This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. Robots have apparently gotten so good at our jobs that they're now taking on our leisure activities as well. Meet Ace, a ping pong playing robotic arm built by Sony and self-trained using AI to be, from the looks of it, a 21st century Marty Supreme. According to a new study, it's beating the pros. Your rec room may never be the same. And the story there is not that AI is good at ping pong. It's that the robots are now dexterous enough and quick enough and all kinds of stuff that obviously they could do all kinds of warehouse work and, you know, whatever. Manual labor, perhaps. Dexterous Dupree, the new draft choice of the Dallas Cowboys. So the biggest AI story before we get into the masters in the universe and the tech world and they're battling each other is this. Remember Mythos? Mythos, that's Anthropics' latest AI thing that they decided not to release to the public because they think it's too good. People could use it. You could use it to hack into anything because it's so good. Bloomberg is reporting today that Anthropics Mythos has been accessed by a small group of unauthorized users who not have access to it. So this could be the end of the world. Back to you. Open AI right at the center of a coming legal fracas in California that Andrew Stoltman, a corporate litigation lawyer, described as we are about to witness the landing of the Hindenburg on the deck of the Titanic. We know it's going to be crazy and nasty. It's all about Elon Musk suing Sam Altman over... Musk claims Altman and others enriched themselves by betraying the AI company's founding mission. Yeah, Altman and Elon put this together originally to be open to the world and not for profit so that AI could develop, you know, with some guardrails and people knowing what's happened and being super safe. And then Altman went off on his own, according to Elon, and decided to make it a for-profit business. Hundreds of court filings have revealed cringy texts, emails, or private diary entries of Musk, Altman, other open AI founders, and other public figures, including Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg, a.k.a. Satan, Musk insulting Jeff Bezos a couple of times, and a journal in which a big MAGA donor muses about becoming a billionaire, et cetera, et cetera. So let's get to the cringe. I think we've set it up. Oh, Jack, did you ever on the weekend relax with a lanol rhino ketamine? Rhino K factors in the story, too. as OpenAI has said that Musk and Altman more or less came to an agreement. They had an understanding, but Elon's forgotten about it because he was so wasted at Burning Man in 2017. 2017, wow, it goes back almost a decade. Yeah, it was right in the thick of the negotiations between Elon, Altman, Brockman, and others over shifting OpenAI's nonprofit status. OpenAI has said Musk might not accurately remember the discussions. In a September deposition, Musk was repeatedly asked about rhinoketamine, a concoction that's commonly a mixture of the hallucinogenic ketamine and an anesthetic drug, oh, that is an anesthetic drug, and amphetamine stimulants. Or did Altman wait until Elon was feeling really good about everything? Be like, wait until your wife is until her third glass of wine, probably. Yeah, yeah, and I think I should get a different car. Sure! Wow, wow, that's insidious, but good illustration. Here's the deposition from last year. Do you know when Burning Man happens? Elon replies, Labor Day weekend. Late August, early September? Yeah. Do you know what RhinoCat is? No. Do you know what RhinoCatamine is? No. Do you recall at Burning Man in 2017 ingesting RhinoCat? No. Okay. Now, the judge said... What is rhino ketamine? Does it have anything to do with rhinos? Or is it just a name? Yeah, it makes you into a rhino, I guess. A wasted rhino, which is a frightening... Is that something I want, to be like a rhino? I guess I don't know my rhinos well enough. A judge has... We actually, in college, in my fraternity, we referred to rhino partying occasionally as fairly aggressive pursuit of pleasure. Why the rhino? Is it a very straight ahead, hard charging animal, I think. Okay. Yeah, I'm not a drug head. I don't know. So anyway, they've ruled out the talk of a rhino cat, but they can bring up Burning Man and suggest that maybe Elon was enjoying himself a bit too much. But wait, there's more. Would a verbal agreement hold? A verbal agreement while you're high at Burning Man? You have a conversation about it and you say, yeah, sure, I agree. They get profit. But it depends entirely on the context. Yeah, I don't know. It depends. Musk's and Musk now allegedly had a secret agent inside open a eye. A longtime ally of Musk, Ms. Siobhan Zillis, who has two children with Elon for. Oh, really? I was just joking. The two secret children that she had twins with them secretly. Nobody knew. I was just making the joke that any woman Elon came in contact with, to have a kid with, but it turned out to be true in this case. Yes, yes, too close. Too close for comfort. Anyway, so yeah, she was an insider and a friend of Elon. She was, I had OpenAI and documents in the case include text messages in which the pair appear to discuss how Zillis can feed information from inside OpenAI back to Musk. Keeping in mind, nobody knew they had two kids together and evidently they're back, quote unquote, together and have two more kids now. Anyway, she asks him, these are texts, do you prefer I stay close and friendly to open AI to keep information flowing or begin to disassociate. Trust game is about to get tricky, so any guidance for how to do right by you is appreciated. Elon replies, close and friendly, but we are going to actively try to move three or four people from OpenAI to Tesla. More than that, we'll join over time, but we won't actively recruit them. God, these are the masters of the universe. They really are. Yeah. OpenAI argues Zillow's credibility is undermined by what the company said was a romantic relationship in children with Musk that it alleges were concealed from OpenAI officials. Secret children. Let's see. Okay, you got that. You have to tell the people you work with how many kids you have? Is that a rule? No, I think if I'm working at, well, let's see, there's hardly an industry that's as competitive as this right now. I was going to say, if I'm, like, working at Chevy, and I have four children with the CEO of Ford, yeah, I think I ought to disclose that. There has never been anything as big as this if it turns out to be what they're all claiming whoever gets the you know uh artificial super intelligence first could run the world and have the first you know eight trillion dollar companies there have never been stakes this high ever in the history of mankind more gossipy liciousness zuckerberg and muskett verbally sparred for years even agreed to a physical fight in 2023 the cage match i wish that would have happened disappointingly did not happen right Messages in the court, however, disclosed a couple of times that Zuckerberg reached out to Musk offering help or information. It may fit a pattern shown in Musk's history of legal battles, even the rich and powerful kowtow to him. Now, that's an opinion in the Washington Post, but here's a text message between Elon and Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg says, looks like Doge is making progress. I've got our teams on alert to take down content doxing or threatening the people on your team. Let me know if there's anything else I could do to help. Wow. Elon hearts that comment, then said, looks like Doge is making progress. I've got our team something. Are you open to the idea of bidding on the OpenAI IP with me and some others? He says, trying to recruit Zuckerberg to buy up OpenAI. And Zuckerberg says, want to discuss live? And no idea what happened. Then one final revelation, Musk thinks Jeff Bezos is a tool. I would agree. I think Bezos is a tool also I'm sure Elon will be happy to have your moral support in a 2016 email exchange between Musk and Altman about such a negotiation about computing power and stuff Musk said he prefer to rely on computing power from Microsoft over Amazon Blah blah blah Well I didn call Jeff because you know he's a bit of a... I'm not sure he likes me to be favorable because he's got a rocket company that competes with mine. And I think the word you used at the time was, Jeff was a tool. And Elon says, yeah, yeah, he can be, you know. We can all be a tool from time to time. Let's be fair. Yeah. Anyway. Definition of tool, of course. If nothing else, we can take away from the story, the use of the phrase, it'll be like the Hindenburg landing on the deck of the Titanic. It was an interesting dream. My personal take on Elon is he is, while a loose cannon in a lot of different ways, and that can be dangerous on its own, I also think he's living in la-la land with this whole universe of basic income will be good for humanity. but my sense of him is that he's not evil no no mercurial and occasionally misguided that he doesn't only do whatever's going to make him the most profit that's my take i could be completely wrong as we all can be about anybody we don't know sure yeah and he feels like altman went you know at the very beginning of ai when it could have been an open ai that's why they called it that open for the world to see what's being developed for the planet. How do we want to handle this? You know, the other guy, Altman, decided, nah, this is too valuable. There's like a hundred quadzillion dollars available here, and I'm getting mine. You know, Elon reminds me of something Henry Kissinger once said about the United States, and I'm paraphrasing, it won't be quite as pithy as the ancient German, but he said, the U.S. is like a big, friendly dog, and sometimes when we wag our tail, we knock things over and break them. I think Elon's a little like that. Very much so, yeah. This will be fun. We're going to talk to Steve Hilton. Maybe you've seen him on Fox over the years. He's now running for governor of California, currently leading the polls, was featured in the debate last night. We'd ask Katie Porter onto the show, but we're afraid she'd pour boiling potatoes on us. Get out of my f***ing shot! She mentioned last night being a single mom raising three kids on her own, and I thought, yeah, is that because you poured boiling potatoes on your husband's head? That's why you're raising three kids on your own? That's a big part of it. She's angry, abusive, and horrible. I'm not sure you get the credit for being a single parent if you did that. But, anywho, more on all that stuff coming up. Armstrong and Getty. President Trump said in a post yesterday on Truth Social that Iran is, quote, collapsing financially. Oh, they are? I had to split an Uber to work today with Fallon and Kelly Clarkson. And I'm the only one they won't let sing in the car. Good enough joke, I guess, to mention those celebrities he rode in a car with. But the whole we're collapsing financially as opposed to Iran. The amount of pain we're all in as portrayed on the Trump-hating media. It doesn't seem significantly different than it was before. Inflation was bad. Everything was too expensive. Gas is higher, no doubt. Anywho, Trump just said, or is this the headline or Trump? Oh, Trump said, the blockade scares Iran more than bombing. I think that might actually be true, that they're more worried about the blockade continuing on a day-by-day basis than getting bombed again. yeah i was so annoyed earlier the wall street journal like their lead story on the uh the situation calls it a standoff and they make it seem as though yes equal pain on both sides it could escalate into more violence and this is just it's terrible so i like live in a grocery store and you have one box of Ritz crackers left and we've cut off all food flow into the region and we're at a standoff? No, we're not, I say, walking down the peanut butter aisle. I mean, it's just ridiculous. Everybody says either love Trump or you hate him and everything goes through that lens. Where are the truth seekers, I ask? Where? Couple of different things I want to hit on. So Trump's talking about bailing out Spirit Airline. I don't know a lot about this. My knee-jerk reaction would be to be very, very against it. Why is the taxpayer going to give a ton of money, I forget what the figure was, to try to keep a crappy airline afloat that has showed that it can't stay afloat? Ted Cruz and a bunch of other of your, like, real conservatives have come out very strongly against this move. Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like that. If they're failing, let them fail. Let them go away. Not every company should succeed. Right. The only counterargument to that that I've heard is that it's enormously difficult and expensive to start an airline. And the move is always, the trend is always toward consolidation, which gives consumers higher and higher prices and less and less options, fewer and fewer options. I'm not making that argument. I know that's been the counterargument. I'd like to know more about this one. I'll read up on it. For some reason, I find this troubling. She gets to do whatever she wants to do. Talking about Elizabeth Smart. Remember her? Held for, geez, her. Way too many years by a scumbag who was, yeah, we all know the story. Rapist and his sicko wife. That's right, yeah. Anyway, she's gotten into bodybuilding, and now she's doing this super tanned bikini strutting around high heel pageant sort of thing. She can do whatever she wants, but I don't know why I find that troubling. I feel like Looking at the picture, I feel like I did something wrong I feel like there may be a connection Trying to be in control of her body Would be the broad category of I have no business judging at all No, nothing but sympathy for the gal I don't want to see her in a bikini and high heels though Santa Monica is going to try something to try to revitalize some of their touristy areas and I have never understood, I think we as a show have never understood why it's illegal practically everywhere in the United States to walk down the street with a freaking drink in your hand. Anyway, Santa Monica is going to try it like you can do certain places and like all other countries, they let you do it all the time. Anyway, it's the idea that like you could, you know, walk from one bar down the street, walk out of the bar with a drink and down the street and listen to a band or whatever and obviously that should happen more often in my mind. This is the only time I think I've ever been in agreement with Scott Wiener of San Francisco, who I cannot stand on so many issues, but he is leading the charge to try to establish entertainment zones where adults could consume alcohol purchased from bars and restaurants on the street while they walk down the street. Like grown-ups. Treat us like grown-ups. And I'm not even going to say the caveat, because you're a child if you need the caveat. my only caveat is that he's a pervert and a child groomer. Well, right, but that's a different topic. I just wanted to throw that in. Sure. Yes. Well, I was in Europe recently, Jack, as you know, for an extended time, and by God, they let people carry drinks down the street in most of your European countries, and oh my God, the blood was just running. Oh yeah, the mayhem. The rapes, the beatings. Windows being smashed. Oh, so many beatings. Brutal. So I hope they get that going in Santa Monica and it catches on and becomes more popular other places. I don't even drink, so I don't have a dog in this fight. Gubernatorial debate in California last night. I've got to believe the ratings were very, very low. But Steve Hilton, we like him. He's the leading candidate, currently Republican. We're going to talk to him next, see what he thought of his performance in the debate and the others. Armstrong and Getty. What grade does he get on homelessness? And what, if anything, would you do differently? You have 60 seconds. Frank, I would say that the governor has made efforts. We've seen him come down to Los Angeles, actually go out and try to clean some of the streets. On effort, I would give him an A. Oh, my God. That's Javier Becerra, who is the current leading Democrat running for governor in the state of California. They were all asked, though, what grade would you give current Governor Gavin Newsom on how he's handled homelessness? And Becerra gave him an A. What would you have to do to earn a B? I mean, good God. How bad would that look? Since we got somewhere between a half and a third of all the homeless people in the entire nation now in one state what would a B look like I don know What worse than a zombie apocalypse Let ask Steve Hilton who is also a candidate for the governor of California Steve resume is long and interesting having held government roles in Britain and a long American now Steve Hilton, welcome, Steve. How are you? I'm very well, thank you. Great point from these Democrats. What a fantastic job he's been doing on homelessness. I mean, what is wrong with these people? Like I said, Katie Porter had this whole routine about, oh, I'm a tough grader because she was a college professor, of course. Of course she was, never done anything real in her life. So she makes this whole thing about what a tough grader she is. And then she says, hmm, I'd give her a B. What are you talking about? Like I said, I'd love to have been in her class if she's giving you a B for the total F for failure on every front that homelessness represents. It's so unbelievable. So you're not a politician or haven't been. It's just amazing that people who are politicians, they can't. Why do they think they can get away with saying things that nobody is believing? Why couldn't you at least as a Democrat say, look, as a as a state, as a party, clearly we've failed at dealing with homelessness because it's only gotten worse. What would be the downside of saying that? That's the thing I can't work out. Like, why are they so... And also, it was very specifically about Newsom. I mean, so you didn't even have to be criticizing the whole party or all the Democrats in California or all the mayors, you know, people like Karen Bass, who, by the way, all of them deserve an F, every single one of them. But, no, it was very narrowly on Newsom. What's he got on them? Or what's this... It's just crazy. I would suggest to both of you, It's just the nature of machine politics. Loyalty is rewarded, not innovation, not boldness, not finding problems and solving them, just pure slavish loyalty to your big contributors. Boy, that's contempt for the voters, though, because there ain't no voter, I don't care who you are, who thinks Gavin Newsom gets an A on dealing with homelessness. But anyway, how did you like your performance at the debate last night? I was very happy. A lot of people telling me that I won the debate, I had the strongest, clearest performance, not just laying out, you know, what needs to change in California, but in detail how we are actually going to do it. And that's fair enough, because I've been working on specific plans and the detail for years now. And so I can tell you that, you know, they kept trying to trip me up with these questions. How are you going to open up oil production because the legislature doesn't like it? I said, look, I don't need to because I've done the work. actually we put new people in at the california department of geologic and energy management which is the actual place where they regulate the oil industry and we can open up production that way and and so on so for each of these things i've actually not just got an answer and a headline but a really specific common sense plan and i think that's the other main point i got across which is on all of these issues it's just what we're talking about is common sense and and and And when you actually have that and you know that and it's inside of you and you don't need to sort of learn the lines or think about what is the politically correct thing to say, those things come naturally. For example, on the question about whether people who don't speak English and illegal immigrants should have commercial driver's licenses. Oh, right. Obviously common sense. That whole conversation. And yet they all waffled. Hey, since he got a lot of fire, the billionaire Tom Steyer on the stage, who all the Democrats attack just for being billionaire because billionaires are by definition bad. I'm more bothered by the fact that he's a complete phony than the fact that he's been successful. What's your take on him? Oh, yeah. I mean, he was right next to me. I mean, I thought he had a really bad night, honestly. And because he just stumbles and rambles. And this is what happens when you try and buy an election and don't try and earn it through actual work. So when you're really there and it's just you and you don't have $130 million of ads to cover up how bad you are, everyone can see how bad you are. We could barely finish his thoughts, constantly running over the time, halfway through what he was trying to say. No clear sense of what he would do about anything other than give us more of the same Democrat nonsense, but even further left. because that's the other. And the final point I'd say about him is he makes this big fuss about being a billionaire. And he didn't actually say it last night, but he says, well, I'm a billionaire, so I can't be bought. He sold himself to every Democrat interest group going to try and get their endorsement. The unions, the far left activists, look at his positions on ICE and all this stuff. He's even more extreme on all of those things than Gavin Newsom is now. It's further to the left on climate change, on immigration, on taxes. You want single payer health care. It's just unbelievable. And I think that when people look at these Democrats there last night, you say, what? This is this is what they're really saying. But after 16 years of one party rule, we want to go even further and faster in the wrong direction. No one wants that. Last night really showed me, I think, why we are definitely going to get change this year in California, because these people have nothing new to offer. and people in this state are desperate for a new direction. Right, as you've said, if you want different results, vote differently. A serious policy question, but first this. At any point were you concerned that you would be physically attacked by Katie Porter, given her volcanic temper? Well, I was in safe territory because there was no kitchen nearby, no mashed potatoes anywhere near the studio. And that's obviously, that's her go-to. That's her weapon of choice. And also I had Tom Steyer in between us, a human shield. So it was okay. Thank God for that. All right, so this serious policy question, getting back to, and I hate, I'm on the record, is hating using the term the homeless because that evokes notions of a single mother who just had one too many medical bills, blah, blah, blah. When what we're talking about is junkies, bums and junkies in the street because the innocent down on their luck homeless, they're not a parent. They don't cause the problems. They're not ruining public spaces. It's the bums and junkies everybody's talking about. Steve Hilton, governor of California. How do you address that problem differently than the F-minus approach of Gavin Newsom and the Democrats? It's a three-point plan, but number one is the most important, exactly to your point. Enforce the law. It is illegal to live and camp on the streets. Every time you see a homeless encampment, that is illegal. It's against the law. It's always been against the law. But all of these cities and the state have just gone along with it on this basic, you know, we can't we can't move people on because it's not compassionate. And then the other thing they've done is hide behind a court ruling. It was called the Boise ruling for those who really want the details. That's a Ninth Circuit ruling which stated that local governments and state governments can't remove people from the streets unless there is sufficient shelter locally available for everyone who is homeless in that area. They used that for years to say, well, we can't do anything. Our hands are tied. But even that was an excuse. It was because the ruling did not define what shelter actually meant. It could have been a huge building with with with with cots in it. You could put everyone in at one point. It didn't define it. These people defined it as what they call permanent supportive housing. These apartments for like a million dollars each. And that was always wrong. Then the Supreme Court in 2024 overturned the Boise ruling in a ruling called in a case called Grants Pass versus Oregon. There is there is there is no excuse whatsoever. And so my very clear commitment is that if local politicians do not remove people from the streets, I will, as governor, use state law enforcement resources, of which we have plenty, to remove people from the streets. Step two, exactly to your point, is to get them into treatment for addiction. It used to be clear, rehab or jail. That used to be what it was like in California. We're going to get back to that. And number three, mental health treatment. which Gavin Newsom has diverted the money from counties for mental health into his homeless industrial complex, the nonprofits and the crony developers. That's going to change, and we're going to have enough mental health beds so that people with severe mental health problems can be treated rather than where they are right now, which is either on the streets or, frankly, in our jails. That's the plan. Enforce the law, drug or alcohol treatment, whether you like it or not, and mental health capacity increased Now Steve Hilton candidate for the governor of California on the line Steve I not on your staff but I happily quit this dead job and join it And I would write for you just a couple of very short blurbs and I think this would be effective You tell me if I'm wrong. You need to make the point that California has spent whatever it is at this point, $15, $20, $25 billion on the so-called homeless problem. Somebody has received that money, and there have been no results. If we can just help people understand, the point is to distribute all that money. It's a cash giveaway to cronies with the Christmas ornament of the junkies to justify it. Exactly right. And this is when we say the homeless industrial complex, we can be really clear what that is. It is the cronies, two types. The homeless non-profits, as they call themselves. These are service providers, and the services they provide never include getting people off drugs or alcohol. So the problem is never solved. So they keep receiving the money. And some of these nonprofits have chief executives on salaries of a million dollars a year or more. That's the first part of the cronies. And then the second are these developers who specifically build what they call permanent supportive housing at an absolute ripoff. A friend of mine builds apartment buildings in the Bay Area, market rate. He says he can do them without all the nonsense that goes with it, $250,000 per door. Permanent supportive housing unit in the Bay Area, $1 million, four times as much. Where's the money going? into the pockets of these crony developers, and guess what they do with their money? A bunch of it goes in donations to the politicians who give them these sweetheart deals. That is the corruption. That's where the money's going. My final comment, I like the beard. I think it makes you look more like a governor. Really like the beard. Okay, I'll take it. I'll keep it. Very good. Thank you. Yeah, actually, Chad Bianco, the other Republican, made a snide comment about that. But the idea that we would try to pit Republican against Republican, given the grievous state of the state of California, would be terrible, so we won't. Steve Hilton, hang in there. Go get him. You've got to break through. You've got to get some attention. I hope you can. Great to be with you. Thank you so much. We're going to keep fighting even harder. I know we can pull this off. We really can. We've got to kick these people out. We can't go on like this. Alright, we'll have a link to his website at armstrongandgitty.com so you can find it easily. Seriously, though, his challenge is that there's just oceans of apathy among Cal Unicornia voters. You combine that with it, you know, the machine politics of all they got to do is organize the various groups that always will back whoever they land on. That's just what they're trying to figure out now. At some point, they're going to pick somebody, probably Becerra, and, you know, either by leaving a horse head in their bed or offering them some high-paying job, being on a board or whatever, they're going to get the other people out of the race. And that'll probably be that, unfortunately. All right, time to play Armstrong and Geddes. What's in the bag? It's actually a word from our friends at Rough Greens. If you knew it was actually inside your dog's food bag, you might never open it. BHA, BHT, ethyl, oxyquin, propylene glycol. Not hiding in cheap bargain brands and some of the most popular dog foods on the market sitting in your pantry going into your dog's bowl every single day. I like what it says here. Your dog can't read the label. They're depending on you. 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They just have to get impossibly awful. Particularly in a state like California that's gone so far left. And people, whether it's hatred of Trump or the Iraq war before it, have just, the Republican brand is in the toilet. And they're just two parties. Yeah. Anyway, we'll be keeping our eye on that. In two weeks, the ballots go out for people to vote by mail and everything like that to choose the top two candidates. It could be two Republicans. It could be no Republicans. It's the way the jungle primary works. It's the law of the jungle. Anyway, more on the way. Stay here. I mean, what is wrong with these people? Like I said, Katie Porter had this whole routine about, oh, I'm a tough grader because she was a college professor. I'd love to have been in her class. She's giving you some of B for the total F for failure on every front. So unbelievable. Armstrong and Getty. And here's the pitch. And Carlos hits a shot. Gilbert, and he caught it somehow. He did catch it, I guess. Or it caught him. Gilbert, that ball was scalded right back to Gilbert. And there's some confusion on the field. It may be that Cortez has been awarded first base. What happened was, so it was a 108-mile-an-hour line drive from the batter catches the way your shirt kind of spreads out in between the buttons a little bit. The ball went in that gap into his jersey. And the pitcher's like spinning around like, where the hell's the ball? And it's kind of hanging out of his jersey. And then he realized where it is, reaches into his jersey and pulls it out, which I didn't see the net result. That's an out, I assume. No, they gave him first base. Well, that was still during the confusion part. Oh. I don't know what they ultimately did. It took a while to figure out what was going on. I know you can trap a ball against your body in its own, I think, but not against the wall. Well, obviously not, but if it's your body, because you can catch it with your hand, right? You don't have to use your glove. Sure. Can you catch it under your chin with your neck, like you're doing some sort of juggling trick? Or your hat? I don't know. I don't remember. I'll have to ask my buddy Brian the umpire. I think people have caught it with their hats before, I feel like. I feel like I've seen that before. Anyway, that was something, which reminded me of I've seen a couple of things on YouTube recently where they have you. They have a camera at the plate and somebody throwing 100 mile an hour pitch at you. And it's the best like version I've ever seen of what it would look like to be facing 100 mile an hour pitch. And it is shocking. I don't know how anybody ever has any control over hitting it or where they want to hit it. It's miraculous hitting a major league pitch. Yeah, I've seen those. It's like a full-size video of the pitcher, and you can do specific pitchers, wind up and release, and you can have the ball come out at their release point, at their velocity, their spin rates, and stuff like that. So, you know, you're hitting against whatever, I wanted to say Ichiro, Shohei Otani. You're hitting against him tomorrow night? You can train up today on what his pitching looks like. That has to be the most amazing thing in all of sports, isn't it? to hit a 100-mile-an-hour pitch, to be able to do that at all? I've got to think of all your major sports of anything that, if you put an average person out there, that would be the hardest thing to do. Although maybe if you go with the NFL just because of the size, the average person like features. And the terrible physical danger you're in. Right. Fading a seven-stop drop as a quarterback as behemoths attempt to behead you. How about this? And this wouldn't be hard. I could do this. You run out 20 yards, turn around. I'm going to throw the ball to you. I won't throw it too hard. I could catch it, but I'm going to get killed when I catch it. So I probably couldn't catch it. Right, right, yeah. Hitting a major league pitch, I think, is probably about the hardest individual task in sports. Trump just reclassified marijuana, which is getting a lot of attention. We'll bring you up to speed on that. Obviously, we need to check in on Iran. We're going to talk to our old friend Lanhee Chen, who's one of the best political pundits out there. Among things to ask him about, how about Trump's plan to bail out Spirit Airline? Do we taxpayers want to buy an airline because it's failing? I don't think so. Or is that socialism? A lot of people are calling it socialism. Armstrong and Getty.