1365 - Vanessa & Her Husband are Into Couple Swapping, Threesomes, Water Sports & More

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Or just go to the description and click on the link. Okay, so let me get to my guest today. Her name is Vanessa. She's really cool. I really liked her. She was like so much fun to talk to. she talked all about how her and her guy her husband got into the lifestyle but they did so many different things before that she talks about how and when they first met how he was into water sports and how he brought it up and then what they did with in regards to water sports because they got into it she was into it and she's really into women she talks about her experience with women and then how they started to hook up with women when she was married she kind of cheated on her husband with a girl. She talks about that. And then they eventually get into the lifestyle and she goes into that whole story. She talks about the first experience at a club and then the experience with the couples that they have hooked up with. And she talks about when they plan and what they plan on doing in the future. She's a lot of fun. She's got a lot of really great stories. She loves being in the lifestyle. She feels like she found her place in life. She's super happy and she talks all about it. You're going to love her stories. But anyway, I'm going to get right to going to be right back on with Vanessa. Hi, Vanessa. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm doing good, Vanessa. Vanessa. I'm doing good, Kathy K. How you doing? Listen, I should have made up a fake name. I mean, my real name isn't Kathy K, but like I should have made up a better fucking name for myself. I like Vanessa. Vanessa is your fake name. That's why you can't get it right. Right. Exactly. I'm like Vanessa. Oh, yeah, that's me. Yeah, that's you. That's quote on your quote, unquote, Vanessa. And Vanessa, you got a lot of stuff going on. I love girls that are into all kinds of things. You're going to talk. We're going to talk about your husband and how you guys got into water sports. We're going to talk about you scissoring your friend and cheating with her. I don't know what that means. We're going to talk about some sort of something you call a panty deal. And we're going to talk about you and your husband getting into the lifestyle during COVID or after COVID or some shit like that but we'll go in like chronological order right oh yeah so we start with like when you met your husband and got into water sports I don't know where do you want to start yeah well let's go ahead and start from the beginning um growing up in the 90s like you know it was a different time then I feel like that was when we were kind of evolving into like sex in the city and true cab confessions and the bunny ranch all these shows were on when I was growing up and it really, really like opened my eyes into a different, I guess you can call it the lifestyle. And when I was exposed to that, it was just like, it looked more, it looked, it made sense to me. It was more, it seemed more comfortable. It seemed more exciting. It just seemed like, wow, I wanted to be an adult. And start having sex. And get on it. Exactly. Yeah. And so seeing these women who are just confident and independent, it really like planted a seed in me and so when I was growing up my first experience was actually with a woman it was actually from truth or dare and she uh yeah she showed me a little bit here and there during the like a bathroom scenery and I don't know so anyway so that kind of like explored my sexuality with women and and did you like it oh my god I loved I was like how is this not normal like i was just like how far did you go wait how far did you go with her in the bathroom oh dude like it was like it wasn't like full-on but you know we couldn't so i couldn't just touch her right i had it had to be a dare so i had to dare to touch her pussy i had to dare to touch her ass i had to dare touch her tits and it was just really sexy to me and i was just like i've never experienced this before and and it was just like it just opened my eyes was like fireworks it was just like, oh my God, like, I love this feeling. I love the feeling of a woman's touch. I love a feeling, but at the same time, I love the feeling of a man's touch. So it was just something like, how, how do you like both? Right. And so that's kind of where I was exploring when I was growing up, just what do I like, what I don't like. And then on that, on top of that, I met my husband really early in life. So right when I hit college, we ended up meeting and he was, he was really he's still sexy but you know what I mean like when you first meet your your your person it was like damn you know you know oh yeah how old were you and how old are you now I was about 19 I'm 33 now okay so you guys been married to for a long time oh very long time yes he's he's my he's my main thing for sure who got who into water sports oh he definitely got me into the water sports so he was freaky too oh dude before i was apparently like okay so he played it like he was like this innocent oh yeah i've only dated a few people and i'm like oh this guy's so cute and i'm the opposite i've dated a lot of people you know so i'm gonna have to teach him a few things here and there you know god forbid he asked you how many guys you fucked before him no i'm just joking oh right right i was like yeah i only fucked a few eight golf but then And one day, we're sitting at the college drinking some cheap-ass wine. And he just kind of confessed to me. He's like, yeah, I like water sports. We'll call it water sports. But he tells me, when I first confessed, he was like, okay, first of all, it's not water sports. It's more like wedding. I was like, oh, okay. I'm sorry. So he kind of had to school me a little bit about the terminology. So his thing is wedding. So apparently he likes, he doesn't like, his thing is more desperation. Women in clothes, fitness, needs to hold it, but can't hold it anymore kind of situations. And so he thinks it's sexy as fuck, you know, with the girl holding her pussy and squeezing herself. Not wanting to pee, you mean. Exactly. I've heard this before. I mean, it's not a lot, but I heard it once before. I thought that was interesting. Like, that's the part of it that he likes, you holding it in. Right, right. just that desperation you know i have to like hold it yeah and then and then the release so that's his thing and so he explained it to you are you like what the fuck are you like like oh that sounds like fun so it was more like oh thank god because i had that my little secret where when i drink too much i actually piss on myself oh you're kidding what a weird match in heaven right okay so it was just that weird universe saying you know what you two would be a great compatible oh my god yeah what are the odds so so when he was telling me this i was just like laughing in relief and i was like well okay yeah no that's completely fine you know i'm and so our first experience was at like a cheap ass easy eight hotel very romantic you know so you know because we're in college so we didn't have an actual place to really do the thing. So we ended up going to the easy, the sleazy eight. And yeah, we ended up, you know, doing the whole role playing thing. And he was really turned on by it. I was and surprisingly turned on by it the way he was. It was just because we had sex before. And I just always felt like there was something missing. Like I always felt like, you know, like he was holding back a little bit. Right. And that night, it was like full on. I'm not holding bag i feel fully 100 comfortable with you and it was just magical because i could tell that he finally let his guard down right and that was what made the sex sexy and very just sensual and romantic and hot and you know like i said you know i did the his favorite thing is like the gray pants like so you can really see the water sport trails and anything light jeans you know anything like that is like one of his favorites. His favorite is cotton. Because I always thought like, okay, yeah, you want sexy thong, lingerie, you know, like, no, they want cotton, granny panties. Yeah, they want it. It's just like amateur porn. They want it to look real. Right. They're not looking real. You don't need to sex it up. No. He wants it to look like the real deal, like you had an accident. Right. And so I was like, okay, okay, okay, I can do this. I guess no sexy thongs. All right, you know. But did you have fun doing it? I had a great time like I've always been a person that's been very fluent I love trying new things I love especially like I said I'm a person that gets off on getting my partners off so if it's like if it's simple as just pissing on myself I'm like okay like that's gonna give me an orgasm you know because I know you're into this so since that night that's kind of like our go-to a little bit We don't do it all the time, but we do it. We do it pretty, pretty frequently. And it just opened up more doors for me and my sexuality, you know, and just like, what does this mean? Because now we're opening up other doors I've never explored. And now you could be honest with him. Did you tell him that you were into women? Yes. Oh, yes. Like, but at that time, it was I was going through a weird period in my life. Like before I met him, I was kind of like in a survival mode. And because I was like independent, you know, I ended up leaving my house at 15, just really wanting to explore this life at a very early age. And so I kind of turned that off a little bit, you know, with my sexuality, because I felt like that wasn't my main attention at that time. But now when I'm in a safe relationship, now I feel like I'm safe. Now I feel like I'm in a period where I can actually explore myself without feeling shame or guilt. And that's what I talked to him about. We kind of talked about it a little bit, but we were just how you're just so in love with somebody. You're like, I don't want nobody else. Everybody else can go fuck themselves, you know. So that's the song that we were kind of doing for a while. And then because we've been together since, like I said, 1920s and we had children. and we had a lot of things that happened. But before all that, we got into Panty Deal. So Panty Deal kind of opened that situation with us a little bit. So Panty Deal was a joke, okay? So I was a barista at one point and I'm trying to figure out extra income and I don't even know, I probably had to be like another barista talking about it. They're like, yeah, you could just sell your panties on your used panties. That was like a thing at a certain time. That was like a thing. It was like, and I was like, used panties? Like all I have to do is wear my panties and just send it off. Yeah. I was like that that that sounds too good to be true Right And so I was like let me figure this shit out you know so I started doing my homework and yeah it was that easy it was like really like you just had to create a profile get some sexy pictures and people were just flaunting to my page and I was just like wow this is really fucking different and then the and then I started getting requests like special requests hey do you have any panties that are old with period period of blood. I know this is so gross, but like, you know what I mean? Like weird shit like that. You know what I'm just like, really? Really? Things that women are normally ashamed of, men are very turned on by. Yeah, it's weird. Like foot fetish guy, some of them like smelly, stinky, dirty feet. Like it's weird, but it exists like that and I've heard it. Yeah. Stinky fucking panties and, you know, wear them for a week and piss on them a little bit and like they're just like, yeah, I'll pay extra for that shit. 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They see me as this exotic, beautiful goddess and I just never experienced that type of lust before and it's almost addicting because it's like especially in your normal life people don't like they do see you that way they don't express it right they don't give you what do you think the whole lure of Instagram and selfies and social media why do you think everyone's addicted it's the fucking likes it's people paying attention to you it's it's exactly what you're talking about it's addicting to everybody you know people just like paying attention to everyone gets fucking addicted to that oh my god no and it's just like and like i said it could it could be a blessing and a curse yeah how much did you make did you make a lot of money selling your panties oh fuck yeah i mean not too much because i was still working as a barista but like i was making like 300 a month and that was before like inflation yeah now and you're young and when you're young that's a lot of money i mean i get it yeah that's good extra money for nothing for putting something in an envelope and going to the post office not bad right and then like and that was just my panties i was actually doing videos like i had a guy who like i like i said i had one guy that um loved crushing and so he wanted me to get dirty stinky gym shoes and then just stop on candy. That's all he wanted me to do is stomp on candy, make it nice and sensual, make sure it's nice that the shoe was nice and muddy. And you know what I mean? It was just so to me, it was just so like you said, interesting that these like, these requests, so specific, and it's a lot of them didn't want me want them to touch me or want them to me to touch myself. It's just more of the act. Yep. And also that's what I respected too. But then life happens and our relationship got more serious because after us being together for six years, we ended up having our first child. So then we're just like, okay, maybe we need to slow it down a little bit. We need to figure out instead of being, you know, Vanessa and husband, we need to be mom and dad now. Yeah. So then we slowed it down. And then, you know, I got real insecure because the baby weight, I ended up having two children. So my body was just trying to catch up. And I was not feeling the sexiest when I was before. And then I don't know. So then that's when Tinder and all those like date websites started popping up. Right. And it was so because I want my cousins, my friends, they're all talking about swipe left, swipe right. And I'm like, what the fuck is that? And so, you know, I go into looking at it and I'm like wow that is some interesting ass shit like you just pick people like but um and that's when I started talking to my husband and I was like hey I do have this buy side that I've never really got to explore with with you you know are you willing to explore that with me and he's just like fuck yeah and so I was like all right so I was like are you willing to make a page on tender and seeing what we can find he was like yeah let's figure let's do it so we put like a little page out and it's so like a week goes by and I mean our shit got lit up right and so but we got the free uh trial thing so I didn't get to see exactly all these people who are on our page right so because I was still kind of like shame scared uh you know all these like insecurities and and then my insecurities even gotten heightened when one of my cousins came up and was like hey Um, yeah, I have a page on tinder and i've been seeing people On there and i'm just like, oh fuck Basically, she's saying that she saw my page without saying she saw my page. Yeah, and i'm just like it just Horrified me and so I just Immediately deleted it. I was like, I don't even want to know Who's on there? I don't want to see the messages now And a few weeks go by and me and or me and my husband me and my husband end up going uh going to the bar and uh we end up meeting this couple this couple comes right up to us right and i'm just and it's completely oblivious and i'm just like you know they're like really intense like it's like the sexual i don't know they gave off the sexual vibe already and i'm just like they were a really hot couple and you know we kind of like started hanging out talking became vanilla friends and then the husband ended up getting deployed. So me and the girl, my friend, we ended up getting closer because she was just sad and yeah, alone and just needed some attention, I guess. So, you know, one night we ended up going out to the bar and we ended up doing karaoke together. That was kind of our thing. And it just got really, I don't know. I don't know what the fuck happened. It was just one of those things like sexual tension. I didn't even know she was bisexual, but I think we just started like, I think touching each other on the bar, you know, kind of giving each other those looks. And then going to the house, we didn't make out, but we definitely were just touching each other. And it was just like that sensual, just feeling up on each other. It felt so good. And yeah, like I said, we didn't do anything, but we just kind of, you know, like did stuff. Like I said, when it comes to like rubbing each other's breasts, just feeling up on each other. Why didn't you go any further? Fear. I've never been with anybody but my husband. And so it's just one of those situations where it was just so Freeing but scary at the same time. Okay, so we didn't do anything until I think a few months later And it was just like every time we hung out. We just went a little bit farther a little bit farther And after a while that's one night We just got really drunk and we ended up going all the way like she ended up saying something about like I need to use the bathroom. I need to take a shower and i'm just like bitch why are you gonna take a shower for it like I it was I was completely oblivious because she also kept sending mixed messages because like we'll do stuff and then she'd be like we shouldn't have done that and I'm like oh okay I'm sorry but then she'll get drunk like okay do it again so it was like this tease that we're doing the sexy dance and yeah we ended up uh fucking and she ended up she was in the bathroom getting undressed and yeah I know we ended up going to the bed and then she end up dressing me I end up going down on her which I'm like damn I love eating pussy that was your first time right right I mean and since as a teenager I did I ate pussy a little bit as a teenager but like not as an adult okay and so it was really like yeah I was like oh yeah I'm yeah this is this is it yeah I definitely love to eat pussy I love sucking dick so I am definitely bisexual in the extreme way you know and we had a great night like like I said that was my first time scissoring somebody uh-huh how was that oh my god dude oh my goodness like that was just so hot like I almost came like instantly I had to like hold back because I was just like oh no don't look like a pussy but yeah she she rocked my socks off it was it opened up this complete door of like I want more I want more and uh so my last confession I said that it happened my time period was a little off so this happened before COVID so after that last experience like we full on like fucked each other that's what it felt like she fucked me like she got on top of me and fucked the shit out of me with a strap on no with her pussy like just she just rubbed like I Because I think we're just so wet we were just so turned on that like it was we didn't need a fucking Strap on like that Our fucking put like it was just Pussy matched with pussy the rut the clit was like right there. I don't know. It was just it felt so fucking good our juices together it was just Fucking sexy And like I said, I wanted more, you know, and then covet happened like literally a week later we got the fucking shut down dude and i'm just like are you fucking i was so upset so upset because now i'm paranoid now i can't go over there no they had everybody paranoid god forbid and everyone like stayed home didn't see people i remember it's crazy remember that i was i thought it was the end of the world i really did i said this is it we're here still fucking walking dead people were washing their groceries before they brought them in i mean so so you couldn't see her right but do you start swinging during covid or when it lifts when it lifts definitely when it lifts yeah like we were just because like i said after that it just i wanted more and i couldn't stop thinking about it and like and i went straight to my husband that night and told him what happened because i was i felt so guilty and he because even though she's a woman even though you know he gave me the green light i didn't tell him up front that we were even doing this stuff like he thought we're just going on karaoke you know what i mean he didn't know that we were actually filling up on each other cheating right and especially you know and but he was hard as a fucking rock and we fucked so good he was into it Oh, dude, he was, oh my gosh. Yeah, he was hell into it. Okay. And you don't mind me saying, because the terminology, you don't mind me saying dude, right? No, not at all. Okay, okay. Because, okay. Because that's my love language. Yeah, that's cool. I like dude. I like, I used dude all the time, I think. Okay, good. Because I think you're sexy as fuck. And I'm like, no, I know you're not a dude. No, no, no. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't look at it that way at all. Don't worry. And I am kind of like a dude. So it's cool. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. Like yeah we talk like guys sometimes Is that when you guys start like discussing the lifestyle Yeah So we started doing our homework So we like okay how do you even get this started Because we out of touch with all the stuff We're just like, okay, we need to really figure out how to do it the right way. Yeah. And it's like, you know, because we don't even know our boundaries. So it's like, okay, what do we like, what we don't like? I've never seen them with anybody before. And, you know, of course, when you're first with each other, you have those jealousies with other people. and, you know, normal vanilla shit, you know? And so I'm like, okay, well, I mean, am I going to get jealous? Like, if I see him with somebody else, will I react? Because I'm such a mama bear that I don't know how I'm going to react. I think that's valid. I think a lot of people feel that way. And I'm just like, okay, so, you know, we're going a little slow and we're going through the podcast and we ran into your podcast And that's when we kind of like it really solid what we felt already. And it gave us more of an open like, oh, OK, yeah, you can. There's levels. You don't have to just go full on. And so we started like, OK, well, once we once COVID lifted, we're just like, OK, you want to start making a page on SLS? And he's like, yeah, let's do it. So we started doing it in 2020, the beginning of 2024. So all these years, we're finally like, all right, we're here. We're going to do it. You know, and our first experience was at a party. And I was so fucking nervous. It's a swingers party? It was a swingers party. Yes. And so it was at a local person's house. And I was just like, I was really nervous. I was really scared because we didn't know anybody. And I'm like, how are you going to how is this going to be? You know, I'm like, are you nervous? All right. And I'm because I'm like, I'm fucking nervous. Are you nervous? Like, yes, I'm nervous. I said, how do you feel like what's our boundary? Like, are we going to kiss? Are we not going to kiss? He's he was like, we're just going to figure this out. And I'm like, OK, but if anything happens, like if you if you feel uncomfortable, give me the eye. Let me know. So we're just basically talking about like our go to is what to do if we're uncomfortable. Our little trigger warnings, you know, before we go too far. 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All you got to do to take that quiz is go to the description and click on the link so you could unlock your personalized roadmap to sexual fulfillment. end he's and he was like we're just gonna figure this out and i'm like okay but if anything happens like if you if you feel uncomfortable give me the eye let me know so we're just basically talking about like our go-to's what to do if we're uncomfortable right our little trigger warnings you know before we go too far and so when we get there i'm like oh we are not fucking like there it was just so clicky like you could already tell up front like everybody knew each other so it was kind of a little disappointing at first. We're like, oh, shit, like, people know each other here. Yeah, so we're kind of like a fish outside of the water. And we're just like, okay, we're just gonna, you know, float by and just figure it out. And then we had this couple kind of like laser us. They're like, ooh, fresh meat, you know, so they kind of come up to us. And they're really sweet, really sweet couple. And they were making us feel very welcomed and showing us around you know showing us to other couples and and then we met a unicorn and the unicorn was just like yeah you know we have a thing called a saddle and I was like what's a saddle a saddle is like you know what those cowboy uh you know you get on the horse yeah so it's kind of like that but it's a vibrator oh okay kind of like a sibian but a sad they call it oh there you go yeah there you go there you guys and so I was like okay so she tried she showed it to me and that shit was fucking sexy as fuck so then we started kind of playing with the unicorn a little bit you know and then this is an open room people are walking in walking out and I'm like oh my god we're actually fucking doing this so I'm touching her breasts and she's riding the saddle a little bit so yeah we ended up having a full-on experience with uh the unicorn me and my husband and um we ended up having a couple of couples coming in. And then at one point, we get off the saddle. And I'm like, okay, I'm gonna get on the fucking saddle. So I jump on the saddle. And then I just have a crowd of people at one point surrounding me just watching me on this saddle. And a girl was actually controlling the saddle. And so I was just like, okay, it felt so good. It felt like and I don't know. I don't know if it was people watching me. I don't know if it's because this is my first time doing this but I just had this natural high that was just so like freeing and just so like I just did not give a shit at that point and like I said I'm not no size zero you know what I mean like for me to be full on naked in front of these people for the first time it just gave me this liberation this yeah I can imagine like yeah yes and confidence because people are like getting off on you they're into it they like you they like what they see exactly exactly and my husband on top of that he was turned on so I'm like hell yeah you know what I mean like he's on board everybody's on board and they were very polite too so they weren't just grabbing on me and being all they were asking permission hey is it okay if I touch you hey is it okay and asking my husband hey is it okay if I could touch her and and he was completely okay with it and it was just such an amazing experience we didn't get on the bed and then we end up uh he ended up playing with the unicorn i ended up playing with a couple and we were just like looking at each other like oh my god this is actually fucking happening and it was almost like a movie like you know at the end of the night where we walk out and we're just covered in like pussy fucking like pussy sweat fucking we smell like like everybody and we're just walking to our car and we're just like we did the damn thing like how do you feel like do you feel okay are you okay because we're on this high we're excited and then we're like oh shit reality sits in like are you okay like did everything work out the way you want like you know what I mean yeah was everything that you imagine yeah and he was like yeah and more and you too and me fucking too oh my god like I was like, yeah, this is it. Yeah, this is our this is our lifestyle. And I remember you talking about saying that people hate the word swingers. I do, too. I don't like swingers. I like the word lifestyle. Yeah, like to me, it's more like, there's more levels. I feel like swing is just fucking. That's what it sounds like to me. Like lifestyle for me is like there's like dating or there's polyamorous and there's there's like with us where we don't see ourselves as monogamy, but we don't see each other as like an open relationship. We're not the couple that do things separately. We've noticed that there are couples that like to date separately, but to us, it's like, what is the point in that? Like we enjoy each other already and we just want other couples to enjoy us together as well. not everybody goes there some people never go there some people go there after a long time some people go there and then go right the fuck back you know some people go there and love it and they become polyamorous and they could roll but I do think that that's a big jump and whenever I hear a couple say that they did do that I always ask a lot of questions because I think that that's when unless you have a really fucking solid relationship you can have some problems I don't know like I would be a little scared to take that step you know but some people but trust me people do it and they do it flawlessly and it works but I do think it's a whole different ballgame right no I would not suggest people who've been together for like five years to do it you know what I mean even five years is a long time but I don't think it's enough to know somebody in a deep level like that you know but then there are like you said there are couples that can do that in every listen I think what's most important is that neither one of you wants to go play solo right right yeah so that works i mean so everything went down right like full swap shit like you fucked a guy he fucked a girl you fucked a girl he like i mean is that what happened like what exactly went down so he was with the unicorn he went down on the unicorn and then um she i think she did fuck him that night either was that night or the next night but you were okay with that right oh yeah i was kind of distracted though like when he was fucking her i wasn't necessarily watching You know, I was just more like, holy shit, my hand, my legs are on this guy's shoulders and he's fucking the shit out of me. I don't even know his name. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That's so funny. That's what was happening your first time while your guy was. Oh, my God. So hilarious. So and then on top of that, I seen the guy. I seen this guy next to me and I can see him just looking at my toes. And I'm just like, oh, you're a toe guy. So funny. I end up fucking that guy next Later on same night Next like two weeks Later so like the both of you Though how did you guys feel about seeing Each other with somebody else I mean you did say You didn't know how you'd feel about Seeing him with another girl And what did he say About seeing you with another guy He said it was different he said honestly it was Different because he did watch he did watch Me he was just like I'm not used to this But he said it did It didn't make him mad You know what I mean? It was just different and that's that's what he would say And I said, okay, but is it something that you would want to see again? He goes. Yeah, yeah, definitely And then and then with me I didn't really get to see Everything like I saw him go down on her But I didn't see my husband actually do the act And so to me in my back of my head. I'm like is that am I still okay with that? If I do see him in the act with another woman will that affect me a little bit? And the next time we played, it was with a couple. And no, I actually pleasantly, surprisingly did not affect me at all. And it was almost like it was really fun. Like we end up, at first we didn't even think we were going to do anything with them. So me and my husband, we kind of made it where our thing is we have dinner with couples the first time. And then that's kind of where we see like if there's an attraction, if there's not an attraction. And then after the dinner that we have with them, we'll send them a message on Telegram saying this is how we feel. We liked you. Did you want to go a step further? And usually after the second date is usually when we actually fuck them. And so that's what happened with our first couple. We ended up having dinner with them It turned out really well. Like I said, we remember we remembered them at the last event, too So, you know, we had stuff to talk about and then the second time or the third The next date that's when we did the uno And that's when we're kind of like because we've kind of set it up. We're like, okay So the next meet we're gonna fuck right but then when we got there, it didn't seem like they wanted to And we're just like, right. And we're like, okay, I don't know what's going on. I think there was a little jealousy with the wife a little bit. I think she didn feel confident or didn feel secured And I the type of person like I always want all parties especially the woman to feel confident or didn feel secured And I a type of person I always want all parties especially the woman to feel comfortable Men are always horndogs They always going to be comfortable. But I want to make sure the woman feels like I'm not trying to take the spotlight. I'm not trying to be here trying to outperform you. I want you to love my body just like I love yours. So that's where my tactic kind of goes. So my husband is really like, kind of the guy that kind of sits back. And I'm the more person that kind of steps forward. And then especially when, like I said, especially if the woman is feeling very, not 100%, I go in and make her feel she's the number one. I like I said, I know how to step back and give somebody the spotlight, especially if I'm going to get what I want. You know what I mean? Like I want I want you to feel sexy with me. I don't want to out-sexy you. So, you know, we were just, you know, I was flirting with her. So the UNO started turning into, okay, you know, no, no, we ended up doing truth or dare. That's right. So we ended up doing like these little papers. We had these papers in this little hat thing. And when it was like a, no, that's what, that's right. So we did truth and then dare, and then we would pick out a piece of paper and that's what we would, we would read it out loud. And then that's what we would do. And so a lot of it, of course, was sexual. And so we started a lot of it was with her, you know, like slapping her ass, touching her breasts, kissing her neck, just getting these little sexual. And you could tell she was getting turned on. And that's when I kind of like was like, OK, so are we going to fuck or what? You know, and they're like, yeah, we're going to fuck. So we ended up going into the room and it was like almost surreal. We're being led into the room. I'm like, oh, my God, this is it. This is like my real sex. This is like my true cap confession. This is like my bunny ranch. Like this is my time to shine kind of situation. So we go into the bedroom and my husband is with the wife. And then I'm with the husband. And we just started taking each other's clothes off. And then me and her started playing with each other. And then my husband started playing with her. And then the husband started playing with me. And yeah, we just, and then we both, we all just fucked on the bed. And it was great at one point my husband stopped and I ended up eating her out and the guy behind me was fucking me and it was just fan fucking tastic It was great. And and I was just so surprised how cool I was with it Even though I do have like this like yeah, I think i'm gonna be good I'm gonna be there's always that little insecurity like okay, but what if right And but there was none none at all we me and my husband really were just like yeah I think this is our lifestyle. We, I don't know. It's just really, we're really surprised how easy transition it was for us to go from vanilla to not being vanilla. Very easy. And I think like, very easy. And I think it's because of the years we've been together though. Like we didn't do it until we were together for what, 15 years. Right. So, you know, that with that level, you know, of security, I know he's not going nowhere and he knows I'm not going nowhere, you know, and it's just like, we're here because we remember we skipped the dating scene a little bit, you know, we got together really early. So we missed the fun going on dates, getting dressed, you know, going out for karaoke and, and fucking random people we so this is so much fun to us. It's like playing catch up. So but yeah, we've been doing this since January. And we've been having a really great time with it. And we were supposed to be going to like some Halloween events, but you know, we're going to kind of do, we're going to do something in January instead. We just want to explore around and do more and just see what other couples are out there. And like I said, we miss that dating aspect. So we're kind of like just dating other couples, but not dating, if that makes sense. Like we're going out to dinner with them. We're, you know, going out in the town and then we'll fuck them. And then, cause there are couples that are like, okay, well, we don't like to fully swap in the same room. And that's kind of where we're at right now. Like, do we want to do that? Do we want to do the separation thing? But I love watching him with women. Like I love and I love eating pussy. Like I'm really fucking great at it. And I love, you know, and I haven't scissored yet. So I want to scissor again. Like that shit's fucking fun And and then also we we had one couple we were going to use a strap on with And I haven't done that either and so there's a lot of things I really want to do We me and my husband even went to the store and got the strap on like it was just really fun I'm, like hey, what size dick do you think I should have we get a kick out of it, too? It's just like wow, we're really going shopping for my dick What is your dick? What kind of dick are you gonna get? Have you got one yet? Hell yeah, it's uh, it's like this. It's like probably like seven inches I didn't want it too big of a dick, you know, I want like a normal Size dick and it actually feels like a dick too. Like it doesn't have that weird texture You know what I mean? Like with vibrators. Uh-huh Like it really feels like the real thing and who do you want to like you want to fuck a girl with it, correct? I mean I wouldn't mind fucking a guy too I mean if they're into that What about your husband how does he feel about that Right okay so I'm glad that you asked I've been trying to I've been trying I was like hey You know because he does like you know Anal play but like Only with the butt plug Like we haven't done the whole Fucking him in the back but And he even said he's like no I'm not really Into that but at the same Time he is kind of curious He says, if it's going to happen, it's going to be with you. So we're still kind of talking about, I'm trying to talk him up with it. I'm like, you know, I'll go soft. I'll be gentle. And what does he say? And he's just like, okay, we'll talk about, we'll, we'll see. We'll see. We'll see. We just, we haven't really planned like the night, but yeah, I think that's coming though, for sure. And, but you want to peg a guy you would, but have you ever done a strap on with a girl? Not yet. Not yet. That's one of my big fantasies right now is I really want to fuck a girl. I want to see how I am like on the other side. I've always laid on my back, but I've never actually mean like penetrated somebody like that. And I don't know. I think it's so sexy to me, especially with like a woman. I don't know. I just think it's sexy and I just really want to try it and just see like, you know what I mean? How hard is it? Is it really hard? I don't know. I don't know. People do say it is only because you can't feel the appendage. That's what people say. So it takes a little getting used to. Yeah. Are you bisexual? I've been with women but I've never used a strapped on a strap on what I don't know if I label myself like I haven't been with a woman in a long time but um when I like I've I've uh you know I never used a strap on but I mean I would try it I just I've heard women say that it is very difficult whether they're pegging their husbands or I've never pegged somebody either I've never used one but they say that it's a little difficult you have to get used to it but you know it's but once you do it's cool you know I mean you might take to it seamlessly who knows right my my sexual appetite yeah it kind of surprises me you're gonna be fine because you want it like you're into it like you want that i mean a lot of women say like it's they feel very powerful that's what it that's what it is i think it's a dominant thing a little bit i think because you know um i'm i'm kind of getting into the bdsm thing a little bit but i just don't know where the hell start i don't know my husband is not the bdsm type so that's what also is awesome about this lifestyle, I get to figure out what my sexual appetite is, you know, like, especially with, like I said, BDSM strap using a strap on. It's just it's, it's so exciting. Yeah, that's what people say a lot of people like, you know, what you really find out if you do allow yourself to play with other people, like maybe you could, maybe, you know, if one person can't satisfy all your needs and that's okay like why not get whatever needs they can't satisfy from somebody else if you're doing it together right probably after a while we might be comfortable with maybe being in a different room but i mean when it comes to like going out on dates by themselves that to me just doesn't feel like in my in my situation doesn't feel right um like i said because why would i want to i want to enjoy that together i want something we can talk about afterwards like hey did you see that hey did you did you witness that hey did you feel that vibe and that's what I was asking with him too it's like what does this mean like is this but we're just kind of like why does it have to have a title we're just gonna figure it out while you guys are doing yeah I don't think it has to mean anything I don't think it means anything more than that than you've just found your thing has it changed your relationship like do you feel a difference? Oh, by far. And in a good way, though. Yeah, right. You know, but also, I'm also gonna be really honest with you, you know, there are little weird things that because I know when I, when people talked on your podcast, they would, they've talked about not being jealous, but being a little jealous, right? And just to dodge any of those type of feelings, I haven't experienced it yet. but I know it will happen. And so I made myself an appointment for us to see a therapist, just so I can kind of talk to somebody about it too. You know, like, Hey, just someone I can talk. Cause I can't talk to my mom. I can't talk to my family about this. And there's just some things I just kind of want to unwrap. The fact that you're going to have help because you're going to have a therapist on hand. That's, that's fucking great. So all you're doing is like, you know, setting yourself up for success, which I think is super smart. exactly and you know and like you said it doesn't hurt and honestly it has helped me a lot I could imagine yeah doesn't love a good that you know it's hard to do you have you found the right have you found someone already uh yeah oh um as a therapist yes yes definitely and you're open with that therapist they know you have an open relationship and all that kind of stuff oh yeah I heard her expression was like oh okay that's where we're going I feel like excited I'm like oh and now finally an interesting uh client I don't know you know definitely not boring yeah she was probably like oh my god but I think that that's awesome I think that that's super smart and I think that um that will only help you guys navigate because you're you're right like it will come up at some point and that doesn't mean that what you're doing is wrong that just means that you're a human being and sometimes you get emotional right like I mean And, you know, like I say, sometimes it's like just the way the wind blows. You could just be having a bad day. Who knows? And it doesn't matter. But what matters is that you have stuff in place to be able to talk it out and work through it without it sort of blowing shit up, which is not going to happen with you guys because you guys just sound like thick as thieves. You're super smart in the way that you've handled everything, especially that you just like went and got a therapist. It wasn't even like things were going. It sounds like things are going great with you guys. Oh, you just got a therapist to make sure it goes great, which I think really just says something about who you are. And I think that that is setting yourself up for success in the future, as opposed to, you know, you calling me a year from now that shit blew up. Right? We're divorced. I'm just kidding. You know, it's not gonna happen. But maybe I'll be playing solo. Maybe that will be the thing. But do you want to send me in pics for my Patreon? If you listen to my show, you know, people send me in pics for my Patreon. Are you down for that? Yeah, yeah, definitely no faces but definitely no faces no and i always say like no dicks in the pic no pussy shots like i don't do x-rated pics for me set you but you i do are rated like people women always send me like sexy pics of them in lingerie or so that's totally fine and then i'll give you free access to my discord that's where all the x-rated stuff comes into play because i will tell you not to send me dirty pics right but you're still going to that's what happens people do it all the time i tell them and then they send me like all this stuff and that's why i started my discord because I'm like, where am I going to put all this stuff? So that's where that goes. But I'll give you free access to it. And then when your episode airs, you could go in there. Make sure you use the name Vanessa. I'll give you guest role access. You could post anything you want if you want to go into it over there. I mean, that's your choice. I'm not telling you you have to. But if you want to, you can. And I'll give you free access to that as well. There'll be a link in the email you get from me. Thank you for calling in. Just sign up there and sign up as Vanessa. Okay. And this will probably air like not this Monday, but next Monday. For sure. yeah please tell me what to do okay i just told you what to do did you fucking hear it yeah hell fucking yeah i'm doing it right now all right awesome you're the best thank you so much for calling in this was a fun conversation and no i had a good time yeah let me know what you think after you listen to it definitely go on discord and thanks so much for calling and sharing your story hey no problem kathy k thank you thanks bye all right bye okay i just want to tell you before you go that I do have a book. 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