The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 884 | "The Top Package"

196 min
Dec 6, 20254 months ago
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Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast episode covers entertainment industry news including Netflix's $82 billion acquisition of Warner Bros Discovery, analysis of the Diddy documentary series, and discussions on relationships, celebrity culture, and hip-hop business dynamics.

Insights
  • Netflix's acquisition of Warner Bros represents a strategic pivot from original content creation to owning established IP catalogs and production infrastructure, signaling consolidation in streaming
  • The Diddy documentary's effectiveness lies in narrative storytelling and timeline construction rather than new information, making complex histories accessible to younger audiences unfamiliar with the details
  • Gatekeeping and information hoarding in hip-hop business is less about race and more about capitalist competition, though perception of differential treatment between Black and white mentors persists
  • Celebrity relationships moving at accelerated pace are amplified by social media documentation, creating external pressure that can either strengthen or destabilize partnerships
  • Artist catalog control and payment disputes remain systemic issues across generations, from Puff's handling of Bad Boy artists to current label practices with emerging talent
Trends
Streaming consolidation: Major platforms acquiring legacy studios to control content pipelines and reduce theatrical windowsDocumentary as narrative tool: High-production docuseries reshaping public perception of controversial figures through storytelling craftArtist independence movement: Growing frustration with traditional label structures driving demand for transparent business practicesSocial media-accelerated relationships: Celebrity couples moving faster due to public documentation and audience investmentGenerational wealth gaps in hip-hop: Disparity between founding generation wealth and emerging artist compensation despite industry growthAI in music production: Legitimate use cases emerging for voice recreation and archival purposes alongside ethical concernsPodcast monetization maturity: Branded partnerships and equity deals becoming standard revenue streams for podcast networksSports betting integration: Seamless embedding of gambling products into entertainment content targeting younger demographics
Topics
Netflix Warner Bros Discovery AcquisitionStreaming vs Theatrical Release WindowsDiddy Documentary AnalysisHip-Hop Business and GatekeepingCelebrity Relationship DynamicsArtist Payment and Catalog RightsPodcast Sponsorship and MonetizationAI Voice Technology in MusicSports Betting MarketingGenerational Wealth in EntertainmentSocial Media Impact on RelationshipsMusic Label PracticesDocumentary Storytelling EffectivenessIndependent Artist MovementEntertainment Industry Consolidation
Companies
Netflix
Announced $82 billion acquisition of Warner Bros Discovery, consolidating streaming dominance and acquiring HBO catalog
Warner Bros Discovery
Being acquired by Netflix for $82 billion; brings HBO, Max, and extensive film/TV catalog to streaming platform
HBO
Part of Warner Bros Discovery acquisition; hosts premium content library including The Wire, Game of Thrones, Sopranos
Atlantic Records
Label discussed regarding artist releases and album delays; mentioned in context of Roddy Rich project management
Bad Boy Records
Diddy's label discussed in documentary context; artists claim unpaid royalties and unfair business practices
Death Row Records
Discussed in context of Snoop Dogg and Daz Dillinger beef over ownership and artist payment disputes
PrizePicks
Sports betting platform sponsor offering stat projections and player prop betting for NFL and NBA
Adidas
Announced partnership with Club 520 podcast for branded content and commercial collaboration
Apple Music
Platform where Roddy Rich's Navy album was delisted, raising questions about label strategy and artist relations
LA Clippers
NBA team discussed regarding Chris Paul's controversial mid-season removal and organizational dysfunction
People
Sean Combs (Diddy)
Subject of Netflix documentary series analyzing his rise, business practices, and allegations of exploitation
Snoop Dogg
In ongoing dispute with Daz Dillinger over Death Row ownership and artist payment obligations
Daz Dillinger
Claiming Snoop Dogg owes money from pre-acquisition Death Row era; repeatedly raising grievances publicly
Chris Paul
Sent home mid-season by Clippers organization; controversial departure raises questions about veteran leadership
Meek Mill
Tweeted about Black OGs gatekeeping business information; implied tension with Jay-Z and Rick Ross
Jay-Z
Discussed as potential subject of Meek Mill's gatekeeping criticism; mentioned as powerful industry figure
Roddy Richh
Album repeatedly delayed and delisted from platforms; discussed as example of label dysfunction and artist frustration
Brandy Norwood
Allegedly not acknowledged by Beyoncé at recent concert; speculation about decades-long beef between artists
Beyoncé
Attended Brandy and Monica concert; reportedly did not greet Brandy, fueling speculation about industry tension
Pharrell Williams
Responded to political controversy at FN shoe awards with lengthy speech about ancestry and class
LeBron James
18-year streak of scoring 10+ points ended; made selfless pass instead of taking final shot
Lawrence Frank
Took responsibility for Chris Paul's removal from team; suggested organizational decision-making
Kawhi Leonard
Discussed as Clippers' star player; team lacks depth and chemistry despite talent
James Harden
Clippers' second star; discussed as aging veteran in declining performance phase
The Game
Released new album with DJ Drama and Mike and Keys; praised for consistent quality and West Coast production
Quotes
"He's a monster. Nothing comes across as he's a good dude."
Podcast panelistDiddy documentary discussion
"I don't have a favorite. But I think about it. I like different things about each one."
Joe BuddenParenting discussion
"You can't have a favorite. You cannot. I know. You can't have a favorite."
Podcast panelistParenting discussion
"If you're going to end your streak, end it the most LeBron way possible - making the right basketball play."
Podcast panelistLeBron James scoring streak discussion
"Black OGs are not helping. They're not talking. They're not funneling down information."
Meek Mill (quoted)Business gatekeeping discussion
Full Transcript
The thoughts views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts offer entertainment purposes only I Repeat it is not serious It is not real. No one is exposing revealing inditing Or telling you anything about themselves Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals Do not have your best interests at heart or aren't Enjoy the show Yeah People got a different type now I can't even say that cuz I used to go to the metro in that store So And Philadelphia pussy is very sought after That's unique to Philly yes Okay, no a couple Philly chick what they wasn't Philly chick, but they was working at Philly They had they had me on that on that phone and for in the morning trying to get my Uber Everybody like Philly girls, it's a fake I can't say now they moved to PA had nothing to do with Philly No, I'm just I Rico Everything I'm a Rico You got a new tap I got a couple how often do you get them? I don't know. I wanted I have took years off So I just want to get my shit together and then you know, I like tattoos now. I don't come to my girl. I got JVP When I first saw Mona's tattoo, I felt like Why so you got juice up there I know if that was for your homegirl or something different Well, you got juice box on your arm I got a juice box It's not about juices box that's what it sounds like you got a box on your own I just thought it would be cute to get a juice box for my girlfriend Hey, can the Philly people shut the fuck up? We all get into this little Venus and Serena Philly ping-pong game that the rest of the world don't give a fuck we cool And you said not you said so what's laundry's done? Like they can say the girl is crazy like that prevents them from fucking them No Depends on what stage you are you like like niggas saying that's not true. What's not true? I'm not fucking with that If a nigga told you yo, she crazy as hell, but she was bad you would you leave it in alone No, I'm I'm I want you to elaborate on what crazy yes because it's levels to crazy like yo She bust my windows in my car crazy or she got me Say it's other shit What's the kind of crazy you could deal with I? Don't like honestly speaking. I really don't like none of it. Mm-hmm. What's the kind you would do? We're talking about yeah, what's the kind of how you say I know I we ain't got we ain't talking about dealing with it We talk about I tell you I tell you taking it down Every dude deals with the crazy of who is that why you hit like 17 times? You know that the girls over like watch everything you do if she bad enough you would deal with that I hit it, but I'm not that's what we talking about It's all we talking about but I hit it in the way. I don't got to deal with that We're not talking about dealing with yeah We're not it's plenty and and that's what we said But at times then you pop the crazy chick and she becomes extra crazy But you knew ahead of time that this was a crazy chick That's what we talking about that niggas know she crazy and still going and do it and then now you stuck with super crazy I Don't I done told a couple of my homeboys after after having like you know They run some way and then the girl is at the crib talking talking to you I thought you're 90 minutes get out of it and I'm in my head like oh, I can't wait to my friend Man, I know I'm friggin back. I'm booming aside. Yo, yo get out of there Shorty pull me to decide to talk for 90 minutes. I'm telling you This chick is a different level get out of crazy. Get out of it Okay, I know you talking about so I remember well he love it Yeah, that means like go over thank you Some men like it and I think it's a levels man thing for sure Younger guys might you know they like it, but I think once you older you know already had your windows busted and had a couple Disorably, you know what I mean? That's what happens. You go to jail thing You know she's gonna cut all your electronics up in your house, you know, it's stupid shit. That's not like a personal story I can't remember when I was crazy like that and how like back when you back and back back I don't know. Wait like what when you was getting sauce No, I remember like like having that feeling like he enjoys this was almost like take the crazy out of it That's weird, but something like that. Mm-hmm. Are you drawing the dudes that are like that? Huh? Are you drawing to dudes? They got a little crazy in I don't think that that's a dude that has a little crazy in them. Those I don't know what that is that you like that I don't know if they get it confused with like attention or to make them feel that's a lot of it feels so after or whatever But that's weird to me. It's always been like nothing. I should yeah And then the whole like destroying property thing like that. That's just weird That's what I say all time if you in the crazy girls you probably ain't got enough experience Right crazy You think you think her blowing your phone up you know what you do you think that's great You ain't dealt with old girl from the line between love and hate crazy. Yes, you haven't gotten to that level You had them boys show up to crib or had for either of you Right. Yeah crazy Is they don't show up shit Doing a Cindy Loper video having an exercise and shit you don't know what to do Have you ever had that crazy? We were scared a bitch a little bit. Yes, really? Yes. That's so funny. I wasn't I was a physically scared. I've had crazy where I knew that there were no bounds for the person It wasn't nothing that they would do. I mean I wouldn't do and that and that right there is just some shit I'm been physically scared like You better not fall asleep don't close your eyes and don't let her dry. I've definitely had Slightly irrational fears of falling asleep for sure for sure When you said don't let her drive days me my favorite John like I would drive and be like I smashed this motherfucker right that was my thing In that moment. Did you mean it? No? I don't know But I will always say like I'm a smash it but I would on his side, you know, I mean like it was I'm gonna kill a little swarming when you say this side. Yeah, you think you can drive like that. Let's see car I'm a good driver. I just had this conversation with somebody. I'm a great You seem like you might like I don't drive like I'm from Jersey. You know what I mean? Whoa, whoa, you're not a good driver Jersey people can't drive and it's a known thing. We're not always time on that being said number two in the country and my personal experience is the square state PA oh The other number two in the list bad drivers correct Oh and Philly niggas talk about Jersey drivers Nationally regarded as terrible driver. Why would everybody say Nationally got a mind a business where nationally don't bring up national don't bring up the nation I New York Cat and then me and parks talking about it last night drivers DC drivers and Atlanta drivers are on this list Landlady Landam right got the cake when man. Let is the worst place Landon had a kid when me and parks talked about it We were finishing each other's sentences about your like literally knew exactly what like I don't know y'all suck at Alright, so y'all bonded one night Yeah, Mike We are with us and everybody else. Yeah, everybody else is wrong, right? It's a scenario I came on here and said I'm back to the stalker shit down cuz it's a movie in my head I came away and said when the stalker girl was a jogger and she was jogging just by my house And she said a water water water out there for me. I'm by your house Yeah red dress Skimmy so much I was trembling getting her number No, that was a bullshit that day, okay, and then past crazy cuz I ain't gonna call it crazy but when you when you When you meet the girl that really only like girls But then she likes your dick and now she's open to men you the first guy to have opened up the men that girl's in that case That girl is an absolute stalker deranged She's also a little I don't think I fucked that many lesbians. Yeah about say I argued that they not lesbians I guess I'm with you sexual Think that they're not lesbians you being the first penis that they enjoy you think they're not like no your behavior from penis Tells me that you're not a lesbian. Okay. Oh Guess what I didn't know y'all Lesbians like the harder versions. I don't know if you're allowed to stay like Like with a z I think that I think so my people like it They like dick if they be sneak-ticking Bro late night late night at the YY and they get in the YY separately They get in the same car they bros but she got a fat ass under the metacus First of all always thought that is suck like imagine being a stud you got this whole milk persona, but you got a fat old ass on you But they put three sports bars on it But it's one it's one city in the middle, but when you walk past with that fat ass you sagging on some tough shit You know me like bro. Yeah, it's fat as shit, bro. You know me that's the suck or you you're old hippie Shout out to y'all hippie studs. Yeah. Yeah hippie hippie. No, they see dick and I'm telling you they have a craving for it Okay, thanks for that information. I mean I also add this I always thought it was strange men that were attracted to them because it's like they get the whole persona's male You know what I mean? So what's up with you? I? Concur you feel me? I think and when I say that people are still a girl But I'm just saying her her exterior gives me and so what attracted you like what made you look through the ethics at the Fed I Ever like dating stuff Never hit a star no No Why are you making a face? I ain't making no I'm laughing at Mona. You know something you know something I want to mark pop the stud Why y'all don't come to it I was about you but then I made the face And he just told me to fuck out. I'm mine in my business. Can I hear from y'all? I'm this is interesting. Oh, how'd it go? You took the wave cab off before you pop That was No really, what happened? Bro, we were really good friends and she was curious. Okay. That's it. So you were like the entry, that makes sense, that's a good way to start. I love what I used to tell him, bro. I used to tell him, he simplifies everything. Yeah, he's a little more grown up shit. So you're going to be agitated by the time he tell it. So you mean to tell me. He's an entry level dick. Yeah. He should like, he was like, he was like, I'm a star, she's like, I'm a star basically. See, see, see. I know it's right now. It's early, so my brain ain't functioning all the way yet. So I'm about to be raw. And I hate that I'm the guy that always highlighted. I know that you think I'm brain-toying. So you mean to tell me. I don't, all the niggas in Nebraska. She got curious and said, you know what? I need some a little freaks. Yeah, nigga. All right, big dog shit. Damn right. Big dog shit. Damn right. All right, what's that you brother Mark? My situation was different. What happened was when I met her, she wasn't a stud. And then I circled back like five years later, and she looked different. Like I bumped into her like at a bar. Barbershop? Oh. At a barbershop. They got on up together. Yo, take me up. Take for that thing. No, she was, I was like, what happened to you? She was like, Mark, you can't do that. What happened to you? I just say it like that. But I was like, oh, you look different. Like yes. And she was like, oh, you know how many girls down with the, with the, with the, we exchange info actually just to get up. You know what I mean? And you got up. And then she sent me a text that night. Like, you know, I'm still in the niggas. So we got, we, you know what I mean? That was it. Well, she come to be in boxes and to beat her. Word. Only five times. Three? Only three times. Now see, they did your thing. Now after, after, after y'all were done with you three times, did she fuck with you more than she go back to girls? I don't know. I think I said she, no, she, no, no, I take that back. Well, I don't know. This is, cause y'all was fighting. She would have never. 20 years ago down there. So she's, she's into girls. She's, she's. Yeah. She, she, she. She's okay. You killed that girl. Don't recommend. Don't bring nobody great clothes with you. You ain't rent for the niggas. All right, listen. You gotta read the Yelp review on that one. When y'all were friends, for her to approach you as friends, I know it fucked you up. Like you would shock like what? Like, cause that shit bro, that shit homie. Yeah. It was y'all's. It was. It was y'all. It was y'all's. It was y'all's. It was like looking behind them. All right. One type of pile we have in the video. I think you already know. I need clear. Hey, you know the answer now. I need it clear though. I need it clear. But wait, cause I seem like I'm on bullshit, but I do have a serious question for y'all. Ice and Mark. Was there every time where y'all was on top? And she just was lean back on some chills. Like, while you was doing your numbers. You think she was heading from behind? When I see, I'm serious. You never serious. I promise you, I want to know if y'all was on top pause. You be on your pack man shit. She was like, you can. Not doing this. I am no longer sharing. Freezes the eater. No longer sharing. Oh man. You can't be the stud eater. She stood up on that. What the hell? What the hell? Put her leg up and shit. Oh shit. Oh man. Would y'all do it again? Would y'all do it again? No. Mark, well, if you weren't. I know what you mean. No, I know what you mean, but no. Even if we were single, we would do it. Yeah, I would. That was fucking ridiculous. I wouldn't say I would. You wouldn't do it to that particular girl. You didn't know I was one of your fire. I'm not talking about her. Home girls, that was just a fire stud. Cause they do be fired. I seen it. If they open to it. If I was single and they would open to it, it'd be different. Probably. You wouldn't, Joe? I mean, I can't say that I would. I'm not attracted to that aesthetic. No, but remember, I seen it before she was that. So I had the memory of the three. She ain't that no more. She was that when she was when I saw that night. That's the thing. If I got away to you getting that kid to be attracted to you, I wouldn't, but I'm not knocking on my door. How about you, Ish? It's not my thing. Like I can't. Me and you fuck bad bitches all life, nigga. Ish, you want to tell me anything? You want to tell me? When you want to sip your little tea and be cute in your little quarters, it's a fuck. Listen, me and Ish put up and put numbers on the board our entire lives. We didn't go through like dull spells like anybody else. Right, y'all. Every inch. Me and Ish, anything we wanted to hit, that's who we hit. I love when we do that. And if you got it like that. Cause you my man, I just let you cook. And if you got it like that. I'm letting him, right. I let him cook. Why would it be a stud? You know what I mean? So if y'all hit baby, it's all like, y'all never hitting an ugly ever. I definitely hit some ugly. I definitely hit some ugly. But I want to tell people about it. Ugly with the big ass. I was about to say, please say no. She was ugly with that. He. He. He. He. She was ugly with that. He. He. One in particular. I was like, this nigga Joe is tripping. I ain't fucked, hold up now. It ain't a whole bunch of ugly. I ain't said a bunch. I'm just talking about that one. That one. What was up with that one? It was just, it was very different than what I was used to seeing him. Oh, but he be putting imaginary people on my body. You talking about that body guard, bitch. I did not. That's what you're telling me. No, I did not. Joe, I did not. We gotta do this, Joe. You said it's not. You all fucking fucked with the body guard. You fucked female Kevin Costner? I did not fuck that body guard. They could be lying, bro. I promise you. They're gonna ask me to take a friend out so he could, y'all know what I mean, with a chick. And I still didn't fuck a body guard. Now they said for like the boots and the whole black uniform. I can assure you. I'm gonna shoot you some bell. Oh my kids. The body guards be having fat asses under them uniforms. Right back to the beach. Right back. The basses be fat asses. So you fucked a body guard. I seen her knock niggas out. Security guard, police. I was afraid. Police be having fat asses under them. You have to step from the stud. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You are crazy. They look like women. Niggas with the fat ass under them. Fucking a police officer with a fat ass is about, no way, no way. You can't even make it make sense with your PhD. I'm saying they be proud. They don't have the means. It's just you're the body guard. Nah, it's not. Is she not niggas out? We talking about two different things. Yeah, we talking about two different things. I'm saying all of that is in the public territory. No, it's not. No, chick I'm talking about was six four, two 90. That's the one you fucked. And a knock you out. That's the one you fucked. No, not at all. You climbed up. On my kids. Don't play with me. Don't ruin my body. Yo, yo, yo, yo. I love niggas lying on their kids. Well, I was gonna say on God, but that don't work here. Yeah. It worked for you. But we say it. Oh man. Yo. That's crazy. Six four. Yeah, I was gonna say that. That's being generous. Wow. Were you intimidated? A little. A little. She took it. She took it for sure. Oh yeah. Yeah. Picked his ass down. Frist him and fucked him. Frist him. Yeah, she did. Oh man. Frist him. I'm sorry that happened to you. Yeah, but nothing happened to me. It's not funny about that. You could have been it. It's all right. It didn't. It wasn't your fault. The baby sitter. It's OK. It wasn't your fault. Well, no. I was an adult. It was a child when the baby sitter took advantage. Oh my god, Joey. And that's not OK. That's wrong person, first of all. None of it is OK. The bodyguard taking it ain't OK. No, no, no. I'm saying I know you and the bodyguard were consensual. I used to confirm that. And I'm glad for you, man. Yo, that is hilarious, man. You're the fucking bodyguard. Was it his bodyguard? No. No. Damn. That's just weird. The funny thing is, if you ask her, she ain't even going to lie and say that that happened. She wouldn't even lie on it. Who might already ask that? He might admit that one night they slammed him, and they got down and took it. I ain't talk to her. Y'all both better stop playing with that bitch when she finds y'all. Word. Yeah, I don't know if she is. She knows exactly what she is. Ain't that many six foot four at two nights? She just rolled the window up and turned the radio up. Is these niggas talking about me? The niggas must have forgot her. The money shit. The black Twitter streets know who the fuck we talking about. She got a long term relationship after and put that nigga through the door. Why you come on, son? Now you doing the most. She put that nigga through the door. For years, she was fucking him up. Boom, nigga, what you saying? Yo, they still going. They still going. He can't leave. No, no, no, I'm talking about. They still, yeah, they tumble. To this day. Love. See, I love. Now that you are out. Yo, play something, please. Here we go. I mean, let's get some fairy tales going for the lies being told up here. It's a lot of lies being told. It's not going to play Paul Simon or the dark came to the compound, but I hit though. Yummy. Mad stories. Shout out to all the police women out there. What's up? All the crazy women, all the stalkers, all the beautiful studs. Who did? If I fuck a stud, they got to have some waves. Yummy. Have to have some waves. That's weird, bro. Hey, yo, you look, look, look. Now, it's funny. Think about this. I remember I was fucking with the chick with the real, real short haircut. That shit was awkward. That shit is awkward. Corey, I'm lying. That shit is awkward. Not the, not the Halle Berry cut. I'm talking about short, not no Tony Brack's. That shit is. Tripping. We had this conversation yesterday. Me and him. You wasn't the awkward. I said the same thing. Oh, oh, let the man there. I'm going to say if. Yeah. He's with the more ammo. I'm on your side of the. Oh, yeah. You crazy, man, especially in the 2000s. Yeah, I want to hear. I want to hear. That neo soul Tom girls at the little John A. Jerry. You know what I mean? Like the short cut stand. The most. What's awkward about it? You grab him by the. Nothing. That's the shit. That's the part they're missing. That's the part they're missing. No, you just got, you might not be. It's cool. Yeah. All right. Okay. I wish I had some on excuse. That shit is weird by the guy. But, but you can't tell me why. They got a low ass haircut and you, you know what I mean? Yeah. You know, you get a little bit of a tight down. You know, I'm going to touch you. Yeah. Like, you know, Nick, you get in the good head. You start being a hairdresser. You're trying to. You're even the word. Yeah. I should be different. Really? Just looking at the body from the back. You know, you do. You know, when a chick with a low haircut give you good head, there's other things that can happen besides you being a hairdresser. No, I'm. You can touch their body. There's also less of an appearance. I'm sure they be down here on me. But a chick got that low hand. You get to fill a scalp. That's a different type of intimacy. First of all, when you get to rub on a fucking scalp and it's like, Oh my God, that is beautiful. Shout out to all my short hair queens. I did. I absolutely love y'all. I love short hair. Love. Not that short. I'm little bald. And you pitched it to him wrong. Like you said, Niel. So I was in doing that time a lot of things. That was fine. If you said like ivory soul or some shit. Oh, where I got you? There you go. Get him again. But yeah, boy white bitch, it changes world. They were in that genital kind of. Yeah. Exactly. I'm good. Awkward. Demi Moore. Shit. Demi had that. Yo, when y'all fuck the studs. When y'all fuck the studs, if y'all went out like, did they have a pet? Hold the door. Hold the chair up. Put your jacket on. Put your jacket on. Put your jacket on. Put your jacket on. Put your jacket on for you. Oh, wait. Yo, girl, let me smack y'all ass. Yeah. Like after the act. Like, hey, yeah, bow. Thanks. On some point. Yeah. Got it, got it, got it. All right, this is a family show. Yeah. Big time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. This man shit that wouldn't let her do what we was fuckin' And she got no how to make grits, get your boy in us and then fuckin' get the chef in He be shocked how many chicks don't know how to make grits until you ask him It's a lot of chicks that don't know how to make grits So I say to you, can we talk? So glad you could be here with us, shout to the pechonies Shout to everybody over here on YouTube Wherever you listen in from, kick it loose I feel your heart and you feel mine You bring me joy Alright man, we gonna start this bad boy but I need to hear this verse Oh shit, and New Year's Eve, shout to everybody making New Year's Eve plans Everything is creeping up Yeah I know And I got no plans I think it's gonna be quiet for me this New Year's Eve too We might have a little party somewhere or something I'm not mad at that Lowkey shit but I'm not mad at Lowkey New Year's Eve but she is I'm not That means keep this applause going for the best show on turf I'm burning No sugar, need Alright, 884, welcome to episode 884 of the J.B.P Brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Price, speaks Price, speaks gang I'm your humble gracious, grateful, super happy to be here Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people To my right, you already know the vibes, huh? And Tacoma, Washington, they gonna know the vibe this week Big show this weekend out there, make some noise, don't call me white girl Big Damona in the building Next to her we have our good brother, got our good, I can't talk to that Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamar Hill is in the building Next to him we have fucking King Wawa, Mr. Thousand Doors and up That's that ish in the quarter zip, hey Hey Is this any of this shit out yet, in the streets? This week, this week, oh got it, got it They got the quarter zip on them already, killing them This week, the YN's ready That nigga turned shit around faster than, I'm not even thinking about that Faster than fashion, Nova boy, if he think it, that shit is out Being male to you In 24 hours or less Hey, hey, I mean Bad link I know, I know Yeah Hey, wait a minute now Hey Alright, come on, that's too much fun Next to him we got the freesiest of them all Mr. Taking Further Ice is in the building Next to him, big parks, Elm Irish Finances in the building We got Poe in the building, Corey is here, Eric Sinney is here Tiana and Sabana here by remote Last but certainly not least Each and every one of you guys are here How's everybody doing, what's poppin' on, what's poppin' on What's up man, what's up man, I'm better than y'all Feel great, busy week, good Good, good, glad everybody was feeling great Can I say fuck y'all, just real fast because Who's y'all? Everybody Except, well yeah, Mona too Last week I passed out on set Yeah Nobody checked them, and they got woke you up You've been doing it for a year I didn't fall asleep, I actually passed out You didn't pass out What did I do? You fell and I thought you hit your head on the thing So you were sitting there like this Yeah, I was caught being knocked out Looking like CD Lamb and I was like yo Me and Mona looked at each other like that I'm not sure if it was for the TV Yeah, no, I was out I might have hit you but And then when you woke up you were like nah nah nah, I'm good, I'm good I finished working because I'm a professional But a little, you okay? How'd you pass out? I really don't know, I was a little sick last week You're building a case, what the fuck is this? Did someone here take advantage? Yo, what's wrong with you, dogs? This is a little, are you alright? Mona asked me today, like yeah you alright I was knocked out last week It's been seven days We saw you posted I think so, I haven't passed out since Good, there you go Is that your first time passing out? Yeah, it was weird Well we glad you were alright Some doctor he is Anywhere y'all want to go, I'm down to go boss We got big news in the entertainment This is absolutely crazy This news is absolutely nuts It was announced that Netflix is acquiring Warner Brothers Acquire, did it Not even acquiring it 87 or 82 billion dollars Insanity It's crazy to me to think about how this could even happen I remember when Netflix was just, you know they mailed you in a CD or a DVD Little niggas And then they were fighting Blockbuster Now they are the behemoth on the landscape It's crazy to me to see how far they've come It speaks to some of the CEOs and their vision Dead ass Nobody could have ever thought that this was going to turn into that Yeah You know what I mean, like that's crazy I looked at this as a pivot move or a response move Because I remember A couple years ago Netflix had that movie Bright With Will Smith God, it failed But at the time it was like If this works because you got A-Lister Will Smith And this movie was straight to Netflix If this works This could literally change the game And you saw a lot of All, I mean the movie wasn't the greatest But it did look like It was a lot of input on it So that this did not work So with that not working Our next option is Now we're going to come over here and buy up a studio Yeah We're going to get in this way And not a studio So now they got I mean that's HBO HBO Max So now you got the whole Oz entourage You got Sex in the City You got all of those catalogs for Niggas to just stream Niggas that never heard about it They could go, I mean Niggas that heard about it never saw it Right, I'm right there There's way more movies The game is subscriber base So Now you phase out the HBO Max app You could We're going to get there too Because that's part of the problem for me And I know a lot of stuff is going to get Developed in Q3 So even though they made the acquisition You'll see it in like in the third quarter of 2026 You'll see a lot of this stuff One of the things they said was they're going to keep Warner Brothers the brand Because I think that's smart The ego you just want to take over everything Warner Brothers is a brand name It's an American tradition So you're still going to see Warner Brothers in the movie theater I think that's brilliant Hold on to those titles What happens is you'll see Warner Brothers And then underneath it will say a Netflix company Yeah, that's okay But I need to see that Warner Brothers I was watching certain shows And I'm used to seeing Whatever the logo is And then underneath it will say such and such Now it's changing, Sundance Because they're buying up these networks You think this is going to change the kind of programming they do? Original programming? Yeah, you see like a prequels for things You know like Netflix is producing a lot of content Right now In the same way like after HBO We had HBO Max and you started to see different kinds of content Come on HBO label I'm just wondering will it shape the kind of shows we're going to see I think you acquire HBO for their back catalog Because HBO not necessarily doing what Netflix does You know what I'm saying? So now I'm going to just go get all the HBO shit Now put that up under my umbrella But we can still keep doing We've already been the greatest in master at You know what I'm saying? I think that's dope I think they would have to Back catalog is awesome But Netflix has built their own studio They're getting into original shit I could see a world where They take a story that they didn't have access to And now prequel it like you said Or make it go further That's what I'm expecting At that number I'm thinking more than back catalog They have to have a plan But even that Their plan has been right in front of us They're doing this which is incredible This is monumental What they announced with their That they're doing with those video podcasts Their football games Netflix went live Just that Netflix going live and they tested it out With little comedy special here Boxing match here Netflix sports They are This is a full on takeover We got sports What's next news? Big dogs on the block now This is our block now We're not even battling you on this block We bought the block We bought the battlefield It's exciting I do like the HBO app I hope they leave it there Y'all don't care either way I like HBO When I said I'm thinking about What Hulu did What Disney did with the Hulu They integrated everything into the Disney app I could see HBO doing the same thing I think that's right If they do that What old show becomes number one right away The wire Game of Thrones Game of Thrones Game of Thrones, Sopranos, Swire Yeah You got 10 HBO had a run of like A good 12 shows That just was True Blood Sopranos, Sex in the City, Entourage They just had the wire They just went crazy for a good 15 years 2 decades Now all of that stuff to people that's 28, 29 years old That wasn't around You're like yo I'm watching Oz This deal was the first time I thought about How much money Netflix has $80 billion to spend When I went to bed all of the reports said Netflix is thinking about acquiring And when I woke up Netflix has a choir Netflix has it now That's what it said Not everybody's happy I know you said you can't get mad at that But a lot of people are getting mad at that Who's mad at that Some politicians Elizabeth Warren Mark don't politics you're muted there Is anybody else mad What's the argument It's an antitrust argument And it'll be Ultimately up to the feds To find out whether it's true or not The idea that market dominance They basically have a monopoly Over the entire streaming industry Which is not what you're not supposed to have Reducing competition And then also having too much control So the idea is That they can dictate terms to directors In Hollywood or content creators Because they got You got no place else to go That's the argument content creators are worried about And from the political side Which I do think matters The question is Does this stop Are they too powerful That's the thing people are worried about Netflix has said in their defense This is going to create more opportunities for creatives More avenues through the various things they're acquiring It's up to the world to decide But people are not happy about it I mean there was a I'm reading here from Variety Says a group of major industry players Has sent an urgent open letter to congress Warning of an economic And institutional meltdown in Hollywood If Netflix succeeds in acquiring Warner Brothers Slash Discover And that's what I heard when you were talking about The content creators and politicians Hollywood Yeah that's what I'm thinking But again, old guard What does this mean for the movie theaters This could be way more than just Streaming like now We got Warner Brothers Act their studios, we have everything We can literally create new films And bring them straight to Netflix But yo, aren't we already there? No The transition is slow but the writing's on the wall Bro, a movie comes out In a month That shit is on pay-per-view And being able to be streamed That's a month if it's doing bad in theaters That's not true It used to be six months The average right now is Three months if it's doing okay If it's doing bad in theaters If they have a horrible first week If they're taking an L on it They'll pull it from theaters And then they'll shoot it straight to streaming But on average it's about three months now Wow That's still short I don't like it It was a while It might be January Or maybe late spring That's different though You had to make all this shit and distribute it Sinners did well It was able to be streamed in July The first week of July That's fast Sinners was a hit I don't like it It takes the thing out of the movies You don't have that thing of And I always enjoyed going to the movie theater If the movie theater wasn't your thing If you were going to a movie theater since a kid You first dated the movie theater You got a hand job movie theater It's a thing for you I've been on a movie theater Sticking around and everyone thinks it's the end of the world I don't think, I think my movie theater That I go to which is not an eye picker One of the fancy ones They just renovated the whole shit So clearly there's still some money coming in I think I look at what you're saying about movie theater We live in right now and a lot of people Are in the, I want it right this second The same way malls took a hit Because now you can go on Amazon and order everything And it comes next day or same day Niggas want to be able to hear this is available And I can just go home and push a button and watch it That convenience, but I'm just saying the level of Convenience and people wanting everything immediately There's a lot of people that would It's certain movies where it's like I don't want to go to the movies to see it And if I knew it dropped today and I could go home And just hit a button and watch it Personally I would take that That's because that Netflix is false That's just, that's just the way the The tech is moving All of that progression, all of that The world's changing because I'm pro world changing But I just feel like the direction we go to Is just less human contact And I just, I don't think it's a good thing That we do not see you in your house On the shitter watching a movie Versus you go have a little conversation with the popcorn girl You say hi to the movie guys We just, we never want to see each other Popcorn girl was a bitch She was drooling this fucking And don't ask, don't ask back to your button My popcorn girl was the best Mona the other side to that How much it cost to go to movies? It was expensive You would spend a hundred bucks if you go with somebody Whereas I could pay y'all this What is it, I think Netflix right now If you got the top package It's 24.99 a month or something Don't say that again, that was crazy Top package If you had their best I mean I get it, I get it I could go home and watch the movie With my family Even if they sell in the stream Independently for $20 I could go home with my family of five For $20 I'll be breaking the Netflix up to like five other people Can't do that no more That shit is a dub Over for that The message comes on the screen like Nigga you know it's five of y'all using this Nah that shit pop up, this is not the house Where this account is registered Either put a code in Or sign up for your own shit I don't know what y'all talking about That is a bona fide fact that Netflix shut that shit down for a year You cannot share your passport With everybody watching, you would have to Get on a schedule and everybody picked times to watch it But when you click it at the same time They know and they shut it down And now what they do is they give you two weeks So they'll send you a code You got it for two weeks and two weeks from now We're gonna lock this shit out again Sign up They sent it shit on the top of the screen My people sent their people's to email Wait you don't got your own Netflix You use some of these I mean my girl uses it I thought you were the owner and you distributed it to your man No, he's the password bar You don't have Netflix No I'm really surprised I don't know why y'all surprised It's don't deal with like I don't care about that What do you do for fun? What you mean? Talking to phone? So much fun You know I don't care about Like techy stuff and all that Like the apps and all that Cause I know you don't do social media like that It's not really my bad So you don't do social media like that You don't have Netflix You have it but you're not really into TV shows He got a phone I read books I read the paper Mona's having a hard time figuring out What you really know What could it be? Damn man What is it? It's an element I can't quite put up finger on it I don't get the joke Hey Mona Hey Mona I got you girl Hey look at me The pussy I was thinking that Hey Mona It's the pussy It's the pussy It's the pussy You said that last week he is born for podcast And pussy He born for podcast You're born for pussy Yo what is wrong with this guy Yo man Y'all should stop sharing passwords though And I'm not mad at Netflix dragging down If you trying to buy some shit that costs $84 billion I'm talking about a little bit From every one of y'all $1799 $1399 Just wait I already thought about Shit It makes sense You said you watched the puffed up Did everyone here watch the puffed up All four episodes You five take it away I didn't really get that much more information From this I think it was really well done I didn't get a lot more information In the doc that we got a couple years ago And through all the press coverage of the last year Personally It was just better done like you said Yeah this was really well done And they painted the picture they were trying to paint Oh for sure They were trying to paint or the picture that it is Cause we say trying to paint it's like they got a narrative Or is that just what it is Whatever their intention was with this doc They nailed it That's what I'm saying I think when you tell a story about anybody You can tell That will leave you feeling different about him That would also be true But this one Felt true And this one needed to be told given everything that's going on I'm not defending it I'm just saying I do think there's multiple stories and they had a particular story they wanted to tell Which I thought was good and for me I agree with y'all It wasn't so much that it was new information And I think you said this the other day Joe It wasn't that it was new information but the storytelling was so good And a lot of these docs especially ones that come out fast This is not good storytelling And again remember y'all My bad mona y'all speaking for y'all demo Like my parents called me Fair And was like Yo I had no idea About a lot of the stuff that they mentioned in this It was shit that was new to me But I looked at this Excuse me Nigga this shit was higher than Stranger Things Oh no they made some of this Well cause the Stranger Things niggas is 39 I know that but I'm playing that I'm not even sure how y'all are getting this I've played them we're talking about Stranger Things But my point though And they grew up weird now They did They grew up weird And nobody wants to say So they're trying to put these niggas on the promo run They look like Stranger Things You can't really go ahead man But the fact is A lot of people were waiting for Stranger Things And this was higher than that So this tells me it's gonna be a lot of eyes A lot of new information Some of us here might know certain things I gained new information And they painted this shit as That was his MO Oh okay That's your girl I want her And I'm gonna whatever I'm taking that Eric service stuff I didn't know Lisa my man was like On the window I was like this motherfucker crazy I didn't know That he got bad The neighbor They're living in Duplex They're living downstairs to the other family He alluded to that he went through rough beating He's getting zazzed It was like It was so traumatic or whatever I love that part His mom was so close And his mom was in love with him Whenever you would see him I didn't know that And I like the fact that They really went into I took it like Janice was still street connected After the dad died Before it was almost like Before it was like He's this big drug dealer He gets murdered they have my verny He's going to private school She's driving in Harlem and she's her She was outside for real That's the brilliance of it to me When you tell a story like that where you leave the audience Understanding it without having to be heavy handed With some of these other dogs My man was like yeah she's just leaving the car there Just saying it like that We got it when I had it To me that's what made the story tell us It must have been pretty wild for Puff to have found out His mom was working in the after hour spot On a talk show I didn't think that was real I thought that he just reacted that way You ain't got to tell the world I think he knew what his mom was going on That's just some cutie shit for TV That's how I took it part They in tune and they tight I don't know If you zoom in without what it might have been Because you know we in this we in the industry shit So you know you say what you supposed to say Or what the public should tell you to say But at one point he's doing some kind of interview That I've never seen before And it's like from the late 90s or early 2000s And he says something about That he That his mom was that's the same It's the same scene from when he was talking About that he had to fight Like he had the whoop ass or he would get in trouble That interview I had never seen that before ever Like I've seen every little When they show clips of his interviews and shit I've already seen it Because the way he was talking about Candle It seemed like he was being real honest And it was a title Something almost like that was a documentary that never came on Yeah at that part I don't know the source of it But I agree All the childhood stuff Having people tell stories from his childhood It gave you a sense of his mindset They were building a case about his mindset That I thought was helpful When Joe came in To talk about it I thought it was going to be worse Than what it was For me to Parkes point I had heard 97% Of that shit already A couple things were New like I never heard the niggas say Yo he really gave us a million He hired us for a million dollars I never heard that before That was new for me But I think the part about Him getting his ass whooped by his mom And I think the whole episode four I think they shot him some bell They tried to be fair I think episode four really shot him A whole bunch of bell Where was the bell? The jurors They didn't have to do that in that doc They didn't have to talk to the jurors Because the jurors were like nah we thought she was lying And we felt They didn't have to display that in the doc I think the dude Rod Nobody took him seriously Which is a shame I think that I'm saying that as somebody that didn't take him seriously I have a question for all of you all About Rod I didn't take him serious at all And then hearing that I was like Damn son I always thought that Rod was the one that got it jumping Because Rod wanted his money wherever he said Give me my fucking money or else and then he went And so is that really true that Rod is the one that got the shit from? No Cassie got the jump Rod happened in January Cassie happened like three months earlier And then everybody looked at Rod Like oh you saw what happened You tried to get him But there was like a hundred more I definitely think they was fucking though Puffy and Rod for sure I think he hit that Personal opinion What I took from it is that Puffy is a shitty businessman On the side of Paying people And I think a bunch of these people Are working with him for a long time Go ahead No And I just think a lot of them niggas I think a lot of them niggas was mad I think bitter you could hear the anger In some of their voices as they talk about What he did to them in business And so I think that it was almost like This is my time to get back The Rod story did come off like a love story Yes it did They were cut I'm not taking that away from him But his complaints are wasn't the best But it just gave They go together a little The shit that really got me was When we were talking about Big Funeral I never heard that before Some people have come out and some of that Was well well well It wasn't true But I mean Seeing that moment Seeing the way he was presenting himself And hearing the other things It was like that disturbed you the most, the money part of it? The whole shit, like just seeing. Big play for his own funeral, I think. This is the money part, that part. That'll be fucked up? Yes, that will be very fucked up. Yes, yes. Yes, yes. I went on record saying that I'm gonna pay for this. I'm gonna have you. And then when I see the expenses start pallid up, I'm trying to do this shit big, no pun intended. And now it's too much and I'm like, I ain't paying for that. You're not saying it's fucked up to not pay for it, you said it's fucked up to say you're gonna do it and not do it. No, it's fucked up to say we gonna do this bigger than anybody's ever seen. I want the biggest thing New York's ever seen. We gonna throw Big through Manhattan, Brooklyn, wherever. And then when you start seeing the expenses pile up, you say, yo, I wanna do it, that shit, he gotta pay for it. No, I'm with you. I'm with you. But I'm saying, if that hadn't happened, I'm just curious, I'm just curious that I had when I was watching it. If he hadn't said all that and they just did a normal funeral and he had any pay for that, a big estate instead of his own pocket, would that be fucked up? Yes. For me, yes. Yes, yes. Especially when I feel like Puffy, the fun thing, bad businessman or not, the nigga got a vision. He knew what he was about to do after that nigga died as far as all the songs missing you to be, he knew he was gonna go hard on the death part. That was a no, he knew, and I feel like Puffy wanted that rap thing. And I think with Biggie going, he knew he could rap a little more. Like, you know what I mean? I could be the rapper. So I was like, yeah, so if you know that, the least you could do is pay for the fucking funeral and look out for the kids. Like, what the fuck? Is that your man or not? Is that your friend or not? Like, is it confirmed that that wasn't true? Hard to say this boy sounds like a bull side. Because if it's not true, I think that's hard for him, bro. Why the fuck could we just know? He was just spoke out, he said he was speaking on behalf of Violet Wallace, the state and everything, and said that is 100% not true. That Biggie paid for his own funeral? Yes, that did not happen. Now, a lot of people just go down that rabbit hole if you want and say, is it possible somebody said, yo, my man, I need you to say this and clear this up? All right, we don't know. Because she gone. Because she's exactly. Yeah, and there's been other allegations of stories changing from that side after some other agreements with me. I don't know what's true or what's not. Fuck if it's true or not. If any two things in this four part thing is true. He's a monster. Wow. I think Puff is a monster regardless, by the way. Nothing comes across as he's a good dude. Like, some of that footage there with him and his son saying, yo, we need to call such and such and have her do this. Like, some of that shit was hard to watch, bro. The Orbeo day shit was riveting. Orbeo day. Am I saying the name? Yeah, I believe so. Orbeo day episode four, having to listen to somebody, tell her for certain what was happening with her and she was passed out and blacked out and don't remember any of it. As someone who also doesn't drink, she said, yeah, no, that's. Yeah, that's crazy. You know, what was fucking shocking to me because growing up as a puppy fan and, you know, being a person, you know, separating the artists from the person. I just wanted to assume that that happened to him from the money and it happens to Hollywood. Nah, he was just fucked. Like, you know what I mean from the gate. I think it's the combo. That's why it got worse. That's what made the storyteller so good. It's like, OK, he's born into this really unusual, unusual situation in some ways, privileged in some ways, really fucked up, a lot of trauma. And then you add on to that this whole world that almost no one in the history of the world has ever experienced. That's the hell of a combo. Because even the guy said there was that moment where he felt the switch golf and who Puffy became. And he's like, oh, that was the last time I saw the puppy I grew up with. Suddenly he looked. So I think it's both. I think it's like trauma mixed with power that just turned you into somebody else. They did a really good job. Because even when they start showing like video music box, they show the nerdy kid dancing on the steps. Yeah, that was just thirsty as hell. Was thinking that. Trying to get into the industry by any means. And then they showed this transition of him now being a party promoter, being the hottest party promoter and then transitioning to Andre Harrell's assistant. And then like, I think they just did a really good job of telling the story of who he was and who he became. But we was outside like, bro, it's hard to find somebody that was as popular as Puff in the late 90s. Early 2000s, bro. Of course, like we talking about pre. So social media. So you still could maintain a level of mystery and mystique. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, dog, them niggas was just something that we've never. I think Russell Simmons kind of passed the torch to Puff. Right. I'm a jump over Andre Harrell. No disrespect. Intendance. No disrespect intended. But I just think that Puffy took black music somewhere that that we haven't seen it go, especially as far as the money goes. My sampling is still it. Well, that was the other thing. I mean, they said it explicitly at times. He's like, he's not that talented. He's not. And that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that's what they say. I actually think he is talented. I think they underestimate. But back then they would say that back then a lot of people didn't like the fact that that's all he did was simple shit. People, you know, sitting there. And back then, and back then people didn't like when he was running around doing the big shit, people said that shit back then. I was a puppy. And I remember people would say like he was exploiting him and it was question of what he did for the family. But I think it's I always am skeptical of those narratives of like almost like anybody could have done this. They can. And it's like they could not. It's a unique person, unique talent to do what he did. Puffs air for music alone is unique. Right. Finding talent, talent to people is a talent. Yeah, that is a talent. Yeah. And developing them. But having having producers in the room, other producers in the room, every single time you produce it and then it's you already we already know that he would take things from you. So it's like, to assume that maybe the good ideas came from the niggas. He sat with him. He just put his name. If I'm the conductor and y'all are the orchestra, I'm still I might not I might I ain't got to be able to play a single instrument, but I'm the one that's arranging and doing all this shit. That's making it all come together. Right. And I get that is a talent. Right. Everybody can't do that. Right. I get that. But that guy being also the guy that comes in your office with a bat and say, sign off your son over your fucking stock. Like to me, it's just like, how the fuck do we know what he added into it? Who the fuck you found? But I mean, it's a good point. That's all I'm gonna ask you this. And I'm a puppy. He died hard back in the day. The hitman was the hitman. Mm hmm. Did any of them kind of has a different. It has a different ring to it. Damn. Where the fuck is TV? Jay. My point is this, all of those niggas are talented. Where did they go on to? What did they go on to like when you take me out the studio now? If I'm still the genius nigga, like I think Kanye West is a genius. I think Kanye West could create music with some fucking bongos and some coke. Like I just think he a genius. And so I think that when you take him away from whomever that might have been staring the ship, I think his genius is going to still just be there. I mean, Stevie J has some hits. Yes, he did. Outside of the hitman. All of that's what I'm saying. So I think the Chucky Book of all the niggas was dope. They all had the talent. He was very talented. But Puff did have a unique thing. I think I think that's the point. I think in the Doxon time, they underplayed how that skill says. I was like, oh, he couldn't rap or he could. No, he can't. But like, there's things he can do that nobody else can do. Exactly. That was the first time I heard somebody say, yo, Puff ain't do drugs. Puff was never in the drugs. Right. Yeah, they said to cut it. As he cut. Yeah, that even got him hooked on the bank. Yeah, that was why. After he won. Um, the shit with his wrist. It was like they couldn't tell if it was an attempt or whatever. But the doctor, he got hooked on painkillers after that. And then that's where it just. Damn. Oh, no, don't worry if I write rhymes, I write checks. So your final thoughts on on this. I give it an A. Me, sir. You know, it's a great, great job. Yeah, I want to watch it again. That's how I'm gonna watch it again. I have to watch it. I have to watch it again. I watch it. I'm a wife. So I can watch it before this. So I'm gonna watch it again. But I was like, and I was dreading having to watch it again. The idea of it until I started watching it. Then I was like, oh, I need to see this again to actually catch. Some of the other little stuff. After we're 50 cents, even. Hold up, I'm sorry, Mark, even y'all, y'all talk about. When they jumped homeboy at the MGM in Vegas, I've heard that story. Ninety million times. I heard it like this. Me too. Me too. I heard it like this. Me too. Yeah, never heard it like this. Yeah, I take back a bullet being the same thing. It was a lot of new shit in there for me, but I didn't necessarily keep everything from the last one. They specifically walked you through. This is the man that did this. This is the man's relationship with this person who was Puff's dad. Sprint. They did it. I never, you didn't hear that. Never heard that? Down to a wire in it a month. No, I never heard that. I mean, I've seen all the Pox stuff because we were doing some research on it. So I've seen everything that's been done, but I've never seen it. Every doc had a little thing that was interesting. But what I think this one did was they put all the pieces together in one place. Concise. In a very clean narrative. So you could connect the dots in a way that you couldn't before. That's what I thought made it good. Like I've never seen the dots connected in this way. It made it because the hole was greater than the sum of his parts. Like even though we knew all those things, when you tell a story like that, it's making a case that wasn't made before. Well, you're making a timeline for that. Like I didn't I never heard this shit with him before on the mixtape saying, you know, I put a million dollars on your head. Oh, yeah. That was new to me. I had never heard that piece. You know what I'm saying? The dude, the the crypt dude, D D one or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had never heard that. I heard all the key. Fede shit. I heard all the Orlando shit. I heard all of that before. Well, then you agree what I'm saying? Because he played a role in the MGM shit that I'm talking about. Not the D one thing. Is she knew 97% of the stuff? Yeah, the D one nigga, that that story when he was like, yo, I told them niggas when I walked up on big and they was in LA like, yo, fan, what the fuck y'all doing here? Niggas out here don't play like that. Even if y'all with my protection, you're still y'all still bugging the fuck out. Like I had never heard him and he to me was the most credible nigga up there. That D one dude seemed like he was the most credible nigga. I'm thinking that's the man. Something that somebody's dead. No, no, no, that dude, that dude. Yeah, I kind of agree with that. In terms of the validity. Yeah, like he was the one because he didn't really have no personal vendetta against Puff. Yeah, everyone else had a little bit of everybody else was like, yo, this nigga ain't paying me like I'm tight. I say whatever the fuck you want me to say. Correct. That dude right there was like, yo, nah, we was cool. Then was my niggas and I walked up to the nigga like, yo, y'all niggas bugging the fuck out. Niggas out here don't play like that. I don't know the other part about big. I suppose it's Parmi. I said Parmi. The other half for the dirty of dirty money. I didn't know that. Me either. And she didn't. She she was one of the people they showed where she loved him. She loved him. And she was valid. She still loves him. Still. And just in a very hurtful way was saying, this is funny. A few months ago, I needed him. I needed you. $5,000 or some shit. And he told me, no. So to watch him kind of beg. Yeah. In that moment of desperation, it was a lot of little, even if we not even talking about facts and storytelling. If you just watch closely enough, you'll see some things that that that that nigga was a piece of shit. Absolutely. And he was a selfish motherfucker. I think up until the last minute, like if you watch this shit, when he talking to his lawyer, like he, um, on the phone with the lawyer, he never believed that this shit was happening. It almost seemed like, y'all, I got out of everything that's ever. I was always managing to find a way to get away with this shit. I don't think he took it serious. That ain't what I'm talking about. I'm comfortable with him. I ain't get it from. I ain't necessarily interpreted like that. Uh huh. Um, even here in shorty talk. That she was valid. The girl, uh, uh, Capricorn. Okay. She she was valid to me because they didn't necessarily just rip them down. They told good shit and they told bad shit. And I think that those three people for me really painted a different story than the rest of the people. Like the, um, the girl, she loved that nigga. And she was like, you're the other half of dirty money. I forgot something with the cat. But Kalina. All right. She, she was like, fam, I love you dog. Like I've known you for a decade. I'm losing my kids. I asked you for five grand and you said no. And then she turned around and still did it. Still did it. She turned around and still wrote that letter in his defense. And this is what I was going to say, bro. You can hear him even when he was talking to the ride kid. Puff can talk. Bro, he can talk because he wanted to say something to the ride kid. Like, yo, my nigga stopped threatening me on the phone, but he wasn't even saying it like that. He was like, yo, bro, you taking this somewhere. I don't know. I know your lawyer's got to do whatever I'm going to pay you my nigga. Like be cool. I'm going through some shit. I'm going to give you your money, but you threatening me on the phone. Somebody else was like, nigga, what you going to do? He didn't do that. He's like, yo, bro, we, we, yeah, you know what I'm saying? I could tell that he could talk. Super. That nigga could talk his way out of fucking anything. I could hear it. That nigga was for a shit. He been doing it forever. Yeah. Do y'all believe that he sent flowers to 50 cent? No, I don't think so. I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised. Got it. What do you think? I wouldn't be shocked. He probably did. Right. I wouldn't be surprised. Probably haven't sent over there. Speaking of 50, that's what I was asking. If 50 posted on Twitter afterward, obviously he was celebrating the success of it, but he said, what other people would y'all want me to cover? Is there another doc like this y'all would want to see from somebody else? Done. Not necessarily from him, but done this way. Yeah. I can't tell y'all though. This one. I can't. I'll funny to this. A lot of this shit. I was watching in the pub. Doc made me think of this other person that something should come up. I'm not something. Okay. Is anybody we can say on the show? No, we wouldn't do that. That would be irresponsible. And we don't want to go through what Milagro just went through. I'm keeping my 59,000. I don't give a fuck. I'm keeping my shit. Let me think. Let me think. Let me think though. That's interesting. Then you can't answer it without being a rat. Yeah. I think you can because I think there's some things that are just so public that you just want more info on. Like, for example, death row records or Shugnaik. I thought Shugnaik. I would want to see a four part doc on that. I mean, he's already in jail. I'm not trying to get. I want to see that type of big budget shit about bullshit like Adam 22. I want to see it in a parking lot. Let me shut up because I got the most info I did. It's funny. I think the doc was well put together. So it don't necessarily have to be something negative. If it's something informative, yeah, I would I would love it, but the negative shit I could do without anybody you want to see one on in particular. Yeah. No, not off the top of my head. Cool. And there you have it. Good talk. Indeed. Great talk. All right, it's time for my favorite part of the show. Prize. Space. All right, this episode is brought to you by prize picks. You and I make decisions every day. But on prize picks, being right can get you paid. So don't miss out on any of the excitement this sports season on prize picks. Whether you're a football fan, a basketball fan or a fan of both, such as myself, it always feels good to be right. Prize picks is really easy and simple to play. 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They ain't playing the wind. They just playing to make AJ Brown happy. I know I was playing against him in fantasy. The nigga that had him was two and 10 and whooped up on me. Uh, let's go with Devon A chain. That's another one of ish man. Yeah. For more than 113 rushing and receiving yards. We've got Devonte Adams for more than 50 and a half receiving yards. He definitely going to get a tug. He's the red zone running. Yeah. He's the red zone only option at this point. And we got Shadoor Sanders for more than 160 passing yards. Don't forget if you download the app. Write this very second and use promo code JBP. You get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup only on prize picks where it's good to be right. I want to shout out to them 520 boys. Oh, yeah, got you. Got you. I want to shout out to them club 520 boys. Yes, sir. Teebe handing the guys ink to deal with Adidas. Let me hit the round of applause because this is groundbreaking. This is big. We love to see podcasters just make a make a way. For sure. Make a way. They did that. It makes all the sense in the world. Hey, more applause than that guy. Don't cut off the applause for the 520 boys so fast. It just makes all the sense in the world extremely happy for those guys. They continue to just break ground and find new ways of doing things. I'm extremely proud of them. Extremely happy for them. I saw the commercial they did. It looks great. It was fire. Oh, it was fire. Yeah, it looks great. It was fire. No, it was great. Derek Rolls called up. Who else called up? James Harden. James Harden called up. It was good. You love to see this. Congratulations. Congratulations to not only Adidas, but the club 520 boys. Y'all deserve it. You deserve it. Brandy and Beyonce. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's different. You almost went to the old one. Yeah, yeah, I know right. Brandy and Beyonce. There's a lot of talk about Beyonce going to the boy's mind concert and not speaking to Brandy. I only know about this because of Ray J. I feel like Ray J has been in the news entirely too much in the last three to four weeks. But fuck it. We here. I never thought about this before. Brandy and Beyonce not speaking to each other. Is do we have any reason to think it's a beef other than Ray J saying like for those that don't know. Y'all saw the Ray J video, right? When he's like pleading to Beyonce. Like we love y'all. We respect you and Jay. Why don't y'all come? When y'all come to all these shows, why don't y'all come and speak to us? Don't just speak to Monica kind of thing. I'm like, was it a us thing? Yeah, he definitely said us. Because my whole thought was, hey, Ray J, maybe this isn't about Beyonce. You're brandy and all. Maybe what you're doing right now might be the reason why they don't stop. I mean, Monica took his phone in the middle of the show the other night. Why? That was hilarious because all the bullshit starts from Ray J having a phone. So he was at the show, Monica saw him, said, give me that phone. Playfully, of course, she gave it back, but I feel Monica. And you Monica know now. But Monica know. I can't say how she know, but Monica know. She know. So maybe it ain't a beef. Yeah, I don't think so. I just might be moving through the stadium not stopping. I'm. All right. It's a beef stop. Hold on. I asked him. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. What's going on? It's her show. Right. It's Brandy Monica, the boy's mind tour. I'm here to see my sister, Kelly. OK. OK. Now we're going to get in the show etiquette. Yeah. It's what I'm saying. You know what this is. And you stopped this. So you stopped it so hard. You stopped to saw Monica. You stopped until everybody. He said that. I ain't have said that. Every single person. Beyonce has some pictures. Let's take a look. Yeah. So now it's it looks like something going on. I saw everybody but you. You know, and if you think hard enough, I mean, the big, big celebs will never say. But if you think about them hard enough, the people that they're never associated with, any of the people that's even associated with the people, if they're never associated with them, I assume that something's going on. And I ain't seen Brandy. I mean, I've seen Brandy and Beyonce. And nothing. And anything for over 20 years. 30 years. It's a good point. I hadn't thought about it until this. Yeah. Same. Same. And I mean, I heard Lauren from the Breakfast Club say that she did some digging to find out if this is true, if this is not true. And she says it's true. I'm getting this from her. So if it's wrong, kill her. But she also says that she hears some of the reasoning behind it is just them both coming up, coming up, coming up in the music business, being those girls. Brandy was the girl. Then Beyonce came and we know how that story went. So yeah, I got a little bit. I don't fuck with you. And then once you don't fuck with somebody and then they skyrocket, or the other way, you don't fuck with somebody and you skyrocket. But it depends. Did you do something during that? I don't fuck with you face. You get what I'm saying? Like if it's just, you over there, I'm over here. That's one thing. But if this person's skyrocketing and you throwing some shade, you might deny something or you try to use whatever influence you had. Like, you know what I'm saying? Brandy Norwood is not publicly throwing shade at nobody. I'm not saying that publicly. I'm saying nothing about publicly. I'm just saying we would never know. We would have no idea. Cause I'm just like, this many years later, something had to have happened. It ain't just, we were both on the rise. Either one of us was hired in the other and hated on the other one in some way. Something had to have just happened. It ain't just we both were on the client. If I'm just talking shit, which I do for you. Of course. Well, Brandy was on scorching hot. Way before Beyonce. Yeah, and Brandy come from that Whitney school. She comes from that. The Whitney, who's the other one? The older one. My right, Gary? No, no, who's Whitney's fucking OG? Anyway, she come from the school. A D.S.T.A.W. I'm a D.S.O. Yeah, all that Diva time. Get this fucking talent, this bitch away from me. I'm not saying Brandy said that, but I can see a world where if you Brandy during the I Wanna Be Down, it's 96 Moesha. Who's who, destiny who? I disagree with you, I guess. I think that it could just be a come up thing just because women are always pitched against each other. So even if you don't have an issue with her, it's gonna be an article about it. It's gonna be on MTB, T.J.M.s. It's always alluded to. I think it's very hard not to fall into that shit. And then I don't even know if I would say the fans, cause without social media, I don't know how much impact the fans have on those kind of situations. But for sure, media, when you back then, you doing a lineup of interviews all day and people keep constantly saying shit about you. What better way to put that to bed if I'm at your show? I know what people are saying. And ain't never been no thing between us. But that's what I'm saying. I think what I'm saying is that- From one top of the moon, ain't nothing going to bed. No, or- No, I'm not weird. What I'm saying is that the damage is done then and now we don't fuck with each other. Nothing happened, but we too far gone because we was always pitched against each other. That's what I'm saying. So we don't speak now because of the build up before. A small comment in the interview? Yeah. Oh. It may be some grievance to that. It could be. It could be something. Cause they put Beyonce against everybody. It was a shanty, it was a Carrie Hillson. I remember the Carrie Hillson shit. No dog. Women in the world, they had tried to compete with her at one point or another. Of course. Help me think through this though. So if there was an issue, Brandy and Beyonce would know about it. Sure. It's unlikely that one of them would know and the other one wouldn't, right? Sure. So if Brandy knows about it, then Ray J would know about it. Is it a world where Brandy has a beef with Beyonce that Ray J don't know about? Yes. See, I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. That's her best friend. No, it depends on how big the beef is. One. And Brandy might not have been just out here publicizing the beef. That could be Ray J. He's talking about talking about Ray J. No, he is. Brother. Not publicizing anything. Ray J knows. Ray J would know. Ray J knows. And Ray J knows. Hold up, there was a third step to that. So if Ray J, if we assume if Ray J knows, then why would Ray J publicize it? Cause he seems sincere, even though he's doing Ray J's. Repeat that question. 10 times. 10 times. I got, let me say it different. He seemed. But fuddle. Yeah, like I really, why ain't y'all fucking with it? He seems sincere. Like I love y'all. He said we, he kept using the we. I feel like if his sister had a beef with Beyonce, he wouldn't be up there saying, we love you, why aren't you speaking to us? Unless that was all the wrong. If Beyonce was Amory, he wouldn't have been talking like that. He talked, he spoke like that out of respect. But what he also was saying was some of the same things that he was saying to Mario, which is we the Norwoods, nigga, we ain't chump. Like, you know us. Come speak to us. We know you, we came up, you know, and you're at this show. And that's some of the difficulty we'd have in Kelly Rowland on your show. Ah. I'm not gonna lie to you. That is some of the difficulty. Open things up a little bit. I said, I said that when I came in here after I watched the show, I'd say Kelly Rowland with all of those records and how she was looking and how she was dressed. And I totally didn't even think about her network of people coming to this show. And I'm the headliner. No, no, you're not gonna have Sammy Davis Jr. backstage. He don't take a picture with me. You got fucking, you got the Obama, Stevie Wonder's here. All Obama's. No, no, that ain't gonna be happening. And none of them is talking to me. I'm gonna feel the way. You're gonna feel the way. That's valid. You're gonna feel the way, dog. Yeah, you are. They taking pictures with Patty LaBelle, Beyonce, Brandy and no, I wanna be included. I mean, not Brandy. If I'm Brandy, I wanna be included in that. Yep, I do. You wanna be down? See what you did there. See what you did there. Yeah, I did. She might've just been sitting up in her room though. Ah! Missed the picture. And Beyonce's not her best friend. Y'all should keep this going. No, no, no, no. This is groundbreaking stuff. But this shit is left, Ray J broke a hundred. Oh, you took mine! Let's go! Conata, you took mine. Oh, we're running out of titles, people. Demona, if you go do your show in Tacoma, Washington this weekend, if you ain't got tickets. Sevens. If you go do your show, and one of the opening comedians is tight with Chapella and them. And Chapelle come in, smoke a cig, talk to everybody backstage, take pictures to everybody but Demona. Oh my God. That's a problem. Oh my God. I'm with her though, it's a problem. I'm trying to think of this as a show. Your button show. I'm gonna find you at SOB. Yeah. Yeah. The other office space over there. Yeah, that's crazy. When you think about it in that way, that's crazy. Especially because, you know R&B, she had the top of it, they was the top of comedy. You would wanna, I mean, I was just polite to say, what's up? And the video looks shady. The video looks like security dude saying, make way, make way, Brandy, coming through. I never seen Beyonce move so fast that I get in the cut and hide. Now I'm not saying that she was hiding. She could've just been listening to the security and moving out the way. Being polite. Fair. Fair. I agree with you, Freeze. Okay. Beyonce's listening to the security moving out the way. She might be polite, Freeze. I know she's polite. Compliant. I'm sure not for somebody sitting right up to Beyonce phone. Y'all sleeping on the phone. I know she's polite. She's very polite. I see what happened when Beyonce walked down the hallway. I've seen it. Nobody, but her's the security. What happened? What happened? What happened when Beyonce walked down the hallway? They cleared the whole shit out. Everybody, yo, Beyonce's coming. What you did? All y'all move. They, what you mean they? Was you in the hallway? Yeah, until they said, yo, all y'all move, Beyonce is walking, everybody move. And you moved? You got damn right. Julie, it's biggest shit. Freeze. They got a fucking private militia walking them down there. Yeah, we all moved. But how fast did you move? It's like, did you take your time and leave? He scurried. Everybody got their ass out the way. This is all, everybody got their ass out the way. They got a fucking, that little Russian militia dude. And I just feel like they would have featured together on some type of song somewhere. Do you think so? It makes too much sense. That's possible. I need to know what people beef is about though, before I jump in and pick a side. I need to know what to be. I love you. When I love both of y'all too much, I need to hear the particulars on the matter. Recently, I forgot maybe it was TMZ, somebody came out and was like, we finally found out the reason behind the salange kick Jay-Z in the elevator. And that's because he was flirting with whatever the girl was in the met, wherever they was at. And I'm like, okay, well then that was overblown. This is the real reason. That's what happened. Well, we still got two classic albums, but now they don't hit the same. Yeah. If that's the reason, we gotta jump in. Oh yeah, eliminated in the carters. Yeah. That's probably the most, that's probably the most sad. Oh, that was ill. Yeah. What? You gotta let that go, bro. He got two classic albums. It's the worst take, it's one of your worst takes. He has a lot of bad. What's one of his worst takes? He doesn't like 444. I don't love that album either. I don't like 444 neither. We ain't gotta do it. We beat it in to the run. Ish, what did you do for Jay-Z's birthday the other day? You know he's celebrating Jay-Z's birthday before his. Yeah, I know, that's what I'm asking him. What'd you do on the floor? What'd you do? You make somebody or something? The fact that y'all know it was his birthday speaks more about y'all than me. He has a song to do too. You did not know that December 4th was Jay-Z's birthday. He has a song. Yeah, but I'm not thinking about it on December 4th. If y'all didn't say that to me, I would. Is that in your calendar? At any point yesterday did you think about it? I mean, the song starts with his mom saying, December 4th was Jay-Z's birthday. December 4th was Shawn's birthday. Yeah. Yo, what did you do on the 4th though? Don't interrogate us. I don't even know. Don't reverse our joke. I don't know. We ain't got a little 92. We joking on you. We ain't got a little 92. You ain't got a little 92, right? What is a 92? You ain't got a 92 for. He wouldn't got the sneakers. 92 bricks, you know, just on a whole. Oh shit. Y'all niggas just. I tell him, he sure fans me. I have two bricks and he's gone. Oh my God, stop it, Joe. That would be the end of our friendship. I would send him up. I would send him back. Hey, yo, if you have it, don't tell me. He's the guy. He's the snitch guy. I'm telling you don't. But if you have it, don't tell me. He's been playing about snitching. That's the snitch guy. He ain't even in trouble, right? He's corner with. Nobody in this corner with rat. This whole corner is not telling. I ain't writing. I think you was open with our call of contact, Rob. I'm not, no, right? I'm not doing shit with y'all. That's what gives me the more than that bullshit. You want to avoid it so you don't have to tell me you don't know shit. But we in the car, I see y'all got 92 You have a problem. You better tell them about your 92. You better just get out of the car. I'm not, that is what would happen, truthfully. In real life. I'm not getting that car. If somebody else tell me it's boy 92 brick, I tell you. He ain't even got to be the one. If I hear it, if you just hear it, you gone. I'm telling you, you better keep it clean. That is crazy, bro. But they not even questioning it. Live the straight and narrow. He's doing this live straight and narrow. For the love of the game. This is where love of the game is crazy. Put it into this bro man. Yeah. That is crazy, sir. Now y'all got to argue over jail. 15 minute calls. He was looking at the Torre kid with admiration. I was looking at who? You got to talk. I'm cool. Who was looking at? My man. What's his name? Torre. The dude that's writing the report, the sport reporter. Pablo. Pablo. Pablo. Pablo. Because there is a Torre. Yeah, not that Torre. He got to smoke with Pablo. This was a feeling that shit. He ain't like that shit. Tight. He ain't like that shit. Wait, are we serious? That's what we're watching. You could tell when it was happening, but I got to really see, because I was over there. I'm like, oh, this was tight. I like this nigga. This was mad. He said, I'm like, so when you think about them possibly going away or something, do you? I'm like, no, he don't give a fuck. He don't care. He just caught him a snitch. Just now I'm a rap bastard. This did not like that shit. I wasn't going to say that, but yeah. What's that? No, he did. I used to say, oh, here, I'm going to go say. But why you take that approach like you still gangbanging on in the streets? It's not the point. That's not the point. It has nothing to do with that. He's standing up principle. Yo, dog, you come. Is that what you're supposed to do with him? No, no, no, no, no, no. This don't have nothing to do with street shit. Break it down. Somebody doing something. With your teeth. That don't affect you. Somebody doing something that don't affect you, don't have no bearing on your life, none of that. And you start a crusade to bring that person down. I think that's corny. See, that's what we different a little, just a little bit. And I told Mark this, I think do got a call from another one of them billionaires, a sikdemonum, which is the type of games that they play amongst each other. He was the weapon. So you go, yo, you're going to work it. Just in case the audience missed it, just in case the audience missed it, we talking about public stories interview here, where he did an investigative journalism project, investigating the LA Clippers, allegedly coloring outside the lines and getting Kauai Leonard on stuff outside the salary cap. I gotta go watch it again now, that you're all saying ish hated. Oh, no, he ain't like that. I'm pretty sure Erickson didn't put his face on camera. When you're sitting in it, when you're sitting there, I don't think you can catch it, but being over there, you can see it. Oh, look at this, that's the thing. You got to look at it. It's hard not to look at it. Now, not for me. Okay. You know, not for me. Beauty's beauty, man. Oh, here. You know what I mean? It's universal. It's a monopoly game, I was saying. You welcome. Now, y'all sisters. We've been brothers. No, thanks, my sister. Yo, y'all go too hard last week. Somebody said, we were saying something. That's woman to woman. That was you. Talking about when we talking, woman to woman. Y'all are crazy. Y'all that boy was funny. Let's stay in beef land. Let's stay in beef land. Who else is beefing? Who else is beefing? Snooping Daz. We got Daz and Snoop beefing. Oh, this evergreen. Yeah. Every couple months, Daz comes out with another, what was the same beef over and over and over. Claiming Snoop, Boyd Daffro, and owes him a bunch of money. This is just an ongoing thing. I don't understand it from Daz's point of view, just because Snoop Boyd Daffro and, I think it was 22, if I'm not mistaken. Thank you. First thing they did was a Dog Pound album. Right. Did an East Side's album. Like, did things, went back to the people who... Found it? Yeah, been there from the rip. Got y'all torn, the whole shit. And you're beefing with him. Like, I don't understand that. It looks like somebody tried to help you out, but you might've did that out of desperation. Okay. That's also Snoop Daffro prior to Snoop. Getting him in one of his money. I'm just addressing your original thing. So it's like somebody saying, I remember when Puff and them did the reunion tour. Mace was on the reunion tour. But that negate the fact that Puff owed Mace money. Well, there's one piece there. Puff owned Bad Boy from the 90s. So you're beefing over your back catalog money that Snoop did not own that label. We're not talking about that. I'm just saying that we're talking about the principle of you complaining, but you still went on tour with this man. So the two things could be true. Somebody might've needed the money or they went on tour for whatever reason. That don't mean it wouldn't negate the fact that they might still be owed some proceeds. Yeah? I agree. Correct. But again, I'm speaking to... Wasn't the Dawn Chick on Puff's love album? Yeah, dirty. Shit, money gets funny, boy. You know what I'm saying? And that's what he was saying. Like, yo, dawg, you just was on my album. Now, magically, we... And that might've been over some financial shit. You never know what's going on out here, niggas. I agree with that. This is a little different. Again, like I said, Daz's beef, I've been reading into this, is old shit that he's old, which was prior to Snoop owning Death Row. It's like your beef... I don't get how your beef is so transferred. Yeah, I was just saying, if you buy a company... That's not how business works. Yeah, if you buy a company, you and me. You inherit all of the debt, as well as the revenues to that particular company. Because who else is he gonna go to? You know what I mean? The niggas going, chugs waiting on breakfast. Niggas, when Netflix just bought HBO, they incurred HBO's assets as well as they debt. It don't go away because you got acquired by somebody. Understandable. Without saying too much, I spoke to some folks and... You got no ISIS death row. I know. That's true. We forgot ISIS. Say what you want. ISIS death row. I am not death row. Played that sexy red Snoop record and gave it away. That's when we learned ISIS was death row. Like he ain't listening to me. I knew that before. I still like that song. That's what I like about it. Yeah, I heard it in the club. Anyway, yes. This one went back to Deco. Shut up. Went back to club Deco to hear a little something. What? They can just say shit. They can just say to piss myself. Yeah, yeah. I heard it in the club. I did. You scurry when Beyonce... Right here telling you. I'm on a new joke. I'm on a hoax with you. You scurried when Beyonce walked out the hallway. You would have too. I mean, I wouldn't have been there. You actually used outside in the car. Oh, sleep. Yeah. Sleep. You was outside sleeping in the car. That's when all y'all was dick riding them, nigga. I'm like, yo, I'll go ahead. I'll be sleep. That's when they was dick riding Beyonce. Oh, where we going next? Where we going next? I'm A.R.B. in the bourbon, my nigga. Where was y'all that? It was some spot uptown. It was like a little speakeasy. It was a piece of joint in the front with a door that opened and took it to a club. So everybody's lined up in the hallway going into the club part in the back. And then they just came up, yo, Beyonce and Hope is walking in. Everybody gotta move. It was like 15, 20 people, a little skinny hallway. It was like, yo, Beyonce and Hope is walking in. Clear this shit up. It gets with Joe, is that? Sweet. Yeah, cool. Knocked out. Give a fuck about this club. Shit, nigga. Get me outta here. Tired. You checking autograph? No. I got my Hope autograph years ago. No, we talking about Beyonce. No. No. You got Beyonce autograph? You have a Hope autograph? What do you sign this? Stefan Marbury, Jersey, actually. Why your mouth open like this? Hope and Marbury. Your first thing I thought was like, when niggas get them, do y'all walk around with the sharpie? Like, you know you going to catch the person? No. This was the real first thing you thought. Buh. Sure. The more I test. Tell me the truth. That's the truth there. Ice has an autograph book. Mona. What do you mean? Mona. He has a book filled up with all the autographs he's having. He got Harry Potter. I don't have a script book. No, I don't have a script book. It's nothing wrong with you. Where's your autograph? Since I had a Marbury, Jersey, because we was in the back. This ain't helping. I don't know. You should talk to him. Don't tell it. All right, then I won't tell it. Oh, my god. No, keep talking. Please tell it. You have this. No, no, no, no. Yes, he did. He had a P.O. on it. Let me tell you. I'll talk to you, because these niggas talk to me. They're immature. Go ahead. Chris Gatlin's father took a couple of us to the game. OK. He dropped a name. What? He worked at? He was the vice president at our high school. OK. And he took a couple kids to the school, to the game. Back when they was playing, when the next played in the metal lands. We're there. He was like, yo, we take y'all in the back. So I bought a Marbury, Jersey, because I wanted to get Marbury to sign it. And then while, and then Hove is walking by. I'm like, oh, shit, yo, sign this too, please? He signed it. I don't let nobody take me in the back. OK. You're just doing too much. Yeah, you do yours right out in the public. You're doing too much. That's right. But where do you have that autograph? I don't even know where it's at now. We're on the switch. Wow. Did you like frame it or anything? Did he sign Jay-Z or Sean Carter? Jay-Z. He signed Jay-Z. All right. A couple of my people have my signature tatted on them. Oh, shit. Did you do it with them? Yeah. Did you write it? They asked me, can you shut up? They asked me, can you sign this for tattoo? And they got tattoos. Yeah. Like, three. I'm saying, did you sign them and then they got a tattoo? Yeah. But to me, greet, I signed my name. And then they went to the corner. Your signature is consistent? Oh, it's ugly as shit. The tattoo's all ugly. It's consistent, though. No, but is it the same thing? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. You signed the Mona? I just did hashtag this. I did what's on my arm. Yeah. Hashtag the acronym. You got your own signature here? No, nigga. I have my Instagram name. Parks. Because don't come right close too long. Wait. Are you OK? You don't got your button tag on you? You just got the acronym? Hold on, so you just got D-C-M-W-U. I got hashtag these. I don't like a hard query laughing. You don't have this hard to talk about hating God. You got your Instagram name tattooed. I tried to set this up for you earlier with the tattoos. I missed it earlier. Oh, with the pound sign. That used to be on the rotary phone. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck with these niggas thinking about my tattoo. I'm not mad. I like it. Self promotion. So you got your filly? I just got that. I had to get it darkened. Yeah, because it was faded. I thought that was Hannah. Like, you really went and put that. I sure did. I thought you just had that same thought we all have when we go to fucking FDM Square or something. I've seen a lot of your tattoos, Joe. So don't do that. I've seen a lot of your tattoos. My tattoos, to me, even look a fucking absolute mess. I don't encourage anybody. I was going to ask you, are you in your post-tattoo phase? Like, you never go get another one? I don't get no damn tattoo. And he's tatted, Joe. We got no tattoos. He really do that. I ain't gonna get another tattoo. How about the rest of y'all? They ain't got none. There's one place. This is a... I assumed you did. No tattoo. Hey, Antoine. No tattoo. I figured you didn't. Just do it, bro. This is one place. It's against my religion. There's still room left. Parks, you no tattoo neither, man. No, no tattoo. And the body is a temple. I know it's just getting a tattoo. I'm so curious of people that don't have tattoos. I just told you the body is a temple. Oh, no, I heard... Ice couldn't get no tattoos and come in his house and come in his mama's house. Oh. I should have said I would have been able to. My brother sat there and told y'all how I could do whatever I wanted. He couldn't. You didn't, though. I didn't want any tattoos, Joe. There was nothing I loved enough that I wanted on me permanently. Why the fuck did you hand over rules in your brother had rules? Because I was more trustworthy. You got different fathers. There's another word for that. Because you said the father, you like the moose. Trust me. The father of the Spanish child support. You can get another fruit snack. You an idiot, y'all. You can get another fruit snack. Yes, I don't even want to get into it about the favorite. Every time I talk about that, people are stiffen up because your parents had favorite kids. Some of y'all are the only kid and you still ain't the favorite. That's okay. I was the favorite. But parents have favorites. There's no way you got a couple of these motherfuckers and you don't like one of them a little more than other ones. Especially one always hollering and screaming and acting stupid. It's like they ain't your favorite. He got in trouble all the time. He was always doing shit. Was he the favorite though? No, he's the favorite. Because everybody got in trouble when he was the favorite. I was the favorite. I was the favorite. It's been around my family. I'm the favorite. You still the favorite. Clear cut. To this day. It's your favorite? He's old, you're right? He's the only child. Oh, I'm asking my family though. He gotta drive, take a drive, see. It's been a little while. Throw that, throw it. Yeah, why? You're the favorite, they gave you the Cherokee, right? It was a toy on a saw. Ain't you the one that got the grand Jeep Cherokee? They left it to you. Amen. Are you the favorite? My mom, when I ask her, because I ask, she says I'm the favorite for six months and he the favorite for six months. Oh, that's so fair. She tells her friends the truth. No, she don't. Yeah, she tells them the truth. Yeah. My mom don't play about her kids. My favorite, my favorite. Even if somebody tell her who the favorite is, she's slapped that shit right down. She don't play about her kids. She don't let me tell her who the favorite is. I believe you. Yeah, no, she. Do you have a favorite? Do I have a favorite? Depends on the moment. I do. Depends on the moment. You got a favorite? Fuckin' right. And they know it, I ain't a hide it. Fuck it, don't mean to aspire to be like him. Oh, shit. Yeah, Smush is my favorite, y'all. Rashad. What makes him a favorite? He's the individual, he's himself. He doesn't like rap music. He's like a little Republican. He got that on his own, you know what I mean? He's very funny, he's witty, and he loves this shit out of me. He the only boy? No, but he loves this shit out of me though. He's very protective. Has he always been your favorite, because those are like personality traits. From Nick Gate. But he was funny from the door though. He had a lot of personality from the door. Yeah, so. The door being. Like from the beginning from the first game. Oh, the door being his cat. That was funny for him. Yeah, no, I have a favorite though. It ain't a secret neither. Don't need to earn my love. Sounds. Mark, you have a favorite? Um, no. No. Cat. You know political Pauline. Mark got a favorite, at least favorite. That's what he said a little while ago. He got a Danny right here, that guy got a what? He got a here, I want you to know. He got a favorite, at least favorite. Yes. No. No. No. Leave it. You have a favorite? I can't have a favorite, only got one. That's biologically mine. Yeah, so you can't. Right, that's you. You couldn't have a favorite. Yeah, it don't make sense. Yeah. Or you could. Or you can't. No, you can't. You can't have a favorite. You can't have a favorite. You cannot. I know. You can answer any reason. I know. You can't have a favorite. I know. That's where the joke stops. That's not the thing. I know and they know. That's a problem. Yeah. We not. But yeah, I think people don't realize that. Exactly, we're the fuck on. You're the fuck. You don't get it. Exactly. She does shit like Beyonce walking in here. Move it. Clear out the fact. Ice ain't fucking around. Boundaries. I respect that. My kids be so bad sometimes. I be in the house like, man, I'm pretty cool. Man, I'm my favorite. These two little motherfuckers. A horror show. That's how I feel. I get to kick out of my kids though. My kids funny. Yeah, I really don't have a favorite. But I think about it. I like different things about each one. And it depends on the mood I'm in. That's a good answer. And yeah. It's diplomatic. It's not true. It depends on the mood I'm in. Mark, ask. Yeah. I don't have a least favorite. I'll say that. Gee, thanks. I think he does. I don't have a least favorite. Because I have such a different relationship to each one. They didn't all grow up in the same house. They didn't all come around the same time. So that's what's so everyone is different. That's true. I got to know my favorite song about my boys. That nigga right there, when he put that bull, she's Huffington Post boy from... How does she talk about it? You know, you thought the kind of boys, you could do that, you could do like phone sex or you could do the tapes that just didn't go to sleep. Like motivational tapes. To go to sleep? Or whatever. He's been listening to motivational tapes to go to sleep, but he could do that though. Wait, so... Like, you are the best. I'm always sharing some shit I shouldn't be sharing. So I'm just gonna give a little bit. My girl's saying. In one of the times she went in my phone, I guess there was a time when there was a voice note. She said, and your stupid ass bitches love your voice. They, every voice note they said is, oh, your boy, here you have goofy ass go leaning into my... You got a nice voice. Leaning in with your dumb ass. You put that extra deep one in. Yeah, like a suck ass singer. Leni Green. That's quite a song. Yeah, you know how that thos voice, like the project was this voice. I don't know if it's music shit, but yeah. Oh, man. No, yeah, you know. I think it was inflection. What else? What else we got? I'm feeling bad for Chris Paul. Yeah, yeah. They did him dirty. That was nasty. That was nasty. Maybe, but... Maybe? Yeah, maybe, but I feel, cause I feel like this more to the story. I'm hearing this more to the story. And it's almost always more to the story. When some shit happens, it don't make sense. It's usually cause you don't have enough information. That's my general rule of thumb in life. But I still didn't like the way this went. I don't. Well, what can you tell us about what you heard? Well, let me tell the audience the story first. Chris Paul was basically effectively waved from the LA Clippers and what was his farewell season. At like 4 a.m. At like 4 a.m. he said he got on a road trip. On a road trip. We saw, cause he posted on social media, I was just told to stay home or I was sent home. Now, according to Bleacher Report and some other places, you know, one of the big execs from the Clippers did fly out to talk to him about it. But ultimately he was told to not return to the team. This was his last season and I think that's important. Lawrence Frank. Lawrence Frank. Lawrence Frank said he'll take the blame for it, which means that it ain't him. Right, he's taking the fall for it, exactly. Yeah. And they're saying that, you know, and I'd love to hear what you heard, but what they're also saying is he was around and they're just trying to hold people accountable. Some of the players, some of the front office members, that's where I get confused a little bit because I don't know how much holding people accountable I'd be doing in my retirement season. That's who he is, bro. Yeah, I was gonna say, that's him. That's who he is, bro. Yeah, but sometimes you don't wanna hear that shit from someone who's not really that... Anymore. He's not that anymore. But that's a problem. And you gotta know when to not be what you are. Yeah. You have to know when to not be what you are. This is your last season. Okay, okay. You requested, hey, I wanna end it here with my love city history. This is where I wanna be. Go out there, let us salute you. Let the crowd wave, call it a day. Melanin, bro. Especially as a team player, like you're a point guard, like a notorious team player. No, the point guard is the spokesman for the team that holds everybody accountable. Sometimes. That's your role. The starting point guard anyway. Which I want him to do though. Like y'all confusing. Yeah, y'all sound crazy. Yo, I don't have a chip. I think that this team has enough talent for me to get to the chip, which they do. And y'all niggas out here? No, they don't. Yes, they do. No, they don't. You think the Los Angeles Clippers have enough talent? Yes. Do you think they could get past the nuggets? I mean, the thunder? Yes. No, you don't. You think the LA Clippers can get past the thunder? Who left their record right there? Listen to what I'm saying before this flips into some stupid shit. I think they have enough talent to potentially beat any team in seven games if they all on the same page. Yeah, I don't see that. Is your can name six players from the Clippers? Who can name six players from the Clippers? You go. Why am I going to put you to the test? What's the talent you see on the Clippers? Clippers are six and 60. Kawhi is still Kawhi. I think that he's not still Kawhi, but he Kawhi can get you 30 points on any night. Yeah, but just not every night he plays. Not every night, right? Yeah. I think James Hardness, James Hardness. He's not. And that's an old person. Listen to what I'm saying. I'm not saying he's going to get you 50. I think he's still good. They got arguably the top three center in the NBA, arguably. So I think that they have enough talent with the role players and all of that stuff with those three guys to win some games. I think it was last year. Last year they was good. Last year toward the end of the season, they started kicking ass. And I know the season just started. They're in 13th place in the West Coast. They're not a good team. They're going nowhere fast. And the team that they traded SGA to has their draft pick this year. So if you're... That whole shit is a dumpster fire and a dumpster fuck right now. What I'm saying is... I'm not even having the time to argue with you. Look, that's what I'm saying. Based on, yeah, the organization is some bullshit. They have been bullshit for a decade. You come back here and you like yo fam, I've been on teams. Chris Paul took a team that was worse than the Clippers to the playoffs in OKC. That team wasn't shit. He took them niggas... I don't remember that team. Yeah, he took them niggas to the playoffs. So he looking at like yo fam, I've done more and got more out of less. Y'all is y'all effort, is y'all this, is y'all that. And he feels like he can speak to that based on I'm Chris Paul. He's wrong. That's a matter of opinion. I don't think he's wrong. That's not a matter of opinion. I don't think so either. They said, whoa. Yeah, that's what I was about to say. So you're saying that should. He should be able to do that. Yeah, absolutely. He can't because he's not home. But I think you think he should. I think if you're a legend and you're a vet, you should be able to speak out even if you're not that person anymore. When Gary Payton goes to Miami, the year they won the championship, in fact, he's still a vet and he's still Gary Payton. You should be able to say some shit. If you shat, I don't give a fuck if you're the Cleveland Cavaliers shat. You should be able to say something. You should be able to talk some shit. I agree. But. But. To a point. That's where I'm going. And Chris Paul, and I've been hearing this for over a decade. He's a dick, they said. I wouldn't go say that. They say he's a dick. But he wears on people. I'll say that. Team teammates say that he wears on people. Hard to get along with. He's hard to get along with. And so if you are, I remember when Allen Iverson was late to practice every day for his whole career. But when he came back to Philadelphia last time and he lost his first step, suddenly being late to practice was a bigger deal. Yeah, now it means. Because you're not right. Chris Paul's always worn on teammates. But now that you're not the guy that can give you 20 and 10 every night. They don't want to hear that shit. And I think from what I've heard from some players in the league this week is that there was a significant tension between him and Tyron Lew that had grown over the course of the year. And so Tyron Lew didn't want him back. Makes sense. Also what I'll say, maybe even unfairly, because I didn't get this from nowhere. But when the news broke, the first person I thought of was James Arden. Yeah, I did. Because you have a repeat teammate on your team that was with you in Houston, where you also kind of got the shaft. They go off. So that's not new. For the last decade, they've been saying he's hard to get along with. He demands excellence, all that other shit. They was like, yo, they're not even sure when they start talking about the Laker trade. If him and Kobe were the butt heads, or if they would have just been thick as thieves, because they both approached the game with this intensity, that's insane. Also with NBA teams, the bad ones specifically, when they're losing, trust you, me, that somebody in the front office is tasked with figuring out why they're losing the personnel, the plays, the coach. So if I'm in the middle of a losing season, I'm not going nowhere. Pablo Torej is outed my man. He can't even plant the trees no more. Fucking James Hardness carrying this. Norman Powell is in Miami looking like every bit of that. Every bit of that dude. The last thing I want if I'm in the front office is legendary Chris Paul coming back here, telling me all the ways that we're fucking up. And then bringing that in the locker room, telling that to some of the players, fucking with the level of enthusiasm and effort you need in there. Yeah, you don't want that. And you have to feel like the Clippers know who Chris Paul is. So they know the backlash that was going to happen. They know that they was going to get killed for this, and they did it anyway. So I mean, I think you might be giving too much credit there. And I think you might be. Everything that's common since 14 to no, the Clippers seem to do the opposite. And I think you might have it wrong. They might have bought him there to be the veteran spark on the team to motivate these niggas and hold them accountable. That's a possibility. I'm sure that's part of it. Especially if you think you can win. You go get veteran people in your locker room to kind of corral the younger troops. But how many of them do you need if you got Kauai Leonard and James Harden? Kauai Leonard, don't talk. He not vocal. James Harden might not be the most vocal leader. And James Harden might not talk neither. If it's a strip club in the city we playing in. You know what I'm saying? So you got to get PJ Tucker, those type of dudes to kind of corral the troops. Right. I'm split in this. On one hand, I think no matter what Chris Paul does, you don't do that to him. I feel like Chris is another way to do it. Tell it, say he's injured or something. You know what I mean? There's a better way to do it. Yeah, that's nasty. That was nasty. Time out. They might have tried to do that. He's the one that took it to Twitter. Well, like they might have came out with an official report that he pulled a hand me. He's out for. But he wouldn't have gone to Twitter if they were working together to come up with something. You tell me in the middle of the night, yo, yo, dogs. You sending you home? What's up with that? It's a way to even do that part. It's a way to do that. Maybe the next day, maybe we wait till we get back and we put you on the team. So you're saying that was spiteful? That shit was nasty. It was a purpose, though. It's supposed to be. That shit was nasty. I still think there's some information missing. Well, it's definitely information missing. If I'm in the front office, I might not even like his retirement announcement. I just think the front office, they're the only people that can look at this from a different point of view. And they might have had a bad taste from the joke or something. One thing that I'm excited about for Chris Paul is a chance for him to finish this season. He's going to finish it somewhere else. And I'm hoping he gets to finish it someplace. He can Charlotte me. But I just want to finish it where we can play some basketball. When the last time you seen a hornet game, it's a mess. We just played them the other night. They got a bunch of dudes you can't name. They got a bunch of 19-year-olds. And Lonzo Ball almost made A-3s and brought them back from a 20-point deficit. There's nothing else going on over there. I'd love to either see him be on a competitive environment for a playoff spot or a championship, go to an elite team and play just a couple minutes. Or I'd like them to see a team like that, where he's going to play a lot of minutes, even if they're not going very far. But he can at least finish his career playing real basketball in 25, 30 minutes a night. I'd like to see one of those two things. I'd hate to see him at the end of a bench on a team that's not going nowhere. I would want to say that I wouldn't mind seeing him in some type of backup role on the Knicks. But the very first time I see him talking to Jalen Brunson aggressively, I'm getting him to fuck out of here. Right. I don't want to see that. So what do y'all think he goes? What do y'all think he goes? To bed. No. Go to bed. No, no. Go to bed. I don't know why people have such a hard time going to bed. Chris Paul for me. No. He got a 50 shot this season. Top 10 point guard of all time. One of the best point guards of his generation. I think he deserves a farewell tour. I think people thinking that they deserve shit is. I mean, I don't know if he thinks he deserves it. I just as a fan would even love to say goodbye to him. Chris Paul is now. Chris Paul and the Clippers, unfortunately, now go down like the Denver Nugget Carmelo. And it's unfortunate. Yeah. It's a shame. But the Nuggets act like Carmelo Anthony didn't. He's don't even exist. Yeah. Yeah. By the grace of God, thank God, he went to another team and had a run. He didn't win, but he had a run. And I'm so happy that the Knicks celebrate him like they supposed to. I think he was more celebrated in New York. Maybe it's just because I live in New York. And is currently to this day. I don't, Chris Paul, whatever team he goes to, that history. And less is the Pelicans. And who the fuck wants to go there? Yeah, I guess it would be the Pelicans. It would be the Pelicans. Because they were the hornets when, yeah. It's tricky. Because they actually switched. They did something they were not supposed to do, which is switch the. Switch names. Not just switch names, but then they gave the franchise to the actual city versus the team. Right. He just needed to go somewhere where, again, and they should have did this on the Clippers, where when you run out there and they introduce some players or they put you in the game for whatever minute you play, just wave to the crowd, take a bow, put a fist up, and go back to doing what the fuck he was doing. Right. That ain't a bad idea. That ain't a bad idea. And you can do that silently. But I think a lot of the tension was in practice. And in the locker room afterwards, not like he's on a court saying you should have got on top of that screen. It's more like in practice. Like what the fuck are y'all doing? Yeah, I think he's still a competitor, yo. Like some of that shit really be in people. And a coach. If I'm out here, I'm doing this to the best of my ability, even if I'm not who I used to be. Even if it's to his detriment. Yes, he had to imagine. That's all I know. I would have to imagine. Maybe I'm wrong. There was a conversation before the conversation. I'm sure at some point during this short part of the season that we're into, someone said, you could chill out a little bit, bro. You're not here for this. It wasn't looking. I don't think they just said, you know what? Get the fuck out of here. I agree. And it don't look like they were looking to do this the smoothest way possible. They let them pack for a road trip. Yeah. I think something happened. Yeah. There's something missing. The show that broke the camel's back happened on that road trip. And it was like, you know what? We not even, yo, you got to go. But the last piece of this for me is just outside of Chris Paul is just the clippers. There are a few franchises. And maybe this is why I don't have the same position on Pablo Torre as it does. There's a lot of reasons why. But the big one is because I don't have any sympathy for the clippers. Like they're just such a poorly run team. And historically. Historically, I mean, from San Diego to LA, I mean, honestly, Lob City is the one blip where they were competitive. And even then, they weren't well run. I think all everything you're saying is super unfair because these are not those clippers. We've seen this clipper, not this clippers, but a recent clippers team beat the Lakers, have traction, have motion, win, have identity. They have a new owner, the richest owner in the universe. They just built a new arena. Like everything about these clippers is the total opposite of your Lamar Odom clippers. And I thought that too, until the Balmer thing happened. Right? And then it's like, oh, well, yeah, y'all got, you call it outside. Of course you got co-op. What Balmer thing? The plants? Yeah. I'm saying, I just feel like some clippers. That can't go into old clipper land. The plants. What I'm saying is even that, even that, it's a scam, but is somebody being innovative, trying to figure out how to get a star player and keep them happy? That's not old clipper to me either. I mean, yeah, clippers like. I mean, I guess what I'm saying is, for me, the clippers always will be dysfunctional. Yes. No matter what. That's what I'm saying. And some of this is, I agree, there are different traditions and different owners, but it seems like no matter what they do, they end up as the clippers, it's like Gilligan's Island. They just always end up back in the same place again. Even when they get Coaliner and Paul George, they together play, you know, they together don't play a whole ton of games. It also doesn't help that Paul George trade will go down as one of the worst traders in the history of. They gave up the best player in the NBA. They gave up a lot more than that. And a whole bunch of traffic. Right. That's what I'm saying. So that's what I'm saying. Even this new clipper team, it done some real clipper shit. So I don't have sympathy for them. And I'm only saying that to say, if we don't know what happened between Chris Paul and the clippers, I'm gonna lean on the Chris Paul side. Because the clippers have done nothing in their history that make me feel like they handle shit the right way. That's all. I'm with Ice. Whatever Chris Paul did, he doesn't deserve that. Yeah, that's all I want. It's Chris Paul. Yeah, he does. That's still Chris Paul. He doesn't deserve that. Who's been? I think we can all agree on that. The LeBron 10 point streak has ended. Yes. You're championing. Mark, that's sick. No, no, no, no, no, no. You're a sicko. You're missing what I'm saying. I love LeBron. What I'm saying is I love the fact that it ended with him making the right basketball play. Yeah, that was, that was. I thought that was great. I mean, if you're going to end your streak, and I'm sad that it ended, it's one of the most impressive streaks I've ever seen. 18 years? I would choose. But I'm like, he could have taken that shot. And there's a lot of players in the league that would have taken that shot to try and get 10 points. The streak ended in the most LeBron way that it could possibly end. That's what I'm saying. And thank God that RUI had that shot. Yeah. And that's what I'm saying. So I'm saying salute to LeBron. Like to me, if you look at LeBron's legacy, this is like an embodiment of it. You know what I'm saying? Even when he didn't score the 10 points, he did it because he made the right basketball play. And they won the game from making the pass. Well, a future reference, when I say that LeBron's streak ended, and you say, yes! We don't get all that context. It looked a little crazy. You don't get all that extra context. I'm sorry. It was, I'm sorry. Because I was excited to talk about it. I wasn't on the board and I was like, oh yes, we get to talk about it. I was excited. Got it. Yeah, I've been really happy to see. Ish. What do I say? I'm not disagreeing with him. No, I'm asking you about your Laker fans. So I'm going to throw it to you now. And we working. No, no, no. You said Ish, like. I just want to hear your thoughts, period. Or just Lakers. No, about the streak ended as a Laker fan. I don't care about that shit. I care about us winning games. So him making that play and we winning game based on that play is all I give a fuck about. Got it. Do y'all think we ever see this again? See what? LeBron type of person? No. That type of streak. That low-givety isn't saying. That's 18 years in a long time. Staying healthy that long and playing at an optimal level is really, really hard to do. Even with today's technology, that shit is hard to do, bro. I don't think we see that. A 20-year career is hard to do. Of like, playing well. At a high level. Yo, just playing at that level of, yo, you running and you jumping and you pounding on your body, that shit is hard to do for 20 years, bro. I'm with everything y'all saying because we on air. If we are not on air, then if I'm LeBron James, after that game, I'm hitting the Luca and Austin Reeves group chat to tell them, yo, give me some more fucking shots while I choke slam one of you motherfuckers. No, you're not. I'm the greatest in the world, all right? No. Fucking LeBron. No, you're not. Make sure I get more than eight points. No, you're not. Hey, homeboy, I see you on fire right now. Before the fourth quarter, make sure a big daddy gets hit. Keep cooking so y'all can give me another three years and I can come get some more money. Right. Give me another 25,000, 25 million a year. To continuing to cook says that he gonna get more time. No, I don't look at it like that. No, I say, if they keep playing at this level, I ain't gotta play that hard. LeBron could get another two or three years. If they keep playing at this level, he gonna get the Chris Paul wave in the middle of the night. You crazy as hell. Hey, they're saying Jeannie Bussing them no more, big dog, remember they sold. This is some old nigga that don't know a night long. No, he know. I mean, shit. He know though. Whoever, they know. You said it's somebody that don't know. That's LeBron James. They still know. Yo, let's have that talk. Cause we didn't repeat people's names. That's Chris Paul. That's LeBron James. No matter who you are, what goes up most can be. Yeah, at times, at times. Right? Of course. And when you're on the downward, everybody is not adhering to you us or you us. Yeah, everybody ain't rocking like that. That's true for the most part. We talking about LeBron James. It's him saying, hey, this is my last season. Dog, this room is right now. It's not getting along like that. This is like, it's rumors right now that LeBron is contemplating this being his last season because he is still at odds with, I'm just telling you rumors. Okay, okay. So, we my last season here. No, I got the Rumblings. It could be last season over here. Yeah, I heard the Rumblings. I might not like them. It don't look like they getting along. Yeah, it don't. If you just looking at it, but I'm minding my business. I don't have insiders in this. JJ looked at him the other day when he was getting blown by 20 and he was over there keying and laughing and choking with the Phoenix niggas. Niggas is looking like, what the fuck is you doing? That looked funny. Last year when he was doing that shit with Ant-Man and then when we was losing in the playoffs, Niggas was mad. That looked funny that shit where he going to say peace to everybody he know on the other team on the bench. I don't like that shit. I mean, I've accepted that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're dinosaurs in that aspect. And the game I was seeing was Dallas. Don't walk to the other team and do your secret handshakes with them. With, you can do that when you winning. We're not losing by 30 and you keep keying with them niggas over there. No, I don't want to see that shit at all. But again, that's just my instinct. These guys like each other a lot more than I like. They best friends. You know, opposing teams. I'm not used to that. But I respect that LeBron does that and he still shows up for the game and still plays to the utmost. He's a legend. He deserves all the praise. This streak for me in some ways is not to me. It's just as impressive almost as his NBA scoring as his all-time scoring record. I mean, just in terms of consistency, night after night after night, really never having a night where you don't do that. For, I mean, that's impressive. And I don't know if we give LeBron enough credit. I think we see so much greatness around him because he's been here around. I think we're gonna need five years of distance from him to really appreciate how amazing and unparalleled LeBron James is as a basketball player. Speaking of big superstars, let's wrap this up so we can get Demona back in the game. I'll be trying, bro. You see Demona's off Demona. No, you know, and I said something about the Chris Paul thing because that sounds pretty bad. Well, Demona, what do you think about Clay naming a boat after Meg? I think it's lit. I think it's amazeballs. It's a boat. Amazeballs. Like what is it a boat? It's not like the little cheap boats, the little motor. It's a yacht, right? It could be the minnow. Somebody named something after you. I don't want to rag the ass boat named after the little. No, I think they're gonna name a match book after you and some shit. I think it's called the fancy match book with the thing on the side. Yeah, you better. The little strike on the side of the box. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the fancy one. I think they're rolling. They're gonna name a Delta 88 after Demona. Did they show the boat? I haven't seen the boat. I just know Clay Todd's been named the boat. None of this is moving too fast for y'all? Mark. As niggas that have moved fast. They've been the boat after the big dude. So Mark is such a bitch. You don't know. Listen to the word. You asking the wrong niggas. If some of us are moving too fast for them. You are. Why y'all moving fast? Hey, hey, hey, hey. What's up? And they calling me the, that's the funny part. These niggas is Ben Johnson, Carl Lewis. Who's saying Mike and Mike Johnson? These niggas. Is it moving too fast for you? Yeah. Why? I assume celebrity romances don't last. That's why. I just assume celebrity romances don't last. It might not be fair, but I assume they don't. Clay is really a celebrity though. Huh? He famous. And a celebrity. No. Yeah, just walk it back. No, he don't live it. In my opinion, we don't see him outside like a celebrity is what I'm saying. Like he don't be at all shit. Yeah, he's more private. Then he ain't part of nothing. That's what makes me worry more about this. Cause he'll lose that for the while. I just want relationships to move at a good pace. But who sets that pace? Why? Who are you? I like business. Niggas, this whole story ain't our business. I'm just saying. Don't make me the fan. That's getting games in a month. Working, yeah. Tell me what you think, Joe. Don't make me, I love it. Love wins. I love it. I'm a fan of love. Love wins. He picked up from the airport the other day, car full of gifts and shit. I love it. I love the romantic scene, all of that. Little bit of paint take all of the way to it. That's true. I guess you got unnameable too. Yeah, man, a little bit of paint. Oh, now that's a fact. Yo, y'all, maybe that's how I need to think about it. I just don't have another name before this. Y'all don't move fast? Look, if my- I move fast, boy. I'm pregnant. I think you'll take four. Niggas, I thought you were that baby. See what's, now we don't play a P, nigga. Moving fast is fun. I like it. Oh, it's the fast. Let's get to that part, since you want to talk shit. Oh, I love moving fast. I just know it's a bad idea. It's a blast. Oh my God, it's nothing bad. All right, so Joe, moving fast for you. What's the, have you moved somebody in fast? No, you're not understanding what I'm trying to do, bro. I couldn't answer that, yo. Niggas, y'all are his friends. Y'all done? I tried to, I tried to told you. Okay, so, Ish, paint the picture for me. So, two weeks. Well, he was trying to move in, too. Oh, shit. You gotta go home. Oh, shit. Of course, they just never leave the first day. I mean, two weeks. Yeah, I have moved people in fast. Now, if you move in a bitch in two weeks, that bitch ain't have a home to start with. Well, that's not it. Well, I mean, well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's even a place to stay. I'll be gone when you're out. You know what I mean? I'm gonna go back to where you said. Look. I don't know. I don't think it's exciting to move fast. Moving in a stranger with fire pussy. I don't know what these niggas is talking about. Like, what? You get to know the bitch every week is exciting. Every week you learn something new. By week six, you find out her last name in the middle name. That's crazy. So, Joe, you do the quick, the quick moving or whatever. Have done, Ma. Have done. I'm saying, I'm saying, hey, this is how you do. No, no, I mean. No, you can't play like that now. I'm paying a pay. I'm saying, so you do the quick moving and then things don't work out. What do you do? You have to sit. You have to sit. I'm gonna make my girl mad. Ow. Because, because, because don't move everybody else in and take your time. Oh, shit. No, no, because I'm doing this. This is what he does. Niggas have shot a lived in the tri-state area. She already been there. What are you talking about? She back in the day, yeah. Anyway, what did you say, the morning? I like moving fast. You'll never move fast before? No, it's not my thing. Yes. Ever. He do. You never move fast. To make somebody my girlfriend officially, that's not my thing. It's not even a problem. It's not even a problem. It's not even a problem. That's why he hang his hat always. He just said the same thing, bro. Everybody not you, nigga. I don't play with him like I play with you, boy. All right, so why don't you, what do you say? I'm talking to you. I got it. No, that's not my thing. No, but this is what I'm saying. Cause you said make him your girlfriend. We're fastening him the title thing. Before you know it, we just ready to finish it. It's not calling you. That's not happening. When I look up and we locked in at the front, what's it mean fast? We not locked in in two weeks. That's what we are. We ain't never had a good two weeks. Yeah. You ain't never had, if you didn't do this, our challenge, you'd never had a good two weeks. Two weeks is long. Yes, sir. They'll fire weekend. Like the week, boy. Don't let it be a three day weekend. Boy. What? Don't let it be. Oh my God. My boy, day weekend. My boy, day weekend. Oh my God. You know what? I said him, him and him. You ain't no one selling stand-in. I get how it was fun to do that, but that ain't never been my thing. Look at you was on some doctor shit, but in the real nigga's street. I just take a while. I get to know him. In the real nigga's street. Hey, how much it take for you to take off? Why don't you stay with me? Stay in the bed. Don't go to work. Oh my God. Forever. RIP to all the niggas, how much it cost for you to take off? How much it cost for you to wipe your whole day clean because we so in love. That's a fucking so bad. We had so much fun at the diner. Oh my God. Do y'all remember when he was out? He talking now. Oh my God. Pay to stay home is crazy. I remember that. You ain't gotta go to bed. You ain't gotta go to bed. It gave me chills, memories. No. How much you stay home? That is the shit. Like. I'm not having this weekend. Oh my God. You gotta pay for what she would have made of the job. I get the logic of it. I know you're putting up. I'm letting it go to the right. Yeah, it wasn't a lot of money. Not one of it. I don't know money. 75 dollars. No, it was some money. Here you go. Bitches don't make any shit. Go honey. Stay home. I want everybody to know in this home. See they like the corporate chicks. That don't exist no more. Yeah, you like just stay home, drive through and take care of yourself. They ain't corporate though. Perkins can run itself. Yeah, you can do it. The clothes will fold themselves. Right. Absolutely. What a time to be alive. Y'all crazy though. What? And I'm gonna go to the kid room in the morning and see what little Tenny is up to. What? Tenny, you waiting in here? What's up? Why did you keep calling me Tenny? My name is Ron. Exactly. If you hungry and I'm hungry, mama will wake up. To making some eggs or something up in there. Yeah, hell yeah, move fast. There's people out there listening right now. Just met each other last night, hungover, still kissing. He's the only ever heard this podcast. They vibing. It's a vibe. Young lady go home. No, moving fast. Young lady go home. No, no, you can't. You're alone, you're alone. And moving fast is more fun if you're both famous. Now you get to step into that world, see what the fuck she's doing. I think that could be. That might be a little. I don't know nothing about that. That might be a little. You seem like it was fun. So, if you date famous people, oh, look at how I dated famous people. I have none. Everybody has some dating famous people. Everybody has some. Everybody has them. Don't assume, cause I did it, the room did. I don't have no goals of it either. Dating famous people. It's your wish. It's dating famous people. I dated to the famous people. Who did it's date? I made some dates with the famous people. Uh huh. Uh huh. Hold on. Hold on. They better stop playing with them. That's true. That's true. He right. I'm just saying, when you date somebody famous, there's also the world gets in your business. Yeah, I think that's slower. And it's a commitment. You know what I mean? No, no, listen what I'm saying. Listen to me. News. I'm just saying, like, it's one thing to date somebody for a weekend and then you get over that shit. Oh, two weeks later, you move it right back out. But you don't took pictures. You won't, you won't all the blogs. You won't have the tabloids back in the day. And now you gotta explain a week later why y'all not together. That's too much, too much bullshit. Well, that's what helps, that's what helps keep y'all together when you move fast. Put out some content y'all gain in audience together. And now we gotta make this work. That's what I'm saying. We gonna let our fans down now. That's what I'm saying. You stuck in some bullshit because the world is watching. Well, all the flips out of that is... It can help you. I don't even really know you, girl. Get the fuck out of here. Like, you can just get on whatever you wanna get on. Yes, yes. I need to know who is they. Stay on the libraries, nigga. I need to know. What you mean to know what? I need to know who the is they that was famous. Ask me right there. You right there playing with his sneakers. He said he caught me down. He better start talking real soft. He already did, he already said, no fam, no. He already said no. He turned the mic up. I don't wanna talk about it. That old white lady in Toronto wasn't famous. He did that little lick-pucker. That little 70-year-old white lady from Toronto wasn't famous. I am playing with my son. When she famous, famous or like... I got extra in the best man holiday. She was the... Actually, she was the best man. How is that possible? Yo, he don't stop, yo. You don't gotta beat him. I'm playing, I'm playing, I'm playing, I'm playing. This nigga, yo. No, I'm joking. Will you tell Mona off-air to one person? Never. No. Damn, no. He not gonna do it. I fuck with you. That's what I'm talking about. That's why it's gonna move fast. He not gonna tell you. He not gonna tell you. But why not? He ain't giving it up. But to answer your question, she's famous, famous. Okay, and... Dumb to shit out of him. She's still famous. Dumb to him. Actually, I wanna know. To that nigga to the streets. Y'all still close? Nah, she don't speak to that nigga. What? Dumb to him. Yo, dumb to him? Hey, look. And she threw that nigga right back to wherever he was at. Go build that house, boy. Oh, shit. This yo, yo. What happened? Because I just remembered, I forgot. At first I was being authentic, but once I remember jokes... Once I remember jokes started flying. So, she was famous, y'all. How long was y'all together? She still famous. She still? Bro... Oh, my God. Do we know what his conversation is? I think it's about Jitshik. I don't know. I don't date famous Jitshik. Okay. I don't know famous Jitshik. It's you that don't date them. Yeah. I don't date models, my dickhead. I ain't date my famous Jitshik. I'm with you, I... Nah, he been trying to get shit off you. He been trying to get... Hey, hey, hey. I don't date famous Jitshik. Let him get his shit off, man. Hey, that's what it is. I don't take NBA contracts. Same shit. You know what I mean? Same shit. I don't hit the lotto. Right. Fuck the lotto. Yeah. Know what I was saying? I don't have any on the... under my... Got you. Got you. That's them guys. I have no interest in dating anybody famous. Famous people are assholes. I think that's true. But see, I think that's... They also stop you from doing your... your whole thing, which is moving fast. I think too many eyeballs in your relationship fucks it up. Even if I dated somebody famous, I would never do it publicly. You know what I mean? You ain't in control of that. I ain't trying to make no tiktok. Yes, I am in control of it. I think you would do it if you was in love with you together for a year or two. First of all, I ain't that famous anybody following me around. I still... still from out of Walmart sometimes. Okay, but they might be following the nigga around. That's what I'm seeing. I'm not doing it. I'm not fucking with no nigga where TMZ gonna throw out the butchers. Oh, is this the new baby mom? No. I don't have any interest in it because of that. I got it first. It stops still if from Walmart. They got the new camera shit in there now. That's target. I... Shut up. No, Walmart got it too now. Please. I'm telling you something. I'm trying to tell you. I'm trying to hold you down. Me and Joe bonded over stealing stories recently. Yeah, I ain't bonded over no Walmart stories. I tell you and what they do. I don't know where me and Joe still bond. No, but we still... No, no, no. Mona, they let you run it up to a certain number. That's target ice, please. All right. All right. Yo, when last time y'all stole something? Exactly. I'm not talking about the PPP shit. Yeah. Oh, please. You know what's up with you, please. I mean, for real, for real, for real. Like, not stealing from the government. Oh, my God. I'm still stealing. I know it. Not even peck of bubblegum. You would never. I drew type of nigga and one of them kids walk out with lollipop. You walk them back in and pay for it. No, I don't. I say it's good. And my business. That's still stealing. Nothing but his baby's heart. I'm talking about your baby. Walk out with the lollipop with you. You notice it in the hallway. My baby, no better. Oh, please, come on, dog. Y'all be killing me. Raising them up right, nigga. Sorry. No, you raising your kids right is not indicative of them taking something. They had to get the ice rain to keep it. All right. Because you, nigga. Get the milk. You want to keep his baby's heart, nigga. Yeah, now let's talk about it. I never want to get the ice rain to get it right. So Apple speaking of ice. But if you could date a famous girl, like if that wasn't your rule, like who would you pick? That is not Ice's rule. Yes it is. You just said that. Ice is lying. Yo, what are we doing? If Ice was single and wanted. Wanted him to say who famous chicks? No. I don't know. I don't know what he's talking about. Who would it be? I don't know. If Ice was single? I do remember. Y'all saying date. Date or fuck? I got to fuck this. I got to date this. That's two different conversations. But I think Ice is open to both if he was single. I think every nigga in this room is the right girl. And you in the room full of real niggas. When we say date, we popped. Oh no, no, no. You definitely. Off the rip, you could just go. The pop has been happy. All that's happened before dating. Yeah, popping is before dating. Yeah, yeah, but wave. Wave before dating. You hear me? Yeah. Same night. Same fight. Crazy, bro. I don't. I don't know nothing. Yeah, nah. I don't know shit. Might not make it to day two. After work today, give it to me. I'm going to tell you about some of the chicks I dated. Please, I need to know. I'm curious. Because I know you want to know. I really want to know. Guess who know. Look at me. The truth. The truth. I know the truth. I'm with that shit. We can start with the famous bitch. I want to know who that is. Oh, that's going to be quick. That shit. That's going to be fast. It wasn't like old. Is she in music? I'm not telling you nothing. That's my man. So I ain't going to give it away on air. But off air, I'm going to tell you all his business. All right. That's the same thing as the past song. That's Harry I'm going to wrap this up. That's his shit. But I got to fuck with you to tell his business. Like when them niggas see me in the street and want to kick it with me about it, that's my man. I don't fuck out my face. But if I know you and love you, oh, please, key it up. This is shit me. All right, I do have. I'm a demon. I do have Pharrell's clip. Pharrell responds to the recent controversy surrounding his political comments while accepting the 2025 FN double A shoe of the year award. Let's hear it. Like to hear it here. Yes, sir. The dude. Sound like this. Says most people don't like to read or do research. He's such a smug motherfucker. His nigga is a smug snarky fuck. Sound like this. From Virginia. Sound like this. You don't know what I'm talking about. You ain't saying what I'm talking about. No. You ain't been lying. The FETI social. We got it. Child, nobody's been convicted four times with me. Bikes turned on, water turned on, and at times had to pump the water. And I didn't have a name brand sneaker until I was 16 when I got courted for my first big check coming down. It's a long clip, too. Sound like this. 18th, low-top, in-states. Like the name of court. Why? You're fast. Sound like this. Don't be fooled by my bourgeois taste and heart. I'm proletarian. In fact, I'm lumping proletarian. The B-E-B. I don't care. Sound like this. But I could never walk in the shoes of my parents, parents, parents, parents, et cetera. All they had to endure while staying on their feet. Or my ancestors, who arrived as captives, enslaved, who had no shoes yet had to stay on their feet as they landed on the shores of Virginia. As black and brown people on this earth, we have to stay on our feet. We have never had a choice. Sound like this. We've made it clear that there's some way to look at our shoes. That's why I sound like this. Oh, my God. Yeah, all right, y'all. A dog, big dog. I'm a philanthropic effort to support the reach of our people. Being the hook to death. I'm done. Is that a hook in his speech? What the hell is that? He's so corny. And I don't know why you think that just because you basically saying you grew up in the mud, you grew up in the churches, that that takes away that you said something really insensitive and ignorant, it doesn't. If anything, it makes it worse because you had that experience. You've lived that experience. Weird, though. I don't trust things with little heads. You see my head ice. And forehead. Oh, sorry. I just didn't know all that. Joe never seen my forehead so recently, and it's been a little shocking. I'll never leave a bob. I always get my funneled ice down further on my head to chop this motherfucker down. And every time I ever came here, I've had a funnel. You know what I mean? Walk in with the forehead. Oh, what the fuck? Like what the fuck? You never seen a big forehead? Nega? That speech was bizarre to me. It was. It was. I'm not sure who the audience is for that or what the context is for it. But I don't think it accomplished what he thought it was going to accomplish. He didn't eat down like he thought he did. Yeah. Sound like this. I'm one of you. Yeah, you're not. Broke asses. Right. Right. It's weird. I'm the proletarian. You're not. You're literally the 1%. Yeah, like what is he talking about? Don't let the art fool you. And just take your shoe of the year award and go. Like we had a shoe awards. Oh, that's what it was? We had the shoe awards. Nega, if there's one place I don't want to hear about a Nega ancestors, it's at the shoe awards. Yo, just go ahead, Nega. Thanks to Clips, thanks Louis. But all of this, my ancestors, I'm from Virginia. They was standing on business without shoes and we got here on the ship and over here. I don't demand. For real, that's a fucking doof to me. I ain't gonna lie. Great producer. He is great producer, but he's one of them. You could tell he's angered by the reaction though. He doesn't have any feeling or feeling bad for. He's just pissed that people talk. They got mad about what he did. I'm just saying, if I'm him, I made those comments. Like you said, I'm angry at the response. That I've, I'm just saying, if I'm Pharrell and I feel like this has been taken out of context or something, my next chance to speak where I know it's gonna be cameras and shit, I'm probably gonna do something like that. Like I'm gonna tell you. You know what you would do though? You would actually address the thing that you thought people got wrong. Like word. Well that's what, and his version of doing it is the whole soundbite this, like saying that y'all don't read and you just taking soundbites and going off of that and having a whole discourse on for that. It's just a lot of strawmen to me. Like no one was saying Pharrell's statements were fucked up because he wasn't born poor because he grew up with a silver spoon. And it wasn't that it was, yo, you said this shit is insensitive, it's inconsistent, and it's wrong. The DEI stuff and all this stuff. It's out of touch, it's all those things. And so even if everything you said is true in that speech, which I don't doubt it was, it don't change. It don't apply. It don't change, it ain't gonna do what we was talking about. I give you a say. I give you a say. That's all for me. Soundbite this. I see Meeks message to old heads on the board. And I always love when Meeks speaks. I heard him speaking out about violence in the neighborhoods and stuff like that. So I'm always happy when Meeks speaks up. Are you always happy when Meeks speaks up? I am. I cringe. He always embarrassing us. All right, Meek Mill says, these niggas holding info on the next generation and snatching all opportunities and using money to control the motion. I'm going to all white men in A-Rabs about business and getting play. No black men, quote unquote. That's no black men, quote unquote, that's older than me. I'll never get it, but I'ma change that. We can't look up to the black older artists because they be damn near hating on us, it feels like. But if a white man asked them to do it, they going to work for them. He's the wrong person to say that. I will never get this part. I don't care if I die in the streets. I ain't being around that devil mental warfare shit for money. I don't want none of these people saying they love me or saying my brother anymore. Just straight up head up business. The biggest manipulation tactic in business, end quote. What do you think Joe? I really enjoy me tweeting too because. I love it. It's always compelling and interesting. And I mean, as the guy that lost the bet and had to do the bunny rap, the bunny hop. Yeah, that was just an interesting comp that he drew out, I wouldn't have said that. But I think Meek is old head. He is. And this is. How old is Meek? He's not. He's not. The youngest. Yeah. Yo, dawg, anybody in rap with 10 years and you owe it? Meek is 38. 38. You owe it. I don't know if he's talking about it from a level of age more than business and wisdom. Too much people Meek is old head with the experience and wisdom. But I'm saying that people above him that he might get information from. Like the whole generation. He's talking about another generation above him. He's saying that I would give the information and filter it down to the niggas that's younger than me. The people above him that have a mass more than me. They're not sharing the information. I wonder what he's talking about. Let me ask, did him and Hove fall out of something? Are we missing something? This is what it looked like between this, the rants he had before about, I'm trying to put the project together. I'm trying to come up with this money. I'm trying to get what he said, five million in investment money. When he was running around with Hove and Michael Rubin and all the billion in crew. I don't really see you with them like that no more. And now this statement right here. What the fuck on Michael Rubin? Okay. Well, I don't see you with Hove anymore. And this statement right here sounds like directly talking to Hove and Rick Ross. I was thinking Rick Ross. I'm curious. That was the rumor. I just seen a picture with him in Hove. We just posted a bunch of pictures with him and Rick Ross. Which is also trying to say, hey, I'm not talking about Rick Ross. The rumors was that it was Hove. I don't know if it was true or not, but that's what people, to your point, that's what people were saying. I'm curious to what young niggas coming up that are younger than him have to say about him. And did he usher anybody in it? Did he help anybody? He might have. I'm curious. I've heard some, but I'm curious what the masses would say. I feel like it's always like that. You look up and it's like, oh, I ain't getting no support or I ain't getting whatever. But he's at the age where his niggas looking up at him too. But the thing is, he's looking up to him and trying to reach out and do shit. And Meek has worked with lesser known younger artists. A lot of them. A lot of them. Especially artists that rep the trenches and all. He has definitely done that. Meek might not have the, like he don't have a label. He might not have the ability to really maneuver and usher somebody else in like he would like to do. Or like they would even think, Meek just has his name right now. You know what I'm saying? I just don't like him speaking from, and not just him, just anybody. I don't like people speaking from only their experiences and then turning around saying all black OGs are not helping. They're not talking. They're not funneling down information. That make me wonder who your OGs are. Who are your OGs? That's part of what I was asking you what you thought about it. Because I was wondering what your experience was coming through the business. Oh, coming through the business is different. Coming through the business is dog eat dog. Trying to get a record deal in the 90s. I used to wonder why you would see fucking Chris Lighty or whatever exec, whatever exec. And you could be nice as hell and not get a callback. But Niggas ain't trying to help people that's nicer than them. Or that was the thing in the 90s. I don't know if that's so much the case today as I got older, as I went through shit. I got plenty of jewels from people older than me. A lot of the KRS one don't stop teaching. Black Thought don't stop teaching. Race don't stop teaching. Fucking, there's names I can name of people who will willingly give you the information free of charge. I don't know what circles he's in. But, and to some people's point, cause I know that was a common thing where a lot of people was having a problem with Master P about that. Where P was trying to help some of these younger artists. Like, yo, let me look at your paperwork. Let me see this, let me see that. And then he got burnt a couple times. And then when I was saying, I'm not doing this shit for free no more. I'm not trying to help you all. Yeah, Master P said that. And then it was another thing where it's like, I believe it was, I think it was called that. Yo, let me try to help you all make sure you were in a proper situation and you waste my time. So now it's like, I'm charging for this information. Like it's not just helping for the love of the game for free. But don't take the information. Some people don't hear what they wanna hear. And they don't want information. They want you to hold the hands and walk them through the steps to get them to the next level. They only want to be one step or two steps to your point. People say they want information, but they really want you to move something for them. Get it done, move them out. And it's like, bitch, that's not what you asked for. That's how you should be direct, cause you never know. You know what I mean? And the most where I think it's like a dog eat dog thing. I think age don't matter. And I'm talking about in general, just in this country rich motherfuckers keep their money from keeping other people away from getting it, period. That's just what goes on. Muffers box you out, goes you out. I don't think that that changes, whether it's black, white, whatever. It's the American fucking way. It's capitalism. That's the part I didn't like about what Meek said. Cause I agree with him that is you and him that is dog eat dog. And I do think there's a lot of people to hoard information or we'll exploit you and pretend use the brother card as a way to exploit. I get that. But it's not like, where's this history of like white men being that helpful? It helps people get rich. EARPS! Like I think all race, I think like you said as a capitalist, like I think everybody in the record business who's an exact or powerful, they got powerful by hoarding power. That's what you do. I don't think it's a race, I actually don't think that's a race thing. I think it's just, that's the way the business works. That's just what goes on. And them niggas come from the music industry got in the podcast and did the same shit. That's what's going on. That's what niggas do. And it's the thing is like you could have a crowd, about you could figure it the fuck out. I'd rather figure it out. You're not gonna see me on a platform, bitch. Cause anybody help me, fuck y'all. I don't need no help. But I didn't hear me bitching about that. What I heard him say was I'm gonna do something different. And that's the part I appreciated about what he said. Nah, you a bitching though. Anytime you get on a platform and start to, black men don't, you bitching. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he was talking about us, I ain't with that shit. See, I don't even like that part. Like I don't like that part because it was a black man, Ross, who put you in front of the rest of us. Yeah, and not even that. Before the black man, I remember distinctly, cause Meek Mills was everything in certain years. T.I. got in that mixtape and everything changed. It was when he was going over it in T.I. And cause T.I. got indicted so he couldn't sign up. And that's how he ended up with Rick. But it was huge. All of rap niggas, all of them DVD niggas, read dollars, all of them people. That's what set Meek apart when T.I. got in that mixtape and that shit went crazy and he been unlocal ever since. You know what I mean? So for that guy to say it, it's like, you the niggas gonna say it, like get the fuck on with that. I don't like that. But I think there's a difference to the music piece and the business piece. I think we keep taking this back to music and I don't necessarily know he's referring to music. He might not be referring to music. He might be referring to other levels of business, which I don't. But music is a business, y'all. What are we talking about? I think what he's saying is, you put me on music, but could you put on and still get exploited? Yeah, that don't, like mad niggas have been introduced to the world. We dissing Puff. Puff can say, y'all put all these people on, but all of these niggas are still broke at the end of the day. They all still bitching about not receiving what they were supposed to receive or what they contractually signed up to get. So Puff can say, y'all put you on. But if you to do, ride, whatever, he's saying I ain't getting no money. He's saying more too, buddy. Yeah, I'm just, of course, I'm just giving you an example. So yeah, I could put you on, but I don't even necessarily think he's talking about the music business. I think that from what I've heard, Rowan- But he says, and I'll just repeat this, we can't look up to the black, older artists because they be damn near hating on us, it feel like. That to me sound like he think that he's of a younger age and older artist. To who he's talking to? Yeah. He is of a younger age. Yo, let me tell you something. Bun B ain't gonna hate on nobody. No, it's a fact. Yeah. He's gonna give you all the information and I can name a list of OGs who, they'll talk to you. I can't speak for Meeks experience. But framing this like this is- Because again, yo, Meek got records where he's saying, is it because I got the billion in from Marcy who got my back? Excuse me, stuff like that. I think this is a whole beef he has. Whereas, Hove, you're here. You got this, I'm trying to get to that level and I expect you to bring me to that level. Why? That's a big expectation. Because we brothers. Yeah, man. Because we brothers- To me, our brotherhood- But that's why he's saying, don't stop hiding it behind the brother shit. Just because you're my sister, don't mean I got to help you and get on my life. That's crazy. But if a white man asks them to do it, they going to work for them. Bro, he not all the way wrong. He might have a point with those- He not all the way wrong. So I understand on the opposite side of y'all. And again, I don't know nothing about the music business, but in business itself, there are times where somebody might have some information that can help you ascend and they not give it to you. And they don't give it to a stranger. That happens, bro. He's not totally way off. Again, I'm not familiar with the music business. But in business, a nigga will give a stranger way more information than they might give somebody that they've known forever, because you're not necessarily competing with some stranger. That stranger's going over there. The nigga right here, that's at an eight and you at a 20, I got to see him every day. So now I might give him some information and he could take that eight and turn it to a 25. And I'm still stuck at a 20. That happens in business, y'all. He's not completely right now. To oppose that too, there are also maybe someone that you have given information for 20 years and they don't do anything with the information. They keep asking for information. It's like, how much more can I give you? Both things can be true. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, both things can be true. Yeah, but one thing I don't have a whole lot of time for in business is crying. If somebody ain't giving you the information and we still in business. All right, what's your next move? Yeah, but you still got to figure it out. But to some people's point, why would I have to figure it out? If my man that's calling me his brother got a PhD in this particular topic, I shouldn't have to figure it out on my own because you went through it. I agree with that. So don't say you love me. Don't say we pro black and we all these other things. If you see that you could solve this problem for me, I hope we solve this problem and you leave me to figure it out. Hold up a minute, Mona, but he's the last person that can. I don't know. He's the last person that can say that. As I'm just sitting here thinking, part of ICE's earlier point, Meek has been in all of the rooms that none of y'all can get in. He's been around all of the Brainiacs. He's been around the best lawyers, the best accountants. He's been around the best of the best. So for him to be the guy to come and say, people are gate keeping the information, it's like dog, you can't say that. Yo ho, yo ho trajectory is that. Because somebody gave you access. We talking about the same dude that, because Meek got support in the city, he was first coming out, he caught that stupid ass case because Pennsylvania locked you up and throw you away the key for nothing. But his bell was real high. He was facing a lot of time. The world street then was he got support by somebody big in the city and they came through and paid the bell and da da da. Then again, he get booked with the dirt bike shit. All the people, you know what I mean? It's like, it's been a lot of times where he's got support from big and small and everybody else. So I don't want to hear you get you know on Twitter. Yeah, that was gonna be my next point. We watched all the hip hop come together, stand up, go to Philly City Hall, march. Like you can't say that is all. No, not the nigga that landed on the helicopter the first day out of jail on top of the truck. Yeah, I was there for that. I mean, I think it's different though. I get to your point, I still think that that all happened. He can still be saying, but when you get into this business world, it's different. Was he not in the business world? It's the same shit. I think he's saying the people who in the business world who help him are the white men and that the black men are gatekeeping the business side of it. I'm not saying I would challenge him if that's what I thought he was saying. If you think that black people, white people don't, you're just misinformed. You ain't been around enough white people been in the business period. If he's saying that's because he ain't been around or if Michael Rubin and Robert Grimes. Oh, that's his experience. It's not. He feel like they giving them more games than the black person. That's what he's saying. That's what we get gatekeeping from. Mona, get that Mona girl. There you go. The side pieces. This shit should be done ready when I get here. I'm turning it the wrong way. It was. You know about the side pieces better than me. You know about the side pieces better than me. Oh shit. There we go. You sure? There we go. Oh, you were saying? Oh, it was something. I know. I don't know. I don't know. Oh, you said that the gatekeeping came from the box. Oh yeah, me personally. I mean, that's that I, yes, black people got gatekeeping from white people. Oh, for sure. That's the fact. Yeah. And again, I think we put, sometimes we do put more criticism on each other. A white man might give you one piece of information. Right. And it's like, oh, they did everything for me. Exactly. And to your point, you could have gotten 10 years of information from a black person. And one time they say no, it becomes like, black people don't fuck with me. So I don't know what's true in Meeks case, but I just, I'd like to know more about what he was talking about because the problem with the tweets is that they're so vague. Yeah, they're cryptic. Yeah, they're cryptic. That's a better word. I don't even know exactly what he, because it still sounds like Hove to me. Bro, if he put, let's, if he put them tweets out and then everybody's saying, okay, he's talking to Hove or Ross. And then I turn around and put up a bunch of pictures with me and Ross. But what is he thinking? Hove, I'm calling. I'm telling y'all something. What's, what's going to, what is he going to get out the tweets? I've never heard that there was a Meek and Hove beef. Oh, I didn't hear it. But I mean, so I'm just cracking it from, Oh, go ahead. Oh, I feel like Pregnation, that was the first, that was the first rumor of it, that there was attention there. That's why in the whole, in the verse when Hove was like, you know what I mean? Meek and Hove are free to nigga from the whole bid. He was responding to the rumor that they had a beef. I remember that. But that response doesn't mean that they actually don't have a beef. It just means, it could mean we shouldn't have a beef. No, it means you might be beefing with me. I'm never about beefing with you. Yeah, we're not even on the same level to beef. Boss, you shouldn't be because I freed you from a whole bucket. I'm just saying, so you could read that a lot of ways. But it didn't clear the air. Right. And then since then there's been less, Can I pull every string in the world to freed? And I agree, you can't say that. Come on, bro, you're freedom nigga. I feel the same way. Freedom, freedom. I don't owe you nothing, please. I feel the same way. Y'all know I put some insincerity in people. And so, but since then there's been this undercurrent that there was some tension between it. I don't know if it's true or not, but that's definitely what people are saying. And it's definitely not stopped. He ain't helping it with this. And these tweets, don't, these tweets reinforced that to me. Exactly, I agree. And if you wanna, if that's the relationship that he wants back, or he wants to mend, that's not how you want it to be with a nigga like that. I don't know. I ain't gonna lie. Bring back the motherfucking late 90s and the 2000s, where if we had a problem with hoe, we told you what the problem was. These motherfuckers now, if they'll never say whatever, the real beef is ain't that fair? If they'll say 19, 99, JZ, nigga. I must say, in fairness. I must say why, because he's so powerful. Yeah, I must say, hoe was your peer. To him, he's like a mob boss to them. You 25, you ain't saying shit about hoe. You a battle to nigga. That shit, he was a mob boss to them. Yes, but he was your peer. But he was levels to peers. Yes, for sure. He was, we shouldn't have been saying stuff about him. He wasn't his peer, Mr. Carter. He wasn't a nigga's peer then, but people might have thought he was their peer. Now, it's clear. Now, the separation is apparent. And the air up there is different. And you can't say nothing if you wanna perform in a soup bowl. If you wanna perform at Joe's pub, you can't say nothing. That's how they feel. Like he can erase everything. Wow. Niggas that silence needs. Yeah. That was the thing about it. What's that mean? It's the thing about niggas that silence needs. I thought he just said, fuck the sneeze. Isn't he actually sneezed? Oh, it's just sneezed. And it was like, y'all didn't hear a thing. Beautiful ass nigga. It wasn't the prettiest sneeze I've ever heard. Clean butt hole ass nigga. It was a good life's kiss. Clean ass butt hole ass nigga. Please. Everything he do is beautiful. Meek. Good luck. I guess. I guess. Get the fuck off Twitter. Into the next week. I'm done into the next week. Yeah, I like, I like, we're probably already out now. I like we out of the four songs off the four pack, so I'm cool. Yeah, four pack is good. Yeah, four pack is good. I'm cool. The music there, but get the fuck off of Twitter, bro. I got some music. I don't give a fuck. He been shit of got off of social media. I don't care. No, I get that. I am a fan of Meek Mill the Rapper. Yeah. So as long as I'm getting raps, I'm cool. You can do all that other shit. You got it. I'm just thinking about all of the times that Meek has gone to the internet with something. And the one that keep coming to mind is when he was mad about Roddy Rich. And what happened with Roddy Rich? I can assure him that that wasn't the black person that did that. Yeah, it's a go. I could promise him that wasn't the black person that did that. And if the business would have been right, in his eyes, there wouldn't be no four pack. I go back to that all the time. If Niggas got they just do and what they accomplished in music, then the beefs would even be different. Oh, for sure. Yeah, absolutely. That's true. Yeah, so. Because that's where a lot of his shit started from. He learned what, there was his first album, he learned what he made. And then he knew what he got. And then that's when he started like, hold up, wait, wait, I made how much? And so what, where that's when he started, he started asking about South Africa numbers and all he started, now I'm looking at global numbers. This is all shit you're not thinking about before. True. He started to get more information and then you realize, wait, how much did I make? Oh no, something's wrong here. No, and it has been on that ever since. And you post in pictures with Russ, I can assure you Russ has more information than a lot of people in the music business. For sure. Absolutely. I can assure you, that's, that you're right next to the person that we can speak to, speak to him. For sure. That's why it feels like one of them, when you say niggas are people, you really mean person. Like this feels like it's targeted at a person, whoever it is, I'm not saying it's whole- I would respect it more if he highlighted the person or people and didn't say black OGs. That's my only issue with what he's saying. Black OGs are not doing X, Y, Z. I can't even say how many times I think Meek would have went and hung around the black OGs that I think are just freely giving out information. You over there with the cool kids. You over there with everybody on the French Pop that record. It's like where you expect to get your information from. I'm off, right? Yeah, I don't know Meek. I don't know. I don't know. I support you. I support you in all you're doing because I love the independence thing. I love anybody that's willing to grind it out. And when you're willing to do the independence thing, not to be the broken record again, it's gonna be roadblocks. It's gonna be roadblocks and people ain't just gonna offer to help you get where you're going. Independent means you get the lion's share. Unless you're gonna start paying people, what do you want me to do? Yeah. Yeah. What else? What else? What else? You know, you be doing the like fix this business type of little segment. Roddy Rich. That's the name I thought about. Okay. Who was supposed to drop, right? He was supposed to drop, then it magically disappeared from them. No, no, see people reported that. First off, this is either the fifth or sixth date date just in 2025 that this has happened with. I don't know why people are just saying this now. This has been happening since February where he had a date and as the due to pre-save, and then it disappears. That date approaches, it disappears, it'll pop back up April, July, October, and now December. So I'm not really talking about the date stick. I knew that album wasn't coming out. Me and Low Key had a whole conversation about it on Twitter, like that album's not dropping. But how can we fix Roddy Rich? And just for the record, it's worse now because it's not just that the album, the Navy album. Yeah, the Navy album. It's not just that it's not, let's push back and say it's been completely deleted off Apple Music. Oh really? Yeah. So there's not even a pre-page anymore. Oh wow. So. It's difficult to say because what's the cause? Yeah, what's the cause? Is Apple clear or shit? Is he not happy? Is he recutting shit? Is he not paying producers? The label not paying producers? The label holding it back? As somebody that don't know a thing about any of it, since all Julian Craig leaving Atlantic, he's an Atlantic. What artist at Atlantic? Yeah, yeah, I forgot he's over there. He's in the rut. Yeah, he's in that. He's in the mix. I think it's more than that, man. I think with him in particular, he dropped the Please Don't Scooby for being an anti-social album. Had the box, which is a diamond record, I believe at this point. I think that album was like five times platinum or something. Then the next album, which was Live Life Fast or something, wasn't received well. Right. And I think with him, I think they're scared of that. Or whether it be him, the label, somebody, we can't have another one of those. And I think there's no confidence yet in to drop. He dropped a single, Survivors Remorse, which is okay. I like the single. He dropped something else he dropped. But I think there's a disconnect just in confidence in the music. Which is still an Atlantic thing. Because Roddy Rich came up here. Didn't strike me as somebody that didn't have confidence. He seemed like one of the more confident artists in the universe. And again, you would be. With the success that he's had. If all those things are true and what he makes from the show, I'm just saying, I don't know him. He didn't seem like he lacked confidence. But even that, what he makes from the show, I thought about that. You know, festival runs have been going around. I haven't seen his name at the top three lines in a minute. Because he has to come out. Yeah, he has to record out. Like I talked to Roddy Rich at the, when we went to the Kendrick Show. Okay. He was there. And we had a quick little conversation. And he still seemed to confident self. Like he was like, yo, I'm coming. I got this. I got this. I got this. And nothing. I think that some of the people over there at Atlantic, and I don't know none of y'all new niggas. I'm from a time before y'all. But it seems like there are some advanced analytics people. Yeah, it's possible. Over there, we're not going off the pulse of things and who's cool and who's dope. We're going off of what we see on this paper. And they may not have seen enough to convince them that Roddy Rich needs an album in the marketplace right now. It's a weird era too. Again, I'm sure you know what to call it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a weird era too now where we're seeing, especially with the Wale Project that we've discussed a million times. But I think that's kind of the blueprint for most of these labels, where they're not putting no money up front into the shit. So. Yeah, but at least like with the Wale Project, which is what a lot of labels are doing now is post drop marketing, where we drop it. Sure. But I'm saying, well, Roddy, we don't even have an album. I'm saying, put the album out. That's what I'm saying. Like why would the label have to have confidence if their current business model seems to be, let's put it out, see what happens, and then react from there. I haven't seen anything that says that Atlantic is down with that. Okay. I'll tell you what, when he first came out, those first was it too, the box was the second one. And then the first, how many was before the box? The box is second and the first one is what? The box was his single, single. That was the one. No, the album was called the box two though, right? The album called the box was the one. Please excuse me for being anti-social. Yeah, all that shit was so good, I just never foreseen to be here this fast. Like, cause it's been a while, where it's like, what the fuck is going on? Cause he was like, it was no skips for me. I fucked with him from the door. First I used to think that he was like depressed, like cause when Nipsey died, I thought they, I know they was still attached and that was a mentor of his. And I thought that could affect him. But like at this point, it's like, what the fuck is going on? And he spoke to dealing with some of the same things that Bryson Tiller talked about. Like my first project being so successful that it made me depressed. Yeah. Like he spoke to a little bit of that happening as well. So it could be a combination of things. But yeah, like. It came out with the second one and the second one was good too though. That's what I'm saying. It wasn't received the same. Which the second one. The second album was nowhere near wasn't received. That's one of the downsides of having to hit record is people are going to look for the hit record. But I think that he should just keep all the, keep it on cause he's dope. Might not be as good. He's very dope. Right, he's very dope. I've been looking forward. Every time a date come up, like, all right, finally we going to get it this time. That's what I'm like. I don't care about the gossip. Cause I'm going to get this album regardless cause I believe in his song making. He's talented. That's it. If he don't get no promo, I'm going to go hear what's going on. Facts. That's where I am with it. And he got light eyes. But I don't think, I think, are you a eye person? I do. My mother never had light eyes except for me. I used to be very angry about it. Get the color contacts like it used to wear. I work, why the fuck would he need color contacts? Cause the haze was just didn't always get it done for him. Some bitches just laugh at his face. I mean, they go from haze to the green. Sometimes bitches laugh at his face. Get out of here pretty boy sucker. When he goes on Trap of Islands, they go a little blue. That's the water. This nigga's beautiful. Anyway, without talking to anybody, I just, I could, I can imagine people on Atlanta trying to do trying to do the little Uzi Vert. I could see it. I could see it. We out here. Can't get music done. There's a bunch of new niggas over here. It's fucking OG sun is over here running around like, yeah, he's getting me the fuck out of town. Get me out of here. Atlantic people, if I'm wrong, call somebody phone and know me. Not mine, but somebody. Somebody else. Pass the message on that way. Yeah, for sure. All right, what else matters? What else matters? New music? Can we talk about new music? We can do new music. Whatever that two-sees shit is, up there. Oh, that's actually good. Yeah. That's actually good. I don't, I don't. Okay, I gotta relax. He wasn't bored in the read stuff. New music. Oh man. I think the headline for me was, Gangsta Grills was the game. Yes, for sure. Finally. Finally. We got a new game project, game DJ drama, Mike and Keys. What was it? Every, Every movie needs a trailer. Yes. Every movie needs a trailer. I got through, because it was sent way too late, I got through about 11 songs and I am heavily fucking with this. It is old school, like beats. I love this whole album. I listened to the whole thing, the beats. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mike and Keys absolutely by, Smoked it. Game was going crazy. There's a lot of different palettes on here. There's some kind of boom-bap-y stuff. There's some West Coast stuff. Some of the mixes were, his voice sounded a little muddy to me, but maybe that was just me. I'm a little speaker this morning, so let me not pick that apart. This is really dope. Game really doesn't miss on projects. And this one is no exception. I just love hearing a rap. He's just a rapper's rapper to me and every track. Any standouts for y'all? Clown emojis. I love Clown emojis. Clown emojis was the one. Well, can y'all play some of that? And I do want to hear some of the assassin's music. And American's Nightmare. Oh yeah. Oh shit. Oh shit. That sounds really long intro. Yo, Miss, give a hat. You want to buy it? Come on, give it. Come on, give it. Come on, give it. Come on, give it. Give it that mix they feel it all. Come on, give it. Come on, give it. Come on, give it. Come on, give it. Come on, give it. Come on, give it. Clown emojis. DJ, come on. Get the crazy. Get the crazy. You paint your nails. You got a purse from Chanel. And you get your spicy style. You say, clocket, nigga, stop it. My glock's a comfy and my palm heart pocket. Bodies in the bon yarn. I'm stone wall locked in. The long shots, the thong dogs, the stone jar rocking. Niggas win, skirts on earth, they call it fashion. Niggas wear a mosh, you get no love for that shit. Section from the niggas, niggas nigga, why? Faking like these hoes, man. Who raised you niggas up? I was raised by a family of crisps and went blood. Her macadamia so many times I went thug. But you niggas clown emojis. Ho, ho, ho, ho. You said you got a diamond show. Get the fucking crazy. Get the crazy. Get the crazy. All right, that's hard. Yeah, that's hard. This is what you want to mix. Yeah, he sounds his vocal. He don't sound all the way like he's supposed to. Yeah, I really did. That was crazy. This sounds like some roughs. There's a lot of dope shit on something. I like the Americans Nightmare. I like the Quarters of the Shrink. Oh yeah, you wanted the assassination, right? I fuck with that too. I wanted to hear the assassination record. Why don't you choose black? And why are you gonna be truthful with me when you lie to everybody else? Not with me. Production on this shit. Let's start with J. I'm the one who niggas get your money. You lost, you lost. All of a sudden we get silent. Land of the tolerance, we'll murder spread like a pirate sand. Life is a bowling alley. And we just in this bitch with opposite. Just young thugs with shit. No biggie, no bad stop. It's a no-comic-ish. Just empty bottles of lean. We swan, dobbin' in. But I blame the media. This cancer, we let them die in it. And you want to give one life. You can't erase this shit and try it. All right, all right, all right, all right. All right, all right, all right. He went crazy. He got busiest whole joint. He went crazy. Yeah, this album is great. This album is great. I got a little bit more, I was listening to it in the shower and shit, so I don't know the song titles and everything. There was one that was kind of like public. It's on iTunes. Yeah, it is. It didn't pop up in like the new shit. You had to go in. You had to go in. Yeah, search it. Yeah, that's the shit. But I liked it. I liked everything from top to bottom. Yes, it's great. It's great. Lock in with this one when I leave. Get the rest of it. We got a new West Side Gun 3 Pack. I haven't listened to it yet. I just maybe it came out while we were recording. But I am going to check that out. There's a new Sky Zoo album. Narik Sermon Dynamic Duo's album, which is sounds like what it is. And it's actually really, really dope. And another one who I don't understand what's happening with. Lil Baby. Also, he put out a he put out a five pack. I want to say two weeks ago called Middle of the Summer in the winter. Yeah, but he put out Middle of the Summer and then turned right around and dropped the leaks, which had the songs off of that plus eight more records. It's not a deluxe. It's just it's just now it's an album. I don't know. I don't know what's going on. But that's another artist who I don't really understand. Yeah, I don't I don't understand what's happening with Lil Baby right now. But I did get a quick skim through it and it's good music on here. You know, I said the same thing when the EP dropped. Yeah. I played the record with him and G Herbo as a sleeper. Again, if it's good music coming out, I don't whatever y'all are doing with y'all, whether it be a deal or you're working something with the label. That's fine. I don't get it. Just the little bios that it sounded like it was like records that were maybe SoundCloud leaks or the equivalent thereof. There were records that came out that were never ever on the official project. That's what the first one was. I don't I don't I don't get the EP. Then I don't know. I'm always down for more music. So for sure. Can I get I want to give a shout out to be any sequel to just put out a new single. It's really a poor truck, rough single. But it came out two days ago, a little video, but I loved it because the AI was being used once again, the right way to use AI. We get to actually hear beating Seagull's voice. It sounds so clear. It sounded like it was the truth back then. And I thought his verse was dope, too. I thought the whole song was dope. So I was for him. You got you got a little bit. I got a little bit. All right, let's see. Yeah. Fill it up the cash. Well, we'll do the idle speed. We just set the cash. So we got the blueprint. You can't trace us. Niggas just drawn with that reggie like the pastes. It's a bucket. Now we're up around. We're screaming when I'm touched down. I get to the streets. I can't see seven days. Seven weeks. Got to make. Got to leave the streets alone. But I can't. That's dope. I'm not mad at that. That's all right. I love it. I can do that. Great. I'm happy. Gray you say. Gray use. Gray you say. Anymore music or you guys done. Big Bismarck drop. Rest in peace to the great Bismarck. The rest of the might have been a posthumous project. Yeah. He's just had a bunch of beat boxes laying around. It was. Smiles except the little Zane drop something. Oh my God. He be on tiktok live all the time. And if you want it, we could do it in the black 500 with the top down. I know you but. I don't know. Play with the. So let's get away to get away. He still look good too. Hell yeah. Yo. Yo. Yo Mona. I'm gonna find a happy end to spot for women. Yo I got you. I ain't even gonna say what I think you look like. My day. I think it's just an act now. I'm a big time Mona all the day. She had a nigga on the air mattress. Oh. You put something through the air mattress? She pulled the air mattress out of the closet. Had a little something there. Walked to the bathroom. Yo. You put the. First of all off the air mattress. I'm off the air mattress. Right on the poster. Make some noise. Make some noise. Thank you. Gotta do it. Yeah. Because that's awkward when you on the phone. I got two part of the shows for y'all. Okay. All right. All right. Michael says. What up, bud? I am not ready. Hey you guys. Long time J.B.P. fan and ice. Give me some glass house versus a nigga. I need some guidance and advice. My ex is pregnant and it's mine. That's important. We've been on and off again for eight years and each time it escalates. Oh Lord. It's escalated a lot. Right. Two of which times resulted in her and I going to jail on separate occasions. Oh shit. Okay. This last time she was struggling. Bad y'all. And I had been the last arrest. So you said fuck it. I felt as though my actions caused a chain reaction that resulted in her being nearly homeless, addicted and fighting for survival. God damn. Me trying to help moved her in, moved her in with me funding her and thankfully getting her sober. That's dope. However, in that time. Got him a little bit. Daddy went and got a cookie out there. Yeah. Come on. I mean we see where this was going. Yeah. However in that time because the dopehead bitches look good if they in your house. If they in your house and left their habits outside you gonna pop her. Annie Cleetha. Yeah you gonna pop her. Smell like dove. Crazy. Let's see. Tell us from kids. She's showering now when she is. Come on. Look at you girl. You know she's got love you a little extra man. It's like a. I have love for her. Rescue cat. But we are not meant to be together. I guess I'm just asking those who have experience. How do I raise a child with someone I know I don't have a future with. I feel like that's a question. Watch your fucking mouth nigga. It's part of this show shit. And I do want to add I have my own vices as well and I'm not trying to paint her as a drug addict who needed help and is now pregnant. Is that what you're saying? Yeah it's how to get it. Yeah exactly. You didn't paint. You permanent mark wrote it. Yeah that's okay. Both of us wronged each other and now we're connected for life. I appreciate all of you. Call me if you want. I'm him over there so I can take a call. I like that. The questions came too late. It's too late. The baby coming nigga. We just making about the child man. That's the answer. That's it. You can absolutely raise a child with somebody who's not for you. Yes it ain't about you all no more. Just raise the child. Oh I mean yeah you can do that. Or as the other plus about having a baby with a dope baby it's like you can go to court and just say yo look at her. Well she clean now. Oh my God. And he's got his wife. She might go to court and say look at him. Yeah that's true. Hey don't listen to me. Careful what you asked for. Don't listen to me. Distinguished panel y'all fix him up. The next one's a doozy. I'm doing two part of the shows. Okay. Help the brother out. That was it. I don't got no kids. Break up with her. Whatever y'all supposed to be doing don't do that and just raise this quicker you can get to the place where y'all just raising the kid together the quicker you'll be happy. Because if you keep going back and forth with her that's it. I don't care how. I'm gonna say that. Yeah I'll leave that part. Yeah because it's clear this part this is not the person for you y'all going to jail now and shit. Like y'all again it's a kid now. Get away from her as fast as you can and focus only on raising your child together. That's it. Time to grow up. That's all I got for you. I got an elevator coming to work. It was this guy in there on some business casual jeans little light sweater had a handbag and all that. You know I'm talking to him. You know I'm like hey good morning. You look great. He says yeah man. I said 67. You look amazing. What's the secret. I'm such a bitch. You tried to bag him. Dude you thought he was trying to fuck me. He said I'll be honest. Get the shit off. Get the shit off. He says I'll tell you what the secret is. No kids. Thanks. Oh yeah. I said brother. Dad'll do it. He said up up and no wife. Again just some good girlfriends. Gay. I just hate. I'm a German. I'm a German. I'm a German. I'm a German. I'm a German. Shit. You think that's gay. No. I don't think it's gay. I just think that you think he was gay. He was gay because he was too excited to get him complimented by some random nigga in the elevator. Let me think about it. You in the elevator with him you know. Tell him he was a fucking shit. You're the best move. You're the best language. I mean you telling me look good. He ain't got no kids, no wife. Most people with 67 with no wife and no kids. It's usually a reason. That's all I'm saying. Maybe his choice. I'm not gonna lie. I've met a lot of stressed out gay people in my life so I don't know if that theory quite follows. I'm just saying. I haven't met a gay people. It don't be all hunky dory over there. I'm not gonna have any gay people. I'm just saying. If you meet a woman something that's all the time. They meet a dude over 40 who's never been married, never lived with nobody. He's Corey. Oh he's got a kid. He's had a room man. Corey's got a kid. He does. That's what I'm saying. And it's not wrong. I'm just saying. Yeah. Me and Mona think he's gay. He's in the elevator floating with Joe. That's the other thing. He's floating with Joe in the elevator. Yeah. Like come on. Joe's in the elevator floating with me. We're gonna meet for a bag. 67. You look great in the morning. You're the C. Yeah. I'm one of my second part of the show. Yeah. Tell the man he looks great in the elevator. He looks great in the elevator. What's your secret? He looks 67. Yeah. That's all that's. Yeah. Isn't that wrong with it? I like it. Joe might have had it. There's another all that sauce on it. My man might not have said it in that manner. I have another word for why y'all think the way you think. But I've said it too much this month. So I can't. Okay. But it's poor. Shit. This is it. Our pro-gast is on the compliment. I shouldn't have said that. That nigga looked like he was walking to his brand new court. Or old collectible porch. That nigga. You would have said it to him too. He had a scarf. Some gel mousse in his ear. He was killing 67. I'm a huge couple man. I'm joking. I'm a big couple man. I'm a big couple man. I'm a big couple man. This next one is from Crystal. Was that in Crystal? Yeah. It's from Crystal. Crystal says, if your partner lost their memory today and you had to remind them of who you were and y'all's relationship, what would you tell them? And would you leave some stuff out? Can you read that one more time for me? If your partner lost their memory today and you had to remind them of who you were and y'all's relationship, what would you tell them? And would you leave some stuff out? That's deep. I'm going to answer the second part. Yes. I would definitely leave some stuff out. It's a lot shit. It's a million percent. I'm going to tell you. It's some stuff that you'll never know again. It never happened. Sorry. It never happened. It ain't in my phone no more. It only happened because you remember. I don't think I'll leave that out. Me either. That's a tough question. Oh, here comes perfect white man again. Here he goes. I'm going to tell you everything. I'm going to tell you everything. That's free life. If your partner lost their memory today and you had to remind them of who you were. I would try to just move forward. I'm daddy. I would build up a character of a great, great bitch. I would like, why not? You know what I mean? You don't get a second chance of what? Exactly. I'm reminding you all the shit I've done. Thank you and your family. Everything. I call Springwater on a hot day, baby. No, I don't even know how you would possibly remind them who you are because those experiences make y'all. You know what I'm saying? That would be a hard one. See, I think that's what you tell them the best. You don't have to say it out loud, but think about the best moments y'all had. You can't fill them. Yeah, you paint the picture. I'm going to. We actually got the pictures. Hey, look, this is what we did this. Look, let me show you. This is ours, baby. Look, this is it. You ever have someone tell you like a dream? Yeah. Yeah. That shit is boring as fuck. You can't just go tell anyone. Yo, it was beautiful. This is what's at Darn's River Falls and we jumped and then. She ain't got no memory. She ain't been looking for that shit. This sounds like a 90s movie. Remember those movies? The 90s were The Wife or The Huskies? Eternal Sunshine of... That was my shit. That was my shit. I don't know. I'm talking about more sillier, lowbrow movies. The one that comes to mind. The mom loses her. The mom loses her memory and the dad has the whatever, whatever you fucked it up. We did, right? Yeah. Y'all don't know the movies I'm talking about. You didn't have cable. Yes, yo. I didn't have cable. Stop moving that. For real. The cable movies was different than what they did. The little Goldie Horn joint. Goldie Horn. Thank you, ish. He would. He would. It was a Goldie Horn movie. You're Goldie Horn. Where would anyone have bought? That's a little movie. Thank you. And Kurt Russell is actually. Kurt Russell. Silly ass niggas. Crazy. Yeah, that's hard. If my partner lost their memory today. Shit. That is until you. I have perks. That's how you say it. No, no, no. I'm chilling. I thought this was a real good question. I wish I had more to offer on the topic, but I can't even imagine a day. There you go. I can't imagine. No, please. There you go. Get out of here. I'm going. Get out of here. I'm going. Trying to set me up. I think the hard part is like when you, you know, like relationships all got this, not all essentially. Damn, wait. Hold up. So she lost her memory. So she'll know how to. Nothing. That might be muscle memory. Wow. I got another one where it means seem like he trying to diss us, but it does seem like interesting. This might hit different. Who's this? Wesley? Watch your mouth, Wesley. This might hit different given all the recent noise about the pod being anti-academic or whatever. Did y'all see nipping steel just, just paid 14.9 billion for us steel? Everyone's asking about jobs and national security. Nobody's asking where that value actually came from. I did the research. Dog. Not now. Hey, yeah, I agree. I'm not now. I mean, this sounds really compelling, but it's an end of the pod. I'm going to go to the streets for that one. It's Friday, big dog. It's too nerdy for me. Yeah, nah. He went crazy. He did the research. So what's the Wesley thing? We'd have the answer today. Yeah, we're. What do you think about the steel industry? You know what I'm going to ask? That's the JBB. Here's crystal with another one. And then I'm done. We can get out of here. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. I was watching the video. It's a J.B.P. every pod is a strong pod. That's not true but some days we have better numbers. Some days we put up 30s and days we put up 22. But we put in putting up 30 every night. As I was saying it's been really good street. We're killing it. Don't you agree Joe? Yeah, I do think that we've been killing it. I'm sure you got two of them. Each and every one of us. Each and every one of us. Each and every one. Each and every one of us. A tune to play. To get out of here. Yeah, get out of here man. Y'all want me to sing us out? No, no, no, no. Yes. Thank you. Jesus. This is so much jealousy in here. It is. An envy. Reason. This is the end of the world. This is the end of the world. Oh my god. I'm going man. What y'all doing this weekend? Anything fun? Anything I can exploit for entertainment? Tonight? Parties and events. Tonight I'm hitting Eric Abadou. Hershow. Tonight I'm going to Eric Abadou's concert. There you go. I thought the guys could dream. Guys could dream. All right. Where's she at? Brooklyn, Williamsburg Hall. Don't count me out. Yeah. That's close Brooklyn. Are you following her show around? It's not the first time you've been on a show. No. Are you talking to us? I mean, I would but I'm not. But I absolutely would. But me and my wife are going to check that out. Sunday I'm going to see Steven Colbert and Conan O'Brien at Prudential Hall in Jersey. Oh, you got a nice weekend. Prudential Center. Prudential Center. I'm sorry. I don't know if I'm new here. It's the one thing y'all got. Oh shit. I have a show in Tacoma, Washington. Nice. So I'm talking about. You going to hit the shoulder shimmy on them? I'll be there. No, out there I mean. Oh, always. Yes. Like how do you come to the stage at your shows? A normal walk? Do you dance? Do you turn it up? I promise you I'll come out. They stand up. I turn around and shake my ass every show. Walking out that show? I just thought I was going to stop this. Because I had your phone in my head and I'm looking at the video of me coming out and then all I can see is my feet. And I'm like, just stop. Like why are you doing this? But the Reddit boys like when you shake that shit. Oh, please. When you shake them legs. Hey, oh shit. Back region? Y'all ain't right. He ain't shit. No, no legs. Them little legs. Going boy. Newer couch. What are y'all doing for the weekend? Anything y'all can share? Damn thing this weekend, man. I wish I was having that type of weekend. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm burnt out. I'm not doing shit. You're going to make money. Can't be proud of that. Yeah, you can't. Yeah, I ain't made it at all. You can make some money this weekend too. I'll put the calling. Bill Pay. Just don't say nothing. Bill Pay. Yeah, I ain't even listened to him. Pay for some of that. You got to take a number off the elevator? In the corner. Shit. Night reverse. Yeah, man. Yeah, it's good. Do you have any friends? Park, what you on? I've got a couple of events and parties I got to go to. I'm tired of events and parties, but tis the season. So fuck it. Tis the season. No, I'm not getting paid for these parties. They're like house warming and birthday parties. And other shit that you don't really want to go so much. Got to go? I mean, I want to, but I don't want to. It's cold out now. It's all over for that run around shit. But, Cory, I want to ask what you're doing, but you better have bought the sign to do not disturb. Put a sock on the door knob, man. Yeah, you do. You're tough. Sock on the door knob? Old school. Wow. That's old school. That's for the niggas that was fucking a lot. Or just niggas that lived alone? Had a couple of hours. It's all right, though. Listen, man, this part was great. Hopefully you all have enjoyed this broadcast. What are you doing this weekend? Fuck. You're going to get to dodge the fun. Yeah, what's the line up? Fun reporting. I said my dad's the next ticket, so I'm chilling. Oh, OK. I'm chilling. I ain't got too much going on. Niggas said, what's the line up? What's the line? That's a shame. One day I'm going to expand mine. Hey, Joe. It's a shame because you knew the line up. Word. No, he know it. Like, oh, actually, you're a dude. I should try tomorrow. He knew exactly how I did tonight. That's horrible, too. I'm a change. I'm a change. Do you know the line up, though? Yes, he knows. I can't even lie. I can't even lie. You know, Alex does the album releases and single releases every week. You got to do that for the strip clubs. 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