Listen If You Want To
52 min
•Apr 2, 2026about 2 months agoSummary
Danielle and Amy launch their new podcast 'Listen If You Want To,' discussing celebrity gossip including LeAnn Rimes' TMJ adjustment, the 'Scamanda' drama from Summer House involving Amanda, West, and Sierra, and reality TV trends. They also cover entertainment news like the Laguna Beach reunion, April Fool's pranks, and provide song recommendations.
Insights
- Reality TV drama drives engagement through parasocial relationships and algorithmic amplification of celebrity content across social platforms
- Joint statements from celebrities often backfire by drawing attention to non-scandals, suggesting silence or simple acknowledgment is more effective
- Podcast launch success requires strategic partnerships with established creators to borrow audience reach when traditional distribution channels are resistant
- Wellness trends (TMJ adjustments, heating pads, biotech devices) gain traction through celebrity endorsement and social media virality rather than clinical evidence
- Entertainment consumption patterns show audiences prefer episodic drama with ongoing character arcs over standalone events
Trends
Celebrity wellness and biohacking products gaining mainstream attention through influencer demonstrationsReality TV franchise fatigue driving audience interest toward reunion specials and legacy content revivalsApril Fool's Day becoming a marketing tool for major studios to generate viral moments and social media engagementPodcast distribution challenges for independent creators despite zero-cost production modelsSocial media algorithm dependency creating echo chambers around reality TV drama and celebrity gossipGen Z content discovery shifting toward TikTok for music and entertainment recommendationsStreaming platform consolidation (Roku, Amazon Prime) becoming standard household entertainment infrastructureMenopause and women's health becoming normalized conversation topics in mainstream entertainment media
Topics
Reality TV Drama and Social DynamicsCelebrity Wellness TrendsPodcast Launch and Distribution StrategySocial Media Algorithm EffectsEntertainment Industry GossipStreaming Platform UsageMusic Discovery on TikTokApril Fool's Marketing CampaignsWomen's Health and MenopauseBravo Franchise AnalysisLaguna Beach Reunion MarketingSummer House Cast DynamicsRyan Murphy Production StrategyPublic Relations Crisis Management
Companies
Bravo
Primary focus of reality TV discussion including Summer House, Southern Charm, and Real Housewives franchises
Roku
Streaming platform mentioned as preferred smart TV operating system for ease of use
Amazon Prime Video
Streaming service mentioned for hosting entertainment content and original productions
Netflix
Implied through discussion of Ryan Murphy's production deals and streaming content strategy
The Bachelor/Bachelorette
Reality TV franchise discussed in context of potential casting and entertainment trends
People
LeAnn Rimes
Discussed for viral video of TMJ jaw adjustment that sparked wellness trend conversation
John Hamm
Mentioned as unexpected celebrity weighing in on Summer House drama at Friends and Neighbors premiere
Amanda
Summer House cast member involved in 'Scamanda' drama; filed for divorce from Kyle
Sierra
Summer House cast member; ex-girlfriend of West; best friends with Amanda before alleged fallout
West
Summer House cast member; dated Sierra; now involved with Amanda; subject of 'Scamanda' drama
Kyle
Summer House cast member; married to Amanda; recently divorced; subject of reality TV analysis
Paige DeSorbo
Summer House cast member; best friends with Sierra; absent from current season
Ryan Murphy
Producer/creator; April Fool's prank about Stevie Nicks/Fleetwood Mac limited series
Stevie Nicks
Subject of fake Ryan Murphy April Fool's announcement about limited series production
Stephen Coletti
Laguna Beach reunion cast member; discussed as attractive and featured in promotional content
Jenna Bush
Today Show personality; April Fool's prank involving cake delivery that resulted in real fall
Willie Geist
Today Show host; recipient of Jenna Bush's April Fool's cake prank
Amy Poehler
Discussed for interview with Brandy Carlile about sleep routines and Biomat wellness device
Brandy Carlile
Singer; discussed for Super Bowl performance and wellness routine interview with Amy Poehler
Julianne Hough
Actress; referenced for viral energy healing video that influenced algorithm recommendations
Ryan Gosling
Actor; discussed for Project Hail Mary film and Days of Our Lives admiration of Deidre Hall
Deidre Hall
Days of Our Lives actress; admired by Ryan Gosling for possession storyline performance
Joe Jonas
Jonas Brothers member; referenced for iconic story about eighth-grade bathroom incident
Noah Wyle
Actor in The Pit series; discussed for motorcycle riding skills and tattoo aesthetic
Quotes
"Listen if you want to. I'm not going to make you. That's our whole thing here."
Danielle•Opening segment
"We are asking for zero dollars. There's not one dollar we're making on this. We just want to have fun and we want people to hear what we talk about."
Danielle•Show introduction
"It's the dumbest thing because I don't even know. It drew attention to it. Nobody even cared about this until they put out the statement."
Amy•Scamanda discussion
"I would like to know a little more about the Dome Town. Like now that the Dome Town has crumbled, I would have liked more like how are they living in this dome?"
Emma•Paradise discussion
"This baby who has never been fed or had a diaper change is alive and well and does not cry."
Danielle•Paradise critique
Full Transcript
Welcome to Listen If You Want To. Very professional intro. Thank you. Very professional. Thank you. So this is Listen If You Want To, you're Danielle. I am. And you're Amy Sugarman. Why do you have to say my last name? I'm glad we really just did intros. So this is Listen If You Want To, and we're going to tell you what Listen If You Want To is all about. Some of you know us, some of you don't, so you're going to get to know us, hopefully. Because we want you to listen if you want to. I'm not going to make you. That's our whole thing here. But first, what is happening with Leanne Rimes? I need to understand what's happening. So did you see the video? I did. So it's like she's at the dentist. At first I was like, is she at the dentist? Their arms are in her mouth, is what I thought. Yeah. Just to kind of paint the picture, what's happening in this video is Leanne Rimes is like laying in what seems like a dentist chair, not a dentist chair, but you know what I mean. There is somebody with gloves on their hands and have their hands in her mouth. To their elbow. Like I was like, what's happening? It literally looks like they're breaking her jaw. And what it truly, it's what it looks like. The best way I can explain this is like she got like adjusted. Like a chiropractor, like adjusted her jaw is what I feel like it immediately. She's bawling. I couldn't tell for a second if she was bawling or hysterically crying. It was one of those that you were like, are you crying? You sorry, yes, hysterically laughing. Like it was a weird cry. It was like out her whole entire body. Her whole body was crying. So I was like, what's happening? Of course, first of all, I saw the headline like Leanne Rimes cries. Like I was a click immediately. All I could think of was like, can someone come and do that to my neck? Like, oh, you see, we've talked about this in our live and personal lives before. There's no one I love more than my car. And I am. I'm obsessed with a car. After terrified of a car. Oh, in adjustment, you crack my neck and crack in every single place you possibly can. This is fascinating to her. I don't know. They I think they were truly were just because she she later goes on and posts, you know, on her Instagram and she says she has like she suffers from TMJ and whatever she has pain there, like she carries her stress in her jaw and her shoulders and neck. And I think she I don't know. And they were relieving some kind of pressure in her jaw. I don't know if I'm horrified or sign me up. I don't I don't want to elbow in my throat. But if somebody could do that to my neck, first of all, though, somebody can do that to your neck and it's called a car. You just have to go. We were watching something we shouldn't be watching. It felt, you know, it reminded me of me. You know, I did. I did. I do. Really. What? What is it? Julianne Huff. Just Julianne Huff. Who we love, by the way. But like. We love. So why? Why was I watching that? Have you remember video from Julianne Huff? Maybe at circa twenty eighteen. She's laying on this table and she's like getting all this like energy healing thing. She literally had an exorcism. I thought she was going to levitate. I can't believe you just said that word. I thought she was going to levitate. I was like, what is happening? OK, so then I think now my like algorithm knows and I see Amy Poehler talking to Brandy Carlyle. You know that singer Brandy Carlyle? I do. She just performed at the Super Bowl. Yes, I forgot that. OK, so they're talking about their sleep routines and their heating pads, which I love. I'm not a heating pad person. I'm not. Which is weird because I get so hot that you wouldn't think I would. I just want to wrap a heating pad around every muscle in my body. So you don't use a heating pad. Mm hmm. Are your muscles just like silly putty? They are rather not. I feel very tense. I probably could use a heating pad, but I just don't use it. Amy Poehler is talking to Brandy about something called the Biomap. OK, so immediately I'm like, girl, what's that? Googling it while they're talking about it. It sounds like a body sized heating pad, maybe with crystals, which that part scared me a little bit because I never know, like, but I'll try it. I don't know. I just let down on it. Yeah, you laid out. Does anyone in our crew know about the Biomap? Emma, Jackie, Hannah, anybody know on the Biomap, but yes, on the heating pad. You know, it would be cool. I literally was using it last night. Yeah, I heard of a comfy. Do you know what a comfy is? I would be I would be sweating so bad in a comfy with the menopause hot flashes, I would be like, I'm I'm I'm unwell, like I can't. How cool would it be if it was a comfy and on different you can activate different parts of the comfy to be a heating pad? Could you make it? It's cool. Could you make it a massage or two? Just like, oh, good. So anyway, OK. Separately, there's so much to talk about. Yes, but I need to know. I need to know because I'm getting like texts about this serious texts. And I don't totally know what's happening. I know exactly what you're going to say. Who is West and who is the girl? And who is her name and who is the girl that's that's hurt by it? That John Hamm. Sierra's the one hurt by it. Yeah, Arora. No, Sierra. It's spelled like Sierra. It's not it's not Sierra. It's Sierra. OK. Who are what's happened? I know they're on summer house, but who are these people? Yes. What is happening? Why is it so major that John Hamm is talking about it? OK, I'll tell you why John Hamm is talking about it. He kind of weirdly got intertwined and it I know he loves Bravo. I know. But I texted our group and I was like, how does John Hamm insert himself into it? I loved it. Everything. Once he was in, I was in. I was like, he's in. Oh, my God. OK, so this is called Scamanda. So Scamanda. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Scamanda. That was like that podcast. I don't know what it was about, some kind of true crime situation. But OK, anyway, we're getting off topic. They're calling it Scamanda. And the reason why they're calling it Scamanda is because let me refresh your memory. Scandival. Exactly. I don't want to jump on your punchline there, but obviously. Everybody's like, obviously. Right. So Scandival obviously was like the biggest deal in the entire world. Now, fast forward to April. No, it was like. It really was. It was. If you're a Bravo head, I am. You are obsessed with this stuff. So talk to me who these people are. Who are they? For Scamanda. So if you guys watch Summer House, Summer House is such a good show. I thought you told me it's a lot of people don't like it. No, that's Southern charm. Oh, sorry. OK, yeah. Summer House is essentially these best friends. They rent a house in the Hamptons in the summer and they go every weekend and throw parties and you're watching the whole. So who are like the main people? Kyle and Amanda are a married couple. They've been together four years, like literally forever. And West is a newbie. Like he this is his third season on the show. West. I want his name to be West, but OK. I know me too. But there's a T West. OK. And he was dating Sierra. So Sierra. Sierra, not Sierra. Correct. Sierra. So Sierra is one of our favorites. She's best friends with Paige DeSorbo and. Oh, this is the show that that girl's on. OK, got it. Got it. This is Hannah Burner on the show. She used to be back in the day. OK, OK, the Giggly Squad. Right. And Paige is not on this anymore. This is her first season without without this is first season without Paige. Oh, my God, Amy, this is for her. This is hoping you could like speed this up a tiny bit. Just a little bit. But it's so good. You need all the details. OK, fine, fine. So long story short, Amanda and Sierra best friends. Sierra was dating West. They had a very, very messy break up. It was really bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. OK. Amanda breaks up. We know now in present day that Amanda filed for divorce from Kyle. So now. Whoa. Amanda. I wasn't expecting Amanda and West have. So OK, but was it cheating? Was there cheating? It sounds like there was no cheating. So that's a fair discussion. Merged. That is a fair discussion because we're we're watching the last, you know, the season of Summer House right now, which was taped in the summer. Sierra was with West. Sierra, Sierra. Correct. But it's spelled Sierra. I know, but it's Sierra. OK, fine. So West was with Sierra and Amanda was with Kyle. And now there's been a bit of a switcheroo. Is there any chance Kyle could be with Sierra? No chance. Zero. So no chance. OK. No chance. So why is it so dramatic, like a best friend switch type of deal? It's just, yes, there's that. And it's also. Kyle was everyone right now is praising Amanda for essentially getting out of her marriage with Kyle. And she is now Kyle Cook, Kyle Cook. And she is now so bored. Is it on its board? This is painful. Oh, my God. Sorry. Sorry. OK, keep going. Keep going. I'm trying so hard. It's just so good. It's so good. So there's just there. It would be so good if it was like my neighbors, but like, I don't know these people. And when you like separate yourself from it, it's like they all were single. So what's really the scandal? Right. They were like, I will agree with that. What is this? Amanda, why is this blowing up so much? Like, Scantful made sense because they were together. He cheated on her with her best friend. That made sense. I don't really know why this is such a scandal. However, it is juicy because it's like a best friend switch switcheroo. So Sierra and Amanda are not best friends anymore. Well, allegedly so. So I mean, like allegedly they are. No, I let up until yesterday. We thought they were best friends. So I don't know. So that maybe there was some sneaking around. I don't know. Maybe because we're all season seeing the season that aired that tape last summer and they're all touchy feely and no one caught that till now. So it's like everyone there was everyone is dissecting cut. Everyone is dissecting West and Amanda from last summer. And they're like, whoa. Like the paradise band theories. See this right now. I'm just knee deep in paradise fan theories. But we can talk about that in a minute. OK, so I don't care about any of this. OK, well, can you tell me why? Why I don't care what two people that aren't together like send a or not? Like they're single, right? And they're just starting to hook up, maybe be in a relationship. They put out a joint statement saying, hey, like we understand everyone's like upset about this, but like, please respect our privacy. And while we try to navigate this, I'm all. Oh, I did that. So does a joint statement. And I'm like, you. Some people were saying it was an April Fool's joke. Well, that's what we're I'm holding my breath to see if today we find out that yesterday was all a joke, but it's been like this since to stay. So that was before April Fool's. I'm like, I don't care. Oh, my God. The statement is dumb. It's the dumbest thing because I don't even know. It drew attention to it. Nobody even cared about this until they put out the statement. All they needed to say is we hooked up. We're two single people. We hooked up like that. Say that and move on. But like to. I don't care. I thought I cared when John Hamm weighed in and now I don't care. So the reason why you want me to tell you how John Hamm is involved in this. Yeah, because Sierra was at like the Friends and Neighbors Premier. Yeah, she was like hosting the red carpet and he like talked to her and he was like, how are you doing? Oh, yeah, she said not good. She's like, I'm not doing that. Great. First of all, that is the one thing I like about her because nothing bugs me more when people are like, how are you? And you're like, I'm great. It's like, no, you're not. Well, that's what she said at first. She's like, I'm great. She's like, actually, I'm not. And then John Hamm's like, what is up? Because it was before all the news. He said it was Team Sierra. How can you not? No one is not Team Sierra. No, I'm team. Please stop talking about this. I'm not going to like jump in here as a. Of course, Jackie. This is Jackie. Yes, please. I'm going to back Danielle up because. Thank you. Kyle and Amanda relationship. We have seen from the very beginning of when they met, they got married on the show. They got everything. So this season, it's you see the deterioration of their relationship. OK. And then you're seeing like some little like, I don't know, like flirtations with West like last week, Kyle totally blew up on Amanda. West stepped in and said, go apologize to Amanda. And just like, so every just dissecting their interaction. Everybody's turning the channel. Don't please. No, it's like if you're a bravo, like like me and Danielle, this is a big deal. This is a massive deal. Code. It's girl code. You don't do that to your best. OK, this is one thing. This is one thing I'm going to say. I and Jackie, I know you're here with me on this because we are the reality girls. Like give me a secret life of Mormon wives. Give me real housewives of Rhode Island. Give me summer house. Give me Southern charm. Give me anything on frickin bravo. I will watch it. And my last month has been so stressful. I it's really because of all this. Oh, my God. Taylor, Frankie, Paul West and Amanda. There's it is a hard time to be a. A reality. If I said how you do it, how you do it, Danielle, you'd say not so good. Not so good. OK, so good. I have one thing. Just I just want one more thing. Sierra for Bachelorette. I'm throwing it out there. OK. That would be good. OK, fine. Not to take a total left turn, but it is. At least it's in the reality realm. Right. Yeah, Stephen Coletti is hot. Oh, oh, oh, I didn't know. I did not really know that. Excuse me. It took you April 2nd, 2026 to say those words. Yeah, I didn't know. I did not know. Oh, my God. This is how I figured out he was hot. First of all, I'm into the Laguna Beach reunion. Now, I think I'm going to be disappointed when I watch it because I think it's going to be. Yeah, it's not like a tad dull. I think the marketing is genius and the promotion is genius. And Stephen Coletti dancing like he's Hugh Grant from that movie Love Love Actually is iconic. And that's how I realized he was hot. I think the payoff is going to be like not great. And I just have like one flag on their promo, just one tiny flag. Totally. They decide to do all the promo at Shudders on the Beach, which is in Santa Monica. I know, instead of looking at the beach in Laguna Beach. And they spent like a pretty penny because Shudders is not not. No, it's an amazing hotel. I'm not dogging the hotel. I know. It's amazing. Who knows why? If you're doing a Laguna Beach. You're who's putting some bucks behind this because I've been hearing about this thing for months. It's all shot. Then they have the whole like it's all. I love Roku, by the way. I am a huge just this is not a paid advertisement. All my TVs are Roku. You know, I like Roku. Idiot proof. It's so easy to use. It's like, thank you so much. OK, well, anyway, Stephen Coletti is hot enough. Two things from the two things from the Laguna Beach reunion. Living for Lauren and Kristen being back on our screens in some you think they intentionally both wore white on purpose. Being friends. Yes. Well, OK, the whole cast was in black and white. Oh, I see. I see. I see. But I don't know if you guys saw those viral videos of Kristen trying to sit down on the couch. No, did not say that. What? Because her dress was too short. Her dress was way too short. And so Lauren has to stand in front of her and Stephen has to cover her with pillows so that she can sit down. It was I think she was rather embarrassed. Like you can tell she was like sweating. And she didn't live here. So she maybe didn't have a spare outfit. Her dress was far too short for where she was sitting. Poor kid. OK. Well, now to go watch that. Let's pivot back to April Fool's. So I have questions for you. Yes, did you believe that Ryan Murphy was doing love story? Was he next? OK, so I watched the love story finale. The JFK, the JFK one. I am not fully done, but I do know the ending. There's a lot of thoughts. There's a lot of next week, next week. They also died on my birthday. Isn't that sorry? Yeah, I didn't realize that. So I saw this. So. I swear and I'm going to stand on this. That there was I swear that there was a promo for this at the end of the finale. I I can bet money on it. Like it was so real to me. I here's what I felt. Well, first of all, the song. What is it? What is it? Yeah. So basically what happens is it says I saw it on Instagram. Ryan Murphy and Stevie Nicks love story. And then it's like Alex Wolfe is playing Lindsey Buckingham or no. Connor Story was playing Lindsey Buckingham. And Alex Wolfe is playing one of the Fleetwood Mac people. And Billy Lord. This is what threw me. I'm not going to lie. Billy Lord as Stevie Nicks. Now, I didn't know that she could sing. And I think if you're going to play Stevie Nicks, you really you got to be able to. You really got to be able to sing. So that part I was like, hmm. But yet I was like, I'm in. And it said like love story, Nicks Buckingham or something like that. It it smells a little fishy, fishy. You know what it made me do when I when you sent that to me? I immediately Googled and I was like, I need to learn all about Stevie Nicks love life. And I don't know that. I don't know that. So I think it's an April Fool's show. What is? We know officially at the very, very end of the videos at April Fool's. Oh my God, I didn't stay till the end. Oh, yeah, the very for like five point oh, oh, oh, oh, five seconds. Yeah. But well done. Well done, Ryan Murphy, to just do that. Right. So you and. Yes, that was. But it's upsetting because I was actually excited about it. I'm like, can you do it? Here's my problem with April Fool's. I forget that I think about it. I try to prepare myself and protect myself. And then I forget the date because like I never know the date. So OK, the one that I thought was kind of amusing. So Jenna Bush is trying to bring some twenty thousand dollar cake. Did you see this out to Willie Geist? And she's the joke is she's going to drop the cake. But the part that happened is she slips in the frosting. So she is. It's shit and falls. And so to me, I was like, oh, my God. This isn't an April Fool's joke. So she goes to hard. She went down hard. I mean, that's going to hurt tomorrow. She's got a bruise on her knee. That's for sure. The Biomat for sure. Definitely going to need the Biomat. Because that's going to hurt tomorrow. Because I. My mom told me that when you fall, you what hurts is not what you think is going to hurt. Because what you like, if you twist your ankle, that's going to hurt your ankle, but it's whatever the rest of your body did. Whatever you might try to protect you. So the reason I liked it was because it actually was pretty funny with the fall. Right. And then Willie Geist is like, well, cake is April Fool's, but the fall is real, whatever. I think she like, I think she kind of just like tried playing it off a little bit. Like she was like, that was meant to happen. And then I think she was so in shock that it happened that she was like, that wasn't supposed to happen. Fall was like straight up great. Anyway, I don't know. April Fool's, whatever. I could take it or leave it. Yeah, I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. But I just don't care. Let's go back to that's with me. Don't mess with me. You know why? I can never I could never come up with a good April Fool's. I'm not like clever like that. Yeah, I'm not a prankster. Yeah. Let's go back to paradise. I need to talk about paradise. I'm like, I know we're not doing spoilers, but first of all, OK, can we do spoilers? Like, what's the rule here? How long can before I can do spoilers? I know. I feel how do we do this? How about let's discuss paradise at the end and everyone know we are getting out of this. Get out because I need to have a full breakdown. I am so fired up about paradise. Let's just. OK, if you if you're a paradise fan, like we are, stick to the right now. We are very, very. Yeah, very, very. You will dissect everything. I wanted to do my song picks at the end, but I'll do my song picks. Then we'll do that's a good thing to do on this. Listen, if you want to. Also, we should tell what the hell we're doing here. But OK, so what we're going to do on Listen, if you want to is when we have something that we have to talk about, but it has spoilers, very, very. And so we'll just go like time to do love if you don't want it. So that's good. OK. This is Listen, if you want to. And and. OK, so much to say. First of all, thank you, Jana Kramer, Scott Patterson, Jenny Garth, Tori Spelling, who what we'll say is no one believes in us, except for those four people. So. We wanted to do this show. There's six. There's six people on this planet Earth. That believe in us. OK, so we wanted to do this show because we're like producers, right? So we produce a bunch of shows, but we're like, we got something to say here. And if you think about Andy Cohen, he was a producer. He was an executive. And then he's like, you know what? I'm going to give myself my own show and look at it now. He's huge. Look at it now. He's just out there with Anderson Cooper celebrating New Year's like, come on. So we were like, OK, we want to do this. And like the pushback was it was hard. We got a lot of like what? Like it wasn't no, it was we don't even get it. Like it was so past. It was beyond no. It was like, what do you mean? We don't even understand what you're asking. And we went back many times and we're like, you guys, we are asking for zero dollars. There's not one dollar we're making on this. We just want to have fun and we want people to hear what we talk about. That's all we're doing here. No, guys, even last night, like this show starts now. And even last night, there were like, I don't I don't want to say who, because you're not supposed to say who, like going, we still don't get it. We don't get it. What is this? Can you tell us what's going on? They're like totally the problem. Let me tell you again. It's like, oh, my God. So anyway, if you could just do us a favor and like, listen, if you want to, like just help us out. Like maybe you like this. And even if today is not the best, like, look, we're doing our best. But like, it's going to get better. It's going to get better. And you know what? We're just here to have a good time. And we want to have a good time with you. Yeah, like pop on your headphones, go for a walk, back in the house, whatever you got to do, drive somewhere. And you're going to learn some stuff. You are going to learn. And also, that's anyway, you you might be listening where you normally hear Tori Spelling, Jenny Garth, Janet Kramer, Scott Patterson, because they believe in us and said we could borrow their feeds to help us have people listen. Because if we didn't have that, we we might not have any. There would be six people listening. The six people we just just just like a couple of people that are like, what is this anyway back to what did you want to talk about next? Well, I wanted to talk a little bit about love story, but I'm I got to catch up. So yeah, we'll do a paradise this week. And then next week, all have caught up. Oh, I did watch. OK, let me tell you what I did do. Everybody's talking about that. What what did you do? I wanted to say do so bad. Amy knows what I know. What I'm reference. You want me to say do do. But I also know what you reference. What I hope you know what I'm reference. I do have a do do story, which I will tell. Fine. Do you want the do do story or do you want Project Hail Mary? Which do you want first? I project tell me because I have a lot of thoughts about this. I haven't seen it yet. I know you have. No, I don't know how Ryan Goss. I've only seen half of it. Oh, OK, got it. I think we'll think. Well, I'll tell everybody what happened. So I really wanted to see this movie and then it kept getting great reviews. I'm like, I love Ryan Gosling. I do love Ryan Gosling. And it's like making all this money and everyone's talking about it. Right. And I think it's the same guy that did the Martian, which I love the most. I'm a Ryan Gosling. He's acting by himself the whole time. I know he's he's a genius. That is incredible. First of all, sidebar. I we're going to talk about Project Hail Mary, but I need to talk about Deidre Hall and Ryan Gosling. So are you too young for days of our lives? I am a little too young for it in the sense I didn't watch it. But I know all about it. I know days of our lives. I have a friend that works on the show. I know you do on a name drop. So in my era era, era, era, era era, we would go home from school here and it would be three o'clock and we would watch days of our lives. And so Ryan Gosling, somebody, this guy, Joshua minimizing something about like his men, you know, actors he admired and he whips out Deidre Hall. And if I did not perk my ears up like because he's talking about how the storyline when she was possessed, of course, I know it. Like I'm in the bow and hope, Kayla and patch era. Like this was the, everybody was running home. And like you weren't VCRing that crap. You're like, I'm watching that live. Right, right. Like Young and the Restless was cool, but it's 11 a.m. I'm at school. So I was running home to get Days of Our Lives. So does he not talk about how great D.Drawhal is? Does D.Drawhal suddenly invite him to the set of Days of Our Lives? He accepts. I mean, I'm in. I'm like, when is Ryan Gosling going to the set of Days of Our Lives? Which by the way, I have been to. And it's very, a soap opera set is very strange. Have you been? I have not, but it's right across the street from our offices. I know. It's just like a box, a box, a box, a box with like mini set, mini set, mini set. So we'll get into this, but I wrote my thesis on soap opera fans. So we'll talk about that another day. But yeah, so anyway. Project Hail Mary. So if you're feeling what I'm feeling, which is it's a three hour commitment. The movie is two hours and 36 minutes. And I don't think that counts the previews. Oh. So I was like, overwhelmed, shook to my core because I'm like, I want to see this so bad. But three hours, I was like, I couldn't figure. I was like anxious about it. So I had a free ticket to the movie theater in my town. So because one time I went to the movies and the projector busted. Remember that Jurassic Park? I do. I do. Scarlett Johansson. So it's a small town. So I had a free ticket. So I go, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to go for half the movie. And then I'm going to go on with my day. And then when I have time, I'll go watch the other half. Right. Right. So you have to watch the other half. Are you going to watch it this weekend? I think I'm seeing the Mario movie, but I'm going to get to it. Here's what I'm going to say. It's great. I'm not. I couldn't. I don't think I could have sat there for another hour and a half because I think I would have gotten like like stressed and I had to go to the bathroom and the whole thing. Not do do, but. So but it is a good movie. So far it is very good. All right. I mean, I don't have much else to say. I think it's crazy that he's acting by himself entirely for this. Tom Hanks, he just was totally by himself with a ball. You know what? That is an excellent callback that I did not. I did not even register because I love that movie. And you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. People in it, they flash back to like before he went in the spaceship. Right. Right. Look, it's good. Maybe I'll report back after I've seen the second half. So in the second half, are you going to go an hour and a half late? Yes, I timed it. I figured out exactly what time so that I'll go. I'm going to I'm going to have a little crossover. I thought I'll have a bit to refresh the old, you know, and then off I'll go. So enough of that. You want to hear about what happened to me at the car? I am thrilled and so excited to hear about what happened to you at the car wash. So pooped. I'm not afraid of poop talk. You know, either from time to time, you may hear poop talk here. But I am afraid of pooping in public. Like I cannot. That's absolutely a hard note. So you never use a public restroom? I use them for number one, but I would never go number poopy in a public restroom unless it's dire. Like and by dire, I mean like dire. So when you go to the cow cow game and you're there all day, never. Oh, my God, never. Absolutely not. You just hold it. I don't I don't know. I don't hold it. I've gone. I go before I go. You'll just you'll just go at a stadium. No problem. Well, I have a little bit of issues where it only happens every three days. So no, it's fine. Stop. No, no, it's a problem. I'm just a fronically constant. Have you tried raisin? Have you tried raisin? You just ate a bowl of raisin. You know, you know, you know what helps is magnesium. And I just need to do it every day. I'm supposed to rub that on my feet for my all my menopause. Oh, wow. Well, just continue with your story. I'm also trying to get off sugar, but whatever. It's a sidebar. So I go to the car wash. I think first of all, I don't eat cheese. Sorry. No, it's whatever. We've made it enough time that if people suddenly turn the channel, it's OK. Thanks for listening. Listen if you want to. We'll put poop talk at the end, too. So. I had he started eating cheese again because I thought maybe I can eat cheese. Let me tell you what I can't eat. Cheese. The last two times I've had cheese, I've had incidents. One at Macy's. Sorry, Macy's. Super sorry. But that one was OK. This was at the car wash. And let me tell you, I was like, I don't have my car. Like my car is at the car wash. You cannot you cannot eject. I was like the full panic. I I was so panicked, I didn't know what to do with myself. I'm like, I'm just going to have to do this, go in. Of course, I turn the water on the whole thing. I'm like, just a wreck over it. Go back out. Probably having a hot flash during this. This is an absolute disaster. Then I have to go again. And I'm like, I'm actually panicking. I don't think I can ever go to that car wash again. And then what I do is immediately text all of you, like because I felt like this will help me if I text you all, like I'm at the car wash. I'm like, I don't. It's so good. I don't think I can go back to the car wash. It just reminds me of when Joe Jonas put his pants when he said that. I he goes, guys, I don't know. Somebody asked them like a life changing moment or something like that. And he just goes in eighth grade, I pooped my pants, but he said the S.H. word. I put my pants and now I'm a Jonas brother. And I was like, are you the most iconic person on the planet? So you can be a Jonas brother one day. I am a Jonas brother. Like I was like, I need to know every detail of what happened to him in eighth grade or whatever it was. But I did not. You just you had issues in the in the restroom. You know, it happens to the best of us. It happens to all of us. Does it? Does it? That's my question. It does. We all have one story like that. Absolutely. I'm sorry, guys. Should we go to Paradise? But I feel like this is a safe space for people to if you got to talk about it, talk about it here. And I'm going to have to stop eating cheese. There's no cheese. So I have a quick question for you before we move on to Paradise. Is it Hannah's reminding me of something producer Hannah. Also, I clocked. I'm sorry. Because you know, the sea here's why. Why? No, because here's why I was so nervous that, you know, those seat covers. I took like 11 of them, 11. So it's not like I clogged the toilet with my, you know, what? Because I was like the water's running. There's like 47 seat covers. It was so stressful. And then. Because you have milk or is it just cheese? It's just like, can you have a milk? I cannot have milk. I cannot have ice cream. I know all this. No, I literally felt like a criminal. First of all, I felt like I texted you guys on Bonnie and Clyde because now the toilet has all those seat covers. It's just an absolute disaster. So I just ran out like I had stolen jewelry. Human that has to deal with that. Oh, my God. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I didn't know what to do. You know, look. Whatever. I think you got it. Yeah, it happened. I guess that's that's a wrap on the car wash. Not to drive further to the car. I'm just going to wash my own. You want to do a mobile car wash? Those are expensive. Where they come to your house. So you never know. I like that it's expensive, but at least I always have my safe potty. Should we switch to paradise? Is this the time? I'm ready. Oh, my song picks first, my song picks. OK, so this is something I've dreamed about like all my life is being able to tell people a great tune. So OK, because I am like way too much time on TikTok. I'm trying to limit it. Like what's your TikTok time? I don't do TikTok. I like Instagram. What's your Instagram time? Hmm. You mean like a night before I go to bed? Yeah, like do you cap it at an hour or something? Well, my my phone yells at me when it's over 30 minutes. Oh, that's lovely. OK, so I always say ignore. Oh, and you're like, thank you, crack addict. I'm going to go for some more. Yeah, OK, stop it. OK, totally. So right. Sometimes I'm like five minutes on TikTok. Two hours later, I'm like, oh, exactly. Better. Exactly. So anyway, I try. I'm trying to do an hour of TikTok, but I find these songs. So these I don't know anything about these artists, like these musicians, I just like the song. So I'm not like advocating, you know, anything. I don't know these people, but I love the songs. So I'm trying to find undiscovered songs. So I'm not going to be like, you know what, guys? Let me tell you what's ahead. Olivia Dean, you know, like tomorrow, right? Yeah, right. This is like me deep diving aggressively on TikTok. And this is country. I like country so you can do it for, you know, what you like pop. What's it called? Yeah, I like pop. OK, 80, 80, 40 pop. So, Emma, Manny, I don't know. Somehow we can play the two hooks for my picks of the week. And can you guys say the artist's names? I because I don't I just go by the song. Yes, this is Brad Hodes and this is. And you guys tell me. So here's the game. You guys are going to tell me. Am I right that these are Jams? Summer bops. Here we go. Oh, my God. Yes. I mean, that is a 10. Thoughts. No. What? Guys, that's a 10. 10 out of 10. Oh, my God. 10 out of 10. We could not be more different. Hannah, get Hannah in here. Hannah, I liked it. I'm a country fan. I like you so much. Hannah. Yes, it was good. I feel like it was maybe a 10, five to 10 years ago. I don't think so anymore. It feels done. It feels like it's been done. No, totally incorrect. Like 10. What's the red solo cup song? How does that go? Feels like that. No, it doesn't. Oh, my God. Give me the other one now. This is my other one that I also feel is my current. 10. You guys, Emma, you like country, Emma, get in here. This is a wilder. Thank you. Did you think that was a 10? Here's my two picks right now. Don't take me home. Yeah, we just got started. Don't forget. I can tell that you're all in. You can tell I'm already feeling this. Don't take me home. Yeah, one more drink. Let the night get wild. If you keep getting this close to me, I'm going to take a long way. That was good. That was good. That was good. So that's a good one. That is a straight 10. Jaylin Wilder will be out April 3rd. So tomorrow. OK, so those are my picks for the week. So that was good. That was good. Thank you so much. We should rotate this. I feel like Emma, you give us a Gen Z version of this next week. OK, I will. And that was a those are two tons. Amy Dancing is 11.5. Thank you so much. OK. So now if you listen, if you want to, but you don't have to, because we're going to give spoilers of Paradise. Yeah, this is if spoilers are coming, guys. So if you don't want this, you get out of here. But we got to talk about Paradise. I want out of here. I want to talk about this. I want to get this too, because we're good. Good, good, good, good, good, good. And one of our producers doesn't want this. So Hannah, get out of here. Yeah, by Hannah. Listen, if you want to. You later, Hannah. Mutant Hannah. You're out. Deep into the series. You can begin. My thoughts are there's there's way too many. I need somebody else to start this conversation because I. Jean's not dead. Obviously, she's not dead. Jean's not dead. A dead person does not get up and walk away. James, not dead. Alex was Alex's A.I. Quantum computer that Dylan built. You know, I called that. I called that from from two episodes ago. We believe Link and Dylan. Like, what are we talking about? This is the part that I'm like, are we talking like body jumping? OK, I heard a theory on on Instagram today. So I guess the producer said this and I didn't see the source. But the producer said that it's like a block of cheese. And then you take you slice the cheese into these different times and then you can put the other slices into this slice. I'm like, so is it like multiverse? Yes, I think so. I think it's the only part that I'm like, I don't I don't know about that. Right. I don't know about this. That stresses me out because it would be one thing if like, oh, she went back in time and did it. Why didn't you just go back in time and fix the planet? Like, I don't get it. Go back in time and fix the right. Corruption or whatever happened. OK, what I saw. But I think that's I think that's the point. That's the point. What I saw is that. Link is not her son, Dylan, but Alex placed him, predicted him in front of her. Same birthday, same name to make her think she was seeing her son so that she could die with everything. You know, I would say that she was. Going to end with the world. I prefer that. I prefer that it's less wonky. Do you know what I'm saying? Because it's getting it's giving me. Here's the thing. I'm not saying it jumpy the sharky. It didn't. I love it. It's I love it, but it's giving lost. And I don't I'm not I'm not for that. It is giving lost. My other theory is that Jane is like indestructible. She's like, I don't. She's just like literally indestructible. And if you were Jane, would you not wear a bulletproof vest everywhere? I would do it percent. So she was bleeding out. So like, oh, I saw that Alex created Jane. What? No. I know. I think I think Jane saves Sinatra somehow. And Sinatra's not dead either. Oh, my God. OK. That's good. That's good. Right. That's what I thought. But then Alex, Alex predicted that Sinatra was going to die. They'll let that day. OK, so here's dictated that that was the last time Alex was going to see Sinatra. So that is open for interpretation. Were you nervous that Sterling was not going to make it out the door? I was like, bro, OK, I have a theory. Run faster. I have another thing that I saw in the beginning season, the first season when he was running through Stars Hollow, that is the same route that he used to get out. So he had been running that route already. And so Alex predicted that he was going to be able to get out because he had. That's also excellent, Emma. Excellent. That's good. My God. That's not. These are not your theories are not bothering me, because I just I don't. I'm not here for the time traveling. Like, I don't want that. I think it's just really, really smart technology. Yeah, I believe in. I totally 100 percent going to give you that. And someone said she was watching on the camera. She's just so she knew at what moment the doors could close or Alex did or whatever. OK, here's something I'm bummed about. I could have done a little bit and maybe we'll get this. Maybe we won't. I would like to know a little more about the Dome Town. Like now that the Dome Town has crumbled, I would have liked more like how are they living in this dome? You know, like the robot ducks and that kind of stuff. Yeah, well, I mean, I could have used another episode about just life in the Dome Town. Yeah. I agree, because I'm interested in that. I think I was expecting more from Shaneleen Woodley's character. That was a quick hello and goodbye. Yeah. For everyone saying how well she played the part. Everyone's saying she's going to get the Emmy that like if Dylan is going to get back to the machine. I'm sure she's going to come back somehow. No, that's what I'm this is an invasion of the body snatchers. Like, I don't think that that's we can not bring dead people back to life. But in some other reincarnation, I don't know. I'm hoping not. I think she is gone. But Bravo to the performance, I will say that. And I have two bones to pick up on this series. Bone. Bone number one, this baby who has never been fed or had a diaper change is alive and well and does not cry. I think they're ever changing the diaper and feeding the baby. Yeah, but we just are not seeing how are they feeding the baby? Like I mentioned the bottle. Remember, right? I know. But if you remember when he left that town after Shailene died, he gave him one can of formula as a mother, you know, one can of formula last max two days. Where's the mailman? Where's the mailman? And then this is my third one is is Sterling ever going to tell his wife that he slept with Sarah Shahi? Yeah. But did it in your life? When Sarah Shahi came up to meet the wife, and I felt that I was like, this is rough. This is rough. Somebody said we should be paying attention to the apple pie as well. I don't know what apple pie that's making me think of Richard. What apple pie? Link wanted apple pie. Oh, yeah. Hmm. That was odd. That was odd. And also how is that link is that link is a smoke show. He's a smoke. A smoke. Also, how is Sinatra just like her husband is not sad that she's dead? He's also hot, by the way. I saw something that her husband was a figment of her imagination because somebody seen outside. Correct. But that's not true because he's outside the thing and he found the daughter and he's jumping into cars. That's not true. That's a bunch of malarkey. But he's hot. But maybe they don't know she's she's she's dead. They make we just don't know. OK, you search for her. Well, I understand. He's just like eating corn dogs. I don't know. Like he's just walking around, not not a kid in the world. He's already written to guys. It's like. Who is he? Who is they're actually filming, I think, actually this week or next week, season three, like, no, I know it's definitely coming back. But who is that? Hollywood Warner Brothers. You know, it's Jackie. It's it's demolished. The they're not going to be filming in there. Oh, that's right. That dome town is gone. So my other question is in this other bunker, is it just Alex? Or is there a whole other town over there? Under the Denver Airport? I know. And what's the deal with that statue within itself? So what's the deal with that statue? Well, underneath it is a bunker, like an actual. Are you familiar with that statue? Yeah, the like lasers at night, they point. They like that horse. Yes. Wait, time out. Time out. An actual bunker. And because you went to school in Colorado, what are the theories of underneath the Denver Airport? That there's an actual bunker underneath the Denver Airport. And the theories are in IRL. Yes. And the theories are that the man that was building the horse statue at the airport, the horse ended up falling on him and killing him. So it's like the horse has like the spirit in him. And so the eyes like stare at you. And do they stare at you? Do they like you see it? Yeah. You know, there's a mean my roommate were watching. We were like, oh, my gosh, I wonder if they're going to tie in the Denver Airport because they're in Colorado and the whole they sure do. I think there's a town under Disneyland. So there's town. There's like things under things. Oh, I'm just saying. Yeah, there's like prisons underneath like every hotel in Vegas. Like it's is that true? Yeah, I think there was like it was inspired by an old town that was actually oh, my gosh, that there I remember seeing something the first season that there's some truth to this bunker idea and that it was actually built and something happened. Oh, my gosh. Why was the ceiling falling? Like why was like all that crap falling? I think it was like exploding. Yeah. The levels. Remember, they cut that seems so dangerous. Right. It seemed very dangerous. I was super sad when the guy died. The guy I forgot his name. Geiger. I don't know why I want to call him Geiger. The old guy that was friends with Link. Oh, my God, that was sad. That was really sad. That was a painful one. And happy Robinson didn't die and that the president's son came back and Jeremy. Totally. Me too. Me too. Me too. Where's James Marston? No, I love him so much. Bring James Marston back. At least we have friends and neighbors. Figures out. James Marston is right. Like at least we'll get flashbacks of him. How about James Marston being the smartest one of everybody? Because I'm like this is undestructible. It's not like we're never going to have a problem. And then James Marston's like, yeah, how about if that all happens at the same time? And the guys like, like James Marston. Right. He's he's the goat. He might have been the smartest of the whole thing. I agree. I agree with that. He is so hot. Yes. Is that inappropriate? Did we decide that? I know we're done debating. Are we allowed to say? Yeah, we're allowed to say that. Wait, I just thought of this and it has nothing to do with Paradise. But have you guys started the new jury duty? Of course, not yet. It's funny, but I miss James Marston. Yeah, it's funny. It's funny. You know what it's great for when you're washing the dishes. So here's what I recommend. Get yourself the Amazon. I can't say it because mine won't. I like it. Did you hear me? I guess. Get yourself that. Put it in your kitchen and then you say, put on jury duty while you're doing the dishes. Hmm. It's that kind of a show. Right. You can just listen. You don't have to like you can listen. Like Paradise, you can listen if you want to. You need to sit and watch. You know what else you have to sit and watch? Like you really like you have to the pit. Yeah, the pit is great. And the pit is really good. First of all, Noah Wiley, I don't advocate for not wearing a helmet unless you're Noah Wiley on the beginning of that first episode. Wow. I literally googled, does Noah Wiley know how to ride a motorcycle? And it's a Ducati. I'm not even a motorcycle. I'm not even a tattoo girl. And now I'm like, I'm a tattoo and motorcycle girl. Oh, yeah. In my love a tattoo. What about like full arms? Love it. OK, well, guess what? If you get out, you miss some great, great stuff here. I think the last 10 minutes might be the best 10 minutes. Well, if they dipped out, I guess they're not really listening to this part. Are they? So anyway, listen, if you want to listen, if you want to, what's our sign off? How do we sign off? You listen because you wanted to. We knew you know, I don't care for that sign off. OK, OK, OK. What if we just say, listen, if you want to. Bye. No, no, it's lame. Lame. See you next time. Not that. See you next Tuesday. Just kidding. Listen, if you want to. This isn't even Tuesday. It's what day is today? Thursday. Oh, Thursday. I think we just say, listen, if you want to. Click. Go ahead. You sign us off on our first official episode. You go. Thanks, everybody. Listen, if you want to. Feel like you don't care for that. That's good. That's good. You mean the episode in general? The episode, I think, was like pretty good. If I'm going to read us, I was if you're still listening. My performance was. Oh, you did. I think it's just you were having some Wi-Fi issues. Yeah, it's like I'm going to give us like, look, you don't want to start with a 10. People expect too much. Right. We started with a six. You're right. And it's only up from here. You're right. You're right. You're right. Yeah, I got to figure out how to get Wi-Fi in my freaking office. I think we can go now. Are we still on air? I was just talking to you. It's like a human being. We're still on. We're still on. I was just talking to you as a human being. I thought we were done. It's always on. And Manny said, get Xfinity. Talk to you guys later. Listen, if you want to.