Summary
Kirsten Dunst joins SmartLess hosts Sean Hayes, Jason Bateman, and Will Arnett to discuss her decades-long acting career, from her Golden Globe nomination at age 12 through major films like Spider-Man and Civil War. The conversation covers her approach to character work, balancing motherhood with acting, and her upcoming projects including Roof Man and The Entertainment System Is Down.
Insights
- Early career success can create unrealistic expectations; Dunst learned at 12 that award outcomes are unpredictable, helping her develop resilience about industry recognition
- Actors with sustained careers often shift from frequent auditions to selective project choices based on director relationships and creative fulfillment rather than financial necessity
- Dream work and unconscious character development techniques offer actors a structured method to build character depth beyond traditional script analysis
- Balancing dual-career households in entertainment requires significant logistical coordination and acceptance of extended family separations during production
- Warm, character-driven films with moral complexity appeal to audiences during uncertain times, contrasting with the assumption that dark periods drive demand for escapist entertainment
Trends
Decline of big-budget studio ensemble comedies; industry observers predict resurgence when cultural conditions stabilizeShift toward self-tape auditions and remote casting processes, making audition accessibility easier but removing in-person director interactionIncreased interest in true-crime and biographical films with humanizing narratives rather than sensationalized crime storiesDirectors like Derek Cianfrance building careers on character-driven indie films rather than franchise IP adaptationsActors leveraging long-term director relationships as primary career strategy rather than pursuing individual high-profile rolesTherapeutic and psychological character preparation methods (dream work, unconscious exploration) gaining traction in professional acting trainingFamily-integrated production models where spouses and children relocate for filming, creating dual-career household logistics challenges
Topics
Child actor career management and early award nominationsCharacter development techniques and dream work methodologyAudition processes: in-person vs. self-tape formatsBalancing parenthood with international film production schedulesDirector-actor relationships as career foundationAward show culture and outcome unpredictabilitySchool integration for child actorsSpouse collaboration in entertainment industryTrue-crime film storytelling and tone managementStudio comedy film production trendsTelevision vs. film career trajectoriesSelf-tape audition preparation and executionProduction location challenges (Budapest, Sweden)Theatrical performance vs. film actingCasting director relationships and long-term career planning
Companies
AJ Bell
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Mid-roll sponsor providing online therapy and mental health services with promotional code
Toys R Us
Referenced as location where Roof Man character hid during crime spree depicted in film
McDonald's
Referenced as target of robberies committed by Roof Man character in true-crime film
People
Kirsten Dunst
Guest discussing her career spanning from age 12 to present, including Spider-Man, Civil War, and upcoming projects
Jesse Plemmons
Kirsten's husband; met on Fargo season two; collaborates on family and production decisions
Sean Hayes
Co-host conducting interview; recently returned from London theater production
Jason Bateman
Co-host participating in interview and discussion
Will Arnett
Co-host participating in interview; planning to visit Kirsten's home in Toluca Lake
Derek Cianfrance
Director of Roof Man and The Entertainment System Is Down; recommended Kirsten for Melancholia
Channing Tatum
Co-star in Roof Man; described as 'one of the real ones' by hosts
Paul Thomas Anderson
Recommended Kirsten for Melancholia; subject of Kirsten's aspiration to work with him
Jane Seymour
Sat next to young Kirsten at Golden Globe Awards when Kirsten lost at age 12
Jeff Nichols
Directed Midnight Special; last director Kirsten auditioned for before Cianfrance project
John Krasinski
Recently performed in one-person Broadway show; praised by hosts for performance
Laura Linney
Referenced as successful performer in one-person Broadway shows
Billy Crystal
Referenced as performer in one-person Broadway shows
Quotes
"I didn't win. And then I was crying on, Jane Seymour was next to me, like for Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman. And I was just like crying under the table pretty much."
Kirsten Dunst•Early in episode discussing Golden Globe nomination at age 12
"Really, it's also, it's so odd, isn't it that like, you're not like the competition of it all. No one's playing the same character."
Jason Bateman•Mid-episode discussing unpredictability of awards
"I just felt like I didn't want to not be near him is what I thought."
Kirsten Dunst•Discussing first meeting Jesse Plemmons on Fargo set
"I would have done anything with Derek. Right. So this isn't a part personally that I would naturally maybe gravitate towards, but I wanted to work with him for the experience."
Kirsten Dunst•Discussing Roof Man casting decision
"I think they will soon. I think they have to. Yeah. Yeah. Because the world around us is too dark."
Kirsten Dunst•Discussing future of big studio comedies
Full Transcript
At AJ Bell, we believe every customer deserves brilliant service, which is just one reason we're rated excellent on TrustPilot. And we all trust pilots, with their smooth, captainly voices that make you feel like you'd let them land anywhere they like. Sorry, where was I? Right, AJ Bell, rated excellent by sexy pilots. I mean TrustPilot. I'm a flight risk! AJ Bell, feel good investing. The value of your investments can go up or down. Jason, Will and I are the only two people in glasses. Will, was that like a billing situation? You said Jason and Will, no, sorry, I mean Will and Jason. No, I said. Will called you and said, listen, next time you mention my name along with Jason, you mention my name first. And you also say and introducing. Will and introducing with me. I prefer the next one. You want to say Will and Jason and introducing Will? Yes. You're saying that you're the only two in glasses. Yeah, I was going to say, you usually wear glasses? I do, I wear my reading glasses, but I'm far back enough now from my screen that I don't. So I look younger than you guys. Well, you know, you don't need to see Will today very well, because he's doing an audio show called Smartless. And welcome to it. Smart. Let's hang on a second. Sean Hayes is back in town. No, you can't applaud for yourself. You don't start the applause, Sean. We'll start it. Okay, then you can join it. You know, just. By the way, I have to tell you something. I would go, I went out the stage door after a couple of shows, I don't know, after one show and people were doing that bit. They're like, no. Bravo! No, in England. Yeah, in England. Yeah. You guys. But. The bits travel sometimes. The bits travel. People are listening. But I just got back last night and I swear to God, I weighed about 179, 180 when I left. I weigh 165, 165 pounds. So you lost 15 pounds while you were in. Well, if you lost it and you're looking for it, I can tell you where to find it. How long will it take to get it back? I swear to God for breakfast, I just had a bowl of pasta and two pieces of cake. Because it was Scotty's birthday yesterday. You got a big race tomorrow or something? Wait, wait, wait. It's 9.30 in the morning right now. Yeah. You've already had. But to him, it's din-din time. A bowl of pasta and two pieces of cake. His belly is saying, feed me. It's dinner time. That's right. That's exactly right. Yeah. It was, but yeah, I got back yesterday at like one in the afternoon and I went to bed at 8 p.m. And I got up at 1 a.m. and then went back to bed. I got up at 7. So I slept like 12 hours. Yeah, I needed it. It's crazy. Yeah. And did you have to clean the CPAP machine in between? You're still on that, are you not? No, I lost the weight so I don't need it. Yeah. Do I truly? Truly. It was the weight that was caught. It's a combination of things. I try not to sleep on my back too, but yeah. Okay. And do you have like nails on your back or something so that if you roll on your back, it pokes you away? Yeah. Yeah. That would be good. Strap on some sort of like a nail bed. Well, people used to do that. They'd like, they'd put like a tennis ball. They'd wrap like a tennis ball on their backs. No, they didn't. What are you talking about? What do you mean did they? Look it up. Oh, redo the research. You're selling my wife. Wait, keep going. Do the research. I love research. People go, I did the research. I did the research. What do you mean? Oh, you have access to Google? Yeah. Wait, what website told you that people used to strap a tennis ball to the smaller back? I read that a long time ago. Wait, to do what? To do what? I don't understand. Somehow like put a tennis ball on the, on the, I forget how they do it like a new shirt or whatever. So that if they roll onto their back, it's uncomfortable. And then they want to roll back. Or it's gentle. They do it with like duct tape or something like that? I get it. Or like a tensor bandage or something. Don't say fucking tensor ever again. You know, I think- Your dumb lips. Tensor. Stupid. Stop looking at my lips. Professional Greek. I was doing it this morning. Were you? Yeah. We are professional great. The river doesn't damn itself. This country wasn't built in a day. Not a week either. You do Santa Claus too, Will, right? You play Santa Claus? I know it's Batman. Oh, Batman. You know what? Batman Santa Claus. Hey, Sean, we got to get you a nice campaign. What would you like to sling commercials for? Yeah. Call it right now. Is cake a thing? Yeah. It's a general cake spot. All cake products. The cake makers of America. Yeah. I could do that. Sean, would you like to go to a cake convention? Would that be like- Wouldn't that be fun? Wouldn't that be great? How was the reintroduction to your dog? Did he give you any attitude? He comes back today in about 300 hours. Still haven't seen him. How long has it been? Three months. Wow. You think he's going to give you a little bit of a hairy eyeball? Welcome back. Side eye. No, he will- Will he poop in the bed? No. He will. I'll do that. No, he'll- Oh, Sean. Still? Welcome home. No, he'll go, wow, it's you. And then run and just play and then want to treat. Well, it sounds like Scotty. Listen, Sean, we're so happy to have you back in the fold. We missed you the other night. We talked about you all the time. I know. Are we all hanging out this Sunday? Yeah. What if you guys are like, no, sorry, that was it. Last Sunday was it. We are Sunday. But in the meantime, Hollywood Bowl. Oh, well, by the way, sorry, we are going to the Hollywood Bowl. We are going to the Hollywood Bowl. November 15th. November 15th, Hollywood Bowl. We got a couple of guests. We got a couple of great things. I got a super big guest. Will, you better bring the noise on your guest. Yeah, I'm going to bring the noise. It's going to be a lot of fun. We're also going to have some special guests as well. It's going to be a lot of fun. Special guest sprinkled around? Oh, yeah. We're going to have a lot of shiny moving objects. Am I going to be told about the special guest? Or are they going to be secret? Yeah, you've already been told. We've talked about it before. But I mean, you just don't listen. But anyway. Tell me your name one more time. Oh, God. I'm sorry. Unless I put it in the context of golf, he doesn't hear it. Jason, we already talked about it. We did. Yeah, I know we already talked about it. Don't you remember? Okay. We're going to welcome our guest. Is this someone that's going to make me nervous? It's really, well, I get nervous about this secret guest. You know this person and you're going to be nervous about it because she's like a, she's a super wattage mega talent. But I've had the pleasure of meeting this person a few times and I'm always the little starstruck I got to admit. You only meet someone once. She was nominated for her first Golden Globe when she was 12. Shut what? Yeah. And has kept it going ever since. She's been in countless fantastic movies. Once you start naming him, it's like, forget it. I think I know who this is. I don't think you do know who this is. It's not Jody Foster. She's been in, I don't even know. I can't even, but her first. Her first nomination was for interview with a vampire. Shirley Temple. Person Dunst. I just guessed it was Person Dunst. Jill Manji dropped at gorgeous Spiderman movies Civil War last year and Roof Man October 10th. This goes to the next. Roof Beal yourself. Hi. Hi. Hey, I fucking guessed it. By the way, that's the first time I think I got it right. By the way, Academy Award nominee. You didn't even let me get to the top guys. Sorry, sorry. So. Robbed her. You robbed her of that. Hi, Kirsten Dunst. Hi. I'm so happy to be on this show. I know. Does anyone call you KD? Yes. Really? Yes. I'm a lot of names. Well, listen here. Listen here, KD. Yeah, what? You're never going to work for the government because, so I'm in Toronto and I'm walking by her table, you guys. And up she pops, hey, I'm about to be on your show. I'm like, hey. Oh, that's right. That's supposed to be a secret. So your government job is done. That's okay. But I was like, okay, I'll play like a big surprise. But you never know. You didn't know. You didn't know when. You never know when. You never know when it's going to happen. That's the good news. And you guys were up at TIFF because you were up there promoting Black Rabbit and you were up there promoting Ruth Man, which I'm really excited. The following day and it was killer. I hear it's amazing. That movie's freaking awesome. I can't wait to see that movie. It's so good. It's like a perfect Christmas movie. I love it. Love it. Love it. Love it. I can't wait to see it. And we're all very excited for it. And we're really excited that you're here. It feels like finally a little bit. Couldn't make a deal. Where are you? Where is this? I'm in Toluca Lake. Oh, wow. You're just up there. In the valley. Will and I are about to shank a couple of balls into your backyard in a couple hours. We are about to be there in a couple of hours. There's probably a better way to say that. Yeah. Yeah. Don't worry. We'll scrub it. So you were supposed to be on here a couple of years ago for Civil War. And I forget what happened. It was a schedule thing, blah, blah, blah. Oh, one of you were sick. Yeah. Sick. Jamie, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. Jamie. I was battling. Wait. You were so great in that movie. That movie was really cool. I know. I love Civil War. It was so good. I know. I need to see that. I'm scared to see that. I feel like it's probably super good, super accurate. It's like the same reason. You know that movie United 93 that Paul Greengrass? Yeah. Okay. Sure. Yeah. I'll never see that because what I hear is that it's just too good. It puts you on a plane that's plummeting from the sky for two and a half minutes. I did that movie that's coming out next year on a plane. No. What is it called? Really? The entertainment system is down. Oh, yes. Wait, what? What is that about? That's the guy who did Triangle of Sadness and Yes, and Horsemature. Ruben Oslin to name it. You're in a Ruben Oslin film? Yeah. That's like that was, yeah. You and your hubby are just in about every great movie you ever want to be in. I know. I know. And your husband, Jesse Plemmons, who's also a wonderful guy. I had a pleasure meeting both of you last year or something. Just sweet, sweet, super talent. And so you did that movie. The entertainment system is down, which I've just read about, which looks awesome. What is that? What is that like, like satellites go out or something? Well, what is that? Sound less perturbed about it. No, no, I want to know because it sounds cool. What is it like, the satellite's down or something? Do I still get emails and stuff like that? Can I still do Candy Crush? Does Candy Crush work? By the way, that's real. That's all I do. I know we're talking about some other movie, but tell me what that that one's about just briefly. Because I want, I love sci-fi or stuff. So you want to prepare? It's not sci-fi. Oh yeah. But I mean like doomsday stuff. Well, it's human doomsday basically on a plane. Yeah, it's human doomsday. God. It's called the entertainment system is down because there's no Wi-Fi. There's nothing. Right. Right. So you have to deal with each other. Uh-huh. Okay. That's what I want to see. Sean, it's like, you know, like the bar on Tatooine in Star Wars. Oh, got it. I'm on board. I'm on board. Okay. Sorry. I just wanted to put it into context that you could understand. So Kyrsten, walk us through a little bit. I mentioned that you got your first big award nomination. It was for Golden Globe when you were 12 years old. How trippy was that? I mean, for a 12-year-old. I don't think I really realized, like, you know what? I was working on Jumanji and everyone's like, you're going to win. You're going to win. And so don't tell a little girl that because I didn't win. And then I was crying on, Jane Seymour was next to me, like for Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman. And I was just like crying under the table pretty much. On the table, on NBC, in front of all the, and everyone's all banged up on champagne. And there's a little girl there looking for someone to hold. Wow. Did you have a speech all lined up and everything? I don't remember if I did, but. But hey, better to kind of learn that at a young age that you know, you can't trust the outcome of stuff, you know. I was going to say, yeah, I was going to say, did it help kind of right size all of that stuff eventually? You know, it's like award stuff doesn't, like, you know, we all know like the good stuff we all love usually doesn't get nominated or it doesn't win. It's like, so really all you have is the experience of making it. That's all you have. Right, right. Really, it's also, it's so odd, isn't it that like, you're not like the competition of it all. No one's playing the same character. It's like, you know, a hundred yard dash, you know, everyone's going the same distance who gets there quicker. It's pretty clear. I had to audition for the movie on the plane for the entertainment system is down. Oh, you did? Yes, and that feeling, I hadn't been that excited to get a role since Interview with the Vampire. So like to me, auditioning and getting something is like, that is crazy. That's the win, yeah. When was the last time you auditioned before the Ruben Oslin thing? I auditioned for this movie with Jeff Nichols, the director, Jeff Nichols called Midnight Special. It was great, the great Jeff Nichols. That was a great movie, Midnight Special. Yeah. Love that movie. So, but wait, so that was like 10 years ago. Yeah, it had been a minute. At least. I don't think, yeah, that was the last time I auditioned. Oh my God, were you nervous auditioning again? Well, I did a self-tape. Which is easy. All by myself. But yeah, it is easier. The New World. It was all improv. He gave me an improv and yeah, I just, you know, put my iPhone, I just taped it on my iPhone and pretended. And if you sucked, you just get to do it again. Yeah, I did two takes. I felt, I was like, and I didn't watch it and I just sent it. Did you ask Yesi to look at it? No, he was away. So no one was there to. So you were just all by yourself. You just, no way. And what, so what do you think he was looking for? Like, do you mind saying what the improv was? No, not at all. My improv was a, two people are sitting bored next to each other on a plane. He's asleep with our son. And I am bored and look at his phone. And I discover that he's been cheating on me. So it's like, you know, hanging out on the plane, bored, do the whole like face recognition thing. Right. And. Wait, no, so that's all your, your, that's all your idea. No, no, this is all he wanted me to do this. Okay. Basically the director. And so then I see a memory comes up on the iPhone. That is like two caught in eye Joe. That song. And it's supposed to be like him cheating with a bunch of different women. Where did you come from? Where did you go? Exactly. So then I see that he's been cheating on me and I wake him up. But at first I have to go through, you know, all the emotions and shit. And since there was no one else in the improv with you, as soon as you wake him up and you start to confront him, it's over. It's over. I was like, you need to wake up. And then I just, I just got pissed and I got up and shut off my phone. Oh, I love it. I would have loved it. I mean, it's wild to do a self-tape of an improv by yourself. I know. Yeah. That's, that's so weird. I did put Jesse's camera like that because he's always shooting film of our family. So I put his camera nearby. So I had like a, I don't know, a symbol. This is real act rate right now. Of, of him, of something. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How long have you guys been married? Oh God. I don't even know. We've been together for about 10 years. We got married after kids. Yeah. Yeah. Really? Three years maybe. Okay. Got it. Yeah. That's great. Wait, talk a little bit, a little bit about, so doing that audition for that movie by yourself, the, the, the nightmare self-tape improv, which is bizarre, but, but it probably been a minute since you, you said you auditioned for another film, but, but how different was when you first started auditioning when you were a kid, basically. Yeah. Yeah. And JB, you had that experience too, auditioning a lot when you were a kid, right? Yeah. Yeah. And what that, and what that process was like back then, what it meant to you back then, did you feel were the stakes high or was it just kind of like after school, go do it and then go do your thing? Yeah. What, yeah. What is that like? Do you put it, do you put a big thing on it? What do you think, Kirsten? I did. I did because we'll like, okay, for, for, we were at the Oakwood apartments. Oh my God. Nice. I was going to normal schools. For my sister, Oakwood apartment, for Tracy, Oakwood apartments is a, is a complex where a lot of actors would stay while they did. Because you can rent it monthly. Yes. You can come out for pilot season. I'd come out for pilot season, bunch of years in Rome and stayed there. Same. Yeah. Oh, same. Okay. Where were you, where were you coming from? I'm from New Jersey. Okay. Yeah. All right. You guys could have come out. So we would come out. Yeah. We probably could. Remember you used to have that sign on the, when you, when you left to the back, the one on bar, right? Yeah. Yeah. So in the back gate one had a, as you were waiting for the gate to open, there was a little sign on the gate as it moved. It said, smile at showtime. Oh God. I don't remember. I remember thinking like, how soon do you want me to take my own life? So depressing. Not getting any jobs. Go get them. Oh God. Anyway. Anyway. So, so you come out. So, so you're Oakwood. You're at Oakwood with your. I'm at Oakwood. My mom, my brother and my grandma. Wow. But I would go to normal school. I went to Laurel Hall in the valley where I met my best friend. So, so I had like a normal ish life because I never was home tutor or anything. Yeah. But yeah, auditioning was, when it was a big role, like I remember this, it was like, I auditioned for Interview with the Vampire, auditioned for the secret garden and I didn't get the secret garden. And I remember sobbing about that. Wow. But now, but was it, did it get more stressful as you got older? No, because I think because I got success from interview, I didn't have to audition for a long time. Like I auditioned for little women, but it wasn't frequent enough to traumatize me. I auditioned for Spider-Man was the big next one that I auditioned for. Uh-huh. Did you get it? I did. And was that. So he's jet lagged for a ghost and he's just cheeky. Even though he's not in England anymore, he's still cheeky. JB, did you ever, did you ever, I mean this honestly, did you ever sob or have that thing, that pressure? I remember you talking about the pressure of getting a job because it was the family business. I never cried, but what was worse was that I'd be so paralyzed with fear on the way to auditions when I got to be in my 20s because I literally needed the employment. I needed, you know, it wasn't just like fun when I was like a little kid and I get to skip school. And all that stuff. And then it became like, you know, well, this is, this is how it's my occupation. So I did you support your family, Jason? I contributed for sure. Yeah. Did you, Kirsten? I didn't have to. It started out as like, ah, fun college money, whatever. And then my parents got divorced and then it was a little like, well, you're making the most money. So my mom lives in my back house. That's sweet. Yeah. I'm a good daughter. Oh yeah. I'm a good daughter. That's good. That is sweet. Yeah. I love that. Very, very cute. We'll be right back. This is a paid ad by BetterHelp. You know, you've heard me talk a lot about my mom and how funny she was and how much we love her. But boy, was she a huge inspiration to me. She gave me the tools I needed for the work ethic I have and the funny bone in my body. She's one of the best human beings, if not the best human being I've ever known. Women deserve to be celebrated. 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All right, so you're in Toluca Lake. What's going on? Is Jesse in town or are you, you guys must take turns single parents. I was going to get into that. Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, it's so hard. I had a real moment last night. I just went to my friend's house. I was like, I can't parent alone tonight. I just can't do it. Just leave a bunch of milk and crackers out and... Well, I took them with me. No, no, no, I just brought them all. What do you think she's doing over there, man? That's how I grew up. Wait, how many kids, how many kids and how old? I have two boys, but like literally I'm getting ready for this and I get this sign. I need you. Him sad, me with the door shut. Look at that drawing. Sean's dog drew a similar picture. Wait, did he make that? So, listener, this is a picture of Kirsten inside one room with the door closed and then her son on the outside. Upset. Upset. And so did he slide that under the door? Yes. He come out. Yeah. And I let them sleep in bed with me when Jesse's not here. I am like, actually, you know who we watch? Well, it's the Lego master show because... Nice. Oh, it puts you right out, right? Yeah, no, I used to. That's like, yeah. It's like a sugar crash. It's calming. It's a fun thing to watch with kids, isn't it? It's a very fun family show. So are you guys all... So one of you is pretty much, is it safe to say always working and that's why you have to just... We had the summer together. No, we had the summer together. It's like whoever's up next, whatever happened. We're still trying to figure it out, you know? But it's really hard. It's really hard. So, yeah, they're four and seven. So it's like, and they're two boys. It's a lot. Yeah, orange. Yeah, I've been there, done that. Have you thought about, and you can shut us up anytime we're getting too personal, have you thought about the... Shut up. Sort of the conv... I didn't know that was an option. Fuck it, shut up. This is the fucking greatest day of the podcast. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. The possible convenience of homeschooling, you know, we guys just just drag them around. I don't want my kids to be weird. I know, you know, exactly. They need that social interaction probably, right? Yeah. Ah, no. I know plenty of parents that have done it successfully. So who are we to judge? But I definitely benefited from getting away from adults and into school and being with kids when I wasn't working. It was great. Yeah. And they were just... You pick up... The great news was the bus that picked you up was the school. Turns out Jason went to school on a bus and he didn't drop out of high school. He was dropped off from high school. It is true. It's going to be a fun chapter in the book one day. Oh, God. Oh, my God. Don't you cry, don't you cry, JB. I'm not crying. You're crying. So you... So, and you kind of mentioned you didn't really have to audition anymore and you did... You kind of did for little women, but then you just started doing... And you mentioned you get nominated, I guess, when you're doing Jumanji, which was a huge... It's just massive. Yeah, massive. You kind of went on this run of like just being in these big, massive movies and you're young. So you're like, oh, well, this is my reality. Yeah. It wasn't though. Like I was almost embarrassed. Really? Really? I think so. And I didn't really... I like how to block her up. I think that didn't compute what I was doing. Plus, what am I doing? I'm going to school. I have my best friend. We're in our own world. Like I really lived in a very little like school bubble, you know? So I would do my thing and then... I know, but didn't it get weird like on the weekends and you go to your school parties and all the kids at the party and you're just trying to... You just feel like you're just one of the kids at the weekend party. And then like, oh, hey, that's that girl from the movie I saw last week. Like, wasn't that... They didn't do that to me. No? Come on. You were pretty famous though. Yeah, but I don't know. At a very early age. They didn't do that to me at school. Yeah. Maybe it was like I was very normal. I didn't come into school like, hey, look at me. You know, I was embarrassed. Yeah. Like talk to me about that. What do you mean embarrassed? Like embarrassed because of the attention that you got that was a byproduct of the movie that you weren't looking for? I think I just didn't want to be singled out at school as anything other than another student there and high school too. Like I didn't want anyone to call me out or be like... So I underplayed myself. Were you already through high school when you did bring it on? It was senior year, the summer before senior year. I love that movie so much. Like the ultimate cheerleading high school movie too of all time. But we didn't know that at the time. That was like a little San Diego who cares movie, the universal. You know, it wasn't like no one knew that that was the movie. Do you still remember some of the cheers? You know I do. Do you ever do it sometimes ironically on set when it's trying to ramp up the crew in the cast? Come on. It's a fucking night shoot and it's time to keep going. Ready? Okay. I did it for my sons yesterday because we went to this 25th anniversary. Well, we went to this 25th anniversary bring it on thing on Sunday night. No way. And they had good pop-ups. So I brought some pop-ups home and I was like doing cheers for them and spelling their names. That's the only show. Those are the only people that are good to get that show. Did they like it? Yes. My son was like looking at me like I was like, whoa, like a golden goddess. I didn't know you could do this, mom. You don't want him to like it too much. Cheers squad. Yeah, I actually a mom recruited me to start a cheers squad at the school. Really? Oh, wow. Yes. Yes. Oh, I'm going to do it. I'll do it. Yeah. I love that you're going to do that. I do love that show. That show cheer on the folks. Oh, yeah. That's right. That's so good. That's real good. That's until it got dark. I know. I think. Is it? Is it dark? I don't know. What is it? It got dark. A guy got arrested for bad things. Yeah. Oh, God. Wait, I didn't see that one. Did that happen on the show or away from it? Off the show. Off the show. Oh, yeah. Oh, God. Wait, Shonda, did you ever experiment with cheers squad? No, but my sister was a cheerleader. What's your sister? Her name is Tracy. Okay. And she- With an EY or is it just Y? The EY, yeah. And she lives in Wisconsin. Does she know much about the biz? Yeah. No. Do you have to explain stuff to her ever? Yeah, anytime you guys can think about it, just make sure. Continuing. And so she would have, she would do cheerleading things, and she would do batons. Oh, wait, do I have the photo? No. And I thought you were going to grab a baton. And there's a picture of me and her. I love you to be with me. I love her. And I love you. And I love you. I'm so excited. So I learned how to do the baton at a young age. What is the little thing, the dude in front of the band, the marching band? It's not- The stick. Yeah. So it's got a pointy stick and then a little ball at the top. Is that also a baton? Or just- Yeah. Or like a band leader stick. Or staff. Yeah, staff. Yeah, something like that. Anyway, Kirsten. So- I'm happy chilling. Yeah, I love it. You don't get to talk on the show. I love it. Wait, so tell me, wait, because like Will said, you've done so many gigantic movies. Is there, I know you don't want to, they're all important to you and all of your work is important. But there are different, like, sort of different styles. Like you really bounce around. You can't be pegged to one thing. Like you've had these, like, it almost feels like different phases. Well, they're just different roles, I guess that's what it is. Yeah. Simplistically. But is there one where you're just like, you know what? That was the greatest experience of my whole career so far. And you just thought like, there's no way you can get better. And that all the cast- Not result necessarily, but just experience. No, yeah, no, the experience, the experience. Huh, I don't know. Because like movies aren't fun to make, you know what I mean? Right. Right, yeah. So, but, God, I really like- He'll take the worst experience. I liked making melancholia. It was like this little isolated, it felt like we were doing a play. We all lived in this small town in Sweden, in this hotel slash housing place. And it was just like cozy and really calm. And so when I'm like comfort, I don't know, it was just, I just felt like, oh, this is what it could be like. Largest one, Trier? Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. And now that you have a fam, go ahead. Well, I'm going to ask a dumb question, surprise. When you, I'm not sure about going to Sweden, to Norway, to Finland. Why? Because of the light. I feel like I'm going to get very sad because if I- If I'm there during the time of the year, when the sun only comes up for a couple of hours, I'm going to feel like a good player. I mean, they call it winter. I mean, they call it winter. Is it winter? I can't, I'm not sure I can do it. No, it's very, we were there in the summer, so we had a beautiful Swedish summer. Almost worse, almost worse, right? Because there's, because the sun never goes down. It did. It's weird. I went one time, I went one time early July and I flew from here and I landed there, I had crazy jet lag and then woke up at 4am for a phone call came through and it was, and I step outside and it's blaring sun and it's like 5 to 4am. And it felt like it was noon and I was like, what the fuck? Where am I? It was so discombobulating. I feel bad. I would- I mean, because of that, Kirsten and because you have a family now and Jesse works and it's this very artistic, you know, you're just around it all the time and the schedules. Do you still enjoy going to another country for three, four, five, six months, whatever it is to work? I mean, is that those experiences, do they still fill you up? Well, I did enjoy Budapest. Let's just put it that way. I really did not. Well, our son, we all went as a family. We enrolled them in the international school there. Yeah. And then my son had appendicitis and emergency surgery and then recovered for a week and then had a blockage. So basically, my time in Budapest was horrible. It was horrible. God, that's so young to have an appendicitis. Usually it takes years to fill that thing up. I don't know. I was like, everyone's like, drink the water there. So I was like, yeah, the water's great. So now I'm freaking out. Like, was it the water? I don't know. Wait, what movie was that on? That was on the airplane movie. Oh, that you just did? No shit. No shit. Oh, wow. So this first part, I mean, everyone's had a shit year, it seems like. But the first part of our year was pretty bad. So but to Sean's question, are you a big nester? Like, now that you're back home, do you love just not going anywhere? Yeah, I don't go anywhere. Yeah, me either. I stay in my radius of school drop off and neighborhood restaurants. I don't lose the valley. It's nice, isn't it? You go in there to that Bob's Big Boy, you get in there? Oh, I love that place. I like the car nights, but I never want to eat there. Bob's Big Boy. The car nights. I love it. Sean, cool it, man. Yeah. OK. It's not going anywhere. Yeah, we're not going to be done with this for another 20 minutes. Guys, start the car! I was in London just yesterday, actually. What's today? Tuesday? Yeah. And I just finished my last show. I did a play there, Kirsten. And it was a final good night. A final good night for us. And every Sunday, we would go to Five Guys, right? The burger place. Yeah, yeah. And so Will FaceTime me and Scotty on our walk to Five Guys. And he goes, where are you going? I go, he goes, are you on your way to Five Guys to get a burger? I go, yeah. He goes, by the look of you both, you're going to walk out there. Looking like 10 guys or something. We're like 10 guys. Am I right? Am I right? Is this thing? It's so stupid. But I love those old burger joints, like Bob's Big Boy and stuff. And there's a lot of them in the valley, like old pizza places in the valley that are really great. I'm going to say something controversial. There's Chili John's, too. Have you been to Chili John's? Yeah. Chili's is a real relic. It's on. Right across the street from here. Riverside and Coldwater, is that the place? No, Chili John's is on, is it Magnolia or Burbank? I think it's Burbank and it's very cool old school. Have you guys done Apple Pan? You must have done Apple Pan. Yes, of course. But that's over the hill. Yeah, Apple Pan's a mess. That's over in Pico. I'm going to say something controversial. There are burger places that everybody talks about that are only, that I just think are really overrated. Like? Well, I don't want to name it. I want to raise people's votes, but I'm not going to name people things that I don't like. Well, that's super, super courageous. Well, I will say our friend on Sunday makes a burger. Yes, the best. Very much on par within and out. Oh my God. It is. I would say better. Yeah. I would say better. Oh, yummy. I could be with you. I would say better. Wow. It's really delicious. You have to come. Let's go around the horn here. If you could have only one classic junk food as your final meal, would it be like a burger? Would it be a pizza? Would it be a grilled cheese? That's a great question. I will go first. I think it's going to be pizza and I'm going to have a side of well done fries. Okay. Okay. Oh yeah. Here's to it. I would do, I probably, yeah. Yeah, you go. No, you go, Sean. I was spaghetti. Okay. Really? But that's not junk food. Yeah. Well, it's not. It's so Sean Hayes. You know, this guy, can I have some ice cream? Yeah, what flavor? Vanilla. That's it. That's his goat. He loves it so much. With a glass of milk. Mother's milk. It's mother's milk. Kirsten, what would you have? What would be your ultimate junk food? Well, junk food. I mean, like comfort food. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I honestly, I might do in and out. Yeah. Cheeseburger with a chocolate shake. Just a single? Well, cheeseburger extra spread, no onions is my vibe. So not the double double? No. Extra spread though. I like your style. You're not doing the spread on the side. You want them to slather it right on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good for you. You got to eat it quick for the bun get soggy. Yeah, that's why I turn the air conditioning off when I get takeout for home. I'm like, AC off. This should get better. We rolled up in the bag real tight. I hate when people come home with an open box of in and out. I do too. Oh, I do too. What's the point? So AC off because you want to keep your burger hot? Yes. God, I love you. That is the extra level right there. That is really interesting. I'm with you on that. Wait, can I go back to work for a second? No, wait, Arnette hasn't declared. Oh, yeah, sorry. I'd go pizza too. I'd go pizza and chocolate shake. And what kind of pizza is it? It would probably be just a, more than likely just a cheese pizza. Maybe with some meat on it. May sausage, sausage. Some nice pizza. Yeah, I would say sausage and some onions. Is that a crispy or is that kind of a soft? I'm a... No, it's got to have a sort of a crispy, crispy undercarriage as they say. Black bottom. Black bottom. Not necessarily black bottom. But I just got to have some crispy... And I... Some snap. When I see people eat pizza and put the crust to the side and they don't eat the crust, I'm like, are you... Oh, that's fine. Are you a communist? What are you doing? In college, I used to eat the pizza and then save the crust and dip it in peanut butter after. Ew. Oh, God, you shit. Peanut butter? Yeah, because it was just bread. I mean ranchers. Sean, I mean this with all respect. You fat fuck. Wait, I want to ask for work stuff. It's Kirsten Dunn. I know, I know. Me too. I want to ask something. I want to know, do you have any kind of routine things that you do before a shoot, after a shoot, during a shoot or something that you're consistent about that, like, you know what, I'm about to start a job. So this is how this is going to go. I'm going to make sure I do blank, blank, blank. Like, flexing your faces or... In the mirror. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anything I do. Are you big on research? You're big on like getting and studying your character and figuring out what they have in their pockets and all that. Actors, stuff. They have a secret. My characters have a secret. I, what do I do? I do dream work. That's my main thing I do. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. What's that? I like that. Yeah. What is dream work? I just did the first time. You did? Yeah. Yeah. Is that the company that was started by David Gaffrey? Come on, yes. You're on the right. No, no, no. Wait, Kirsten, what is dream, I don't know what dream work is. So there's a couple acting coaches you can call them, but they're more than that. But my lady is someone who's done it. Your mom did it too. And you basically ask your self questions and write yourself a note at night of what you want to find out about your character. And then whatever you dream, you write it down and you discuss it with her and implement it into... Oh, that's cool. The script. That's really cool. But regardless of whether the dream had anything to do with the question or your character, it's just whatever your dream scenario was, you incorporated into your character's backstory. Well, you're writing yourself a specific note at night. So you're asking your unconscious to give you something that you can implement. Yeah. Yeah, that's cool. And then when you're done with the movie, you write yourself a note, I'm done with this character, blah, blah, blah, and sign out. There's your routine. There's your thing that you do. Yeah. That's pretty rad. Yeah. That is pretty cool. We'll be right back. And now back to the show. Are you good at remembering lines? I'm getting worse. Yeah. I'm so bad. It's coming for all of us. Really? I'm getting so bad that if I read a script and the person talks a lot, I'm like, I don't know if I can do this. So if somebody brought you a one-woman show on Broadway. Oh, hell no. Hell no. No, no. Our buddy John Krasinski just did one. He knocked me out. My God. I love that. Is that awesome. Just fucking unreal. It looks like the Billy Critter's done it a bunch of times. Yeah, they're both men. See, women, multi-task. Laura Linney's done it a few times. She's nailed it. You can do it. I don't know. It's weird to me. I don't like the idea of doing a play. It's a lot of work. Let's be honest. It's a lot of work, right, Sean? I mean, Sean. Oh, God. I know. Sean just came off basically two and a half years of doing this play. That sounds so tiring to me. I did it over 200 times. Are you OK? You got a Tony out of it. Got a Tony. Yeah. I mean, at least you got the Tony. I mean, I know what you mean, Kirsten. It is, you know, you don't do it for the financial because theater doesn't pay, but you do it because of a thing inside as an actor that you just wouldn't otherwise get the opportunity maybe or you get that character that you've always wanted to play out of you. So you're like, great, I did that. And now it's done. And now I can go do maybe another character. Do you ever think about the audience judging you though? Like, oh, that person's just coming to see the girl from Spider-Man. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like a little weird. The girl from Spider-Man. That's the name of the play. I just, I just, I don't know. Maybe when I'm older, I'll like it. Listen, one of the only live things I did was set her at live ones and I had the best time of my life. But I grew up watching that show, like literally one of the best times of my life. How was that experience? I had one of the best times of my life. No, but I mean, like specifically, like what was the, what was, yeah. Well, I grew up watching the show as do my kids now. They'll call out people and be like, you know, will you put on the Bill Hader puppet sketch for me? You know, like I show them Chris Farley with the Colombian coffee, you know, the decaf Colombian coffee frequency. I gotta see that. It's one of the funniest sketches ever. We used to call our youngest, well, he's baby Chris Farley, but I don't know where I'm going with this. You were talking about the specifics of what you loved about the week on SNL. So I was, when I was younger, I played Data Carvey's grandchild when he was George Bush on the couch, like eating popcorn as an extra. And I was Victoria Jackson. Yeah, thank you. In one of her spoof commercials too. So it's like such a legacy thing for my family. Yeah, it felt, yeah. Did they show that clip when you hosted? Yeah, they did. No way. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. And it's in the, when you walk, like in the main hallway, when you get there, little me is in with Data Carvey on the couch. That's cute. It was one of the, yeah, it was so, I loved it so much. I loved it. That's great. So yes. What do you do when you're not working on films and stuff and moming? You know, do you, what do you want, what do you love to do? What do you fill your time with? You're just like nothing, shopping, walking around Toluca Lake. I, honestly, the other day I dropped them off. I went to Pilates, I did do that. And then I just watched TV. I want to lay in bed and watch TV. That's all. Sean. Yeah, I don't want to make a generalization here. A sexist generalization here. But you're gonna, but you're gonna? But I'm gonna, I'm, you know, I'm gonna, here, here, this would be a good bailout. Somebody told me the other day that they noticed that, I'll just talk about my own house, Amanda watches all of her TV in bed. I watch all of my TV on the couch. On the couch. Yeah. And I find that that is not uncommon. But I said that pretty, pretty well, didn't I? You were there. Yeah. You did a really good job. Why do you think, why do you think that is an uncommon thing? As it relates to gender, you mean? Okay. Sean said it. No, I didn't know it. Or just people, or just like some people like to watch TV. I've tried to watch TV in bed and I get, I feel like I'm getting like bed sores. Like I feel that way. I need to be able to shift around a lot. I always think the bed is for sleeping. And so that if I start watching something in bed, then it's going to mess with my sleep. Yeah. And it's gonna knock you out. And it can't sleep unless the TV's on. You cannot fall asleep unless the TV's on. Scotty can. Yeah. I don't know. Kirsten, we're going to be right with you. Hold on. Yeah. Yeah. Do you fall asleep with the TV? Do you fall asleep with the TV on, Kirsten? No. No. You got a TV in the bedroom though. Hell yeah. Yeah, hell yeah. Some people don't. We got one. Does Jesse watch it? Yeah. To go to sleep? No, not to go to sleep, just to enjoy. But what about, will you, because Amanda and I often fall asleep, where she's watching her iPad and then I'm watching the TV. But she's got to have the fucking headphones on so that she can hear her iPad and not hear what I'm listening to on the TV. But it really only lasts about 10 minutes. But that's on the couch. She's down in your room with you and she's on the couch. No, no, this is when I eventually go upstairs and I get in bed. And you turn the TV on when you're in bed. Yeah, she's got the iPad already going. I got to bring her her headphones. She puts those on and then I turn on the TV and let it rock me out. You guys should try something called talking to each other. Huh? Well, what are you? That'll be relating, Jason. Let me come over and help your marriage. Just give me 10 minutes to help your marriage. Kirsten, is there somebody that you dreamed of working with, that you have with, because it seems like you've worked with all the great, like great, great, great people? I mean, the one is Paul Thomas Anderson. I feel like that's everyone. I hear that new movie is going to be a thing. Yeah, looks sick. But he did recommend me for melancholia. So that was. Oh, we did. Oh, that's cool. Well, Jesse could put in a good word for you. He's worded them at least once. I mean, I have his phone number. He randomly emails me sometimes. So I have those saved. Just start sending him just random headshots of you from over the years. He did. He called me once and he was like, I need to talk to you about something. And I was like, oh my God, like this is good. And then we played phone tag forever. And then we finally got in touch and he was like, ask me about what it was like working with this other actor. Because he's thinking about giving them a job. I was like, you know how mean that was of you? That was not cool to do that. I can't imagine the pressure. He must feel so much pressure like every actor that he ever talks to. They're just hitting on him. Is this my moment? What can I do to make a good impression on him? I know. Well, listen, it'll happen too. You can manifest anything. I mean, of course it's going to happen. Is that right? Well, what does the universe say about them? By the way, it's true. You don't need to raise your eyebrows up. You want to fuck me on this? You want to fucking fight me on this? Give me your pitch on Manifestation. Put it out there. You're saying ask the universe for what you want. It's going to happen. Yeah, you know what I was saying? Why not me? Why not me? Well, why don't you just let them, you know? I could let them too. Mel Robin. Thank you. Mel Robin. And we'll be right back. We've been doing this lately where we try to go to the commercial. And we'll be right back. How did you, did you mention, how did you and Jesse meet? We met on Fargo season two. Oh. Yep. And we, it's so funny. I remember seeing him at the airport, like us meeting at LAX for the first time so clearly. We just were- He doesn't remember it that way. You said that it's almost like he doesn't remember it. No, no, I just like, you don't often remember meeting, the first meeting with someone you could picture it in your brain really clearly. Yeah. Well, but can you say why it's, it, it, it, you remember it so clearly? I don't know why. It's like one of those things that like, while I remember that moment, even though I didn't know this was my future husband, you know. When did the flirt start? Can you tell us? The flirt? Like, I think we were so like soulmate and mesh kind of in our characters too. Like, but also the way we worked. And I just felt like I didn't want to not be near him is what I thought. Oh, I love that. Yeah. Even at lunchtime, like I'd be like, what are you doing for lunch? You know, whatever, let's make a sandwich at Crafty because whatever. Who asked who first, whether they were involved in a relationship? We both kind of knew, oh, we were both in relationships. Yeah. So then it was respectful all the way through. Yeah. Totally respectful. And then we just kept in touch. And then both were out of our relationships. We didn't get together till a year after. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. South by Southwest was our first hangout. Aha. How about that. Hot Austin summer nights. Back to one. You know. Still rolling. We would, we'd be remiss if we didn't talk a little bit about Roof Man. So JB, you saw this movie. It's amazing. Roof Man. I saw this movie. I give it a huge, huge thumbs up. Huge thumbs up. Directed by the great Derek Sanfrance. And co-starring Channing Tatum. Yep. It's a, it's a, it's a, based on a true story about a dude who lives inside of Toys R Us for a couple months. Yes, he does. He, he basically robbed like 45 McDonald's through the roof. That's why they call him the Roof Man. Yeah. This is all true. Really? Yeah. And he hid out in a, in a Toys R Us for six months. Yeah. It's, it's, and it's, you know, like, you know me, I'm a dark idiot. And so I keep waiting for this film to get like kind of scary and bleak and dark and crime. And, but it's so, this, this film has such a great spirit and warmth about it, even though it's a centralized around a character that's, you know, breaking the law left and right. And it's not like an overtly sort of Robin Hood thing where they kind of earn it all, but it kind of is. But there's just such great, like, there's like a tone throughout it that, that Derek Stienferrans just like pulls through it that is just like such a high wire act that's so cool. And Kirsten, you and Channing do such a great job of, of maintaining that too. It's like, I don't know, I think it's just one of the hardest things in the world to keep something winning and watchable all the way through. Yeah. Not be like sappy or corny or feel manipulative. Yeah. Yeah. Right. It never gets earnest, although it's, it's a very warm movie. It's, I don't know. It's very hard to describe, but I highly recommend it. It's really. Yeah. And Kirsten, I love that. I can't wait to see it. Do you find yourself as, as long as you've worked kind of integrating yourself towards whether you get credit for it or not, a producerial kind of role when you choose your acting gigs, meaning I like this part. I want to meet with the director or whatever it is, but I have these things to say about how to improve my role in it so that it works for me or whatever the thing is. I mean, I did that on a TV show, but I feel like it's both those movies that I did, Roof Man and this, and the plane movie were so developed that it's not really, you know. Yeah. You're just like great. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I would have done anything with Derek. Right. So this isn't a part personally that I would naturally maybe gravitate towards, but I, but I wanted to, again, work with him for the experience. Right. Like I just, yeah. That's. Was it everything you hoped it would be working with him? Yes. Yes. Yes. How about that? Yeah. That's so cool when that happens. I want to work with him again. Yeah. Here he's a great guy. I've never met him and Channing is just like the greatest. He, I love him. Right. He is such a good. Such a good dude. Yes. He's the real, one of the real ones. Yeah. So I mean, honestly, and, and, and obviously Derek is such a great filmmaker, but, and his movies are kind of little movies. And when I say that, I don't mean in terms of, just in terms of like the, compared to some of these huge movies that get made these days that are all like based on IP and whatever, he has these really great little story driven movies that he makes and with great characters. Do you, and you've done all of them. Both. Yeah. You've done great stance and both. Yeah. Yeah. Now when you look to do stuff. So as you sit here and, and, and you're at home and Jesse's off working and you're thinking, okay, I'm going to do something. My next thing, do you have a plan? Do you go like, I want to kind of hit this note next or do you just kind of wait? I kind of wait, but also I'd like to do something fun. Like I just want to have fun and I, yeah, I want to do like a comedy or do something big and fun. And what, and why, and you know, that like, that's the thing we talk about on the show sometimes like, where are those movies? Why do they not make those big fun studio ensemble comedies anymore? I think they will soon. I think they have to. Yeah. Yeah. Because the world around us is too dark. Yeah. I think there is. I think people just have to, I think people are going to want to crave or going to start craving that. I don't know when, but I think. I know I want to direct the comedy next. I think it, I think it, you know, sometimes I was talking about this, like this idea that when we're in times that are dark, people don't have as much of a appetite for these big sort of actiony fun, pithy movies because they, because it's not where they're at. And, and it's all often a reflection of like, if everything sort of feels calm in, in, in, in our culture, then we can just kind of go and do these big goofy things. And when it's not calm, it's hard for people to let go. It's weird because you'd think that they'd want to have the escapism, but they actually don't. Yeah. Like scary movies are actually doing really well. There you go. Weapons. Oh my God, that movie's good. You love that weapons. I do. I love that weapons. I know. Yeah. Julia, come on. Have you seen, have you seen it, Kirsten, weapons? I haven't seen it yet. No. Do you watch movies? Go to Jason's house. He's showing it about every two hours. Yeah. Do you watch movies though at home? Or like, by yourself or with your kids or whatever? I like going to the movie theater. I, yeah. And I'll take them to the movie theater. I, yeah. I, I'd rather, if I watch a movie at home, I fall asleep. Yeah. Have they, have they, have your kids seen all the classics like ET, Star Wars, all those things? The two young people. You know, they're four and seven. Yeah. It's not like, but you know what, my little guy- I was seven when Star Wars came out. Hey, it's Sean. She hasn't shown them Star Wars. Don't do it, man. Fuck. Okay, go ahead. Sorry. No, I, my four year old likes Venom, the first Venom, which I probably shouldn't have shown him. That's so weird. That's so weird as far as my little guy. Oh my God. My five year old likes Venom too. Really? We're probably not good parents for showing them, but whatever it is. I saw the exercise when I was like eight or nine. Yeah, I saw it that young too. I should not be seeing that. Also, my child was begging me in my four year old to watch Jaws. I was like, okay, Jesse and I showed him the first 10 minutes and tried to explain that the girl is being pulled around on a rope. Yeah. And now he won't go near the ocean. But she's getting eaten alive in the shark. No, he went. He did. He still went. Yeah. Nowhere in the sand. I'm like up here though. But I had to talk him down. Yeah. Well, listen, keep in mind, take it at which much of your time. This is, we're, you're such a delight. I mean, I could talk to you guys for a while. I know we can. No, zero pressure vibes. I'm coming over. I'm coming over later this afternoon. Great. Come over. Come have coffee with me. Yeah. Sometimes those interviews, they feel like they were, that they're like 10 minutes long. You just, I know. This is all very easy breezy. I know. Jason and I are coming until we're going to stop by the house and we'll drop off some internet out for you on our way. Yeah. Thanks guys. It's going to be hot as shit too. You know how to make a girl happy. Yeah. All right. So, so Roof Man is out October 10th. We're really excited about it. October 10th. Also with the, as you called it, the airplane movie. I forget what it's called. You're going to come back for that. I want you to back. You're going to get entertainment system is down. I want to see that. Yeah. So many amazing things you've done. So many great roles. You continue to do it. You're such as a light. So happy to have you here. Yeah. What an incredible career. A great person and a great mom and a great wife and like, are you just doing it all? Thanks guys. Thanks guys. KD. Thank you for joining us KD. Thank you for having me. It's really nice to meet you. It's really nice to meet you. Thanks, Shawn. You too. Bye guys. Bye. Bye. Bye. I mean, that was real special. Real special. Listener, you didn't see the bonus moment there with the two young boys and she finally opened up the door and let them in. And they came in and said hi and Will did his Lego Batman voice and they, it blew their minds. Cute kids. It was funny. Really cute. Really fun. I love that. So cute. So cute. So, so cute. What a nice, nice lady. You guys are cute. You guys are really cute. You got a couple cutie pies out there. Great career. She's not even halfway done. I know. Oh my God. She's just getting warmed up. Yep. She's just getting warmed up. She is so, I'm so excited for Roof Man, JB. You've already seen it, but I can't wait to see it. It's going to be so good. Yeah, I want to see it. And then the entertainment system. I want to see that other one. I know. I know. The entertainment system is down because what would we do? She's always good. She's one of those people. Always good. Everything she does. Shawn, you get that all the time. Yeah. And JB? Hey, man. You know, no, no, no, no. 50, 50, 50. 50, 50. Yeah. Sometimes you're on and sometimes you're on. Stand by. Bye. Bye. Oh, that's so fast. Bye, buddy. Bye, buddy. Smart. Nice. Smart. Nice. SmartLess is 100% organic and artisanally handcrafted by Michael Grant Terry, Rob Armjalf, and Bennett Barbago. SmartLess.