GOD IS GREAT, BEER IS GOOD AND PEOPLE ARE CRAZY

Welcome to the Carpool podcast with Kelly. I don't like to decorate my Christmas tree, I don't like to wrap presents. And first of all, call me the Grinch or Soul Christmas, call me whatever you want. I'm a great mom, I love to do fun things with my kids, I don't like to do those things with my kids. And Liz. My nephew came walking into our house the other day and he's like, he's 10. He's like, Aunt Liz doesn't even have any comfort. I'm like, first of all, you have no idea if I haven't had any comfort. I don't. Your mom time off starts now. Welcome back to the Carpool podcast with Kelly. And Liz. And what did I say a couple of weeks ago, Elizabeth? I don't know. I said, don't compare your start to someone else's middle in regards to our studio. Yeah, your light is working really, really good. Here we are a few weeks later and I'm no longer in my start, but I'm closer to my middle and it is looking excellent. And it's day one or it's one day, baby. And we did day one and here we are. Your lighting is looking really good. Yeah, no, it's professional, it's professional grade. Shout out to the craftsman construction lights. Cause now you have two shining in your space. One here, one behind. And then I ordered these things off Amazon that are gonna make blue lights go up my curtain just like a little bit more interest, I think, just to kind of warm it up a bit. No, I'm thrilled. And we're just filming on our iPhones. Imagine if I had a camera there. Like that's gonna be step two. I'm gonna get a camera and then it's over. Yeah, this is over for everyone. You know, when we had Merrick on the podcast, we're all virtual. So she just appeared on our app and she's like, oh, where is this studio that you girls record in? And we're like, we don't have one. It's called a studio. It's a foodie. Oh, it's a foodie. And I'm thrilled with how our foodie is looking. It's coming along. And I appreciate everyone bearing with us. And the clips, I'm enjoying clipping. I think it's fun. I enjoy a clip too. I don't know if we'll ever like put the full podcast on YouTube, but I mean, unless like a lot of you guys want that, but it is giving extra steps. So if it's like huge demand, we'll consider it. But I think it's just like fun to at least have a little bit of context. And you can always ask like to see things. Like if there's something that you need to see clipped, you can ask Elizabeth. I'll clip it. She'll clip it. Like if I make an ugly face again, you'll clip it. That was so funny. Have to be constantly watching myself. Well, happy Friday, everybody. Happy Black Friday. We told you we weren't gonna leave you this Black Friday. You're coming off your Thanksgiving, which I hope was everything and more. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you had lots of turkey, lots of pie. I hope the lions won, because I'm listening to this, or recording this today before Thanksgiving. So I don't know who I will be on Friday. But yeah, we wanted to get this episode out. We have been transacting, so we're gonna do last three transactions. We're gonna catch up. I actually have a lot of industry news that we just didn't have time to get to on Wednesday's episode because we had Merrick as a guest. But there was like some crazy things that were happening at the LA Auto Show. So that's something to talk about. And dancing with the stars. Recap? Recap? So just I kind of buckle up for just like, it's a bit of an all over the place episode, but it's an episode nonetheless. And yeah. Okay, well, I just want to get started with something that I have been wanting to talk to you about. I didn't even talk to you about this offline. Yeah, I think I just went over our agenda, but sure, let's throw a wrench in it. I, well, if this feels like general banter. Sure. I joined a new gym recently. I joined a new one because the one I was going to was too far away from my house and I just wasn't going. So this new one opened up. It's like five minutes from my house. Perfect. Let's do it. And it's affordable, but it is like a bare bones gym. Like there's no childcare. There's one shower in the locker room. And it's kind of like a powerlifting gym. A lot of meat heads, you know, a lot of those, those types, which I actually prefer those types of gyms because I do find versus like, like a planet fitness or like a general like gym like that, because I have found when I would work out at places like planet fitness, I would get a lot more creepy stairs. A powerlifters gym, there, no one's looking at you. They're all looking at themselves in the mirror. So I do like that. But there are some things with a powerlifting gym that you kind of have to look past. So I'm going to run a couple of scenarios by you. And I just want to see like on a scale of one to 10, one being doesn't bother me at all, 10 being cancel my membership. How, how, how willing you would be to put up with these things that you get in a powerlifting type gym. Okay. So number one, number one, know what a powerlifting gym is. It's not crossfit. No, it's not. It's a regular gym, but like there's a small cardio section. It's for just like the really intense like fitness. Bodybuilders? Body, bodybuilders. That's more what I'm looking for, bodybuilder. Sure. Sure. Like anyone can join obviously, but there you walk in and like, you know, you know the type of place. It attracts a certain type. So number one, where do you land on people filming themselves, carrying the tripod with them, filming every part of their workout, sometimes bringing a light and shining it on them. Where do you think I land on that? I think you're probably fine with it. I appreciate the hustle. Yeah. It's not as easy as it looks. No, it's not as easy as. Yeah, I'm totally good. I mean, I've done it in Target. I've done it at, I've done it in insane places. I've brought my tripod and light. So yeah, I had no problems. I didn't think that one would bother you very much. The only reason it slightly bothers me is because I'm like, okay, well, I have to get to that weight. And I don't know if I'm gonna walk into your shot and I'm not trying to ruin your shot, but also like it's public space. I think you should be as respectful as you can. And I am, and I am. Yeah, I'm fine with that. Okay, number two, grunting, moaning, borderline screaming when you are lifting and then you like release it and then it like the weights fall and then you're like, ah! And moans. Yeah. Yeah, that one's tough. That one is tough. I feel like if it got bad enough, I would leave mid-workout. I don't like that. Okay, so scale of one to 10. Like one doesn't bother me 10, I'm quitting this gym. I'll give it a six. It's definitely more than five. If it's the kinds of moans and grunts I'm thinking of, I just don't need that in my life. And it is, it's startling. Yeah. All of these things, mind you, happen every single time I go to this gym. Okay. Men working out without a shirt on, tarps off. Well, this is your pretty mean awkward position. I don't, it, I'm okay with it. That's fine. I wouldn't leave the gym. To me, it's giving swimming pool. Yeah, sure. And if it's a powerlifting gym, I'd imagine, I mean, it's, I would imagine it's not the worst, the worst thing to see. Yeah, I do feel uncomfortable though. Sometimes if I accidentally like look in their direction, I don't want them to think that I'm looking at them. So then I'm feeling like kind of uncomfortable. No, it does actually, I'm gonna take it back. Cause it does feel like no shoes, no shirt, no service. Right? If I actually go back to just like basic decency, it does feel like you should keep your shirt on. Well, put a, put a tank on. Like if you're so sweating so much, like you can't stand to have a shirt on, like put a tank top on. Yeah, I, I'm gonna, I'm gonna come back on. Now what I don't like is one time I've been to a gym, I don't like when they take their shoes off. That's crazy. Well, so that was gonna be my last one is a lot of times to bowl, like walk around in like crocs or slippers. And then when they're doing certain workouts, they like click their, click, click, kick their slippers off and do a move with just socks on. Okay. If they have socks, I'm okay. Okay. I have not seen bare feet. I haven't seen bare feet. Yeah. If you're seeing toes, you need to get out of there. You're seeing toes, you've got to bounce. No, I haven't seen any toes. Liz, yeah, I think you should look for a new gym. If you want my honest opinion, I don't think, right? It doesn't sound like, it sounds like a super average experience. It sounds like if you lived in a small town and that was your gym, you deal with it. It's not worth not working out, but you have, you live in a great populated area with plenty of gyms. They'd be lucky to have you. You would think there aren't many gyms in my vicinity. There aren't as many as you would think. And this one's literally five minutes from my house. So I have no excuse, even if it's just like to go get a 30 minute workout and it's open 24 hours. So Maddie likes to workout like after everyone's gone to bed. So I just think I'm stuck there, but I just was like, I was just curious, like your opinions on it. It just like cracks me up every single time I go. And it's just like, the videotaping, I'm fine with whatever, I respect the hustle. It's the tarps off that like really, yeah, abuses me off. Yeah, I know the more I've thought about that, I really regret what I said. Like also it's if they're doing any of these things in combination, because like if the shirt's off and you're grunting, I'm sorry, this is the not safer work. Like then simply like you've got to get out of there. Oh, and you can bet your bottom dollar if the tarp is off, the camera is on. Right, so then it's a triple threat. So then they're filming themselves grunting churlus. And I don't think you need to be associated with those kinds of people because that's a whole other thing. Totally, I, there was this one guy who was filming with a like a legitimate camera. I was almost like, hey, I kind of need to know what camera this is, because like we're trying to up our podcast recording. On one side of the gym, his light on the other, this is probably like a 20 feet, 20 foot span. Like he's taking up a lot of real estate to film himself in this one little section. And I'm like trying to like sneak behind his camera, but the guy's 20 feet away from me and I'm trying to respect his camera, but like you're kind of taking up too much real estate. I don't know, Liz, this is kind of crazy. I don't think, I think, I think you need to find a new gym. I'm not going to. Well, I worked out of my basement today. It was so funny, I was listening to our podcast on Wednesday about how I was like feeling so much better. And then yesterday I literally had like the worst, I had like such a, I had a horrible day mentally, cortisol-y. Uh-huh. Like worse, like worse spike I've had. So that was humbling, then to listen back to me, I'm fine, I'm getting better than the next day it was. You're not fine. But today I am fine. So. Okay, good. It's just so fun and exhausting. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. But I will say it's, I appreciate people who have reached out told me they've gone through similar things, people are happy that I've opened up about it. I guess I just like, I don't feel, I'm not one to be, I don't want to be this like mental health advocate because I don't think I have that experience. Um, so that's why I think I was like hesitant to talk about it. But, oh, and then I got a hate mess, a couple of hate messages for getting someone to decorate my Christmas tree. I'm going to talk about that for a second. Yeah, let's do it. Okay, I think I said this on the podcast last year. I don't like to decorate my Christmas tree, I don't like to wrap presents. And first of all, call me the Grinch or Soul Christmas, call me whatever you want. I'm a great mom, I love to do fun things with my kids. I don't like to do those things with my kids. So I was like, I'm going to outsource those things. We had a whole summer, this whole series, side hustle summer of moms who are good at things, who are looking to make little extra money, do something that they love and help out other moms. And I'm like, I'm going to do this this year. Like this, I don't even like to call it like giving back because I paid them for their work. But I was like, I'm going to do this because these are areas in my life I could, I don't want to do them and I have the means to outsource them so that's what I'm going to do. The comment I reposted was like the nicer of the comments that I got. Really? People were dragging me, not people, like a four. Like sending me like crazy messages. And I'm like, okay, I'm sorry that like you, like I don't know if it was other like, I don't know. I thought it was just, I don't even want to get into it. I guess I don't even know why I brought it up. But just all to say like, God is great, beer is good and people are crazy. And that's what I'm going to say. Her message was you couldn't decorate your own Christmas tree. And let me tell you based off of how gorgeous, drop dead gorgeous your Christmas tree, like I can tell everyone firsthand, no, Kelly could not have decorated her own Christmas tree like that. No. It was gorgeous. You paid her for her services. This wasn't like a do it for free influence or anything. She was so grateful for the shout out. Like I was whatever. Girls run into business guys. Yeah, that was kind of crazy. I don't know where I was going with that. Oh, and just know this about me. Like if you ever do send me a hate message, I, I won't see it cause I don't, I don't really read a lot of my DMs as much as I used to anymore. But one thing about me is I will respond back with a voice memo. So just know you will get a voice memo from me. And I expect a voice memo back, but like you're going to hear my voice. And I want you to just read your message to me with your voice. Mm-hmm. It's intimidating. So this girl who sent me the message, I looked up at our previous messages and like I'd never seen them before. Every message she sent me was like something mean. So I sent her a voice memo and I'm like, hey, I think maybe you should unfollow me. Like I'm not going to block you, but I don't think I'm bringing joy to your life. You seem really triggered and upset by a lot of things that I'm posting. I think it might be better for you if you went ahead and unfollowed me, saw the message, listened to the voice memo, didn't unfollow me, didn't respond. That's honestly so savage of you. Yeah. So I will send a voice memo. And also I'm, I, you know, that message wasn't that mean, so I wouldn't, I wouldn't like post that. But you best believe if I ever get a message and if it comes across my desk and I'm in a mood and it's mean and it's attacking and it's bullying, you will get screen shot and I will not block out your name. I'm not living in this, I'm not living in this world. I'm not even tag you. I'm not living in this world. We'll own up to your words. The lack of accountability that people have online, it's so not okay. And I'm not gonna be part of that, I'm not gonna be part of that narrative. I think more people should do that. Like I think you should let people see, like say it with your chest. Like if you wouldn't, like if you wouldn't say it to my, like, okay, so just proceed with caution. Just so you know. So you know, and I will be cordial in my voice memo and you can voice me on my back and you can explain your positioning. And we can have a delightful conversation because I think we would probably agree on a lot. So anyway, thank you Julie for coming to decorate my Christmas tree. It looks amazing. I'm still looking for someone to come around my presents. So if someone would like to come around my presents. And if anyone has anything to say about that, proceed with caution. We can't wrap around presents. I don't know, can you install your own car seats? Oh, oh, just said that. Yeah, yeah. That was a dig. That was a dig. Sorry, my lighting's making me feel more confident. Today's episode is brought to you by Quince. These days I'm all about quality over quantity. You guys know I am decluttering my house. And so if things in my closet are not well made and versatile, they're not worth it to me. I'm getting rid of them. And that's why I love Quince. The fabrics feel elevated, the cuts are thoughtful and the pricing actually makes sense. 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Shook to my core. Nugget never has a discount. It's like, and here's kind of my problem with these things. I want some of these sales to happen, not on Black Friday because like my budget's kind of spent on gifts and then there's- I'm exhausted, yeah. There's things that I would have liked to have bought for myself, but like I cannot do that because it's like I just bought all these gifts instead. But I will say I'm here for Cyber Week. I'm here for the whole week. I feel like I'm taking my time. I'm cuddling up with a cup of coffee on the couch in the mornings or in the evenings with some tea, maybe a glass of wine. And I'm just like taking my time sifting through the deals and the sales. I'm having fun with it. I'm making, I'm not as impulsive, you know? I have, to me this has been a 10 out of 10 Black Friday situation and I agree the deals are good. I thought the last Prime Day the deals were wot, wot, wot. These deals are good on Amazon and otherwise. Very impressed. Yeah. Very impressed. Me too. Me too. I've been getting it done over here. So let's talk about some of our recent transactions. So now it's time for the last three transactions where you share our recent bathing thoughts of fractions. I'll let you start. I'll kick it off. So I, first of all, I had an anthropology code which was like so exciting to have like my name and anthropology's name in the same sentence. Yeah. Like that was really fun. I think it's probably because I'm friends with Merrick. I think she may be like hooked that up for me. Cause you know, they've never wanted to work with me and then all of a sudden I'm getting a 30% off discount code. Like, okay. Friends in high places. And I didn't realize, I didn't need any clothes. But I wanted to buy some gifts. And I didn't know that my code worked on their home section too. So like someone texted me or messaged me that they got 30% off a console table with my code. Which I was like, that's so awesome. Wow. That's huge. I know. So I got some Capri blue candles from anthropology because I think that a nice candle is one of the best gifts to give. And I know it's like, I think a candle is a kind of overrated. I think a nice candle, especially if they're a candle person. It's something that you would never buy for yourself. And between the anthropology Capri candles and the hotel lobby candles. Also spoiler alert if you're on the Car Mom team. That might be one of your gifts. You're just like slowly going to reveal everything. I'm gonna do an unboxing. I know. Well, and I was also thinking, I told this to Matinee. She's, Matinee's gonna order like two extra of everything and then I think I'm gonna do a giveaway of like. Oh, that's fine. Yeah. Or I'm just gonna like go randomly to like my DMs or like my comments. Cause like I kind of see the same names. A lot of like people who have supported me throughout the years. I mean, maybe I'll just like randomly surprise two of you with like you're on the team. Cause you're on the team. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I do love that. Anyway, Capri candles and hotel lobby candles galore, both on sale. Oh, the hotel lobby ones are. I love those. Um, okay. Something that I snagged on also on sale, Stanley was having a sale and you know, I love the 40 ounce ice flows. Yeah. They were 50% off. So they were $22. It only in certain colors, but they weren't bad colors. Like they were still cute colors. So I bought, I bought three of them for different Christmas gifts. Yeah, I miss that. I think it's still probably going on. Okay, baby, I'll look. I also placed a pretty hefty, well, a kid's clothing order. Now ever since I have had two and two, so I have two boys, two girls, boy girl, boy girl is my order. And it's kind of made me realize as I've like been taking, as I bring George's old clothes up for Fred and had his old clothes up for Libby, I'm really paying attention to like the clothes that I saved and the clothes that I like will actually put that child in. And some things just don't stand the test of time after like washing a million times, but putting in storage for a couple of years. It's just like, okay, like, I'm not, she's not wearing this, like this was gross. And I don't like to have too many kids clothes. I do a lot of laundry. We do laundry almost, I used to do like laundry once a week. Now we're doing laundry like every day. That's just kind of been like my new system. I probably need to like update my life on, but I'll do that another day. So anyway, all to say is like my kids don't need thousands of hundreds of pieces of clothes. So I've really started to find like the brands that I really like, the 100% cotton shirts, one we need that for Fred's eczema. So it's just like, if Fred's doing it, I kind of all like us to do it. And I'm just trying to like kind of slow down to be a little bit more mindful about their clothes. Anyway, T-collection, I'm obsessed with their clothes. They are so cute. Their Black Friday sale is amazing. Like shirts are $10, pants are $15, dresses are $20. And like they're like heirloom quality stuff. They're very cute prints without being too cute. Like they're realistic. Like George loves the shirt. Hattie loves the dresses. So I placed a big T-collection haul. And I couldn't believe how good the sale was. You, I know. I feel that way about a lot of these sales. I'm just like, okay, well, it's a lot to be spent right now, but like I've have bought so many of these things at full price at one point in my life. I've like, I know it's, I know it's, I know a good deal when you see it. Yeah. Something I recently bought Christmas gift related. So Maddie's on Maddie's side, we have like some nieces and nephews that are like eight and 10 years old is kind of their range. And they, the girls have always thought that I was like cool cause I was like younger and like I was Maddie's girlfriend and whatever they think I'm cool. And so now I want nothing more to be cool in their eyes. Like it is so important to me last year for Christmas. I got them this like, it was like a little kids skincare cause like they're at this age, like all they want to do is be like 18. So like instead of toys and stuff, they wanted like skincare. So I got them this like kids non-toxic skincare that's probably really nothing to it, but it looks really cute. And then like one of those bubble headbands and like they raved about it. Like are still talking about how Ant-Liz got them skincare. So I was like, what am I going to get them this year? Cause I can't get them the same thing. So I ordered the girls. It's called white Fox. Have you seen, it's called a white, it's called the, it's called white Fox boutique. And it's an online store and they have like cute sweatshirts that say like white Fox and they're just like branded. And they're like, I think normally they're like, it's like a $60 sweatshirt, but they were on sale for like $40. I just think they're going to think that they're like cool girls. Like my nanny wears this white Fox all the time and she's like 20. So I knew that like that's what the girls would want to be. And I'm really thinking I'm going to hit it out of the park on the white Fox. I'm looking at white Fox. Another brand that they liked that their brother had and they were like so jealous of their brother sweatshirt. It's called Comfort CMFRT. You're just like, don't do the vowels. And those are a little bit cheaper than the white Fox, but I was just like trying to like- Isn't that Scott Disick's brand? Comfort? I have no idea. My nephew came walking into our house the other day and he's like, he's 10. He's like, aunt Liz doesn't even have any comfort. I'm like, first of all, you have no idea if I haven't had any comfort. I don't, but like they're obsessed with these like sweatshirts. His is called talentless. That's funny. Oh yeah, you're right. Same vibe though. Well, good for you. Okay, we'll look at you. Hopefully you kill it. Hopefully they love it. Hopefully. I really took a risk on the white Fox versus just getting the comfort because I knew they were going to like the comfort, but I'm trying to make it look like I know something that they don't know. Like your cutting edge. Yeah. Well, hopefully some people can weigh in and then maybe it's not too late to return them if you're wrong. Okay. Okay, my last transaction is like I told you guys yesterday. I did not have a very good day. I was just like really cortisol-y. I don't want you to word panicky or anxious, but I guess that was a kind of probably a more accurate description. Anyways, I decided that I, after all, was not going to be able to make my kale-seizer salad for Thanksgiving. So I called the restaurant in my town and I said, can you cater a salad for 10 people who I pick it up today? And they did. Okay. So no delicata squash. So like there's no delicata squash. There's no homemade Caesar. There's no, it is a good salad. It's a good house salad from an average restaurant when I live. And I'm sorry. It's okay, Kelly. It's okay. You have been doing the most for so many years. So it's okay. No one's gonna get stuck. And I told mom, I'm like, this is the exception. This is not the new normal. Like put this in the notes. I want you to write in the notes, salad was mid, looking forward to Kelly bringing the regular one next year. Like that's what I want them to write it. Write it before we even have it. It doesn't even, and if anyone's like, this is better, like first of all, shut up. Cause it's not. But I just, yeah, so that's what was my last, that was my last transaction. You and I are in such different phases right now because you are like struggling to get by and I like couldn't be thriving more. My last transaction was a sourdough recipe book by Amy Bakesbread. Amy Bakesbread's my favorite sourdough follow. All of her recipes are great. I'm killing it. I made her scones. So I'm bringing homemade scones for Thanksgiving, which like this is so fun to be, this must be what it feels like to be you because I'm bringing something that's homemade. That's impressive that people are excited for and I'm never that girl. Yeah, I know. We are in totally, we have switched, we've switched shoes. So I'm just going to enjoy it. I'm going to ride my high horse all the way to Thanksgiving. Well, cause, and you should, because what I reminded Elizabeth and you, if you don't have a sister, you're going to think this sounds really mean, but like this is very much her year because like she's looking down the barrel of like other pregnancies, other postpartum journeys. Like this would be the, I mean, this, this is, this is a freak accident off year for me. So I just, It's a freak accident for me actually, I think. Yeah, so I'm happy that this year you're having this together and I want you to like, I want you to ride the high. I will because like next Thanksgiving. And next year I'll pick up your pieces. Yeah, next Thanksgiving, God willing, I am just like, it can't do it because I'm like pregnant or have a baby or whatever. Yeah. I'm not, yeah. All right, well, let's get into Dancing with the Stars. Okay. I said on Instagram, I would be happy if Alex or Robert won. When I saw Robert win, I was a little bit sad. Same. And I'm like, I'm such a Robert stan. And like my kids were so excited. I told them this morning because like they love the reptile guy. They just shouldn't have been on the same season because they are both winners. That's what I'm pissed about. They are both, they both deserve it. Like I love Robert winning. If I think he deserved it over anyone else except for Alex. Like I want them to share it. I cannot believe they said that they both got the most points or the most votes ever. And it was the closest that it's ever been. Like that just, that's almost worse. It is worse. Because it just goes to show like if anyone else except for the most likable man on the planet, Robert Irwin was against her. Alex would have won by a landslide. And that stinks. Yeah, it stinks. Okay. So, but I think, I don't know. Who's to say I wouldn't have been sad if Alex won and then Robert lost. And then like him and Bindi didn't have that together. Like that I, So I mean, I wanted them both to win. I would, I probably would be feeling the same way if she won. I love that Robert won. I wouldn't have even have been mad if they just wanted in some like BS like, we've got for the first time ever, you're both winners. Like I would have been happy. Yeah. I would have been happy with that too. I would have been happy with that. Overall, though, the finale, my thoughts, I don't think we needed five people. I would have preferred one more week. I think four would have been a better number because five just felt like a lot. Yeah. I do like that they placed everyone. Like that felt like some good context. I felt like kind of for the first time ever, like I knew where everyone stood. I guess I agree overall with the scoring. I am surprised how much Dylan grew on me throughout the season. Like I literally, it was no one hated Dylan more than me. Yeah. And then by the end of it, I'm like, he's really improved. Like I'm kind of like rooting for him. I know. So I really like him. I don't like him too. Like I might go watch Trader. I don't even know what that is, but it just seems like something to watch. So I liked that. I thought the instant dances were crazy. Like I was so... My stomach was in knots. Like I was so nervous for them because I don't want to see anyone fall. Like I don't want to see anyone get tripped up. Like that, oh, that makes me cringe. But they all did great. And that also just goes to show that like, when they're learning these dances, like they're not just learning a choreograph routine, they are learning the technique of the dances and it's amazing. It is just like so where do you think about, where do they go with these skills from here? Like they just spent the last, you know, three months learning a skill. What are you gonna do with it? Show off at a wedding? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, it's gotta be kind of sad for them because they're like, like the pros, like this gets to continue to be the pros life. Like ballroom dance, they love it. It's their life. And now the stars are just like, okay, well I can do a Samba. So what, what do I do with that? Does anyone care that I can do a Samba? And it is interesting because it's like, now the pros are like also stars to me. Oh, I can't wait for next season now that I know all the pros. I know and I feel like Jenna, like she's a pro who got out so early who's so good. Like I'm excited to see. Oh, I'm just so thrilled to have this in my life now. I'll never not watch it probably. I'm gonna miss it so much. And yeah, I thought as far as dance goes, I thought Alex's freestyle was unbelievable. It was my favorite freestyle. It was such a moment. It was such a performance in ways like the other ones weren't. I thought Alex was my favorite. My second favorite was Elaine's. Hers was iconic. Iconic. I loved it. It's so cute. I loved the character. I loved it. It was so fun. I didn't really care for Dylan's. I, some people were like, it made me cry. I didn't really, I didn't really feel very connected to Dylan's and I liked Dylan a lot. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I don't really remember that one. They did something with water. I didn't love Jordans. I actually like, I rewatched Jordans today and they're like, there were parts about it that I really thought were, it was so different than anything else. I did feel like Ezra was like hardly in it. So I was like, where's Ezra? But it's also like about Jordan. I liked all of it except for when that other girl came into it. Cause then I'm like, who is this? What's the, like, why are we doing this? But other than that, I liked it. And I thought Roberts was really cute. Yeah. It was a fun show. I like, just can't wait to, and now I feel like it's such like a high brow, like I think any star would want to go do it. Like I think it's so good for their careers. Yeah. So I'm hoping we get like really, really some great A talent. Do you have any like stars you'd love to see on it? Like cash or net wide? Like if you could have anyone. I know. You know what I thought about this the other day. And honestly, like it's been going on for so many freaking seasons. I would probably have to look up if these stars have even ever been on it. Yeah. I would love to see more comedians. Yeah. And that's like, I like, I like comedians on it. Like Heather McMahon. Yeah. Mm hmm. Um, I feel like Blippi should be on it. Oh, that would be a really good one. Yeah, Blippi would be a good one. Blippi or Miss Rachel, you know what I mean? Someone even fake, I didn't even take fake Blippi. No, I would take fake Blippi over real over original Blippi. I feel like fake Blippi is like more into it. I use more into it. So I think that could be a good one. And he has like a theater background. Yeah. Let's whereas whereas original Blippi doesn't follow my Instagram. I think it seems Clayton. Let's get Clayton on DWTS. Oh, that's a good one, Cal. Thank you. Thank you. Um, hmm. They need like more other influencer influencers. I don't know who. Yeah. I don't know. I'd have to think about it. I, the one that some have like come to my mind and I just like, don't think about it. I just love learning about new people. Like now I'm such fans of all these people. Well, and then I'm also sad because it's like, I'm such an Alain fan. And like, what do I do now? Because like she's not very active on Instagram. Like, so where do I get my Alain? My Alain fill every week. Yeah. I don't know. I think I'm going to go back. I might, I might just go back and. Maybe tell Maddie that a new season has started and just like start watching old seasons like every Tuesday night. I just love my routine of like, I know, I know, I put the easy one. I veg out on the couch for two hours. Like that's just like really becoming an important step in my life. Well, see, here's what I want to do. I want to rewatch. There's this season of dancing with the stars that I don't know the history as much as other people, but it really like change the way that they did the voting because this man named Bobby Bones was on it. Do you know who Bobby Bones is? Yeah. Okay. He was on it and he ended up winning and he was like not a good dancer, like a little better than Andy, but like was not like, mirror ball, winner worthy. And there was this other guy named Milo who was partners with Whitney. Now, Milo is from the zombies movie on Disney, which is one of my kids favorite movies. So like we love Milo in this was that we'll call him by his character's name is that we love Zed. It's always coming up Zed around our house and he was on it and he lost to Bobby Bones and it was like this crazy thing because like his freestyles iconic. Like one of the stars recreated his freestyle during this season. Yeah. No, I want to, I want to watch it because I want to see if Bobby Bones was like actually that likable that he like should have gotten all of the votes or not. Because there was a reason it didn't just happen. Apparently Bobby Bones gave back his trophy. Oh. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to have to, I got to watch this season. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. So I don't know. I didn't watch that season. So that's what that's the season. I think I'm going to go watch. Okay. I'll do it too. Cause. Okay. Okay. Anything else to show me on the industry news where I saw the hat T going on the other industry. Let's move on. I've said my piece. Okay. First story. Transportation department debuts more accurate female crash dummy. Now you might have seen this like circulating the news sources and what this is is it's a headline, but it's pretty much a nothing burger and I'm going to explain why. So right now the female crash dummy that they have is like basically just like a small version of the male crash test dummy. So it gets different because like men and women's men and women's bodies are different. So it doesn't account for like the physiological differences that happen to women. So this one is more accurate. It has more technology on it. So like, for example, the pelvis for the female frame is more rounded and does not hold the seat belt the same way. So that's why these are important. It is exciting that they have developed this dummy, but I want to be really clear with like the word developed just means it's there sitting in sitting there. It doesn't mean it's getting crash tested with. And even when it does get crash tested with, it doesn't mean that it becomes that it doesn't mean that its performance becomes the new standard. Or even anything that it's rated on. So like, yeah, they could like maybe crap. I mean, the manufacturers can crash test with anything that they want, but they're only required to crash test with the current dummy. So this one's not like a requirement yet. I'm kind of giving you like the super digestible version. And I don't want to say it's a nothing burger because like it's exciting that this technology is out there, but it's not. They're not using it yet. You know what I mean? It's like, well, and these dummies cost like hundreds of thousands up to a million dollars. Like they're so expensive. So that would also require all of these manufacturers and or like these testing sites to buy multiple of these mil. You said it was a million dollars of this million dollar crash dummy. So yeah. And it is interesting. I don't know. It's so hard because like, I'm not going to say that I don't care. I don't want them to crash us on female dummies because I do. But to me, it's like, I also just like want the I want just the cars to continue to improve their crash ratings in every capacity. You know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm not saying again, it doesn't matter. But right. But like, yes, it's a man like, OK, whatever. But like right now we have like one solid constant and like that constant is still getting hurt in a lot of cars. So like, like there are still many cars that don't pass that have four star ratings, three star ratings don't. I mean, fail. I just tests. Yeah. So it's kind of like, why don't we like wire like, let's just make those. Let's continue to improve that aspect of it. So that's just a little bit what that means. It's not that it's not exciting. Yes, it's exciting. And I think it would be interesting to know. There's just other. I don't know. There's I have a lot of opinion. I have a lot of opinions on it. I we need to probably like have Jessica Dermakian back on to get her take on it. You know, mm hmm. OK, this is a crazy story. You're going to love this story. OK, so there were some influencers. Who were these guys? The content creators under the name middle lane. They're these guys on Tik Tok and they were at the LA auto show with their press credentials and they went into the new Jeep recon, which is the $65,000 new Jeep that's come out that I just like haven't really made a story because like, I don't know, Jeep's always making overpriced cars. I just didn't really seem that noteworthy. Anyway, they. They had a video go viral because they were pulling apart this Jeep recon to like show the build quality. So like they'd be like, look at this trim. It's like, you look, I can just like rip it off. And like they're being. Have you seen the video? No, they're being so aggressive with it. And they think they're being so funny. OK, a couple of things like one, you can definitely like point it out and question it without destroying the car. Like they're destroying the car. Second, these guys are obviously idiots because it's a pre-production model and pre-production models are put together by hand. Like it's not. It's not. It's a pre-production car. It's just to show the vibes, the aesthetics. Like it's not the final car. So my gosh. Yeah, it says the actions taken to disassemble the all new Jeep recon and display at the LA auto show were both destructive and unprofessional. The company says that the pre-production models are assembled by hand, not constructed in the same fashion. The consumer ready vehicle will be which goes for sale in 2026. The vehicle in question is a pre-production car built exclusively before reveals and events to highlight the design inspiration for the final product. Yeah. I wish I need to find this video of the recon has since been deleted on YouTube and Instagram, but remain published on TikTok as of late Tuesday, November 25th. I don't have TikTok. Is it going to show it to me? Is this the guy Miami? Miami. Oh, I have to sign in. Name. I want to push back on the claims of destructive content as the video clearly shows the clippings holding certain interior parts together were loose and the parts were easily to they were just saying they didn't have to try that hard to pop them out. Oh, that's like, that's like so unfortunate for these guys. Well, here's the thing. It is unprofessional. It is. I know it's going to invite you to stuff. And let me be clear. I push the line all the time. Dry cars. I remain professional. I would never go. And it was just like so for clicks. You know what I mean? And they're it's a reproduction. You're an idiot. Yeah. Even the final car. Wow. Yeah. That's crazy. And then my last two little stories are just like some of their things that happen from the LA auto show. The only things that I think we really care about is that the Kia tell your ride is coming out with a hybrid, which we were expecting to 35 miles per gallon. So now you have to tell your right in the pal. The palisade hybrids already out. Yeah. It's really exciting. Mm hmm. And really excited. I'm a little worried about old GM. Like where's our traverse hybrid? Mm hmm. Where are any hybrid GM so on their EV grind? But like now we've got Toyota Grand Highlander hybrid, palisade hybrid, tell your ride hybrid. Mm hmm. I'm sure I'm missing some. But this is exciting because I've been saying for years like we just don't have a lot of good hybrid options for families and now they're coming and they're coming in the major way. No, it's so exciting. And the Honda pilot actually got like a mid cycle refresh, which I am actually excited about the advancements because it's so exciting. Really, the biggest thing is they finally put the 12 inch screen in the Honda pilot because like the craziest thing about the pilot is it had only a nine inch display, which is wild because in the cord it had the 12 inch display. So you're just like, what are you doing here? Like all the other cars in this class have such big, beautiful screens and infotainment systems and you couldn't even put like your best one in your biggest car. Like it was just so it was such a disconnect. So now the Honda pilot for 26 will have the 12.7 inch just touchscreen display. And like really, that's for me, I think that's a huge improvement. It's just so much more competitive. Like I remember when the pilot was up for the car of the year, we kind of had to knock it on interior design when we were comparing it to the other cars, like the traverse because it's like it wasn't even competitive. You know, yeah. So now, now I think even if like, I don't really, one's always going to be better than the other. And then I think that gets kind of a little too opinionated and we don't like to make a lot of our scoring off of like opinions, but I do think it's easy to look at something and say like, is this in the same class? And the old pilot technology wise was not in the same class. I'm excited about 26. Yeah. And that's industry news. Pretty juicy. It's super juicy. That's, I need to go try and make a Tik Tok account just so I can watch that video. Okay, Kel, are you ready for Ditch the Drive-Thru where we give you an easy dinner recipe to mix it up to get you out of your dinner rut? Yes, I am. What are you going to make the day after Thanksgiving? Like, what have you prepared? Today. This is the worst, the worst day of the year. So, you know, it's like, I, here's my current plan. I have bought the things. I have bought the things to make turkey tetrazini. Now I love turkey tetrazini. I do not have the turkey. So I need to take, I'm really banking on there being enough left over turkey for me to take home for my family. To then roll in the dice. Yeah. I'm rolling the dice. It's very much like when you go to the grocery store at 5.30 on a Thursday and like hope they have a rotisserie chicken there or your dinner plans are screwed. Like that's how I'm feeling. I'm feeling a little uneasy about the whole thing. So mom's such as doing two turkeys though. So I'm confident they'll be leftovers, but you know, I need to, I mean, I'm a family of six, I need a decent amount. Yeah. So, but I have everything else. And I, so I have everything else. So that's where I think. I think you should be fine. Yeah, I'm hoping to believe it. I'm choosing to believe you'll be fine. And if you just have to, just have to have tetrazini, then you just have to have tetrazini. Um, I am making a family favorite and I have always have, or I usually have all of the ingredients, um, with the exception of my ground beef, which I have. And that is Crunchwraps. My family loves Crunchwraps. They, um, are so easy to make and pack a huge punch. So I know everyone will be happy. I know it will be like a nice filling meal. And all I have to do is pull ground beef out of my freezer. And guys, with that, that is going to be our episode. So thank you so much for listening to the carpool podcast and we'll talk to you next time. Thank you for listening to the carpool podcast with Kelly and Liz. Make sure you're subscribed so you never miss an episode. And if you enjoyed riding with us, tell everybody you know, there's room in the car for everyone.