Can We Wrap Our Brains Around Team Kyle & Amanda? No. (RHOBH Full Recap)

Do you think producers told Kyle like hey you have to hang out with Amanda like your team Amanda this season? I don't know the only time I really thought that was at in this episode at the lunch scene with the two of them together Where Kyle had to pretend to be really enthralled by manifestation and journaling? Yes, and I don't know if I bought the acting but it could also be serious I don't know I had a weird thought that maybe Kyle is acting circles around all of us And she's trying to make her heart or life harder than it actually is on this show to show us that she can do it Yeah, it doesn't make any fucking I don't know what the hell you just said as here's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos it will be oh man, it's eight o'clock and so that'll make it a I don't need this spotlight I shine just fine Hi, I'm karma and yes, I am a bitch brav bros Good evening everybody welcome back to another episode of brav bros your favorite podcast from the bros for everybody For everyone's to listen I'm a co-host you're us all joined as always by the one and only Florence McGuit ski. What's up, dude? Not a whole lot. There's one housewife show on and it's Beverly Hills everything else is all done So it's not really a battle royale because Beverly Hills are probably losing that battle royale Yeah, but it's the one that we have left so let's just enjoy it What it is? I don't hate it right now. It's fine This I get started to come back down to earth a little bit. It had a good three-week stretch there where it was really good It's a travel episode though. Yeah, exactly. You know, it's a getaway day So you can't expect too much, but I just can't wrap my head around Kyle snuggling up to Amanda It doesn't make any sense to me because obviously Doreet and Kyle finally came back from the Hamptons seven episodes later So they're recapping that pretty much all we get up until we leave for Italy is Bopping around and checking in with people Doreet and Bose hang out obviously they haven't seen each other in a while It's like oh my god. We have so much to catch up on and Doreet's like flying high She's like oh my god the trip was amazing. Yeah Kyle and I were great. There was no drama We just let it lie. But it's like okay. Well, I talked to Kyle and it's like ah Yeah, this this really sucks it honestly for us It's been three weeks for them. It's been like four days maybe max a long weekend So it's not really that long of a Separation but a lot did happen in that three weeks stretch for us four days for them So we have to unpack it all I felt really bad for Doreet immediately because you can tell and I do think there is like I'm not agreeing with Kyle and saying that Doreet is manic But she's going through a divorce. She's going through separation. There's oh my god There are highs and there are lows and right now she's on a high And Kyle is gonna be the reason to push her back to a low unless she just does that thing where she simply doesn't care Where Kyle's gonna say which I don't think we're there yet But it just sucks to see because you want to see your be happy. I know and like I think that's what I got confused about It's like Kyle is so busy trying to diagnose Doreet and she forgets what Doreet's going through And by the way Kyle you're also going through this To a different degree obviously because you want to pretend like you and mo are fine And you're going to get back together eventually because you still love him That's great. I don't know why you feel the need to check dirt like what is this constant need to knock her down And be like you're not okay. It's not going well It's like it's an exclusive club to be separated from your husband on this show. You're not invited Maybe I'm gonna make this worse for you because this is my club This is what we do who the hell knows honestly everything that you just said makes sense to the the common person that's watching this To Kyle it doesn't she doesn't see it that way at all No, but I just I'm trying to understand. I'm trying to get where she's coming from and that doesn't make a whole lot of sense Ship of sailed sure fine But I don't want to go to the other side. We're doing a juxtapos scene and you get Kyle with Amanda And they're talking like their best friends like oh, I'm so happy to see you. It's been three days. Let's let's debrief What's going on and Kyle goes on to share way more about Doreet to the person that Doreet is beefing with What what why the fuck I have no idea and we try to do this It's a very special type of mental gymnastics for Kyle We've been trying to do this since day one this is gonna be your season Rememberance if you will that steal was the biggest Kyle stand in the world I was and he no longer is he can't even understand what she's doing. No, I don't I don't still trying and it's you know god bless him I don't even like her anymore I used to be a huge fan. I do think like deep down there There is like Something holding on where you're like I did like her at one point disappointment Maybe there's something in here that I can hold on to it. Try to understand. It's gone It's all gone and I don't know what to do about it Maybe that's why I constantly try to figure out what the fuck she's doing But when you're watching these scenes back and forth Boas is like well, and I'm glad she lays out exactly what was said. She's like well. She said your panic. Yeah She didn't have too much money. You're doing this. You're doing that I do read psych what Yeah one She spent $4,000 not that fucking crazy That just goes to show you that Kyle is trying to find things. The amount of money spent does not equate to oh my god She's spending way too much. So you can tell that she's just nitpicking. I need to find little things to drag to read about I think you you said something other last week or the week before I think Doreet being in a worse spot in her divorce Makes Kyle feel better about where she's at in life Yeah, I mean it definitely helps her case because she won't even admit that she's going through a divorce right So at that point is not we're separated. Yeah, and if some way Doreet and pk could be going through a much more amicable divorce thing what Kyle and Moe are going through It would crush Kyle So maybe it is one of those things where it's like uh We're not going through the same thing what we're that's actually probably exactly what it is We're not going through the same things people need to stop comparing us because we do know and maybe she doesn't anymore But like in the past we've seen Kyle living on the message boards living on social media looking at all the things that are said That are being said she doesn't respond But you can tell the very next season she does things that are opposite which is what the fans were trying to get her in show make like backhanded comments Yeah, yeah constantly So that actually makes the most sense out of any other explanation that we can come up with is that Kyle and Doreet are going through the same thing it's not as Tough for Kyle, but it's still a very similar thing I'm a bird to the same thing if she yells at Doreet and be littles what she's going through and tries to make it out like Doreet is really going through it. She's manic. She's OCD. She's all over the place Which by the way, I don't think OCD is something that just like pops up because you're going through a hard time I don't know enough to say I don't know I mean I would imagine it would be there beforehand But it could be triggered manic. I understand you know if you want to say that she's going through depression I understand that too. OCD like a lot of mental health disorders can get triggered by something. Okay, maybe I'm wrong Maybe I'm completely wrong who knows we're always wrong about something. That's true But either way yes, that makes a lot of sense the Kyle would be laying out all of these examples of to read really going through it So that people come to her and they're like how do you handle it? Yeah, you seem to be in such a great place I think that's what she wants. I think it makes her in her own mind look better even though she's going through the same thing Yeah, and in denial which is it's sad admittedly worse. Yeah, it's sad to watch at least Doreet knows where she stands You think that you're still going to get back together with Moe and he's pouring champagne on chicks and Aspen Wake up lady. You know what they call it Aspen I'm thinking of dumb and dumb right now and I'm like nothing's coming to mind. It was a little dumb and dumb. It's also South Park, but yeah Because it smells like ass. Oh, okay. Yeah cool. Oh, it was more. I thought you were just gonna get it It's never fun when you have to explain references. I don't I was gonna say because of the ass, but like that's not From anything. Yeah, I should have gone with the other route, which was Moe is pouring champagne on chicks ass Pin Yeah, whatever this is tough. Yeah, this is not your best word. No, oh the first one was fine. You just didn't get it So it just had to explain it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you could just let it lie now Rachel Is obviously going through a divorce uh as well. So again It's very funny to look across the board how people are being treated right now Based on what they're going through because we have three women going through the same thing essentially Kyle won't fuck with Rachel because Kyle knows Rachel will clap back at her So she lets that one lie she doesn't even comment on the fact that Rachel's even getting divorced. Mm-hmm Rachel is very front up front with her kids I actually really appreciate because it's a confusing thing. So she's explaining to her uh Sky and Kais Explain to them. What's up? And they seem to their way too old again. We get too well-adjusted Unbelievable to watch how mature a lot of these kids on Bravo are but their kids seem great I don't know where they're getting the money for air maize From her account. I was hoping so. Okay. They were there like with their nanny or that's a wild her assisted whatever it may Yeah, I mean the who whichever kid it was didn't even look over to see her open it He's just like oh yeah, he knew it was good too. He knew. Yeah, that kid's got swag. Yeah, they both do because she was like this is great He's like, yeah, I know. I was like damn. I got you damn that you're not that creep Kicking candles Anyhow let's keep trucking And my big question mark before we move on to our favorite money queen is are we going to see I feel like we're building up to Potentially seeing Rachel's husband or my fucking nuts. I don't think you're fucking nuts We might be getting there and just I have the ability feeling that like we're referencing into the season He pops up. Yeah, like I like foreshadowing perhaps that could be crazy I mean it wouldn't be the craziest thing in the world now Obviously, we just have to give like like release. He would sign a release form to be on it of course Which I don't think he would be necessarily against but if you're looking at just the storyline We talked about him in the beginning they were separated We got halfway through the season They're going through a divorce We're hearing more and more from Rachel about it So it wouldn't be crazier out of the realm to think the end of the season is going to be the two of them sitting together With like the girlfriend being brought up again in this instance made me think okay Maybe we're building up to meet these people because I could simply be that we're just getting a lot of family scenes with Rachel because of one She's amazing and two she's got a lot going on yeah But discussing the girlfriend at length this time and like how the kids feel about her Makes me think that they're gonna pop up quote-unquote unexpected at some point and we're gonna have this like oh I got to go handle this moment. It's a possibility. I will say Any other newbie it would almost be for sure that this was gonna happen Yeah, because it's Rachel and because she's been on the show before she has enough clout They don't need to do that right. She definitely doesn't need this But it would be her prerogative like obviously if she wants to have that kind of scene She knows that she can work it in there It's just I think it's way less likely for someone like Rachel versus you know Amanda if Amanda was going through something like that It would be a shoe-in that we're gonna meet the x by the end of the season Yeah, so I don't really know which way that's gonna end up But one thing I want to bring up about Amanda And this is just me trying to rationalize why Amanda and Kyle are friends. Yeah, Amanda bought Kyle's house What if there's something weird going on in that house and there's some rooms downstairs? Maybe like a vault of some kinds and Amanda bought it But they know what's going on in there and Kyle knows it's going on in there And she doesn't want her to talk about it. So maybe it's just like a secretive thing like I will be an alliance Oh, like as long as you don't share the secrets of my house. It's creepy wealthy people shit. Yeah I am like a blood bank down. I will always always Subscribe to those kind of rumors. I'm always down for that. It's the only thing I can think of because I can't imagine a world in which these two are friends I mean look mo looks great He looks really young for his age. So does Kyle What are they doing down in that basement in the catacombs of the wine cellar? I'm saying you're onto something we need to go investigate. Mm-hmm to go to Amanda's house It's a big thing to redo that tile floor in the beginning where it's like it'll throw people off the scent like oh, they're renovating Yeah, I mean across something while renovating. There's a fake floor I'm a different building to make a look like Kyle's because everyone said that under the tile floor was where they kept the lab And they're like look no lab tile floor, but it actually was in a they did that in a studio. Yep. Beverly Hills. Maybe magic Do you think we fucking landed on the moon? Come on. Yeah, good idea. What are we doing here? Yeah But let's get to Amanda. I don't I don't think that we didn't land on the moon. I would like to clarify I'm confident very confident that we did anyway Let's talk about Amanda's wedding planning. There's one dead guy on the moon. I didn't know that one dead guy Yeah, that's a Russian astronaut or something. I would I I think I would like to be the only dead guy. Yeah, it's pretty cool. I don't know his name. So I mean that I don't know his name either Yeah, but you didn't know there was a dead guy. No, they surprised us the moon. We've got a lunar hat on right now I know I'm a big space guy. I had no idea. Yeah, I do you learn something new every day? There buzz light year Okay, Amanda's wedding planning this I don't know this to me I felt like again She just wants to talk about how much money she has I don't even know if she was planning on getting married this soon I think that she sped everything up for the cameras. Well hot air balloon and This sounds like when you ask a six-year-old like if I went and asked Poppy who's nine You know that that's true by the way, right? What because you can just immediately bring that back to her fucking dream turtle of owning the Barbie house Bingo yeah, there you go exactly with that is same thing. It's like I'm six years old. I want our horse and a helicopter and I want Shit what else did she have there? They were dropping hot air balloon. They're dropping like rose petals or something Yeah, I want to wear honies and unicorns and flying things all of it and I guess they already got married right I didn't see any pictures from that which I'm thrilled I didn't have to see anything but I just I don't know why Like they must have some weird sex thing going on where The husband just loves getting cocked or something Why because I don't understand why every time you have to talk about something that involves you in your husband You have to shit on his finances. Yeah, it doesn't make any say it makes no sense to me. It's belittling. It's insecure She's like he again. We've heard twice this season maybe more financial massacism I guess yeah, he's a financial massacast Sadomassacast he likes that shit. I have to I have to assume because if not I think it's ludicrous that for the second time we've heard verbatim I make more than he makes in a month I make more in a month than he makes in a year. Why do you keep saying that? Why are you acting like your husband's a fucking deadbeat? Can you say there's so many different ways to say it My husband works his ass off You know his job is in his lucrative his mind, but I appreciate everything he does You don't have to just shit on this guy and drag him. I look at him now as inferior when I see him on my screen I'm like look at this little bitch boy. By the way for your theory. He's getting off to that. Oh, he's really enjoying that He's really enjoying that actually keep talking about it. Yeah, I'll say it again. He's so close. Yeah Tell me I'm not tell me I'm worthless. Tell me my job is meaningless. Oh, yes Honey come in here. I'm ready Now I do think obviously aside from the very glaring issues with Amanda my biggest problem with her Even if I just look away from all the other shit Every single scene that she's in just feels perform it. It's fake. He's hell. It is so fake It's so scripted. It's so I wrote this down like two days ago trying to figure it out. Here's your lines honey Here's your lines like if her kids could talk she would have lines out for them. Oh, yeah For sure this is exactly the road that we're going down and I know that's the world that we live in with housewives A lot of the scenes are very performative a lot of the scenes you know you question a little bit You're like okay, I knew that you guys were gonna do this so just get it over with with Amanda It's every single time she's on the screen everything is all wealth not well thought out But it's thought out and it just goes down this path of like I I don't care if you're full of shit because I don't really care about you But I also don't think that these scenes are adding anything to your own personal storyline to the show It's just like okay, let's get this over with she's not doing herself any favor now Because there's no scene. I've seen with her yet where I'm like, oh, she's likable. Oh, this seems normal I don't know what her personality is. I don't know who she is. Yeah, like and that's part of the facade of being the money queen I guess is that who that is who she is it's not though We don't know who she actually is and then you get scenes like this where it's like okay That's usually when we get a closer look at a housewife is when they're with their family It's like okay. Yeah, this is a nice scene in the midst of a lot of other shit going on that we don't really know about But we get to watch you with your family. We're like okay cool. You're a good mom like I guess a good mom, but like what else do we have for I don't even know I like what her relationship with her children is like I don't know because I don't think that the scenes we get with the family are genuine either I think everything's fake and played up And I think when you look across the board where you say you know, she actually is the money queen that's who she is Yes, but no She wants to be this character that she portrays She wants to be this person that exudes wealth and you know success and this that the other she's like AI First AI housewife. Yes, honestly. It feels like she's reading a script off of chat gpt the difference in so many other housewives Yes, we get a lot of performative scenes. Yes, it's over the top This setup might be like oh, we're gonna go do this at this store simply because I want to highlight xy or z Yeah Hers is a different level of it feels like everything she said was written down on a q card But that's the crazier thing because you're taking the time to write it down and it still doesn't land no No, no, it still doesn't land and obviously I mean you can just look at her career What she does also doesn't land no not surprised that her performative scenes also aren't landing But I don't know either way it's still just such a weird duo with Kyle and Kyle and Amanda sitting down and the way the Kyle goes about this while she's sitting at that lunch In a weird way when they first walked in and they walk in separately in my brain They're matching like they're wearing the same like that's where they've gotten where it's like you guys are somehow weirdly best friends I can't figure it out But in my brain you guys are like coordinating your outfits to go hang out. It's bizarre makes no sense to me But the way that Kyle's going about this Like why are you divulging any information about what's going on with Amanda like I think we have gotten to a place and We'll talk about the Sutton conversation later with Amanda But I think we've gotten to a place where you guys were away for a while the heat kind of died down a little bit Maybe Amanda won't go as hard with Doreet Maybe she won't bring anything up with Doreet and we can move past all of this because it is bizarre and I don't really understand it But the way Kyle goes in it's like oh you're never gonna believe what happens like let me tell you everything It's like you already told Bose that do you not expect Bose to go tell Doreet now? You're gonna tell Amanda who's gonna interject in a weird way in Florence and Probably blow your cover completely. Yeah, like you are you're setting yourself up for failure It just gives more credence to Kyle doesn't care Like she's just checked out or maybe this is the only thing that she knows how to do anymore It's like oh, I got a poke Doreet got a poke Doreet Maybe she genuinely hates Doreet Maybe she's got a deep seated issue with her that we don't know about And the second that Amanda made it known that she was against Doreet Kyle's like well then I'm on your team Yeah, just against her But I can't figure out what it is because when you look across the board is what's going on right now You guys were cool you were in the hamptons you were cool like you said it was kind of settling down I'm sure to pop up in some capacity later But before you even have the chance to talk to Doreet or see Doreet again You have talked to Bose who is arguably her best friend right now Who's definitely gonna tell her and Kyle's not dumb you know she's gonna tell her So was that on purpose was that a setup the way that you discuss her two Bose and then to Amanda Bose who I'm glad that she had that scene with Doreet and she's like you know, I'm honestly basing all of this off of what Kyle said about you right right she said you're a manic she said you're this She said you're that look yeah, maybe you're a little over the top Maybe a little stressed out sometimes give him what you're going to that makes sense But I'm not getting what Kyle's saying then you cut over to Amanda and Kyle talking And Kyle's diagnosing Doreet to Amanda everything that she said to Bose She's replaying to Amanda and Amanda now gets to sit there and feel emboldened Which is gonna give her fake confidence which is gonna have her like you said Sit down at a table in Florence to read and pk are gonna come up Amanda's gonna say something stupid. Yeah, here's my opinion I know you didn't ask for it And I know that that's been a source subject for a while But let me tell you what my opinion is based on my behavioral therapy that I took in college Yeah exactly that's gonna go super well And like I'm okay with it honestly and again I think if it was coming from somebody else and we saw all this kind of like playing out Whatever it's just the Kyle's doing the same shit that she's been doing for the last couple of years Five these six years at this point Amanda We don't really like Amanda and we don't really want to deal with it like if it was somebody else bringing some opinion to Doreet Like yes, of course that's gonna be good stuff when we get to Italy It looks like Erica gets involved Kyle's involved whatever it might be that's gonna be a little bit more entertaining But Amanda being involved doesn't really wet the whistle. No, just doesn't get me going No and because what is she gonna do When push comes to shove she's gonna tap out. Yep. She can't handle it. She can't hang We've seen that happen Sutton clock there you can call her a wimp because she's not in or you're not in her house Yeah, you call her wimp whenever you want. Yeah, Italy Not in her house Italy you can definitely call her a wimp But it is it's just setting up this perfect storm and then Kyle's gonna play a loof and play like oh my god Like why is this coming back on me? I never know what to do when she does talk to Erica Was the one time I'm like yes, this makes sense Kyle like maybe we should go to Doreet together and and The framing of it again, and this is because she's with Erica And it's very important to note who she's talking to and how she talks about it Because to Erica it's much more we need to figure out a way to support I know Erica was driving that one forward more so than Kyle But Kyle's not interjecting going Doreet's a nightmare. She's spending too much. What can we do because she's clearly not listening to me So maybe she'll listen to somebody else You know what The lack of self-awareness into why she's not listening to you. I can throw out the window I don't have time or the mental capacity right now to try to break that one down This is what you should have done Episode one of this season. Hey, why don't we go check on Doreet not hey Amanda who doesn't know Doreet Let me tell you all about her divorce and why I think that's all happening and why I think it's a bad idea In the meantime, I'm going to ignore my own advice to Doreet in hey, don't say anything to incriminate yourself or make yourself look bad in court I'm gonna do that for her Yeah, I'm gonna tell the judge and whoever wants a character video that Doreet is manic She's bad with money and she can't be trusted right now This show is sponsored by liquid IV you're gonna have a hard time transitioning from those indoor Hibernation sessions to outdoor saturation. 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I keep coming back to this I know we've hammered this one home be to dead horse to death Again, yeah, but I it's just when you look at the setup of the season the setup of the last five seasons It doesn't make any sense. This is nonsensical between the Amanda of it all and the fact that she cannot keep Doreed's name out of her mouth And this will somehow Flip back and be Doreed's fault and I don't know how actually I do know how because when they get into it She's going to lean on the mental health part of it Like the stuff that Doreed's going through yeah, she's going to ignore her own stuff But she's gonna act as though this divorce is sending Doreed down this awful spiral Which is manipulative opportunistic and there is a road that you can push that in which other people will believe it yeah, and you know that and that's slimy I don't know Did I get back to that? I don't know is this for your storyline? Are you just conditioned to do this to Doreed now? Are you bored? Do you not care about this show? So you don't give a fuck what what's going on? It's just all that she's projecting like that's the answer That's what I think she's just projecting. I don't think it has it's Kyle Richards. She doesn't care about the storyline She never has she doesn't care about the storyline. She's not doing it for that She's not doing it in a malicious way either It doesn't make a whole lot of sense that she would do something to actively hurt Doreed while she's going through the toughest time in her life It's just all projection. It's all you're going through something. I've seen enough people say wow You guys are going through the same thing you guys should talk more It's not the same thing because I still have a chance to get back with Moe and she doesn't yeah But I'm going to try to quote unquote help her by telling her hey don't talk about PK the way that you're talking about him because it's going to come back and get you And she thinks she's so righteous in saying that Doreed knows that and also she's a grown fucking woman Yes, she's on the show she knows what's going to happen This isn't the first divorce or separation never happened on Bravo. There is a Long history that you can read through look at all the different examples and say okay Yeah, I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that because that came to bite her and they asked whatever it might be Doreed is More than capable of figuring that out for herself. You're not this like God character that's coming in like oh, yeah Doreed don't do that. I'm going to help you out here like you're not helping you're actually hurting the situation That's actually a really good point The way that Kyle portrays herself Especially when Doreed's not listening to her quote-unquote advice Is as though she knows better mm-hmm And I think that's the root of a lot of this stuff is that clearly I know better than Doreed of all people look how well my separation is going yep You could argue that Dorita is going better because she's making progress. They're moving towards closure You're in the same spot you were in two years ago and let's Let's take a second and talk about what you were doing when you and Mo first got separated Dorita didn't blow up your spot. She came to you and said hey Do you think that the abrupt sobriety and working out four times a day every day for the last three months? Might be you going through something that's what a friend does yeah, but that's not what she did And so now she's looking at a situation that she's been through You caused all kinds of uproar with your quote-unquote friendship with Morgan Wade you Talked all about your marriage on camera everything wrong with everything and you had a complete meltdown on TV for an entire season But we're gonna throw that out the window and we're gonna look at the reading say this is nuts Yeah, and that's pretty much what's going on and if you remember correctly going back a couple seasons The way that Dorita handled the Kyle situation she was always doing it from a place to concern Yeah, so you can go back and if you want a nitpick and look at different things that Dorita said about Kyle and Mo And what was going on and all the things Kyle was doing whether it was with Morgan or not with Morgan while she stopped drinking worked out all the time It was always I'm worried about Kyle Concern and I don't believe that there's the same level of concern even when Kyle uses the word worried or concern When it comes to what Dorita's doing you're doing something to push Her behaviors to other people would be like this is wrong. Yes. She's going through something and she's doing it wrong Not I'm worried about her because she is doing these things. Yeah, there are two very different things and Kyle's not going about it that way No, that's a really good point. That's a good way to put it, but Let's get to Florence Italy always makes me feel better And I like the setup, you know, Bose was very strategic in her departure There's different groups going at different times now before we leave Dorita's late again Could that be because of everything going on perhaps Dorita has been known to be late to everything? I don't think it's that ludicrous, you know, Rachel is now She's looking at it differently like okay first time I can kind of yeah, give that bags in 30 minutes and she's still not here. That's a little alarming I don't know why the 2 a.m. Glam came up from Kyle or it's like she had glam at 2 a.m. Clear Who cares? I don't know yeah housewives get glam at all times at all hours in all places. That's not crazy Doesn't fucking matter. I think that's my problem is when he list the things that Kyle's listing I'm like that's to read maybe it's maybe it's amplified a little bit right now But can we understand why like why is it where why are we following her microscope there? She's she's extra Duret right now. There's no level of understanding. That's exactly what you just said So yes instead it's let's jump to judgment. Yeah, she's late because she's doing this. She's always late She's a little bit later because she has to figure out where her kids are going something that she hadn't had to do before So she's already late at a base level Add in the other things that she's going through. Of course. She's going to be a little bit later than she usually is And she'll probably apologize when she shows up. Yeah She'll probably say oh my god. I had to rush here and instead of being like oh my god to read like you almost missed the flight I can't believe that you did that are what's going on? What did you do? What were you doing for the last couple hours and try to grill her? You could say ah it's okay. He still made it on time. Let her go. Let her have a small victory that she got there on time That's all we're really looking for but instead it's a quick jump to judgment and not a Look a Duret's going through some shit like we understand we'll make sure she's here I'll give her a call. I'm looking at her location. She hasn't left her house yet But you know we've got 30 minutes to bags. I'll give her a call in like five 10 minutes if she hasn't left yet Boom that that's what you should be seeing and instead you're seeing oh god She's probably getting glam she's probably going through this and that and I don't know you know she's going through a lot So she might not make this flight. It's like there's no level of understanding No, and I think that's where I get so frustrated looking at it because on paper She's going through a really hard time arguably the worst period of her life I don't know her whole back story But I would imagine this very public very nasty divorce from this very douchey guy Is probably rattling her a bit. Yeah, you would imagine but I just will never Grasp how she can go through that how people can remind people in the group that she's going through that Rachel can give a great speech at a dinner table and say hey I think we all just need to be there for each other we're all going through certain things That's just support right guys right cool That can happen so many times but when push comes to shove and we get to the moments where Kyle has the opportunity to check to read She takes it every time yep, I think you laid it out perfectly Like that whole scenario could simply be chopped up to Hey, let's not get on her about this one. Yeah, let's do a letter go Like like she's clearly going through something you're talking about her going through something But you can never say I will just let her go like it's not really impacting us she got here on time whatever who cares When Kyle was going through her shit and having her meltdown season Everybody was trying to be understanding they were worried they were concerned Kyle's abruptness and her I even know what the word is but whatever she's doing right now is now starting to rub off on the other castates So now everyone's looking at three going oh here we go. I firmly believe that's what's gonna lead to our Snafu and Italy between Erica Jane to read and Kyle yeah, I think that Eric is gonna be at a point because she's been talking to Kyle too much where she's like Kyle I get it. This is too much. Yeah, I think Eric is also in a Some weird position where if to read brings Erica into something that she's not actively in She'll just lash out. Yeah, I don't fucking bring me into this. I'm not dealing with this shit You've got your own chick going on. I've got my chick going on. Leave me. That's probably more what Eric is gonna do But the funny thing about Italy and I don't know why we have to lead up to this but Sutton saying I'm gonna I'm gonna room with uh I'm gonna room with Amanda give her the ground rules Why are you gonna room with Amanda? I I think there might be an ulterior motive here like let's not put Amanda and Kyle together because I don't want to deal with that And I who knows what's gonna come of that that if Sutton thought far enough And I just let those two up that would be stellar house wifeery. I think you're giving her too much credit I am definitely giving her too much credit could have also been bozes call because I could see boze coming up with that like uh Yeah, let's let's not deal with not doing that either way we have to lead up to Sutton's gonna room with Amanda because I Really give it her a fair shake. I feel like you know She didn't say we got off on the wrong foot, but it was very much like that and more I don't really know her and when she said I don't really know her and I don't know what she's about I mean, I know what she does, but I don't know what she is I'm like, yeah, that's actually exactly. Yeah, we've been watching her for weeks. We have no idea who she is. Yeah exactly Well, perhaps Sutton's the one to crack that code. I look Sutton has the ability to not talk over people That's so that might be enough to just let Amanda start talking Again, it's all gonna be bullshit. It's all gonna be random stuff that she wants you to know But at least you get a better idea of who Amanda is and that's kind of what we see pretty much as soon as we get to Italy Sutton and Amanda are sitting down and Sutton kind of slinks into the room like I bet you're wondering why I requested to stay with you Yeah, why did you request to stay with me you weirdo? Well, I just feel like we haven't really gotten a chance to know each other So I this is a good opportunity to do all of that. I'm gonna let you talk. What do you think about all this? What do you think about Doreet and PK? Do you understand now why your opinion isn't gonna land? Do you understand? Why this is gonna know I don't and look I have my graduate degree in behavioral therapy when I was taking classes They talked about this all the time so I do actually have a really good intelligence level on all of this And informed yeah, now once you go from I'm interjecting my opinion to it's an informed opinion So I am gonna tell you I have the right to say it that tells you everything you need to know about Amanda Yeah, the minute that she uses her degree in that level in that way Tells me exactly who she is Everything that you're doing is all projection because you're wildly insecure Mm-hmm. You don't have any real friends. You don't have a real personality You have you have adopted this personality of the quote unquote money queen Because people that buy your product make you feel good. Yeah, but real people that you hang out with Don't like you because you don't know how to turn it off And you expect everyone and we know this for fact Because of how she reacted when they didn't buy into her journaling thing She's so used to people just placating and just giving in and just doing what she wants them to do I'm like, oh my god Amanda you're the best You're with a bunch of very accomplished women who don't give a fuck and you don't know how to change who you are And that all comes out in this scene with Sutton when she's talking about the Doreet stuff Yeah, I know better is what she's saying to her Hasn't been through it doesn't know what they're doing through it all But she went to a college class one time and her degree allows her an informed opinion So no Sutton I don't agree with anything you're saying and I'm pretty sure in this moment Sutton is hitting herself in the head going Fuck, I shouldn't have room with her Yeah, probably but at the same time I still appreciate it because even though Amanda is who she is and we already have an idea of who she is You still have to give her every opportunity to show who she is that's true And this is probably the best opportunity that we're gonna get because I don't believe any of the conversations that her and Kyle have Because I don't know what Kyle's motives are. I know what Sutton's motives are. Sutton's motive is I don't know who you are I'm going to let you talk as much as possible about any subject that you want I think she's also hypersensitive to her early seasons and feeling picked on and ganged up on it could be some of that I still think that the the basis of this motive is Yeah, I mean everybody kind of hates her and she sucks So like let's just give her an opportunity. I'll take the fall But there could be some of that mixed in there I don't know if Sutton would ever tell us that but it could be something like that along those lines now The two things that I want to point out One We are obviously just gearing up for Kyle versus to read. I mean we've seen that we've seen the clip from midseason trailer from this trailer before the season the other part of it is Still waiting for Amanda to go home. Yeah, when's Amanda getting off the show? She doesn't go to the reunion She's at the reunion I think no, they haven't done the reunion. Maybe that's a lie I know and that brings me to my point I said this for Salt Lake City and it's actually coming to fruition. So now I'm on a heater. That's true Salt Lake City had the big issue of influencing social media talking other people They finally enacted a rule supposedly and a lot of people are running with it where they can't do that And they're having a hard time with that apparently because they're filming already but When it comes to the bloggers out there that what I keep telling us that people go home in the middle of the season shut up Yes, stop it and enough and if you're wrong and you put something out there and people run with it You should be banned from using the hashtag for the show that you used That way it doesn't creep into my shit. I agree because it's not fair for us to be like yeah, you shall be gone soon And every week there she is again. Yeah, I just I don't know how to handle it, but Italy looks fun. I don't know where we are in the season I episode 12 episode 12. Thank you. I appreciate it. We got like six more I don't know yeah probably five to six more. Yeah, unless they do what they did give us 25 episodes again What is Beverly Hills is Thursday night. I'm gonna try to do it this way. It might be replaced by Rhode Island would be too soon so would Atlanta No, there's another housewife show coming out at some point around there Miami's on a hiatus apparently now they're yeah, they're talking about getting rid of people apparently gurdy and Girty and I know Adriana's on the chopping block, but gurdy is like firmly on the chopping block um And then they said that there might be a surprise person leaving Stephanie said that she may not come back to apparently It's really expensive to fill Miami. That's the big problem. Oh, I didn't know that yeah, I think Larsa commands a huge paycheck instead of the Lexi Get rid of one of them. Yeah, yeah, that's okay. I would take that I could do without Larsa. I could definitely do without Larsa But uh, let's see what everybody else thinks about this show. Yeah, I'm sure everybody's having a great time. Yeah Yeah Nope Not many questions at all a lot of people just kind of saying uh Well A lot of people saying are you still doing the show? That's you guys listen. So yes, yes, we're doing it Uh, let's just grab let's grab those from uh Jacqueline Michelle Cress which plane are you hopping on Bose Erica and Tilly? I think I know the answer yeah, yeah Yeah, what do you think? Of course, that's the answer The other question in here that's a legitimate question with everybody else not saying that we're still covering this Mary had a little is asking if we're gonna be covering ladies of London Sure are sure are we're gonna do ourselves a little super sized episode for episodes one and two because they double released and didn't tell anybody So we're gonna do a super sized episode on that and you'll have that this week before the new episode comes out Yeah, I loved that I watched episode one. I didn't know there's a second one to watch so many people I'm having a hard time remembering names, but I'll be good by tomorrow. Oh see. I that's so much I liked it I remember the majority of their names. I don't think those two are mutually exclusive for me Like I really enjoyed it, but I couldn't remember any of these names. They are mutually exclusive for me My brain works when I like something. That's fair usually usually Is it mica? Oh, you're gonna go through them this see? Mm-hmm. Lottie mm-hmm mark Francis mm-hmm Um Martha mm-hmm. Well Martha is a fucking star. Mm-hmm. Yeah, Martha's great Margo yep Did I get miss you already you got miss you already? Margo two by my count Dara yep one more. Oh, not for long. She'll be gone after next time. Yeah, that's my heart too Last one. Oh, this would be I'd be very proud of my first the biggest one Is the biggest one yeah well the most higher up on the food chain. I'm like going through faces right now. Oh Doesn't start with an M sounds like it's stuck on an M Literally starts with an M It literally starts with an M fanatically starts with an M Oh god, you just fucked me. I don't know. Oh Emma. Oh Emma. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that was pretty good though That was pretty good. I'm pretty impressed So yeah, you can look forward to ladies of London. We're excited to cover that and we got a bunch of new shows coming back in the next like two three weeks Well, yeah April Beginning of April is both Rhode Island and Atlanta. Okay, so we'll have that and then we'll obviously you know southern charms almost over He's gonna get the full swing and I'm sure there's other things that we're missing out on but they'll be back Yeah, buddy, they usually are But uh, that's all I got you got anything else. Nope. 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