2-6-26 Hour 2 - TMZ's Levin on Missing Guthrie Mom
41 min
•Feb 6, 20264 months agoSummary
Chris Plante discusses the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, mother of NBC's Savannah Guthrie, including ransom notes sent to TMZ and local media. The episode covers alleged kidnapping details, family dynamics, and law enforcement response, interspersed with commentary on political violence and Democratic Party criticism.
Insights
- Ransom note literacy and specificity (Apple Watch placement, local knowledge) suggests perpetrator has intimate household access or detailed prior knowledge
- Media outlets like TMZ are becoming primary channels for ransom communication in high-profile cases, raising questions about law enforcement coordination
- Family behavior patterns (low profile, face covering, emotional detachment) are being scrutinized as potential indicators in missing person investigations
- Lack of electronic trace origin on ransom emails creates investigative challenges despite detailed, well-structured demands
Trends
High-profile missing persons cases leveraging entertainment media (TMZ) as primary communication channels rather than traditional law enforcementStructured, literate ransom demands suggesting organized perpetrators with planning capacity versus spontaneous criminal actsFamily member suspicion in kidnapping cases based on proximity, motive (inheritance, rivalry), and behavioral inconsistenciesGeographic profiling of perpetrators through media market familiarity and local knowledge embedded in ransom communicationsBitcoin ransom demands in contemporary kidnapping cases indicating digital payment preference and anonymity seeking
Topics
Nancy Guthrie missing person investigationRansom note analysis and authenticity verificationApple Watch evidence in kidnapping casesFamily dynamics in missing person investigationsLaw enforcement response coordination with mediaBitcoin ransom demandsProof of life requirements in kidnapping negotiationsDeadline-based ransom communication tacticsTucson Arizona crime investigationFBI involvement in kidnapping casesMedia coverage of high-profile disappearancesSuspect profiling in family-adjacent crimesElectronic communication tracing limitationsSibling rivalry as criminal motiveRemote property security in kidnapping cases
Companies
TMZ
Entertainment media outlet that received ransom note regarding Nancy Guthrie disappearance and broke details of the case
NBC
Network employer of Savannah Guthrie, whose mother Nancy disappeared; context for victim's family prominence
Pima County Sheriff's Department
Law enforcement agency leading investigation into Nancy Guthrie's disappearance in Arizona
FBI
Federal agency coordinating investigation into Nancy Guthrie kidnapping case with local authorities
KOLD News 13
Local Tucson television station that received ransom note regarding Nancy Guthrie disappearance
Monzo
Digital banking service featured in episode sponsor advertisement
Starbucks
Coffee retailer featured in episode sponsor advertisement for seasonal beverage promotion
Shopify
E-commerce platform featured in episode sponsor advertisement for business startup solutions
Tesco
Retail grocery chain featured in episode sponsor advertisement for coffee product promotion
People
Savannah Guthrie
Mother Nancy disappeared; released emotional video statement with family members requesting proof of life
Nancy Guthrie
Missing person at center of investigation; 84-year-old mother of Savannah Guthrie who disappeared from Arizona home
Harvey Levin
Received ransom note regarding Nancy Guthrie; provided detailed analysis of ransom letter structure and authenticity
Cameron Guthrie
Brother of Savannah Guthrie; released video statement requesting communication from kidnappers and proof of life
Annie Guthrie
Sister of Savannah Guthrie; lives near missing mother Nancy; observed as emotionally detached in family video statement
Tommaso Chioni
Husband of Annie Guthrie; bass player in band Early Black; allegedly dropped Nancy Guthrie at home night of disappear...
Chris Nannos
Law enforcement official leading investigation; stated all individuals remain suspects in Nancy Guthrie disappearance
Mary Coleman
Local television journalist who received ransom note and reported on Nancy Guthrie investigation details
Chris Plante
Radio host analyzing Nancy Guthrie case and conducting interviews with callers about investigation
Quotes
"we're actively looking at everybody we come across in this case everybody that's good it it we would be irresponsible if we didn't talk to everybody"
Chris Nannos, Pima County Sheriff•Mid-episode
"this is not a letter that was thrown together in a couple of minutes it is a very specific well organized layered letter that really lays things out"
Harvey Levin, TMZ•Mid-episode
"we need you to reach out and we need a way to communicate with you so we can move forward but first we have to know that you have our mom"
Cameron Guthrie•Mid-episode
"there are real reasons based on what's written there that i believe that this person is in the radius of the tucson area"
Harvey Levin, TMZ•Mid-episode
Full Transcript
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I think I get a prime time show on NBC and on ABC and on CBS every night. In order to offset the propaganda of the Democrat Party. You got your Jimmy Fallon and your Jimmy Kimmel and your Stephen Colbert and they each make you know $15 million dollars a year or something to do half baked, not funny propaganda for the Democrat Party. It's good to be a Democrat. Rachel Maddow makes, what does she make now, $25 million dollars a year to do a show one day a week on MS-13, DNC that nobody watches, nobody sees. It's good to be a Democrat. Yes it is. And how many crazy Madd Democrat assassins are on the loose today? Luigi Mangione is due in court again today. The New York assassin of CEO of a healthcare insurance company. He's back in court today and we learned and we just learned last night although he had been arrested weeks ago that a Democrat is in custody because he had been trying to assassinate the director of the office of management and budget, a man named Russ Vought. The OMB director, Russ Vought, targeted by a would be assassin just like the members of the Supreme Court and were targeted by an assassin that came in from out of state because abortion or something like that and was outside Brett Kavanaugh's house not too far from this radio station with a gun and burglary tools and kidnapping tools and hostage taking tools and he was planning on murdering Supreme Court justices and Donald Trump was shot and through the ear in Butler, Pennsylvania and then earlier this week another Democrat was in court because in fact he was sentenced because he attempted to assassinate President Trump on his golf course in West Palm Beach, Florida and you'd think that the Democrat party is the party of assassins or something. They have assassinated three American presidents starting with Abraham Lincoln, three Republican presidents and then a communist assassinated John F. Kennedy. You'd think that these people would have a reputation. They've certainly earned it. Isn't that amazing? So yeah, Maryland man saying that there was a fascist takeover Democrat party language there that because of the coming fascist takeover he showed up armed at the office of management and budget director, Russell Vought at his home and that seems to be okay because it's not really big news. The Democrats cede to it. That's not really big news but the Democrats and they're attacking ICE agents in Minnesota it's a violent it's not really an insurrection it's civil war that the Democrat party is waging against and the United States America against civilization and we've played audio soundbite after audio soundbite of the Democrats elected and not elected media types to what's the difference. Using this rhetoric about the fascist takeover and we've got to stop our democracy is under threat and then these people show up with guns and they want to murder the Supreme Court in the office of management and budget director and Donald Trump and they shot Steve Scalise and they assassinated Charlie Kirk and he had a court date earlier this week too. This is like a three Democrat assassin week in somewhere another because the Charlie Kirk assassin in court the would be Florida Donald Trump assassin in court now a would be OMB director assassin has been arrested. The Democrats are just redistricting the heck out of the Commonwealth of Virginia so they have a 10 to 1 majority in the House of Representatives even though the split in the last presidential election was about 45-55% in the state but the Democrats are all criminals and they're members of the state house in Virginia at their old Confederate capital in Richmond, Virginia they're planning on slicing and dicing, chopping and mincing the congressional districts until they have a 10 to 1 majority in the state. Just like the Democrats in Maryland they redistricted until there's one Republican in the House of Representatives because the Democrats redistricted and now they're planning on redistricting that one Republican district out of existence because they are the third world they are the Banana Republic they are. And when we find out what's going on with Savannah Guthrie Savannah Guthrie's mother Nancy Guthrie her disappearance which took place last Sunday today is Friday and she was brought home by her daughter prime suspect I think and the daughter's husband the daughter's husband who's got a funny foreign name and he brought her home late at night and then funny things started happening in the house and then mom disappeared Savannah Guthrie seems very very upset Savannah Guthrie's brother has put out a statement a video statement he did overnight and the other sister is kind of squeezed out of the situation and her husband who is a bass player and kind of a punky band that has a Facebook page and on their Facebook page I want to get to his audio coming up one of the things they have in their Facebook page love colon murder love colon murder so you know that they're Democrats because they love murder don't they yes they do yes sir and Luigi Mangione back in court today too because the Democrat Party is the party of assassination and murder and they love illegal alien gangs in the United States just just saying all right now we've got some we've got some audio on this that I would like to share with you because the update such as it is and there's not a ton of update you know the law enforcement the sheriff there who does not dazzle I've got to say he does not dazzle and the way he presents he speaks the way he courtings off a crime scene and then pulls up the police tape and then goes back two days later hey maybe we should look at this again not very impressive but Caroline Levitt the White House press secretary yesterday was asked and oh and I'm looking at the wrong thing there and and we've got where does this go Michael oh I apologize see I jumped ahead of myself and you don't want to jump ahead of yourself can lead to an ankle injury Savannah Guthrie's brother whose name is Cameron Guthrie it's kind of nice the family all has the same last name that's more and more unusual Savannah Guthrie's brother named Cameron Guthrie he made his own video we played yesterday the audio from the video that they posted night before last was Savannah Guthrie sitting in the middle and reading a statement and very tearful and very emotional with her sister Annie sitting off of her right elbow and her brother Cameron sitting off of her left elbow and Savannah Guthrie kind of carried the day and then I guess Cameron Guthrie decided he may you needed to make a video of his own to put himself out there and the one stand out now is the sister Annie who seemed strangely unemotional and detached and her behavior peculiar and her husband a bass player and kind of a punk band the love murder punk band here is Cameron Guthrie this is Cameron Guthrie I'm speaking for the Guthrie family whoever is out there holding our mother we want to hear from you we haven't heard anything directly we need you to reach out and we need a way to communicate with you so we can move forward but first we have to know that you have our mom we want to talk to you and we are waiting for contact now that was and again the family's working with the FBI a big time on all this in the first video had FBI fingerprints all over it this one may be a point of clarification and I got to say Cameron Guthrie seems like a pretty regular guy quite honestly and he's he's got a voice like like an operatic baritone and and he looks like kind of a big gnarly guy and and he's out there saying no we know we need proof of life you guys set out these whatever semi credible ransom notes to TMZ the entertainment media people into a local TV station and and you got a I've got a couple of couple of sound bites from from media people Harvey Levin of TMZ and one of the local TV news reporters but here is the Pima County Sheriff his name is Chris Nannos and Chris Nannos again hasn't been dazzling and it's kind of an unusual set of circumstances for sure but he hasn't been wow this sheriff's really got the world by the tail here but here is the Pima County Sheriff Chris Nannos we're actively looking at everybody we come across in this case everybody that's good it it we would be irresponsible if we didn't talk to everybody the Uber driver the the gardener the poor person whoever everybody is so cliche but everybody's still a suspect in our eyes and everybody's still a suspect in our eyes and obviously that should be the case because they don't have any actual suspects apparently but they and everybody's a suspect and they're asked are there any family members that are suspect well we're not we're not saying that we're not and the way that they're talking about the family they're trying to stay away from anything that might get them in trouble legal or political or public relations trouble there is a local TV station there KOLD kind of funny in the desert in Arizona right and it's cold KOLD cold 13 news and their reporter Mary Coleman was there and she seems perfectly intelligent she she she was there and they got one of these ransom demands the the local TV station did here is the KOLD reporter Mary Coleman we are not still not talking about the the contents of the letter just yet but some of the the information that they released I will say a lot of it is is accurate come compared to to what we have upon reading it and seeing some of those details again that that perhaps others might not know or you know some of the the amount that they were requesting and things like that we we were pretty alarmed pretty quickly and we sent that information over to the Pima County Sheriff's Department to the Pima County they got the station got this ransom note and the TMZ note she says which she's seen has a lot of the same details and I want to get to the to Harvey Levin from TMZ who was very busy last night and I've got a number of audio sound bites from him that I look forward to sharing with you here this is I gotta I you know everything is the Democrat Party's fault quite honestly these people are out of their minds and you know what here's here's another Democrat story today watchdog releases scathing report on Rashida Tlaib's alleged ties to terrorist groups sure warning of potential risks I want to share that with you coming up as well but right now let's go back to the telephones Michael let's go to Diane calling from Winchester Virginia beautiful Winchester Diane you're on the Chris Plant show well thank you Chris it's a delight and honor to speak to you it's my honor thank you thank you I want to let you know about um Virginia State Senator Saddam Aslan Salim a Democrat from the 37th district on Tuesday February 3rd he introduced a state senate bill regarding Islamophobia this bill would define Islamophobia as it relates to the crime of assault and battery as a malicious prejudice or hatred directed toward Islam or Muslims hate crime laws often lead to criminalizing speech free speech and if this passes and becomes law in Virginia because of speaking out against jihad violence being intrinsic to to Islam look at what's happening now in Europe the UK Sweden Germany Austria France they are resting in prison imprisoning their own citizens for posting anything against the Islam ideology it's not a religion it is a political system they use taqia that's the scepter fraud you would they can lie to their advantage and it's and it's fine to the infidels you can lie the infidels of your advancing the cause of Islam but even um even if they're a Muslim and you lie to another Muslim say if they ask you for you know five dollars or something and they'll say i do not have five dollars but you had they have a twenty dollar bill in their pocket they can lie like that because it's a democrat's can do that too right um if you post if you know they they use taqia this fraud intimidation rape pedophilia and outright murder um in europe they're always being arrested and then they are saying well because it's a mental illness it really is yeah it's true every time they find a jihadi that's about to murder everybody they so it's got mental issues yeah well they're an awful lot of people with the same mental illness the two soldiers who were murdered in dc just before thanksgiving day or think around thanksgiving eve uh-huh um look what he did he stripped himself down to his undergarments and he wanted to be shot and now they put him i don't know where they put him but um yeah shot two guardsmen killed the young woman the young man actually survived he just had to have a skull replacement surgery several days ago barely clinging to life all this time later and across the democrats uh they sent somebody to gun down the two israeli embassy personnel outside the jewish museum in washington and the democrat party is the party of murder and assassination aren't they diane yes um you meant one of your collars mentioned the election of governor abigayl spandager uh-huh um now and the lieutenant governor is gazala hash hashni she is a muslim a female muslim um and according to wiki um she was born in south asia but she claims indian heritage uh-huh um she supports state-level restrictions on immigration customs and enforcement officers they are not to have masks or any facial covering the democrat party is uh fundamentally transforming the united states of america just like barack obama threatened and the democrats all applauded they screamed gleefully the fundamental transformation of america they never said they were going to make it better barack obama was never on team america springs blooming at starbucks a new season calls for new discoveries like our iced uber vanilla matcha latte smooth creamy and nutty balanced with notes of vanilla it's a treat for the eyes too with vibrant lilac cues to brighten your spring mood hot or iced there are so many ways to love this stunning serve uber vanilla pouring now at starbucks subject to availability while stocks last ah yes uh all right uh michael linus uh let's see let's go to mark calling from independence missouri marcus you're on the chris plant show hey thanks chris uh like today virtually every day you chronicle the evils of the democrat party and how they are the greatest threat to this country well today is ronald reagan's birthday and the democrats were crazy when he was president too but the greatest threat then was the soviet union and reagan didn't want baton he didn't want to get along with him he wanted to defeat them and he called them out for who they were the empire liars cheaters and they should be relegated to the ash sheep of history and it is time well past time for our republicans in the senate and house when president trump's doing a great job bp pants but pants but uh they have to start calling these germ crows out for who they are and the great danger they are to this country i mean they open the border to 20 million of the illegals that's the greatest crime in the history of the free world and and it's just business as usual and uh we've got the midterms coming up and yes we have to win but the republicans have to start before that and i actually think they have to try to dismantle this party to save this country i and i think that a couple of hundred million people agree with that tired of partisan noise america's more divided than ever but independent americans is adding light to contrast all that heat independent americans daily news with army veteran paul rickhoff pressing issues of the day the leaders who are shaping what america will be in the future we're going to bring the righteous media five eyes independence integrity information inspiration and impact join the movement independent americans from believe follow and listen on your favorite platform yeah the number of uh violent uh criminally insane democrats and the news today is maybe uh higher than usual got this tattooed chest tattooed uh resistance tattoos on his face all over the place and tifa guy i played audio of him last week or maybe earlier this week kyle wagner uh lunatic leftist and tifa he brags about being anti in his video and now and tifa activists charge with threats to ice social media messages urge followers to stop officers stop officers and he should be arrested and uh the uh the biden people gave a 75-year-old grandmother two years in prison because she prayed outside of an abortion clinic in washington dc where they were snuffing out the black population well democrats are out there calling black ice agents the n word all over the place in minnesota because they're the party of uh you know the confederates or they're not the good guys minneapolis and tifa member charged in detroit with threatening ice agents and here's his video and and we played him he's he's not one of the good guys and louis jimman gioni do in court today assassin of uh a healthcare insurance company ceo in new york city assassination murder democrats turned him into a hero louis jimman gioni there they want their daughters to date him in prison because of the mental illness honestly well well president trump shot through the air of course in butler pennsylvania but the guy that tried to assassinate him his golf course in florida he was sentenced earlier this week uh and uh what he got life uh and life in prison and then plus about eight years for his gun charges separate gun charges using that on the the dems there in that in that amazing yes it is so he was and and of course the charlie kerke assassin he was in in court earlier this week too i see a pattern emerging here i don't know about you and then we've got the the missing the missing mother in arizona which is a crazy story and um and where is it going it doesn't really seem to be going anywhere but they've got they've got these ransom notes one ransom note sent to harvey levin's organization the tmz they do mostly entertainment hollywood show biz news and they break more news than the new york times does but the new york times doesn't break any news harvey levin of tmz was on the shone hannity program on the fox news channel last night and and uh say hey so well what happened how'd you get a you what you got a ransom note how'd that happen we received what looked like a ransom lighter and so we called the the sheriff's department in pima and they took the information there was something in that letter that caught my eye at the end where they mentioned both now i can say it because the fbi said an apple watch and a damaged floodlight what i found interesting because we knew she wore an apple watch their pictures of her with savannah with that watch but um they mentioned where the watch was the placement of the watch in the house and that's not something that was out there and that's not something that was out there so the note they're figuring is uh uh and and and i've got to say that uh harvey levin he's in show business he's kind of an aggressive doesn't seem like the most pleasant person in the world but he's intelligent and he's and he's been right about an awful lot of things in the past harvey levin last night there were two deadlines one deadline passed yesterday last night last evening i think five p.m. mountain time seven p.m. eastern time and then there's another deadline that is set for monday because it's all programmed like a television show or something and and was she really kidnapped or was it a family an inside job uh we really don't know of course but we've heard about the 84 year old mother who grandmother and mother who needs to take certain medications every day or her very life is in danger uh harvey levin last night when i said there are two deadlines um yes there is one that changes the demand and that's the one that that has already passed and the one on monday is far more consequential and the one on monday is far more consequential now i mean i've got to say based on what we know and the the hour of the day uh two a.m. things going on in her house she's living alone in a remote area that's very dark deliberately because people like the night sky there and i think that's pretty cool and the blood outside the front door and then you never hear from her again and there's no evidence going anywhere i don't think it looks very good when it comes to her well-being but um you hope for the best um and harvey levin talking about the two deadlines the first deadline passed yesterday now there's a second deadline for monday uh the brother of savannah guthrie who uh who came out in a video last night saying listen you need to set up a line of communication here we need some kind of proof of life that that our mother is still alive and you need to open up lines of communication they've asked for seven figures more than a million dollars in bitcoin uh in exchange and it's impossible to know whether these are legitimate ransom letters or or not um harvey levin and he said well you know it's it's uh doesn't seem like a hack or a kid or anything seems like an adult because you have all these ai things that can write ransom letters for you as well harvey levin we're not sure that this is really written by the person who has nancy um but i will say the letter begins by saying she is um safe but scared and they go on to say she knows exactly what the demand is she knows exactly what the demand is well that's uh okay um that's i'm all right okay but if that is part of the note he's communicating what he has his piece of the pie here um and harvey levin is also saying listen you guys can't just throw out a note and then disappear as though everything's taken care of you need to communicate if if you want your million dollars they're saying that this will be their only communication um and they are done communicating negotiating here's the deal and that's it and you know as the context i think that's one of the reasons the fbi and other authorities have you know gotten desperate here because um as far as we can tell it's impossible to trace the origin of this email um yeah and that's uh the origin of the email um and that is you know do you believe it do you not believe it and they say well there are a couple of details about where she left her apple watch in the house apparently now who else would know that the son-in-law would know that the daughter would know that if they're considered to be on the suspect list uh and uh who as they say they can't trace the origin of these electronically delivered by email or by whatever means uh to tmz and to a local tv station apparently other local media as well harvey levin there are real reasons based on what's written there that i believe that this person is in the radius of the tucson area and there's something very specific in there and i'm sure the fbi keyed in on this a while ago uh and it makes me think that whoever did this um if whoever wrote this letter is in that tucson area and i think it's one of the reasons too that they sent the same email to one of the local stations in tucson this person is familiar with the tucson television market so i mean a couple of assumptions there perhaps but uh but probably not entirely unsound either and the tmz show is on the local tv stations in tucson and and so tmz and the person watches tmz and i don't know if you can get cable television records or whatever showing whether this person or that person uh the you know savannah guthrie's sister and the and the sister's husband um and i i know i keep throwing that out there and i've just got to say that if you're looking for for suspects and the idea that this is entirely random seems highly improbable but that uh you know as they say the kidnappings are always about one of two things it's about getting rich getting money uh million dollars bitcoin or revenge of some kind and and who knows you know the the sister the shorter less attractive not anchor woman's sister and and her her sister savannah goes off to new york and she's six feet tall and she's a 12 million dollar year network tv anchor woman and and all this uh all this good stuff but harvey harvey levin got the got the the the ransom note why would they get it uh some you know sitting around the house smoking pot watching tv watching tmz all day long and then gets this harebrained idea um you got to get away with this you're really thinking you're going to get away with this and the and the police activity that at the house with the sheriffs that stopped for two days then they came back uh then they're at the the daughter's house to savannah guthrie's sister's house with the the husband who allegedly dropped her off late at night according to what they told the new york times and then yesterday during the police briefing the law enforcement briefing fbi and and the sheriffs department they um they said well we're not gonna we're not gonna say if there was a who dropped mom off at the house but they already told the new york times that it was the son-in-law and and he's a bass player in a bad band and and he's got a long beard and that's you know the long beard people look more like jihadis and criminals and so on harvey levin wasn't done yet this is not a letter that was thrown together in a couple of minutes it is a very specific well organized layered letter uh that really lays things out this is not a i you know if if an english teacher were to look at the structure and the grammar and everything else uh i think they would have no notes um so this is somebody it's not a crazy person who's writing this i mean they may be crazy but um they have the capacity to make demands say what they want say what they don't want and it's very very structured and it's very very structured and uh so harvey levin who's who's an intelligent man if nothing else says that it's a very literate uh letter that it is intelligent intelligently written uh that the use of the language is great that any english teacher would approve of of everything contained in the letter uh and you know those are clues those are definitely clues and the fbi and the police have the have the letter and so on but uh and one of the the page six two days ago savannah guthrie's sister annie and brother-in-law keep low profile they're keeping a low profile in first sighting since mom nancy's disappearance and they're normally you see family members out there on television talking and pleading and and then finally uh day before yesterday night before last we saw the first video and the fbi was definitely very involved in that with savannah guthrie and her sister annie and uh and her brother cameron uh flanking her and uh they were pretty stoic cameron posted a new video last night which we played a little while ago uh the audio portion of and and uh he sounds uh straight enough he really does the i still and i think i told you as many days ago now that my best girl at the dinner table before dinner said uh if i were the fbi i'd be looking at uh savannah guthrie's sister annie because she lives there and and um you know mom's got the big house with the pool and the this and the that uh and who knows you know her her taller sleeker uh wealthier more successful sister living in new york is doubtless mom's favorite and and all that you get this kind of sibling sibling rivalry uh but i i mentioned that um uh savannah guthrie's sister annie and the brother-in-law keeping their their low profile and the brother-in-law is to maso to maso chioni to maso chioni and i don't know if he's actually a italian off the boat or or a nice italian family but annie's husband um pulled a sweatshirt up over his nose and sport a pair of sunglasses like he's trying to behave as a suspicious character he's in a car and he's covering his face and wearing something you live in the desert you wear sunglasses but savannah guthrie's sister and brother-in-law uh were photographed for the first time since their mom this is two days ago nancy guthrie disappeared from her home that was discovered on sunday uh and she was apparently there through late saturday night at least annie guthrie and to maso chioni uh kept a low profile during their drive and in pictures obtained by page six of the new york post savannah's sibling attempted to cover her face with a pink hoodie while leaving the couple's two-son arizona residence now you might do that if your mother was kidnapped but you might do it if you had something that you felt guilty about and then the husband to maso chioni he's covering his face too and you got the hoodies and and all that stuff we actually got um video and for you audio because we're in radio of to maso chioni's band named early black early black he's bass player you always have to look out for bass players bass players and drummers are usually the biggest problem but here's to maso chioni playing his bass with his band and if you go to the facebook page of early black they've got some pretty strange mentions love colon murder being one of them i don't think of love and murder in the same sentence myself all the time but but the band and it's kind of a metal band and and all of that i'm kidding about bass players they're not necessarily automatically suspect automatically but this is a crazy story it's a big story and i did some reading yesterday about the frank sanatra junior kidnapping frank sanatra's son frank sanatra kidnapped for money in 1963 and i learned a thing or two about that yesterday that i had not known pretty interesting i thought what need anything from tesco like nescafe azir and 90 grams instant coffee for just three pounds 50 this easter with your tesco club card because every little helps majority of larger stores azir and 90 grams ends 14th of april club card or app required uh all right michael let's go to the telephones we got plenty more to get to on this friday because you know the democrats got crazy democrats stealing millions of dollars and getting rich and democrats stealing congressional seats in virginia um they steal a lot and they shoot a lot of people let's uh let's go to the telephones let's go to larry calling from chicago illinois listening on the great wls larry you're on the chris plant show hi chris i'm actually from a northwest suburb of chicago called lake zirc beautiful not too far from where you went to high school new chr high school sure and and i got bad news for you chris that that statue that they erected of you out in front of your alma mater it got pulled down by antifa dragged off and it's now sitting at the bottom of chicago river next to the christopher clumbestadio i'm sorry to say well i've been good company then but anyway um so i understand you're gonna be leaving newsmax your tv show on newsmax i i enjoyed watching you there i enjoy listening to you and mercedes and matthew poley but i really had no use for the liberal on there and and i just got to think and this policy of program directors and conservative media of giving airtime to let these and liberals to me that will be the equivalent of the reverend billy graham pausing his sermon and letting atheists speak to his audience see that's my analogy right there well today the the democrats sell after school satan club yeah yeah so maybe you can share that with your program director and your exit interview there when you do finally have your last show there so just thought i passed that along well you're very kind i appreciate that hi yeah it's not the first time i've heard larry about the you know the audience all the audience research says pretty much the same thing that you're saying about about the live on the show and and that's been acknowledged but nothing is done about it of course because and yes i'm i'm kind of i've been painted into a corner i have fun doing the show i will confess larry i i enjoy it but i'm just i'm working you know from 5 a.m to 7 7 30 p.m every day five days a week and for the last two and a half years and i've kind of had enough of that and i and i told him you know what i think i'd like to get back to my radio show only and and they didn't like that very much larry they they um they brought lawyers in and they said well you know we'll we'll sue you uh but um but uh we're you know i'm i guess i'm kind of i'm i guess i'm apparently locked in against my will it's indentured servitude until may until may of this year and then i will be free ready to launch your business get started with the commerce platform made for entrepreneurs Shopify is specially designed to help you start run and grow your business with easy customizable themes that let you build your brand marketing tools that get your products out there integrated shipping solutions that actually save you time from startups to scale ups online in person and on the go Shopify is made for entrepreneurs like you sign up for your one dollar a month trial at Shopify.com slash setup