibility is off my shoulders. It was my responsibility to these boys to share their story. Well, you didn't just help them. You helped every family at that Nova Festival. Okay? Every single one. Yeah. Okay? Every Jew in the world. Every Jew. I mean, look at me. Right? Yeah. I mean, and every right thinking American. Okay? Everybody should see this. Everybody. It was breathtaking. Let's get Daniel on the phone. So Daniel, my name is Richard Tate, and I own a place called Carrera Treatment Wellness and Spa. And it's considered to be the finest addiction and mental health facility in the country. And, yeah, and you guys are all traumatized. And when Yosef comes home, because he's coming home this weekend or Monday or Tuesday, correct? בי זרד השם. We got help. ברוך השם. Now, how are you feeling about that? Are you excited? I don't know how to say it or for you, but I'm like, my mind is a little bit out from the situation. I acknowledge that and I enjoy that and I cry for it. My family is all going nuts. Like everyone speaking only about that, like for the last 24 hours, not 24, maybe 15 hours. We, we, I woke up, my mom woke me up three o'clock last night. And I got on a call with Yosef Dad and he told me, that's it, you're not going to sleep for this weekend. And I told him earlier, and I told him I'm coming to you and we went, we went to Yosef Dad with the family, with the small family. And we spent some time with them till the morning. And I got back home, I slept two hours and I started again. We have the event here. Can I tell you the part about the film that really got to me? The most impactful part was when somebody asked you in the film, if Yosef was still alive and you snapped back and you said yes. Right? And for me, in that moment, I was like, he doesn't know if he's alive, but he's, and then I caught myself and I was like, uh-uh, he is certain he's alive. What was that process for you? How could you get your head around whether he was alive or not? And why did you land on absolutely he's still alive? Do you believe in God? Do I believe in God? Yes. Absolutely. So I know God because I saw him in my own eyes. Probably you had that experience in your life, but he was protecting me for, for 20, for, not 20, for 12 hours. And block bullets, thousands of bullets for me in RPG missiles and maybe five, six, seven, under tail, is it so hard? And I'm still talking to you and every 25, my friends dead and dead when they are 22, 24, 25, 27, 28, 35. My best friend is hostage for two years. We actually didn't stop talk about that, that Joseph, still in the party. It's, it's not funny, but it's a bleak humor that you got after, after that. It's, Joseph still party since October 7th, since in Katowai. You know, it's the holiday that we went to celebrate of 2023. It's two years. It's actually two years, like two days before it was two years. And I believe that God couldn't do that. He has to be alive. The clip on, on March, I think it was March 3rd. Was that what it was? March 3rd? The first one, the first sign of life. Yes. I believe it was March 3rd. Okay. So, you have, you have, you have sign of life. He looks, Joseph looks so strong in that. And after a year and a half at that point, right? To the character of him was, I can see why he's your best friend. Tell me a little bit about Joseph. Before I will tell you that every time that we got proof of life, big one, it was in a meaning point for me, for our group, for our community, for our nonprofit. March 3rd, it was the first video and it was two hours before the grand opening of the, of the center, we have community center, Brazilian center for mental health. You say that you mentioned that you have something very big in America. So we have not enough big, not big enough, but we have it in Israel. That on two hours before, before the grand opening, everything started to mess up. Like, after the benefit, the experiment is there, supposed to come and it can't sell. And a few big donors cancel. And then I was saying, God, listen, I did my best. Now it's your turn. I'm shutting down my phone and that's it. And I'm going in and I started to get maybe 15 phone calls and messages and I saw a video of Joseph. And I understand that he's with us, with me and supporting us and God sent me a message. Don't go around with you. And I hated a bit about Joseph. Joseph teach me a lot. Joseph never scream on someone. He is the guy that seen the guy in the side and go talk to them and bring him inside back. I also is the guy with the best values that you can learn from someone that is very young, but is very spiritual and very old in his mind. He had a very interesting life. My young brother died from cancer when he was 11, I think, maybe 10, 9. And I grew up and he went through a lot of things and we met in boarding school when he was 15. And we become very good friends. We were sleeping in the same room together. We did everything together. We were connected because we filled one each other and without talk. Joseph teach me a lot about life, a lot about how to talk to people, how to be human, how to communicate. He is my teacher, how to communicate with people. How's your brother doing? Much better today. He thanks to SAPI and Air Group that supported us a lot. I can tell that my life physically, I have to make it after and over. But in the soul, in the mind, Air Group, Air Pasalat, and my brother got into a big regress. He went back on his trauma like the first day. 9 months ago, and he started to go down and down and down and so on. Diving down, nobody can help him. If he doesn't help himself. That's not true. On my life, that's not true. I swear to God. You can be there for them, but if they don't want to get out of this hole, black hole, there is nothing that will work for real. Let me tell you what I want to do. Because I saw that film last night and I feel like I know you. I don't know if it's because I'm Jewish or not, that I went to an orthodoxy, should have a day school or not. But I noticed everything. I noticed that to fill in while he was smoking cigarettes, shaking like a leaf. I noticed you walking with your tzitzis. I noticed everything. It took me four hours. I watched this thing frame by frame. And I have to tell you that the only way you get from here to thriving is with top notch treatment. I don't mean a little therapy here and there. I mean top notch treatment. Now I've got a place. Explain a little bit more about... Okay. Well, that means you go to a place and I was hoping that the three of you would come to Carrera as my gift and stay as long as you need to. Now it's very expensive. It's $182,000 a month. I want nothing from the three of you. Nothing. The only thing I want is for you guys to show up together, cracked open and ready to go. I want you to be open. I want your heart open. And I just want you to have a possibility of this can be better. We'll do the rest on my life. There's nothing to do other than stay open. If you're open, everything works out. Because then the struggle right now, it's a struggle. I don't want the struggle because when you're struggling, what happens is you can't thrive. You're spending all your energy just trying to get through the day, not build a life that you can be proud of. And this is one of the most horrific things that has ever happened in human history. So you can... It would be impossible for someone not to have trauma. Okay? And my fear is when Yossith gets home, he's not going to go immediately into treatment. Okay? And get well immediately. Now, I know you got to do your things and you got to catch up with family and everything else, but at a certain point, a week or two in, whatever that looks like, okay, the wheels are going to start falling off. Okay? You can start going off the track and I'd really... It would be an honor, truly, an honor and a privilege to have the three of you, to take care of you like you are my own boys. Can I say something? Yeah. Yesterday we were texting with the producers, Daniel, when we got the news that Yossith is coming home. And one of our executive producers, Sue, said, those tosses are going to need love and there's so much pain. And I just wrote without hesitation, we are going to take care of them. I didn't know how. I didn't know how. I didn't know how, but I knew that we are going to take care of Yossith, be met in truth. And I come here today, and Richard says, I'm here to receive. And this is the gift of accepting and believing the doors open. I agree with what you say, without God, there is no way, when there is something to lean on in your life, it's much easier when you are without nothing. That's why my faith, I believe that, helped me a lot every day, especially today. In whole<|he|> memorria, we're not putting feeling. And I was looking for something to do, to be grateful, because it's like, it's one of the biggest day in my life, in my new life. 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וזה פתאום כפי. וכך, קצת קצת את הלבנות, תקצת לי את הלבנות, וכך כך תקצת את הלבנות, וכך עובד את הלבנות, כדי שזה עובד עוד, מי זה עובד? אדם. כי זה מה הייתי אומר. הייתי, אתה חיית כי זה הייתי? לא, אני הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי הייתי Like a dead life, dead life. דניאל, אני יודע שעכשיו זה כל הזמן כל הזמן כל הזמן כל הזמן כל הזמן, for Naria, for Yosef, Yosef's family, and the fact that you made time today to speak with us is so generous. I appreciate you, I appreciate all the time and openness that you've shared with me, and we went into this thing together not knowing what we were going to do, we thought we were going to make a TikTok video, but I really do think that our message and our mission of helping others and bringing awareness to PTSD is working. We are going to change the world and we are going to get people the help they need, and you, my friend, had a big hand in bringing Yosef home under the protection that his family wanted. This film didn't go out until he came home. And number two, you have found a place for him to come to and get help, the best help in the world when he's ready. And I want the three of you to come, because I know that you're doing well. I get it, okay? But he ain't going to want to come without you. And you'll come and you'll get infinitely better, because I know you're struggling, okay? You're doing better than most, but you're struggling, aren't you? Everyday, I know. Okay, so then this isn't an empty gesture, okay? My home's your home, for you and your brother and Yosef, okay? And I'm sorry that you guys went through what you went through, but all of you are heroes, all of you, all of you. I don't have the words for it other than every Jew in the world is proud of you and your brother and welcomed, is thrilled that this kid and the rest of the hostages are coming home. Thank you. Thank you so much. I believe that each one of us need to stand up. We have one situation in life that if we don't stand up, the history will judge us. And every Jew around the world, every good person, not only Jew, there is a day, this is the day of the history, we judge one of us as a people, what we did, what we're doing, what we will do with every action that will come to our door. You know, one of the things that guide me since October 7 is that something came to me, I didn't want that. I didn't want to go to nowhere, to fight, to survive, to do that, to do that, to travel around the world. It came to me and I understand that I have to choose. On October 7, it was to take the weapon and to fight, to help other people. And the day after, this is my action, this is what I did. You know, I fight. I fight on October 7, probably most, probably more than anyone, it was at Novoa almost. And I'm proud to say because I did it from a place very pure, but if I, on the day after fighting and doing such a big mission, I think every person in the world cannot give up on something, can say no to some Pachinkti in life that God gives you, and choose the good thing, the good part and do it. Thank you Daniel. Thanks buddy. Thank you for your wisdom. I really appreciate it man. Have a great day, okay? Thank you. I miss you already. I'll see you when you come into town, okay? You'll stay with me. All right. All right. I'm my friend. So we just got off the phone with Daniel and it hit me that this is the first time that anyone, I mean you've talked about, yeah, they're suffering and the trauma, but this shines a light on what it really is. And there really are two wars because you got the war there and then you got the war when you come home and it doesn't stop. You did that. Thank you. We need to acknowledge the fact that the mental health crisis that comes with war is something that we've always ignored and pretended that alcohol and a cigarette is going to fix. Always, with any war, with any soldier, with any veteran, there is an uptick in suicide rates across the globe and especially in Israel. People are jumping off buildings. People are cutting themselves. Daniel is dealing with survivors who are suicidal and calling him for help. He doesn't need to be in that place. We need to embrace them and we need to create a platform where we could help. Well, it's also healing for him to be of service because you can't think of your own problems when you're being of service to somebody else. You can't. It's not possible. So it is helping him to do that. He fell into it. I mean, that was God, right? Yes. And he fell into that. He didn't fall into it. He was directed into it because he's got the ability to empathize not just from an outsider's perspective, but he went through it with them and he treated half these people. He did. Yeah. So, that's the point where he needs help. Well, we'll see if these guys, well, listen, you can lead a horse to water, right? So if they show up, they're going to have the beginnings of their best lives to look forward to. Otherwise, this is the type of thing that gets worse, untreated, not better. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. So thank you for paying attention to the subject matter. Thank you for acknowledging the film. Our mission is to focus on PTSD and the trauma that a lot of people in Israel are feeling and dealing with, and they're not talking about it. Everyone is kind of stuck on October 7th, and we wanted to look at what happens after October 7th, life with trauma. And this film shines a bright light on PTSD, and we hope that we can galvanize other people just like we galvanized you to go out and find a way to actively do something and help victims of terror and talk about PTSD. Once the conversation starts, then we could really make some true impact. Listen, I don't know if you truly even can grasp what you did here, because I know how it works. You just put one foot in front of the other, and then magic happens, right? But this is a mitzvah for the world. Thank you. All right, you did great. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for having me today. We are done.