Drink Champs

#Throwback Episode - w/ Brand Nubian | (Ep.69)

127 min
Feb 25, 20263 months ago
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Summary

Drink Champs hosts interview Brand Nubian members about the group's formation, early hits like 'All for What' and 'Slow Down,' internal conflicts, and their cultural impact on hip-hop. The conversation explores the Five Percent Nation's influence on their conscious rap style and reflects on the golden era of 1990s hip-hop.

Insights
  • Conscious rap and knowledge of self were competitive advantages in 1980s-90s hip-hop, creating mental discipline that separated artists from peers
  • Group dynamics and ego management are critical challenges when equals transition from mentee-mentor relationships to collaborative partnerships
  • Record label contracts from the pre-digital era created massive revenue gaps for artists as companies monetized digital rights never originally negotiated
  • Geographic markets (North Carolina, LA, South) were equally important to New York for hip-hop success, challenging NYC-centric narratives
  • Podcast format allows deeper artist storytelling and cultural preservation compared to traditional radio or music industry coverage
Trends
Resurgence of interest in 1990s golden era hip-hop and artist legacy documentation through long-form audioFive Percent Nation philosophy gaining renewed relevance as counterculture to modern materialism in rapArtists pursuing independent ventures and podcasts as alternative to traditional label constraints and creative controlGenerational divide in hip-hop between conscious/political messaging and current trap/drill aestheticsDigital rights litigation (Chuck D vs Universal) exposing systemic artist compensation gaps from pre-streaming contractsPodcast sponsorship model enabling artists to monetize directly without label intermediariesCultural gatekeeping debates around who belongs in hip-hop and authenticity standardsSubstance abuse and PCP epidemic of 1980s-90s as historical context for hip-hop's survival and artistic outputGeographic hip-hop scenes (Yonkers, Mount Vernon, Harlem) as distinct cultural and commercial marketsKnowledge-based discipline as alternative to street credibility for building artist authority and fan loyalty
Topics
Brand Nubian group formation and member dynamicsFive Percent Nation philosophy and hip-hop culture1990s hip-hop golden era characteristics and legacyRecord label contract exploitation and digital rightsConscious rap vs. commercial rap tensionsGeographic hip-hop markets and regional successArtist independence and podcast monetizationGroup breakups and ego management in musicHip-hop authenticity and cultural gatekeepingSubstance abuse in 1980s-90s hip-hop sceneDJ culture and production in early hip-hopMusic sampling and beat reuse disputesHip-hop education and knowledge transmissionGenerational differences in hip-hop valuesPodcast as cultural preservation medium
Companies
Tommy Boy Records
Label that showed interest in Brand Nubian early in their career before they signed elsewhere
Elektra Records
Major label that signed Brand Nubian and released their albums during the 1990s
Atlantic Records
Parent label involved in Brand Nubian's record deal structure during their career
Universal
Mentioned in context of Chuck D's lawsuit over digital rights not covered in original contracts
iHeartMedia
Distributes the Drink Champs podcast as an iHeart Podcast
People
Lord Jamal
Brand Nubian member interviewed; discusses group formation, Five Percent philosophy, and solo career
Sadat X
Brand Nubian member present during interview; discusses group dynamics and creative process
Grand Puba
Brand Nubian founding member; instrumental in group formation and record label negotiations
Chuck D
Referenced for winning lawsuit against Universal over digital rights in original contracts
Biggie
Mentioned as contemporary artist and cultural figure from 1990s hip-hop era
DMX
Referenced as contemporary artist; hosts drank with him outside Rush management office
Rakim
Mentioned as influential MC from the era Brand Nubian emerged
Eric Cook
New artist featured on Drink Champs; represents next generation of hip-hop artists
Quotes
"We wanted to preserve hip hop. This guy, I know this guy, 20 years. He hates Sarato. He likes, he's a real hip hop dude. I'm talking about real, real pure, pureness."
Drink Champs hostMid-episode
"When you got knowledge, they don't give a fuck. What the fuck you, huh? You better know the American lessons and you're gonna get your fucking ass work."
Lord JamalKnowledge of Self discussion
"It'll never be like that again. It'll never be like that again in New York. Nigger's don't understand. That's why they call us legends."
Brand Nubian memberDiscussing peak popularity
"The thing that saved me from never being a fiend or all that type of shit, was one having knowledge itself. That's right. That's right."
Lord JamalSubstance abuse discussion
"You're a guest in this house. Right, we're in a hotel right now right. Do you feel any bad way about being a guest in this hotel. No, I don't."
Lord JamalHip-hop gatekeeping discussion
Full Transcript
This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be trying to be like them. You know what I mean? Trying to be sharp like them. Trying to be smart like them. These guys have still and they still have you on the internet. You've seen them all the time. They out there. We got two of them. I was hoping to have the whole three. But we got two and we ain't mad. We're going to give the other. We're going to still praise the other brother. Of course. Like he's here. Now Brad Nubian. Y'all off from Nugal Shell? Yes. Originally. Born in the Bronx. Okay. I believe Poo-Bah is born in the North Shell. I believe Poo-Bah is born in the North Shell. Okay. So how did this start? How did this y'all get together? And say, I'm going to be a three man group. Well, y'all rhyming individually? Yes. Well, basically, long story short. Poo-Bah had a group called Master of Cermon. He's back in the days. Okay. And they had like two hits cracked out in sex. Okay. And then he did a little bit of the grand pool. You know what I mean? That was the joint back then. So whatever. Back in those times, he started working with me as a solo artist. And he started working with X as a solo artist. And he was not, yeah, producer. Not like that. Well, kind of. Yeah. Kind of. I made beats. He's not a play in all that. Instruments and all that. And I was listening for the loops and all that type of shit. So, you know, long story short, I used to go to the shows with them and all of that. And the back of my mind, I'm like, I'm going to kick your cousin out the group. I want to hear him. Master of Cermon. I felt like his cousin was as nice enough to really, he was a good dude. I love him. Shout out to Dr. Who. But he wasn't, you know what I mean? I could tell he wasn't about that life really. He just was doing it. I was like, I'm going to kick up. I remember we walking through the mall one day. And he's kind of like, damn, I know what we should do. That I said, you know what you're talking about. Yeah. And I said, yo, we need to meet you. And, and X. We need to make a group, son. You know what I mean? Because it'd be better than trying to shop three deals and all that. We just make a group on some three MCs. Shit. Word. Now, I don't know when he hit him about it. He hit him, man. Like what years is around? What time? 18, 18, 18, 18, 17, 18, 18. I hope you're not going to come up with that name, brand new beer. We'll see you later. We'll see you later. We had a little name session. You see, you can walk in the back. We shopped. Brand new beer. We shopped for a deal with no record and no name. What? I just like you know. Because the nigga Poo-Baw. You know, he had, he had motherfuckers open from sexy and cracked out of no, those was big records in New York and a little bit nationally. So, what you're up? So, he was able to call up record companies and be like, yo, it's grand poo-baw. I want to meet him or whatever. We walk in there and no music. So, we did a few of these. You know. What you're saying? Yo, I think we just went in there. Put your phone in there. What the fuck you were saying? He was doing that. He was a little old then. He was trying to ask me. He was like, big happy. So, he was doing that. So, we go to the town of town. He was like, yo, Poo-Baw, I love you. I'm with whatever you doing. Baw, blah, blah. He's like, but yo, you know, I need to hear you guys or whatever. You know? Make a demo or something and come back. So, he was like, yo, you know. It took us like two weeks to like scrounge up the time up at Jazzy J Studio, Strong City Studio, Upper Alton Avenue, and the Bronx. Just chilling in the studio waiting for Nick to finish the session. When it's seen if a nigga feel like doing his shit. He's letting us even play records in the North. What, what do you want to meet? So, finally, we get the song done. We go down there. It's one song. We play the shit form. He's like, oh, this shit is crazy. You tell me where people are. At Tommy Boy, you know, that's a raw, that Tommy Boy. And so, at that point, he was like, yo, I just got a job at a lecture. Like, I want to bring you all over the head. Like, you know, the bigger label, that and all that. We was hyped off the Tommy Boy shit. Okay, my soul was dead at that time. Like, that was popping. So, he was like, all right, fuck it. He was like, all right, but, you know, so what's your name? And he was kind of like, you look back on the, yeah, we're going to get back to you at that, huh? We went back to Strong City, had a little naming fucking session. Don't have a tight day on the air shit. Noob being forced. So, we're kind of creating a full line. He's like, what's the name of the movie? We wanted some, yeah, some like positive conscious type of shit. I came out on the era where like, that was kind of like the thing to do, like, to be, to have, to have Nile's or something. Yeah, but, they wasn't doing it for that. For the party. For the party. But, ain't it funny how there was actually an era where Nile's or something was actually cool. Yeah, yeah. Nile's, and it can be again. It can be again. And it was, it was like real niggas was having Nile's or something. Like, even though they was doing it for the same, like, like, street niggas, Jesus. And he was scared. I had no idea. Boy, you got all the makings, yeah. Okay, so now, yeah, I just, your name, yeah, but they're thinking about naming yourself. And so, we came up with the name up there that night. Brand new. That should still just sound so fly. And then you know what's crazy? It's not only that brand new being just sound so, like, distinctive, right? But then the individual name is still, the Lord Jamal. So, Da X and Grand Hood Boy, like, how the fuck did he come up with that name? What the fuck did he come up with that name? What does that mean? He was, he was Grand Poole of Maxwell. Grand Poole of Maxwell. And so, back in the days when we was kids, like, like, like I said, he a little bit older than us. So, so Grand Poole of Maxwell was like, uh, he was like a famous MC in New World before he even made records. Like, I know niggas that had flyers of him taking today wall and all like, he was like Grand Master Caz of Nurechelle back in the days. You understand? At that time of Cole crushing all that type of shit, you understand what I'm saying? So, yeah, that's just, I don't know how he fully got that name, right? I think there is a story about it, like, you know, because the Flintstones, there was a Grand Poo ball on there. Some shit with a lot of shit. Yeah, some shit like that. Yeah, some shit. I know, it was, remember, it was, I remember I first seen, like, when he had the flyer, like, he was on a man, remember, man, dip like, man, dip like was a main flyer person who made all of them hip hop flyer. Promoter. Promoter. And if your face got on one of them flyers, then that meant something. He got on a dip like flyer? Yeah, he was on that shit. I seen that. She was like, okay. So now, what was the first record where you thought it was like, man, this is it. This was the first record that it broke out for you on it worked. What was the record? Where you knew it? It feels so good. Where you knew it? It feels so good. I don't remember that one. Yeah, see, we had a first, so they gave us a single deal and they said, I, if you like, if this shit goes in, we're going to give you our album. So we put out a record called brand new being on the A side. Okay. And then the song called, feels so good on the B side. Now, in the beginning, we kept getting plagued with like, using the beat and other niggas using it. Before we get a chance to put the shit out, how you doing? Oh, you saw it like the same. That was a full on beat. Oh, boy. You got, you know, you know, don't let it go to your head. Right. I had that. You got that. That's crazy. Okay, just have that. You got the other way, say, it's a crazy shit. Right. I had that on the War Report album. And I swear to God, this is a story. I swear to God, I have a couple of, I, I, I, I, I can't do that. I played a record. I had on that, on that joint. That beat, but what I was saying on the beat was, I'm leaving on the next night. I don't know where I'm going. So the shit, nori, no this, nori, no that. I had it on there. I had it for the War Report, right? And try to, I'm posted. Yo, that's dope. And try to work to the studio. And he was like, you think you popped daddy now? You're sampling records. He was like, this shit is wack. This shit goes south. And I was like, War her. And I, and I never put this shit out. And the next week, you brought up on the top. You just brought the record. I was like, I told you. You were like, you were right. I was wrong. I'm going to drop the record. I swear to God. I'm going to pop it out. I'm just, I'm just going to pop it out. So we got the demo form. It was called Ain't Going Out Like That. We sample some James Brown shit. We think, you know, that's going to be popping. By the way, man, Kumo D puts out, um, I'm going to work. I'm going to meet that guy. It wasn't as raw as our shit. But it was the same time. If you remember, Kumo D was the man. It was him and the other one. We're not battling against him. You know what I mean? So then we ended up picking these next two singles. And like, so we had the, um, the cameo says, bam, everybody brand new being. I suppose I'm not. Henry, what's the role of the encode all of that? So now, so now. You man, heavy dealing that up using that beer. So that kind of fucked that one up too. Then we had to feel so good. And then we're so awesome. But they said that when you say it happen to be you saying sample, why? I'm saying the same exact thing. It's the same sample. Right. But they everybody's sampling in their own way. So these were all variations of the same shit. So now I remember it was playing the niggas who had our feel so good during the band. I was playing a shit like every day. You know, whenever they played new records. I'm like, I'm hearing the shit. Come on. I'm getting hype. I'm like, no, that's not a shit. And then finally one day they played that shit. And then you played all my, they laid off shit right after. And that's my word for that day. They ain't never played them niggas shit. I can't tell it's mad. I know niggas is like, yo, that was me. Oh man, that was some shit. But who was the first brand new being hit? Where it went like, national? Like, well, you knew that. This was bigger than the new show. This is bigger than the New York thing. So when you wake up with big, everything was big. See, when the album came, it was the album with big. It wasn't just one song. It was the album. What's the fucking album? You came out, it was like, oh, we fucking with y'all. Now, slow down. That's one of the last songs we recorded last song. We had problems with that song. We couldn't get away that first. Like the sample, getting the right drums. We didn't, couldn't get away. Get the fuck away. You think correctly, you know what was the shit be all? Who pleaded? I heard the word, what it was. He came with the e-mail. Remember, you should play them video shows at night. And I see the e-bacab. Because remember, we put that out when her song was still out. We were shit. Right, right. I heard it one night and I was like, yo, that's the sound of kinda high. And I went and bought the 45. And I remember we fucked with it at first. And somehow we couldn't get it right. And we said, fuck it. We went to do rest of the album. That was the last song. Because remember, it was that day. It was the last song. Let's fuck with that. Let's try it, you know what the shit, that shit. That shit. That shit. And then somehow, because somebody had the right drum. That's it. And then we started putting horns and shit to it at the end. That was it. That was it. That was out of here. It was like, I go home, break your shit, come back, put it down. And that's what the fuck happened. Now, all for what? Hmm. Brand new beat. All for what? Brand new beat. I knew that. From the Crinkle Pound. You know what I mean? I knew that. I was heard to beat. I was like, yeah. This? If they don't like nothing else. They're like, this one. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. I'm gonna be beating it. This is a great group when I do it on a resume too. You guys are in the red bar, blue. And that's what we used to have to records with us. Because I remember, the group I had down record with us. And we, that was a rocker with the snap-pot, knuckle-pop from the beginning on it. We take none of that shit out of it. What y'all the first three-man group? No, no. This is a old- Strencher is three. Oh, what's going on? Yeah, kind of bucking. Fuck, it's back. Yeah, it's back, buddy. Shit. Yeah, I'll back there. We can hear you up. Daylux. Yeah, it was good. Well, well, well, we talk of three-man MCs. Oh, three-man. You know what I mean? It's been three-man group. That's right. Three-man MCs, Treacherous Three, was the first one I could think of. Five. Um, this has definitely been others we weren't the first. And the locks, that's like, that's, that's, that's, to me, they're like, they're from Westchester. I feel like, the next generation of, you know, they're all standing up. That's a great, better look at it. Yeah, tell you where they were. That's a great one. I can see the lineman's in each one of them too. Now, all of y'all was a five percent, all three of y'all? Well, I was five percent first. But, okay, wow. Then around the time that we started doing an album, Puba got knowledge from my right hand, man. See, I tried to speak to the mic. Well, I'll say, I tried to speak to the mic, my bad. Ex had knowledge, prior to that, but then I don't know what happened. I mean, he just wasn't running with the right guards or whatever the case may be. So, he kind of might have straight away, but he was calling in. He knew. You know what I mean? He knew the science. For the young kids that don't know, we talk about, there's a way of life, five percent. Yeah, five percent. Five percent. So, so, so, but Puba, his family came up in like Black Panther type. Yeah, background, and shit like that. Like, Nuri Shell got a lot of real like revolution. I was a scram Jones, he from New York. Yeah, he was. We got a lot of revolutionary energy up there. Black stage used to be up there. Wow. And all that type of shit. Like, if you read like certain biographies of people, like some of those dating Nuri Shell, why they was, you know, hiding how type of shit Farrakorn had a crib in Nuri Shell at one point. Wow, I never knew that. Oh, as a Davis Ruby dealer, like right behind, where's it at? But, but why was this so important? Like, for people to have knowledge of self-backed, like, what was that like a stand, was that like the norm back then? Or, nah, it's not necessarily the norm, but, you know, to me, it gave you an edge over everybody else. You know what I mean? Like, you know, it gave you a mental edge. Everybody else is out here, you know, when they whizzed the knowledge shit in you, and their knowledge whizzed them, you know, thinking before you move. They just moving before they think, you know, but nobody's teaching them to think for them. Oh, can 5% nation Islam, can, it come back to the forefront, like, because I feel like bloods wouldn't exist in New York City if the 5% was as strong as it was in the 80s, and in the 70s, and you know what I mean? I don't feel, because like, you know, it's crazy sometimes I go to Harlem, and I see a hood with all blue on, and it's like, that used, that, I never saw that back in the days. Then there will go, and then we'll see a hood off for the red. And it's like, it's kind of crazy for it. This would be New York City, but I just don't remember. I remember back then, you had to come, you had to know your lessons. You couldn't come outside without knowing today's mathematics. You had to wake up in the morning, and you know, try to be, you know what I'm saying? Like, try to be something. And nowadays it's just like the more ignorant you are, the more people say. Well, see the difference is back then, like, that you had the alpha males, you know what I mean? Who is the gods, like, you know? So, they're the ones everybody looked up, look up to, they want to be like that. So, if they're into it, you want to be into it. So, that's really all we got to do is just get the young alphas, with the ones with the piece of magnetic, to make the other ones come in and say, okay, I want to fuck with this. I know. Me and Scott, we did a hard job. Yeah, make it seem so. That's right, Cole, bringing no gods back. Yeah. Yeah. So, at some point they try to make conscious music or whatever, and seem like it was soft. Yeah. And that's what make certain people not want to fuck with it. All right. Like, and that's bullshit, ain't done soft about it. Let's make some noise to that guy, Devin. Devin. Devin. Devin. What's the one of you I was taking, Mary J? You didn't want to take Mary J? Oh my gosh. It was Scott. You want to say it? Yeah, it's a voice. What do you mean? It was the idiot. It was the idiot. Oh, yeah. Just wait all over the place. Let me go. I never saw with my eyes. You know, it was rumors. It was real shit. I never had any rumors. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. People just so worse than that. Nobody listens to us. Nobody goes here. No. Nobody listens to us. Yeah, yeah. I'm dribbled. Well, I just want you all to know, you know, we started this because we wanted to preserve hip hop. This guy, I know this guy, 20 years. He hates Sarato. He hates, he hates, he likes, he likes, he likes, he likes, he likes, he's a real hip hop dude. I'm talking about real, real pure, pureness. And when we started this show, we said we want to just continue to support our legends. And we want you to know that your guys, our hands down. I look up to you guys. I still look up to you guys. I'm saying, when I thought of a movie the other day, I swear to God, it was five o'clock in the morning. I thought of this movie. I had, I already had the thing, but it was, I seen Dad's dillinger post the five percent flag. And for some reason, I was like, yo, I got to speak to the Lord Jamal. And it was five o'clock in the fucking morning. I did not expect him to fuck up. I said, yo, I'm doing the five percent movie. I need you down with me, you know, to do it. And he fucking was up at five o'clock in the fucking morning. It was like, what are they saying? Oh, where? I didn't even look at that. I didn't even look at it like that. Where it was five o'clock in the fucking morning. It was like, what are they saying? Oh, where? I didn't even look at it like that. I mean, he's so, you know, it actually is built to build him destroyed. So we've been to the destroyer at five o'clock in the guy that morning. So, um, and he has it. And I just feel like that's, that's one of the reasons because I want to bring back up five percent. Not saying that we win anyway or anything. But I think that not as a self could help people nowadays. So, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, order to teach somebody some of the business way to teach people is through entertainment. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like right now people, they think, they, they, they, they, they directly learn, they indirectly learn when they listen to this podcast because I'm, you know, I'm always drinking, I'm having fun, I have fun with my artists. But they don't understand that they, they indirectly, you know, learning. So what, what the idea that I got, we want to make a, a movie about the five percent. And it was crazy. As long as I was up at the time. Exactly. I just, and I knew and I, um, I actually shared the idea with Sadat, Earlid, but Sadat, what do you think of that? Like, I think it's good, man, because, you know, that taught you what you like to, to think and you have to study. Right. Today, I, I teach in the school. I teach fifth grade, sixth grade, seventh grade, eighth grade. Got it. Yeah, I teach at the Kip School in Brooklyn. I teach. I teach. I only teach PowerPoint presentations and all that. And it's like back then, like, you, you, you, when we came to like, you had to study and learn. Yeah. Whereas these kids nowadays, I'm in school, like, and, and I'm looking at these kids and I'm, like, you mess with them every day to day. And it's like, you know, we did what we did, but we still knew how to read and learn, like, a lot of these kids, man, come on. They can't read. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, read, like, read shit. I've been in the class and I'm like, what, what you say? You know, and they know that I get on them. I'm like, yo, man, you, you're a head bullshitting. I seen your test score. You know what I'm saying? And they did better. They come back in with a little bit of confusion. And I said, no, you shouldn't have said that. You know, my class room is open. I curse. I do everything. I'm like, you're listening. Like, a lot of times they're going to go tell my father, but tell your father that today you can read this word right here also. You know what I'm saying? I mean, that taught you, that kept you on your square. You know, it gave you a sense of understanding of some way of school. I'm a real school. A real school. I'm a real school. I'm a real school. I'm a real school. I'm a real school. I'm a school. I'm a school. I'm a school. I'm a school. I'm a school. I'm a school. I'm a school. I said, you want to record a song? I said, let me hear some. They spit it out. I said, good enough. I said, I checked this out. Two days ago, I had somebody in here to record you. Two days later, I had John Robinson. He bought the portable thing. The portable recording. I said, now listen, all that bulls that you'll be talking every day, it's going to be a lot different when you get in front of that mic. It's going to get five of y'all a chance. Three of them made a couple of them. They dropped off. I said, it's going to be a lot different when you get in front of that mic. I don't know who you are or not really. What it is is, I never promoted that when I came in school, because I didn't want to promote that. I just wanted to come and teach him what I taught him. Well, one day, like a couple of them, they come in there like Mr. Murphy. My uncle said that he knows you. I'm like, what would you like, you know, with the low life thing? I'm right there on St. John's. That's the right thing I'm always on. That's one of the founding places. So when I went low every day, they made Mr. Murphy. My uncle, he wins. That stuff all the time, that people said to him, he said he knows you. So that was the connection that we made like that. You know what I'm saying? So I told him through that way. But like the five of us said, like it taught you like a means of study and a means of survival. I don't say where it is. That's lost nowadays. You know, everybody's their heads down and they own their social media. And I said, you proud of that. How does that mean? How did it get, you know, like, not possible to know shit? It's a bullshit. In the school, it came where it's cool to be done. You know what I'm saying? Like these kids say they don't know shit. And I'm like, yo, come on man. Like we do what we do. We do as much, you know, like we shoot each other in the back like you do. That's not what we do at the hands. We're like, it's crazy, man. That's where I'm like that. That's where we definitely don't bring the five of us in. But now, stock, I'm noticing you drink your wine from the bottle. Oh yeah. You know why this was supposed to be elegant? Yeah. You as gangster. I don't want to. I don't. As you can drink at the bottom, on the bottom. I'm like, oh, that's a pull. To all my fuckers, like, this is true wine consoles. This is our brand. And true wine comes out. True wine. That calm, you know, go to that. Get the wine. But as opposed to somebody like just throwing this, they name on the label. We actually did the full taste it with this. We started as a joke. We gave my apartment a little tell over there. You know what I'm saying? We started as a joke. And we used to get wine. People used to send us. One day, actually, one day what happened was we used to drink manh into seeing a studio. So one day, you know, it was snowing outside. Nobody fucked like going to the store to get no more, Henny. He got about a wine. We would play. We drank it. Somehow he posted it. It was viral. We would get a couple more like that. People start sending us wine now to do. Somebody said, yo, if you're ever serious about making your own shit, get with me. It's Uncle Gina. You know what I'm saying? I'm just going to drink some wine. We're going to drink some wine. We're going to drink some wine. You showed us a beer, then. Two more than kind of stuff. You got the opener? You got the opener? You got the opener? Uh, to open it? We can open whatever you want. No, but it looks like you need to open it. At least I'm in the twist of it. Okay, yeah, yeah. You know, this is like, you know, good wine. Yeah, it's a twist of it. You know, good wine. Yeah, it's a twist of it. That's why you know, this is a good wine. And when you got to open it, what a thing thing, you know, right? Have you get a twist of it now? I have to see some good wine. Order this bottle. 85 bucks. So twist of it. So twist of it? So twist of it. 85 bucks. When did the grocery store in the morning? She was 8.99. That's it. And that's the most expensive. We have 70 locations. We actually know about the wine. My partner, my well-tip, he got a job. Fuck with the wine. So we got one from Portugal. Where's it made? Where you don't make it in the wine? We're making it in that network. All the new Italian wines is from the Vinec. And the new wine. And the new wine. And the new wine. And the new wine. And the new wine. And the new wine. So this one. So this one. So this one. So this one. So this one. So this one. So this one. So this one. So this one. So this one. So this one. So this one. So this one. So this one. So this one. So this one. So this one. So this one. So this one. I took the original bear. Oh, wow. And then I flipped it into thug fashion. That we put the polar recon patches on. Oh, I'm smiling, Brown Florent. You got to call us a chef. You got to give it the low lives. So that's dope, man. You got to miss your own wine. We're going to keep it on the table. Just so you know, the wines that we don't drink are my felixer to myself. Yeah, we're going to keep it on the table. And we're also going to get you some tiger bones. Let's get some tiger bones. Yeah, yeah. And we're going to get some tiger bones. Yeah, yeah. And some ginsengs and barks. We're going to get some barks. Okay. We're going to lose it. These legs are the same right now. Let's give it some tiger bones. Let's go. Yeah. Now I'm happy getting to the phone. That's the phone, bro. I don't know. I'm happy to make a phone call. Right. So, so now, brand new being, they all become stars. I want to describe these road trips that you always have because me and Paul, Paul is my brother. But me and Paul can't be together for too long. We just can't. It's just, it's just, we too out for us. Too out for us. We just, we just always clash. Give us some, bro. I'm going to say one thing. And I'm going to let you, my sweet, there's a power of six. What? The power of six. Oh, what is the power of six? Yeah, power of six. We're not going to get the power of six. Listen. In the beginning, you know, niggas sometimes we have to share rooms and shit like that. Like a lot of times. So this was my roommate, right? Right. You know what I mean? And we got them all. And who, who, who, who, who, who, how about Alamo? Alamo? Maybe he was in a room. We pulled him. Yeah, pulled by Alia. Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay. We'll see. And the power grip. Let's get to it. Well, see, because we have probably the more poppin' room. Whereas, you know. Mm-hmm. We probably have bitches in here. And I'll just let this thing. Let's just make some noise. Bitches got damaged. Let's act like. Let's just let this guy go. Let's take out the cups. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Mm-hmm. Because there's no space, y'all. Just in the same room. You know what I mean? So sometimes you gotta power grip. You know what I'm saying? It's just like, you know. It's just like, homie. Yeah. Go shit. You know what? We're not homo. This is the only touch we do, man. That's your boy. You got the nails. Don't touch, but... Yeah. My man. Oh, my man. You made good of me. You made good of me. That was it. Now. Oh, was it? You got plastic cups? Did we got plastic cups? We need... We need... Oh, was it nothing? It's like a ball. We need... You got some other life. Yeah, it's like a ball, baby. Lies. This is for the hips. Oh, we got lies. We got lies. Is there more glasses? Wow. Come on, Jesus. One glass is serious. Oh, my God. Shall I go behind the table? I don't know. I don't speak of that. I don't know what the fuck he thinks. Well, then he was just a barber and then we got... No, I'm sad. So, yeah, we used to pop your little ones. Yeah. There were a lot of things. A lot of things. Um... Isn't happy D from Novo Show? He from Mount Vernon. He from Mount Vernon. No, just grab Mount Vernon, Novo Show, Yonkers. Because... Well, that's... Because y'all, like... Yeah, old barrels as well. I'm sorry, I was just in blood. Yeah, it was good. Oh, you got a very new shirt. Nice. Ooh, so not really... I don't know how it is to wipe. Oh, yeah, yeah. But... See, it all stems from like... Sports and shit like that. But definitely known. Novo Show Mount Vernon was always like a championship from the North Shell football. Mount Vernon basketball. You know what I mean? So now, Nick is just coming to the game. You should... You know what I mean? That's your serious... You should use the pop off. You should be full like... Full... Gang fights. And that's what we've been eyeing in. Marcy... Nick is getting stuck. First time I've seen it. It was that type of thing. It was serious. Yeah, that was a serious thing. Was there a story that inspired punk jump up to get beat down? Back to World. Well, one day... Like, is that kind of thing something... Yeah, it hurts. You get something. No, it's okay. You get something. You get something. I'm probably just living away. It was... But actually, it was... It was wise. What wasn't wise that we were trying to make the chorus up or some shit that came up with that shit? No, since here came up. Since then, all right. Since then. To me, that was a crazy... Yeah, that's... Rages Records in there. The boy who got the chorus from... Carras 1, actually. What chorus? Punk jump up to get beat down. Oh, we going in there? I was waiting for this. I mean, you did that. You was a gabby. You were like, punk jump up to get beat down. I was like, wasn't it? Like, whole gay community came out y'all. That was... Yeah, but see, wasn't even thinking about that. You know, wasn't talking about it, right? You didn't say... You just said, come on and think. You fuck up a faggot. But that said, it was like... That's not what you did. That's not what you did. That's what you did. You said, and... You know how you're probably... You got trained of thought, right? Right. So, they just said, I freed flocked along. Fuck up a faggot. Yeah, I did that. Now, now, now, now. Check it out. Hold on. Now, at that point, when you say, fuck up a faggot, that's anybody. Because you said, I fucked that faggot. But then the next part that makes you succinct to that... We're linked to this. He said, we're really, we're... Because that's the right... Yeah, yeah. He said, don't understand their ways and I ain't down with gay. And listen, I'm tired of you taking that out of the shows. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the show. I'm gonna be ... ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. ...his fucking years. I'm saying it. You're like, you're like, you're saying it. I'm saying it. You got home with those. I'm just saying it. You're falling to the past. At least the gay people know that. That you're showing off. I mean, this is like a vulgar show. I know a couple of gay people are going to leave. I know a couple of gay people are going to leave. I'm just like, I'm going to leave. I want to a gay wedding one time. You heard it. I heard it. I heard it. So we all got family. I can't know what you're doing. I'm out in Brooklyn that you fuck around. I can't. I'm in prison. You're gonna have the Series of flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable flexivable Give me the it's going to go down In the studio when y'all were working who's the most problematic out of brand Hey Cheers empty right You should be here to defend All right, so I'm gonna be honest this is your second world. No, you can't rock it more. We have to boot you out boys Jackson and he got on the turquoise hat he got a relax ejection all right, so so good Niggas found out that like the studio had Oh Yeah Made I don't get money. I, what would you mean get money? Like a full budget? The financials. The financials, the full budget. The financials would take whatever they had. Whenever petty cash, we always have a petty cash box back. So they had like $300, give me that. The financials would come to the studio before anybody even get there, take all the petty cash. And they could leave. And they could never come. It was like a job. We're working. We became a great race to the studio. And so now we're in race. The first DMX got it. The great race to the studio. Yeah, now it's the race to the studio. Because now it is DMX. We like you. You know, yo, when a petty cash, you want to get some cheese steaks or whatever. Who are you? What? He took all the cash. We like, what? This is going to start at 8. We hit 8. Like you said, I'm going to be up to 42nd student by friends. I'm going to be up to 42nd student by friends. I never knew you could do that. I'm hated. Oh, I'm a damn good dude. We could teach you some shit. We could teach you some shit. I'll teach you some shit. So let me teach you some. Puba was the master of the manual check from a label. Remember like, if some day we wake up there, he make a right to check. We go go downtown. We go get 20 Gs today. Today. Today, right now. Because I'm a bitch. It's like an ACM from back. And they make a man. They had a manual check. He'd be like, watch this. See? See? He knows this. So I'm going to say, he was a bad teacher. You understand what I'm saying? He taught us this business wrong. You understand? It's like life, life, life. You know, it's like shit on excursion. You know what I mean? It's imitation of it. It's shit like that. So this nigga be like, watch. We're going to get 20 Gs today. You know what I mean? I'd be like, I do you think? Let's do it. They nigga call up somebody. Yo, I need 20 Gs today. We're going to leave. I'm about to get a victim. Yeah, we'll come up with all credit shit. I'm about to get a 50, y'all. Yo, you're going to let me get a 50? I fuck y'all. Da-da-da-da-da. It's a male you, bitch. Let's get all scared and shit. I'm on bomb. Here come the chest. I'm OK. We talk about the problem. I mean, yo, this is bad. I'm on fucking mind. You're still recouping. We just used to have to race through the world to catch the bank. That was what it was. Catch the bank, yo. We got to get down 10. Catch the bank. Oh, man. So now, what was your favorite label? Electrical. Electrical. That was a long, fucking shit. Yeah, with Buster Rhyse. Buster Rhyse was dead at that time? Well, they came right after us. Because I'm saying, we was the first ones out of that era to get signed directly to electric. And that's before it was we. That was the one that's show was on his own. Yeah. Who said this is your new computer bar? Forgot. Oh, I don't know. I want to say Atlantic. Mm. Yeah, and then they formed we after that. Right. Yeah, well, I want Atlantic, uh, I want an electric. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, um, now, what do y'all like better, major labels? Or, um, independent? I'm gonna say I like major labels back then. But now, that's a great fucking answer. Majority's back then. Because that's for the new. Back in, there's been the ammo clue. Why would you sign to a label now? They don't give you a lot. Is that it? They take everything. That's what you do. When I be here, I'm here. And I get really excited to say, well, they knock it off. Oh, man. Like a green hole. You can come from for me, man. They'll come from for me. I'm gonna take you. There was no, see, when we signed, it was no 360. Right. And like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. But what do you have to think about Chuck D? Chuck D just won a lawsuit against Universal because Universal, when we all originally signed, there was nothing called digital rights. There was nothing called like, you know, the Rachel. So Chuck D's super, for soon. And he actually won because. Anything, Chuck D. You know what I'm gonna say? Actually, the more he thinks, the more he is a deal. He's full of the cost. Like, your albums is on digital right now. Right. Your original contract never entitled digital. So they owe you all money. How do you, how do you, how do you, how do you feel about that? Because, think about it. You can go and get a check right now. Like, what's going on? I never, I never, never, never. I never, never, never. I'm gonna be on that. Who bought it? Who, what, what, you, who, who, you said? They'll be on that Monday. Yeah, because, you know, who bought it? Seriously, you know, stick about it. I tell who bought it. Who bought it? Who kind of got it now? They bought it. You know, albums are different. But it's different. Who can record tonight? That's your brand. I heard you from shit. I'm a con guy girl. You know what I'm gonna be around right now? Chuck D. One is too. Yeah. Because they don't pay us when we originally signed, we signed for hard copies vinyl. It wasn't even, well, they were CDs. But hard copies vinyl CDs, so it was actual material. But now this digital rights is, why is my albums up there? We'll see, you know, it's funny, the record company. Which, which, which, you, they asked. Yeah. Because in all those contracts, it always says, the different configurations could set that out of the, or any medium created or in the future created. Like, that show was in there for them. Right. But was it in there for the artist? I didn't look back at that. Yeah. That's the world. Chuck D. One. That's the one. We get about static change. Yeah, because of what you got sound. Yeah, yeah. But, um, when you got to not exactly. Exactly. Now, what, what was the moment where you guys said, you'll know what, where stars now? What was that moment? Nigger, when we fucking Harlem or 125th Street, every fucking car they drive by is playing your album. Oh, yeah, I love that feeling. See, it'll never be like that again. It'll never be like that again in New York. Nigger's don't understand. That's why they call us legends. Because we had a legendary time when brand newbiein was, all that Niggas was fucking with. Like street niggas, conscious niggas. You need fucking make a audience. Everybody fucking with you. Cross your jeans. Like quarters. New years, four. And this is the days when, you know, 125th Street, you got dead. Niggas is trippin sideways. Out on 125th Street. Niggas is just standing on a car playing music. Everybody calls playing music. And everybody's playing your tape. And you know what's the tape? Because Niggas got a plan from different parts. You hearing different songs coming out of different cars. But it's all just your tape. For me, it was one time we went out to Cali. We was out there for about, remember we went out for about a month. We went out for about a month. And when we came back, I remember when we was coming back. And we went up town. And I was here and put like, people were telling me, like, yo, they playing a joint from y'all, like punk, and when we came back. Bugs that bought the Gap B-Damp. That was a serious thing for us. That was a serious thing for us. One more time. One more time, y'all. Two do it with me. Bugs that bought the Gap B-Damp. Okay, Bugs that bought the Gap B-Damp. That was a proven ground for us. That's the best thing. We improved our shit then. So we was out doing like a promo tour. And Cali, we was out there for a month. We had a crib out there for a month. I mean, that was our victory song. When we came back. Punk's that one. I'm just getting more and more, getting more and more Lawrence. He did do that. Yeah. He said, punk's the part that gave B-Damp. We later on the shit. We got beat up by Tommy Hurr. Yeah. We told him we came back from the airport. We came back from the airport. I never forget. And I remember we went up town, God bless them. I met my P. We went up town. And I remember I was here and like, I heard the song. And like, we were going to hotpot. Yeah. And my father was playing the shit up and down home. Hotpot. One, three, two, the location. Gangsulu. Mom, staff. Older. He was here. And I was like, oh shit. I was like, for real. Like, we was here in the city. Was that y'all the biggest record? That was one of them. One in the biggest ones. Yeah. And it was like, it was welcome. Because we came back. But we was going for a month. But when we came back, it was like in 30 days. That shit popped off. Like, I was like, oh shit. What's the dialect's favorite brand newman, Reckon? I like a lot. It's like different. The favorite. The favorite. The favorite today. I can name a record off the head that nobody would know about. You know what I'm saying? Straight off the head. Straight off the head. Nobody would know about that. And that was the people actually. Yeah, somebody really loved it. There was some shit that we went to the studio and then off straight off the head. The record plays. That was on a third album. Yeah. We went in there and just did that. Like, different joints like to me. Like, the mainstream joints. I love them. And those are my babies. But it was different. Like, side joints that we did. It was Lord Gamar, favorite brand newman record. Ah. I don't know, man. It's not just one record. I know just not. When you think. I'm going to tell you what I think the best album is. Okay. What's found deep. Whoa. A lot of people say that. See, Foundation to me was the sonically the best album. That was the second album. No, that was the third album. That's the third album. Okay. We got back together. He's on the barrister. Because yeah, I broke up at one point. Was that the one that had done it the other day? Yeah. That album right there. That's a great job. Like, we'll name it the first album. All four. Yeah. Second one in God we trust. I like the second one. Then everything is everything. Then, foundation. Whoa. Now, that foundation to me, like, just sounded. Pull up the first album. The crispest fucking niggas was spitting like. Like, songless. Theoreously, like, that shit niggas was writing like crazy. Like, that shit was crazy right there. What was, what, what, what, what, what was initially the break up? What happened? Was initially the break up? What was it? It was a lot of things. I mean, it's going in studio, taking a prudium and shit. And I can't get a cheese today. Get down there now. And that's where point is. The racing is like that. That's where vehicles. Everybody has a vehicle. That's where you like, that's where you like damn niggas. And you're not going to come to studio like niggas we got before. Here we go. And then Lee. What's up? He would get there before, like, let's say the studio was at seven. That niggas showed up at like four. And we would be there at seven. And he already got the, he already got the people in there. You know, lightweight scared of them or whatever. You know, he's grand pooled out. So when he walked in there, it's just ready to do whatever. So if he said, give me all that fucking petty cash. They fucking gave it to him. And then he was out. And then he was out. And then we'll come back. Word. Now we come to work and we think in the prudiums deck. So we're gonna go over there. So we're gonna go over there. So we're gonna go over there. So we're gonna go over there. So we're gonna go over there. So we're gonna go over there. So we're gonna go over there. So we're gonna go over there. So we're gonna go over there. So we're gonna go over there. So we're gonna go over there. So we're gonna go over there. So we're gonna go over there. So we're gonna go over there. So we're gonna go over there. So we're gonna go over there. So we're gonna go over there. I don't know if it was 45. World. E. Bacchia. So what's brand new being's biggest market? Like other than New York. Should we do the same? North Carolina. North Carolina. I was going to throw a filly because of. You were going to do the same. You know, I say it's a most common relation. And it's about that because I love ATL and all that. But when we first came up, the race was still a country now. This country, we ran through the South. We did. We did. We're not going to do anything. It was loving us in LA. Yeah, you know, yeah. We, like, let's go. We got some shit. We got some shit. We got some shit. And Nick and Svana said, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. We was fuck with them. Great. She did. Or you're a great tree. Like, early. I'm talking, but we had these niggas out there building. Like, just imagine. I'll keep holding on. Just imagine like 300 gangsters in the projects outside building on like political shit. Like the things with Terry curls and all of that. But they talking about, you know, some conscious shit. They, they like the niggas blew my mind like, and I know we went through them. We went through the projects. I don't know if I've been able to do the project. They said we was the only one. We were in through there. They said we was only we was in the Jordan down. They said we was the only niggas that came to the project besides two pop. We're the only niggas that came through there. We had so many niggas outside the fucking police sent the helicopter out there. Shout out like that. And we was out there building with gang bangers. We went with the crypts. They took us to the blood to the niggasons. Because they had the shrooms and we trusted them. We went to the rhythm. We went to the blood fucking shrooms. That was my niggas and goddess. Yes. Yeah. We went with Jordan down niggas to the niggasons. We went with the right niggas. I think that's what I did in the last one. Shout out, shout out, niggas from the projects. My niggas are not old. Shout out my niggas Ziggy. You know what I mean? People in the pizza real thing I can't. Hot top. You got to kill. Black and I'm proud. Hot top. Hot top. Hot top. Hot pepper. Hot pepper. Y'all niggas are subject there. What's up? Yes. Full of the four flex. Hot pepper. Hot pepper. Hot pepper. Hot pepper. Hot pepper. Hot pepper. Hot pepper. Hot pepper. Hot pepper. Hot pepper. Hot pepper. Hot pepper. Hot pepper. Hot pepper. Hot pepper. Oh, yeah, well I can lie you know a lot of people don't like this guy, but I learned a lot We go is we are We are coming man, I learned No, we was on a rush man. Oh, that's correct. It was one Oh Real deaf jam real rush Publicity though Bill Adler I think so probably I think he was dead I think it's like Todd Moscow. It's might have just been coming around. He was the intern You know But I'm saying that that spot was legendary like we outside because it was right off house I drink a 40 with DMC I knew I made it You drank a 40 with DMC we drank a 40 with Right outside rush A little bit straight right around the corner from CBG That one yes We cannot put the Tiger Right. You could tell I've been a flex right Claude tom flex flex on drink and he's taking me on a roll and he's with like no or you can't smoke in the car and I'm like God they would take it 18 hours dry and not only he don't smoke a drink he just knows the sober as people in the world like I'm really dressed you know what I mean by leave the line like I was like the person that let because I walk so fast so the the niggas are with 20 years to life just be like let that nigga leave the line so he's to go from shortest to the tallest but I was never the shortest so I'm on dear why I said it's like let this and I just always say that my father was like uh he's walking in the morning in the jaw right so I tried to inspire to be him and I just try to be active and that's just how I developed that but not only that my heart is full of hustles left-right cities full of hustles from all the from the lobby all the way up to the 18th floor and I couldn't compete with certain people in section two at that time because people had better worked at me I was just but what I noticed is I can kill the morning shift sleep nigga on the sleep money on main sleep these guys asleep they are taught to me coming out I used to go fucking I'm gonna take the morning shift because I'm better I knew I have bad work I know I have bad work but I know I have this hard beat but I got to get it off to the point because nigga's the good word come out whenever nobody else is up it but I always thought I was a boss and I just did it wrong so I used to try to go get coke and like I knew I was a little bit of Spanish I knew enough not to get jerk and I would come back and I just be like and that's how I developed my early morning shift but to get back to the story I used to be stressing what I can really because I put I helped me help me put on you know I'm I'm fucking me mom I'm like you can not drink so I'm like this as soon as we get to the town I see it's like the dark to walk the street y'all out come on break on the room and there's a smoke in the room I'm with these niggas on tour but um so now you guys have this breakup now is it is it is it is it is it because this industry always because you guys are friends prior to that and now when you got to put business first that that effect it is a combination okay see I'm gonna tell you what I feel it is right it's an ego shit right just that comes into play with everybody so I disrespect to your wine I'm so sorry that takes like tiger bones son we got we got I'm gonna speak gotta watch this out please this takes terrible please Diego can help me out because we got to walk the tiger bone out of that that is just right you're right fully respect because that's the way that takes it just now that's a like tiger no true like that that's me my life's a wine yeah tiger seven in three six one hell but the break up let's get back to that all right because we were all hurt like we as what it is and you know it's crazy we didn't have the internet back then so when we just see y'all was together and we see yeah his two of y'all we like as fans I'm talking when I say we I'm speaking as 100% as fan I this is not Nori at all well it is Nori but I just was like damn I just couldn't I couldn't fathom you guys not being together so see I think it was a little bit of this right oh like I said Poo-Bot a little bit old it's right right so it was like he was the big home at some point when we got on he went for being a big home to like equals we equals right now sometimes it's hard for people to adjust to that you see I'm saying you still want to treat me like the little homie even though girl the homie right you know to me so it's like very good and I'm not gonna allow you to treat me like the little homie you know what I mean all right we know it's like what's across the country right so we have to draw it yes I was the country really throw what I wasn't to a bus we drove in navigator and navigation but I think it was a little bit of that right you know to me you look at your little homie oh that's the little homie now a little homie come up right there's a change in the guard but we don't always acknowledge that right right you see so I think it was a little bit of that you know combined with second niggas in your egg yellow you know you know it was you know speaking in the pool water usually a lot and the y'all ever have a falling out as well I know yeah it was just y'all in the pool but yeah pretty much yeah cool and you know all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all about all 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Yeah, we have some Brakes. We do all the time. We do all the time. Give us like five. Five times. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Adam. Alamo's original member. Wow. My pops, the animal pops. Right. My, my, my, my pops passed away. Animal pops came and did like a U of the G speech and my pops. Oh, God bless. God bless. So I said so like animal pops, my pops, they grew up together. And that's the first. Alamo became the DJ. Wow. So now what the success DJ at that time, what the hell is? Well, he's like made him the DJ like you become a DJ. What the success of he just was a funny guy. I'm around. He, you know, out of here at a car at the time. That's the job is to this. And, but any scratching you heard at that time was me. Okay. Because I was a real DJ. Lord, you're all relaxed. It's a great day. It's a great day. The angle got that started. Remember, it's a legendary day of what was Latin quarter day. Remember that? Remember that day? Oh, yeah. Remember that. I see back in the days, he's talking about before, uh, before all this shit. Like this is, this is what let me know he was alive. And I was fuck with him like who keep growing the same building with some like some reason back in the days. Even some of your toughest niggas were scared to go to the city for some reason. Okay. Yes. Oh, what? Niggas from New York. All right. Oh, you're all right. I'm the old man. I'm the old man. I'm the old man. I was scared to go to city. To New York. Yeah. Like, like, they, they was felt safe up there. But they felt like it was a little too gangster in the city with them. Niggas like me. I was Harlem. Dude. I'm going all shit. You used to wear Latin quarter. So one night I'm out. I'm down to Latin quarters. I'm by my mother fucker. Well, self. Okay. I'm about to go in there. I see my niggas from nourish up. Well, mom will you be happy if you see it? From around your way. I got mama cut. He went mad. I got mama cut. I got mama cut. Yeah, it is mad. God bless the daddy with my man. Keep his peace. And maybe I can get you some big. So, so we on the line. You know, we like being boy. And in the last man long niggas don't feel like waiting on it. Is that a puzzle? I never really, I knew, I knew right. I didn't know the pie. We knew each other. We never really chilled. We would each other before. So I'm like, yo, what's up? You know what I mean? Like, fuck this pie. Like, like, I was hand going through his neck. Okay, some live young because they might age. I used to only see older niggas. I had my mama's cut. So now So okay, I think it's got a ride like what's up fuck this spot? Let's go town God let's go town. Let's get some we get some dust Whoa It's just a little bit more. It's just a little bit more. Let's get some wolves. They got some real wolves here. Maybe we did all of that. That's what I'm going to lose is. That is cracking me. 24! We had all of that. Let's go to the polo grounds. It's a super-girls. Let's park in the park and the polo grounds. Let's get fucked up like young folks. Fuck this spot. And then Niggas was like, Niggas was like, a bet. What? What's up? I'm like, I ain't a hot, I'm so okay. What does PCP do? What does PCP do? I smoked in one time and then it worked. You smoked in one time. You smoked in one time. You smoked in one time. We're like, from Manhattan, to New York, like that. On PCP. See, back then, you know what's it? I didn't want to get naked tonight. Let's not do that. I was mad. I was mad. I was mad. I smoked. The fuck. I just got mad at him. That was some other shit. Like, that's what I'm up. I was excited. I was excited. I was excited. I was excited. I was excited. I was excited. I was excited. I was excited. I was excited. I was excited. I was excited. I was excited. I was excited. I was excited. I was excited. I was excited. I was excited. I was excited. I was excited. So you take these niggas as dissonance because he was on some call to DJ list back in the days. So he says, you take you and this is too much before the whole power of the album come out. So he plays me in New York, New York. He's like, you take these niggas as dissonance? I take a record pool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was a part of that. But he went to DJ. He was a smart enough to put it in some clothes. And he got the album too much in the vest. It's before boot lagging and all that. So he goes to me. He plays me to New York and I'm like, you take these niggas and this is out the blue. This thing just runs 100 miles. And I'm like, oh, shit. And he come back like he never did it. He's like, yo, you take this. I'm like, I want to be like, what the fuck are you doing? Just ran away. But he holds his bcb. But they're getting about it. That's how he handles it. That's how he handles it. He just runs. I know. That's one time. I swear to God, the birds fly. Yeah, I know. I mean, I think it was a name. Reggie. Number of jacks. Reggie Jackson. I'm not. This is out for New York. Oh, I know. What are. What are. This thing is smoked dust one time. And bugged. Bugged out forever. Like I'm talking. This thing is smoking back in the girl. There's a football all of that. And everything going for him. Smoke. Smoke. Smoke. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. and the bushes is talking about messed up. That's me guys, messed up. You messed up. One messed up. I don't know what messed up. Well, messed up is masculine. Messylanders, black R days, S-ex-tacy. Yeah, that was like R-ex-tap. R-ex-tap, that was the best thing ever. That's the good one. Well, I was nigga. Yo, listen, should you take before you go to the club? I swear to God. I know, listen. Tap. Red Star, I swear to God. One time, I took a mess, Ted, and God on the sea saw by myself. I'm going to be like, you're killing me. I'm talking in the room. Where are you? Where are you? Listen, dole up. Go up and down the moon talking to me like, you're killing me. I'm talking in the room. Where are you? Where are you? I swear to God. You know what, sea saw. You need two people. Yeah, that's what you said. You're being the word. How long have you been pushing yourself bad? No, I'm being the word. I was talking to you. I was talking to you. I was talking to you. You're killing me. And the moon started talking to me. And the moon was like, what's good? I was like, what's good? How you, baby? Where you been at? I'm talking to you. You're getting the moon. The moon, like, you good. Stop fucking with shit like that. It took me 50 minutes to walk from that park that's right by the cross. To my hood. That is a 10 minute walk. It took me 50 minutes because the busses were talking to me. And I was giving the busses fast. My neck is like, oh, yeah, good. Nick is just looking at me. And we were all messed up. It's all, the crazy shit. The moon talked to us all. It was me down lazy. I forget who else. Biggie up down lazy. Whatever you at. Okay. Oh, so continue. I'm sorry. Shit, they had me stop fucking with crazy shit like that. Like, dust and shit like that. Like, I couldn't touch. Yeah. How many of those? What are you getting away with the fucking moon? Fucking with bro. Where are you? Where are you? Where are you? Where are you? Where are you? What are you saying? What are you saying? What are you saying? I was going to school. I was going to school. I was going to school with an alternative school for the back. That wasn't it, man. It was still, they used to call her educate. I know. At first I went to sister Helen. Sister Helen. That was the bad people school in Nureshel. But then I graduated to educate. Which was the bad people school of Westchester like. Westchester. Right. Westchester. Right. So whatever, bam, there was this girl named Crystal. Baddest bitch in the school. Okay. She's in Gaga to relax again. Okay. She was fucking with some lame kid or whatever that used to smoke dust. So whatever, she broke up with the nigga. I'd make my move one up. She's stuck. She ready to fuck with me. I light it to the crib. She's a fucking peace killer, though. Nureshel. She's got no wild kill new y'all. My face is a little bit. Peace killer, New York. You're right, my son. I'm right here. Come to my place. Right? I'm on the phone. That's like hour. She got on the bus. So it was no, like two hours. Word. On the bus. Some bump. I asked for her in all this crazy shit she had to do, right? So bomb. So I see my man. I'm like, yeah, I got too bad. Bitch is coming to the crib. Blah, blah, blah. He's like, oh, where are let's go get some dust real quick. Nigger, we, we, we, we, yeah fuck back on that. Who knows? No, no. No, just is not good. That's what the fucking did. Fucking all that. Word. Where you see? So, so we go to Mount Vernon. We go to Mount Vernon. Get some dust. We smoke. We come back to nourish out now. We meet the girls with the bus stop. So we. We dust it as a motherfucker. We pick the girls. Nigger, I don't say a word to them. Walk to the crib. It's like a 15 minute walk from the bus stop to the crib. I don't say a word to these bras. I'm even one of us. And y'all bring it. Yeah, no, it's ain't bring. Oh, it's just. I'm trying. You got stopped on that shit. I might be like 17 at this time. I'm not gonna get to the crib. I'm some bow. Hey, what's up? Bad. Yeah, we just sit there. Just stand there. I know. I know. And then looking like, what's up? You know, I think it's one of the fucking sun. And we just like. Nigger, that's it. Yo, she left out of there. She was so mad at me. She never fucking me again. I said, I ain't, I'm not fucking with this dutch shit. No, fuck this shit. Y'all fucking with my shit that I really love. Which is these brand newbie. It was very, very difficult. Cokane or not? Absolutely not. Yeah, it was out in those days. That's too far. Like, by then, it was too far. I might give a bruise. Right now, in the evening. But me, first leave. I thought what to do. I'm asking you to once in 90s, once in 90s came. I didn't even see no more powder. I didn't even see. Because back then, Cokane, even smoking wolves, like you said. It was cool. It was cool. I didn't even get to fuck this up. I should be in another fucking... No, no, because I'm a tank. You should be in the rooftop. In the rooftop. Hey, wait, do you want to smoke wolves? They're smoking, they're mad. You just out there. You just out there. I was there. Oh, yeah, it was 87, 86. I was born in 77, so I was 10 years old. I mean, the flyboard is with Coke and a hundred out of a little. You ain't got a few things in front of the brawls. One of them to see it because they know. That's a little, y'all, I'm like 15. That was like a fly back then. I'm blowing a smoke Coke and cigarettes in a brawls face. To let a note, I got the Coke. You ain't got to give it a question. You're just asking me. The last one, the last one, the last one, the last one. The last one, the last one, the last one, the last one, the last one. The last one, the last one, the last one, the last one, the last one. That was dirty. At some point, it's called dirty. Listen, that's not even my partner. That's not even my partner. That was a strong, he had a crack. That was not even my partner. Listen, listen, listen, listen. At some point, it's switched from Coke to crack. That's not even my partner. So now, when it's switched to crack, Niggas thought you could only get a hook if you smoke it in a pot. What's about that? No, right? So I don't see Niggas that was giving money. You weren't talking about getting her money. Fuck that up. Start smoking woos. And then, that's what we say. Two weeks later, these niggas were in the orch. It is the crack. Who's in the orch. Who's in the orch. It is the crack. Who's in the orch. So I'm like, damn, Niggas, like you was getting it. Like, how the fuck? From smoke, woos. Word. So I feel the thing that saved me. Let me just real quick. Yes, the right. The thing that saved me from never being a fiend or all that type of shit, was one having knowledge itself. That's right. That's right. Because the gods, when you got knowledge, they don't give a fuck. What the fuck you, huh? You better know the American lessons and you're gonna get your fucking ass work. Okay? I'll get your show. I'll get your show. Like, I remember when I first got knowledge, I ran into the cave on. Okay? Cave on sound strong. Cave on was strong. That sounds black. Black on. Black on. Big muscles. Scary black on. And the gods said, how you see today that I am in one two? I said, I'm gonna put on a mic. I'm gonna put on a mic. God, I'm gonna do a stimulator. He said, I don't care if you stimulate it. He said, you better master your shit. You don't fuck with it. You know what I mean? What? Some of the fuck out. Some of the fuck out. That's what it was. Okay, God, pardon me. Next time I see you, you better know that, be quick. You know what I mean? He was one of those, oh shit, it come cable. You know what I mean? And that shit, but it made you shop. And you say, I'm never gonna let nothing master me. I'm always gonna be master. That's what it's not. That's the only thing that I feel that some things didn't have. Yeah. Then let them make them run on, be a fuck of a crackhead. Now, how do you feel about these young kids? Because these young kids are actually drug addicts. Yeah. They don't actually know drug addicts. They don't have to be in a good drug addict. They sound like drug addicts. No, they're right. Oh, no, no, no, no. That's how drug addicts look. That's how drug addicts talk. Life, life, life, life, the drug dealer talk authoritatively. You know what I mean? I can't make big daddy kids. I'm sorry, I can't make that. I'm using it where one of my time authoritatively. Authoritatively. Yeah, fuck a fuck a fuck a fuck a fuck a fuck a fuck a fuck a fuck a fuck. Oh shit, let me try. Let me try. Authoritatively. Authoritatively. No, come on, you better get it right. Authoritatively. Authoritatively. There you go. There's the clavage of noise. I gotta use that somehow. Authoritatively. Authoritatively. Authoritatively. It's how drug dealers used to talk to motherfuckers. You know what I mean? You'll give me some duchess. You'll run the store. Give me some duchess. You'll fucking, I need you to go fucking do this. You'll pick that up for me. Telling niggas what to do. Come here some now. Now these niggas is glorified. I'll hire them, Ali. I'll fuck that. I'll fuck that. I'll fuck that up for you. I'll fuck that up for you. You'll fuck that up for you. You ever try, Ali? It's fantastic. I'm just gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. See Molly if you got a good bad episode I don't approve No, no, what you know what Molly was invented for for marriage counseling really so yeah, it's actually if you get a prayer And you know me I'm don't recommend it was invented for me. No, I'm just Yeah, we get that It's a fact that you actually Google it, huh? If you counseling it's canceling the else that's how Listen listen if you and your lady are having problem give us some of this She made it a free goal. It's not even that is that show she'll express You're One time After this They pay for me to get down the devil one thing that away I put this studio I took some lean I stand back on the amp chat come back to New York. I was back like this Straight before that guy back to 40 second or 34 see whatever the fuck it was I was like fuck it. I can't get up Right here I mean, I can't do it. I'm just gonna throw this out there before we take this wrong break. But Molly is okay. It's fantastic. I'm gonna throw it out there. I'm gonna throw it out there. I'm gonna throw it out there. Super good stuff, King. I was like, I don't want to fuck with any synthetic stuff. I'm gonna fuck with any. I'm just gonna throw it out there. It's bad in the world. I can smoke weed. Everybody can take a Molly once. Just saying, I can't do that. I can't do that. I swear. I'm gonna take a Molly. I'm gonna throw it out there. I'm gonna throw it out there. You all fuck me up a little bit. We just take a bunch of. Don't mess arms though. It's earth. I know, but it's just. It's a mission. It's an earth. It's an earth. It's my big one. Don't mess arms though. He'll fight about it. See, there. I'm gonna throw it out there. And I was dancing real fast. And my man was still sure. Like, you were dancing fast. I was dancing fast. I was dancing fast. I was like, you really, you really, you dancing fast. I was like, yo, you dancing fast. Where were you dancing fast? I'm gonna tell you, I was like, you're not gonna tell me. I was dancing fast. I was like, yo, you danced real fast. I'm dancing real fast. Dance with him? I think I'm kidding. What are that? No more fighting, Andy. No more fighting. I'm really out of the blue. I'm just being a lot of... Tigers in here. Tiger ball fight back. Yeah. I'm trying to take a piss and smoke some wood. I'm not taking a ball. I'm not taking a break. But Tiger ball fight back. It's a different issue. They fight back. They fight back. We were like, a break. Real quick. A new port break in. Oh my god. We're back. We back in the smoke break. And then you flap us, call me a pussy hole. You got your pussy hole. Your pussy hole. I thought it was pussy wall. Pussy hole. Pussy hole. Pussy hole. And then red. And then red. You got Aaron Cook's in there. I was going to win him red. Aaron Cook's Cook up. Aaron Cook's going to the crowd to kick the referee. Lord you're more than that. You as man as man as man as man. That's how we make the knowledge. Cool. Aaron Cook's us how. You got that shit mixed with the window name. That motherfucker knowledge. I like what the dog is. I like what the dog is drunk. You're all right. And you're still going to Jimin. Ride the rider. I had a situation in a ran-for. I had a suggestion. It's not a mischief to me. It's not a mischief to me. That's what I was hoping to be. Check it out now. Check it out. Empire in Boothaw. Oh, no. Shit. We're going to take Empire in Boothaw. We're going to fight a battle in Bansfield. We was driving. I'm driving. A shard man driving. I made the turn. It's like he can make the turn. He made the turn. He got on some bullshit. I was in the car with three females. Understand that? The nigga, I rode out the window. He hit a bull. He hit the window. Oh shit. You make a russ. I made a russ. Right there. I'm like police come get him. I'm like Yolton. I own the Presto charges. Let him go. No, let him go. Whatever. I won't believe you. Unbelievable. I love going. I'm like, let's get it on the problem. You know what I'm saying? Let me do what I want to do. The next day I went to the police station. 68 precincts. 68 precincts. Oh, shit. I'm over there. Don't you like me? You know what you're trying to do. You can't do that right now. I figured out. I'm going back and forth to call with son. I figured out. What's the doc's favorite year of music? Maybe 96, 87. That was DITC shit. DITC. I'm okay. One of my most favorite MCs. Big of the DITC by the way. I thought it was AG. Big of AG. AG. And then album coming out with DIT. We finished it already. And album coming out with LCC. Who? Artifacts. Artifacts. I'm gonna story about them too. Yeah. Is that where men's cousin? Is it LCC or the other one? Tame. It's the right man's cousin. Finish that. And I got a secret album coming out. I'm gonna say 12, 25, Parker Avenue. And I'm gonna give you five, Parker. And I'm gonna give you five, Parker. And I'm gonna give you five, Parker. That's where cool people. That's where the AGs show. Because we have to do it, man. So requested us to do something requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested requested That's a lot better and I'm happy God, I'm aware about that God bless We need pull up This man stays in the gym You don't know where you are You don't know where you are And I'm just naturally Oh, oh, the sh** I'm just naturally That's the way That's the way That's the way Oh, yeah It's the way Before we start the way any sets That's your warm up That's the warm up We were doing 30 minutes on the treadmill And then we're gonna do 20 minutes on the wheel We're gonna do straight forward on the wheel 20 minutes on the wheel, God That's like a minute on the wheel God, pull up and I'm ready for 20 minutes on the wheel You can do it Five minutes on the wheel, God Five minutes on the wheel, God You can do it That's a little long on the wheel You're going long on the wheel So what's your favorite year in music? My favorite year in music? Oh, no Damn Me, specifically hip hop Or in general It doesn't matter Well, see, I'm a hip hop nigger, so yeah It's not gonna be my favorite year in music Yeah, I'm fucking kidding Or eight other genres Yeah, it's gonna be hip hop shit I want to feel, I'm probably gonna say like 86 I'm gonna go find it You know, no chicks in here I'm gonna go find the bell I'm gonna go find the bell And stay in the neck What a thrill And see me move to the crowd It was just a lot of, you know Oh, sure That whole era, that whole time Okay That was some real hip hop shit Relax, chickpea But honestly, you know, but then again When they talk about the golden era Like which we happen to be blessed to be a part of Early 90s You know, that was a really good time Early 90s In mid 90s, yeah Actually, the whole 90s was very strong It's like a tapered off at the end But like it Most of the 90s was very strong It was a tapered off at the beginning It had your noses, you had your two pops You know, brand new being Tribe Called Quest What's the beat that brand new? My beat I have another artist You see, we never got into that touchy shit We never really had a lot of relaxed No other acts And we never got into that beat It was somebody that would definitely be the hands of feet My beef came like now Like with this internet shit I say certain shit about people You'd be pissing it on the generation of people Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah You're on a purpose or you don't care Listen I'm just big in the mouth Are we taking another shot, Tiger Ball? No, help me Are we skipping? Yes, I'm skipping You know me as a person and you know How I get down, how I talk You know who's ball I am You know who's ball I am? Lord Jay is that nigga Like you know what I mean? That just might say What the fuck that you thought somebody shouldn't say But Niggas is thinking so he said You know what I mean? That's what the fuck I do Like you know what I mean? So you be pissing on the wall It's not that I'm trying to piss people off on purpose Yeah people, yellow men at the same time I don't give a fuck I don't give a fuck I don't give a fuck I don't give a fuck I don't give a fuck I'm like that I'm like that's real good I saw yellow one good enough I think it lives out there See I would have been the apple I would have beat his ass if I see him What happened? What happened? I'm kind of on the back of that You know what I mean? I'm like that for real Yeah, you know what I mean? Like you know You know You knew you want to comment on some shit I said or whatever about you know White people being guessed in hip hop Which they are You know This is the black man built this motherfucker house You understand him saying Like it was a time when white people would look down upon For fucking with this hip hop shit I understand him saying You know So don't try to claim it now Because it's cool and all that bullshit You understand him saying I think so what I'm saying is When I say you're a guest in this house I think I think When I say you're a guest in this house Right, we're in a hotel right now right Right Do you feel any bad way about being a guest in this hotel No, I don't You're being treated fairly I am a treated well But guess what? I said you're a fucking house You don't own this place You just rented this room That's a fact For however many nights that you're here That's right But you can't do whatever the fuck you want We going out on the terrace to smoke That's right And it's rules to the other So that's all I'm saying When it comes to this hip hop shit If you're a guest that doesn't mean You know, I try to play you You're welcome I'm not saying white people can't rhyme And all that type of shit But what you got to understand is we started this shit And this is our fucking shit And I'm going to come in here And try to fuck with the rules This is why we used to talk about Down by law back in the day What does down by law mean? There's fucking rules and regulations Relations to this fucking shit And the only way you can get down If you down by law If you fucking If you passed all the criteria That it takes to be down See now Niggas is just down Because they got money Or they down because they down with the right Record label or whatever the fuck the case may be Fuck all that bullshit I don't give a fuck how many records you sold None of that shit That don't mean nothing to me Where you affecting True black culture How you affecting the shit that we really fuck with Because we really don't give a f*** black people We don't care how much records you sell If you whack your whack I don't care if you sell ten records You whack motherfucker on our standards Don't put that shit in my face So whatever I said some shit And this fat guy has Niggas We yellow wolf on a fucking you know All this bullshit Now you cross lines You see them saying Now when I see you It's what I'm saying And you don't even know You're not gay and how you fucking with You know what I mean You're like fuck good That's all But I'm not even I'm not a gangster Niggas You know what I mean I'm not I'm not out here Thank you brother I'm not out here Trying to be the hardest Niggas But it's certain shit You know I'm cut from a certain claw The thing about you, my bad, to cut you off But the thing about you is If you understand righteousness You understand that you never actually said nothing wrong You just stand on a certain principle Exactly And if you understand the principle Like I watch it all the time I watch you on black all the time And I'm like damn If a person came from our era He's not dishing y'all at all He never disrespected anybody white He never did He just said that you know you're a guest in hip-hop And it's like an alcohol I'll so appreciate the way you just wrote that Where does I'm a guest of standin' Where are Latinos standin' that? First of all Latinos was down with their shit from the beginning Shout out people like Prince Whipple with Shout out Charlie Chase Shout out one of the fucking Ah, crazy legs What's my nigger for? A crazy leg Shout out my nigger for the I'm a furious five Tito You know what I mean? Niggas like that Like Like Puerto Ricans and all of that First of all Let's not get it twisted Like we got dropped off of different islands She's like that It all started It all started in Africa Okay Now when you're on the island Though the grafting process goes faster You have a smaller geographical area So if the slave master starts into twining Where the phone at is? Don't hit the slaves They're gonna get lighter and lighter at a faster rate Whereas in America It's a bigger geographical area So you know the slave master was definitely into twining But it was spread out more Whereas you have certain islands Where they just fucking damn near Trying to milky it all the way They try to graft it like the shit was Pat Moose You understand? So Puerto Ricans, Hispanics Have been down with this from the beginning And I don't separate Puerto Ricans and Hispanic So when I say this is our house It's our house You understand and say You eat the blackie you white In my book You know what I mean? Although there are subdivisions But at the end of the day You eat the blackie you white Asians are the closer to black people are they? Absolutely Listen Yes, true They are Because they are I remember the original Chinese and all that If you remember the original Vietnam war The Vietnamese said Coming home Vietnam and plug Big that up as well But the original Vietnam war they said This is not your fight on black man Yeah We fought with you We fought with you But you don't This not your fight And that was super real You know what I'm saying? So even Asian people identify Because Cuban, Puerto Rican, Ecuadorian, whatever More closer than your black origins Because Africans was the original man The white is white person will tell you If you got one drop of black blood in you black Yes You know what I mean? with you. You can't be down with the air in these. Yeah, you can't be down with the air in nation. You can't be down with you know, Queen Elizabeth and all these other mother fuckers got a dry blood. You got a drop of some shit that we're not fucking with. And when you say black, you even say in Spanish. You even say you're clothing. I'm including the Indians, including you know me. I'm including all original people. You know, that's a dot ex. Yes, sir. What was the moment in brand new being a history where you said I have to either continue with the group or it's time for the dot ex to do his solo. But it was I tell you what it was was. Fuck my boy George. The drug dealer. George. That's big up. That's a noise for the drug dealer boy George. That's that was the Bronx out. But he was in group home in New Road. As that. That's how you get to grow new blood. George. He was in the group. He wasn't rich then right because he's a rich man. Okay. So he was in the group home. Wait. No, I'm not even going to front. George, the blesses with the whole bunch of shit. Right. He's a fuck with George. Like when you say, hold on a second. You took my cocaine. We're talking about whatever. Okay. You know what I'm saying, right? I don't even want to get into it like that. I like the way you said it. George, he was George. You know what I'm saying, but you know, that's a great movie as well. Is that why the boy's always make you feel like you should do some solos. You should get on your wild cowboys. And it was an effervescent party on the boat. He had to party on the boat. Gaming's to bow buckles. bow buckles. This is the original about a game? Let's go. Damn. Oh, nobody listens to us. It's okay. I don't even want to take what? He's in nobody listens to us. We just saw a robot. We're just on TV. George, but like this, George is the boss. I'm talking about Beekman Avenue. Beekman, St. Mary, Courtland Avenue. Number five, two, one, five, three, one, five, six, uh, Mero's Jackson, Courtland. How did that lead to you doing your solo? Yeah, exactly. What it led to is because George was like, I fuck with George. George had the group home next to my crib. He was like, fuck A by S, your son. Do what you do. All right. You know what I'm saying? I don't want you to sell jobs. Nah. You know what? I fuck with all my cousins and them. Now I'm saying there isn't any type TV. Who said TV? No, bro. Who said TV? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here. Say it Oh, man say it's my book say it's my mother like yeah when see be come on In February that's what I'm talking about. Do you go? It's February now. It's so so That's my car very TV right understand yeah boy George understand understand translate just translation You know so y'all get niggas could switch how you want to do or whatever you want Boy George's real nigga. That's who I was fuck away. Let's make some noise boy So sacred I only want to talk about him no more No, because is he in jail? When this boy's voice come on I'm talking about cause with the woman says the tax coming out the way That's my Many people don't want to talk about boy George. I don't even want to get How did you get the idea of getting niggas fucked up? To reveal their most inner secrets How did you wait where did you come up with that you said you know what I'm gonna have a bottle for I'm a Table full liquor Already fuck with me So they feel comfortable around And I'm interviewing Abton That's my fan. That's my fan. Yeah, that's my fan. Knock it off. Melrose, Jackson. Right. They called that a new. Come on, TB. Be it fresh. Be it noise. It's like, knock it off. Knock it off. Knock it off. Knock it off. Knock it off. That's what you want to fuck with that type of shit right here. Talk to that. Oh man. What, what? I'm keeping it on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on a rap level. You don't want to get to that type of shit. Knock it off. You're right. Oh man. I don't, George, put it like this. Yes. When they had the party on the boat, gave everybody the boat buckles. The boat buckles. It was winners for different prizes. How much work, in a half-pack? I'm gonna stop it right there. Man. Please. Come on. You just get it. That's right. Stop right there. I'm gonna stop it right there. And I won't even need to do that shit, you know. So to answer all those more questions, they just ask me, he asks me when we come up. The thing is, me, I didn't get niggas fucked up. Put that part in there. I got, yeah, this is, we're gonna get straight to it. Me and Eric, I heard them on the radio today. Sarah Sout, like Scram Jones show. And he, he, he, Jimmy? Yes. That's something very crazy. And it's real. We used to be, I used to record in his studio. In Miami. In Miami. I used to record there. And he used to play poker at the same time. Poker and studio is probably the same amount of hours, like eight, six to eight hours. If you play in a real intense poker game, and you're doing a real intense studio. And, can't say something today, they fucked me up because it's like, that's how we invented the drink champs was. We would drink all night and whoever would fall asleep, we'd be like, you ain't no fucking drink champ. And he said that today. And that's pretty much how we came up with the idea. We actually had a radio show, prior to that, it was called Military McCrazy, where a radio was on. We were all six, six, six, four, three, four, three, four. The old G, I always think that when we say that, we don't mention Leo G. Not in his kitty. We always think about that. So, big them up. And then what, so what happened was, we came together like, we love the 90s. We love that era. We feel like that's the golden era of hip hop. But we don't want to live on the past. So we sat back and said, you know what? Why don't we interview just legends? Just legends? Like, we don't want, you know, we might interview some new guys here and there, like we had a fresher on here, we had a... But he came with, he came with Royce. Royce, yeah. And we had a... Yeah, we got no problem with new guys, but this is our era. No, we got an era in hip hop. We got some of the old episodes. We got no, we had some of the old episodes. This is the way it's shooting. This is the way it's shooting. It's the way it's shooting. So what we didn't say, we said, you know why not get our legend and get it wrong. We were in the audience. You might have had for breaking out that, dude. Everybody's like, yo, what happened? That's what an episode of you break out. And you guys have to perform. Yes, Eric. And I had to be... Eric, go. ...a new managerial. Yeah. Let's say I won real quick. Managerial. There are... Wow. Let's make a big reveal. Of course. 30 years of glory. I had to get on my managerial, shit. Yeah, too. And so I had to leave the fucking shit. So, I would have loved to kick it with you all. But, we sound a little more important. To the, you know, we want to respect our legends because this is the only genre in music that once you have 10 years in this game, they try to kick you out. And I want to reverse that thing. I didn't want to complain about it. I want to reverse it. You know what I'm saying? Because a lot of people can complain about, yo, music ain't this. But you ain't doing nothing about to help that beside of the music. You know what? You're asking, no, I'm just saying. I'm talking to other people. So what I'm saying is, you can't complain about something if you're going to do something about something. So when we started this, like I said, this is a vinyl guy. Like, he's DJ's. He wants vinyl. He wants the original essence of hip-hop. He's scratching. He does the real shit. And I had to respect that. I had to say, you know, at one point, I used to tell him, man, get a fucking Serrano, man. And I'm like, why? If this is what he wants to be, and he can make you know? You want Carrie Crate? Whoa, fuck it. No, Carrie Crate. Ah, exactly. That's why Serrano is the shit. I understand what I'm saying is. What I'm saying is, we wanted to preserve the coach show. We wanted to sit back and say, you know what? Fuck that. You know, Lord Jamar, you know, so that ex-grandpulver, all these people, you have to deserve to be saluted. And it ain't just me. It ain't just him. It ain't just us in this room. Like, you have to deserve to be raised to people. Like, literally, you raised me. Like, I'm a great person because I listen to Brandon Nobian. You know what I'm saying? I had to balance the life. Levels for all back was his level. You got to balance it. So that. Let's see real quick. Let me, I want to ask them to, there's no conspiracy to this. Like, we all grown as men. You could drink whatever you want to drink. You don't have to drink. Right. Yeah. And we're not really doing interviews. We just talk and conversation. Like, if we were doing in the studio, when we was drinking and talking shit, that's where the idea came from. This is what we're doing in the studio. Anyways, I'm just saying it's a smart idea. Yes, yes. That's why. No, absolutely. I'm talking with some 16 to 24. It blew my mind because the reason why it blew my mind, is because we don't interview nobody 16 or 24. Right. Right. You know what I'm saying? What your energy is lit. Right. The energy in here is lit. Is lit. And the fact that the fact that our mother fucking might say anything, or they hear a ill story that they might not necessarily hear anywhere else, is what makes you guys popular. And I just want to say thank you. Thank you. Shout out. We really do care about them. Every really do care about them. I remember you came up to me. Uh-huh. We was at... You was with... Was it J.K. I remember. Okay. This nigga says, you know, I like that shit you'd be saying over that. Mm-hmm. He was like, you know, I mean, I want to say that type of shit, but I was saying, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I really do. And then, yeah. I saw you came with this. I saw this nigga's genius. Oh, hi, thank you. Okay. Because... Instead of you saying some shit, I like it the most. Let me just interview with niggas and let them say... I said, nigga, it's my... As a mother fucker. You are for you, my man. I'm for you. And I'm glad where it's going and where and I hope you just... And in the right way. Because we see you on Vlad TV, so, you know, we also want to throw our hat in the ring, because you know, we got the drink chance, and that worked me and my partner, DJ EFN. So, if you ever think about starting a podcast, and I am thinking about that. I think about ideas. I think about that. I think about ideas. I think about it. I could just look right now and just say, bridging the gap. You being a legend that you are, and you putting on artists like Anderson Cook. And y'all have to do a podcast together, like the old me, the new, the new, the new, the old. And he can sort of school you on why, you know, people listen to the megos. I'm not saying you're outdated, and you don't listen to the megos. But he gets playing till you wide. Yeah, I do too. And then you could be like, well, you know, in our days, you know, it's shit like that. So, and you know, the thing about podcasts, I never felt more important in my life. Like, I really, like, I mean, you know, music is like selling drugs. If I don't come outside, they'll go see Joelle Santana. If I don't come outside, they'll go see Red Man. They'll go see whatever. If I don't drop a album. A podcast, these things is me and my DMs, disrespectful. Mmm, y'all. Why the fuck? I can't see the videos no more because y'all don't know what I'm going to do. I mean, like your videos is coming out. You have to buy me this. You're doing it. You're listening to me. Whatever artist is anywhere near Miami, the Dream Chance Army, we're caught. Like, if you want to win to Miami, while we was trying to get you, they wouldn't record it to you. Like, look, Lord Jamal's here. And they'll send me to shit like these. The Dream Chance. Oh, God. What's going on? I don't know, I don't know. You all right? I'm good. Are you sure? Yeah, I'm good. Great. Here you go. I'm going to rap. Listen. He's a type of nigga. He has no shame with throwing up. Oh, okay. I can't remember telling stories the next day. Oh, man. I'm scared. Give me that. I scared. Give me that. Give me that. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. We got you right there. We got you right there. Give me that. Give me that. I'm scared. Give me that. No. This nigga came in with the soldier face. Oh, my God. What the fuck? Yeah. We got some more. I'm going to pull the back. I said, what the fuck? You know what I'm saying? I'm going to pull the back. I'm going to pull the story of the big guy. Bigger than Diego for this tour. Put the bag over my head. No, no, no. Never mind. Never mind. I'm going to pull the story of the big guy. Yeah. Yeah. Eric Cook. Talk to the people real quick. Eric Cook. Talk to the people real quick. Eric Cook. That's good. I'm going to go in here. And pancakes or something. You got some pancakes. Well, I respect that. Gangsters nigga. Let me just say. Let me just say. Come on. I'm a hip-hop artist. Come on in tie-pipes. Come on in tie-pipes. Come on in tie-pipes. Now, the group I brought to the game was dead. I was dead. I was dead. Come on in tie-pipes. My people. I don't know. Yeah, people don't know. I know that either in the middle of my they floor different I Now if I was a thirsty nigga I would have been keep trying to feed y'all bullshit niggas between now and then You understand so how did you discover Erica? It's a long story Basically I found on internet by accident Syracuse New York okay, so New York is a very big place. We're used to just five Being popping Don't give all this to that What kind of glasses those are these yeah Like But this makes the noise was that made I was we've been Everybody Listen we celebrate our artists tonight brand new being deserves to be celebrated because you know You have raised so many people you've saved so many people lives, but your music They have touched so many people and and and this tonight is all dedicated to y'all and when we drop this episode It's gonna be dedicated to y'all you're gonna see these kids post your albums Don't think of you mad at me. It gives tonight. Well, it's not you was fucked up You know one of the things I've heard over the years Fuck about that constantly that that is very rewarding People come up to me and be like yo Are you so listen to your shit got me through college? Yeah Jail and college those two places Yes, now, but that's your right there is like or You know a Rewinding thing is when bump us like y'all I got knowledge of self because of y'all Like it's because of y'all that I got an interest in learning about myself and I'm like wow Thank you because that's why we wanted to do this shit in the first place All right, you know, let's go and what's the most record when people come to you? They like this record What's the records? Miss pumps I think it depends on age for younger people Crack What my fact? Yeah, I'm against the bush. Ali. Ali. Ali. Of course. It's an Ali gene. Ali. Ali. Ali's here. No. Wait, wait, wait. You invited somebody, somebody says Ali downstairs. Hold on, hold on. He's like, yes, that's my Muslim brother. Yeah. I'm coming out. Definitely my brother. That was my own suburb downstairs. Ali. So now, let me go and try to end it. No, we don't have to end it. But it's on your own. But what are you thinking about Donald Trump? He said I have to do, y'all. Trump. Is he the walk of the beast? Is he the end of the world? Yes, sir. No. Yes, sir. No. They don't want to support the end of the world. No, he's not. Okay. He might be the awakening of the world. There is no ending of the world. Let me just say that I'm almost happy for Donald Trump. For him or for him. I'm happy he's here. You know why? You know why? I'm going to cut that one down. What? Nothing good comes without struggle. Nothing good comes easily. Trying to figure out what you're going? It's like for many years, we've had a very hypocritical society. We've had a racist society that pretended it wasn't racist. You brought it out to the table. And it allows certain black people to move in a certain way and feel like it's all good. In this motherfucking hood. Well guess what? It's not. It really isn't. And it is like Donald Trump is tired of the facade. They're tired of being hypocritical. And they're like fuck the bullshit. Let's be the white people we were meant to be. Straight up. Straight up. Okay. So now he's just talking to shit that a lot of white people are thinking in their head. They don't felt anything. They're not saying it's like people like me on the lad. Because I say shit that you might be thinking in your mind, but you think it's politically incorrect to say. Fuck off. What are you all doing? Trump is doing the same thing before the role. And you're going back. And over the role. I'm not mad at that because you can't. It's all good. Positive shit comes out of chaos. You need people to feel. You need a catalyst. You need something. Whoa. Are we really fucking up now? I know. I know. But I heard all kinds of splashing and... You need a catalyst. You need a catalyst. I know. I know. I look like a horseman. A horseman, maybe. What I'm saying is he's somebody that's needed in order for us for certain people to wake up, and put themselves in gear. Because even white people who voted for him are like, we fucked up. Some of them said that they voted for Hillary. They really voted for him. Believe that. Wow. Okay. Believe that they came back and said, yeah, I voted for Hillary, but I didn't vote for Hillary. They voted for him because it's all about what you do in the... You know, when you buy yourself, that shows what real type of person you are. So, you see, if you're hungry and you say you don't eat swine or you're going to eat the ham sandwich if it's sitting there? No. I'm not. You're not, but a sum dig is will. Yeah. If they're not to the certain 42, they're certain discipline. And that's why they want you to be weak of discipline in this world. That's why they take the party sometimes. And promote the lack of discipline. Because it's a discipline. Where are you going to save him? Obviously. You ain't never wrong. Fuck you. You ain't never wrong. Fuck you. That motherfucker, if you treat him right now, he's always rich. And he said some shit. Talk shit. Talk shit back to you. Like, he doesn't see you. He's so sensitive. And so raw. You know what I mean? Like, and anybody that allows their emotions to control them, they're like that as a weak person. And now you allow this motherfucker to run your country? Are you fucking kidding me? You know what I mean? I'm talking shit about me every day on the fucking internet. If I was to respond to all that, I'd be like, you're a braced internet a lot though. You liked it. I liked it. Yeah, because it's fun. You get it though. It's funny to me. But you get it. Like, when motherfuckers talk shit to me, I'm laughing. And like, you're not hurting me. You get it? You know what I mean? Like, there's nothing you can say to me that's going to penetrate my arm. Can we squash it with you and Ben Staples? Can we get that as well? I like Ben. This is a little young nigga. Um, I don't got no real beef with Ben Staples. That's it. I'm glad they're here. I got love for Aaron Cox. Right. Fuck Ben Staples. But, no. We didn't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm fucking in. I think somewhere. I think somewhere with me and Ben. I'm breaking a wrist. I was like, I don't even know how the scene was going to cross. Like, I don't wake up freaking about. The little homie, you know what? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm gonna ring the cell. What are you saying, time? Let's make a, let's make a Z- At the same time, I come from everywhere. You respect your OGs. And you gotta respect for that. And I think, I think you know what's off to your elders in a certain fucking way. But, let me, let me, let me, let me. I mean, that was Abigail Clark. I want you to listen. Think Vince was black. The older generation, he rocks his, out of the classroom in. OK. I just think that, you know, he's also a nigger. He's also just us. I feel that. Just us. So he just responded. I feel that. But I didn't start this. Relax. Come on. Come on. Come on. I didn't listen. I didn't listen. I You put yourself in a certain way We're gonna be right we're gonna make it right. I ain't got no problem with Everybody in that I'm knocking the fuck out Ashy Larry I'm gonna be Why you be where actually Larry there? Yeah, the snitch is crossed the line Just crossed the line he tried to make videos talking bullshit Okay I'm gonna have to back in I Mean he wasn't trying to be funny like He was just And the last one These two park at Well I'm gonna say I'm gonna do it. And I'm gonna slap the biggest man. The biggest thing that could be like, so, yo, just slap the big one. So, the fuck up. Yo, let's tell him, let's tell him, the fuck up. We can make it. I mean, in the most respect, I mean, Blake Finn is so fair. Deep. Oh, oh, oh, no, put that. I'm gonna say I'm gonna do this for you. I'm gonna move you tomorrow. I'm gonna move you tomorrow. I'm gonna move you tomorrow. I'm gonna move you tomorrow. My man, Deepon Revv. I'm gonna say him. I say him. Huh. Yonkers in his jail. Yonkers. I do. You know, so we got the trusty area. What is the Yonkers area? What is that called? That's Westchester? Yes. So, Yonkers. I'm out burning. To the fridge. Yonkers Mount Vernon. To the shelf. To the shelf. That's white things. That's Westchester. To the shelf. That was all the popping like, where black people be at, and Westchester. You know what I mean? Anything else in there? Tell us about it. And it was some real hushy. We could fight right now. Like Yonkers? I took my glasses off. But this is all the pieces. I'm not. Yonkers. Look what he's got. Look what he's got. Look what he's got. Look what he's got. Look what he's got. Yonkers. Look what he's got. Yeah. I can't ask Burton. What Burton cottage? You move from. Throwing the hands up. Riverdale. And I wanna say something real quick. We got the Dirty Diamonds. Because I see something that was recently, with Dirty Diamonds, put some on his website. I'm not gonna throw away these things, but they're not. He's afraid and he took it down. So, I'm going to shout out to those fucking dogs. We don't care about none of that shit. Like the locks, don't ever let nobody just, the locks at all. And Dirty Diamonds let somebody do it. And then he took it down. I love them. I got some little Dirty Diamonds for being away. I'm just happening. And we don't, we don't understand or we don't care what's going on. But the locks did so much for hip hop that we don't wanna ever hear anybody. And still some nice things in there right now. Me and Dots. Who? Who I can fight for? You wanna fight, soldier boy? I'm me and Dots. So, you wanna fight soldier boy? I'm just one of them next to you. And they're gonna wanna pull out your drinko. All right. I'm me and Dots. You don't want to drinko. Soldier boy? Soldier boy? I'm gonna get soldier boy? Oh, beat this shit. You take it down. I ain't from the hood. I ain't fighting for this shit. I ain't from the hood. Yeah, you don't want to get a little bit there. I'm gonna say that, I ain't from the fucking hood. I'm me and Dots. So, what's new for brand new here? Before we get out of that. For me, that only body blows. No face blows. Only body blows. Here you go. You two big, that's how it is. It's your big friend boy. Sadat. But, man, we're not welcome back. Sadat, be here tomorrow. And, Lord, be here tomorrow. I'm too big for that boy. So, we're not so big. So, we're not so big for that. So, we're not so big for that. Before we get out of here, tell us the future. What's the future? The future, sir. Mm. Like that. That was hard. The future is right now on my mind. Exactly the shit. You know what I mean? We got my men. Eric Cooks. Aaron, motherfucking cooks. Like, let me just tell you that. I would say that. You're fucked with me. Like him. Hold on. I'm gonna give you a leave. As an... Why don't I hear it? Elliot wasn't trained. I don't fuck with Elliot. I don't like him. I don't like him, son. I'm just talking about it. Fuck you. And what about it? I'll be inside. I'll be inside. I'll be inside. What happened? We have to get a fuck here, bro. Let's talk about it, man. What's Elliot do to you? I just never liked him from the beginning. What's gonna happen? I won't be ... ...and I won't care about him. ...and then ... ...that's a problem ... ...tonra comes to me ... ...and ... ...and ... ...and ... ...and ... ...and ... ...and ... Check how far the other pepper pepper blue big those chuck Wilson. Okay. 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He's one of my favorite rappers of all time. God damn it. I just want to say fuck out of you. Like seriously. Yeah. If you want to do such a fucking shit. We can be on fucking shit. We can be on fucking shit. Well, you know, I never liked it for real. But if you want to do something, it's just so good. I've been in jail for this entire personal fucking kid. I was funny when it came. Bro, it was a fucking funny kid. Yo, this is a love story. I can't take you up. No, I'm coming to hang out with us. I'm close. We've really supported you all with it. I'm not supporting you. You're gonna be overworked. This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human.