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Okay, then bills mafia, Jeremy White, Joe, Marino and the big O Jerry Ostrowski. We've got a special edition of bill squad today. We're doing our first ever mock draft. We're going to take five rounds of this draft. We've got a simulator we're going to run. If you're listening in the podcast, you won't miss a thing. You'll get all the picks. We're going to go through it. We're going to break down the board as it goes. Talk trade up opportunities, trade down opportunities and go all the way to the bills first. Five rounds of this draft to try to address needs and see how this thing goes. And along the way, if you are watching us on the stream, you'll see it on the screen. How it's going to play out. We'll pause every couple of picks. We'll get through it and we'll find out ultimately who the bills will get in this version of the contract. We're going to get to the picks. We haven't settled this yet. So let's just do it right here. Organically. Is it just majority rules at 26? Right? If it's this defensive end versus this linebacker, we're just going to talk about it and come to a consensus decision. Right guys? I think that's got to be the goal. Right? That's what makes us fun is we all have to be on board enough to agree on the picks. I like that. Just understand though, folks, if we come out of this thing with five wide receivers, Jeremy is the one that's pushing the button, not us. Likewise, if we come out with five offensive linemen, I think we know who's guilty. If we come out with five defensive linemen, well, that's probably going to be me. Well, it's a good opportunity to kind of imagine what the bill's room is like, right? And we'll, we can each have our own tier of like, I'd prefer this player versus I'm standing on the table for our Mason Thomas, right? Jerry, you got, you ready to stand on the table for your sooners out there? Like a couple of different players you like. There's a couple I like and they're not necessarily sooners. I mean, there's, there's a couple of guys, especially an edge. I've got an edge that I've grown fond of that hopefully is there. We'll pick a little bit later. I got a line. I got some linebackers. I've been studying linebackers lately. So I'm, I'm feeling like there's a few of those that could come through that I'll, I'll be pounding the table for. One thing about this later we've got, you can, you can adjust different settings on it and I'll put it up on our screen here. You can just different settings like positional premium and the team needs and the randomness meter all the way up and how often there are trades and you know, a, a site like this will pepper you with trades when you're on the clock. And this site that we're using today is a eight is the sports. And what it offers, it's kind of cool. I think guys is you'll have the opportunity to kind of look at the trade, the trade value tree and how many points are coming back in the deal. And let's say the bills are at 26 and the 36th pick comes calling or the 43rd pick comes calling. You know, there's going to be windows, how comfortable you feel like dropping down and you know, it's, it's all about, do they need more picks? Do they want to slide a little bit? Are there five names on the board? You know, the usual stuff you get to with mock drafts and we'll, we'll get through it. So without further ado, shall we, shall we get started? No, no real big drumroll, nothing like that. But five rounds to get us to the 26th pick, the 91st pick and on and on from there. So to the board we go. The Vegas, Las Vegas Raiders of course are first on the clock. We'll go maybe five picks at a time. These sites are fun because sometimes they give you some random little pieces that'll be surprises. In this case, Arvel Reese makes it to five. It's Mendoza that goes first overall. The Jets go with an offensive lineman second overall. Have you seen that very much at all guys? This, this big here? No, no. Yeah. Okay. So that would be, that'd be a major surprise with them really the last two years they took offensive tackles in the first round and the Armand Membu from, from Missouri and then the left tackle fashion from, from Penn State. So you could probably flip, flip picks two and three to get a more realistic look. Right. I do like Maui Noah. I think Maui Noah is a heck of a player, but the one thing about him going at number two is A, he's a right tackle and B, there's also a lot of talk that's going to say he's bumping inside. So we want to take a guidance, eventually a guard at number two. I agree with that. Right. I think he's just in this spot of kind of shuffle a few. This guy's going early. Maybe he doesn't go to, maybe he goes like four or five. Do you know that the prospect that I've become completely infatuated with now that I finally got to their tape is sunny styles from Ohio State. Have you guys seen this guy play football? Yeah. I mean, he's, he's unbelievable. And the one thing I didn't know about him is that he just switched to linebacker in 2024. Yeah. This guy might be the best player in the class. I mean, I'm watching Ohio State and I'm like, is he just make every tackle? Is that, is that what happens? Is he, and the answer is kind of yes. And then he has like no limitations in terms of coverage. He's massive. This is, this is as good of a linebacker as we've seen in a long time that I will not blink if he winds up being a top five selection as an off ball linebacker. If I'm the Jets, I'll tell you what, he's going to be in serious consideration for number two. He's off the charge on this testing of four, four, six. I think he was the fastest linebacker at the combine vertical to over 43 inches. Broad jumped over 11. I mean, this is a freak. Now he's got a brother that plays as well. And the interesting thing is their dad who used to play is their, their train. That's our guy. Like he did a lot of this, you know, train them a lot when coached them up when they're young. So yeah, huge prospect. So our top five as it goes right now, it's for man, Fernando Mendoza, as everyone would really expect it to go. Number one, I know the offensive tackle to Ruben Bain, David Bailey, Arvel Reese, you know, the edges, Bain Bailey, you see those guys at the top a lot. Arvel Reese also right around this spot and the Browns on the clock. It'll go Browns, commanders, saints, chiefs, Bengals and the, you know, I think we're bills fans. This might be the most attention we have to pay to the top 10 in quite some while in terms of teams that we talk about a lot. I know the chiefs had a terrible year and Mahomes is coming off of a ACL injury, but we're going to care who they get, especially because they have two first round picks and the Bengals, like if they ever got their defense right, things might get interesting. So let's, let's cycle through the next five picks here and find out what happens. We're not trading up, right? We're not talking about trading up to sixth overall to Cleveland where they are. And Carnell Tate goes off the board, Jordan Tyson, Sonny Styles, Spencer Fano and Jeremiah Love. So we're at the top 10, two receivers off the board and Tate and then Tyson, seven th overall, the Washington, which is as high as I've seen him anywhere. Sonny Styles to the saints, the chiefs go off offensive line and Jeremiah Love to the Cincinnati Bengals. Could you share the screen please, Jeremy? I'm sorry about that. Yes. Yes. I can do that. Yeah. So there we go. So Sonny Styles, eighth, Spencer Fano and Jeremiah Love to Miami on the clock. If we're looking at players that are falling, I've got to highlight it on the right side of the screen, wide receiver edge defensive tackle linebacker. If you want to can put safety in that mix and interior offensive line. I feel like the positions we can almost eliminate for the Bills quarterback, running back, tight end tackle, at least in the early rounds. And that might be it. I'll even include cornerback in there as well while we do this. I have a question for Joe. How, how talking to some of the guys, I know you do the draft shows and everything. How much run is this thing getting of Spencer Fano and the extremely short arm length or lack of length and how that's going to affect his draft position as well as the position he ultimately ends up in in the NFL? It's he's a fascinating player that I don't think anyone is overly comfortable projecting what's going to happen there. I think most people would say it's a really good prospect, but obviously the interior transition that would be coming with a lot of that being center. There's so much projection involved there that it just makes it a little bit uncomfortable when you're talking about a premium investment. And so I think everybody likes the player. It's just a matter of what, when's the right spot in terms of there being a transition and feeling like you're going to get the correct return on that. And so I think that's what makes it tricky with him. I've done some simulations where he was available for the Bills at the end of the first round. I was like, I guess I got to do this. Right. I got to get him. So it's going to be fascinating to see that one play out because the part that's weird about him is at six, five and a half and three, three, three, eleven, he almost looks light. He almost looks lean to where he's almost looks like a beefed up tight end running around. It doesn't have the length. I mean, it is an interesting prospect and it's, and it's interesting to figure out where he will end up because I haven't seen nothing like him in quite a while. And centers are kind of getting bigger when you think about Joe Titman and Frank Ragnau and Mitch Morse and like they're taller than they ever were. Right. You used to see some stubby centers and now you got tackles that are playing center. Right. Exactly. Get to a few more picks here up, up on the clock. Miami, Dallas, the Rams, Baltimore and Tampa to round out the next group of five. The Rams will be interesting to me what they're going for because they're much, very much in like a go for it kind of mode. And this is the pick they get from the Falcons in that trade for James Pierce last year. And then of course, Baltimore, kind of like the chiefs here. Picking a little higher than most of the time when we're talking about these teams. So Miami goes corner man sort of lane. Caleb Downs makes it all the way to number 12 and 13. The offensive lineman. I know you love Joe is on the interior of the offensive line now for the Los Angeles Rams. Peter Woods defensive tackle for Baltimore. Mackay lemon to the box. They say goodbye to Mike Evans and stay flush at wide receiver with Mackay lemon to the Tampa Bay box. And then one more tick down Jermaine McCoy corner Tennessee 16th overall. Hate to see Miami get the number one corner in the draft, but I guess that's just where they're going to be able to be in that spot at 11 where inevitably they're going to get a big time corner Caleb Downs, maybe Vega Ioni from Penn State. You know, they're going to be in a position there to get a pretty big time talent, in my opinion. So we got to come to terms with that happening. Vega Ioni is, is phenomenal. Great player. Woods is kind of a, he's an interesting prospect, a little up and down. I think maybe didn't play quite to his pedigree at Clemson, but has all the tools. Be interested to see how he, how he progresses in the league for sure. 10 picks away from the bills. If you're looking at the board right now, the talent of the board, Keldrick Falk, if you want an edge rusher, Casey Concepcion, the safety is there. Dylan Thyneman. If you want to defensive tackle, I know Kayton McDonald's, the guy we've talked about, safety, Emmanuel McNeil, Warren, CJ Allen, like the board is, I think we can all kind of expect this. And this is the hardest part to forecast if you're us trying to guess what the bills would do. Is it possible that they would have someone like Kayton McDonald as the 17th best player in the draft and think like we could go there and get this player. And then there's a significant teardrop. Like this kind of guys gets to where a team has, you know, 13 first round grades, maybe one is left. And that's a guy that they think we should go get. But at this point, I don't know, it'd be really tough imagining them going up 10 spots in the draft to get anybody when we're looking at the board, as it looks like this. And I think this is where the reality of, of Casey Concepcion and like where the league is going to have him. I think this is pretty realistic where they, Jordan Tyson going in the top 10 didn't help at all. But there are some, some landmines along the way here with Carolina 19, the Minnesot is 23 Minnesota, the Browns at 24 where Pittsburgh is going to talk receiver. Yeah, it's probably going to be a dream. Yeah. I mean, Philadelphia, if they're going to trade AJ Brown, are they talking about a receiver in the first round? It's uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable for sure. Right. So if you're sitting there hoping for him right now, it's, it might be a bit tough, but to the next few picks and we'll get a few more in here before we get to maybe the bills getting closer to move up for a smaller size. Like what if it's two, three spots? You know, we'll see the lions, next five picks here, lions Monroe, Freeling, offensive tackle, I have your corner, Celtic, Falk edge, Kenyon, Zedik to the Cowboys and then Casey Concepcion to the Steelers at 21 overall. That's the part portion of the night where if the draft is falling this way, I am doubly sad in part that Casey Concepcion is off the board. And other part of it would be that Pittsburgh gets him because Pittsburgh is where, well, I don't know that receivers go to die there. They've had some pretty great receivers over the years, but I just don't know about Aaron Rogers and what their plan might be. And I'd be sad that a player that I like is going to end up in Pittsburgh. I wouldn't like that one bit. Let me ask you this question, Jeremy. Is Jordan Tyson kind of the guy that if he goes earlier, maybe is the indicator that this run on wide receivers is going to happen? I mean, Tyson's kind of thought to be maybe in that mid 20 range where he went in this draft is kind of high. If he goes that high, does that make people panic and start the wide receiver run? Maybe. I wonder about a run. I also wonder there are going to be a lot of different evaluations on Denzel Boston and Omar Cooper. Like they're both very interesting. Cooper is a guy that played so much in the slot, but the year before did play a lot more on the outside. Some, some people think Denzel Boston is Mike Evans. And if he's, you know, if he's a guy that can produce, then, you know, maybe he slips in here somewhere too. So I always like to think about one positional player when you're picking his as late as 26, somebody that you think is past you is going to go earlier and maybe reset how things maybe fall. I think that could be Omar Cooper. I think that could be Denzel Boston that go before the bills pick. I kind of look at it as if this thing falls, well, I think it's going to go. We're going to have multiple options and have our hands tied. Like we're going to kind of have to make a tough decision because I think we're going to have a lot of different options at 26. If we stick in pick. Well, I think with Concepcion coming off the board, it 100% takes away my appetite for trading up. Yes. So I think we could probably agree there that there wouldn't be a player at this point that we should be in that mindset of moving up. Right. For the sake of this, we can have a little experiment here. This, the site agency sports allows you to go back a pick. And if we want to try to trade up, do you want to see what it might cost? Sure. Trade value chart, like a trade value chart with Pittsburgh to move up to that spot to 21. Granted, this is the player that, you know, they want also, you have to make up about 112 points on the trade tree. And, you know, without, it's not a whole heck of a lot. It might be a fourth next year or a fifth next year. But again, like, I think the toughest part of this is that Pittsburgh is the one that takes him. And if they do that, then, well, you know, ultimately, you're not going to talk him out of it. Right. Yeah, they're not. And of course, you don't know that when you're going to make a trade, but. Right. Right. So the next few picks, and then we'll get a better idea of where we are for the bills, offensive tackle off the board for the Chargers, Caleb Lamu, Emmanuel McNear Warren of the Steelers, Dylan Thiteman to the Browns at 24. These are two safeties back to back to safety run begins. The Bears go. Kate and McDonald right in front of the girls. So these last six picks have been, this is how it goes though, right? Trade. Trade. We know. These are the names we know because this is where they're supposed to go. So, you know, like this is where it ultimately falls out. So the best on the board, CJ Allen, Caleb Banks, Denzel Boston, Omar Cooper at positions of need. You guys are like in trades. Chase, Bassantist, Guard, Texas. Well, I mean, if we're being honest, oh, you said Caleb Banks. When you said Caleb Banks in my mind, I heard Caleb downs. Right. Caleb Banks. Sorry. So. I mean, the name that pops for me right now is a keen message or same as as an edge rusher. I mean, this, the way that this fell, they didn't get receivers or McDonald's or McDonald's, but I think the edge rushers that are available are, it's a pretty robust group. I mean, even TJ Parker, so both the speedy guys and how in Thomas are on the board, Akeem Mestador and TJ Parker. I would be surprised if they were all there, but I think that puts the bills in a good spot. If that's what they want to do or leverage that to move back. I think that's intriguing. Well, I like that's a door quite a bit. And I think a big part of my liking him is I know that people don't like that. He's 25 in this case of what we kind of need right away. I'd like these a little bit mature and can come in and play a little bit earlier, get after it, understands things. And then the other part about it, Jason Taylor, he is well coached, well coached. And I think he would be an immediate impact player if that's the way we decide to go. Akeem Mestador defensive end edge rusher for the bills rather. If they were to make this pick, would you guys be scared off that he's about to be 25? That's what I was just saying. I don't think I would be in this case. You would not be scared? No, not in this case. Cause you're, I mean, if it works out great, you know, you get a great player, but his first contract is going to be pushing the end of when guys are available. So it would be part of the case against him. Well, when you're paying a quarterback like Josh Allen, maybe there's some advantages to not having to resign your first round pick in six years. You know, I love you Joe, Marina. That was good. I did that for you. I did that. Has it been that long since they resigned to first round pick? No, I'm just saying, and that would be when you would do it. Right. If you were to draft Nesador, you'd have the fifth year option. So six years from now, you'd be talking about an extension at age 30. Gotcha. Right. First rounder. Russo got paid, of course. Like I'm not thinking like, did they not? Anyway, all right, let's get a break in. When we get back, we'll make the call. Trade down. Akeem Mestador. There are other ideas here. There's Gash's Howl, a couple of receivers on the board. Omar Cooper, who I think the Bills will ultimately love. So we'll get to the Bills pick. Stick and pick. Trade down. Find out when we return here on the Bills Squad show. This episode of Bills Squad brought to you by Robin Hood. Yes, with Robin Hood, you can jump in the game in a different way. What if sports were traded like markets? Now you can put your sports IQ to work in real time with Robin Hood prediction markets. 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Do you guys feel strongly enough about Mesa Door to say no thanks to trading down? Just get your edge rusher for this guy that is older. Some injury concerns, but he has the production for it. So if you're both saying Mesa Door, that's the call. Well, I'll say this about Mesa Door as well. And then I'll squash the idea a little bit too. What I also like about Mesa Door in comparison to Armace and Thomas and Cassius Howell is I get a run defense element here. This is not a player. That's going to be a liability on rundowns, which matters to me. So if we were to stick and pick and it was an edge rusher, that would be a big tiebreaker that would help me overlook his age factor, which I think we can ease, but I do think it is relevant. It's something that you're mindful of. You want to be 25 when you're talking about contract extension as opposed to before they played their first snap in the NFL. So given that, my appetite for moving back is pretty strong, especially with Ty Simpson still on the board. So like, I think one of our goals should be to provide a realistic look at how this could play out. And I think the group of edge rushers available plus Ty Simpson puts us in a position where a team moving up would have reason to do it. I think it was far as Mesendor goes. There's a lot of things that are really, really intriguing to me about the guy, especially the fact that he's from Ottawa, Canada. He's actually a Canadian. So he understands Buffalo a little bit, but you look at his, the way he rushes, he's rabid. I mean, he can rush in and out. One of the things they do with him in Miami was put him over a guard. Get a lot of athletic mismatches in on third down over a guard. I talked about Jason Taylor and the things, but the two, the two glaring things when you get Mesendor that you have to be comfortable with the historical data about length at that position, it's, it's not there. Okay. He's not a tall guy, 32 inch plus arms, not super long arms. He does have a power aspect, but that length of, you know, that's sort of length in the NFL. How does it translate? It hasn't translated well. And then the other thing is the age at 25. So there's actually an edge rusher that I really, really liked that. I think we could pick up in the third round, maybe the second round. If we grab a second round pick, if we have to go that early, I think we get him in the third. So I think trading back actually would be wise to get more picks and move back, save some money and then get some of these players where, you know, get them a little bit later. I think there's a lot of talent throughout the second, third and fourth round that we can take advantage of. As much as that might be true and you might want to trade back, what if I told you that on our current Mockdraft site, there are no offers? Hmm. Not an offer. A lot of times there are offers. And on this right now, I'll go ahead and click that tab that says trade offers. And it is crickets. Wow. So we, so we are sticking to trade. You can offer. We could try to offer a trade. You want to do, you want to trade with you and trade back with something that should Arizona, come up and get, and get, uh, since we could try to do that. So to get their 34th pick, um, it would take a little bit on their end. So maybe their seventh matches it perfectly. We could ask for a sixth to move up. We could go to 20, 27, which might be a decent idea. A fourth round or in 20, 27, how about that? We'll send that offer and see if it's accepted. And it is. So off we go. We're moving down to Arizona spot and we'll be at 34th on the clock. And here are the players we lost out on. They came up and did take tie Simpson, Kate and Proctor CJ Allen, Omar Cooper to the chiefs. No, me. I'm not going to be happy about any of this right now. It's just the way it goes. Uh, that's okay. It's okay. CJ Allen, Omar Cooper, TJ Parker, Cassius Howell to the Patriots, our Mason Thomas to, uh, to the jets. So in this trade down, you've added a fourth next year and two division opponents have picked up edge rushers. You're back on the clock. The good news is if you still want to keep Messador, he's the pick. He stands out to me. Um, I also really like Christian Miller, uh, out of Georgia as an interior type player that I think, um, gives you a guy that helps your skiing transition that helps Deon Walker get into some more favorable alignments. Um, so if we were scared of length and age with Messador, I could, I think I have a case for, for Christian Miller. Um, I'll go ahead and see, uh, I'll tell you who I'm thinking of for, for next round as far as edge goes. And, um, that would be, um, Malachi Williams from, um, you see Lawrence Malachi Lawrence. Excuse me. Malachi Lawrence. I think that's a guy that I really like because it gives you the bend, but it also gives you the length. I mean, he's got super long arms. He's a long player. You get some run play out of him, all those things. And he's, he'll develop. Um, I know he's not all the way there yet. He's a bit raw, but I've been kind of, that's a guy I've been looking at that I think, think would, would be available in the third round. If, if we don't get edge earlier on the clock, 34th overall here, we're doing our first mock draft here. We've traded down and added a fourth rounder next year. There are five trade offers coming in, but I'm almost inclined to say like, guys, we can only go down so many times. You got to pick some players here. Right. Like I'm going to want to get some players and at 34 overall, let me ask you, Joe, about Denzel Boston, like we're in the second round. He's been pegged to go, you know, maybe near the end of the first. If wide receiver is something that they still want to do, what's your, what's your look at Boston, what he offers them and whether or not it'd be a good fit. His detractors are calling him Keon Coleman, right? And then the people that want to make the case for Denzel Boston are saying over and over again, he's not Keon Coleman. He beats man coverage much, much better. He can get open. It's not the same profile, even though they are both big receivers that win with their size and can win with their body frame. Yeah, I think it's completely unfair to Denzel Boston to invoke the name Keon Coleman. If you want to say that you don't prefer receivers that aren't dynamic separators, that's fine. I can, I can listen to that. I don't think Denzel Boston is a great separator, but I do think that he's a significantly better prospect for the X receiver position than Keon Coleman ever was. And so if you feel like you want to free up DJ more a little bit more and you want that true traditional X, okay, I mean, you could talk me into Denzel Boston. I might rather just wait around and get a, a, a, a, a, a, a, Sirat Elijah Sirat out of who I think is comparable. But I, I don't think we have to do this to Denzel Boston. I don't think it's fair to him, although it wouldn't be my preferred style of receiver, to be honest. Right. Yeah, I agree with all that. So what's the pick? Can you put it back on the screen? Put it back on the screen. Oh, sorry. Sorry. My fault. Akim Esador is still there. Top of the, top of the board. Caleb Banks falling still. defensive tackle. Big, could, could he be for this, this defense? Akim Esador, Chris Bell, Chase Basantus. I know Jerry like him quite a bit. Zion Young, Kristen Miller is there, as you said. What do you like? I, I think it's harder. And, and, and, and Miller Joe, if I'm, if I'm correct, fills that, fills that nose roll that we need, right? 100%. But if you're, if you're. Team pass rush matters the most. I mean, Mestador stands out to me. Let's go. Pull the trigger. I'm in. I know they're gonna Christian Miller is also like 21 years old. So you get a much younger player. Maybe not as valuable, but. I think, but, but are there nose tackles later that we can draft? It'll help us, or do we get our nose now and get our edge later? You get, there are nose tackles later. Big Orange and Lee Hunter, Corleone. McClellan, McClellan out of Missouri. Yeah. But what's different about Miller is I think that his pass rush ceiling is significantly more than those guys. I can go with him or Mestador. It's, it's your call, Joe. You haven't leaned on this, Jerry. I'd have taken Chase Besantis. So I'm staying out of it. I would lean Mestador because it's just, I mean, think of all the guys that are out there right now waiting to sign somewhere and waiting for the draft to unfold. What would you rather be chasing the day after the draft is over? A defensive end or a big bodied guy that can plug the middle for a while. Like DJ reader, there's a couple of guys that are just kind of out there, right? And I can have them for not that expensive a deal. Like how much does DJ reader cost versus how much Joey Bose is going to cost me? And if I have Mestador, it frees up Rousseau to play more five tech. It should at least. All right. I think we go Mestador. We thought about him at 26. We trade back. We still get him. I think now here's another question I have. When we make the trade, do we ask for a 27 or could we have asked for another 26? Yeah, I thought that the terms of that trade were kind of off. Like that trade happened last year and the Giants gave up a three that year and a three the next year. So that would be my expectation for that trade. Okay. We can trade back up if you want. I mean, this is just this mock draft formula. It's not like we're actually going to spend or use these picks in a mock next year. So I'll trade away future stuff to get us back in if you really want. But the bills after this part, you know, they're not picking for about another 60 picks. So you've got your edge rusher. And I guess what you're looking for here now as the clock just kind of ticks and the names take off. Here's Denzel Boston to the Bengals, which, you know, might be a bit of overkill. Maybe Chris Bell goes off the board a few picks after the bills right there to the Giants at 37th overall. Edge rusher Zion Young to the Saints, the dolphins on the clock continuing to prick through here's Chris Brazel to the Jets. It might be paying attention to that. Kristen Miller to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. You know, as the names tick off the board here and I'll share the screen again. Sorry, gentlemen. I'm trying to get this, the both these screens run at the same time. You know, just kind of going through and seeing Colton Hood, the Angelo Pons to the Steelers. Jeremy Bernard is another name like, I don't know where he's going to go. Mel Chai Lawrence, Edge rusher. Jeremy Bernard is another one. I feel like the bills will love this guy in Alabama. A lot of the refer, they refer to him as like glue guy, Jeremy. He does it all. He seems like the right kind of bills, bills player bills, receiver that they would bring in in the third if he fell there or somewhere in the third and say like, he won't ask for too much right away. He'll do everything we want him to do. He'll come up through the ranks the right way. But he's gone early here in the second round. I saw him live in Norman when they played against the Sooners in the playoffs. I mean, the kid compete. So that's one thing I liked about that offensive Alabama, even the quarterback, Guy Simpson, the receivers, they get after, they compete. They played hard. We'll keep chugging along here. The bills are up in about 35 picks in the third round. Again, we took a key Mazzador defensive and edge rusher in the second round. This pick right here, 65. I think that should be the bills pick. Okay. Because of that trade down. Yes. Yeah. Go ahead and get into it. Go ahead and let's go ahead and get there. Sure. The first pick on the third round. Yeah. It ultimately even if you give up our first round pick next year, just get us that. Force us into this offer a trade. Arizona will pick for this one just for the sake of it. Third rounder and we'll send next year's first, just to make them send the as a formality. They rejected. They don't want to go down to 91. Well, they're not getting 91. They said no. Oh, it doesn't say the first though. It doesn't. You don't have the first on there. There we go. They're still rejecting. You don't want it first. I'm sorry. I'm clicking the wrong side. You can tell this is live. Sorry about this. They still rejected. They you're offering more than 65 is worth. They want to remove some assets. All right. There's quality control on these trades. They're still saying no. I'm believe I'm trying so hard Arizona to give you a lot. How's this still? No, they're not going to let us in. Let's just pretend it's our pick. How's that? Okay. Yeah, we need to pretend this is our pick. We'll just pretend it's our pick. The bills are here on the clock and it's Jake Gold. I know we've talked about him like as a linebacker. I mean, he's huge, right? Dude, I like, I like that pick. He's a monster, man. 64250. You pair him with the proper nose. You got to worry about the middle being weak anymore. That's for dang short. I'm a huge Jake Galday fan. He's one of the weirdest prospects I've ever evaluated because he literally played slot corner for them at 240, 250 pounds. So that gets me excited about the coverage. Are you serious? Yeah, dude, he's playing slot corner. I've never seen anything like it. He literally played slot corner for Cincinnati. Wow. This sounds like another Michael Hoyt scouting report. And Anthony Hill at Texas was also one of those players that I'm like, what is this role that you're playing? It's completely unique. But I, I mean, I think that's very attractive. Now you're, you're everything about playing downhill, Mike, and you know, taking on contact and processing against the run is completely unknown. But the coverage profile and the range is off the charts with Jake Galday. We'll keep plugging along. If, if, if it is the pick here, would it be Galday? Some of the receivers in this spot. Well, Hurst is there. Ted Hurst is there, who I think is very, very interesting for the bills. So is Antonio Williams, who I believe they met with, which I just, I don't see the fit there. No, he's a slot only. And he's, I mean, I just see nothing in the profile that is something the bills should want. Not that he couldn't be any good. If you didn't have Khalil Shakir, sure. But the slot only receiver has a lot of fading value in the league. Like they want you to move around and do lots of different things. And I just don't, I don't see Antonio Williams for the bills, even though they did meet with him. So, you know, there's some level of interest. Anyway, we'll get one of the linebackers were there. Linebackers that are still here right now on the board, Anthony Hill, Jake Galday. I'll, I'll tab it so we get just linebackers here. Also have on the board, Kyle Lewis, who had an incredible combine. Yeah. The knock on him is. He's a McDermott linebacker. He's, he's probably needs a switch to safety. He's 220 pounds. He's great in coverage plays in the overhang. He's a pursuit style will. I don't know anything about him playing downhill. Mike. So yeah, he built for sure. If McDermott was a coach, we'd be drafting Kyle Willis. I promise you that. Harold Perkins, Kishon Elliott, other linebackers to talk about here. We're good on these guys. Yeah. All right. We're going to resume and get ourselves up to the 94 picker, at least the neighborhood and see if there's anybody we'd like the bills to move up for. As we said about 16 picks away. There goes Antonio Williams. I'm saying good. That's a tackle. Grayson Halton guys. That's a name I've seen sometimes. What about as an idea for the bills? Good player. Not it's not excessively long, but he's, he's got a motor plays it well. I like, I like him. I like him a lot. Also, I've seen Jacob Rodriguez, linebacker and Julian Neil corner. Both go off the board in this spot. And I know with Julian Neil, they had him in for a top 30 visit. So Arkansas razor back. He's a good one. You know, some of these names just kind of come across as familiar. And we're going to get more of these names in the next couple of weeks, because now the owners meetings being over, you know, these teams are kind of hunkering down. Zachariah Branch off the board at receiver to the Falcons. Bill's coming up in about 10 picks. And, you know, third round here, Skyler Bell is in striking distance. If you want to go receiver, Brennan Thompson, Bryce Lance, one of the older receivers, North Dakota State, you know, if it presents this way, there's defensive ends, there's edges, but I would like to think that the receiver is going to come here somewhere. Yeah. And you mentioned Bryce Lance. Yes. You want to talk about verticality. This guy's off the charts with what he's been able to do over the last two seasons on deep, on deep targets. So that would not get picked. Grab him now. Yeah. That's going to be an easy, gotta do it. Bill's on the clock. Ninety first overall. You want Bryce Lance? Yes. Yeah. Let me give you some numbers on Bryce Lance. So on targets, 20 yards or more down the field in 2025, 16 catches on 21 targets. That's unreal efficiency. 641 yards, three touchdowns over 40 yards per catch in incontested situations. Five of six building on a 2024 campaign where he was 12 receptions on 22 targets, 481 yards, six touchdowns over 40 yards per catch and five of 10 when targeted. This guy's got an average depth of target of 14.1 on 170 targets for his career with a drop rate of 3.8%. Now I know that it's going to be a different ballgame getting deep in the NFL compared to the FCS level, but I think that skill set in a role where you can kind of grow into it and immediately provide that field stretching ability is absolutely tantalizing. I'd love him at 91. Yeah. I've seen him quite a bit. Saw him two years in a row. He's got great ability down the field. And like you said, Joe, a lot of it is maybe some athletic stuff does really do some good things on the sidelines. Being able to catch the ball, keep his feet in, all of that incredibly athletic. And you say FCS, North Dakota State's an FBS team now, Joe. They are in the WAC. Are they? Are you serious? Yes. I'm 100% serious. They begin playing FBS football next season. They have worked their way in, kind of forced their way in. They'll be in the WAC conference. So they are no longer in the Missouri Valley. And I can tell you this, there's a lot of teams in Missouri Valley. One of those being you and I, they're not heartbroken about it. Oh, I bet not. Yeah. Not at all. The FCS national championship invitation to face North Dakota State is different now, right? So good. Yeah, well, they lost last year in the first round to Illinois State who actually made it to the finals. But yeah, they're now FBS. With the 91st pick, we'll have it after the break. Right on the other side, we'll get our votes in. We'll get that third round pick on to the fourth and the fifth as well. It's our first mock draft here on the Bill Squad Show. Back here on the Bill Squad, Jeremy White, Joe Marino, and the big O, Jerry Ostrowski. We're here in the third round. The bills are on the clock with the 91st overall pick. We can tell you the board once again, Bryce Lance, Brennan Thompson, Skylar Bell, your receiver options at defensive line. You've got Darrell Jackson, Jr., at defensive tackle, a couple edge ideas, a couple linebacker ideas as well. But the fellas here are feeling it. They're feeling field structure. I need to remind you. Yeah? Brennan Bean is 4 for 4 on FCS picks. He's about ready to go 5 for 5 if he makes this one. Bryce Lance? I think so. Just Sean Barham is on the board, which makes you think. But yeah, I know. I know. But we got an edge already. I know. I know. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. He makes you think. Yeah. Barham, man. That's one of those utility knife players. You get the little bit of inside linebacker, a little bit of edge guy. That's what we put. If we, in theory, picked Jake Galday at 65, I think that's something to be mindful of. Yep. I like the Almond Joy or Mounds. I mean, you know. Almond Joy. Almond Joy. Right here. I've got enough support here for Bryce Lance. I'm going to click it. I'm going to go ahead and pick that receiver in the third round. Elite explosion numbers. The bills go Bryce Lance in the third round. And off we go. To the next pick, which the bills will be 126. So an edge rusher added and a wide receiver added. And at this point, you know, we're hoping somebody falls, right? You're hoping, you mentioned Jay Sean Barham out of Michigan. Maybe he makes it all the way to the fourth round. Like you never know. Teams have all these specific needs. And Karen Crawford is another one that I hear quite a bit about, Joe. I saw Christopher Passos break down. Him likes him a bit. You know, a lot of people are like, you know, I'm not going to be able to get him. You know, a rusher that's big, explosive, and I mean, that could be a mid round kind of guy. I'm not sure if you like him or not, or what you think of him. I haven't seen him. But as this next pick comes around, I'm thinking about interior defensive line, maybe corner. But I think this could be a good opportunity here to get that trench piece. Hand of the dirt trench piece. Yeah. Barham goes at 107. A couple of picks before the bills. That's 19 picks before the bills. 107 to Cleveland. They could just be surprised to see him last that long. I just, I don't see it either. Yeah. Bill's coming up here at 126. We are at 118. And oh, look at this. Justin Jefferson's available. I'll take that. Yeah. Probably not the same one. Probably not the same one. There's a point to be made. Like as we go through this first mock draft guys, Kevin Coleman, Jacoby Lane are on the board. Sometimes in this process, you might, as you're going through your mocks, and there's the bills run their mocks. I wonder if they go back and say like, you know, on nine out of 10 that we did, this guy lasted longer than we thought. And, you know, how that could affect your needs in round one versus round three. Like, you know, you could probably tweak it as a result of that or maybe see it play it a little differently. I thought about this last night now with, with the inception of chat, GPT and AI, just how many clubs use basically their mock drafts or run by the AI bots, like going off of trends for years and personnel trends and team trends and GM trends and how realistic can you get these, these kind of pre draft mocks down within the clubs with all AI and everything. I mean, I imagine it's nuts. I think I got a trade up for you here guys. I mean, maybe we should just take our chances. He's not going to get taken. But there's a name on this board that the bill, I think the bills worked out. And I don't, I don't know enough about them, Joe, but you can tell me, and that's Landon Robinson, defensive tackle out of Navy, right? Did they work him out to bring him in? They're bringing them in for a visit. Jerry, have you watched his film yet? I've seen a little bit of him live playing Tulsa. He's, he's a motor guy, man. He gets it for sure. I'm going to be more interested in a bigger body. Yeah. He's not, he's not a dudes at Navy aren't big body guys. They're dudes that could fit in airplanes. Yeah. How about some of the ones that are planes? Yeah. You want Caleb proctor six, three, two, 80? No, no, no. He's a good brush player. He has no anchor against the run. No, he's an, he's an FCS guy that kind of led the FCS and sacks. I think this year was close to it. How about six, five, three, 13? I mean, like it, it, uh, have you missed the boat here? If you're looking for a very big guy, pop that, pop that back on the screen. Pop that screen up. Let's take a look. Oh, Demond. Sorry. I'm bringing, I keep doing this. I'm on the screen with the actual draft. I'm sorry. Just that defensive tackle, they'll do that for you. Cause if you're looking for somebody there, um, here's the full list of names, Aime Durant, Caleb proctor, um, Xavion Harris, Ray Sean, Benny, Chris McClellan. McClellan's a big body. Xavion Harris is a big body. Xavion Harris, the one that showed up at the combine and lost like a human and then gained them back after he went home. Listen, listen, there, there are, is that who I'm thinking of? There are absolutely red flags with Xavion Harris. Yeah. He is dead. Since he's saying that this is, listen, listen, he's 683 30, 34 and five eights on the arm length. He, he's the, he's a planet earth theory guy where there's just not a lot of humans like him that can move like him. Yeah. At versatility. He's played five tech. He's played nose, six block kicks during his career. The challenge is a 2023 DUI 2024 arrest as well for domestic violence and obstructing arrest. So there's, there's some, some, some problems here for sure. But there's obviously a physical. The C characterizes an edgy guy that we bring. I don't know. You know, I'm not sure. I'm not sure how that goes, but. Well, let me ask you, like if you're looking at the board here in the fourth round and talking yourself too much into it, Jerry, should we hand things over and start and jump to that matter? Talking about interior offensive line, like this could be, you don't have anybody on the interior offensive line signed past this year, right? With Austin Corbett and Alec Anderson and Osiris Torrance expiring contracts. So if you want an interior offensive lineman here, Parker Brailsford, Alabama, Logan Taylor, back up. So we can see right now for you, Logan Taylor, Boston college, here are all your offensive linemen on the inside, DJ Campbell, Pat Cougan, Fernando, Carmona. If there's a name here you like, then the bills could, you know, start to try and grow organically. Is that it's 146 to very top. Yeah. It's Parker Brailsford. Okay. Logan Taylor is okay. Ahmad Reed and Adams. I do not like it all. Fernando Carmona's got some issues off field. Campbell was okay. Cougan's the guy that I, you know, we've seen him play a lot of center lately, but I know he played, I thought he played guard at Notre Dame. He did. Oh, he would be a swing guy and a guy that I kind of like as far as, you know, that kind of dude, as far as a straight guard goes on this list anyway. I like Beau Stevens. I'm a big fan of Iowa linemen. I like him quite a bit. He's a guy that will be the third drafted player off of that Iowa offensive line. Trost isn't bad. I think right there on that initial list though, I like, now see, Goldman is, I can't believe Goldman's, see that's not gonna, Goldman, I don't think will be on this list in real life. He's a really good center. He's a very good center from Michigan state. Nuiqi, Fibici, Noahu underwhelming to me. Mike Amoris is a good player. I do like Mike Amoris. He could move around a little bit. I mean, there's a lot of guys there. What about corners? Are there any corners there? The bills are one snap away from MJ Devonshire playing every snap for this defense. So I'm pretty concerned there. With that many offensive linemen left, maybe there is a need to go elsewhere because this they'll be available in the fifth round because there's a bunch of talent on that board. I like Takario Davis. That corner was on that list. Damani Jackson, PJ Hall, Thaddeus Dixon. Can any name jump out for you? Ephesians. We got some books of the Bible here in Hezekiah and Ephesians. Yes, I'm all about it. What about offensive tackle? Markel Bell? No anchor. Body's wrong. He looks like one of those. Remember the snow walkers and sky and star wars? The 80s. Yeah, the big thing on the, that's what he kind of looks like. Well, he's built a lot like Deon Walker. Very similar, but he's even taller. Probably more extreme. This guy's unbelievable. I mean, seriously, he's like, Deon Walker would be the large version. This guy's the extra large version of the unwalker. If you can imagine that, I didn't even mean to watch him. I was watching Carson Beckfield when I'm like, who is this left tackle? And then you're like, Oh, well, you can't move. So it doesn't matter. The guy on this list is Austin Barber. I think that would be a good picket tackle. I like Austin Barber. All right. Lost Ryan Vandemar. I think this could make sense, right? Take a tackle, try to, you know, build your depth back up at offensive line. Yo, Joe. I'm good. All right. Austin Barber drafted in the fourth round offensive tackle to the fifth round where the bills will have multiple picks. He can go inside a little bit if he has to. Yeah. The bills will have picks from the themselves, of course, and also the pick of the bears. Next up are the bills. They'll be on the clock, 160 fifth and 168. So there's two picks in a short little span here. And as we get closer and closer again, like we've picked up over the course of the day, an edge, a wide receiver and a tackle. Still looking interior defense, depth corner. And I mean, I guess safety could be in the mix, but I feel like depth, depth cornerback. I mean, Dorian strong replacement guys is here in conversation worth having for sure after not knowing what's going on with him. So to get to the bills and their next pick, we'll get a break in. And when we return, close out this round, this first mock draft, I should say, for the Buffalo bills on this, the bill squad shows coming up. We'll close it out next. Back here on the bill squad show, Jerry White, Joe Marino and the big O Jerry Ostrowski. We are in the midst of a mock draft. Our first for the bills, 34th overall, they had a key, Mezzador 91 Bryce Lance, 126 Austin Barbara. We also included our own linebacker Jake Golday with the first pick. 100%. Yeah. That's big. 65. Yeah. We thought the price on the trade for Arizona by this website we're using was a little bit off. So edge linebacker receiver tackle. And here we are with picks, two picks out of four in the fifth round. The bills on the clock. I love these sites where it's like you have five trade offers for the 165th pick. Maybe, maybe we do. Maybe we don't. But is there, is there a second receiver conversation to be had? Is there a second edge conversation, a second linebacker conversation? Like this, this team does have its share of needs. And so if you want to double dip, as they say, there will be options to do so. I'll give you guys the draft board and you can take a look and let me know what you think. I think we've got to go corner and into your defensive line. Numbers are just screaming to me that we need to add there. So I would, that would be my goal with these next two picks is to get a corner and an into your defensive line. You got to look at linebacker as well, don't you? Right. We, Jake Galday is, is remember that's our pick at 65. Oh, that's right. Okay. I forgot. Joe, you mentioned, did you say in a positive or negative light, Takario Davis here? I go Takario Davis for sure. Okay. Elite size, fast. Yes. Yes. Completed with that man coverage that Jim Leonard's going to ask of these guys. And then at 168, Jerry, you got a thought on defensive tackles, defensive tackles. We're still up on defensive tackles and a lot of the same names, still kind of there. Tyron Montgomery, DeMonte, Capehart, Xavier and Harris. If you want to take a flyer on the big guy, that's tough though, right? Cause like, I know that I'm not even doing a real draft right now, but I know the red flags and I feel bad wanting to do it. Could you imagine in real life, you know what I mean? Doing this like, no, I can't imagine. Not at all. Actually. It's got to be really difficult. Dude, I really like Chris McClellan. I won't lie to you. Yeah. I was just going to say that. I like McClellan as well. He's your, he's your typical nose guard, space eating nose guard. He did jump. I mean, jump basically 30, 30 inches in the vertical. He's not terribly athletic, but he did run a 5.05. Okay. So he can run a little bit, 6, 4, 3, 13, 34 inch arms, 11 inch hands. He's a big individual and basically you're bringing him in to say, okay, this area here on each side of the center, that is yours. He too got to college too. Right? I mean, some of my favorite traits. I'm looking at my notes, power, length, block recognition, contact balance, and body control motor. Like I think this is, is the penetration style nose that fits really well with this scheme. I think so too. No doubt. Plus the other thing that makes them desirable, fellas. From the city of Tulsa, from the nine, nine, eight. All right. Should have known that. I should have had another bit of trivia. One other bit of trivia. Is it on Chris McClellan? Yes. Okay. My son pinned him in ninth grade and wrestling. Very nice. It's like we should be drafted your son here. He didn't look like that. I'm becoming oddly acquainted with Tulsa lore here for some reason over the last year. I don't know what happened. You should be. I got a lot of love for the nine, one eight man. A lot of love for that way. Hey, Eton Thomas, Syracuse, great. Oh yeah. Booker T Washington, ice school, Tulsa, Oklahoma. How about that? Eton Thomas was at Syracuse and I was at Syracuse. That's right. For a couple of years there. Yeah. He was good. He was very good. All right. So Chris McClellan will make the pick. Yes. I love it. Chris McClellan and that completes our version. The bills would still have more picks. We're just, you know, I don't know if you guys are well versed into the sixth and seventh or strong takes on what to do, but what we've accomplished here for this, this bill's draft, Akeem Mezzador on the edge, Jake Gold, eight linebacker, Bryce Lance at wide receiver, explosive downfield guy, the brother of trailance by the younger brother, Austin barber, offensive tackle, T'Kario Davis and Chris McClellan. So like when you zoom out and look at the group of players, how did, how does it hit you? How do you feel? Did we do all right? I take it right now. If you told me right now, Joe, you can have this or whatever Brandon Bean does. I'll take this. One thing, couple things. I think A, it just shows even these mocks, it's, it's not easy. It's a pretty, it's a pretty interesting gig. Now granted, they've got what? 30 guys in the room giving them input. We've got three of us and it's not even what we do, but it is what we do. You know what I'm saying? One thing is, yeah, go ahead. No, you go ahead. I was just going to say the other thing is I think the steal of this whole thing is, is Lance. Yeah, I really do. I really do. I think he's going to be unbelievable. The thing I was going to say is when you do a mock draft this quickly, you kind of get over the things that happened right in front of you. Right? Like if I go back and revisit this draft and what happened, you know, if we were waiting for three hours to see if Concepcion was going to fall to the bills, he ends up going 21st. That's not that heartbreaking. But the second or sorry, the third round, no, I'm sorry. When we traded down, it went, you know, CJ Allen, Omar Cooper, Cassius Howell, Armace and Thomas. Those are all names we really thought about quite a bit. And then in the third round, it is where we really got hit with a couple more of those. Oh, that one hurts right in front of what you wanted to do. So, you know, I feel like when you do it this way, the heartbreak doesn't stick with you as well because you're only thinking about a player for two minutes. Yeah. As opposed to like, again, if you're picking early in the second round, you go to bed on Thursday thinking, I got to have this guy. And if it doesn't play that way, like, you know, tough. Remember the day when we just got the first three rounds done on Saturday? Oh, yeah. You saw that whole picture pretty quick. So feels like a million years ago. It does. Yeah. One through three and on Saturday, four through seven on Sunday. Now the first round, you get eight minutes of pick. I mean, this thing's going to be wrapped up by 11 o'clock. Yeah. It's free to attend. You guys going? Who's going to I thought about going out there and hang out with all those yinzers. I haven't heard many people talk about it. It's not that far away. Like Bill's fans could take over the draft. I guess if there was a, you know, a top three pick or something, then maybe that'd be a conversation, but anyway, it's coming to Buffalo. You know, bills are going to get it pretty soon. The draft that's, that's going to be, I might have to go to that. I've never been at the draft. Like I've been to the city that the draft is in, but I've like not been at the draft. I've done like, you know, broadcasts from elsewhere. If that thing's in Buffalo, we got to go. Yeah, for sure. For sure. I'm thinking already like RV, war room, setting it up, our own gig. I mean, heck, let's take it over, man. Come on. No doubt. I just Googled famous people from Tulsa because why wouldn't I? Bill Goldberg. What a poll. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Bill Goldberg. Bill Goldberg went to the same high school as Chris McClellan. They went to Edison together. They didn't go together, but they're from both from. I, I'll admit, there was like a season of my life where I did enjoy the wrestling and it was right when Bill Goldberg was, you know, doing his thing and that guy was awesome, man. I thought he was the coolest guy in the world. I was with Bill in Atlanta. You got to be friends and you could probably dig around on YouTube and find a fall brawl from the WCW in Buffalo and a bunch of us players there and maybe somebody on the screen hopped in the ring with Bill Goldberg and help. Whoa. This backstage. Let me. So I can find video of you in a wrestling ring with Bill Goldberg. Oh, we're all there. Me, Ruben, Ted, a whole bunch. I know what I'm doing when we're done with this street. This is unbelievable. WCW fall brawl. Yes. Fall brawl. You write that down. Bill Goldberg was in town. We hung out afterwards. Bill's a great guy. Great, great dude. That's phenomenal. Just when I thought the greatest Jerry Astrosky highlight was used like in that ball against the chargers. No, this is going to take the cake. No, it's pretty interesting. It's beautiful. That's why I got to bring a random stuff with you. You know, because I think- We'll have to talk about it. Yeah, we'll have to talk about it backstage one time. We'll tell you about the whole experience. It's pretty good. So last question. This, how it went or your dream first round pick and then let the rest of it fall as the chips may? I'll be honest with you. I think that's what's hard about this mock draft is I like what we did early, but I'm not in love with it. But I really like how it all, like the whole picture looks good to me. Yeah. But I don't think that the reaches are going to be there in the actual draft to make the thing flip the way it did. I think we, I actually think at 26, we're going to have a hard decision because even if he wants to trade back, he's going to have a couple of guys sitting there staring him in the face. That would be really good picks at 26. Yeah. And we fit us. I also lately have really come around to the idea that a team trading into the first round for a quarterback just to get the fifth year option is a bad idea. Brad Spielberger formerly at PFF made this point and I thought, I've never thought about it before. And that's right. And here's the question. How many quarterbacks get to the fifth year option? And if they do, they're probably not very good. Right? Like if you draft the quarterback and he's good, you're extending him after year three. You're not using the fifth year option. If you get to year three and you're wondering, you might rather have that decision on a tight end or a tackle or a receiver or some position where you still have time for a player like Dalton, Kinkade and a fifth year option is actually perfect. I need more time. If it's a quarterback, no one ever plays in the fifth year option. One of the, one of the outliers of this guys is Jordan Love. Jordan Love did not even play on the fifth year option. He sat for two years and after his third year, like before the decision on the fifth year option, they signed him to a different kind of extension. So maybe the real smart money, if you're going to trade up into the first round to get a fifth year option on a first round pick, it's to do it for anything other than a quarterback because there's no quarterback around that you haven't decided on by then. Yeah. But also, isn't the problem, if you play on the fifth year option, you don't have a really opportunity to manipulate the cap and your number is like humongous. It's exactly. Just to make this, to drive this home, if CJ Stroud or Bryce Young make one pro bowl, their fifth year option number is over $40 million. You would never play your quarterback on that. It's like for a quarterback, it's a built-in franchise tag. And I'd never thought about it that way. And of course, like, if I'm Arizona, why am I trading up for the option? I'm trading up if I think I won't get him, but I'm not trading up just for this tool. I know, I don't think that's a, that's a good idea anymore. So anyway, I think the thing that I'm hoping for in this draft is it's in Pittsburgh, they get the Pittsburgh's pick and they pick Ty Simpson and watch the entire place burn to the ground within like the first 45 minutes to an hour of draft. I would, I would love for that to happen. I think Bryce Young and CJ Stroud might be good examples of quarterbacks that ultimately play on those fifth year options. One of them, I bet will. Because I think, Stroud has to, right? Why don't, why, why, why wouldn't we also include Bryce Young with that? Because he made a couple of throws at the end of the season. True. Hey, I mean, I give him credit for that, but the whole thing is still the whole thing. But the thing about that is with a quarterback, it'll be a guaranteed salary. And that means the cap hit is also $26 million. I know, but who wants to, I hate the whole thing of you got to give them the 50, 60 million dollars just because he plays the position. I know, but the reality is like Stroud will be interesting. Like, does he instead get paid? Because what the Packers did with love again, was they signed him for, Hey, here's still some guaranteed money. You can make more with big incentives and we'll lower your cap number. That's what a lot of teams might do instead of just hitting with a $26 million cap hit. Anyway, I thought it was a super interesting point that it's kind of brand new to me. Anyway, this will be our only show this week real quick. We've got some vacations, we're juggling all that. So have no fear mafia out there. You know, we've got our regular schedule coming back. This mock draft stands alone as our one show this week. So we appreciate you. 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