So True with Caleb Hearon

Grace Kuhlenschmidt Returns

66 min
Jan 15, 20263 months ago
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Summary

Caleb Hearon and returning guest Grace Kuhlenschmidt discuss personal anecdotes about relationships, career transitions, living situations, and social observations. The episode features comedic storytelling about real estate industry criticism, apartment hunting in New York, workplace culture, and Grace's proposal to move Christmas to February or March for better seasonal alignment.

Insights
  • Garden-level apartments in major cities create significant mental health challenges due to lack of natural light and time perception distortion
  • Corporate America's mandatory PTO system creates perverse incentives where workers must use vacation time even when not traveling
  • The four-day work week model shows measurable productivity gains (40% in cited example) when paired with meeting protocols and agenda requirements
  • Geographic location significantly impacts social engagement patterns, with LA's early-bedtime culture contrasting sharply with New York's extended social hours
  • Coming-out experiences are heavily influenced by educational environment and peer groups, with liberal arts colleges providing more supportive contexts than large state universities
Trends
Growing awareness of apartment design's impact on mental health and circadian rhythm disruption in urban livingShift toward four-day work weeks gaining traction in corporate sectors with documented productivity improvementsIncreased criticism of real estate industry practices and broker fee structures among younger rentersLiberal arts college preference among LGBTQ+ individuals due to more progressive campus culturesRemote work flexibility enabling workers to be selective about office attendance and location-based work requirementsGenerational shift in work-life balance expectations, particularly among younger workers rejecting traditional 5-day schedulesRenewed interest in alternative holiday scheduling to address seasonal affective disorder and holiday commercialization concerns
Topics
Apartment hunting and rental market dynamics in New York CityReal estate industry practices and broker feesMental health impacts of garden-level apartments and natural light deprivationFour-day work week implementation and productivity metricsCorporate job culture and mandatory PTO policiesGeographic differences in social engagement (LA vs New York)LGBTQ+ coming-out experiences and educational environment influenceHoliday scheduling reform and seasonal affective disorderRemote work flexibility and location independenceService industry worker interactions and tipping cultureRelationship dynamics and meet-cute narrativesCareer transitions from service industry to entertainmentCircadian rhythm disruption in urban living spacesLiberal arts vs state university campus culture differencesWork-life balance generational expectations
Companies
The Daily Show
Grace Kuhlenschmidt mentioned as currently working on The Daily Show as part of her career
Skidmore College
Caleb's alma mater; discussed as liberal arts school that influenced his coming-out experience versus University of A...
Harvard Law School
Mentioned in comedic context regarding Grace's claimed teaching history at age 9-12
Juilliard
Grace claimed to have taught at Juilliard starting at age 13, discussing process and routine with gathered students
People
Grace Kuhlenschmidt
Returning guest comedian discussing career, relationships, apartment living, and holiday reform proposals
Caleb Hearon
Host of So True podcast, discussing personal experiences with relationships, work, and New York living
Kelly Kuhlenschmidt
Grace's mother, real estate agent; praised by Caleb as 'one of my favorite people' and 'an icon'
Barack Obama
Mentioned in extended comedic anecdote about fictional night out in New York with Rudy Giuliani
Rudy Giuliani
Former NYC mayor mentioned in comedic anecdote about stopping Caleb on a bike ride
Tiffany Thiessen
Actress from Saved by the Bell referenced in comedic anecdote about fictional night out
Hillary Clinton
Mentioned in extended comedic anecdote about fictional island trip
Quotes
"People who work in real estate, many of them need to go to prison. Totally. Many of them are doing unfathomable crimes."
Caleb HearonOpening segment
"I play stay at home mom, even though I'm the breadwinner."
Grace KuhlenschmidtRelationship dynamics discussion
"If I stay home alone for more than 26 hours, I'm going to a dark place."
Caleb HearonMental health and social engagement discussion
"Christmas should be in February or March... We need the cheer when it's needed."
Grace KuhlenschmidtSo True segment
"We're going to a four-day work week... Monday through Thursday."
Grace KuhlenschmidtWork schedule reform discussion
Full Transcript
Wave. People who work in real estate, many of them need to go to prison. Totally. Many of them are doing unfathomable crimes. And I will completely agree with you and even add my mom's real estate. Totally. And I don't know how she's doing her job. No, she absolutely, she used to be locked up. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Ha ha! Ha ha!! We haven't, we haven't episode recording this week at 8 a.m. and Ike for two weeks I've been looking on on the calendar like something has to give. No like how are you gonna do that? Something that people do every day, my dear. No. Go to their job at 8 a.m. I had a thought today where I was like, okay Caleb wants me there at 11 a.m. which means I need to be ready at 10th, I need to leave at 10 30, which means I need to be up by 10 which means I need to be up in the 9s. Yeah, wow. Wow, I'm up in the 9s. Ha ha ha! I have to be up in the 9s to do something not till the 11s. See, you've changed and lost touch. You changed and lost touch. That's, because the great sign now. Oh yeah, she was up. She was in the mines. She wasn't sleeping. At 5 a.m. The way you've changed. You think. Don't you think, and this is only one such example I have many more. Oh really, what are the other examples? Oh, the way you talk to service workers. So honestly, I've always done that. Ha ha ha! I am, oh I've been so fucking consistent. That's not new. That's not new. That's when you work in the service industry. You know it's inside jokes. Yeah. When you say, I'm not tipping. Yeah, when you scream, like, where's my fucking ranch? Right. But baby, you've had ranch. Ha ha ha! You know why someone gets so emotional about it. The idea of you defending that story, you're gonna come on, where's my ranch? It's ranch. Yeah. It's that ketchup. There's a really nice guy. There's a really nice guy who, that actually, by the way, what you said wasn't untrue, ranch over ketchup, because ketchup they just leave on the table. Ranch had to bring out. Completely. And they get weird about it too. And it's like, I know it's a bottle back there. Like, it's not homemade. Bring it out. Because I would hate if it were homemade. I don't like homemade stuff. I don't need that. There's a guy that works at a coffee shop that I go into a lot. He's really sweet. But he's so, I love this. I think I'm the problem here. He's so cheery. And he's like, I walk in. And he's like, morning Caleb, what are we thinking for the holidays? And like, no, and I love it. And I'm like, that is correct. It is ultimately like, I have become like a, until I've had my coffee kind of person. Completely. As I've gotten a little older. And I don't like that. That's human rating. But it really is like forcing me very early in the morning every day to like think about what kind of person I want to be. Absolutely. Because I like to think I'm a morning person in the way that like, I feel better when I'm up in the morning. Yeah. But like, no part of me has ever wanted to wake up like ever, ever, ever. Ever. I can't think of a single day in my life besides like, let's be real Christmas morning. That I have been like, it's I want to get out of bed. I own it Christmas morning. 30 years old. And I'm still like, I've never wanted to get up out of bed except for Christmas morning. Yeah. Just the way that it is. I love that. Yeah. What's the best Christmas gift you think you've ever gotten? Do you have two and a half hours for me to stare into space and think? Yeah. Huh. Okay, this actually isn't a gift that I got. Okay, that's okay. So it's actually, do you mind if I don't answer your question? Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay, cool. I couldn't care. You're so chill about those kinds of things. I'm not like one of those guys. Okay, so this is obviously like I just had not a gift I got, but my neighbors got my neighbors got electric scooters when I was in third grade. Tough. And that was actually, they were my friends. Yeah. So I got to use those scooters and sat that weirdly was for me the best Christmas gifts I ever got because my parents would have never ever gotten that for me. I was sad for you at first because I was like, they got scooters and you didn't, but I never thought about what community could look like. No, seriously, it was so, so beautiful. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay, I just want to say these were Hanukkah gifts for them. Yeah. So this was really like, they had, they had eight of them. Yeah. Yeah, they did. It's cool to use this. This guy really knows Hanukkah. Oh my God. It's true. I wish I was Jewish. But I'm like, they really got gifts, like banger of gifts after banger of gifts. Really? It was amazing. See, I really was my first kind of foray into cultural competence was when I was like, a cultural appreciation was that when I was a kid and I learned that Hanukkah had eight gifts, I was like, wow, other people might be onto something as well. Right. It can't only be Christianity. Right, right. Like that really was eye opening for, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like the eight days of gifts. I mean, completely. There's other ways to think out there. Well, also it's like, I do feel like opening more than a couple gifts on one day is completely exhausting. Oh, it's garish. Nobody needs that. It's amazing. Even when I go to a birthday, like an adult birthday dinner. Yeah. We hand our little whatever to the birthday person. Usually I'm not handing to be honest. I'm pretty bad at giving birthday gifts, but that's because I didn't grow up with birthday gifts. Anyways, when people open and we're all sitting around the dinner table, I'm kind of like, this person needs to be doing this on their own time big time. I don't want to be watching this. Big time. I don't want to be watching you receive gifts. No. You know what I do want to watch? If I write someone a sweet note and they read it in front of me, yeah, I'm into that. Yeah. Which is like, with you kind of, they're reading the note and your mouth is just kind of going along with it. And the way that you, yeah. Yeah. Are you to the point? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Read that line. I feel like you stumbled over a word. Yeah. Read that part back. Yeah. Wow. The crying don't cry. Is there like a best note you've ever written, you think? Oh, my goodness. Gracious. Oh, my goodness. Gracious. Me or mine. The best note I've ever written. Do you know what? I wrote and then did not send a fuck you note to one of my former bosses who fired me from a day job that I had. Oh, my God. Like two years later, I had a really big career, like when? And I wrote a, there was like a publication in a magazine about it. Oh, my God. And I wrote a note on the publication being like, um, working for you as a nightmare. Thank you so much for firing me. Oh, my God. And I, and then I like autographed the thing and I got this close to putting it in the mail and then I was like, hey, so instead, why don't you like check in on yourself? Like I was like, instead of sending this to this person who is a bitch, please. Why don't you go outside and like look at the sky or something? Yeah. Because you clearly have a problem. Yeah. I mean, it was in that moment that I was like, you need to do some reflection. No, I mean, I've completely thought about like if I ever win a Grammy one day. Maybe I will say like, I love my parents. I love my friends and fuck you to like these few people. But it really is like, whoa, that's really, we're getting hot inside. Yeah. And there's taking over. Hey, you're holding on to something weirdly. Yeah, completely. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird to, it's weird to have a moment of what should be joy for you and allow it to be infiltrated by people you don't like. Why would you do that? Because we're hotheads. I always have been. Yeah, we always, that's me and you. We're fucking flying off the end and we don't play by the road. Right, right, right. The moment these mics go down, my arm is just crossing right over here. Yeah, you're gonna hit me. Yeah. Fuck. Okay. If you don't hit me first. No, it's great. If you hit me and I'll come. Oh, awesome. Yeah. We haven't talked about it. That's perfect. I've been up in a long time. I know, but you know what is hard about your podcast. What's up? Is that you treat every girl the same. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. You're very open about the chemistry that you have with every single female comedian in the world. Specifically, Lesbians. I know. There's something going on with me and Lesbians. What is it? I was going to get to the bottom of it. I know. But you know what is so funny? Like, I love that you love Lesbians so much and I like it wouldn't even be possible for a Lesbians love gay guys as much. No. You know what I mean? No. It makes sense. Like, I know I see the path. I see the love like radiate from you on to Lesbians. Yeah. And it couldn't go the other way. It could go to you, but to gay guys in general, the way that you are able to know couldn't happen. I know because the thing about gay guys is I love us. I love gay guys. I love being a gay guy. I love gay guys. We are at the end of the day. That's the thing. And so it's tough. Like, if you find yourself like standing a group of men, it's like, whoa. I know. It's not a cute look. No, I know. In this day and age. I remember years ago I posted some video like making fun of gay guys and this gay guy like responded like classic Lesbians being homophobic and I was like, I'm pretty sure you're a man and if that's what I'm joking about. Yeah. I'm not the fact that you're gay. Pretty sure I'm, yeah. Pretty sure I'm making fun of you for being a boy. Yeah, I'm not saying like, and by the way, butt sex. Wow. What the fuck is that? Stupid man. Yeah. Like, where are you talking about? Yeah. So I'll never criticize you. I know. I never have. I don't think I could even deserve it. I just wouldn't do that to you. I don't know what you could possibly criticize me about anyway. Yeah. Oh my God. This is making me sick. Yeah. Okay. I was out with my friends the other day. Beautiful. Beautiful heterosexual couple. We don't hold it against them. They found love in a hopeless place. They are a beautiful heterosexual couple who I love deeply. I won't say their names just, you know, to be nice. I don't know if they like. Yeah. Michelle and Brock. Yes. M&B is all say, but they were stressed out because they're building a librarian Chicago here right now. No, I was with my beautiful, straight couple friends and I'm going to throw up. I asked them how they met. They have a beautiful relationship. They're so great together. I asked them how they met. They like bumped into each other reading books in a coffee shop and started like making fun of what the other person was reading. And then she left to the coffee shop and then a woman across from that was sitting across and turns to the guy and goes, you idiot, why didn't you get her number? No. He runs out to catch her. I can't find her. She's gone. And then a couple days later they like bump into each other on a train station. Oh my God. Start. No. Sorry. That's. They bump into each other. I'm going to throw up. They bump into each other on a train station. They start dating. It's raining when they get out of the train so they have to step into a bodega. They exchange numbers. They start dating. They're now happily married. I will kill myself before I ever hear a story like that again. My life means nothing. Completely. That's a meet cute in a movie where you're watching the movie and you're going, that's not realistic. Yeah. That's why that's fucked up. It's fucked up. It's because I would see that and go, and that never happens. And when it does like, I've had me. Cutes where I meet someone and I'm like, oh my God, this is such a good way to meet. And then it turns out to be like, it's not the perfect for your meet cute to happen. Your cutest meet cute to happen with your person. Like, I've had a meet cute and then you go on a couple dates and you're like, oh, the meeting is the most good of them around. Because it grounds you brings you back to reality. But then this couple, which, who they sound amazing, I'm sure they are. They've never touched on it again. But they, yeah, it has the problem. They've never touched that since. They think everything is perfect. They're floating ten feet high all the time. Yeah. I just don't like when that kind of stuff happens to other people. Right. No, it's not right. That's not right at all. It's not right. God. They're perfect for each other. I don't like, I don't even know if I've ever even had meet cute. I feel like almost all every, and I'm talking in broad range when I say relationship, every relationship I've had, pretty much has started from some sort of mistake or fuck up on that. And yeah, it's almost all been like, I'm tumbling down a flight of stairs. Okay. Tell me about that. That's just like how, like, I'm just like, nothing cool has ever happened to me in that way. The moment we kiss, then I can be cool as fuck. That I'm like, I got this. It's done. It's done. It's done. Deal. And now I can be cool. But like, the way that it begins is always me being like sending typos in our first few texts and being like, fuck, sorry. Oh, fuck, sorry. You're saying fuck, sorry, a lot. The first five texts are like, fuck, sorry. Just fucking up the you, you're your. Yeah. Who are you in your relationship? Like what are you in my current relationship? What do you, what role do you play in the relationship? Do you think honestly? Yeah. I play stay at home mom, even though I'm the breadwinner. See, this is, but the way that you see, okay, stay at home mom, even though you're the breadwinner. Completely. What is giving stay at home mom? Like I will cook, I will clean. I will. I'm practically unemployed, even though I do have a full time job. But that's like the entertainment industry, you know what I mean? It's like when I'm working like working really hard, I'm an actor, you know what I mean? So you know, I might be working multiple days in a row, but it's not going to compare to anyone else's jobs. No. But I will say like since I was a kid, like I always remember seeing stay at home moms and being like, does look fucking sick. It's a good gig. Oh my God. I'm not going to say it's not difficult. Stay at home mom community, get out of the comments before you even get in there. It's difficult. It's labor. Of course. They're working. They're working the kids. Yeah, they're working. Yeah. But they're working in their house. Right. In pajamas and that's lovely. I also do that and I'm very lucky. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I love that shit. Right, that's the other thing is like there are times I don't need to, I mean I could not leave the house for a full week at a time almost. Really? That's the way my job goes. Yeah, I get to press quick. Well, I do too, but that's not like that's what's getting me out of the house. You know what I mean? I need an external factor to get me out of the house. Like what works the best? Usually work. Yeah. Okay. Nice. My work often won't take me out of the house unless it's to come. I mean, I guess that's not true. Yeah. Actually, like on a day to day when I have free time, there's nothing like any work that I need to do that can be done from home, writing emails, whatever. It will be done from. Can be done from home. If I stay home alone for more than 26 hours, I'm going to a dark place. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not that I don't like spending time with myself. I just need to like spend time with myself at the park, at the grocery store, at the apartment. Yeah. Like I have to see other people. Don't you have to talk to them. I just have to be around other people and things than myself. Something just happens. So you know what is affecting my mental health in this way is that I live in a garden level unit. You do. And so like my bedroom, like technically there are windows, but I would be facing the street at eye level. So I have to have curtains. Almost lost that word completely by the way. I have to have cover the windows. Cover the windows. My brain went. Well, the cover the windows curtains. So I have to have curtains. And then in my living room and kitchen, like I have natural light, but like again, like I'm on the ground. Yeah. And so for me, it's like if I'm home for multiple days in a row, it doesn't even feel like that because there's no time in my apartment. Yeah. There's no daylight and there's no nighttime. Yeah. Because every hour of the day, the lamps are on. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. The time in your apartment is always apartment. Oh, I've Googled so much recently. Like, like Reddit thread, garden level apartment makes me want to die. And honestly, not enough, there's not enough Reddit threads as I thought there would be. Yeah. There's like one where it's like, yeah, I moved out of it and I did feel better. And I remember being like, no, no, no, no, no, no, we need to get, we need to talk. Guys, we just need to talk. None of us are okay, right? Yeah. It's crazy. Do you think it'll move out or just do you know one day? Okay. My rent is really good. Yeah. And that's kind of just what I'm working with at this point. Yeah. It's really hard, like, you know, even if I know I can afford more rent is just one of those things where it's like, well, if I can save on that, might as well. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? 100%. And also in New York, truly, I would be doubling my rent. To find something similar. Yes. Because that's actually how good my rent is. I've been to your place. No, it's pretty gorgeous. It's great. It's a great place. Right. Did you notice the lack of windows? Yeah. I can't, I will kill myself. No, completely. If I live in the garden unit, that's the truth. I can't, I found some, there's two things I can't do. Yeah. I found some incredible apartments in New York that I look at it and it's a garden unit. Can't do it no matter what. No matter how great everything else is, I personally can't do it. And then there's nothing I found where I'm like, whoa, this apartment is awesome. What's going on here? Why is this like so cheap? Yeah. And then you do the Google Street View and then you turn two feet to the left and there's a highway. Yes. Like a raised highway. That happens a lot. Yeah. Well, you know, on Street EZ specifically, I feel like you look up like Fort Green because it's like, you know, everyone in New York is like, that's the ideal place to live. You know what I mean? And it's like, but one block outside of Fort Green is under a highway and that's where all the open apartments are. Yeah. And then you're kind of like otherwise, you're not getting, you're not living anywhere. And also those apartments, their entire business model is trick someone into living here for one year. Right. They'll leave. Right. As soon as that lease is up, they'll leave. Right. But you trick a newcomer to the city into living here for one year and then they'll go. Yeah. They're turning those apartments over. Did you feel like you got tricked when you moved to New York for the first time? Like did you get duped at all? No, they hadn't gotten rid of broker's fees yet and I paid a psychotic, but I want to say my broker's fee was in the six or seven thousand. Yeah, I did what that wants as well of money that I was just like, you can't get this apartment unless you pay it was. And it's crazy. It's like, oh no, like that money's actually gone. Yeah. I remember leaving that apartment where I paid a crazy broker's fee and when I moved out, I kind of was like, oops. Yeah. That wasn't worth it at all. Yeah. Like it doesn't matter that I was there for over two years. Like, I know that's not even that long, but I'm like, it really doesn't matter. Like every day just a few dollars were slipping out of my pocket because of the rest of the fee. More than a few. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. Yeah, they, people who work in real estate, many of them need to go to prison. Many of them are doing unfathomable crimes. And I will completely agree with you and even add my mom's real estate. Totally. And I don't know how she's doing her job. She's being locked up. Lock him up, lock her up. Your mom is one of my favorite people. I know she is so completely epic. She's an icon. She really is awesome. She's everything to me. She's the reason I get out of bed in the morning. She's the light of my life. She's who I think an award shows. She is the mother of my children in some ways. She's my mother in many ways because you guys do have children together. You just are very absent. Yes, we do. She knew when she knew I was a snake when she picked me up. Right. And by the way, it was crazy she got pregnant and her 70s. Yes, but the way things go. I'm extremely virile. Whoa. And not where they've ever heard. So I got your mom pregnant in her 70s. What ever it is. What does virile mean? Technical definition. I think it just means like male version of fertile. Okay. Chance fact check me. Virile. I think so. Oh, Vir, a V I R I A L. Oh, I've seen it. I just never thought to say it out loud. I don't think that's the one. Is it? I think it's V I R I R I I I. That's one of my other favorites. Virile. V I what? V I R I L E. You can just put it on the screen. I dare you. I dare you put it on the screen. Let us see it on the screen. Virile. Yeah. Having strength, energy and strong sex stride. Okay. That is how I would describe you. Yeah. I thought it was more about like the technical like fertility of my seed. You were hoping it was specifically about semen. Yeah. I wanted it to be about my seed. Right. Right. How do you feel about me calling semen my seed? I think it's amazing. I really appreciate it. It's like that. I love it a lot. I like that. Yeah. Okay. Nice. Well, it's just a, you know, calling it your seed, it's easy way to slip it into any conversation ever. Yeah. Oh, the other day I was spilling some seed. Right. Right. That was one of my favorite parts of the Bible as a kid. Is this spilling your seed? Well, they're like, they're like, thou shalt not spill, thou seed outside of a womb on the earth. And I was like, spilling seed is a sick bar actually. Yeah. No, it is a good like, it's a perfect alliteration. It just works. Yeah, coming is so like, what do you have in animal? I know. But spilling seed is a bit like, I know. I know. He spilled the seed. Well, spilling seed is also like the way that I do like to think about it. Yeah. And when I really sit down and I think about sex, straight sex, yeah. I know you're speaking of gay sex, but I'm speaking of straight sex. Yeah. When I think about it, that's how I like to think about it. Yeah. Yes. The man spills his seed. Yes. And the stork brings that baby in. Yeah. I also like, I think my favorite part of his spill because it implies that it's always sort of a haphazard accident. Right. I just, I spilled my seed in there. Like I knocked over a glass of my seed. Oh, fuck. I spilled my fucking seed. Oh, whoops. I'm so fucking sorry. Oh, I dropped my seed again. It's goddamn. Yeah, it's kind of like, it's down to my pocket. It's like Mr. Bean or something. Yes, it is. It's like, oh, there goes my seed again. God. Yeah, whole time it's come. The whole time. The whole time it's come. It's never switches throughout the whole story. Yeah. Hey, by the way, you don't want to know something I realized. I wish you would tell me. Because in my first time ever going on a podcast for the second time. Really? Oh, I found it hard to believe. I know. You're such a fabulous guest. I think that's true. You are. As I said it, I'm kind of like, maybe it's not. No, I think it's true. Do you think it's true that this is your first time being a second timer? Wow. And so I figure I just, you know, I know we've already spoken some bits, but I figure I'll just from here on out do the same things I did last time. Yeah. Yeah. What were the same stories? The number from the first time you were on, probably my favorite memory of having you on, was you talking about that you were, you're like, I was so convinced that I was straight in high school. I thought it was ironic that I was on the softball team. Completely. That is an all-timer. That is an all-timer. And like, I, well, I think what I like about that story is that people are like, come on, she had to know. And it's like, no, I didn't. I didn't have to know anything. I didn't have to know shit. I'm an idiot. I was so focused on not failing out of seventh grade. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't think about sexuality in a way. Yeah. What do I look like? I think about sexuality. I'm literally about to flunk out of my goal. And also, I think I might have said this that on the last podcast, but I do want to reiterate like the boys that I grew up with were smoking hot. Yeah. Say that. So I seriously am like, how is that to know? Yeah. The girls I grew up with dumb as fuck stupid. Really? Yes. Yes. So you had these stupid girls. These dumb, you're like, you're like, the girls for fucking idiots, the boys were fine. I was surrounded by disgusting dumb girls and sexy, sexy boys. Yeah. These are like six and seventh graders, yeah. At the time, yeah. I can speak up into high school as well. Unto? High school as well. Unto? That's so interesting. Yeah. First sexuality, it briefly of course plagued me. And God, I'm happy it didn't stick. I know. Do you think about, is there a turning point in your life where it had something gone a little bit differently? You would have never come out? It's a really good question, Grace. Yeah. Um, no. Really? I think in every lifetime I come out. Whoa. I really do. I just feel it was so overwhelming. She makes me emotional. That's so cute. I'm like, I just don't think I'm capable. I don't think, I guess maybe if I had a different, a different mom, maybe that would be the thing. But that's too far. Like, then you wouldn't exist, right? Then it would be me, yeah. Right. I'm like, with my mom, there's no way. Yeah. Because I'm just so cute. Yeah, I just am so like, she, I am too opinionated and was encouraged to be opinionated. And I don't see how I could ever. What about you? Well, first of all, like, that is so cute and shout out to your mom. Shout out Kelly. Oh my God. She's all right. Unbelievable. Don't mind her at all. I've thought about it like maybe if, okay, from high school, I went to Skidmore College, which is a small liberal arts school in upstate New York. And it was like, if I didn't get into Skidmore, I would have gone to University of Arizona probably. Yeah. And I do think I would probably be straight if I went there. Really? Yeah, I don't see like me like being in sorority life. Like, I know you were like in a fraternity. Yeah. But like, I don't see me as the like, drinker that I was specifically in high school going to a sorority and like realizing anything about myself. I feel you would only be more lesbian. I don't know. To be in a sorority at Arizona State, those girls are munching right. Okay, but I went to an all girls high school. Yeah, and you would do it in any way. And I had not a single club. That's crazy. So what were you thinking? I know. You were just getting drunk with these girls and it was never coming up? No, like so funny. I mean, no, that's not true. Like I had some like weird, you know, sexual moments with my friends. That's not true. Hold on, that's not true. I like literally, no Caleb, we didn't do anything and then I'm like, whoa, we used to like next to each other and do some sorts of shit. Yeah. But it still wasn't like gay in my head. Right. I was like, I know you want to get more specific. What's going on with your friend? Yeah. And having like a guy in your class on video chat. Rick, hello. You know what I mean? That's what it's for him. That's what it's for him. Yeah. Right. It's for him. If it's for him, it's straight. Right. Yeah. So, so what's the problem? I'm not sure. Yeah. But yeah, I do still think there's a chance. I would have never come out. Really? But I think I would have to be a really different person. Of course. And I think it would be dark. And I do think perhaps I would be like, alright. Yeah. Whoa. Nothing. I think I'm capable of that. But I'm just saying like, honey, we're all capable of that. We're all capable of that. All it takes is like one bad day. One bad day. For anyone to be like, you know what? I'm picking up the alt-right flag. I just think it's like if I went to University of Arizona, if I found myself in sorority life amongst too many Republican friends, who knows what would have happened? Yeah. Maybe I would have never come out. Like the least I've been working for a bar stool. Minimum. At the least. Bare minimum. And bare minimum you'd be at bar stool. And by the way, I've thought about that a lot. I'm like there really was like, because I went to a liberal arts school, that's why I'm not on bar stool. Also I was kidding earlier when I said that anyone can be alright. Right. No, I know. You are always making jokes on this podcast. Well, that's the thing is I need to tighten up a little bit. Because people think everything you say is serious. No, I just think it would be nice to get more serious. You know, I'm getting older. I think it would be nice to get more serious. I think so too. You know, stop kidding around so much. Well, honey, you're wearing a hat inside. You know what I mean? If you really want to take yourself seriously, you'd start making these choices. What did you say about my hat? You're wearing a hat inside. Is that not? I don't think that's something that what's the word I'm thinking of that intellectuals is the word that I struggle to think of. Intellectuals do. You don't think I'm intellectual because of the hat? Well, I think if anything could be a fedora. Yeah, really. Would you be so serious right now? What would you do if I was wearing it? Like, if you had walked in here today and I was wearing a fedora and no one was commenting on it, would you say something? Well, first of all, I would have thought it was like a nod to me because I'm a lesbian. I would have been like, oh, God. You goofy guy. But if you looked at me and were like, hmm, then I would have gone fully red in the face, peed my pants a little bit, and been very, very scared. Yeah. Okay. Good to know. That kind of shows the power you have, too. That's nice. Right. I love to be powerful. Yeah, I love that. That's really nice. Yeah. Oh, my God. Is there ever a time in your life you wore a fedora? Yes. Oh, yes. You know when it was? What? I let a bunch of kids on a mission trip, on a youth group mission trip, talk me into shaving my head into the George Costanza haircut. Wait, which one is what again? Hair on the side, ball on top. Yeah, I let them shave my head like that. And then I was like, guys, okay, it's funny. We got the picture, shaved the rest of it off. And they're like, no. And I was like, what? And so then they're like, no, you should keep it like this for the whole mission trip. And I was like, okay, because they were like, that'd be funny. And I was like, okay. And so then I was like, it's really funny. But then we have to go out to dinner and it's not so funny. Yeah. So I was like, it's funny when it's just us, but at dinner, it's not very funny. Right. So I bought a fedora. And I wore a fedora over my bald spot. And then I got a wife spent too much money. I spent like, about a pretty expensive fedora. Yeah. And I accidentally spent too much of my money on it. So then I ran out of food money. No. And then my youth pastor had to lend me money. No. And my mom called me and was like, hey, did the youth pastor have to give you money because you spent too much on a fedora after you shaved your head? And I said, yeah. And then she goes, okay, we'll talk about when you get home, have fun. And that's okay. Yeah. And that's kind of my fedora journey. Right. And I bet this is going to strike the court of millions of people. You are seriously not alone. I speak for we are Charlie Kirk. You shave our head at youth group. We are all Caleb. I just have to say like, you are smart though because if you are trying to tell people, I have air. Yes. But I need to cover the top. Fedora is the move. I am, we are you are Caleb, Aaron. I am Caleb, Aaron. Yes. We are all Caleb. We are all Caleb, Aaron. There's nobody who's not Caleb, Aaron. No. Nobody. Nobody. Everybody listening to this, you are Caleb, Aaron. Yes. Print the shirts, Caleb. You are Caleb, Aaron. Thank you. We are all Caleb, Aaron. And then it's a picture of me in a fedora where you can kind of tell that my head is shaved half bald. Yeah. You see just the sliver. Yeah. It's because it's glimmering. It's shining. I have a picture of it somewhere. Oh, I would love to see. Why don't I try to find it? Okay. Quick. I'm also looking. You watch it. I'm looking for it. Wow. We are Caleb, Aaron. You know what year it was? Buddy. If you think I know stuff like that, 2009. Well, like 15-ish. Yeah. In 2009, I would have been 14-15. Yeah. This is going to take a way to it. Oh, do you know what? I'm not even kidding. While I was growing, do you know what just came up, Grace? What? This picture of us. That picture is so cute. We are so cute. It's really a good one. What year was this? This was 2018. 2018. So cute. I was so in love with you then. I know me too. God knows what happened. That time was so cute. Oh my God. This is the closest we're going to get. Yeah. So that's when they finally shaved the rest of it off. Oh my God. It says, look at how cute your head is. That's when they finally shaved the rest of it off. Yeah. By the way, I meant to say this a couple of minutes ago when you were just telling the story, but I do know you could rock a buzz cut. I think so. In this current day. Yeah. I get scared of it. I know because you do. So. Take these away. You do have like really good hair. And that has been consistent for many a year since I've known you. Thank you. But there's something just about like your skin tone and your hair where I know the buzz cut will work because that's where buzz cuts can get scary. Yeah. Is when someone's the way that those two things contrast, it's not working, but yours, it does. Mm-hmm. I'm scared. No. I'm scared. I'm serious. No. Because I want one. Yeah. I want a buzz cut. Right. But maybe think about how easy showers will be. There's always a cry before you get in. You know, it tells you like you can't do it. Right. And then you have your good friends that across from you and say that you could. Right. That's me. You know, I am Caleb Aaron. We are all Caleb Aaron. Yeah. Maybe I'll do it. Yeah. You I've had to have a petrifying thought of. By the way, is that? Are you really? I got a little bit of tears. I was kind of locked in in the scene there for a moment. Right. Yeah. It was beautiful being in the scene with you. It was really beautiful. Yeah. And you really I'd stand by what I said. We are Caleb Aaron. What were you saying? Okay. God bless me one day. I will play a lesbian in a TV show or a movie. I don't know. One day. One day it'll happen. I don't think so. No, I know because there are two busy casting straight people. Yes. However, yeah. This is not a political statement. By the way, they're great actors. People are great actors. Yeah. I will I've always said that. Yeah. But I do kind of think that. If I only have one role in my lifetime, one lesbian role in my lifetime, there's a good chance that it's some for some reason a lesbian in the 80s. Wow. I just think that's in the cards for me. If that is true, we're talking really, really short hair. Yeah. And I just do feel like, you know, if I'm going to finally get my role of playing a lesbian in something, it's going to be with the most fucking stupid haircut I've ever had to experience in my whole life. And I will just have to have that. Yeah. Are you going to get the cut for real? I think I will because I'm a serious actor. Okay. I can't wait. I have I auditioned for something somewhat recently where they were like, would love to know if you would cut your hair and it was a really bad haircut. And I told my agent like, let's say yes. And she was like, no, Grace, I don't think you should. She was genuinely just like this. She was like, I don't know. Like I don't think it will look that good. Yeah. Like she was really projecting me there. You have to wake up the day this movie wraps. Exactly. Exactly. You have to live in that hair. But I was ready because I'm really serious. You're committed. You studied at Juilliard. And what didn't you have a- I didn't study at Juilliard Caleb, I taught. Oh, fuck, I'm sorry. Yeah. How was that? How did that come about? I don't know. I was 13. Yeah. And I honestly was just walking around that campus. Wherever it is. You were walking around Juilliard when you were 13. Uh-huh. And I started talking to some people and slowly people started gathering. More and more and more. Yeah. And next thing I knew, they asked me to come back the next day. What were you talking about? What was I talking about? What were you talking about that people were gathering? I was talking- I was honestly talking about- Process? Yeah. Yeah. I was talking about process. I was talking about, you know, having a routine. Because at 13, that's all you have. Sorry, just so I'm clear. Because I want to make sure I understand when you were 13, living in Los Angeles. Yeah. You were walking on the campus of Juilliard. Which is? Talk in New York. Uh-huh. Talking about process. Wasn't sure. But- And routine. And people started gathering. Yeah. And they liked it so much. They asked me to come back the next day. Okay. Yeah. And when you went back the next day, just so I understand. Right. So how was it for the teaching position? Yes. It was a salary position. Huh. Which by the way, I wasn't making a lot. You know, teachers don't make a lot. Yeah. It was like 65 K. So obviously for 13, that was pretty good. Yeah. But, you know, hindsight. It wasn't that great. Had you taught before that? Yeah. Where? It's embarrassing. Harvard. Yeah. Yeah, because it's not your part of the problem. Well, and it also just wasn't Harvard though like it was Harvard law Yavoc and so yeah at 12 11 10 Not nine. Yeah stop. Yeah, you were teaching at Harvard law when you were nine. Yeah, wow honestly same exact situation by the way Yeah, I was just walking around the campus. I'm processing routine. Yeah as you do you were also on Epstein's flight logs Well, there's a lot of things Wikipedia says about me. Yeah, and that that thing that it says about me But that was when you were much older. That was like two years ago Yeah, you were just still taking the plane and so because that's the thing is like I just do feel like No one when they were trying to release Epstein's list No one was saying if they were on it or not, so I honestly just raised my hand. Yeah And that's unfair because he had already passed when you were on the jet exactly it wasn't even going to that place anymore. No So it really was just bad luck. Yeah, like wrong place wrong time Yeah, that whole thing was a mess. He was a friend right Yeah, and we I mean you were very close to being there also On the island Yeah, yeah, I couldn't make it he had asked me Jeffrey texted me yeah and said hey, we're going to get the jet to the island this weekend Yeah, do you want to come we're gonna get into some stuff and I had said what kind of stuff you getting into and he said I don't really text about it would come through right and I was going to go that was on my way to the Airship I was making my way to the air strip. I was city biking and a voice yelled out to me. Okay, and said Caleb And I turned and it was Oh, I forget his name he was the mayor of New York for a time Rudy Giuliani It was Rudy. Yeah, and do you remember Rudy Giuliani from being the mayor of New York? Yeah, I do he was yelling out to me from about day And I looked over this is 13 yeah, and I looked over and he was in there with Barack Obama mm-hmm and was Was her name Hillary no, she was Already on the island. I was gonna meet up with her there. She did this was the girl who played It was really to you, honey Barack Obama and the girl who played the lead girl and say by the bell I never watch that show Kelly Kelly Kelly Ripa Kelly Cap House Kelly Kelly what was her name Jennifer Er not Jennifer love you it. What was her name the girl played the lead and say by the bell Lee girl and say by the bell Bernette the actresses. Yeah Tiffany in Bertiffin a Theson Tiffany Theson Oh, God, it is Rudy Brock and Tiffany in the Padega. They were playing dice and I He said complete dice this and I did and then we got cross-faded in there right and I missed the fucking fight Yeah, and so I know I still don't know what they got up. I know that is like That I know that's one of your biggest regrets. Yeah, yeah, yeah Tiffany's incredible Really cards and dice. Yeah, she really she yeah, she really is something And she was doing dice and you were like playing poker Yeah, well, it was well ended up being a long night. Yeah, we I woke up a Bender the next a bender Yes, a proactive a better term and Yeah, I woke up Rudy had a left around three or four he went to Afters at club coming or something. There's been going on club He was trying to get a group. He was like let's go to club coming out I was like I was just there the other night and I I woke up with Baroque not in the same bed, but in a hotel room in a Linux city with Barack and Yeah, the cast the cast of let's say about the bell had come really all of them had come through That's so cool. They're also so close. Yeah, they are and Yeah, we had we ended up in a Linux city But it was fun to see those guys ahead and see them in a minute right and yeah, that's one of those things about New York You're doing this you're not even making eye contact with me It's like the most trying to be like How long is he going here? It's the most useless bit to begin with yeah, but then to also never let it in It is amazing is I think why I think it's an all-timer. I think I mean what do we think that was four four minutes? Minimum that's New York, you know you go out thinking your nights can be one thing you end up at the and then you that's New York That's New York. Yeah, that's New York to me. That's my New York anyway at this point Do you feel like okay New York is so fucking awesome? What do you mean because you've lived here for a little bit now a little bit But you still kind of go all over. Yep, so now are you like I love New York or you like New York is so kind of New York to me Well, here's the funny thing my friends in New York cuz you were pretty a laypilled here We go. Okay, so this is exactly what I'm trying to go into that conversation. I'm just saying I just don't want to Yeah, I don't have tension. I don't have a confrontation a lot of my friends who lived in New York before I moved here They're like you totally flipped flipped on New York and I'm like, that's actually not true I have always loved New York. Yeah, and always hated many things about New York Right, and I still hate all of those things about New York. Mm-hmm, and I live here anyway Why did that happen? Well, I love LA But I was tired of being 29 years old and texting people to go out and do stuff and they're telling me that they're in bed and it's 9 p.m Right, I couldn't do it anymore. I was like this is gonna be really appropriate in 15 years, right now We need to everyone like needing to get to bed so they can wake up for a sunrise yoga class, right? That's not the space that I'm in and I'm not even a part of your or anything like that I just want to be doing stuff. Yeah, so I'm loving New York. Yeah people people do things. Yeah, people have a life here People do stuff and that's LA. It's like very People do stuff in LA for sure, but it's just my my most frequent experience in LA was that myself included We would go out to a dinner or a drink and then the night was over. Yep, and I'm like I'm looking for a little more Right, right, right definitely. That's all yeah, yeah, and that is what in New York has and when I go to LA I find myself on the sleep Just being there. Yeah, yeah at the wheel Yeah, I'm falling asleep with the wheel. No, it is nice. I mean, it's like I do I did have a great time in LA I like it's like There's something really great about the pace in LA sometimes. It could be lovely. Yeah When you want that pace LA is to die for yeah But I also get that when I go to Kansas City I'm like Kansas City has stuff going on, but it's like a nice place to like relax as well So how do I feel about New York? Well, I love it. I just need to know when I'm supposed to come to Kansas City anytime But like let's go can you tell me like give me like an option or two of like best weekends to come yeah, and I'll be there Okay, unless you feel like it's actually so all around awesome that I just can come at anytime you can come at anytime And we'll have a great time. Yeah, I would say I I'm kind of encouraging everyone all the time to come for the benefit show with the tenant union in the fall Yeah, it's always a blast, right and it's like a big fun night and a great bill every time. Yeah We can come to Kansas anytime babe. Yeah come stay at my house I was just talking about doing a writing retreat there to finish up some projects that we need to finish Not who was who did you say homes Chelsea homes? I'm familiar completely. Do you know they were they were an IO person no non-binary. I don't think so a lot of overall We were in Chicago really dark brunette Want for a couple months one. Yeah, no, I don't know Yeah, non-binary totally used to drink quite a bit I do think I'd be familiar right now, right? I'm trying to think if there's anything else that you would think I know who that is They were in over compensating bini Skinner show. I know every I feel like I can list everyone on that cast by Yeah, that's just don't know it obviously tough. I'm not so close with them, but I used to be right right right But that sounds amazing. Yeah, and I will I will join for that. Grace. I have a question for you. Yeah, what is so true to you? Okay, I feel I here's what I need to preface this with okay I'm absolutely open to I'm completely open to like any Thoughts people have on this, but I want to just say I'm really passionate about it And so I really want people to before they kind of go what just stick with me here, okay? What's so true is that Christmas should be in February or March. Yeah easy Done done. Yes. Yeah, okay, and my main reasoning being that We're filming this right now in December and it's like I'm having an amazing time It's snowed a couple days ago. There's still snow outside, which is fucking beautiful. Yeah, the snow is not dirty and all the Christmas lights and everything are up and it's magical In February and March New York specifically will look so horrible yes And as did Chicago when we lived there and as it upstate New York when I've lived there. Yeah, it will look so horrible and there's not a Christmas light to be seen we need the cheer We need the cheer might also can I just say yeah two major holidays in November and January already Thanksgiving in my birthday. Yep, so To have Christmas in December is a little bit like what's just like relax move it to March. Yeah when it's needed when it's needed Yeah, that's what Jesus would want. I like that And here's the deal is also it gives us time to like admire and and In celebrate these other holidays Hanukkah and Kwanzaa. Yeah Christmas. Just absolutely fucking steam rolls the others. Yeah, it's not right. Yeah, and It's potentially important to know that Christmas it does come from a fictional storybook. Yeah And so I do think let's change it. Let's change it. Let's take what we can. Okay. We can't change Um What's it called when now the lights the sun goes down early winter No, you guys know like I'm the equinox. No, come on. Dayla. Dayla savings. We can't change dayla savings. They won't let us we should though We should but I swore a few years ago. There was major articles saying that someone was trying She know what I've been saying for a long time. What we should have it should be one time everywhere If it's one New York I already know hold on hold on if it's one PM in New York and it's daytime Then it's one PM in Australia. It's one PM in London and it just means different times for different places It's one PM everywhere you go. Hey, do you have a phone call one PM tomorrow? You say that? Everyone it's one PM But some people would say no because one PM is the middle of their night So then You go it's like okay, so you know No, you have to do you know I get you so much math About the times that's easy for me, but can Danielle. It's easy for me too. I love addition It's one of my favorite math forms okay and subtraction. Okay. Well, I'm not saying it's difficult I'm just saying it's silly and superfluous to be doing that we could have one time everywhere Okay, I'm hearing you like I want to be fully agreeing with you. Okay. I just have a few questions Ask them my first question is like so then like what hours of the day do people work? They work Whatever the like day like like so They work like whatever the case you know how you know You said that like five times. I'm so on to the long you know right now. It's like nine to five That's like the classic one right that's the classic one. That's the one. I know I love that's the totally classic one Yeah, but instead it would be like okay You're gonna work sunrise for seven hours Or whatever we would find a way to do it. Okay. Okay. I like that People waking up at sunrise every day No, we would find a standard way that's kind of where I wanted your answer to go So it is still based on sunrise. It's based on sunrise But I think the tricky part is then like you know sunrise changes a couple minutes or so every day maybe totally Right guys. So what I'm saying is like you wouldn't do it day by day. Okay, like in like say a new say we were gonna set New York as the standard Okay, that you'd say okay New York's work day is nine to five. Well, that means that L.A.s work day would be Uh like you know Freaking Freaking and there's would be like whatever their hours were of course Don't make the man do math so it'd be like okay Our just nine to five there's just new into eight Because that's out there Do you know what I mean like that's where the sun Do you understand There's what I was saying I think the sun will the sun rotates. Yep Yeah, so I just want to make sure though that we are not having are you having places Where it will be dark for their Their work day work hours. No Okay, so you're trying to avoid that no, is that my question to like avoiding that that's totally avoided me saying is that my question to you That confused right and I've avoided it and I want to tell you when we make this change we're also going to a four-day work week Yeah, that's huge. We're going to a four-day work week. That is so impactful Kayla Monday through Thursday. I really want you to follow through on this Monday through Thursday No, I don't want you to I don't want to text you in a week and you go. Oh, I dropped this idea. No, no I want you to really make this happen. I think you can four-day work week is the moderate proposal. Yeah Five and two is one of the most Fucked up. It's things I've ever heard because I literally and I really am saying this was so much immense privilege because I rarely work Five days a week. Yeah, but I seriously it's like Friday at six p.m. Comes around and I'm like great. It's already Saturday. Yeah, and then Saturday. Well, that's Monday, honey Yeah, that's how depressing Sunday's Tuesday. Yeah, it's not right. It's not right. This isn't working. I remember a friend of mine Um his job like maybe six years ago switched to four days a week and like actually productivity and his whole work I know this is like everyone knows this kind of thing and Europe does this show all the time But his the productivity over his whole workplace like every employee went up 40 percent. Yeah Well, because a lot of those places that are switched to four-day work weeks They put in other protocols as well where it's like no meetings without an agenda No agenda is longer than a page like they they put things in place It's a bummer because my favorite kind of meeting has no agenda, right? But I understand it for people who are at work for productivity Yeah, for productivity. Yeah. Yeah, your opinions are lazy Is that what it is? I'll let you say that they just fuck off for the middle of entire days and more months Sorry, I like I do I'm actually going back. We're gonna keep the times the way they are and we're gonna work eight to seven Really yeah, I just decided that seven. I love America I just got really good. Are you going to five now? No, I don't think Europeans are lazy I'm quite jealous and that's where that came from yeah, yeah, yeah I'm jealous of the way they treat work right. I mean they made the yeah you see their salaries and you go I understand why you're getting the time off but okay, I mean no that is crazy Europe gets they I mean my friend who lives in France. She has like all of August off. Yeah, all of it Yeah, how's that possible? I'm unsure. I'm jealous I'm completely jealous. Yeah, this is me off But here's something with my Christmas idea say it. I realize that the hardest Mental block for people will be that you know Christmas time. Yeah, is our biggest like work break of the year Right, but I'm saying we're adding more. I'm saying now we we keep our Christmas time off. Yes for Hanukkah and Kwanza Yes, and for New Year's I want to I want to thank you by the way for go for adding Kwanza into the whole mix Of course, you've been really fighting for Kwanza. I'm really fighting for Kwanza and that's beautiful. Well, absolutely. Yeah, do I know really very much about Hanukkah or Kwanza? No, no, but you know what that's okay Realistically, I know very little about Christmas as well. I know what all about much. Yeah, I know Santa honey Unmearded. That's what I know. Yeah So what I'm saying is if we do Christmas in I want to do February, but let's say March why not yeah But maybe we should do February just there's still snow on the ground. Do you know what else we could do? Hmm Every month. Yeah, we work the first Second and third week of the month Oh, hold on what about this? Okay January. Yeah, we work. We don't work the first week of the month Why would be second third and fourth we work yeah Then we work the first second and third of February We don't work the fourth week of February we don't work the first week of March and we keep going in that pattern where there's like six weeks in a row sometimes where we're all working But then there's two weeks where we're not and we do that all year round baby. I think that's how it should be That's a good one because the moment that like a couple um Uh, like national holidays are over and you're the beginning of the year Honestly looking at the calendar is really dark. It's tough It's really dark. You'll be in like February and you'll be like oh shit So we're straight up waiting till fourth of July. Yeah, that's our next like bro to have a day off Yeah, but in my system, it's not like that. I know and if we I think this will say to whoever's listening if you if anybody is in charge of this How we do this? I'll keep the time the way it is I will give on the time okay as a Concession if we do my weeks plan yeah Yeah, if anyone listening has control over that stuff But you don't want to do you want to do six weeks Well, I just thought it would be nice because then it that creates the reality where we have two weeks off in a row sometimes I know and the two weeks off is very special especially for vacation kind of stuff Be patient But I was thinking like what if just the first week of every month is off Well, I thought that too, but then the reality is you never get two weeks in a row off I know unless you want to use your pto right yeah You could use it in a row and two weeks talking to friends with corporate jobs like My friend last week was like what are you doing today and I was like I'm like, you know waiting to see if I'm going into work or not But what are you doing? He's like I took the week off and I was like how and he's like I had vacation time I had to use and I truly am like what does that mean yeah How that doesn't make any sense like I'm happy for him But that's why corporate America is so bizarre. It's crazy He literally was like yeah, I'm not going anywhere So I just I'm going to take a week off even though I am at home in New York. Yeah, just because he should I know I know I know I have to take that time. I know, but it's just so funny. Yeah I guess I've just never worked a corporate job in my whole life. I have I did service to this you did yeah, you did I remember that yeah I remember that and I remember you and your corporate job. I what yeah, it was not pretty crazy It was not pretty. No wasn't I was showing up to those offices with an outsized attitude I I do feel like you were like borderline getting in trouble sometimes. Oh border honey borderline. Okay. I was in trouble It wasn't even getting in I existed in trouble. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I was yeah, I would hit the sweet spot I would get a new job and I would do I would do what I call hitting the sweet spot. Mm-hmm. Which is where you work Oh little hard for two weeks. Yeah, we're in everybody over personality style take all your sick days quickly Take any PTO that you've accrued and then just kind of wait for the fire you work right right I yeah, I was really I was focused on comedy only Yeah, was not worried about those day jobs Well, no, and why would you have been looking for benefits because I was also like I'm on my mom's health insurance Sure, until she's a nurse. So I I was on her health. I was lucky to have like a decent health insurance plan That's amazing. I was like I got to Chicago when I was 21 or something 2122 And I was like I got a couple years of not having to think about benefits right I'm doing whatever I want Yeah, also how like amazing but also depressing that the only thing that you really cared about was health insurance Yeah, and that's what most people cannot get at all That's why they don't oh my god That's why they don't want us to universalize health insurance is because of the distance and device only people working bad jobs Exactly, yeah, they want us to Michelle was going over there Oh foods here foods here. I didn't know we were still ordering food. I love that. Did you dad get something? Nice. I got something too, by the way. Did you? Yeah, you're gonna eat one soon just something for you to know what your Lunch that your crew got yeah today This is how my boy is doing That this restaurant is my I'm really gonna ball out for take-out It's my sushi spot where I'm like I can't believe I'm doing this Let's go so you're so happy. Yeah, I'm really fucking happy making you happy is my only goal. I know Do you want to play game? Yeah, okay Grace Mr. Ball ready just seeing that clipboard You know what time it is Grace I'm gonna read you 15 statements you're gonna tell me as quickly as you can if what I just said was true or false if you get 10 or more correct We're gonna give you 50 US dollars That's it. It hasn't gone up since last time I was here. No This is yeah, now you get sushi The food fighters formed in 2000 false balls 1994 Michelle Obama went to Yale for undergrad True false Princeton mobile is the capital of Alabama True false Montgomery the clown from Stephen King's it is played is named Pennywise true true The blackberry was invented in California true false water in Canada Skidmore College was originally the young women's industrial club True true dogs have three eyelids False true fuck Marge Simpson's mother's name is Madeline true false Jacqueline Mariska Hargote went to Hoover High School False false Marymount High School identical twins don't have the same fingerprints True true Wal-Martin Target opened their first stores in the same year True true the current mayor of Chicago is Brandon Johnson Oh, I don't know True true snowweppers can leap up to 50 feet in a single jump True true Jupiter is the largest object in our solar system False false it's the Sun doctors who are liver specialists are called hepatologists true true how'd she do an incredible comeback for the ages 10 Wow Hell yeah, Queen Crew comes lifts me up in my chair They're not allowed to move Last time Yeah, did you why didn't win oh, I didn't know that oh my god. How does my money come in cash? Is it sell? Not to ask it was so nice to have you on How does my money come I got we love you grace tell people where they can find you You can drag off in handcuffs Grace I love you so much. I love you so much. Thanks for doing it again, buddy. Of course. I love the so true fan base And I really love being here. Do you want to tell people where they can find you? Yeah, you can find me on Instagram tic-toc and and other platforms at gkuhli nschmidt yeah and On the daily show and Right now I think that's about it for me. Okay. It's a lot. Hey pretty good. Love you. I love you. I