Daily Dose of Dana

BREAKING: Amanda Batula and West Wilson CONFIRM Relationship, Ciara Miller UNFOLLOWS Both & More!

63 min
Mar 31, 20262 months ago
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Summary

Dana discusses the confirmed relationship between Amanda Batula and West Wilson from Bravo's Summer House, analyzing the scandal's impact on cast dynamics, Sierra Miller's heartbreak, and comparisons to previous reality TV controversies. The episode also covers Tiger Woods' opioid DUI arrest, Kim Zolciak custody battle, and a viral thread about embarrassing childhood photos.

Insights
  • Reality TV relationship scandals gain traction through social media speculation before official statements, with influencers and fan accounts driving narrative momentum
  • The strategic timing and coordination of joint PR statements can paradoxically increase skepticism when denials have recently been made on public platforms
  • Multi-person relationship entanglements in tight-knit reality TV casts create cascading social consequences including unfollows, public positioning, and friendship fractures
  • Audience perception of infidelity differs based on relationship status (married vs. dating) and friendship duration, affecting the severity of reputational damage
  • Celebrity substance abuse narratives shift when concrete evidence (pills, toxicology) emerges, moving from speculation to accountability discussions
Trends
Reality TV cast members using coordinated Instagram statements to control narrative around relationship confirmationsSocial media unfollows and blocks as public signals of alliance-taking in reality TV dramaRetrospective analysis of social media posts and video clips to identify relationship timeline cluesCross-franchise reality TV commentary and comparison (Summer House vs. Vanderpump Rules scandals)Celebrity substance abuse documentation in streaming documentaries as cultural reckoning formatCustody battles in reality TV becoming public legal disputes with media coverageViral social media threads about nostalgic/embarrassing personal content as engagement drivers
Topics
Reality TV relationship scandals and PR managementSocial media evidence analysis in celebrity relationshipsCast dynamics and friendship fractures in ensemble reality showsInfidelity narratives in married vs. dating relationshipsCelebrity substance abuse and DUI arrestsCustody disputes in reality TV personalitiesBravo franchise interconnections and crossover dramaPublic perception management through coordinated statementsInfluencer and fan account role in spreading celebrity rumorsStreaming documentary impact on celebrity narratives
Companies
Bravo
Summer House and Vanderpump Rules franchises discussed; primary focus of episode's reality TV scandal analysis
Netflix
Lamar Odom documentary released on platform; discussed as cultural commentary on addiction and relationships
Instagram
Primary social media platform for relationship confirmation statements, unfollows, and evidence analysis
Page Six
Celebrity news outlet that published photos and reporting on Amanda/West relationship confirmation
Daily Mail
Published Kim Zolciak custody battle statements and responses
X (formerly Twitter)
Platform where Dave Portnoy and others commented on Summer House relationship news
People
Amanda Batula
Confirmed relationship with West Wilson; divorcing husband Kyle; central figure in scandal analysis
West Wilson
Confirmed relationship with Amanda Batula; previously dated Sierra Miller; subject of relationship timeline analysis
Sierra Miller
West's ex; best friend of Amanda; publicly unfollowed both after relationship confirmation; emotional impact discussed
Kyle Cook
Amanda's husband; divorcing; portrayed as dismissive and unfaithful; contrasted with West's attentiveness
Jesse Solomon
West's friend; allegedly used as cover for Amanda-West relationship; compared to Tom Schwartz strategically
Lindsay Hubbard
Long-time Amanda supporter; now publicly supporting Sierra with Instagram posts after relationship confirmation
Paige Sorbo
Previously on show; gave Amanda relationship advice; expected to defend Sierra at reunion
Tiger Woods
Arrested for DUI with opioid pills found in possession; discussed as substance abuse case study
Kim Zolciak
Involved in custody battle with ex Kroy; accused of parental mismanagement; publicly feuding
Kroy Biermann
Filed for sole custody of four children against Kim Zolciak; claims parental negligence
Lamar Odom
Subject of Netflix documentary about addiction; previously married to Khloe Kardashian
Nancy Guthrie
Missing person case; discussed as potentially staged kidnapping based on lack of home assault evidence
Dave Portnoy
Posted on X that Brianna Chicken Fry told him about Amanda-West relationship in February
Brianna Chicken Fry
Allegedly informed Dave Portnoy of Amanda-West relationship at Super Bowl in February
Andy Cohen
Hosted Watch What Happens Live where West and Amanda denied relationship rumors
Quotes
"West and Amanda are in love. Okay, this is not just a little hookup. West and Amanda are in love."
DanaOpening segment
"There's something about this one that almost hits harder for me than Scandavall. Maybe it's because we're three years out of Scandavall."
DanaEarly analysis
"We've shown up for each other as friends over the years. Our connection grew out of a genuine, longstanding friendship, which made it especially important for us to approach this with care."
Amanda Batula and West Wilson joint statementOfficial statement
"If it made Amanda happy, I think I just would have to vote. Yeah."
Kyle Cook on Watch What Happens LivePre-confirmation interview
"I believe she was, unfortunately, probably murdered or something awful happened outside of the home. No signs of assault when two, three, maybe four men come into your home and take you out of your bed in the dead of night with no shoes."
Dana on Nancy Guthrie caseFinal segment
Full Transcript
Rebel Squadron attack! You'll never win! John! Are you playing with the kids Star Wars Kinder Surprise? Without them? But I am their father. Well, as their father, you can explain that you've opened their favourite treat. With Kinder Surprise, you and your kids can play, explore, discover and grow together. One intergalactic adventure at a time. Pick up a Star Wars Kinder Surprise today. Also available in Easter Egg size! It's your Daily Dose of Dana on Tuesday, March 31st, the day before April Fool's, where I actually thought, are we getting fooled? But no. We have a breaking news alert. Everything I talked about yesterday on the show came true. Yes, it's official. Amanda and West from Summer House have made a joint statement. And guys, they are in love. Okay, this is not just a little hookup. West and Amanda are in love. What does this mean? Why is it such a big deal? What does this mean for the future of Summer House and Bravo? We're going to get into all of that. I also am going to touch on other stories like a Nancy Guthrie update, a Tiger Woods update, Ken Zolciak, shockingly, is in the news, and a few other things including an amazing thread that is just as good, if not better than yesterday. We'll get into all of that. You guys make sure to hit subscribe and like below as you enter the show. It's your Daily Dose of Dana. So, are you guys as shocked as I am? Like when I tell you, so I'm going to just out my situation this morning. I woke up this morning and the first thing I did was I opened up Instagram, started scrolling, and then you know how on Instagram they give you threads, like popular threads or whatever, that maybe you'll be interested in your Instagram feed. So it was about the Kyle, Amanda, Wes, Sierra drama. So I jump over to threads and the first thing I see on threads, the algorithm is just serving me one after another, after another, after another post about Amanda and about how effed Amanda is for doing this. This is before the official statement. This is just when there was a rumor going on. So I woke up, got out of bed, walked downstairs, got my coffee, and then I texted my people, DMZ, right? I texted Zach and Molly and I said, guys, I think they're going to try to cancel Amanda or I think Amanda is canceled. And I was told from both of them that this just does not have the cultural relevance like Scandavall does. So let's talk about why this is, where this is, is it like a Scandavall? Do you think it's that big of a deal in the Bravo community or in the entertainment community? Or do you think it is not a big deal? Why does anyone care? I tend to think there's something about this one and I don't know what it is, you guys. There's something about this one that almost hits harder for me than Scandavall. Maybe it's because we're three years out of Scandavall. I mean, that happened what exactly three years ago? That was March 2023, right? So maybe I just feel like removed from it. But for me, where I live in my brain, this feels almost more shocking than what happened with Raquel for so many reasons. And I don't know what it is about this one. And we'll get into the ups and downs and like the details because obviously we have different dynamics in this one. We have a marriage rather than not a marriage, right? We have a friend like for 10 years, for eight years where you're living together every summer versus someone that you just party with. Like there's a lot of different things going on here. It's also affecting four people, whereas I feel like Scandavall was just Raquel and Kyle and I'm sorry, Raquel and Tom and Ariana. So let's get into all of it. Okay, where do I start? And I'm curious from you guys, maybe I should put on a poll in the comments to see what you guys think. Because I think to me, I think it's going to actually hit stronger in a weird different way. And I honestly think I just have a different feeling about it than them. Okay, so I'm going to actually go to YouTube right now. I have to go into another computer to do it. And I'm going to create a poll and I want to know your guys's idea. Guys's, I hate that word, your feelings on where it is versus Scandavall. Okay, add, engage with your audience. I'm going to engage with you guys. Start a poll. Is this more shocking than Scandavall? Start poll. Let me know that you guys see it. Okay, so let's get into the details. Now, for anyone like MomOBig here who has no idea who these people are, just stick around. Because I think you're going to be very, very fascinated and interested by this story just because of the relatability. And I think that that's like a big, big thing. So for me, Summer House has always been my show from the beginning. Okay, I loved Summer House more than I think any other reality show. So A, we have that. We're on season 10 and Summer House has shown Kyle and Amanda's relationship throughout the 10 years. So let me show you visuals so you guys have an idea of who I'm talking about for anyone that doesn't know. We have season 10. I think this is the current picture. So small. It's not a good one. Let me find like a really good current picture. Summer House season 10 cast. Okay. Let's meet the Summer House season 10 cast for anyone that doesn't know. Summer House is a reality show that happens every single summer for 10 seasons and it shows up in the Hamptons. And it's a genius, genius show because it takes all these city kids out of the city, takes them to this gorgeous home that they can't afford probably if they weren't on the show, at least they couldn't at the beginning. And then they party their ass off for 48 straight hours. I love the show. I love the show. I love the show. I love the show. I love the show. I love the show. I love the show. I love the show. I love the show. I love the show. I love the show. I love the show. I love the show. I love the show. I love the show. I love all the episodes when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home when I traveled home an F boy full through and through, and he would bring other girls and hook up with other girls and then come back with Amanda and Amanda would come over to the house. And then starting season two, like Amanda became a series regular. She was always at the house, always at the house. And at the beginning, Amanda is very, very, like she's not to me. I don't love Amanda. I've never loved Amanda. Only this last season have I actually seen a side of Amanda that I'm like more into, but I think we know why now. Amanda has always been a little bit of a wet blanket, in my opinion, from the beginning. And actually, I think a lot of people have maybe felt that, but because Kyle has been this like cheating jerk off this entire time, everyone has no choice but to respect or to kind of take Amanda side. Amanda's big gripe for years and years with her husband. We've seen him admit to cheating multiple times and she still stayed with him, got engaged on the show and then went through a wedding, even though like weeks before the wedding, she's sitting there on the couch crying to page the Sorbo about, you know, how she's freaking out and she's not sure if this is the one. And Paige, if you guys don't remember that really famous scene where Paige basically says Amanda, it is so much easier to call off a wedding than then go through an unhappy marriage and then try to end it 10 years down the line. They were never good. Okay. Kyle and Amanda had moments of fun, moments of good, but in general they were always based on a bad foundation. And the most recent gripe that she's really had with him over the last couple seasons is he likes to party too much. He goes out, he gays out. He goes out too late. He stays out until four, five, six AM sometimes. He drinks like a fish. Now he's become a DJ. And she's like, I didn't marry a DJ. And this is what season 10 is really focused on. Season 10 is really, if you look into the trailers and stuff, it's about the demise of the relationship of Kyle and Amanda. And that to me is really fascinating to watch. We're watching it happen live on the show. Now, who else is involved in this, in this little three-sum? Of course we have some extra characters here, but the four-sum, we have Sierra. Now Sierra has been on the show since, I don't know, season four, maybe whenever Luke came on the show, Luke, our woodhunter, woodhucker. Okay. Luke came on, Hottie Luke. And he brought Sierra as a girl. He was kind of dating at the time. Now Sierra since then has hooked up with Austin from Southern Charm. And she started dating West and both of them have screwed her over. Actually Luke, I think even screwed her over too. Oh my gosh, copper. I got a five day old baby girl in my hand, hoping from the hospital after C-section. What's her name? Mazel. That is so exciting. I want a little baby girl to hold. If you want to bring her over all, just hold her while I do the show like this. Okay. Sh, sh, sh, sh, sh, like that. Congrats copper. Okay. So back to this. Sierra is, she's beautiful. She's a nurse who I don't think nurses at all anymore and a model. And she, to be honest, my 1000% feelings, and I always keep it real with you guys is I actually never really cared for Sierra in previous seasons because she had that like page bed rotting energy. She was just laying in bed all day long, every day. She didn't want to do shit. And she was kind of negative and she was kind of like a, they were kind of boar snores. And to me, that just wasn't ideal energy. She kind of seemed, um, if you guys remember that there was all that drama that she had with Danielle, who I also can't stand, but whatever. So there was always a little bit of a negative vibe from Sierra in my eyes, maybe not yours in mine. And I understand that not everyone's going to agree with that. Now, this last season, when Paige has not been in the picture, I have been obsessed with Sierra. Sierra is honestly my favorite girl in that house this season. I find her to be so much more alive and energetic and involved and ready to go and ready to hang. And I just really enjoy Sierra this season. Two seasons ago, not last summer's, um, not season nine, but season eight West shows up at the house. Now who is West? West is prime jackoff of this story. This is West Wilson. So we have West and actually he came with also this, uh, you know, goof Jesse Solomon. Guess I'll start. That's a whole other thing. He has a singing career. He's coming on tour here in Los Angeles and I'm thinking maybe we should go. Anyway, West Wilson shows up. And the first moments that I met West on the show, I fell in love with him, not in a way that I was in love with him. Like I think you're sexy and hot. I just loved his energy. I thought West was fun, funny, uh, cool. Like he just didn't really care. He was just cool. And he had always talked about his mom and how his mom had this amazing career. And he was very respectful of his mom. And I think his mom was an OBGYN or something like that. I just really liked West. Just Jesse too. I actually liked both of them, but compared to the guys at the past in the summer house, I was like, West is, he's cool. Like he's got it together. He was like a professional dude. He had jobs and whatever. So he and Sierra start hooking up season eight. And it turns into a full blown relationship. He even takes her home after the season ends. He takes her home to meet mom and dad. And then somehow between season eight filming and season eight reunion, we have a breakup. And in the reunion of that season, he was just a mess. He became very awkward and quiet. And Sierra was incredibly hurt by him. And then Paige, you know, Paige is like girls, girls, girls, girls, girl. He, she came out and she was pissed. She was pissed at West because Sierra was in love with West. When I say was, I have more to that story. Sierra was in love with West. Remember Sierra? West. OK, if I can even fast find a little clip, maybe the only thing is I'm just so nervous about any, any times there is a like I show anything from the show because I always feel like it. They always pull me on Bravo always like gets you for a copyright. So I don't want to risk it. But West and Sierra were like a Bravo couple. They break up. West becomes like the unliked one while Sierra is, you know, this was last season, she was back where Sierra. Sierra came back last season and Paige was still on the show. But the series, the season was really focused on Paige and her relationship with Craig. There was a lot of focus on that. And there was a lot of focus on Jesse Solomon, the other goofball guess all star who was started to date another girl that was in the house. She was a one and done girl. I can't even remember her name now. You guys let me know. So then. In this season, Paige and Craig are gone, right? Because she broke up with him. She's off the show. And every single moment in the trailer and every single part of the show that we've seen so far is focused more on the demise of Kyle and Amanda's relationship, which we then find out that they announced their divorce after the show had already started airing. We're not shocked by that. It's very obvious. They really, really don't like each other. In fact, I've never seen two people that I think hate each other more. Actually, no, I take it back. I've never seen a girl hate her husband more than I see Amanda hate Kyle on this season. And if you rewatch it, yes, Lexi was the one hit wonder from last season. If you rewatch this week's or this season's episodes from season from episode one of season 10, you will without a doubt see the energy being Kyle saying, why is why does Amanda hate me? Why does she not want to be around me? Why does she not want to hang like she chooses to hang out with anyone else but me? She doesn't want to drive to the Hamptons with him. She does not like her husband. She doesn't want to sleep with him. She doesn't want to have sex with him or sleep with him. She doesn't want to shower with him. She doesn't want anything to do with her husband. OK, there is no question about it. And Kyle, as shitty as he's been as a husband, as bad of a listener as he has been as a husband, he is still, even though he still says mean things. He's not perfect. He's not off the hook. He definitely emotionally and verbally says some crazy shit to her. He is still pining for her in this season. He still says, I am really I like I care about you, Amanda. And I'm really off when we fight, whereas they fight and she's like moving on. She doesn't give a shit. She does not care about Kyle season 10. And as I said yesterday, pull up the receipts, but do do do do do pull up the receipts where I said yesterday that there is 1000 percent. Something going on with Amanda to make her finally decide I am done with Kyle. And she has had a million reasons to be done with Kyle in previous seasons. But what was the final straw? She fell in love. And if it wasn't love, she fell in lust. And if it wasn't lust, she fell into a severe crush to West Wilson. And this is playing out right in front of our faces on season 10, but it's not public because not neither them or any of their friends. And at this point, we don't know when it started, but they are not admitting it either to themselves and definitely not their friends. Because if West and Amanda hook up, it is an implosion of the summer house franchise and the interest, the group dynamic. Her husband, she's at this point when they're filming season 10, they're married. And he's friends with West and her best friend in the house, Sierra. Now, what happens between Sierra and West this season? What we're watching right now play out is that Jesse Solomon, guess I'll start. He goes to West and he says, I'm kind of like feeling Sierra. Now, I have no idea where in the world this is coming from. I can see that West and Jesse and Sierra are very comfortable together. Remember, this is Jesse. I can see that they're very close. Jesse and Sierra, I feel like they're each other's kind of like safe person. So it's really strange when a few episodes ago, Jesse goes over to West and he says, you know, how would you feel if I hooked up with Sierra, your ex? And Jesse thinks it's, I mean, West thinks it's freaking weird. And it bugs him enough that he even says something later to Jesse. And then it gets around. It gets back from Lindsay Hubbard, Hubhouse, our girl. She goes then and tells Sierra, yeah, Jesse said he wanted to make out with you. And she goes over to Jesse and says, you know, I'm not going to be your collateral. As a joke. So Sierra is like, uh-uh, you are not using me as collateral, she says. And she goes over to Jesse at a group dinner that we just saw two weeks ago, which was a phenomenal episode. And it was a group dinner where all of them were sitting there and Sierra openly and then she talked about the fact that as a black woman on the show, I go through this show differently. I am seen differently. I am experienced differently. And I date white men and it's like they're not playing me well. And it's not working out well for me. And I have to be very aware of that when I am going on the show. And KJ and Mia, who are two other black cast members are very much in agreement with her and as you know, a show that's predominantly white, you have to take their word for it when they say that because they're going through the show in a different way. She is dated now three white guys on Bravo and all three of them basically have after over. Okay. Next. In that scene, this is like two or three weeks ago. Amanda is sitting next to West. I'm sorry, Sierra. Besties, right? Besties. And across the table from Sierra is Jesse Solomon, who is the guy that just asked to hook up with her as a joke. And then next to Jesse is West, who's across from Amanda. Now, Amanda is sitting at the corner of the table and Kyle's in the corner up next to her and she's not even looking at Kyle. She literally has zero interest in Kyle. He asks her for a sip of her martini and she's like, depends. Are you going to be nice to me? It's like I am nice. Okay. So you have this dynamic where she is interested right here. You guys are asking who's the third? It was Luke. She came into the show dating Luke Woodworker or Hottie Luke. Okay. Next. Now. And by the way, thank you guys so much. We have a bunch of people here watching. So make sure to hit like while you're here and subscribe. Please. Thank you so much. Okay. In that scene, Sierra says, and actually face reality, I have to thank her so much because she always posts these amazing receipts. She says, wait, what is this? Page six posted Sierra Miller had a dramatic reaction to the shocking news that her best friend Amanda Batula is dating her ex, Wes Wilson. In a photo obtained by page six, the summer house star sat on a New York city sidewalk in a white dress. She was comforted by an unidentified male who crouched down and held her by the arms. You guys, whoa, this is crazy dramatic. The pic was taken one minute before Batula and Wilson shared a public statement confirming their relationship. Guys. That's really sad. If this is a real picture and this was legit, like this morning, that makes me sad. So, okay. So face reality pulled up this one. Clip where all my, my searches on Instagram are like pages of Sorbo, Wes Wilson, Amanda Batula, Kyle Cook. That's all I care about. Hold on. This was the, this was the scene where, where Sierra is telling, Sierra is telling Jesse at the dinner about how she doesn't want to be used as collateral to like just be used as a woman. And Wes starts taking notes. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. This was my, don't talk to the press. Wes can tell you that too. Yeah. Wes can tell you first thing. How embarrassing in publishing an article to reiterate the fact that you don't like me anymore. I'll say one thing though. I empathized a lot with how our relationship ended and I did a lot of like interviews. I don't think I just knew any better, but it is gross to talk about the relationship publicly and I don't think I like really grasped that until I was on the other side of it when she was doing that to him, you and me. And I just want you to know I like see you way more than I did prior. Wow. And Amanda's face while he's giving that apology is so obvious now to me because she's looking at him like, good job, Wes. Good job, Wes. Because in my mind, she and Wes are very, very chummy at this point. I don't know if they're hooking up yet, but they have feelings for each other and she cares very much about Wes and Sierra liking each other because in her mind, if Sierra hates Wes, that's bad for Wes. That's bad for her. That's bad for the entire dynamic. She wants to still all hang out. She still wants to be all friendly. Now this scene. Hold on. Wait, where is the notes? It's a beginning here. Don't use Sierra as collateral. Say that out loud. Don't use Sierra as collateral. Wes is getting a great night's. Wes must have lost those notes that he took about don't take Sierra as collateral. It's pretty crazy if you think about it. So let's get into what happened this morning and then go backwards and talk about so many other things. And this is really, you guys. I just, the more I think about it, the more I'm just so surprised by the whole thing. It's kind of really actually bombed. I mean, bumming me out. Face reality in case you want to know how she feels about it says worm with a mustache and his diabolical girlfriend. Face reality says predictions for the reunion timelines will not add up. The interrogation from Lindsay Hubbard will be at the level of a high powered defense attorney. Kyle will cry more than Sierra. Sierra will eat them all alive as she should reunion films in just over three weeks. What are we supposed to do until then? Um, been super. Is she? It's so interesting. She goes also, please spare me with the scissor and scant of all comments. I know it's different. Arguably, I think it's even worse, especially if it started before last summer as the evidence in my Amanda and West highlight suggests 1000% you guys, I don't know why I feel this is worse. So this morning everyone, like rumors are out of fever pitch and I go online last night and I post that if they are not actually together, this is even worse because they're letting the whole Bravo and like world feel 10 times invested and upset. And if it's not real, why would you ever go through that? Why would you ever put yourself through this like reputation downfall? Just for shits and giggles. And a lot of people are saying, Oh no, Amanda did respond. And she did actually in Morgan P talks real the other day, Morgan said something about, Hey, West is just your bestie. There's no way that this is true. And Amanda commented, thank you. So Amanda was denying it up until just a couple of days ago. And West, if you guys don't remember when West was on watch, what happens live on March 26th of this year. So this is five days ago when I showed it to you guys yesterday, West said to Andy Cohen about the rumors of him and Amanda. He's like, no, we're just friends. We're just friends. And like, I'm just showing her the streets. I care about her as a person. So just last week, they were both lying to our faces. And of course they were lying to the people around them. They were lying to their friends. So all of this is just so freaking insanely shady because it was all happening behind the scenes and it was all happening secretly. And people, there's eyes on the street everywhere you go now. And you can't, you kind of can't get away with anything in the world except abducting Nancy Guthrie. And so people are starting to see this and people are starting to write in blinds to people like Dumois, right? Dumois is the first that posted about it in the beginning of March. And people were freaking out. Like there's no way, there's no way that's true. But when there's smoke, there's fire. And we always say this, when there's smoke, there's fire. And so 1000%, Dumois posted this picture as well of the, of Sierra sitting on the floor. I mean, this picture was taken from far ass away. It's so gross, in my opinion. Okay. So this morning, West and Amanda at the exact same time, post an Instagram story that say the exact same words in different font, but the exact same words. Here we go. We've seen the growing online speculation. So while this is still very new, we wanted to provide some clarity. Still very new. What, like two days old? It was never our intention to purposely hide anything given the complicated relationship dynamics involved and the scrutiny that comes with being on a reality show. We needed a little space to process things privately before speaking on it. We've shown up for each other as friends over the years. Remember, they both wrote this. It's not just West saying, I've shown up for Amanda. This is West and Amanda saying, we've shown up for each other as friends over the years through all the highs and lows, meaning through your divorce with Kyle and through your relationship and breakup with Sierra. Cool, cool. And what's developed recently was the last thing either of us expected. Our connection grew out of a genuine, longstanding friendship, which made it especially important for us to approach this with care. As our feelings evolved, we wanted to take time to understand exactly what we were feeling. We also recognize that this has had an impact beyond just us. Yeah. And never wanted our actions to cause any hurt or to be perceived as careless. We truly appreciate the understanding and the respect as we navigate this. OK. Why is this such a shocking big deal? A lot of people are very, very confused because they're saying Sierra and West weren't together. Well, what we're seeing right now play out in this current part of the season of Summerhouse is, and I've said this before, that Sierra is massively in love with West. It is as obvious as you can make it. If you are helling-keller, you can tell that West, that Sierra loves West in this season. There is absolutely no way that you are watching this season of Summerhouse and you don't see it, feel it and know it. And West is playing with her because there's one night where they all go wine tasting all day and he is shmammered like he is as wasted as people can be. And he's sitting on a chair next to Sierra and they're playing like spin the bottle, the whole group, and he starts to slowly go over to her and touch her and whatever. And he's like staring at Amanda the whole time. Amanda is across the couch and they're playing and he's like getting closer and touching her and like it's it's effing with Sierra. So one night they're standing over Mac and cheese at 3 AM in the kitchen. And he's like, I'm scared because I don't know how to talk to you because he knows that what happened with their relationship last time that they were together totally took a turn for the worst, right? And he became like the most hated guy on Bravo for a few minutes there. And she's like, you should just talk to me. We should try to talk. We need to talk about this. And she even went to I don't know if it was Mia or whoever the next day and even told them about this relationship and this conversation with West. And I'm telling you, I honestly want to say she told Amanda and Amanda's goal this entire season is to make Sierra and West friendly. She's not necessarily saying that they need to hook up, but she's trying desperately to get a man to get Sierra and West to become friends. Because in her mind, all that's important when you're loving someone, go back to yourself in college, high school or even in your 20s, 30s, whatever, when you have a crush on someone and your best friend hates their guts. What's your goal? Your goal is to make your best friend and the guy that you have a crush on like each other. So we can be a happy family and all go out and hang out. And I have more reasons to hang out with this guy. Well, I am obsessed with him and have a crush on him. And we can secretly like touch each other in the hallway and laugh together and party together and maybe travel together and do all these things together. And it won't be weird because my friend doesn't hate him. I'll be able to go out with West for drinks because my friend doesn't hate him. Jesse Solomon, where does Jesse Solomon come into this? Jesse Solomon and Amanda were spotted having drinks together about two weeks ago. They were having martinis together and Jesse even made a joke saying he posted it. He was like, we're having martinis and I know that you're going to think like the next thing is that people are going to think we're dating. This is why I think Jesse Solomon is the Tom Schwartz. Last night on our Instagram Live, Zack Peter said he's the Tom Schwartz. And I was like, one thousand percent. Because he knew he has to. He's besties with West. He knew that West had feelings for Amanda and he knew that Amanda had feelings for West and the rumors were starting to swirl and people are starting to talk about it. And Dumois was starting to post. So what happened? Go out with Amanda. So it shows that she has drinks with guys alone all the time. It's not that weird. So what if she's with West alone and having a drink? Who cares? She's also doing that with Jesse, which then goes back to the Watch What Happens Live statement that West had. Yeah, this happens all the time when she hangs out with other friends. Like there's always rumors. Huh. Now, even months ago, West and Amanda, like probably two months ago, West and Amanda were hanging out all the time posting on social media with a group of people, a group of like West's friends. They're younger. They're definitely not like Amanda and Kyle's friends. They're West's friends. And she's posting all kinds of things with them. She was spending all of her time with West. But just as friends. So Sierra and Amanda have been tight this entire time. They've been really tight. And then all of a sudden Sierra and Amanda, it hits fever pitch on March 24th, I think, when they're supposed to do an Amazon Live together with olive vitamins. And all of a sudden they decided to X-na on that for whatever reason they told Oli, we can't do it together. We're going to have to do it separately. So they did that separately. That was weird. Then they realized people realize that Sierra hasn't been liking any of Amanda's posts for the last week or two. Weird number two. And then we noticed that Sierra unfollowed Amanda Betula swim, which is Amanda's business, weird number three. And then this morning, the joint statements come out and Sierra unfollows and I think blocks Amanda and West because Amanda is no longer following Sierra either. Now, Mia, who is a new cast member this season, she also has unfollowed Amanda and posted a picture of Sierra. Lindsay Hubbard, who has been in Amanda's corner with Kyle for years, has come out now and posted a picture yesterday or the day before of her and Sierra. I don't believe anyone can take Amanda and West side in this moment, maybe down the line. Now, Kyle was asked and I'll show you guys really fast. Kyle was asked about this on a Watch What Happens live episode. He was asked, what do you think you would do if this was in fact true? And hold on one second. Let me find it. It's in my stories. Kyle was asked about what do you think? And let me just pull it up. Virtual reality reposted it. And this is how Kyle handled the rumors, but this was probably three weeks ago or something. The action to the West and Amanda rumors. I mean, I kind of thought I was outrageous, like, you know, for it to go as long as it has in the news cycles, kind of shocking. But no, I don't think there's any merit to it. If you found out that it was true, would you be upset? I think it would certainly catch me by surprise and feel a little reckless. And I think I'd probably be the last person people would be worried about. I think Sierra would probably have something to say. But if it made Amanda happy, I think I just would have to vote. Yeah. What was your reaction to the West and Amanda? I don't know if that's going to hold true now. I wonder if if that would kind of like if people would change their opinions about that now. I think in my mind, the fact that there's an official statement takes it to a whole new level because to put out an official statement and PR, people, please jump in here and let me know to put out an official statement on the on the course of your relationship. Like they're in love. This is not a hookup. This was not a one time thing. This was not a like we thought we were going to like maybe try it and we're not going to do it. This was. We're together like we are in love. This is giving. Leanne Rimes and Eddie Sivri in vibes. I'm trying to think like who else it's giving. And here's what I have to say about that. So some people are saying good for them. Let them live it up. Let them be their part. Like let them try. What if it actually will work in this and that? Sure. Like it better work for their sanity and for their happiness and for their, you know, everything, it better work. But. Yeah, because if it doesn't work and they just imploded their entire reputations, then you have an even bigger problem. So I'm really hoping that it did actually work. But if you go back, if you go through the West Instagram of it all in Amanda, too, they were leaving clues left and right. For example, wearing each other's hats, wearing each other's sweaters, wearing each other is, da, da, da, da. OK, so we got a lot of that. It was a lot of the lightning bolts from last season. I mean, from the Tom and Amanda, Tom and Rick health thing. But also if you go through West Instagram over the last and keep. Let's keep an eye on West Instagram. Right now he has four hundred twenty eight thousand followers. Let's see if he loses any or gains any. If you go through his Instagram through the course of the last few months, he's posting. Major, major clues. OK. First picture here. I mean, no one would think anything of it because come on, they are definitely all living together, but he's posting all about this. This was two weeks ago. He's definitely hooking up with Amanda here. OK. In this one, he posts a picture. This is in in the summer house and she says she commented. No, I can't see it. That's interesting. Did she delete her comment? She said, get out of my room in this one. And then over. Here in this video, this is a video where she is there. He and his I think it's his podcast host are doing some. I just want to make sure I'm sharing the screen and I'm not pulling a sack. They're doing some sort of recipe, a smash burger situation. She's not only commenting, begging for the bloopers. Real she's actually there when they're filming it. She's there and she's hanging out with them and she tries the burger at the very end. So she's she's in his space like often, right? Then in this one, it says his first picture, his second picture on his scroll is Weston, Amanda. OK. Weston, Amanda, he posts that right there. The first comment from Taste of Reality, you're such a good friend. Let's talk about that. How about this one? There are many reasons to like this man, but I'm pretty sure in the last episode, when Kyle was insulting Amanda and telling her to get a personality, you can hear West say his name to get him to stop. Another big green flag. You guys just a couple of weeks ago, no one had any idea. And then the final picture that I just thought was hilarious. Let me see if I can find it. I don't know where it is. I don't want to spend too much time looking. Oh, this one says, hold on tight. I mean, what kind of foreshadowing is this? So what do I think? I think that Amanda fell in love with West at some point between seasons before the summer. Go watch, go rewatch season 10 and you'll see it right off the bat. Episode one. There's feelings there. So sometime between summer of season nine and summer of season 10 filming, she started hanging out with him more and she developed feelings. And it may have been just the fact that West started showing her a little bit of love and attention, stuff that she wasn't feeling she was getting from Kyle, which then made Amanda start to fucking despise her husband, despise him. She hates him in the season. So now she's so over him and she's getting. And I don't want to say this because a lot of I don't want to say this in a way that you guys are going to think that I'm create like she's pushing Kyle to be an asshole to her. But honestly, no man would handle the way that Amanda speaks to them. Also, no woman should handle the way Kyle speaks. But no man should handle the way could it would be good if their wives were as rude and mean to them, especially on camera. I mean, unless you're just like a total wallflower walk all over me, I don't care kind of energy, golden retriever energy, which is 1000 percent not who Kyle is. Men like and I think women too. So don't I'm not taking away from the fact that Kyle's a dick to Amanda sometimes. But you can see that Kyle is like what the fuck, Amanda. So Amanda is being awful to Kyle. And then Kyle reacts badly to Amanda. And then Kyle is the jerk because Amanda, for some reason, in the Bravo universe, is just allowed to be horrible to her husband too. And I don't think that Kyle is a good guy. I'm just saying they're both mutually awful to each other. Kyle more than Amanda, in my opinion. So I think what happened was she started to have feelings for West. They started to connect. They were probably texting. They were probably spending some time together. There's definitely some touchy feely all over the season. He's protecting her and standing up for her. And there's so much that we're not seeing on camera between weeks and between summers and between like the Hamptons parties or whatever. And all she wants to do is get through the summer. She knows she's divorcing him. She's done. I don't know if she's divorcing Kyle for West, but she's all finally for the first time ever she sees outside of the horrendous marriage. She sees that there's a future out there for her. She sees that there's a life out there for her outside of this little marriage that she has with Kyle, where all she wants to do is lay in bed and smoke pot and not leave the house. Kyle brings out the worst in her and West was bringing out the best in her, which is why we're seeing a great side of Amanda this season because she's fun. She can actually have fun this season. And so can Sierra not knowing that her best friend and the guy that she has a crush on or secretly hooking up, if not hooking up, thinking about hooking up. It's actually really, really shitty from top to bottom. So not only and I don't know if anyone's posted anything, but there's no way in freaking hell that Page to Sorobo doesn't take Sierra aside. There's no way. But she already wasn't the biggest fan of West. And there's no way that. I mean, if anything, I can somehow see. If anything, I can somehow see that. Kyle feels bad for Amanda and somehow tries to connect and like make it easier for Amanda for whatever reason. I just feel like Kyle is going to feel bad for Amanda and worry that she is getting too much shit online. He's going to still be protective. OK, hold on one second. What is this? Bravo for the rest of us posted. Saying we just we just chose to ignore all of these signs. Says the the cast can't talk about it, but we all see the signs. This was maybe an older TikTok. Let's watch. Run. Was it just that clip? I thought it was going to be a whole clip. They were in love, you guys. Look at that picture. Yeah, you can't you can't convince me. You don't talk to someone, touch them. You don't connect with someone like that unless. You have feelings. I think Lindsay is definitely going to go off. She's going to be really upset. What one thing that that is interesting about their statement, face reality posted, you know, what's missing from the statement is any denial of it starting before her separation or anything. They will 1000 percent. Well, what the hell? Look at this, Dave Portnoy. Oh, yeah, I'm not sharing with you guys. I'm pulling a sack. Dave Portnoy posted on X saying about he reposted the New York Post article about Summer Summerhouse stars Amanda and Wes are in a full blown relationship. And Dave Portnoy said, Yon, chicken fry told me this at the Super Bowl. Old news. So Brianna chicken fry told Dave Portnoy this in February. Oh, my God. Now who posted KJ posted? I love my big sisters for life. I love my little sisters for life. KJ posted about Sierra connecting with Sierra. And this oh, this is interesting. It says West figured out since day one. With us. So what's happening? We're saying what's happened. That. Yeah. You're all done. Why? Oh, look at the two of them sitting together. He's selling. He's most scared about the public not letting him. He doesn't give a shit about you. I don't like he doesn't give a shit about you. He's more scared about the public not liking him. Oh, my God. Well, just guess what? West really? Wrigley doesn't like us. Guess what? West is not going to be liked. I don't know how you come back from this one. I don't know. So you guys, I'm going to move on to another story, but you guys let me know if anything new happens, I trust you first. We have 1300 people watching live between YouTube and X. So thank you so much for being here and make sure to hit that like, subscribe, follow. And if you're listening on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, follow along too. OK, a couple of other big stories happening. Tiger Woods, his DUI, he was found with two opioid pills in his pocket when he was arrested. This is what we suspected yesterday. He blew a zero and he was he was OK with doing a breathalyzer, but did not want to give his urine sample. OK, and that is why it's no question. It's because of this. He had two opioid pills in his pocket when he was arrested for the DUI on Friday. And apparently there was a arrest affidavit that says that he told police officers he was looking down at his cell phone and changing the radio station before his rollover crash on Jupiter Island. They found two white pills inside the left pocket of his trousers. They were marked M367, which is hydrocodone and is used to treat severe or chronic pain. He was sweating profusely after the incident and he was lethargic and slow. And he had hiccups. His eyes were bloodshot and glassy. His pupils were extremely dilated. And when they said, do you take any prescription medication? He says, I take a few. He was high as a book on opioids. And listen, I don't know a lot about opioid addiction. I just know it's real bad, real bad. So I understand that Tiger Woods lived and came out from like a really bad life and struggled and this and this and that, but it doesn't matter. Do not be taking pills and driving. Do not be drinking and driving. Don't do any of that shit. It's all bad, all bad. So as I said yesterday, and I continue to say that I believe Tiger Woods is a loser. Sorry. And I feel bad for him because when you have everything in your fingers, in your hands, everything like you've been given a life of amazing success and luck and this and that. And then whatever. Now, speaking of addiction, I am actually really interested in this Lamar Odom. What's it called? The the documentary. It's on Netflix today. Comes out today. So maybe I'll try to watch it this morning before our Donna's group chat tonight on Patreon, where we're going over book club and talking about TV stuff. So Lamar has this new documentary. And if you guys remember anything about Lamar, he was married to what's her name, Chloe Kardashian. And it's actually so. I mean, I'm very interested in hearing this story. I don't know if you guys are interested in learning about this, but I am very interested. This is when she found him. We have what's it called? Relapsing when he was supposed to be sober. And this is after they were together. I think this is when they were already broken up, but she is like so forgiving to all the men in her life. So you know the smell of crack. It's the most identifiable, disgusting smell. And there's nothing that you can confuse it with. And I remember stomping by the house and I smelled crack. I remember slowly tiptoeing up the stairs. He was in his bedroom, sitting on the edge of the bed, smoking crack, and I just punched him in his face. I just put my life on hold to take care of you. How did you get this? You can't talk. Well, lo and behold, he had a phone. He was better than I knew. He was playing me so I can continue this lifestyle for him. OK, so that's on Netflix. I am super interested in watching that. Kim Zolciak's ex, Kroy, has filed for custody, sole custody of four of the kids. He says that. He says, hold on, let me pull it up. He says that she is. Effing up her parental responsibilities, Zolciak. He claims that the 47 year old reality star with whom he currently has joint custody of blatant mismanagement of basic parenting responsibilities that would be practically unbelievable to anyone not familiar with the circumstances. He she blasted the claims in a statement to Daily Mail. She said these accusations are completely false and nothing more than a deliberate attempt by Kroy to defame my character. I spent five weeks away working on two TV shows to support my family and make sure my children are cared for, something I will never apologize for. I refuse to be bullied or have lies twisted into a narrative about who I am. I will not stay silent. The truth is on my side and it will come to light no matter how hard anyone tries to bury it. And this is obviously about, you know, just recently and I think this is where it comes from. Just recently we had when Jesse from Mormon wives, doesn't it feel like a year ago about the Taylor Frankie Paul story? I mean, seriously, how happy is Taylor Frankie Paul that Amanda and Wes made that statement today? Taylor Frankie Paul during that whole thing when Jesse had, when Jesse talked about her man, Jordan going for escorts and sex parties and this and that Kim Zolciak and the two girls, Briella, Brielle and Ariana both commented. All three of them commented saying sounds familiar. We're very comfortable with this. We know the situation. So it is 100 percent a real thing that they're going after each other. Kroy and and whatever her name is, Kim, Kim Zolciak. Wrigley, people are seeing you in the camera and they say, go Cubs. Yeah. Wrigley. Wrigley's because of Wrigley Field. Wrigley, of course, is a Cubs fan. OK, so the final story is going to be just a funny little intake of today. Oh, no, Nancy Guthrie, just a little moment of Nancy Guthrie. Brian Enten is back in Arizona for what reason? I don't know, traipsing around the desert. And he said that this is all I have for Nancy. He has one, one piece of information. And that is according to investigators, very familiar with this case, there was absolutely no mess whatsoever and no signs of assault in Nancy Guthrie's home, which, guys, and at this point, I'm just I'm done holding strong for the Guthrie's and the family or whatever. I'm going to tell you this right now. The reason why there was no signs of assault in the home is because, in my opinion, Nancy Guthrie was never home on Saturday night. There I said it. I said it. I said it. I've said it now for weeks. She was never home on Saturday night. She never came home on Saturday night. She was in my eyes. The only thing that makes sense is that this whole thing that we see the cameras and then the blood is all a ruse. It's all trying to pretend that there is some sort of kidnapping. I don't believe she was ever kidnapped. I believe she was, unfortunately, probably murdered or something awful happened outside of the home. OK. No signs of assault when two, three, maybe four men come into your home and take you out of your bed in the dead of night with no shoes. No signs. You just walk through the house so perfectly and prop open the doors and then there's blood. You've got blood on the outside of the house, but there's no sign of assault inside the house. Fuck you. No. OK. Sorry. No. I'm so done with pretending that it like this is a real story. And you know me, I was trying very desperately and hard, but since Savannah's interview, I see things I see everything differently. It is completely fake. She is absolutely they're all fake. Something is wrong here. Christina says, ooh, making drama, Donna drop an F bomb. I know, I think two today. OK. And then the final thing yesterday, we laugh so hard at the thread that I shared with you guys about everyone when they were 10 years old in the 90s. And I saw another thread that two people have sent to me already. I haven't gone through it yet, but I can already tell you guys right now. This is going to be going to be good. Stacy says, this is me in seventh grade. I had zero friends. I thought I looked cool in this outfit. In fact, I picked out this pose and everything about this picture. My hair is in a French braid, which is why it looks like I'm a boy. That is a silk shirt. No one can show me a picture worse than this. Just wait. She says, yeah, I art directed this actual school photo with my crystal ball. How about my glamour shop from 1996? It was my 14th birthday gift and I was so excited and this is what they did to me. Adam goes, hold my beer, seventh grade. Roxy says, for school picture day, I wore a button. Who is on that button? Me, myself. When asked if I'd like to remove said button of myself for the picture, I said, no, why would I do that? Apparently I could levitate and that stairs screams mind control Xavier Institute class of 1995. This person says I'm the original bar from Stranger Things. Oh, my God. She says I'm twelve in this photo. She looks like my science teacher when I was in sixth grade. You guys, I can't. It says for your consideration, 1991, sixth grade, perm and short hair cut the day before class photos. You guys, this is a 50 year old woman in a kid's picture. It's wild. Senior pictures 1990. I was not someone who didn't make up her hair. But somehow for these, I'm channeling dynasty women. My high school students think the blinds are freaking hilarious. Why are their blinds as props? Why do you have to look through blinds? I see you. I'm 10 years old in the hair and glasses. Make me look 35. OK, we'll leave it at this one. Me and my twin brothers in 1977, we thought we were badass and our non flame retardant funky shirts. Oh, my God, I love us. I love us. I think by the end of this week, I need to maybe accumulate some of our favorite pictures of us ours. Oh, that's all we should do. Maybe join our Facebook group, The Daily Joe's of Donna Facebook group. If you're on Facebook and then we can do a thread over there and then I'll share them at the end of the week and we'll do our own thread of like really embarrassing childhood photos. That's a great idea. So join Daily Joe's of Donna Facebook group and we'll post them there. It's so this is so funny. We have to do a dosers version. OK, I love you guys so much. Thank you for being here. This was a great, great venting session for me. And we will talk about all of it. We'll talk about all the reactions tomorrow. I think there's new episode of Summer House tonight. So definitely stick around and watch it. Make sure you subscribe and like this episode. I really appreciate all of you guys love you and I'll talk to you tomorrow. Bye.