NFL Draft Day 2: Nightmare WR Landing Spots, Steelers and Cardinals Take QBs, A Sean McVay Update, and RFK Jr's Awake Apnea

Welcome to the Ring or NFL Draft Show. My name is Danny Heiferts and I'm joined by Danny Kelly and our insider here, Craig Orlebeck. Day two of the NFL Draft is complete in person. We're alive. No, we're not. Round two and three is complete. We're alive together. Round two and three is complete. We are going to also have a complete draft recap. We're going to have all these episodes next week and then all summer. So stick with us. We are going to go through Friday night. This is probably the lupus will be. I just shot gun to Red Bull. Yeah. Put it on Instagram. Go look at Instagram. Craig's horror at me drinking Red Bull is maybe you want to drink more. So I don't know if I'm going to lose mental stamina throughout this. You only had one. So it'll burn out in about 20 minutes. We're going to get to everything with round two and three. Carson Beck went to the Cardinals, Drew Aller, your boy went to the Steelers. Right. So there's a guy crushing it, Texans are crushing it, kind of. All these teams that did poorly, fantasy bloodbath. Honestly, just the fantasy skill players. It was not a great draft and that's getting worse. No, no, no. But I want to start with the thing we started with last night, which is that the Rams took Ty Simpson and we were like, that's interesting that Sean McVeigh wants Ty Simpson. And then it was like, well, Sean McVeigh is actually pissed that the Rams took Ty Simpson because he was so visibly angry last night and the Thursday during the press conference. This is fascinating. And then we find out during the day today that potentially we were all completely bamboozled on that in theory, what we're appearing from multiple different angles, that actually Sean McVeigh was not incredibly pissed that he, the Rams took Ty Simpson. He's playing 40 chests that Sean McVeigh actually wanted Ty Simpson the whole time and that Sean McVeigh then called Matt Stafford, who was pissed. As he should be. As he should be. MVP year. One MVP. Almost the Super Bowl. Should have won the Super Bowl. Whatever. And that Stafford was so angry and took it so poorly and that McVeigh kind of actually pushed the Miss Ty Simpson pick on the whole building. Yes. That then Sean McVeigh went into the press conference and was like, I kind of have to play it like I'm not that excited about Ty Simpson. Starts talking about frigging Stetson Bennett. To play Kate Matt Stafford to make him feel better. And then did too good of a job and we're all like, wow, this guy hates Ty Simpson. And then Sean McVeigh was like, ooh, kind of went too far in the other direction. And so two things could be happening. One, everything I just said or. Could be bullshit. Complete and utter horseshit. And it's, he probably just didn't want the guy. And I don't know what to believe anymore. Was the entire thing concocted because McVeigh was clearly so pissed in the press that they made out this entire narrative. Please don't put it in the newspaper that I'm at. Yes. Put it in the newspaper that actually I thought of it the whole time. Or as we were saying yesterday, it would be very odd if Les Snead made a pick that Sean McVeigh did not want at all. And now the new reports that came out today are suggesting that perhaps the two of them were on the same page and that McVeigh really wanted Ty Simpson. You could argue that that is the simplest answer is, yeah, that McVeigh is running the building. McVeigh wanted Ty Simpson, but Matt Stafford fucking screamed at him. And so he was actually just upset that he got screamed at because he probably hasn't been screamed after that long in a minute. And then he was like. And then he was extremely clear on the mic. No, no. We'll see what Stetson Bennett will see if he's even the number two. We don't even want him. Yeah, fuck this guy that we just drafted. I don't know what to believe anymore. I'm going to be totally honest. I could be part of me just thinks we're getting just absolutely the run around of just the idea. Taking for a ride. Get taken for a ride. But I don't know. It also makes sense to be an actor. I don't know. That's what that's my question. Well, he did a bad job. It was so over the top that everyone was like, this is weird. He had two speeds like happy or pissed. He had there was no nuance in that performance. I mean, he looks so upset. Right. I think if I had to bet, I would be more surprised if less need and McVeigh or on different pages with the 13th pick in the draft. It doesn't make sense. That's why we talked about this. It doesn't really make sense that he wouldn't be involved in this. I know. It's just no way. What's the point of having Sean McVeigh if you draft a quarterback he doesn't want? Like it does make sense. I'm also a little worried, but we're being given the run around. But taking for a ride. We're just like it's. It's ponds. It's ponds. Yeah. What's the Russian? Yeah, useful. Useful fools. I don't know. So you guys can make up your own mind, but it does make sense that Sean McVeigh wanted the quarterback they took in the first round that is Occam's razor. Anyway, that's weird. So with that said, let's get to rounds two and three. That's like a very bizarre story. Right. Have you ever seen either before he was performing in the press conference? That isn't. Say, yeah, they do. Right. So true. Him pretending to be upset about something that he did because his quarterback is mad at him is just really high school of the Rams. Right. Dude, what? What did the Rams say the joke less need in the Kevin Demoff, the president that they always make is that we stole his. I eat. We stole his youth. Hello, McVeigh. Sean McVeigh. They're like, he made him a coach at 30 years old. They're like, yeah, we just robbed him of a normal life. Like, you know, like, well, I've known them. Who knows? Weird. Like basically the takeaway. Weird. Weird. Weird. Very weird. That's just fucking weird. Okay. With that said, let's get to runs two and three. This was not a great draft overall coming in. I think the perception was it was, you know, not that deep NIL, COVID era, people understand. But with that said, there was like a deep receiver class, but it wasn't special. But DK, I feel like the landing spots for these players, both in real life and in fantasy has actually made everything worse. It's been horrifying from a dynasty fantasy point of view or even just redraft next year. Some of the landing spots that we've seen so far are really just awful. I mean, the Browns alone got Casey Concepcion in round one is one of the coolest players in the draft. And then Craig's beloved Denzel Boston, who all you wanted all day was the Steelers to get Denzel Boston. And then the Browns took him too. And at the very least, like I wanted the Raiders to get Denzel. Just I wanted him to land somewhere. Interesting. He's now the number two on the Browns. At best. At best. Right. It's really tough. I mean, all the way outside of Cornell Tate, who's like going to be the number one. Every one of these guys is either on a horrible team or like the third option on the offense that he's joining. I mean, it's, it's, it's brutal. Even Jeremiah Love going to the Cardinals. Like nothing is good. Yeah. So can we just roll through a couple of these names? I'll try to be quick, but basically Fernando Mendoza, Ty Simpson, both might not play this year. Yep. Okay. Put it like that. The first two quarterbacks. That doesn't happen in decades. Like maybe in the Raiders best case scenario, he's like, we gate or something like that. Dude, that was probably 2004. Eli Manning and Phil Rivers was probably the last time that the first two quarterbacks. But you're right. You have Mendoza and Simpson probably won't play this year. And then you have Beck and Aller who like, you don't want to play this year. The point is they're not, hopefully not going to play. None of the rookies will play. And then as you said, Jeremiah Love with Cardinals, he lands on a team, doesn't have a quarterback, doesn't have an established quarterback, at least maybe. Bersetta's trying to get a new contract. We don't know exactly what's going on. And the Cardinals took Tyler L. Gier and he's going to snipe Jeremiah Love the same way he kept sniping Bijan Robinson and we're all going to be furiating. Fricking, yeah. Then you get Jadarian Price for the Seahawks, which I think he actually is probably one of the winners in fantasy. If Zach Scharber and he takes a while to come back, but we saw what the Seahawks did with Kenneth Walker. Very heavy times split. They believe in giving two guys the football, whatever. He might have, he have his upside cap for sure. Price is also, I might be getting this wrong. I, one of the, maybe the only first run running back ever taken that didn't have 130 touches in any single season. He hasn't hit, he has not proven that he can do heavy volume. He has not proven, even though I think there's flashes that he's good in the passing game, he's not proven that he's not a good pass protector. So that could keep him off the field early on in his career on third downs. It's not just that, and I actually think Jadarian Price could be a better receiver than people think. Cause he didn't catch 15 passes in all of college. Right. And which is not good, but I'm like, yeah, well, they had Jeremiah Love. He's a really good receiver. The problem with Jadarian Price, he also fumbled like five times on like barely any touches and three of them were at the goal line. Three of them were in the red zone. Not a receiver or a goal line back. And this is the number two running back taken. Yeah. And then the only other running back that was taken in the first three rounds was Kailin Black, non-combine invite. This is the Indiana running back. He's almost 25 years old and he goes to the 49ers. Guess what? 49ers have like wasteland. They draft a third round running back every year and we barely ever see these guys. I don't know what's going to happen with this guy. They're like Hollywood assistants to the Niners running back up running backs. I feel like their back up running backs are off the team in two years usually. Usually. You get like Tyrion Davis Price. Tracer. Jordan. Tracer. Jordan James got drafted by the Niners and it literally took the Seahawks had to go up 30 again in the playoffs for Jordan James to see the field this season. So yeah, anyway, not great. And then just going into the receivers. Cardinal Tate lands with a Titan. Yeah, solid. Solid. But you're still having developmental quarterback. We don't know what the fuck to make of this offense. Who knows? Jordan Tyson. I think Jordan Tyson maybe is the best landing spot of any fantasy player in this whole draft. I think because they're going to play an up-tempo offense, run all the plays, they're going to pass a lot. He's going to have a chance to be the one B to Chris Olave. They don't have a ton of other guys in that offense right now. Jordan Tyson is the biggest winner, I think, in fantasy. Derek Lassen, who does great stuff with me, is at the athletic called the Saints offense, the Glass Cannon. Because it's Tyler Shuck, Chris Olave, Jordan Tyson, Travis Eich. Hold your breath for the entire season. Every time anyone falls to the ground, you're like, get up. And we got, we got Mackay Lemon for the Eagles. They don't pass the middle of field. That's where he operates. They also drafted Eli Stowers, the tight end, which really interesting player. But again, his sort of area of operation is in the middle of field. This, maybe this is the Eagles saying we want to operate in that area of the field. Planning for a post-Jalen Hurts offense. Maybe. So that, so I don't know what to make of those two picks. Casey Concepcion and Denzo Boston, as we said, went to the Browns. Dude, it's actually. No quarterback there. Terrible. What if, can I pivot a little bit? Does, am I back in on Deshaun Watson for 2025? Oh, you tell us. We got Casey Concepcion, Denzo Boston. On the field, you're talking about our both. On the field. Just on the field. Sorry. And then Harold Fanon from last year, he looked really interesting. Jerry Judy, we got Cedric Tillman. If it wasn't the Cleveland Browns, Dylan Samson. If the Rams offense had everyone you just said, where it's like, Casey Concepcion, Denzo Boston, Jerry Judy, Harold Fanon and Dylan Samson and Quinn Shaw-Judkins, we'd be like, well, the Rams are going to win the Super Bowl. In general, I think the Browns had a great draft. Yes. One of the best of the first two days. And I think what you're talking about with the Browns is interesting because I think the three worst teams in the league or three of the bottom, maybe five teams in the league, the Jets, the Browns and the Cardinals all kind of have the same situation right now. Whether they are building around a quarterback that they don't have yet. Yeah. Yeah. We just talked about the Browns. The Cardinals now have Jeremiah Love, Trey McBride, Marvin Harrison, Junior, Michael Wilson. The Jets have Garrett Wilson, Breece Hall. They took Kenyon Siddique. Like they are building all these things around not having Omar Cooper. And now all these teams are going to have an opportunity next year to like slot a quarterback into a situation that like maybe won't be that bad. Yeah. So I think, yeah, that's a good point. And the complaining that we're doing right now might change if these teams get quarterbacks and we start to see these offenses really take off. But right now I'm like, who knows what to make of any of these. And to mention Omar Cooper. Yeah, go ahead. Well, just we have seen that is it is a good strategy to build a successful environment for quarterback and then get a quarterback. Like it's just, frankly, how much good can the Jets or Browns do until we acknowledge that that's going to work? And like it's just like the Browns in particular. I guess my argument though is like, so who were the Browns supposed to take? Like, were they supposed to take Ty Simpson? It's someone that wouldn't ruin my life. What do you mean? Well, I just hate that they're not one of the cool. Don't take it. Don't why don't you take Chase Basson? I got to have a guard. Take a fucking guard. Don't ruin my life. I'm Warner. Yeah. We don't ever have to think about you again. I mean, going tackle and then Casey Concepcion and Denzel Boston. But the Browns should have more Jerry Judy's though. People that I don't want to think about like Jalen Waddle should have gone to Cleveland. I don't want to think about it anymore. My favorite by taking Jerry Judy. We don't think about you now. They're the team you foist players. Yeah, we foist them apart. Yes. Who's the all foist? Like Waddle, I would have loved to have foist onto the Browns. Who's the all foist? Waddle, Jerry Judy, first team all foist. Who do we just like not want to deal with? Put them on the Browns. Wait, I can pull the Browns. I'm pulling this up. It's a good question. Should this be an episode or should we just do it right now? It should have been like flash flash pack. All foist team hurts. Jalen hurts. You go. Oh, come on. All right, fine. Well, honestly, it's shown Watson is the all foist. They have Judy Waddle. They have to be kind of bad. Judy and Watson already there. Cool. Yeah, Watson actually is the foist. His name only Browns. It's got to be like guys who already aren't are like pretty unpredictable. Oh, Dalton Kincaid. Yeah, sure. We should be on the Browns. Marvin Harrison, Jr. should be on the Browns. Marvin Harrison, Jr. How are you? Like people don't want to think about it anymore. Kyle Pitt should be on the Browns. Kyle Pitt, Matt Collins. Yeah. No, it's too cold for him. He needs shoes. Ramondra Stevenson. Oh, I like Stevenson. Yeah, but like you don't want to deal with that. Yeah. Every week it's a mess. All right. Well, the Browns. Disaster. Do I start over doing that? Well, if you're on the Browns, I won't. All right. So yeah, the fantasy situation is interesting. And there's a lot of other things. It's a bit worthy. Browns. Oh, yeah. That's exactly what we're talking about. That's smart. That's exactly it. There's a lot of other situations when I hit, but I do want to start the quarter. Do you want to keep going down? Do you? Let me do a few more and then we can get through this basically. And then Omar Kuber, as you mentioned with the Jets, another guy that we liked. And now he lands with the Jets and the Jets almost have too many guys now. So it's like complicating for fantasy. Well, the Jets, I, Gino Smith is a more competent quarterback, even after last season than I think then the Browns. I think so too. But based on what he did last year, that's, that's a risk. What, the worst record in the NFL? Yeah. Oh. Um, Dejean, stribbling 49ers, which we'll get to that pick, I think. Let's just do it now. Yeah. Very surprising, shocking pick. First pick of the second round. Pick. Yes. They had 18 hours to trade out a slot that they wanted to trade out of that. They could have gotten him around later. According to, well, according to the consensus draft boards that we've seen, this was one of the biggest reaches of any team, especially early. Where did you have Dejean stribbling? Again, receiver out of Ole Miss. I had him in the 80s. Let me see. And the Niners took him 33rd. Yeah. He was my 80. It's not good. He was my 83rd player. Honestly, like I like, I like him. I think this is just one of those things where not at 33. If stribbling was the first pick of the third round, we'd be like, great pick. Right. It's just weird that of all the picks in the entire draft that you reach for a player, the weirdest one is the first pick of the second round. Because you literally have. Yeah, you have the entire day. So you have like 18 hours to trade back the pick and then all these other teams, like basically everyone in that like next 10, like the next 10 picks have all day to be like, oh my God, this guy fell out of the first round. We want him and like all of those, the next 12 teams give you a call. And it's the most and just the idea that you would then take a reach. It's like the Niners very easily could have picked up a fourth round pick, probably pretty effortlessly and still got down five spots and get them in. And it's like, it's just, I don't know. I just think it's the hubris of Kyle again, Kyle Shanahan, like the hubris. I think all the time about his answer about taking Jake Moody, the kicker, and they were like, why did you draft a kicker in the third round? And again, all the data of all the analytics and data, the most definitive one is you should never draft a kicker in any round because they almost never work for you. Even if they have an NFL career in the seventh round, they usually end up on their second, third or fourth team. The kicker's good. The Niners took a kicker in the third round, the 99th pick or something. And Kyle Shanahan was like, it was the only spot we could get a starter. Anyone we else we took in the third round was not going to start for us. Dude, get some depth. It's the dumbest fucking thing ever. You have the fucking injury problem. And then guess who? Yes. Just some depth players. And it's like we blame the substation. It's like maybe they have no fucking depth on the team because he wants to draft a kicker instead of a backup edge rusher. And like, but this is how it goes. And I think Stribbling is an extension of that, where there's just this weird hubris of like, well, why would I need to trade back and get a fourth round? It wouldn't even start for me. Like that's I'm sorry. That's fucking stupid. Skip to stick to calling plays. Do you, Ryan Heath put this list together. Here's the list of 49ers day two. So third, second and third round skill players at the 49ers have drafted. And that also includes is a Shanahan and Lynch, basically. And this is in the Shanahan era. John Lynch, the GM of the Niners. So this year it was Kaylin Black running back. Three on in this class, which was a surprise to everyone. No one thought that he wasn't even a combine invite. I don't think anyone had him probably in the first four or five rounds. So they took him in the third. They took Dijon Stribbling in the second, going back past that. Here's some other names. And you probably don't recognize most of these. Cameron, Latu, tight end, Tyrion Davis Price running back, wide receiver, Danny Gray running back, Trey Sermon, wide receiver, Jalen Herd, wide receiver, Dante Pettis, and then wide receiver, Devo Samuels. Samuel, awesome pick. But the rest of those, I don't think any of those guys are even. They haven't hit a mid round pick since Devo. Yeah. So their skill player picks. The skill. The history is not good. Yeah. And these are what everyone sort of like has perceived as massive reaches for both of these players. So I don't know. That was that was a fascinating couple of picks. But honestly, maybe the most fascinating of those Miami Dolphins, shortly afterward, the dolphins took. Sorry, I have to look it up again. Caleb Douglas, who had the incredible distinction, Matt Hart, who's 31st on Dane Brugler's list of wide. But Dane Brugler ranked like a thousand players. It's a love day. And he's a great guy, psychotic, absolute psycho. And Dane, literally nobody does more work on the draft in the media than Dane. Dane Brugler ranked. How many running backs did he rank? Two hundred and two hundred and nine or something. There's 260 players in the entire draft. He ranked 200 running back. Like Dane's a psychopath, but he ranked complimentary. Yeah, yeah. All complimentary. Yes. Sorry. Dane's a very complimentary. No one. He ranked 40 fucking kickers. He wrote. He wrote the same. That's Sullivan Moon, who went to a college you've never even heard of. But he ranked Caleb Douglas, the 31st ranked wide receiver. And the dolphins took him in the second round. Was it the second or third round? But was it the third? Think about it in the third round. But let's double check that. Seventy. Yeah, right. Seventy-five. So the 31st ranked receiver went 75th overall. And then I don't know what teams are doing, man. This is, I thought, I think coming into this draft, this was something that people were saying was going to happen. That you're going to see some wild picks that nobody kind of saw coming. It's because it was because it's such a flat after you get out of like the first 15, 20 picks, like it is pretty much even for the next few rounds. So that's why people can their boards can be completely different. Totally. But the dolphins then took Chris Bell, like 20 picks later. And it's like, if the dolphins had just taken Chris Bell and then Caleb Douglas, we wouldn't have said anything because Chris Bell's the receiver to Louisville. We're like, oh, that's a G.G. Brown all over again. Right. Just weird. Yeah, there was a handful of those types of picks where you're just like, man, what the hell? There was a, there was nine tight ends taken on day one and two, yeah, which is the most we've ever seen in the modern era. But, but beyond just the nine tight ends, we have to talk about the third tight end taken because it was Kenyon Steeck in the first round at Oregon. That was normal. Yeah. And then the second one was E.L. Stowers, the very athletic tight end out of Vanderbilt to the Eagles. That was normal. The third tight end of the board, we all were like, what on earth is happening? Is Nate Borkercher, who is a 25 year old tight end at a Texas A&M. He's a six year player. How many catches did he have in six years? 38 catches, I think, in six years? 38 catches in six seasons. He ran a four eight. What's our guy, Doogie Hazard? What's he up to? Dude, the Jaguar's GM is 35 years old, going on 22. Traded away his first for Travis Hunter in year one, and now he just took Nate Borkercher. A reminder that when Borkercher, Borkercher, it sounds like Borscht. Dude, just a reminder that when we were at the combine last year and James, again, his name's James Gladstone, he worked for the Rams, Jimmy, Jimmy Stones, Doogie Hazard, he walked up. And so they have these podiums and like, you know, a lot of times, like the PR people have to go and like kind of mic test and everything. And so I'm waiting for this Jags GM and I'm kind of like, just like, I want to see what it looks like. And so the PR person kind of comes up and adjusts the microphone. And just starts talking for like, and I'm like, that's weird to talk and mic test in full sentences. And then I realized that that was the Jaguar's GM. And I genuinely, in my heart of hearts, thought it was a 22 year old PR intern for the Jaguar's. Well, he was a 29 year old. He looks he is the he's like Ben Solak when he's 35 will look like this guy. Yeah. Anyway, he actually does look he looks way younger than his age. I mean, he's 35. We were talking. He looks 28. Wait, can you compare him at 35 to Bill Murray when he was 33? Oh my God. If you watch Ghostbusters and Bill Murray in 19, I mean, look at his official photo. People live differently. This is the general manager of an NFL team. Hold on. We're going to hold this side by side. This guy's making that what's what's that eight? The guy that wants to live forever. What's his name? Oh, Brian Johnson. Yeah, this guy's putting Brian Johnson to shame. This man is younger than that man. This man is younger than that man. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any fucking sense. Bill Murray. He's always been weather. He is the oldest looking guy. Craig was like, imagine if we just had a friend who's like 33 is Bill Murray. We'd be like, how do you know him? I love that. There's the meme that shows you how old everybody was on Cheers during the during the heyday and they're all like in their mid 30s. They all look like they're 50. They're crazy. Yeah, Borca. So again, I think every year, Titan is the weirdest position, probably in terms of projections and where the high fives calls it the NFL draft. Intelligentsia has guys ranked. You always get weird ass picks at Titan because you're getting blocking Titan. So basically, you know, real football players, obviously, fantasy drives a lot of this stuff and in offensive past catching is a huge deal. But for teams blocking, it's huge. I think that's part of the reason they took this guy. I do think, you know, there's talk that he is a better mover. He's at the senior ball. He was like 25 was winning at Rouse and stuff. But to me, that that's my point is he's a really old prospect. No production, basically. He didn't start for the first five seasons of college. Think about that. And they're making this pick because they think he can be a good blocker. And maybe there's some upside as a pass catcher to me. This is the definition of just way too cute. You're getting way too cute. Dude, he didn't start smarter than everyone because you saw how he ran Rouse or something. Like this is just the definition of that type of pick. Who needs six years of college football to start and be a second round pick? How is that possible? Do you think it's hard? Like if you in your career make it all the way up to being a general manager of an NFL team, do you think it's kind of hard to just be like, yep, just just like take the guy that everybody else would take? You know, right? It's like, no, no, I need to flex and show that I know more than everyone else. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't be smarter than everyone. No, like there's like, I feel like you you go your whole life using analytics until you actually have the top job. You know, I don't need to use analytics. No, no, no, no, my gut wisdom of the crowds wisdom of me. That's right. It's no me and crowd. There's some GMs. If you last long enough, even individual GMs will go through phases where they they like hit on a few draft classes and think they're hot. It's like literally. He checked. It's a heat check. Yeah. It's like blackjack. And they're like, oh, I'm going to fucking pick this guy out of the John Schneider had like the greatest run ever. We're leaving a boom. And then he's like, I'm going to take this guy. We have like everyone else, you know, L.J. Collier and all these people in this first round. And then he, you know what did great when he stopped doing that shit? Right. And then he started doing safe, non-cutes. Auto draft. Right. Auto drafting. Just auto draft. It's all like fantasy football. We could run an NFL team. I really think that I really think we could run an NFL team. You just, you just grab a consensus of every, every other team's board and then just auto draft. And we just go on the. And filter for like team needs. We're just doing it from our phone. We're not even there. We need a quarterback, tackle, wide receiver, safety, auto draft those. We're gone. Done. Call it a day. Cabo. All right. I want to speak to which I want to talk about the quarterbacks. Two of them taken. So the Cardinals took Carson back to quarterback in Miami and they also took Texas A&M guard Chase Basantus, which I thought was good pick. So they went all off and then your Steelers, Greg took Drew Aller, quarterback at a Penn State. Was that the one that you wanted? How did you feel about that? I don't know. I didn't have a strong take on any of it. Like, I guess it was back Aller or Nussmeyer, but McCarthy said he wanted like a quarterback with like big, strong arm, big frame and big hands. All that. And also Pennsylvania. Well, he's not from Pennsylvania. Well, he went to college. He went to Penn State. He doesn't have to go very far. He doesn't. Yeah. The last few years, he needs to be close to Pittsburgh. I love the, the Steelers owner hired a coach from Pittsburgh to then draft a quarterback from Penn State because the quarterback that drafted from Pitt, we literally in the Steelers building didn't work. So they went to Penn State instead. How do you feel? Oh, you love Justin Herbert and Drew Aller is kind of like it's Justin Herbert couldn't hit water if you fell out of a boat. Yeah. Justin. Yeah. I mean, I guess the comparison stopped like once they step onto the field, perhaps they have similar traits when they're getting measured. But outside of that, if Justin Herbert is the terminator, then Aller is like the drunk terminator. It's like, it's like if you clone Justin Herbert, but the clone is something wrong with the clone. Yeah. Most people I talk to who watch a lot of college football are like, Drew Aller is like actually terrible. Like he's just not, he's not good. Right. But, you know, he has all those things that you talk yourself into where it's like his arm is ridiculous. If you like talk about highlight, the guy is unbelievable in a five minute highlight pack. He's got like the Joe Milton. I think he's broken people's like multiple receivers fingers have probably been broken. Gotcha. Just one of those players that has effortless velocity. Totally. Just the way he throws doesn't even look like he's trying. It's great coming out of his hands, but his footwork is like a complete mess. He, the offense he ran at Penn State was a mess. And so it's like, maybe it's Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers work on him. And then you never know. But I mean, yeah, that is the, that's the idea. And this is the thing that coaches always do is I can fix some type of deal or because a big part of his issues is the footwork. It's just when he, when he tries to do anything that's not in rhythm and at the top of his drop back or whatever, uh, he tries to move any, he tries to move his feet, he tries to even checking down where it's not in the flow of like his drop back. He, he, he feels like he's trying to aim it. He starts thinking about where he's going to throw it and he makes it really difficult on his pass catchers when all they're trying to do is just do a swing pass or something. Yeah. It's like, it's really bizarre. Mike McCarthy's offense is designed to be easy for a quarterback and apparently Aller is like a good dude off the field. There's like very hard working, good leadership skills. He's like somebody that you trust in the building will like put the work in. Like Carson Beck. Like Carson Beck. I mean, I don't, I would have been fine with Carson Beck too. That's why I thought they were going to take that the, the signaling that the Steelers were putting out of the last month was that it was going to be Carson Beck, but he went, he went. So maybe that's why they landed on out. So the other thing to add to here is the product or like the archetype of quarterback that the Steelers have taken over the last few years is very like it's like Garrett Nussma. Low trade, you know, cerebral guys that don't have the best traits. We think we can coach them up. This is kind of the opposite where it's, we want, we don't get a big guy that can throw the fucking ball. 70 yards. Yeah. So it's like, we don't need another Nussmaier in the building when we have Will Howard, Mason Rudolph, Kenny, you know, not now, but going back through the years with guys that they've tried to develop. I think our, I think quarterbacks and the way coaches look at quarterbacks is a lot like the, how I met your mother, the crazy hot scale where it's like quarterbacks, it's like, it's like the tools to actual quarterback ability scale. And it's like Drew Aller on the hot scales, unbelievable. Like he just decides the arm strength, everything, but like he can't play quarterback, but he's so hot that it's like, oh, fucking, I don't care how crazy he is. And like it's, it's very similar. It's like a guy, the coaches go six to midnight and there's nothing they can do. Yeah. There's no pressure on him. He thinks that's why McCarthy didn't stand up for the pick. He was just sitting down. Probably many reasons why he was dressed like, what did you say? He looked like he was like a snuggie here, like a onesie. Yeah. What are they? Snuggies? Is that the thing they're called? Like the things you put on for the couch? With arms that goes on forward. That's what he wears in the draft route. Well, that'd be good. That's what he was wearing for the coach photo, basically. Jeez. Okay. It's got like big, big animal slippers on. Can we stick with Pittsburgh for a second? So they drafted Jeremy Bernard, wider sea bread, Alabama, which I thought was an awesome pick. What's his first name? Jeremy. Jeremy. The germ is what we're calling it. I think it's Jeremy. We had an argument with this, but forgetting Jeremy, because it's G E R M I E E. Sorry. G E R M I E. But then we couldn't, we had to rewind because we couldn't even agree on it. Say Jeremy. Well, you think Jeremy, the name Jeremy is like a new wrinkle added because when we first discussed this months ago, DK and I were on the same page. But then this time around, we found out that DK pronounces the name Jeremy Jeremy. Yeah. You don't, you two syllables. It's two syllables. I think you're wrong. That's wrong. No, I think it's right. No, I don't think anyone named Jeremy is correct. You don't say Jeremiah love. You say Jeremiah love. Those are two different names, though. But we called my friend Jeremy and he answered the phone and said, my name's three syllables. Well, he's wrong. It's like the guy who fucking invented GIFs and GIFs. So I think it's GIF. Well, I think it's Sonny. The actor with the last name. Objectively. The actor with the last name, Renner. How do you say his in the morning? Jeremy Renner. You said it correctly. No, I said Jeremy. That's that's Jeremy Renner. You're kind of believing in trying to two and a half. That's like two and a half syllables. You, I, well, the reason that we're arguing about this, I don't even fucking care that much as usual. Like when we argue about stupid shit like this. Yeah, you don't care. Hyphid says it. He hangs on the middle syllable. Jeremy Jeremy. That's just the name. That's I'm saying the name Jeremy. OK, bear. That's like I'm in the middle. As usual saying, athlete. OK, you know what? I, you know what? While we're here, while we're here, you know what? While we're here, I had to take purge that I kept to myself, but I'm going to say it. OK. I think DK's name is pronunciations are worse than mine. OK. Did you bring evidence? Yes. Whoa. OK. It's going to have to be a lot to be son. He like my name. I'm going to scroll. My name is mispronunciations are like Sonny Sonny and share who like died when I was three years old. Sonny Corleone. Sonny or movie from 20 years before I was born. OK, well, Sonny Styles is literally named after Sonny Corleone. OK, OK, OK, but I'm saying it with the person that name was Sonny. I said Sonny Jurgensen, who died decades before we were like, right? That was one. Like that. My mispronunciations like Maestro, which is actually a word in Spanish and then Maestro's Italian. Maestro is how you say it in Spanish, not the other languages. DK one month ago said Melania Trump. Here's the show and we cut it. This isn't a hot take because you fucking said this like eight times already. And there's a massive difference. Here's the difference. When I say something wrong, I go, oh, sorry, that was wrong. I'll try to do it right the next time you try and fucking gaslight everyone into saying you did it right. You said Ellen Musk. No, I said Elon. Elon or you called him Ellen. It's been seven years. You call him Ellen Musk again. I'm not I'm not arguing that I said it wrong. I'm I'm having a great time. That's worse than Sonny again. You're arguing. You're arguing a different thing than everyone else in the fucking world. Just saying. I admit it when I say it wrong and I say, oh, sorry, I'll say it right next time. All right. Except for Jeremy. Except for this one. That's that's different. I'm actually right. Jeremy. It's Jeremy. It's Jeremy. Jeremy. This is Jeremy. Jeremy is that's closer. Jeremy. I'll accept that. Jeremy. Yeah, that's fine. He doesn't. You think Jeremy has two syllables? Two and a half tops. We can land on two and a half. I can work with two and a half. Oh, very. Just say I like very thin pancakes. This is fair compromise. But with with Jeremy or I'm calling him Jeremy Bernard, you cannot be sure because there's literally no E. This is this is how it started. We had to work through that. I thought his pronunciation was Jeremy. Son, you must name him Jeremy because there's no. So there's no. Yeah, but with that said, I do want to talk about Jeremy Bernard, the germ, the germ, patient zero. He's one of my favorite. We should wear zero. He should wear zero. No, don't tell him that he won't like it. But but the but Jeremy Bernard. I'll go back to the germ. The germ. Receiver from Alabama. He's actually one of my favorite players in the draft. And he's one of the epitome of not that fast, not that agile in theory. And yet when you watch him play, he all he does is make people miss break tackles, get upfield and he does. He's he's he's competent. He's got a good mouse per gallon. He's competent at everything he does. And the Steelers getting him is perfect. I think he's you're going to love him. He's to me, the the poor man's version of Omar Cooper, Jr. And it honestly wouldn't be that big of a surprise if he ends up being a better pro. I think he's he's one of the smoothest, most natural runners of the football in this class. And that includes the running back. He's like Debo Light. And I think it's nice for Pittsburgh, who has these like two pillars and Pittman and Matt Kaplan, the outsides. And then Bernard can be just like running the baseline, doing things in between. Dude, he's I mean, think about assuming Aaron Rodgers is your quarterback this next year. Aaron Rodgers loves the smoke route. Let's just get the ball out. Let your receivers do that thing. What is with him? You don't like to get hit. Maybe look, maybe that's why they dropped it out. Like he can just hand the ball off to German. He doesn't have to throw it to him. Yeah, it's perfect. There we go. Sweep sweep off. Yeah, I was going to throw one. You know, it's kind of like a hole through his chest. You're like, Looney Tunes is going to just let go. I was thrilled to see was got a number three wide receiver. I was waiting. And then you got Jennings, Duncan, and then they got Jennings, Duncan, the tackle out of Iowa, the fucking the tri-state hail, hail. What is it? Hey, Bale. Hey, Bale, he won back to back. So when beef days, Hey Bale, toss titles and set the event record, launching a Hey Bale weighing 60 pounds over 14 feet, six inches tall. That's fucking crazy. Wait, I'm sorry. Say that again. He said the event record, launching a Hey Bale weighing 60 pounds over a bar, 14 feet, six inches high. 60 pounds. How far do you think you throw a Hey Bale? It's country strong. Yeah. I was going to say how far he threw it. I'm like, I probably throw my back out if I try to throw a Hey Bale over 14 feet in the air. You would be able to pick it up. He's got the craziest like, like, like true red mullet you've ever seen. The thickest mullet I've ever seen. And he's a huge fan of Culver's, the fast food establishment. Oh, I thought you meant like a Culver. No, it's. I thought you were going to say a Culver. No, it's Culver's. I want to read you guys. Also, he's an avid reader. This is from Dane Brugler. He's the beast. He's an avid reader. He reads Ernest Hemingway and Stephen King. Oh, why not? Gentleman. And it's called Brugler and Jennings. Dunker or just Jennings. Dunker, by the way, Jennings is spelled with a G. Because sure. First thing he said when they took him, you were like, Jennings. And he has a particular diet that he follows to a T before every game. This is what he eats in the 12 to 24 hours leading up to the game. Five 30 PM the night before he has two to three. Also just people got the offensive lemonade so much. It's crazy. Five 30 PM the night before the game, two to three servings of pasta with meat marinara sauce, a couple bread rolls, a 12 ounce steak and a serving of two servings of fruit. That's a five 30. Three hours later. I got to get that fruit in there. I love that it was like three servings of pasta bread. And a 12 ounce steak. On the side. A big steak. Three hours later at eight 30 PM. Three hours. He has three hamburgers, three bags of baked lays chips, a hydration mix and hot chocolate. This is to a T. Just chocolate and three cheeseburgers. The next morning he somehow has digested all that. And at 7 15 in the morning, it's at 15 in the morning. He has four pieces of toast, two bowls of wheaties, a couple pancakes, two chicken breasts, 24 ounces of water and more hydration. I hope he cooks them. Yeah. What are we doing? Maybe he doesn't think that's tough. That's at 7 15 AM. Yeah. Three hours later at 10 15 AM. He has he has Morton gel, which is some energy gel I'm unfamiliar with, honey, stinger, energy, waffle and shoes. In another. What? Honey, stinger, energy, waffle and shoes and shoes. What is it? I think those are like honey, stinger. They're like little gel things. I don't understand the words you're saying. They're like chewable energy. Chewable waffle. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe that's just the flavor. Waffle flavor. Then throughout the game, he has more energy gels and power at half time. He did the same thing. And then the post game meal at Culver's, he has a double bacon cheeseburger, family size, order of cheese curds or onion rings in three sides of ranch. He eats every game. Every single day. This guy's going to love for manatee brothers. Let me tell you. That's like 50,000 calories. If I had one of these, how many calories do you think that's? It's enough for a week. It's enough for a week. A night before the game in a three hour span, him having three servings of pasta with meat sauce, a 12 on steak, two servings of fruit, a couple of bread rolls, three hamburgers, three bags of Lay's chips and a hot chocolate. Hot chocolate is so fun. And then he wakes up the next day and he's like ready to go. And he had the fucking tube chicken breast at seven o'clock. It's so good. The hot chocolate at the end is just unbelievable. I actually completely missed one. You missed a meal? I'm going to go and have a whole meal. You left a meal out? Go back three hours. 7.15 a.m. when he has the whole toast and Wheaties and pancakes and two chicken breasts. An hour and 45 minutes later, from 7.15 to 9.00 a.m., he has four more pieces of toast than another chicken breast. Jesus Christ. What the fuck? These guys do a lot. He's three chicken breasts for breakfast with pancakes. Well, they're burning like 15,000 calories a day. Anyway, he's going to be a guard for the Steelers for the next 12 years. Dude, this guy is, you getting Jeremy Bernard in Jennings' Dunker is also. I know, very quiet. Good driver for the Steelers. Yes. You should be lucky. Roger doesn't come back. We just lost Tomlin. We needed something. The Steelers, again, I think the Steelers, because Roger's is your quarterback. This is perception you're old, but you're offensive line. So you're going to put Troy Fowton. Everyone's 25 or under now. All of them are. They could all date Leo DiCaprio, unlike many players drafted by the Jaguars today. They're old. They're young enough to date Leo DiCaprio. But your entire offensive line at this point is, yeah, everyone's basically in their first, second, or third year. Yeah. I mean, you know, you have Zach Frazier, who's a great center. You have Mason McCormick and Big Mac. So we just took out of Arizona State. You have McCormick. You have Spencer Anderson. This team is and now you have. Your entire line is on the rookie contract. Which is, I mean, hard to say. How old is StK MacF? Like 28? He's like one of the old people. Yes, he is. Well, and the defense is old. But the defense is geriatric. But the offense, if Roger's retires, the offense, you might have the youngest offense in the league. Come on, think about it. I don't think there's an offensive player outside of the quarterback under over 30. You're right. Pittman is your second oldest offensive player, probably. And he's like 28. Yeah. Yeah. I actually don't think there's an offensive player over 20. You're like a buddy cop. That's right. That's the offense and the defense. OK. I don't see. There's no. I don't see. Oh, Mason Rudolph is the only 30-year-old. 30-year-old. He's an outside of the quarterback. I, him being back for a second term is just unbelievable. Aaron Rodgers is going to bring the average up. He's, yeah. He's like, he's like, they had to take Bill Gates out of like, you know, the average median income. Right. I thought Rodgers was going to have a different job this term, but he didn't. Dude, him and RFK. Do you see RFK started a podcast? You think Rodgers is, do you think that's actually what he's thinking about? Is RFK starts a podcast and Rodgers is looking like Larry David at the chicken? Dude, whatever poor bastard has to mix that audio. Wait, did you see him breathing at the hearing? I'm sorry. We have to plug. Did you see RFK breathing at the hearing? No, but I heard about it. Can I, can I apologize? Can we do that? Can you give me a producer at my podcast? Yeah, our producers for the record and we love you guys. They always complain about our mouth sounds. I don't give a fuck. Can I play this? Can't imagine. RFK has got to be like bottom zero percentile of people that you'd want to do. I will cut this if no one wants to hear it. This is RFK at a hearing this week. This is just a dig. It's just like a hug. This is a congressman. A congressman. No, a congressman's talking. Just listen to this. RFK is just breathing out of microphones. Among the many that you describe in your testimony. In that context, in your testimony, you identify your question as a bedrock appell. Oh my god. He has a wake apnea. Portreating and preventing chronic disease. He sounds like an 88 year old man. He snores when he's awake. What the fuck? Securing commitments for more than 50 medical schools to provide. Turn that mic down. It doesn't need to be hot right now. Just a mic. He's like, it's gone. He's gone. There was probably very little nutrition taught in medical school. He's clip average. And now we are encouraging that. Mr. Kennedy, are you awake? How does HHS plan to build on this progress by securing additional commitments for medical schools and expanding nutrition education into other key areas such as residency training, medical licensing, and continuing medical education? He's insane. He's in charge of health. What is his resting heart rate? Like 180? I actually never left. Anyway. It just keeps going. That was like a family guy bit. It was. Ah. Oh, my god. Somebody tell him to back up. So you know what the funniest part is? If Roger's retired, he's going to be doing a pod with RFK. I just cranked it. I cranked it. I just edited. It's like the meme of the guy throwing it. Every night? I was like, you can't listen to this. Oh, shit. Hey, sorry. I was a little congested today. That's all before he starts talking. Then you have to do the. Jennings, I think he's going to play left guard. Anyway, that's the longest clip on the internet. You never need to go that long of a clip on the internet, except for that. That's necessary. So. Poor bastard. Cardinals also got Chase Bissantus. I thought that was good. Yeah. How do you? Big guards. Carson Beck. Carson Beck is probably going to play start five games this year. He might. Well, yeah. I don't know because he's another one of those guys. He's super experienced. Yeah. And that helps. I think that gives him a better chance of success in the NFL. And they've got, like we mentioned, they've got pretty good weapons. I don't know. The arm thing is an interesting scenario here where maybe he needs like a little bit more time for his arm to get. But don't you think this is one of those situations where the Cardinals are not going to be good. We don't think. They might as well. Right. Like if you're going to take another quarterback next year, you might as well play Carson Beck this year. I mean, if there's a 1% chance, he's awesome. It's like how Tula got benched for viewers or whatever. Yeah. One example. It's like you might as well. What's the point of drafting him and then just like another quarterback in the first round next year? Right. If he does play. That's fair. Especially with the skill players around them. God. I want to RFK thing. I'm still laughing about it. How do you segue from that? Do you want to talk about bears? The bears? Dead bear? Oh, dead bears. When the hyphens is just like going on about some draft picking the third round, I'm just going to be like this. Back to someone making that sound and turning out of there awake. That's too, that was like too rhythmic. You got to like. If you imagine turning around here, that sound and the person is just fully awake. Click looking at their phone. By the way, I heard the awake. I heard the awake. I heard the awake. I was good. I acknowledged that. I got the wake up. Imagine you're watching. It's a CPAP machine during the day. You just got to walk around the CPAP. Oh my God. All right. You're trying to watch Titanic. Jack's hanging on to the door. Next to you is here. God, I need to take a break. This episode is brought to you by Amazon. Life's full of little surprises like spilling coffee everywhere five minutes before a meeting or reaching for a diaper and realizing the bag is empty. Kind of like Draft Night. You think you know the plan. Then everything changes. Look, life can be unpredictable, but every day shopping doesn't have to be with great savings on essentials. Amazon helps you cover the basics and the surprises because when life throws a curveball, it's nice knowing there's a place you can count on. Amazon save on essentials, save the everyday. I don't know how to talk about the Texans taking Kate and McDonald after that. Oh yeah. Everybody was pissed. Austin's a huge Raiders fan. I'm a huge Giants fan. And we both just wanted Kate and McDonald desperately. The Giants needed defense to tackle. Obviously, they traded Dexter Lawrence. The Raiders needed one. All we wanted is Kate and McDonald. And then the fucking Raiders blew it. They trade out with the Texans two picks and Houston comes up and gets the final infinity stone on their defense. And they get Kate and McDonald. The only thing Houston defense needs is defense to tackle. They're completely different than the Seawalks in the NFC. Seawalks are like the most complicated defense. Nothing's as it seems. Texans just line of play beat the shit out of you. And they're like, you know exactly what we're doing doesn't matter. You can't run at us. You can't throw deep. If you want to throw on Houston, you have to literally just cool. Put it on the money, 25 yards downfield on the back shoulder over Derek Stingley's fucking hands. And then sure, you can have an explosive play. And now Kate and McDonald's just going to cut off the run. And honestly, if the Texans defense is healthy, they'll probably be in the Super Bowl. So the only thing I'll say from this, I think the single, I could argue that maybe this season, the single most important player in the NFL, CJ Stroud, because I feel like his brain was just soup for the playoffs. I mean, he fumbled five times versus Steelers and they were four times versus Steelers and they won the game. And then he went into the Patriots game and had probably one of the worst quarterback performances and like, I don't want to say recent playoff history, but like it's in the top tier of like, Holy shit, you blew it. If you go to week one and like throw for $40, no one cares. But if CJ Stroud goes in, it just sucks in September, like Texans fans are going to start to freak out. And I can't think of a player whose individual performance could so swing the outcome of a season as much as Stroud. He just has to be solid and like they're an AFC championship team. Yes. So, you know, there was talk after that Patriots game, even then it was like, do they need to move on from this guy? Do they need to bench him for Davis Miller? We joke that CJ Stroud, like there's always the stat where you're like, oh, this guy had a passer rating lower than if he had just thrown the ball into the ground every time, his pass rating would have been higher. You joked that if he had literally done that during the Patriots game, the Texans probably would have won the game. He just thrown the ball on the ground. They just clun-tun first down. They might win. Honestly, it's like that's how they did in the 30s. Yeah. You guys were freaking out about this Kaden McDonald thing. Not you. High-fives. Well, you kind of were pretending to be freaking out. You were making fun of my freaking out. You know, the like practical jokes where you guys are sitting, like people are, a family is sitting in the living room and one person pretends to be sick. They're scared about something and then the other one's like, oh, it starts running around. That was like Craig with Kaden McDonald. I'm like, the Texans trade it up. He's like, oh my God. He's like, Kaden McDonald. Suddenly Kaden McDonald is the key to everything in the NFL. Yeah. Yeah, this guy that didn't go in the first round probably sucks, whatever. The Texans also then took Marlon Klein, who is a German tight end who's maybe a backup. I didn't really understand how that worked. Another one of- Being a win-own team. I don't get that. Is he at a Michigan right? Yeah. Again, it's kind of like if Coulson Love hadn't really played football a lot. I don't really get it. I don't- there's so many teams that I don't really understand what they're doing, at least when they're- It's like a Traitsy guy with not much production in the third round. He's 6'6". He's fast. I don't know if he plays. I don't know if he knows it. It's one of those people that I don't- it's hard to envision them really even being on the field for the Texans this year and any meaningful capacity. And it's just weird because I feel like the Texans are as win-own as it really gets. It's not really whatever. But otherwise though, the Kade McDonald's pick is great. What did you guys- the Eagles took Eli Stowers, the Vanderbilt Ted, and they also traded for Jonathan Grenard, the pass rusher from the Vikings. They got the Eagles sent a third this year and a third rounder next year and they got Jonathan Grenard, which we talked about on Wednesday is probably going to happen. But that's just like a good player to get for the third round at a shitty draft. Yeah. One of them in this draft and one of them in the 27th draft. For Jonathan Grenard, he's 28 years old. He had like 12 and a half sacks last year. I'm like, man, he was just sitting there for two thirds. I know. Why didn't every other team do that? I don't know. Do you ever wonder- you know, it's so funny. Sometimes I do think that like it's kind of like fantasy football where other teams are like, why didn't you call me? And that sometimes people in fantasy football are good trades. They're doing AFC. But they actually just have the time to text everyone. Right. And you're kind of like, damn, I wish I had just known. And you're like, but that person's just kind of in constant contact. I feel like Howie Rosamond's super power. He's just texting all these other GMs all the time. Yeah, he's just constantly communicating. Yeah. Like I think that's just bugging people constantly. Fine. Just take him. I know. It's not half of it, but it feels like he's like leave me alone. Yeah. Yeah. Again. Hi-fits is the GM. Yeah. I don't know what I'm there for. Vibes, I guess. On third string to be all time. Totally. Yeah. You're Vibes guy? Sure. You're the pronunciation chief. Yeah. Too soon. Yeah. Harsh. No guys named Jeremy. We don't trust anyone named Jeremy. Three syllable guys. Yeah. The other. Eli Stowers. The other team. Interesting thing. I don't know what to make Eli Stowers. He's the kind of player. He's tight end. He's. Yeah. Sorry. Tied it out at Vanderbilt. He is. I know that Kenyon's the D. Oregon Tied and ran the fastest 40 yard dash in common history, but Eli Stowers, every other thing had like one of the most athletic things ever. I think his vertical inch jump was 44 inches, which is basically NBA level. Like 45. Eli Stowers is. That is fully NBA level. Yeah. Sorry. What I mean that, when I say basically, I mean NBA, like I don't think any player at the NBA combine has hit 44 inches in like five years. I'm pretty sure Eli Stowers. He jumps 45 and a half. That's higher than Vince Carter. It's higher than LeBron. LeBron is 44. He was the state champion in high jump, or I want to say in high school. Literally a higher vert than LeBron James or Vince Carter. And if you're wondering why the vert matters, it's also a condo to explosive and all this stuff. Like he's like a crazy athlete. I also think he's the kind of player where like there's a reason they don't grab Olympians and put in the NFL. He's good at Vanderbilt. I also just feel like this is the kind of player that in a vacuum during draft season, you're like, Oh my God, this is an NFL player. But then within the context of a team, I don't know what you do with these guys. You have to have a plan for them. Yeah. And I don't understand. And like maybe the Eagles do it, but I just, I don't know. I don't want to write them off because again, even by tight end standards, he is very athletic because he is can jump higher than LeBron. That's a good standard for athleticism. He's as athletic as they come. Yeah. I mean, he's ridiculous. LeBron, what a game by LeBron tonight. Oh my God. 28, 13 and six, he played 45 minutes was like beating people off the dribble through an alley to his son. What the fuck? How are you ameliorating if you're the Rockets? 41. Through an alley to his son is 41. You're a 3-0 on the Rockets. Won two games in Houston. I do think the LeBron thing has become kind of like what you said about your various two point when Brady won the Bucks Super Bowl that you compared Brady and Alexander the Great where the people with him thought they could not die. And I think LeBron strikes that in the heart of other teams at this point because everyone in the Rockets other than Durant is kind of young and I think they all just were like, fuck LeBron is going to win this game. I can't beat LeBron James. I think it's in their heads. Yeah. Anyway. All right. Eli Stowers. Only one game in Houston, not two games. Right. But Eli Stowers, I don't know. We'll see. We can talk about him most summer, but I just don't know. People are like, oh, he's like more athletic Evan Ingram. I'm like, Evan Ingram really didn't help many teams win a Super Bowl game. He had the second most catches ever for tight end in a season, but I'm like, but he didn't help teams win games. The Eagles offensive situation is very interesting now. It's like, you have Eli Stowers, you have Mackay Lemon, you're going to probably lose AJ Brown, you have Devontae Smith, Don Tavingwicks. If you didn't know that, if you had to guess which team those players were on, you would not suggest that as the Eagles team. I want to just shout out the other team that I think is Crush. I thought the Falcons who obviously didn't have a first round pick because they traded up to get James Pierce the first round last year who they just news dumped today. I'd be back. Seems like he hired a great lawyer. I think the charges were dropped. Yeah, that's his lawyer's name. Like Yale's his lawyers literally named Yale. So it's like he got them charges dropped into the university. Get me a lawyer named Yale. Let's see. Yep. I'll take that. I'll take that. Harvard. It's lawyers like fucking. Browns. That's true. But yeah, so Atlanta Falcons, they drafted honestly one of the better. They drafted Evian Terrell, the quarterback from Clemson, whose older brother is literally AJ Terrell on the Falcons. So they were together when he got drafted. It was it's pretty awesome that he just turned his brother and hugged and like that was sick. I really like that. It was a really cool moment. And then the vibes difference between like Denzel Boston going to Cleveland and everyone there is like golf clapping and then like the Falcons are losing their minds like, oh, my God, the brothers playing together. The other I have to say, though, as you know, I have been a huge hater of Zachariah Branch to receive red Georgia. Can catch. Pass the line of scrimmage. Yeah, I think so. How far past the line of scrimmage? I mean, a couple yards. Yeah, yards, yards, yards. 2.9 yards past. A couple yards at least. His average depth of target at Georgia was 2.9 yards. As Scott Bear pointed out, Zachariah Branch, half of his catches were behind the line of scrimmage. I basically use a fake player. However, I have to admit, he went to the Falcons. He's a fake player. He is. And he's like the Falcons who might play and Tua is there along with Michael Pentax. Tua might be the starter. I have to admit Tua is the perfect quarterback in Zachariah Branch. Is that is a place he can succeed because it literally will just be screens and quick passes to the outside. And like that Tua can't throw it downfield anyway. I actually can see him at least being a PPR merchant in fantasy. If not, that's all I've ever said, I feel like maybe there's I did say though, there's a 1% 1% chance he's Tyree Kilwell. Well, to be clear, you didn't like him either, but then I hated him and you're like, no, you're going to. I always liked him. But I was just like, I dug my heels in more when Haifid said he hated him. But you particularly like this fit in Atlanta. Yeah, because I think like Haifid said, getting the if they want to get the ball out quickly, he can be kind of an extension of the run game. That was what he was essentially at Georgia where, you know, instead of lining him up in the backfield, we're just going to toss it over to him. We're going to have our guys go block and you basically turn into a running back with the ball in your hands. He's really explosive. He's really dynamic in space. I mean, that's why he's such a good kick returner. He has a really good sense for beating pursuit angles and when to make a cutback outfield, he would win tag. He wouldn't have just really elusive. And so I don't know. I just think it's of all the landing spots that we could have seen. This is one of the top ones was a fire branch or a Zachariah branch, especially in a year when, like we said before, all these guys kind of landed in really murky situations or on bad teams or where they're now canceling each other out because they both landed on the same team. I think Zachariah branch as the de facto sort of compliment to Drake London. Yeah. Because the other guys, they got cow pits too, but you have John Dotson and Alameda Zaccheus and now Zachar, Zachariah branch. Yeah. Zachariah or Zachariah? Zachariah. Right. Yeah. Zachariah or Zachariah? We could just say Zach. Zach branch. Zach branch. How did that guy keep talking to you? I can't believe it. He was like, am I on impractical jokers right now? That guy has the focus of, I don't know what that was impressive. Like, I'm sorry, I can't hear myself think. Guys, guys. Why do you shut up? Why do you hear the most annoying sound in the world? We're going to have a fuller. We're going to have multiple episodes this week with more of a like a breakdown of the whole draft classes, but I do want a couple of ridiculous things that happened today that I want to just that we might forget about that I want to hit. First of all, first of all, first, the. Oh, no, now I forget the team. We who took Logan Jones, the center or the Chargers did. No, sorry, the Chargers took slaughter. The Bears took Logan Jones, the center out of Iowa and obviously drew down in the center that from the Falcons that the Bears signed in free agency last year and played pretty well. He retired. And so the bear is. Surprisingly. Yeah, he's like 28. And so the Bears took Logan Jones today, which center, cool, good for them. More importantly, Courtney Cronin at ESPN posted today. I'm going to just read this verbatim because Logan Jones was drafted with the 57th overall pick. Logan Jones will receive a lifetime supply of ketchup from the Kraft Heinz company. Lifetime. Jones didn't know the incentive of his draft slot until informed on his zoom minutes after being selected. Quote, I love it. I'll take as much as I can get. Let's go catch up. They should, they should. Let's go catch up. Yes. It'd be pretty fun if like every time a guy got drafted, he like spun the wheel of fortune. You just want a trip to Porto Bay. That would actually make the draft way more. Way better. Lifetime supply of ketchup. I think the lifetime supply shtick is so archaic in like 70s or 60s or 70s. How does that work? It does. How do you redeem your lifetime? Is he the guy he texts like, Hey, I'm out of ketchup. Like, I don't have a problem. Hold on. We fucking closed years ago. We don't, we're not making a product anymore. What button? Imagine calling the number on the back of the ketchup bottle and being like, press one for customer service and being like, what number is the fucking lifetime? If you have a lifetime, it's a life. Special black card or something. He goes to the supermarket. Yeah. It's like Chipotle is the black. The Heinz bottles. Yeah. Okay. Grab as many as you want. He's right. Wait. Oh, wait, wait, hold on. Email us at ringerfantasyfootballgmail.com. If you or anyone, you know, ever received a lifetime supply of anything. That's really good. And let us know how that shit works. I want to know what's the thing you would most want, like a reasonable everyday product that you use that you most want to lifetime supply, like a great ceremonial grade matcha. You that's a great question. Yeah, I don't really do you want something that you use every day? Do you want something that is a luxury that you wouldn't typically buy? I think I mean, we're talking about ketchup. So something that you. Yeah, it's a practical something that's not luxurious dishwasher. But you can't like resell it or something. What about I would like a lifetime supply of socks. Oh, I like that. Oh, God, that's all I want. Every, you know, that's all I want. I can't handle it. Dude, I hate packing for socks. Shout out to Jackson Bevan's who sent me socks. The last time I talked about this on the show, I hate socks. I hate dealing with socks. Sox anxiety. I have the pairing socks. It fucking sucks. I hate having to pair socks. Possibly be stressed about socks. Well, I don't understand. They work. You pair it with the pair. Oh, my God. And traveling. You just describe any of your two white socks that are the same brain. But then sometimes you wear white socks and thinking that's supposed to wear white socks and people do. I can just own it. There is almost no circumstance in a normal setting, not a formal setting where white socks is not. That's what you think. No, no, that's right. No, that's not true. A non formal setting. You can wear white socks. Yeah. At 90 percent of the time, maybe more 98 problem. But like a casual setting. What if we're in shorts? Of course you can wear white white ankle socks. Yes. Oh, it depends on the length. I suppose. Of course you wear normal socks. What are normal? Normal white regular tube. So how much how much how much shock and show if we're in shorts? Any length is fine. No, it's not. No, it's not. I don't I don't. I would. I get shocked. Nowadays, millennials get shame for wearing ankle socks. No, yes. Is all the all the all the hip kids. You say no shows. Yeah, you're not allowed to wear it. No, well, not no show. No, you're not. You're not allowed to wear ankle socks. You talking about the ones that are only a couple inches above? Yeah, those are not cool. This is what I'm saying. You can't wear any length. It's like it matters. No, you can. You can wear ankle socks and like the mid like quarter length socks. You can do both of those. It's fine. Dude, the midcavs. I cannot wear midcavs anymore. That's ridiculous. That's like a place in midcavs. It's a quarter set length is what they're called. I can't. I can't. I can't just. Not so much to people. I don't want to deal with it. Does it? Like that's fine. You can wear those with anything because you're wearing long pants. You're going to wear that with shorts. Yes, you can. I don't know. This is the most. You do just wear socks. I want a lifetime supply. I don't want to deal with it. Sorry. I asked. Actually, that's a good one, though. Socks. Socks is good. Socks would be nice. Like just crisp t-shirts. Oh, white tees. I don't know. White tees is a good call, actually. You know what? Can somebody email us? I've been looking for like the best somewhat affordable white tea that doesn't bake a neck immediately. It doesn't shrink in the wash. Bacon neck. Bacon neck. It's like the bacon collar. The Jordan commercial. Oh, yeah. You know the Jordan commercial where he's got the Hitler mustache? Sorry, what? The Jordan commercial where he's like the bacon collar, but he's got the Hitler mustache. Yeah. I've never heard that expression. You've never heard bacon collar? Um. No one also. I understand it, though. LeBron, do you think LeBron can be the goat if he never tried to bring back the Hitler mustache? That's the ultimate heat check, is Jordan was like, I'm going to just do that. You think you're just saying if LeBron brought back the Hitler mustache, he would now be the goat? He couldn't even try. Jordan tried, which is fucking nuts and doesn't get discussed. It's like actually crazy. To be honest, that like Jordan thinking he could do that is why he's the goat. Exactly. I completely agree. I completely agree. It's crazy. He did it. He didn't just do it. He's like, I'm going to give a fuck. He didn't just go out and get photographed with TMZ. He did that in a commercial for t-shirts. Yeah. He was like, I'm going to wear a Hitler mustache. Hey, man, literally no one's done this since Hitler. That's what I wondered. Did anyone say anything? Hold on. I'm Googling hate. Jordan, bacon collar, Hitler's stash. You don't need to just do Haynes. Dude, he really was. He really was a. It was. It really was just like that's fucking crazy. He kind of pulls it off. He does not. You know what I tell him? I don't think he looks bad. Well, I mean, he kind of. I don't think I don't like it. I think it's awful. I mean, look, the association with Hitler, bad, but on its own. I think in a vacuum, it's bad too. You do? In a vacuum. Yeah, it does just look. It's like he has, you know, one of those, like, what do they call the little, like, flavor saver thing that was. Soul patch. And like the, like, what's Fred Durst? Yeah, that's like you just extend it to the. Oh, I told you. I told you I always could. No, it's not Fred Durst. He killed his friend. Which which? Who killed his wife? Robert Durst. I always confuse them. What? I always confuse Robert Durst from the Jinx and Fred Bill Barnwell knows this. I did this on his show once. Same name. I always confuse the Dursts of which one's the murderer. Yeah, Durst had like the the soul patch down to the chin, though. Yeah, that's not what I was thinking. You know, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, that's not it. Soul patch is what I was looking for. Soul patch. Jesus Christ. What a name. Oh, he's got it. OK. Soul patch. Who named that? They should be in prison. Man, Fieri's actually got the goatee, but he just has the dyed strip. He's got the dyed landing strip on the chin. Don't call it a landing strip. You call him the dyed. Stop. Actually, I would never slander Guy Fieri. His son goes to S-Tissue. Guy Fieri's the goat. I would. Can we get Guy Fieri on the show? He sounds like he put a name on the S-Tissue basketball Hell yeah. Can we get Guy Fieri on the show? Go state. Can we get him? Do you think we get Guy Fieri? We can try. We can certainly try. Guy Fieri. Come on. Come on the show, Guy Fieri. Guys, come on Flavortown. I also want to tell you guys something. OK. It's serious though. Email us at ringofanciefootballgmail.com. If anybody won a lifetime supply, I really want you to email us. And the white tee thing. The question. The Uniqlo has good ones. OK. I'll send you the link. The Chiefs took the past Russia at Oklahoma, Armace and Thomas. Yeah. I don't know how we went the whole draft season talking about this. I thought we did mention this. We did not. OK. You and I talked about it. I don't even know if Craig. We off-line. Do you know what Armace and Thomas stands for? Haven't we talked about this? Yeah. Or maybe we did. Nothing. I can't tell you. His name is Armace. Oh yeah, we did talk about this. There's no dot. It's Armace. It doesn't mean it's just an R. So his mom said it doesn't. Are you going to the mall later? I was wondering. But yeah, basically there's a lot of Rs in like our names in his mom's family. But she didn't really like the R names. So she wanted to keep the traditional lives. So she went with Armace. Why didn't? That kind of sounds cool. It sounds like he's an author. Yeah. It does. Armace and Thomas sounds nice. Armace and yeah. Yeah. It does sound like an author. What does he go by? R? Good question. I think he goes by Mason. He goes by Mason. Or Armace. Mason considered his middle name. No. Armace is his first name. Does he have a middle name? I think so. I don't know what his name is. He went by. According to the beasts, again, invaluable. Dane Brugler, I cannot shout him out enough. The work he does on the beat. Danny Kelly. He's the Draft Go. You do a great Draft God and NFLDraft.TheRanger.com. You do not have 40 kickers ranked. I don't know what Armace and Thomas went by as a child. But it says here he went by Mason. Dane Brugler has the professions of everybody's parents of the 1,000 players that are draft eligible. Shout out to Dane. I don't know what he does all year, but that's incredible. I don't know how much Sunny gets. This is what he does. I know. It's unbelievable. He's like Belichick, the confetti's, raining down. He's like, we're so behind on this Draft. I also want to shout out Mark Ingram, who won. Coming out for the Ravens for each pick was bizarre, because I associate Mark Ingram with the Saints. Oh, 100%. Me too. Yeah. But Mark Ingram just coming out and holding up his son to the microphone. And his son's like, just steal our sock. To 300,000 people or whatever. That takes some balls. I want to play a little game, which is did your team take anyone too old to date Leo DiCaprio? Because of the bizarre circumstances of COVID and NAL and everything, there are multiple players in this draft who will be 25 years old for week one. Who are maybe already 25 too. Or already 25, which again, is just my line. I'm not the most like this person's too old. It started last year from a couple years ago with Bonix. But we are just jumping the shark now with the fucking, these guys are 25. There have been NFL players drafted at 20 and then signing second contracts at 24. Drake London is 24 right now. Like it's in, how old is Kyle Pitts? He's 21. No, no. Jason Tatum is still 19 years old. Kyle Pitts is 25. Kyle Pitts is 25. But this is his fifth year, sixth year. Yeah. It will be his fifth year. They picked up his fifth year option, I thought. Yes. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, it's a franchise tag. It's six seasons. It's 25. There are multiple players who will be 25 in September. So I want to, Nate Borkacher, who's the tight end. The Niners took some guy named Romelo Height, who I know was like a decent prospect and he's that. But just the fact his name is Height is ridiculous. I'm sorry. I can't take you seriously. It's ridiculous. Romelo Height. I'm such a madden name, Height. Jennings Dunker. H-E-I-G-A-H, fuck, D-H-T. H-E-I-G-H, yeah. Fuck, the red bulls are the hitting. We were looking up these guys' birthdays and we saw that, so the Raiders took a safety named Tradence Dukes and we're looking at birthdays and one of you just was like, so he was born on 9-11. Like literally, September 11, 2001. The 9-11. Yeah. The 9-11, yeah. Which. I think you should, if you're born on that specific day, you should legally be allowed to push it a day. I agree. That's such a different thing. Yeah, I think just for that day, you can push it. I agree. The people whose birthdays are 9-11, like that's not cool. Yeah, you get to be one day younger, congrats. I actually think that's a good take. You should just celebrate your birthday on the 10th or the 12th. Like don't, that's, come on. Yeah. Big deal, who cares? Give him an extra day. Honestly. Really. The other one, so the Rams took Keegan Trost in the third round. Who, I've never heard of this guy. DK, you said the word seventh year senior. Really? Yeah, that's gotta be up there with the most. Seventh year senior, he spent one year at Morgan State, four seasons, one, yeah, four seasons at Indiana State. That's five. That's how college experience is there. That's a super duper senior. I'm assuming he got his doctorate. He got one season at Wake Forest, and then he finishes college, I don't know, can you call it a career? He finishes college. Journey. Journey at Missouri. Odyssey, if you will. Dude, he went to four colleges. He's 25 years old. He went to four colleges over seven years. He was born before 9-11. Right. Yeah, so. How is this part, this is fucking crazy. This is the last year this is gonna happen though, right? I think. I fucking know, I'm so sick of this. COVID year granting people actual eligibility. These kids didn't do anything wrong, but these guys were growing. These guys were grown men taking college spots from high schoolers, which, and then they had to go other places, and they had to go to FCS, and then wait for these guys to leave so they could go back to D1. And it's kind of fucking crazy this was allowed. Like the whole bullshit that Diego Povett, and like this still happened, Journey at Chambliss, where they're like, hey, good news, Journey at Chambliss, the Ole Miss quarterback, who I love, went back to school, and they're like, oh good, like Juco doesn't count as a college year, so good news. If you had two years at a Juco, and you can go back for a sixth year, and it's like, that's crazy. I don't know, we don't have to get the state of college football, but I'm not gonna lie, I hate these guys. I hate them. And like, if it's, can't they Scott I like? Cause at least he's cool. A key message or a 25, right? A key message or a 25, a key message or a 25, but he also has two foot injuries, and I don't know, this profile of player, some of them might be really, I actually wouldn't be shocked if some of these guys are really good because they're, you know, full grown adult men. Is this a change in philosophy for teams where they're like, if I can get a guy on a cheap deal, and I think he's more ready to play right now because of his age, his experience, his physical development, like maybe these are worthy picks, even if a second contract he'll be 29 or 30, who cares? Because I feel more confident that a third round pick who's 25 can actually deliver for me right now. Yeah, I mean, there's multiple schools of thought on this. It's with Messador, as an example, I feel like he's ready to play right now. He will contribute right away. Right, and if you're a team that has the winning windows right now, which I think the chargers think they do, maybe it makes sense. And then I think, but the counter argument to that is, like, what if he's just already reached his peak? He's already developed, he's not gonna get any better at this point. Yeah, you're sacrificing upside for floor. Right, and you're sacrificing the long term thing because he'll be 30 years old once his first contract is over. There's this bill poor sales quote from back in the day of, we can only take what they're giving us, meaning that it is a tail is old this time for NFL scouts to complain about whatever new trends in college football is sending to the pros. And Bill Parcell's point was, well, it doesn't fucking matter, this is all we have to pick from. And this is just the, and everyone has to do it. And this is the latest trend that, yeah, even four years ago, taking a 25 year old was preposterous. Because again, like his second contract, he'll be 30. Like, I love Keontes Scott, the cornerback from Miami. His second contract, like, speed based cornerbacks are dust by 30. However, the truth is, no one knows how this is going to work out, and I wouldn't be shocked if an aggregate, again, the stat that sums up college football to mean a nutshell, is that the average age of Indiana starters, who again, they went 16 and 0 undefeated national champions. That's a great stat. Indiana's average age was 23 and 1 half years old for their starters. And Green Bay Packers average age was 25. That's wild. Like, Indiana won because they were a professional team. Miami, Keemassers 25, Rupert Baines like almost 23, Carson Becks 23, like these are grown men. That's kind of a cool money ball. Like, it's interesting. Take professional matured people. Yeah. So we'll see. It's very, I will be curious to see how these old people do. It's pushed you out from like Anthony Richardson, Kyle Pitts. These guys are 19, 20 years old. Like, I mean, we, they haven't for 15 years. And then it's like, actually, they're terrible. They barely play. It's like the NBA when they're like, we take all these like 18-year-old high schoolers, and they're just like, do I get to home for a Christmas? And it's like, no, you're playing on Christmas, buddy. And now it's like, oh, you know what? Forget going to college. We got people with advanced degrees. Our title went to college twice. All right. Anything else? I think that was mostly it. Yeah. I think so. I mean, it wasn't the most electric day too. And that's mostly just because of the players that were available. If you look at round two last year, man, it was so many. I mean, you had like Trayvon Henderson and Quinchon Jugkains and Luther Burton. And the landing spots for the, I mean, in particular for fantasy people was like way more exciting. This one is just like everyone, almost every landing. So I was like, ah, God, now he's going to be buried for three years or whatever. So yeah, I think last year certainly felt much more exciting on day two. But still some interesting storylines and still some stuff to get excited about. But yeah, kind of a weird draft overall. I want to do a couple emails, but we're going to just to remind you, we're going to have winners and losers from the draft. We're going to record that Sunday morning. That'll be either Sunday night or Monday morning. And we're also going to have, we're going to go over later in the week, like all 32 draft classes. We're going to go over rookies and fantasy landing spots. The name of the show, we'll go back to fantasy football show at some point later next week. Just a reminder, we, if you have discovered us during draft season, at this point, you've heard us do a lot of RFK mouth sounds and you probably have seen how weird we get. And I promise you, even if you don't play fantasy football, I suggest you try and stick with us and see what happens. Because I think you might enjoy the fantasy football season too. So with that said, I do want to read a couple emails before we get out of here. So I'll let you, one, just real quick, basically someone offered to let us try to name a community that they're building. And if someone emailed in, two things happened. One, we joked to a Clois box. Clois box lane exists in Anah, Texas. I assume this is where the, the Dallas ranch, I think it's where that was because he's home. What have the many line items in his Clois box? He owned the house that was in Dallas, like the show Dallas. So I think that one's named. But the other one, someone suggested one that stuck out to me, which is from Michael. And Bone. He said we should name it Glansburg Gardens. Ooh. Glansburg Gardens. Stephen Glansburg. I'm super bad. I think Glansburg Gardens, there's something there. That's nice. Yeah. So keep emailing us in names to this community. I also want to shout out, so we talked a lot about attending the draft. And because you see the zoom out and it's kind of like a litmus test and whether you'd be interested in going to Times Square in New York City where you're like, hell, yeah, that's awesome. Or like that my literal nightmare. And a lot of the pitches were basically it's a football carnival and it's pretty cool and it's fun. However, we also were like, there's no way there's 300,000 carnival for football. I don't know. But someone point, we were talking like there's no way there's 300,000 people there. Like that's more than Coachella. Like that just seems like a lie. How do they count? So we got an email from, I'm actually going to redact their name because I think they should have. But they're going to get in trouble. Well, they didn't say that, but I'm doing it for them. It's reputational suicide to know that they went to the draft. We cannot. Oh, I thought you emailed us. So they emailed breakfast was orange sparkling Celsius. Wow, that's not what it was. Orange sparkling Celsius, fiber gummies and a Vicodin. Sucks getting old. Any hoodles. Whoa, that's a quote. Fiber gummies. OK, that is like that. That's like a Jordan Belfort breakfast. Orange sparkling cell cells is fiber gummies and a Vicodin. He's getting fired up with the Vicodin. The Vicodin smells them out. And what was in the middle of a fiber gummy? Yeah, fiber is important. So redacted here, right? So I've been in the hospitality industry for over 30 plus years. I've been a part of many large scale events. Like he listed time, but he's trust me, like a ton of big sports related giant events bonafides, bonafides. And it's we should have known this. They use cell phone towers to calculate the data. Oh, it's like kind of the how many how to tell what the traffic traffic. Yes, it's like the end of the dark night. Oh, they're like, what, you know, and Christopher Martin, Freeman's like, this powers to too much for the editor. And then it became the basis of the digital economy. Don't love that. So yeah, the short answer is they use cell phone towers, these Bluetooth technology. They let you get into the if they download an app, you can get in everything with the QR code. It's way easier to get through. What they do. And then they track the app. They fucking guess they counted. And no one. There's a guy like there's a guy just boom, boom, boom. I don't think that's it. So yeah, prove it. What? Because what is it? The what's the largest concert of all time? Isn't it Rod Stewart? They claim it was. Yes, it's Rod Stewart. Is it like Rio? Wasn't it like a million people in Rio or something? There were. Yes. So there are many. Rod. Yes. There are many moments I've been wrong on the show. The most wrong I've ever been was how famous was Rod Stewart, really. And the answer was he arguably had the biggest gathering of human people ever. Three point five to four point two million people in Rio de Janeiro in 1994. How do they know that? So but to be clear, that they're counting like a mile, mile strip of beach. Almost the population of Norway. That's they're counting miles. The entire country. Why do you know the population of Norway? I don't know. I looked it up recently because I why? Because it was something to do with the Olympics. I can't remember. Oh, because the Norway always wins. They fucking did insanely well. And they have Norway has five point six million people. Man, that's yeah. So Rod Stewart got two thirds of the way to Norway. Yeah, but I thought that was pretty depressing. There was a Norway there. So it's funny, it appears to be. He had a Norway. Thanks, Mr. Norway. Five of the top ten largest concert ever have taken place at the same beach in Rio. At that point, that's just New Year's Eve. You get to play. Yeah, that's like that's like we turned on the Super Bowl for Bad Buddy. Like no, it's kind of the other way around. It's not always New Year's. February and May and May. Only two of them have two out of the five are New Year's Eve. The rest are just May and who are the other artists? Anyone we know? Lady Gaga, May 3rd, 2025 is. Wow. She gets to play at this beach. Two point five million. Maybe I don't know. That's that's crazy. So how big is the stretch? We're talking like Madonna and Madonna in 2024, 1.6. I don't know about this. You said 2026. What did you just say? No, what? 1.6 at 1.6 and 2024. Like what? She's still rolling. She was just at Coachella. I think. Oh, I think Madonna is. I think Madonna is a is a top tier, like most famous person still alive. Our generation is. You said I mean, I know. Yeah, it's a great name. It is a sad car. It's like Scar Joe. That's right. Yeah, no, it is. OK, that's right. I wish my name had something like that, but it unfortunately doesn't. You guys want one more stupid. Craio, Craio, Craio, it's actually not bad. Craio, I kind of like Craio. Can I read you one more stupid email? Yeah, you guys are making fun of my hiccups. And I think it's so funny that everyone has a stupid little fucking hippo. I don't believe in any of them. I think they're all fake. There's no way. Justin, there's no way. No way. That hiccups are hiccups. You just got to wait. You have to wait. You got to wait. So Justin wrote, everyone has a little stupid thing. Justin's wrote was fill a glass with about four ounces of six ounces of water, put a paper towel over the top, chug as much as you can. The glass drinking through the paper towel. Don't work. And I was like, but they're all like this. They're meant to get you to spill on your drink. Water upside down. Wasn't that one? I don't know which of these are just supposed to distract you and hoping the distraction works and which are just stupid shit you told a friend and then we're like, no, it's real. I genuinely don't think there is a solution. I have one that actually works. Can you email us if you really know? It does. I mean, it works for me. OK, what is it? It's eat a spoonful of sugar. Oh, wait. So this one's spoonful of peanut butter. I don't know. That's sure. Maybe that works. Spoonful of sugar. Yeah, granulated sugar. Do you know why that works? Makes the medicine go down. It's something to do with the texture, I don't know. You could do salt, but that would be fucking disgusting. Yeah. So that, or sand, I guess. Say cinnamon challenge. Cinnamon. Cinnamon challenge. Now you're coughing. Yeah, that would make you go crazy. You might die. The hiccups will stop. You stop breathing and therefore your hiccups stop. But yeah, the sugar thing works for me every single time. I'm glad that I have grown. I've outgrown the era of my life when my friends would be like, should we do a cinnamon challenge tonight? Should we do something terrible? Should we hit each other in the nuts? Yeah. Should we hit each other in the nose and not on? Dude, by the way, yeah, we're in contact with the Seahawks guy who's going to get kicked in the nuts. But I still. We figure out, does he have to fly somewhere to go do this? I think they're going to have to do it at their fantasy draft. No. I think it's going to be their fantasy draft. No, I think it's going to be their fantasy. Well, we'll see. I'm in contact with them. I got to tell you, though, I still think yes. If you didn't see the last episode, I think the end of it where we're talking about the guy getting hit in the taint. He's the happiest I've been at the show till today with RFK. I've ever been until we talked about RFK. Dude, I think it's my favorite sentence we've ever been emailed. Is that, my older cousin's brother heard a rumor that if you got punched in the taint, you'd shake yourself. Heard a rumor. Heard a rumor. Heard a rumor. Heard a rumor. You heard this rumor going around? It's like the Marilyn Manson rumor that we all heard. Did you hear this rumor? It's so good. What was the scientific name? Paraneum? Paraneum. Sure. Hit the paraneum. Punched in the paraneum. Punched. Parastalsis. My god. If you get punched in the paraneum, you'll shit yourself. Craig, are you looking it up? No. Oh, yeah. I googled Paraneum. What are you finding out? I was wondering the definition. Why did you do it? The small diamond-shaped region located between the thighs. Diamond. Diamond-shaped. I'm not fine. I'm not fine. Mine's on cut jam. Yeah. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, Cam. Thank you. I'll forget everybody here. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, everyone. M-Bone over there. Thank you, everybody. Man, thank you, everyone, who made it to uncut jam in this one. This show's uncut jam. How long did we go? I had it too long. It was too long. God bless whoever tried to fix RFK's voice. He did your best. Thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you, Fall Out Boy. How come? I just thought of them. Nice. Oh, all right. Cool, cool, cool, cool. I feel like they have a couple songs that are played on sports broadcasts. What's their big, like, NBA's cutting to commercials for their Play a Fall Out Boy song? Thanks to the memories. Oh, yeah, thanks to the memories. And Sugar We're Going Out's Winging. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They were real big, I think, in the early 2000s. Yeah, I'm familiar with them. What's this? What's this? Madonna, she was big in the 80s. What was it like? They know they are. I wasn't trying to wow you in facts. Making conversation. They're right now at Chili Peppers. They were big band in the 2000s. Craig, hold on. I got to tell you something. Fall Out Boy. Yeah, yeah. They were big for a while there in the early 2000s. Oh, I think Centuries was played a lot, too. Yeah. I can't believe that video. We have a movie Jurassic Park. Movie made in the 90s. Where were you going with that, sorry? No, I wasn't going anywhere. I was stalling. I was like, what for what? What can I find that's interesting? I was stalling. Waiting for I was to say thank you. Should I put the video again? I'm terrified of dead air, Craig. Hold on. I'm going to play it again. Oh, no. Did I fucking mute it like a boomer? Come on. You pushed the button. Among the many that you describe in your testimony. In that context, in your testimony, you identified the person as a bad person. His body is working so hard. There's a way. This is incongruous. This is incongruous. Portraying and preventing chronic disease. You also emphasized that it's an ex-conic disease. And then you're to be put to corporate nutrition. This guy's the fucking health guy. Securing commitments for more than 50 medical schools to provide at least 40 hours of nutrition. I don't think I've ever seen anyone take sound less healthy than him. That's honestly probably in the world. Yeah, ever. There was trouble in our little nutrition taught in medical school. And now we're encouraging that to be a full year. I can't hear it anymore. To build on his progress by securing additional commitments from medical schools. That's enough. We've had enough. So Craig, anyway, fall out, boy. And just cut stand. He's wearing the apnea machine. He's awake. Staring at you like fucking. God, what's the, the, it was originally the Mel Gibson movie from the apocalypse or whatever. Fucking where they all drive around in trucks. What's the fucking movie called? Mad Max. There's a little Mad Max. You know the Mad Max one where they all have like, Max. It's honestly RFK and men bane. The worst podcast ever. Who can we find to fucking produce this podcast? Welcome to the new podcast. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Produce is just like this. I fucking hate my job. I have the worst fucking attorneys. Oh, shit. Goodbye, everyone. No. No. What? Yeah. Must be 21 plus and present in select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas star casino or 18 plus and present in DC, Kentucky or Wyoming. Gambling problem. 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