Best of NFL News Part 2: Allen Iverson CALLING out the NBA STARS for LOAD MANAGEMENT
57 min
•Apr 11, 20267 days agoSummary
The Nightcap hosts discuss Allen Iverson's criticism of modern NBA players for load management, contrasting it with the physical demands and faster pace of today's game. They analyze recent NBA news including Jason Tatum's return to Madison Square Garden, Joel Embiid's appendectomy, and the OKC Thunder's championship potential, while also covering WNBA news about Angel Reese's trade to the Atlanta Dream.
Insights
- Modern NBA's increased pace and tempo (faster than Iverson's era) creates greater physical demands on players, making load management a legitimate health strategy rather than laziness
- Star player availability is at historic lows due to non-contact injuries, suggesting systemic issues with game intensity and recovery protocols rather than individual weakness
- Joker's pass-first mentality and basketball IQ fundamentally differs from ball-dominant centers like Embiid, creating better spacing and offensive flow for teammates
- The 65-game threshold for award eligibility incentivizes players to return from injury prematurely, creating perverse incentives that harm both player health and team performance
- Joel Embiid's recurring injury pattern (8-9 consecutive playoff seasons with injuries) suggests either structural conditioning issues or a pattern of playing through inadequate recovery
Trends
Non-contact injuries increasing in NBA despite better medical technology, indicating systemic pace-of-play problemLoad management becoming standard practice for star players as preventative health measure rather than exceptionAward eligibility thresholds (65 games) creating financial incentives that override player safety considerationsPass-first center archetype (Jokic model) outperforming ball-dominant centers (Embiid model) in team success metricsWomen's basketball gaining mainstream attention and investment with high-profile trades and venue selloutsPlayoff injury history becoming predictable pattern for certain star players, suggesting systemic rather than random causationIncreased scrutiny on player conditioning and offseason training regimens as injury prevention strategyGenerational shift in competitive intensity during practice and training, with younger players potentially under-preparing
Topics
NBA Load Management StrategyPlayer Injury Prevention and RecoveryGame Pace and Physical DemandsAward Eligibility ThresholdsCenter Position EvolutionPass-First vs Ball-Dominant OffensePlayoff Injury PatternsOffseason Conditioning ProgramsWNBA Player Movement and TradesBasketball Practice Intensity StandardsNon-Contact Injury EpidemicPlayer Compensation and Incentive StructuresDefensive Intensity and Trash TalkGenerational Differences in Work EthicSports Medicine and Recovery Protocols
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People
Allen Iverson
Criticized modern NBA stars for load management, contrasting with his era's playing through injuries
Jason Tatum
Returning to Madison Square Garden after Achilles injury, expressing psychological concerns about venue
Joel Embiid
Underwent appendectomy one week before playoffs, continuing pattern of recurring injuries before postseason
Nikola Jokic
Analyzed as pass-first center with superior basketball IQ, leading league in assists and rebounds simultaneously
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Discussed as consistent 30+ point scorer for OKC championship contender
Chet Holmgren
Identified as key defensive anchor and rim protector whose development will determine OKC's championship viability
Angel Reese
Traded from Chicago Sky to Atlanta Dream, only WNBA player averaging 12+ rebounds per season
LeBron James
Discussed for assertive play and facilitating teammates, playing alongside his son Bronny
Dylan Brooks
Analyzed for trash-talking defensive tactics and emotional play style against elite opponents
Bronny James
Playing alongside father LeBron James, discussed as historic family dynamic in professional sports
Quotes
"Load management, they took me to the hell for allegedly not practicing. Now they cry about players not playing games. I played every, he said, I played with every injury you can think of to the point they had to hide my jersey to keep me from playing."
Allen Iverson (referenced)•Mid-episode
"I think the pace of the game has really, really has been upgraded to the point to where it's taking a load on a lot of these cats."
Host•Load management discussion
"Yoke is IQ for the game is basically like LeBron. Because when you come with the double team, he knows where you come depending on who comes, he knows where he's supposed to be."
Host•Jokic analysis
"Can't nobody even make the 65 game threshold to even be, you know, in the conversation for any of these awards. You know what I mean? So it says a lot."
Host•Award eligibility discussion
"If he's been in the league 10 years, one time of all those years, because we see what, boy, when he's healthy the regular season, that joke alone."
Host•Embiid injury pattern analysis
Full Transcript
Sorry for the voice note, but can we get a takeaway tonight, Mum? Oh, no, no, we've got leftovers in the fridge. They'll do it, it'll be nice. Um, sorry, I'll eat it. Who's for pizza? Pizza! Sure, we can give you lots of data, but what really matters is friends and family. That's why we're happy to be your second most important network. Tesco Mobile. It pays to be connected. Terms apply, see tescomobile.com. Dylan Brooks, talk all that trash to Katie just immediately, get his ankle broken. Take a look at this clip, guys. Man, this was nasty. Ha ha ha! Let's go, baby! Ha ha ha ha! Oh! Ha ha ha! Let's go, let's go, let's go! Ha ha ha! Why he killed me? Man. Woo! Hold on. Did y'all see how when he caught the ball, he looked left, like he was going toward the pick and he rejected real quick. Hell, Dylan Brooks didn't know what the hell was going on. That man stumbled twice. He touched Earth twice, and he just calmly knocked down the committee. Hey man, better watch who you talking to sometime. Yeah, hey, Slim Reaper. He ain't playing no games out there. I like to see when dudes do, but I like to see when dudes talk stuff. I like watching Dylan Brooks play in his antics, him being emotional. But hey man, sometime they don't do nothing but turn some guys up, bro. It turns some guys up, man, to the point. Yeah, after the game, Katie said that, you know, Dylan Brooks ain't got no effect on his game. That's a lie. That man, hey, he made you go in that bag. You know, somebody go to talking to you to make you pull out what you got. Oh yeah. And the funny thing about it, Dylan Brooks, he go with everybody, especially the better players, when he competing against, you know, the KDs, the LeBrons, he going to antagonize you. He going to get in your ear a little bit, try to throw you off your rocker. Oh yeah. But them great players, they don't bother, they don't bother. That might bother less than tier players. You don't play at that level. You think Dylan Brooks is the first guy to try to get up on the ground and get the rest game? Yeah. I mean, think about LeBron. He had, how he had to deal with a land, land, blowing all in his ear, doing all this foolishness. Yeah. These guys used to it. Cameras called Katie said, my worst season is better than your best season. Hey, it's some truth in that. Hey, it's levels to everything, Joe. But when you had that competing and you were talking, Dylan Brooks always been talking. You ain't said none of that. You always be, you always been one that can antagonize you. You don't get this work. I don't care what your seasons look like, whether it's better than my, what is better than my, my best or not. I'm going to talk this shit. And I think that I think that they got by them getting traded for one another pretty much. I think that's kind of, you know, it may be a little something. Yeah. Little bad blood. You know something. Boy, you trade folk Dylan Brooks for Kevin Aran. As much as you talk, you ain't bothered him. De LaMond did Joe Joe. You know who to bother. Hey, DB, I'm talking to you. I'm talking to him. I'm talking to safety. I'm talking to you. You're a chump too. Man, look, I love it. You know, that's, that's what Dylan Brooks is doing is more to get him going himself going than that impact. When you dealing with those level of guys, right? It ain't got nothing to do with them. Right. But if they, if they end up, if they end up meeting the playoffs, it's going to be some smoke. It's going to be some smoke. Trust me. Just under a year after tearing his right of kill ease tenant in Madison Square Garden, Jason Tater will make his return Thursday when he and the Celtics take on the next. Tatum said, he's not exactly looking forward to it. Tatum said, I mean, yeah, I thought about it. I'm not like thrilled to go back to the, and play there. The last time I played there, obviously it was traumatic experience for me. Obviously I knew at some point I would have to get over that hurdle and play there again. So it's going to have to be this Thursday, but it's not like I'm thrilled about it, but it's part of it. I've decided to come back and play. So I'm not necessarily skipping certain games. I can't play back to back right now, but I decided to come back and play. So it's just another game on the schedule. Joe, are you concerned about those types of comments? Normally guys like man, I was a little jittery to go back out there the first game back because I am coming back with many thought I was going to miss this regular season, but he's like, he's not looking up a specific place. Normally guys is not the specific place. It's like the first game. Now, if the first game was back, the first game back, Joe, right? But now you've been playing two, three weeks and so I'm going to get you. I don't think I think he's going to be all right, man. He's been playing great basketball since he's been back, especially over the past, what maybe five or six games or so. But yes, it's natural if you had an injury somewhere and you get back in that environment or in that same place that he's going to think about it. I can also, you know what I mean? Planning, Madison Square Garden thinking like, damn, last time I was here, you know, it's right here in this particular spot where I was laying at when I tore my Achilles. It's going to be in the back of his mind, but I think he's going to be just fine. I think he's going to be just fine. He looks great from his movement and how he's been playing. He's been shooting the three ball better, getting to the rack. I don't think I don't think I think he'd be all right. Yeah. I think he'd be, hey, I ain't never been injured. So it's hard for me to say what he would be thinking about. Obviously, if you had an injury and you're going back to the place where the injury actually happened, I think it's in the back of your mind, but being a competitor, you really can't let it get in the way that you actually plan a performing at the highest level. Obviously, you want to go out there and do what you do. So I don't know, Joe, you and I, y'all be better to kind of assess that. Now that he's talking about it, I was like, and it never dawned on me. Oh, Joe, in 99, I broke my collarbone in Oakland. The next time I played in Oakland, I went 96 yards down the middle of the field, scored a touchdown against the rear, 2,000 for the Ravens. That was my first time back there. It didn't dawn on me until now. Okay. It didn't even dawn on me that like, man, this is where I broke my collarbone last time I was here. It didn't cross my mind until we started to like, he started like, I tore my Achilles in Madison Square Garden and I'm coming back. Like I said, now maybe I would have been at the forefront of my mind if my first game back would have been in Oakland. But because so much time has passed, I'm just having to go back to Oakland. Hey, look, and I agree with you, Joe, I think the mere fact that he's been at for three weeks and he's gotten better and better and better and better. I don't think he has anything. I don't, I mean, personally, I don't think he has anything to worry about. I think that that tendon is as strong as it's going to be. But I do think, you know, considering that the Celtics are playing the Knicks, that's going to be a physical game. Okay, old Joe, you know, it's going to be a playoff game. See them big wings that they got. That's why that's why the Knicks went out and got OG. That's why the Knicks went out and got Bridges because of what? They play against Tatum and Brown. So it's probably, it's probably going to be probably one of the most physical games he's going to play since his return. If we just keeping it 100. I mean, because it ain't but a couple of games left. Everybody's still kind of jockeying for position. You know what I mean? So it's going to be, it's going to be pretty intense. It is. And man, when you think about it, Joe, I didn't realize until like, see it like Jason Tatum's there. Jason Tatum like, man, that was tall, man. Here I was thinking all this damn time he like six, eight, no, that's both like 16. That's the advantage and that's the advantage that they have because you can play Tatum at the four and have have more have your five out there. Obviously when they had poor Zingas or our Horford, you know, they were playing metaphor and play one of those guys at the five. But they got a, they, I don't say, I won't say a totally different team, but they got different type of bigs now. You know, obviously they got boost of his to shoot the three. He can spread the floor. But the other kid that I can't wait, what's the name? Quater. I like him defender rebounder rim runner, lob threat, gonna play hard. And that's what they've been missing. That's what they that's what the sales has been missing. It's going to be a good game tomorrow. Yeah, he is. It's going to be tough because you know what? And you can't take anything away from, you know, out of the matchup because I think the Celtics beat the Knicks during the regular season last year and damn them. Yeah, they did. They had them a big body brunson. Yeah, they have no answer. No matter how, think about it, no matter how big of a lead they had, Nick would just just methodically just track them down. Yeah, because even the game Tatum got hurt. I thought he was playing great, but yeah, they were still losing. They don't believe them. They were losing when he when he got hurt. Trends come and go. Your skin barrier doesn't e45 lotion is effective science backed hydration for everyday use, lightweight, fast absorbing and trusted to do what your skin needs. No fuss, no compromise. Just soft, smooth, healthy looking skin every day. Grab your e45 lotion now. Adam Iverson is calling out modern NBA stars for load managing. This all hit different for me. Load management, they took me to the hell for allegedly not practicing. Now they cry about players not playing games. I played every, he said, I played with every injury you can think of to the point they had to hide my jersey to keep me from playing. True story. Now we talking about the game, not practice, not practice, we talking about the game. Don't cry now. What the baby's going to do. Hey, look, I understand what AI is coming from. Hey, look, you talking to a guy who was Iron Man and NBA for over a decade. I can oh, Joe, like I thoroughly enjoyed what I what I was doing and I thoroughly enjoyed the game and I never wanted to cheat the game. But I think we do have to take into consideration the way the game is being played today. Meaning it's a lot faster. The tempo is more upbeat, more up, more, more, more pace. And you know, back when AI and T Magnum was playing, the game wasn't played this fast, man. You know what I mean? Yeah, those dudes average 30 plus a night. But hell, they was the only one on their team who was doing that. You want to put up about 85, 90 points, you know, 95 points a night. It's just totally different, man. These guys play as such a healthy, skelter pace. And, you know, starting to hurt our stars as we can see a lot of us. Look, look, man, can't nobody even make the 65 game threshold to even be, you know, in the conversation for any of these awards. You know what I mean? So it says a lot. I think the pace of the game has really, really has been upgraded to the point to where it's taking a load on a lot of these cats. So Joe, what do you think you think the answer is obviously fixing the issue is taking some of the games out because the pace is a little bit more upbeat now? No, because they ain't gonna pay you money. No, no, yeah. Because you know you play less games, you get less money, Ocho. Yeah, I mean, yeah. You give it up some of your money? No, but I'm just saying how do you fix the problem? How do you fix the issue when you start your superstars? You're gonna have to train a lot harder if you're asking me, meaning like in the offseason, you're gonna have to be, you can't take no two months off, bro. You kind of got to stay consistent, you know, whether it's just standing shape, running, things of that sort, because that's all it is, bro. It's just the running part that's really killing cats, playing at this ultra high level, you know what I mean? Especially when we're getting the postseason, you know you can't take a playoff. You know, I know y'all, we sit here almost every other night, man. I'll talk about playing the game of basketball is three and a half, four miles a game, bro. Can you imagine running four miles every other night? Every night? Yeah. Up and down? Yeah. You definitely have to condition your body. You have to condition your body to withstand that kind of, and that's what Ocho and I was talking about is that we played a physical game. They were hitting, we were doing all those things. They didn't ask us to go from zero to a hundred just on Sundays. We had to crank it up during the week. Week, yeah. And I don't know if they crank it up like what we did. And I'm not saying the guys are not tough or that it's a different game now. We understand that, but and maybe it's because everything's yet covered. The NFL is covered so much different than it was when I played and when you played Ocho. And even when the beginning, when I first got to the league, but I don't remember guys getting injured like they get now. I don't remember it. And I'm not saying that it didn't. So, so Chad, don't, don't, don't beat me up too bad. I just don't remember. Did the guy have ACLs? Yes. Did I have Achilles, but not, not these non-contact injuries, not the injuries that we have that we see now. Oh, look, look. Yeah. I mean, I'm definitely not to the start. I'm saying it's happening to the stars, fellas. So that's it lets you know that obviously they're playing a substantial amount of minutes. It's obviously wearing tear on their bodies to where they're breaking down. Yeah. I mean, Uncle Joe, you know, you know, my whole thing is obviously for one, it's hard for me to even have, you know, input on conversation like this being that I didn't have any injuries. But I always say, I know I play around with nutrition, but for getting nutrition, you know, for this point, but I think people are players. We've also, what sports you, what sports you play, you have to learn to build a callus in the body. You have to, the body has to get used to, you know, ramping up to a certain, to a certain amount, to a certain degree that you do on Sundays, which is why when I did practice, I always practice full speed as if it was a game. Yeah. There was no relaxing. There was no, you know, you know, taking a playoff or hell, the funny part, I used to be a cursed out on and walk through because I sometimes I would do walk through full speed. Yeah. I mean, I wasn't doing it to be funny. I was doing it just so to continue to make sure my body stays activated and always at a high rate of speed at all times. And for some reason, I think it's those small things that I did that one of the reasons why I didn't, I didn't get hurt. And obviously I played the same sport. Uncle did Joe, a barbaric sport. I played very reckless Joe, you know, across the middle, you know, diving and hitting people, even though I lost every time I tried to hit somebody, I lost every single one. Joe, but I still never got hurt. And I'm at the talking everybody trying to knock my head off everybody trying to kill me. Joe, but I still never got hurt. You know, I mean, they call it walkthrough, but I was with a brisk dog. It wasn't a walking. And it's like, hey, pick it up. I said, you said it's a walkthrough. That's just entitled ain't no walking. Right, right, right. You know, and I said was nobody walked but the mailman. That's why he don't make what you make. Right. And it didn't give that joke. He doesn't know he walked. No, you didn't know about job. But here in Georgia, boy, they got some new mail trucks in the month of June and July. Them boys in AC. Yeah. Hey, you see, they sit real low, right, Joe? They sit real low. The mail truck is made different. Look, almost futuristic now. Okay. I ain't seen them. Yeah, they got to be here too, Joe. Yeah, cause I'm old mail truck that had a lot of it had the one had the one seat in there and the guy had the mail right there. He pulled up there to my all your head. You go. But he knew everybody. I mean, how you know everybody? He done sorted the mail before he went out there. He know the route that you're going to go. The first box I stop off and put the mail right here. But yeah, man, the mail them jokes. Hey, they got on short sense. They had a sweat all in their uniform. They having that down. And they living good. They be clean now. But look, and the thing is practice. See, I enjoy practice. Practice was really the opportunity, Ocho and Joe, for me to really work on because this guy that he sees. Me every day in practice. He knows all the little nuances. Right. He know that little at the top. He know the little head nod to the top or the three steps to like, no, and the thing is I give credit. Ronnie Bradford, Derek Dodge, Tony Vila. They would always give me great feedback. Yes. They like, they like sharp. You got on your toes. I knew you break it because I would have. I said, bro, how you, how you knew that route? He said, man, I saw you get on your toes at the top of it. So I just took a, I took it. I know you break it in or out. So I just took the, I took the thing up for myself to jump under it. Okay. So it kept me, okay. Make sure I stay off my toes and I would, you know, BP would have it cut up. And so I look at like, damn, I gave it away. I gave it away. But I'm saying to myself, he don't know this. The guy that's in the game don't know this. But even, even then, even though he don't know it, I'm trying to cut out because I don't want to give away no tendencies. Cause we're a tendency. Look, we study tendencies. We're going to get TV copy. That's why they're trying to get the cadence of the quarterback. We're trying to get that. We're trying to get how you stagger your stance and jump off the ball. We're trying to get that. Whether you're dropping, whether you're coming, whether you're doing a TE or ET, whatever the case may be, we're looking at all that. That's how, that's how the game has evolved. That's how the great players, they know, oh, we got a bird over here. He's about to fly. He bought it. Yeah. He's sitting like, Hey, cause, and I had a thing was like, cause I didn't want grass to get on my thing. Cause you know, I had those all tanked to find gloves. And I was like, if it was, if it was a pass, I'm down like, here. If it's a run, I'm like this, oh, you don't think we know him? What you know? Don't worry about it. So I had to add the, sometimes you have to self scout yourself, but I agree with, I agree with AI. But I tell you what, Joe, just think if that 65 games, was it in place, how many more games would they have missed? Let's just say for the sake of argument, the 65 game isn't the cutoff. A lot of guys came back just to make the 65 cutoff. Right. So we have other guys like Wimby, Wimby going to get that 20 minutes in the last three games. He ain't been the midst that defensive player of the year. He's not been the missing all NBA because now that puts him in line for the triple max. Right. Yeah. Yokey, say go miss normal game because now he's in line for a super max. Ant-Man is going to come back next year and do everything he can to make all the NBA because if he makes it, now he's in line for a super max. And guess what? In 2025, in 2027, 82 million points. Man, we ain't show you up again. He just shaved his side four years, two ninety-five this year. This year. Yeah. He has a good effect now. Hey, that's crazy too. When I think about it, Joe and I'm talking about the play, I'm talking about the top players, you know, the Cades and the Wimby's and some of the players that you know that deserves super max based on their value and what they bring to the team skill set and what they able to do in the fact that well, if they miss this amount of games, that means we can't reward you for what your true value is. That's in a sense that's messed up. It is. That's messed up. The fact that they even agreed to that when, listen, interest is a part of sports. Interest is a part of anything, any sport you play. And the fact that now they're kind of punishing players with you miss this many games or you don't play this many games, you know, we're not going to reward you with what your true value is because your ass always hurt. Yeah. And guys were just sitting out and see here's the thing. How do you that's their body? You don't know they could be hurt. They could be telling the absolute truth. But oh, Joe, when I got a game on a Saturday night and it's supposed to be a big game or I got a game on a Sunday and guys sitting down in the street clothes and they got the check in the end. No, don't worry about it. Yeah. We're going to fix this. Yeah. The NBA PA signed off on it. Joe, they couldn't have done, they couldn't have done anything. This has to be, this is collective. You're right. You're right. The player side, see the player side off on it and then it's like, oh, I got buyer's remorse. This is really a this is really, this really hurt me. And it's hurting the game, bro. It is. I don't think I don't think I've ever seen a year to where we've had this many of our stars out. Yeah. You know, miss, miss the significant amount of time. I don't think I've ever seen it, man. I'm telling you, I think this is probably historic this year. Seriously. Yeah. And the guys are getting bigger, bigger, stronger, faster. So they're going to have to get, they're going to have to get themselves in better condition. Yeah, they do. They do. Hey, Joe, you been in the gym yet? Come on, man. Come on. Stay in the gym, baby. What's up? I'm talking about, like, you know, getting shots, working on the ladder movement. I didn't see you some footage when I go tomorrow. No, hey, hey, Joe, hey, I got this. I got to show these shoes I got just for you, Joe, and I got them literally just to play you to make sure. What shoes you got? Hey, Joe, you a, a, hold on, hold on. I don't want to leave and go. Okay, okay, okay. Let me, let me, let me know. Let me make a call and tell them to bring my shoes. Hold on. Hey, hey, look, I'm going to tell his a cat rag that he don't even know. Hey, Joe, I promise you one thing, Joe, I promise you one thing. The way you think and you talk like you're going to drag me on my mama. No, don't don't. Don't bring your mom in this. Don't don't. I'm going to tell you, Joe, I'm telling you how it's going to be, Joe. I know you wanted to grade and Joe, I just studied you. Oh, Joe, I, I made a DVD. I made a DVD in there, right? I made a DVD in there. I have all your, all your, all your, all your clips, right? Your best move. So I've been watching your tendencies. What the move you like to do. Hey, one, two, and come back to the left. Pull up. Joe, I've been watching Joe. I've been watching. No, you laugh at him. I'm serious. Tell me I'm lying. Hey, I dribble twice to the right, come back, cross over with the left and pull up right away. I'm raised dude, man. Okay. Who raises dude for real? Joe, I got, I got the whole breakdown, Joe. I'm ready. You ready for it? Hold on. Matter of fact, and let me go get the shoes. Hold on. Hold on. She's asleep. Hey, Joe, did you watch LeBron tonight? Did you see how he came out tonight? Hey, boy, I'm playing with him, man. Did you see how he came out tonight, Joe? That's what we been looking for. Man, damn them. They'll get, get, get it how you get it. Look, the man, what he got? 26, eight and 11. 26, 11 and eight. 11 for 17. Oh, 11 or 17, three or five. That's what I'm talking about, Joe. But that's what I'm saying. If he gone just assert himself early on, then the rest of them dudes will catch up, man. The game will be easy for them too. You know what I mean? You ain't necessarily got to just come out and beat Magic Johnson right off dump, the way you just facilitating the whole first quarter, man. Damn, all that. I need you to get to it. Yeah. I mean, he like, you try to break Scottie Scott's assist record, try to get 31. Hey, you see, hold on. We need, we need 35 points. Hold on. You see Brun in there with 10 points, four for seven from the field. You see Brun out there. Hey, look, I don't know about nobody else. Chat. Y'all let me know what y'all think. But for me, when I watched the Lakers play, I love seeing Brun out there with LeBron for whatever reason. I love seeing them run pick and roll together. I love to see Brun get a sis out Brun and Brun and get his like, because I feel like this is his, it's so historic that it's happening in real time and a lot of people can't even appreciate it. But I can't even imagine being in the NBA, me and my son on the same team, bro. That just sounds crazy. What's this you got? And LeBron don't look at him as a son, because LeBron, he gave LeBron that bad pass against Dallas. He's like, what the? He probably got home and some better like, hey, don't you yell at my baby no more. Hey, hey, you know, it's funny. All that cursing they do on the court, Joe, you couldn't play with your son because the first time he cursed you, you got some carries, huh? Yeah. Yeah. And then Kari sent these to me. Hey, Kari be watching the show. Let me see what they look like. Let, let, let's see what they look like. Hey, hey, I'm Kari be watching the show, right? And he told me he gave me his blessing to give Joe that work. I'm gonna knock them damn tassels off them damn shoes, boy. When I get done with your ass. Hey, you see that Joe? Yeah, I see. Hey, that's what you, that's what you're gonna see. You're gonna see them tassels going right by your ass. That's what you're gonna see. Huh? Kari, Kari going back to his heritage. Hey, hey, hey, Kari. I appreciate that boy. I love you. You hear me? I ain't gonna let you down. I'm gonna give Joe that work. I'm telling you. Hey, they don't lie. But what I'm hooping in, they ain't gonna be the mess with what I got. I ain't even gonna show you. You gonna see them when you see me partner. Yeah. That's how I roll. Hey, hey, hey. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Hey. Mind your mouth, Joe. Mind your mouth now. Chet has finished as the number one seed his entire career. In 2018, 19 and 20, in 21 at Miaha Academy, he was the number one seed in the 2021 Feeble Under 19 World Championship. Number one seed, Gonzaga. Number one seed, OKC, OKC, OKC, number one, number one, number one. I told you, what I told you on Ocho doing the playoffs, I said the better check becomes, the better OKC will be and he will determine whether they be a dynasty or not. Because if he played great, it's going to be hard to beat him. Look what he did yesterday, Uncle Ocho. He had 13-14. Yeah. Four blocks. You know what I'm saying? So he rim protected. Yeah. I don't lose his scoring, but he rim protected. He making the game easy, you know, for the guys around him as well. I think his growth and maturity for OKC will determine how great of a team that they are. Yeah. We know Shay going to put up 30 plus. We know Jaylin, Jaylin, Jaylin Williams going to do his thing. But if Chick can play at a high level, man, they going to be almost unbeatable, fellas. Would you? Yeah. I mean, he's look, they just got so many. They just come at you. It's just going to be, it's just going to be hard for somebody to beat them unless they have. And the thing is, what are the likelihood of them having four bad nights? Not likely. Four bad nights because they got guys that can shoot it. McCain was a great pickup. Caruso. What's the lefty? Yeah. What's the lefty? Who be balling a little light skin? Oh, yeah. I know you're talking about Mitchell. I think it was named Joe. Is his name Mitchell? It might be. It might be. But Jeremy Clayne was a solid pickup because remember he was playing really well in Philly before he got hurt. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He was a great pickup. You know, a very underrated pickup. You know, a guy who is hungry, ready to prove himself. Obviously, he feels slighted for what happened to him in Philly. So, you know, he coming over there with, you know, with Avengers, bro. He look good out there. Oh, Kevin Durant scored 29 points as the Rockets beat the 76ers, 113 to 102 for the eight straight win. Philly was missing Joel Embiid after he had an appendectomy. The 76ers who was fighting for a playoff spot would be without Embiid indefinitely. He had surgery in Houston on Thursday after being stricken with a appendicitis overnight. The 76ers have lost three straight and dropped into a tie with Charlotte for the eighth seed in the East. Joel Embiid is just saying, you know what? He might as well just call him Slip Rock. I don't know if y'all remember the cartoon Slip Rock where every time you come around, bad stuff just start happening. Yeah. Hey, Aunt, that appendectomy. That's not, that's not, you're not out that long with that though, huh? Yeah, you are. You're gonna be there for a minute. Boy, they gotta go inside and get them things up. Damn. They open you up, Ocho. Yeah, I know they open you up, but I'm just saying the time that he has to miss obviously he'll be back. It's not, I mean, not too long. Maybe I'm probably weak. Okay, that's not bad. That's not bad. That's not bad. I live longer. Longer is not a significant amount of time, especially with him, you know, getting ready for the playoffs. I think the thing you're gonna go, Ocho, is that, and Joe, is that seemed like every time this time of year is something. Yeah. You remember last year it was his knee, and it's been his knee, and it's been his back, and it's been his ankle. And like I said, I've never seen anybody with, the only people that I've seen with more stomach issues than Joe Ellen Beaters' babies. I ain't never seen nobody have issues like him. It's something, I don't know what's going on and I, you know, I'm saying that tongue in cheek, but he's had issues with his stomach before. And then decided there's nothing you can do. I heard it's very painful from people that've had it. It's like, oh, bro, they got you, hey, if they have you doubled up. And clearly you do emergency surgery, but it's just like, it's one thing after another. I don't know. I'm trying to think that the time, maybe once in his career, that he's into the postseason and he's been healthy. In his career, and he's been in the league 10, 10 years. One time of all those years, because we see what, boy, when he's healthy the regular season, that joke alone. He had a deal with, wait, that joke alone. Hold on, uncle, has there been a season if he's been in the league 10 years, I'm not sure how many years he's been in the league. Has he had a complete season where he's been able to play 82 game season or is he going to play 82 game? He ain't going to ever play 82 game because of the size. There was a couple of seasons, oh Joe, where, and Joe, when you remember that he was having MVP caliber year, he didn't know anyone that he was playing probably 68, 70 games. Okay. Okay. Okay. But then come play off time. Ne, because remember last year he was like, what was it, last year or two years ago that he was like barely getting, that might have been, was that last year? Might have been last year. Might have been two years ago that he was like 30, looked like he was about 40 years in. But when he's, look, when he's healthy and that's a big win and that's probably why, you know, they haven't enjoyed the success that they've looked, that they wanted to have. You and Harden was there because he couldn't stay healthy. And then when it had been similar, he had some issues and then Ben had the issue with the Hawks and they had the issue with the Hawks and they ended up losing to the Hawks in seven games. And I said that they're never going to be the same. It's over for them. They're going to break that team up. I said, uh, uh, Joellen, I said, uh, uh, Ben Simicone for Doc to say what he said, for Joe, I'll say what he said. He was like, I said it. I said, oh man, you don't know what you're talking about. I said, okay. And then Philly, Philly, you know, you know, I, you know, I internet is a, uh, oh Joe and Joe, man, they had a trash can going down to flooded and there was a trash can and people talking about this Ben Simic. I said, oh yeah. So it's definitely over now. And you got, you got to trust. You got to trust the process. Over here. You talking. That process should go away. Hey, listen, and this is what I'm talking about. This is what I'm talking about. This is what I'm talking about though. When in when MB don't play, you look at max and edge comb numbers, they be totally different bro. MB is a ballstopper. Okay. Oh, Joe meaning there is not a lot of movement. He, yeah, he going to get you 25, 35 points a night, but the rest of these dudes around them, they ain't going to really be doing a whole lot. You know what I mean? Because he's so stagnant, obviously, and there's no rhythm. There's no flow. So, you know, you got a rookie like edge comb who thrives and transition. You ain't going to get many transition buckets, bro. You know what I mean? Because you saying MB taking up space. I'm saying because he's so ball dominant when the ball gets in his hands and stops, it don't move. You know, he ain't moving around, setting too many picks and rolling. You know what I mean? It's just not a lot of flow and rhythm in the game. So it hurts everybody else around him. Yeah, he can score on a half court set. You know, that's what he do. Yeah. But you know, the glaring thing is he doesn't give you, he doesn't give you much defensively. You know what I mean? He's spending all he's spending all his energy on the offensive end. You know, letting you know that, look, I can still get 30 at night. You know, and we know that. But defensively, you don't see a whole lot of shot blocking from him. You don't see a whole lot of great defense and that's kind of got Philly behind the eight ball. So I don't expect much from Philly. I'm going to be honest with y'all. They're going to be a first round. I mean, and, and, and what, you know, that's because they're right now they're in the playing. Go ahead, Ocho. Now I'm going to say why we on the top again be right there. Yeah. He won MVP. And the other person that went right behind and who was run up? If I'm not right, if you're going to run up, right? And think about Joe, think about all the things you just said about everything becoming stagnant offensively when, when in bed is playing, right? So when you look at, when you look at Joker, when he plays, what's the difference in what Joker does and what in B does being that he's a defensive liability as well. But still, you don't see them. You see them assist number. Yoke is got. Okay. He's obviously not the passer. He's not the passer. Look, Yoke is is if he asks me, he's a past first center. Who can score? He's looking score. Who can like, you know, okay, boom, he ain't open on the cut. Y'all playing me one on one. Okay, cool. I'm just going to go for 50 tonight. Don't even worry about that. You know what I mean? Right, right. I think Yoke is IQ for the game. Oh, Joe is just a little better. Hey, hold on. Hey, Yoke is IQ for the game is basically like LeBron. Yeah, correct. Yeah. Yeah. Because when you come with the double team, he knows where you come depending on who comes, he knows where he's supposed to be. So his man is open. That's why he throws so many passes behind his head because he knows the man came from the weak side. Right. And so he knows that whoever's in the dunker spot, whether it's Christian with Kristen Brown, or whether it's Gordon, or whether it's Strother, or whether it's Peyton Watson, he knows they're there. Yeah. So I can go behind my back because I know somebody's feeling from the dunking spot. Yeah, and that's just... He gets that ball at the nail. He knows you can't come double him. If you do come double him, you double somebody in the middle of the court? Are you crazy? Yeah, yeah. You can't do that. They give him both points. Yeah. And that's just having a great feel for the game, fellas. You know, knowing exactly where your guys are supposed to be at at all times, that's what a point guard does. Your center never really operates like that. This is why Yoko's just so great. It ain't... You know, he going to put up a triple double. It's because he going to do what he can. I mean, he going to score the ball if he had to score it that night. If he need to get 20 assists, hell, he going to do that. If he need to get 20 rebounds, he going to do that. He going to do whatever it takes for them to win. And that's why they've been successful. And that's what makes him so unique. He's about to lead the league in rebounding and assists. And you might not ever see it again. Because normally, when guys lead... Most of the time, when guys obviously lead the league in assists, it's hard. To ask a guard to lead the league in rebounding. So take about it. Now you've got a center that's leading the league in rebounding and he's going to lead the league in assists. Check this out, guys. Here's Joel Embiid's playoff injury history. 2018, he had an orbital fracture and a concussion. 2019, he had an illness, knee tendonitis. 2020, COVID bubble. 2021, torn meniscus. 2022, orbital fracture, torn thumb ligament. 2023, knee sprain. 2024, bell palsy. 2026, appendicitis. One week before the playoff start. 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, another 25. So basically eight or nine years, he's had something going into the playoff. Hey, who the hell is bell palsy? It's a debilitating thing that sometimes you see it, the mild B crook. Right. Of the Jew, you know. Okay. Okay. I think it's a neurological. Okay. Stink had it. Mark Slarem. Yeah, I think it's... No, he has Guillain-Barre. He had Guillain-Barre. He didn't have bell palsy. But sometimes you see guys in the end, they mild B crook. It's almost like it reminds people of a symptom like a stroke. You know, sometimes people have a stroke and they have a spurt of speech or they have a hand or something. It's kind of like that. Okay. But I don't think anybody's had a B crook that you don't see. Man, that you got buzzed looking. Man, it's unfortunate for him too, man, because, you know, it seemed like all this really, really started happening after that MVP year too, uh, you know what I mean? After this MVP year, it's like everything started going downhill for me. No, Joe, he was hurt before the MVP. Yeah, I know. In fact, by the 2018, he had an orbital fracture and a concussion. 2019, he had an illness in Nitsch and the Nights. 2020 was the bubble. 2021, he had a torn meniscus. 2022, he had another orbital fracture and a torn thumb knee ligament. 2023, he had a knee sprain. 2024, he had bell palsy. 2026, he had appendicitis. And... So, I mean, he's been... If you think about it, Joe, think about coming out of college. What was it? He'd have been the first pick in the draft. He'd have been back if his injuries wasn't the only one. Yeah. So, normally when you come, if you limp into a league, you limp out of it. You limp out of it. You limp into the season, you limp out of it. Because you know, Joe, being injured during the season, it's hard to get healthy, man. It is, bro. It's hard to get healthy. Because the games come too fast, you know what I mean? Especially basketball and football, you know, you make a nerdy injury a little better. But in basketball, hell, if I'm playing four games and five Nights, hell, I'm probably gonna have to sit out with one or two of them games. To get yourself back right. Damn. That's crazy. Man, it's tough. Look, I've dealt with injuries. I mean, I have, I mean, I played 14 years and, you know, had some success. But, Joe, I missed... And, Ocho, I missed 16, too. I missed 16 complete games. That's a season. Yeah. That's a season. Damn. Man. That's unfortunate, man. That hurts, that hurts Philly a lot, bro. Because, you know, MB will be great in the postseason, the playoffs, because... Yeah, could have, of course, that. But without him, they definitely ain't got no chance. Joe, you said something very interesting. You said, like, when Joel and B is out, you look at Maxi, you look at VJ. Yes, because he caught a lane up. Maxi can take you off the dribble, but Joel and B is right there. Yeah, yeah. Edge is explosive. And B is right there. The difference is, if you notice, they rarely, if you look at where Jokic is, Jokic is post up at, he always post up, he's either at the nail or at the top. Because, and even if he ever gets down on the block, he's looking to go across court. He's looking to pass first. You better not bring no double G's, Monty. He's looking to pass first. You're right. Absolutely. Chicago Sky have traded two times WNBA All-Star Angel Rees to the Atlanta Dream for first round draft picks in 27 and 28. Angel is the only WNBA player in history to average at least 12 rebounds per game in a season, which she did in 20, 25, 24 and 25. The Angels Dreamjerk is sold out fast. Not even her mom was able to get one. Damn. Lisa Leslie gave Angel the nickname, ATL Peach Barbie. Jokic seemed like Angel got what she wanted. She's a perfect fit. Is she a perfect fit for the city? Hell yeah, she a perfect fit. These people going to get behind me. Y'all already know it. Y'all know how they, listen, this is Black Hollywood, brother. Yep. They going to embrace her and everything that she does. You know, whether she may even come out with her own shoe now. Does she already have a shoe? No? Yeah, I think she got a rebound. She was shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She got a shoe. Yeah. Hey, but hold up though. Yeah, yeah, you're right. She does have a shoe with a rebound. You're right. But if we can keep Britney Griner and have Angel. Amen. Cause, cause. And with the chick from, what's the name from, from, she went to Kentucky. She's no one overdraft pick. Ryan Howard. Yeah. Yeah. Ryan Howard. We got a great, hey, they got a, they got a good team, bro. Absolutely. They got a good team and adding her rebounding machine, play hard hustle. Yeah, man. This is going to be a great fit for her. I like it. I like it. I think everybody got what they wanted. I think, you know, at the counter, some of the comments that she made last year. Yeah. Chicago was ready to move on. I think she was ready to move on. Ideally, I think this is, you can't get any more perfect than this. Yeah. You can. Hey, she's from the DMV. She can't, you, you can't get it any better than this. Yeah. Only thing I think Washington have a team, but this is where, this is where she needed to be. This is it. And the Angel Rees, hey, this is heaven for her. Yeah. This is it. She going to, she going to love it here. Hey, you know what's funny, bro? My daughter, 12 and she love Angel Rees. That's like our favorite player. I swear I can't make this up. So we definitely. You guys are all the games. Yeah. We're going to be in some games. Angel Rees, if you, if you watching this now, now I need to get my baby girl a picture with you. You know, we're going to come check you out, support you. So, you know, good luck in the A. These people going to get behind you for sure. Hey, I'm in the city where they at. Yeah. Hey, you know who I got? I got Asia. Yeah. I got Asia. I got Chelsea Gray. I got Jackie Young. Hey, we're going to, I'm going to come down there, man. We're going to go to a game. Yeah. Yeah. What's up? Oh, Joe. Where are we going? Hey, Joe, you ever, you ever been to a dream game before? Yeah, I'd have been a few. Hey, boy, I went to one. Remember, remember I went to the dream game at one time? Yeah, you went to, yeah, you told me it was lit. Man, I ain't Joe. I ain't never hit the same level boy DJ. Joe, I ain't never seen like that boy. Oh, Joe, it's different. It's different. I'm not at the women's games. The dream is different out here. It was nice. It was nice, Joe. It was like, like you in the club, but it's a basketball game going on. And don't let it be no time out, Joe. That's how the host game is. That's how the host game. Can you imagine what imagine on steroids? So imagine the host. That's how it is. Yeah. What they dressed up like the club, oh, Joe. Yes, Lord. Oh, we're going down. Damn. Yeah. I know. I know you. You look like the club. Yeah. I know you happy. You know, you going to have Cambodia with you. You ain't, you going to have them blind as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Joe. Hey, I should have. Cambodia, we ain't doing nothing. We going to keep it clean, Cambodia. Yeah. We're going to get out to go to Houston, but I like. Hey, Joe, I could have won. My credit card is fine. It is Houston thing. Anything that got Houston on it, it declined. Hey, Joe, I could have won my cheetah pan to the game, huh? Yeah, you could have won, Mojo. Hey, when nobody had these things on way. Hey, look, because it really ain't going to hurt you to look at the menu. You ain't trying to order nothing. Yeah. Matter of fact, Joe, I ain't even going to look at the menu, Joe. You ain't going to look. I mean, you got eyes, Mojo. I got eyes, but the stuff on the menu ain't nothing like what I got now. Yeah, I know. I know. I get it. I get it. I mean, Mojo, just cause you ordered a wagyu, but sometimes you look at the chicken parm, you're like, damn, maybe I just, you know, I'm just saying, Mojo, you just looking. You ain't ordering. That's all I'm saying. Oh, Joe, just because you done ordered, it doesn't mean you can't read the menu. You can't order again off the menu. That's all. I can't read. I can't read. Okay. I can't read. I ain't mad at you, Joe. You know. You know. Hey, Joe, you know, I've been, I've been in Atlanta, Joe. We might have to go, you know, go to do something. Oh, we got to. Yeah, we got to go check them out. No, I'm talking about being, you know, being you go, you know, being you, being you hang the weekend. Oh, yeah. Oh, we going this weekend? No. We're going to go by. Joe, I talked to your line. Yeah. I did. Yeah. But I was, as we were saying, I think this was a great fit. ATL Peach Barbie. Yeah. Hey, put, y'all put me in the group chat. Hey, I do want to check out that little spot. You were talking about though. That one little spot. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Say no more. No. No. I pay. I pay. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Hey, Joe, you got my message today on Instagram's and Twitter. Yeah. I say, okay. I see you're not doing your little yummy. Yeah, Joe. Boy, that should ain't, that should ain't enough though. I'm going to keep it real with you. Okay. Ain't no, ain't enough. I'm just letting you know my reach. You know my reach, my reach. You know what I mean? Hey, Joe, Joe, I'm coming up under that. I'm coming up under all that now. You see, you seen how Fedora done, uh, uh, keep thumbing. Hey, my last name in a third, my last name's Johnson. Hey, I was talking, I was talking basketball. I was talking basketball, but if you want to go, if you want to go that route, I mean, Hey, Joe. We just got to get the, we just, in order for us to really hang out, oh, Joe, we got to get the fade out the way that way I can feel good about myself. Cause it's going to be hard for me to hang out with you, you know, knowing you the high side of me, you the high side of me. And I pose it just live with it. Like I, I, I just need three minutes, bro. Then you know, I get your hug. I still love you. Hey, hey, hey, honestly, honestly, Joe, what's up? Like you probably ain't going to want to be my friend, you know, cause I'ma turn your ass every way, but loose. You hear me? Hey, Joe. Hey, hey, listen, you, I love you like a little brother, man. You know, but I mean, it is, it is what it is. I'm trying to hoop. Okay. We can hoop. We can hoop. What I want to see is I want to see you cast that ball in the block, in the low post or the high post and try to do all the moves you be doing. That's cheating. I ain't going to even post you up. That's not cheating, Joe. It's not my strength is my lower body, my lower extremity. So I'm ready up here. I'm good. Hey, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think your lateral movement, they agree. I'm going to get you moving side to side and I get to hit you with that, that you ain't going to, Joe, time out, time out, Joe. You talking to the person with the greatest feet ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. Yeah. You good in a straight line. Like straight line, Joe. I'm good. You got football feet. Joe, you say you got no boxing feet. Yeah. He ain't shuffling. He ain't keeping nobody in front of. All right. Okay. You know, I don't even want to talk about it more. I don't want to talk about it in the more. All right. Let it go. You going to get what you're looking for. Okay. Say the last part now, right here, baby. You probably drunk right now. That's all. No, no. I ain't drunk. I'm feeling good. Yeah. We got a little buzz going on too, baby. Hey, you see, you see me. I got my little portee too. I see. I see. I see. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. You over there, Joe Riven, this is about high school, old Joe talk about college. Y'all tripping bro. High school farm. It was fun. But once I left, I really, you know, that was it for your boy. I mean, you know, I like I said, like when I left, my girlfriend was still in college. I mean, it was still in high school. Mine too. Yeah. When I was a freshman. Hey, damn, I wonder what a woman is it weird to wonder where your girlfriend from high school lives at this point? No, I mean, I haven't thought about it. Right. I mean, I mean, we talking about it. I just wonder how she's doing. I wonder if she's okay. I'm curious. That's. Well, I mean, last, last I heard she had two, she had two kids. I mean, her kids grown now. Right. So, yeah, I mean, I don't know. You my high school, my college girlfriend, she had two more kids. Right. They're grown. I mean, close to being grown. Yeah. But no, I mean. Hey, that's crazy. When I think about it, you're only dating two people in high school. Yeah. Yeah, literally. I'm like, like dead serious really only two people. I mean, that don't mean you ain't shagged nobody just because you date. Okay, you had two girlfriend, but that don't mean you ain't put it down. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about serious dating. Obviously my oldest daughter, I dated her mom in high school and one other person after that. And the other person after that, I'm curious. How old is your oldest? 27. Oh, so you got a child with your high school sweetheart? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she took advantage of me, Joe. You were young. Didn't know no better. No, no, no, no, no. I mean, I was irresistible back then, Joe. If you think I look good now, you should have seen me in high school, Joe. Hey, you laid up where you man. Yeah, I was. I was. I was a little funny looking dude back then. I was funny looking back. Hey, Joe, I could dress. I put that thing on, Joe. I'd be out there clean with my clogs and my ballets, my polo sets. You know, my Tommy Hill figure set, Joe. You know, my jeans, starstuffed to the tee with the white tee with the, hey, Joe, I was clean, Joe. But you had, you had weak pullout game, didn't you, man? Yeah, I couldn't even pull out of the driveway, Joe. You hear me? But you got to understand. Oh, yeah, yeah, you know that, Joe, whatever. Hey, but you got to understand, there was a method to my man, Joe. I only had kids with people that were athletic. That's what's up, bro. Only, I don't care how fine you is. I ain't kind of about you being an IG baddie. I ain't kind of about having that. Everyone I have a child from, understand the athletic background. They give me an advantage when it comes to my child being an athlete. That's all. Hey, Joe, your kid's pretty competitive when it comes to you. Every, yeah, every last one. Man. Every last one. Mine's his too, bro. I'll tell you. The funny thing you said about playing your son one-on-one, he was talking about you being cursive. Yeah. You let it go? Yeah. Yeah. And in the midst of battling and in the midst of competing, yeah, I don't want you to lose that edge. I don't want you to lose that competitive nature. No, I don't want you to lose that edge. All right, listen, I don't want you to lose expressing yourself in that moment. I don't. You know what? You know what? For me, Ocho, you know, when my oldest son, I just feel like he can control me. I feel like he can control his emotions around me. You know what I mean? Like, don't tell me you can. Bro, we just playing pick up. This ain't no real game. Obviously, we want to win. We competing. But for you to just be F-bombing and... Yeah. I love that. I love that. That ain't happening. Because listen. Ain't no way, Joe. Ain't no way my kids would talk like that in front of me. No sirree. That ain't going to happen. Elmer. We playing a sport. I ain't trying to... I don't know what we playing. We playing, Joe. What's up? We playing a sport. I want you acting the same way I act. I ain't got time for all that. Don't be cursing all that. No, I ain't got time for all that. Be you. Express yourself. I'm sorry. I can't do it, Ocho. I got you. I got you. I got you. You like me, Joe? No sirree. Yeah. Hey, yo. Hey, they can't bite one sir. I said, what's the... Hey, go to bed. What are you doing up? Oh, my bad, Daddy. No. Okay. Okay. What are you still doing up? I'm not going to do that. I understand. Go to bed, man. It's a little clock. You don't talk like that in front of me now. Nah. Nah. Hey, I'm saying wait, man. Hey look. Nah, bro. I'll tell you, it's been three years since me and my older play pickup together. He was 16. Yeah. Bro. Yeah. Joe. I'm about to be 58. I pay my momma bills. I don't cuss in front of my momma. That's what I'm saying. You think you finna cuss in front of me? I still pay half your bills. Hey, oh no. Hey, oh Joe. Oh Joe. Why ain't cuss in front of my momma, my grandma, my grand- No. Hold on. I ain't cuss in front of my- Hold on. You think I can cuss in front of Bessie May flowers? Or I can cuss in front of Paul McCrossen? I ain't cuss in front of me, though. But when it comes to competing on that field, man. Joe, I told you, Joe, I ain't wear a mouthpiece for a reason. I suggested a start when I got to the league. Man, that started in an optimist. Boy, my grandma look at me sideways when I say ass. I say, great, it's in the Bible. But it ain't in there like that. Oh, no, no sir. Yeah, I don't- I wouldn't even think about my- I couldn't even fix my mouth to say, SOB or Moe Foa, what? GD. No. That ain't what happened. I'm sorry. Yeah, it don't sit well with me, neither. I'm talking- No, no, no. I can't even focus on the game no more here after dropping them F-bombs and Bs and all. I'm like, hey, hey, see, hey, you know what? You know what that tell me? Hey, Aunt, and- Hey, Aunt, this what it tell me. When I'm playing him, all I got to do is cuss his ass out. See, I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm gonna be fast-summin' I'm dumb as y'all. I'm gonna get in your head, Joe. I'm gonna get in your head, huh? I'll play like that. Okay. All right? Joe B-A. Joe, I think you know what? I- I'm from the South, but me and your background, we got a lot of similarities, Joe. We got a lot of similarities. I think it's- I'll play like that. I think it's the cancer in us. You know, we good people, bro. It's just some stuff we just ain't gonna tolerate. I'm a good person too. I'm a good person too, Joe. Hell no. I know. I know. In the funny part, Ocho, I know we always talk about this, but damn, I worry about my son because y'all got the same birthday. So he kinda, you know- That's my dog. That's my dog. Joe, sometimes I can't even- I can't even form a complete sentence without cursing, Joe. I can't. You know, it's hard for me because it's always been a part of my vernacular, okay? I have an extensive vocabulary, Joe. I just- I just- When you ever you curse, hey, it's like me, it's like me, all right? I'm talking to y'all and I say, you know what, Uncle Joe? Man, I love y'all, man. Now, it means something, but when you say, hey, Uncle Joe, man, I fuckin' love y'all. See, that effin', it adds emphasis on the meaning of what I'm trying to get across to y'all and it means a lot more. Now, I consider and call those sentences hanters. So when you cook, Uncle, you know how to cook. Joe, you know how to cook. It's like cooking with no seasoning. Cursed words is nothing but the seasoning and it adds flavor to what you're trying to get across. That's all.