'UNPRECEDENTED': Tom Homan Pulls Federal Agents in Minnesota

We got breaking news Tom Homan announces a major draw down a vice in Minnesota. Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulo. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments for call 1-800-684-3-110. And now your host Logan Sekulo. Welcome to Sekulo. I'm back. Thank you, Phil. Hold him down the fort yesterday. All right. Well, that feeling great. Jordan is on. Obviously, why should you see? Jordan's going to be joining us. I believe a little bit later towards the end of the broadcast. And of course, we want to hear from you at 1-800-684-3-110. That's 1-800-684-31-10. The breaking news out of Minnesota today. You know, every, feels like every day there's something new going on with this story. But today, it was a pretty big one, which is Tom Homan, who had been sent in there to kind of chill it out, to bring things down, to see if he could actually lower the temperature, if you will, as that was the famous quote. I feel like that everyone kept saying, can we lower the temperature? And of course, we agreed. We thought that there needed to be a time where Minnesota could have some form of peace and could at least move forward a little bit. Tom Homan announced a massive drawdown of the federal presence from ICE that will be there. It was with unprecedented cooperation from local police. We were talking about 700 federal agents who would departing the Twin Cities. I think this is an interesting moment. One, I don't know if all of us know the scale of which, of how many people, how many ICE agents are actually on the ground. If you told me that withdrawing 700 was not withdrawing the mass majority, I would have been pretty surprised. But it's actually, as Will said, I believe only about 20%. About 20%. There was between 2,800 and 3,000 officers in Minneapolis area in Minnesota. And that is a lot. That is a significant operation. But at the same time, this kind of goes back to what a lot of people had been criticizing the leadership in Minnesota about. Is that if they were cooperating, not necessarily needing to go round up, but to report when there is a release of someone from a detainment for criminal charges in whether it be local law enforcement or state law enforcement, they were coordinating with the Department of Homeland Security, the Board of Control and ICE, and saying, hey, this person that's undocumented, that is also facing criminal charges or is a criminal themselves, is being released. How about you come pick them up? What happens? A lot less drama, a lot safer for both the community and the federal law enforcement? And also, you need a lot less people. I see a lot of comments coming in saying he's surrendering to the left. These, you know, this is their watering down everything. I want you to hear this comment from Tom Homan. He said, I'll say it again, this is efficient. And it requires only one or two officers to assume custody of a criminal alien target, rather than eight or ten officers going into the community and arresting that public safety threat. And again, he said, currently have an unprecedented number of counties communicating with us now, allowing ICE to take custody of illegal aliens before they hit the streets, unprecedented cooperation. So essentially saying, we don't need eight to ten officers going after one person or whatever it may be. We're going to scale that down. We only need one or two. And that is going to help the visual a lot. It's going to help the conversation move forward. And look, I think it's important when you have the chaos surrounding Minnesota to have a moment where it does feel like there's some bipartisan work and bipartisan effort. If the intention, look, you could say, surrendering, I doubt it. This is probably coming from the very top. To go in there and to bring the tone down and what can it be? They sit in Tom Homan, who had been lauded as now like the savior had come in. And at this moment, seems like it's doing his job was able to take a couple of weeks here, see what he could come up with. And now it seems like it may have been overkill in Minnesota. So we're going to discuss that coming forward. I'd love to hear from you at 1-800-684-31-10. We've got some calls coming in already. 1-800-684-31-10. Give me a call right now if you'd like to be on the air. We're opening up this conversation. Again, Jordan's going to be joining us a little later. And also the ACLJ is really hard at work. We got a lot of news to cover. I only got 30 seconds in this. But we have so much to cover. I'm looking at what I should have been pitching you. And I didn't do it. I'm going to do it when we get back. I'm going to tell you all the news that's going on in the world of the ACLJ and why you need to get involved. There's a great way also for you to interact. Of course, that's going to ACLJ.org. There's a lot of incredible content there. None of it's behind a paywall. None of this is behind a paywall, whether it's this show, whether it's our legal work, all of it's available to you at no cost. And that's because people like you support the work of the ACLJ. And many of you are ACLJ champions, those that give on a monthly basis. So do that today at ACLJ. I'm your right back with more on Cyclolo. Welcome back to Cyclolo phone lines. Like I said, our open at 1-800-684-31-10. Want to kick this off, actually, by you hearing from Tom Holman himself. Of course, we are reporting the news here that really breaking news that we they have decided to withdraw about 700 ICE agents from Minnesota, specifically from the Minneapolis St. Paul area. Again, I think that number should be a bit of an eye opener of what was happening here. And maybe this is why you have someone like Tom Holman come in is 700 is only about 20% of the workforce of the ICE workforce that is there currently on the ground. If you were to ask me how many people agents were there, I don't know if I would have given you 700 for just this one individual market. So then you bring in somebody who maybe knows a bit more about how all this works like Tom Holman. And he can go in in a very president Trump kind of way and refine the mission actually get things handled and do it in a way that's efficient. We have some calls coming in. We're going to take some of those at 1-800-684-31-10. But I want to start off with you hearing directly from Tom Holman himself. We want to get these men and women home. They got a job of doing home. I think we can become a long ways. I'm actually just have to know sitting on my chief staff. I am actually amazed at the cooperation and agreements we already talked about in the willingness to work with us. We're doing better and ever thought we would. Seriously. And I'm excited about getting back to the business of enforced immigration law without this. Without arresting people for 1-11 for interference and impeding. We just want to do what we've done for 30 years. 40 years. I've done it for 40 years. We want to get back to doing the job. And that's what we're playing on doing. And I want to keep hearing it and hearing it and hearing it. We're not surrendering the president's mission on a mass deportation operation. If you're in the country illegally, if we find the will deport you. But this is about targeting forced operation and that's what we're going to be doing. I think you're going to have a lot of people breathe a sigh of relief when you hear someone like Tom home and then there. And when he says specifically, you know, this is the president's mission. I think that's also the signal that if you think that some reason he's bucking the system or is changing the way President Trump or the Trump administration wants this handled. President Trump pays attention to what's going on in the world. He's reading the room. He's reading the temperature midterm elections are coming up. There's a lot happening right now. He sees that this has become a splintering moment for a lot of people that specifically the deaths of Americans, whether you believe it's a listener or a watcher of the show. If you believe that they were, I guess, quote unquote justified or not. It did create a moment of tension going, these are American citizens. These are not these people who were just demonstrating who both have been shot to death in the streets by ice agents. That's a fact. I'm not saying one way or the other, whether you believe that they were justified in the shooting or they were not justified the shooting. There were still dead Americans because of this situation. So you send in Tom home and he looks at everything with his team and decides we don't need 10 agents for every person that we are trying to get out of many Minnesota. Maybe we can do that with one to three. And you see this deduction. You see a room being read. Do I think that there'll be people who says this is not enough on both sides? Absolutely. And we got plenty of those calls coming in that say that. Well, and I want to hear from people as well that see that I see it on YouTube. I see it on Rumble saying this is a sign of weakness that this is capitulating to the left, which I tend to disagree with. Remember, there's still going to be 2000 according to Tom home and agents there. This is just the first step in drawing down because in his opinion, there should have never had to have been 2700 plus agents there to begin with. If there was that cooperation between the state partners and the federal enforcement arm. And so when you start to look at this as well, when you saw how out of control it got when you saw even the raid on the church by the leftist agitators and that led to the arrest, it got so out of control that as he even said a lot of their arrests, then were them detaining people that were obstructing the law enforcement instead of even the commission. Tom Homan here is being able to get back to the core mission, making sure that they can focus on getting the illegal criminal aliens detained and out of the country, as he said. And so I think that's important to show here, but I think also instead of looking at Tom Homan is someone who's capitulating by taking 20 to 25% agents out that he no longer feels are necessary because of the steps you are seeing from the local leaders. And I want to play bite to from Tom Homan here in a second, but once again, at the same time you could say the same if you were on the left. Oh, this is capitulation from from Tim Walls from attorney general Ellison because they are now allowing him to take criminal aliens at the place where it's the safest for them to do it. We want ice out completely. So whenever there is some sort of meeting in the middle when it's such a charged political moment like we see here. I feel like you're going to have people on both sides are going to make that that an issue say I'll how dare you how dare you capitulate instead. I am happy that this could potentially lead to safer immigration enforcement not just for the officers for anyone that decides that it's it's their cause to get out there and and obstruct and impede and try to do all the things that they've been doing. I don't want to see more people hurt whether it be an American citizen that's a civilian or law enforcement. But let's go ahead and play bite to because I think this is really telling that the people that were obstructing the whole time were the leaders and now all of a sudden they're not doing it anymore by two. I want to thank you know the sheriff's the government the AG I think we're in a lot better place than we've ever been and we never have this kind of cooperation. At this level and I'm not leaving until we get all done but I'm happy to say I'm extremely pleased with the leadership team and their outreach to the sheriff's to the state. To the chiefs I've talked to I've talked to many of my talk to all of them but I plan on talking to everyone before I leave and thank them for their cooperation and Logan I think once again people should call in if they think that what Tom home is doing is capitulating. Let us know why one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero here you don't feel that but also at the same time this is the guy. That the former secretary of transportation Castro had said has a heart of darkness. They this was the ultimate evil for the democrats Tom home. And now you start to see that whenever it's they find a new evil another more evil person because they demonize every single person on the right and in the Trump administration. That oh well he sounds actually like the rational one is because you never were listening to begin with when he is wanting to enforce the laws of this country it's not because he has a heart of darkness is in the evil person. And so because he wants to enforce the laws of the country that's what he's done his entire career that's why he was given commendations under administrations like Barack Obama's because these are serious people. And when you hear these words I don't see them as a capitulation at all I see it as him knowing how to efficiently run this system in wanting to do it more efficiently and I think that's what we're looking at here. Let's take a caller too. Let's go to Bill and Wyoming. Bill you're on the air. Yeah okay thanks for taking my call. Just let you know the things go right I'll probably give a few extra bucks this month. And thank you so much we appreciate that. Of course no pressure. I'm sorry I'm going to have to apologize but I kind of I'm kind of doubtful about what the left will do because I kind of think that they may try and actually turn this against the administration say hey look we're not going to do that. We're much more powerful the administration just really doesn't know what to do and if they do do it their Nazis or something like that. What's your opinion? Yeah Bill I mean look I think that you can't ever doubt that anyone in politics will use any moment or any what you'd say quote unquote sign of weakness which I see a lot of people saying that in the comments for their own political gain. Of course that's the truth that could be used against them however I do see a little bit differently which is I don't see everything is politics black or white here and go well if this is what's best for the country best for business if you will. Great let him use it we'll see what happens but I think what you'll hopefully see is that maybe this could actually be a moment where Americans can remember that we can work together. Well and once again remember there are still 2000 and force mage and so there 1000 which is probably more than many people would have thought were there originally I just to remain but at the same time it all depends bill what the goal is if the goal is to own the left and to say we won then yeah maybe this is the wrong move of saying we can work together and just continue doing the same enforcement style see more people most likely don't know what the goal is. Most likely die because of the temperature at that it was in Minnesota the way that it was getting so heated and aggressive that would continue you would see more tragic shootings both ways you would probably see more law enforcement injured or killed as it continued to. Boyle over as it was doing instead here you're having someone say hey my mission isn't to win a political argument it's to enforce the immigration laws and I think I can do it better and now they're working with me so we are more efficient we're not having to worry about as many protesters that we have to arrest for breaking the law I feel like that's a win they can say whatever they want like look they pulled out 700 but does it matter if the mission is still being accomplished. That matter to me yeah next up we're going to talk about a major victory in the world of the ACLJ in the world of our fight for life. It's been a little while since we've had some good news coming from the world of the fight for the unborn we are going to want to stay tuned for this as we continue to take on play a baritite and you'll hear some big things that are foot. Be a part of the show too as will said 1-800-684-31-10 will be right back. Welcome back to Sec Yellow phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-31-10 I wanted to divert just a little bit of course we're talking about Tom Holman pull that about 700 ice agents out of Minnesota what that looks like with the ramifications are what you think about that that's fine we're going to discuss that. But I didn't want to talk about the work of the ACLJ it's most important work what we do here of course the fight for life continues a couple years ago you had the overturning of rovers white big victory for a lot of us and for a lot of you as we've done the analytical data. That was kind of the end of the story for you you decided that the fight for life wasn't something that you saw as an urgent threat because you saw it being overturned and returned to the states and of course we know certain states have had much stricter laws but play state where you're like we're going to do it. You know obviously the more left leaning states that have gone maybe to the extreme which will fly you in and will pay for everything they've become abortion haven't. So we continue the fight the fight keeps happening but this is a really interesting one and we have to kind of take a step and go okay well what's their plan what's the meaning but I believe we can start with it's a major victory at least for now. That is of course you remember during the big beautiful bill when that was all being passed one of the big sticking items was the deep funding a plan parenthood at least for a time being. And of course that's been something that has been a big ticket item if you will in the world of politics it feels like that's always something that is dangled in front of the voter saying the American people will no longer have to pay for plan parenthood with their taxpayer dollars a lot times it doesn't happen. And it's always a sticking point and look president Trump as much as he has done a lot for the pro life movement this has been one of those issues that he's even maybe used as a bit of a bargaining chip when debating what should go through and what shouldn't go through and what's better for American people but in a really another unprecedented moment plan parenthood decided that their lawsuit which they steal James involved in against the big beautiful bills defunding of plan parenthood. So no longer worth their time and they have surrendered and withdrawn their lawsuit again at least for the time being ACLJ supporters take this as a major victory at least for now that's right and as you remember there were several challenges to this funding provision one from non plan parenthood abortion clinic. Then we had also there's a challenge led by California surprise surprise although they are fighting it in Massachusetts where this case stemmed from so there are a couple other challenges out there a lot of the early stage challenges where we've been successful on appeals had to do with injunctions against this defunding portion of the bill so as of right now it is they are defunded but this was a shocking moment this was very surprising because plan parenthood. filed a voluntary dismissal notice in federal court in Massachusetts and you have to sit here as Logan said and think okay what is their endgame one big victory they are no longer fighting they no longer at least that what you can kind of take from it think this is a battle worth fighting in federal court and so that is a big victory this hard work that ACLJ supporters have have rallied around our organization and many others. To push for this for a very long time take the win they do not give up easily right but here are the caveats and here's kind of where my analysis goes when I start thinking why why would they do this one remember one of the things that happened was the the time frame of the defunding only became a year from being a permanent defunding maybe plan parenthood is thinking instead of wasting money. On a lawsuit which could go all the way to the supreme court and end up giving us precedent we don't like if the supreme court says of course you can defund maybe they think we need to spend more money on midterm elections because we know that that's very important to them and we know that plan parenthood through their action arms spends a lot of money on elections don't don't think that what's going on in Minnesota. Is it also connected to the midterm elections right the writing is a bit on the wall I don't want to be doomsday or for you conservatives who are listening obviously that's probably the mass majority of people that watch but the odds are not good right now that's right and I think that if plan parenthood is looking and saying okay do we do we take the loss of funding for a year. And maybe not have this continue on in court through the appeals process maybe even to the supreme court what if we just read we refocus where that money is going and we fight to make sure that we get as liberal of people elected as possible so that next time the funding is up when that year expires we can get more funding we can push back and get retro active funding and push congress to get to a point. To give us what we want which they have done for decades they have used the American taxpayer as a piggy bank for so long billions and billions of taxpayer dollars have gone to plan parenthood over the decades and I that's where I think that they probably lean so take this as a win but not as a time to quit fighting. It's a has to continue it's a temporary win on the continual journey and look we see you see the ads if you watch the news especially if you watch him not Fox you'll see ads for plan parenthood running all the time they are certainly funded a lot by donors and supporters and maybe they like as will said they can take the temporary loss knowing what they're going to be heading into and look a lot of you called in and we're going to take a lot of those calls coming up I want to make sure you stay on hold I'll even take some of the next segment here because the one thing that I'm going to do is I'm going to take a lot of those calls coming up I want to make sure you stay on hold I'll even take some of the next segment here because the one thing that I'm going to do is I'm going to take a lot of those calls coming up I want to make sure you stay on hold I'll even take some of the next segment here because the one thing that I'm going to take a lot of the next segment here and work with the ACLJ like I said continues there's also a bit of an update we only got a couple minutes here on that California school. That's right we are filing this morning a brief actually to the Supreme Court on a school where California is forcing Christian schools to make Christian education optional. So effectively taking away the autonomy of the school private schools being able to make Christian education at these Christian schools. We are fighting back against that California is getting wild here folks. I mean we feel like we are in a lawsuit with Gavin Newsome more than we are not. I mean this is what I feel like the third or fourth one that we've done just in the last 12 months. But these are when they start getting involved not only in your kids public schooling fine you know that's part of what you get public schools you understand the issues but when they start regulating really what goes on with the faith practices in your private schools. The ACLJs got to get involved I think this should be a easy win but we're in California so unlikely it will be an easy win if you rational people who watch this show. We're the people making that decision I would go of course a private school a private religious education can say whatever they want about faith and yes it's not necessarily optional if you decide to go to Christian education. Well and that's why this is a brief to the Supreme Court because the Ninth Circuit upheld the state's position that they can force private schools to say you must let people come to your school and then opt out of the teaching and the message of the that's core to the education philosophy there. Why would you even be sending your kids there good schools good schools but the faith based schools there are plenty of private schools. But there's plenty of private schools that are not prep schools those kind of things you can find them leave Christian schools alone we're going to get involved here at the ACLJ we're taking the Supreme Court of the United States we can't do that without you so I want to encourage you right now when you're thinking about supporting you know where to put your funds the ACLJs perfect place to do it go to ACLJ dot org right now make a donation and if you can. 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When into Minnesota we weren't sure what he was going to do and he decided we're going to pull about 700 agents that it's overkill in Minnesota I think that this is a moment when you listen to what he has to say and when you read his statements and if you approve of honestly what's going on I think you should be looking at this through you know clear eyes and go okay if one of the leaders one of the most trusted names here saying we were going too far that you don't need 10 agents per per person that you're going after maybe we could do it one or two maybe we can work better and closer and in a friendly relationship with local level police of forces. I think you brought in someone and I'm very pleased that that maybe could as I said earlier which is what Tim wall said he wanted which is what present Trump said he wanted which was to lower the temperature. I said even before the the deaths of both of the protesters if you keep amping it up eventually we're going to lead to blood in the streets and again whether you're one of those people that thinks it was justified or not. It's still a fact that American citizens were killed on the streets by ice agents that happened you don't want to see that we don't want to see protest turn violent ever. And I would say that on the other side as well. You didn't want to see that in any of the protests that have been happening over the last decade to decade really in the history of American modern American real world you don't want to see protests escalate to death. Tom home and went in seems like he's doing a pretty good job there are a lot of different points of view on this a lot of you've called it we are going to get to you and I want to go ahead and take a couple of you let's start with some you been a hold for a little bit longer than not want to go to Joe and Tennessee Joe line to go ahead. Hello yeah good thing in Tennessee we don't have to worry about that I am a blind individual and there's one thing that the left they don't care about disabled people they don't spend money on job programs to get us gainfully employed the only only thing the left wants to do is give you a check and leave you sit. And and to all the illegal immigrants the left doesn't care about you you're a you're another vote. You're another vote they don't even care about the unborn so why would they care about the living yeah Joe I feel that way in the world of politics look I think there's a lot of people who do care. I think there are a lot of protesters I think it's a mixed bag I think you have the sort of paid actors you have the professional protesters and agitators. Then I do think you people who are genuinely concerned about what's happening to their local their friends and family that are here illegally. And I get the concern there but what you are correct and is it and it feels this way and I hate to be that person that over politicize is something but it feels like you can see it in the way they treat certain laws whether it's the the pushes for voter ID or the push that it's always thinly veiled racism it feels like coming from. The partisan hard left. Positioned as this you know piece making love everybody version but really when you look at it Joe is right it feels like it's for a vote and it's pandering well and once again you saw that with when the president was real acted and you started seeing them even talking about the immigration push and what were people on seeing and saying like well I can't wait for these white ladies to see how much you're going to do. White ladies to see how much they're smoothies going to cost now because who's going to go and work on the farm. It's always seeing people not as people but as a voter block a special interest group that will continue to get them reelected. Right we saw a big change in that where in the state of Florida. The state of Florida you had a lot of people who said I'm not voting based on the color of my skin. I am not voting because who you think I should vote for I'm voting for the person I think will do best for me whether in the state level whether on the federal. We got a couple lines open now 1-800-684-31-10. I'm going to take as many calls as we can in this next segment because Jordan's going to be joining us in the final so stay on hold if you're on hold see a couple ACLJ champions in there 1-800-684-31-10 call me right now to get on the air. We'll be right back with more on Secular. Make sure you're always staying tuned at ACLJ dot org. Welcome back to Secular. Really interesting comment that we actually just had during the break if you're watching on our social media platforms you'll see clips and things and that we just started from from time home and just talking about how this is not you know bringing. Down the amount of people it's actually refining it making it safer for the people of the twin cities I think it was very smart. The way that he is positioned this which I have to be honest in the way that we have presented this the way the news has presented this a lot of people presented this does feel a little bit like America versus Minnesota or you can even say the conservatives versus Minnesota. And I don't believe that's how we should be treating states it's easy to do it. I'm not saying we're not guilty of it. Somehow it's sometimes how we talk about California one of my favorite let's always say New York California to my favorite places in this planet. I want them to thrive I want them to succeed it becomes a little hard when they say California says hey Christian schools you you're able to we want to make sure that if you are a Christian school and your student there you can opt out of Christian studies at your private Christian school. And they start interfering this way it starts feeling that way when they say hey we're still a million dollars and fines we'd like to collect from covid for you church that we feel like violated the law while you know what we were doing ourselves those things make it harder for it not to feel like America versus California America versus Minnesota. But the way that Tom home and worded that I actually felt a bit of relief I think that that's good a bit of relief and a bit of unity because Minnesota is not its own country is not its own land. It is part of the United States of America. Unless that I've enjoyed visiting over the years. So it's nice to not hear this sort of us versus them version. I want to take some more phone calls. Oh well yeah and I wanted to kind of to go along with that as well because what you're seeing it play out in the way that the narratives are are put out there is. Okay well let's let's get back to those numbers of drawing down 700 still having 2000 why we're 27 2800 agents needed. And it goes back to that cooperation. If the operation Metro surge entire point was to go after criminal illegal aliens so criminal in the aspect that they have been convicted of another crime in the United States. Not just the crime of being in the United States illegally. So I want to differentiate that because I know people tell me well it's a crime to come to the America illegally. This is in addition to them being here illegally. They have more than this is as of yesterday. They still have more than 1300 and 60 1300 and 60 active detainers for criminal illegal aliens that are in Minnesota jails. If Minnesota continued the path of letting these people out if it was a small crime or a probation violation or something that they've been convicted of or their term in jail is coming up. Then that is why they're having to then do investigations find where these people go and go on these raids to to detain them and get them out of the country. This was just Monday. Some of the individuals that were arrested by immigration enforcement on Monday. One day someone from Uzbekistan who was a known suspected terrorist. Someone from the Ukraine who has been convicted of terrorist threats domestic assault and DWI. Someone from Ecuador arrested for malicious punishment of a child child abuse. A criminal alien from Mexico convicted of child abuse. A criminal alien from Mexico convicted of domestic violence. Someone convicted of larceny convicted of drug trafficking. Someone from Cuba who is here illegally and finally someone convicted of assault from Mexico. Now once again these are not individuals that are accused of those crimes and are not getting due process for the allegation of those crimes. They are convicted in a US court of law for those crimes after being here when they weren't supposed to be. They are making those communities less safe and as Tom Homan is saying if we can do this efficiently of getting these individuals with the cooperation of the government which they have been convicted of. They are making those communities less safe and as Tom Homan is saying if we can do this efficiently of the government which they had not been doing. You don't need 2800 people to get the 1300 that remain. What you need is a very small fraction of that. He said his goal is to get back to the original footprint of ICE there. You know what that is? 150. Immigrant communities that's about right. That's his goal because if they can continue this unprecedented cooperation then they don't need the ICE army there to try and get rid of what they know of. 1300 and 60 active detainers remaining after the months of already being there with Operation Metro. I think we can play a clip here. A lot of the agents like you said are not local to the area. You are also talking about a lot of ICE agents. Of course they are doing their jobs. They are doing their jobs away from home. They are spending months away from their families. This is where it becomes a little harder for them to even balance what's going on. I think we should hear from that Tom Homan by 6. Look, we want to get back to the original footprint. The Minnesota footprint of what ICE officers look like before in this operation. Plus the additional hire is a big, beautiful bill. A lot of these people, they got agents from LA in New York and Portland. There's problems there too. So we want to get people back to home station and forced immigration laws in those areas. The vast majority of sheriffs, there's only a few that we were still in consultation with. But this is unprecedented cooperation. So again, I want to think the sheriffs, the government, the AG, I think we're in a lot better place than we've ever been. We never have this kind of cooperation at this level. And I'm not leaving until we get all done. So you sit in sort of the adults in the room and stuff can get done. And this can get this can happen once again. The governor who he's thinking there was the one going out on television saying we were at war with the federal government calling ICE agents Trump's Gestapo the rhetoric that was coming from. Yes, and that's what's so disgusting to me is that it's it's a tired phrase, but playing political chess using your people as pawns. It's what they were doing. Even the people that weren't necessarily paid activists, people that maybe genuinely are concerned about whether they're correct because they have good facts or not. But there are people that genuinely do not like what ICE is doing because of imagery they've been shown and they feel a conviction about that. And that they are being played by their governor because this is what actually could have been happening and there'd be no unrest in the street. I want to go to call. Let's go to Ann in Pennsylvania online three and thanks for holding. Hey guys, you know, once again the ACLJ is being you know, some bringing assemblings of calm. Okay, I just yes. Yeah, I love you guys. Listen, I have to say this because this is so important to me. I'm very, very stressed out. It's sort of like 2020 and 24 all over again. Some on the writer claiming that you know, home and in Trump or Caving standing down, capitulating is absolutely not the case. They are merely being is everybody sitting down everybody are you okay strategic is because what happened what happened is as a result of these two depths. Okay, there needs to be made a time to sit back take a breath. Okay, because it's the agents who are also being up there being there are the ones being abused on a daily basis or getting their fingers, but all they're getting screamed out. They're getting pushed around and told that to be in their neighborhoods and they're being abused, but I have to say this one last thing and I'm so sorry guys, but I have to say this for those in the mega media. The ice is not melting. Okay, Trump is not going back on his word. He will be deported all illegals. Now what took four years in bringing millions of the illegals into the country. They expect to get this done overnight and I'm so sick and tired of the mega media and I'm not going to mention who. Okay, going after Trump and Holman second guessing his leadership second guessing who he has appointed and they don't even have to agree with all the decisions that Trump makes, but guess what? They decided that they're the commander in chief last I checked they didn't go and campaign for years they didn't go and and you know basically you know sacrifice so much to get elected. Trump was even shot at twice they impeached him twice they bought up full charges against him now they're the ones. Oh yeah well Trump you know he's caving. You know the ice is no thing what are we going to do we're going to lose our country we're going to lose the midterms full dinky thank you for ACLJ for letting me call and rant every now and then you guys are awesome. No you are too and we like your rant and we appreciate it look I think a lot of people understand that's what makes this show a little bit different is we are not just here for your clicks we are not just going to tell you what you want to hear or allow you. You are hopefully bring some form of anger that gets you to comment more of course we want to talk to people talking to what I have conversations with you. We're going to tell you the truth we're going to be honest with you when we think things are going well when we think they're not going well you have people like Ann who call and who understand that these are new ones situations. And these are not just loud mouth headline grammars. We're going to take your calls coming up let you know we're Jordan is Jordan's actually not joining us but there's a good reason let you know we get back. Welcome back to secular sorry we were in a very important conversation doing some scientific experiments during the break. You take that from whatever you want it to me. We're going to take some calls now we got a lot of you calling in we're going to try to just go in the order they came in because a lot of you called in half an hour plus ago we appreciate it Ronald South Carolina you're up. Yes thanks for taking my call one thing I thought there was a rule in the book that said something about interference of a law enforcement officer and the performance of their duties and your subject to being arrested and things of that nature so when the citizens of Minnesota who were probably kind of a real wild up to go into interfere with the ice officers put themselves from type citizens to to law breakers and therefore subject to the penalties of being law breakers. I think those are right to life who were literally brutalized and some senior citizens who were brutalized for just wanting to protest for saving the lives of unborn children. Ronald I think you kind of made your own point there which is there are times where law enforcement gets involved incorrectly when you deal with protesters that they maybe aren't always familiar with what the rules of the laws are. Now of course there are every protestor now is going in there is a chance they end up in handcuffs we have dealt with those people like you said the pro life world for decades who have been arrested 100 plus times for this it's when it escalates beyond that but a lot of times those law enforcement agents which is I love the law enforcement got great people work here. A lot of times they don't know the rules and regulations I think that's one of the concerns that you always have with any of this we've had law enforcement injure pro life protesters. Just because they didn't fully understand the laws or again it gets heated well and also to Ronald's point I think this is actually a very good thing that the secretary gnome has put out there as well as Tom home and that they are going to be making sure that all of these agents are wearing body cams who does that traditionally help the agent. The police officer having the body cam on to be able to give full context of the entire engagement because instead of you getting a short snippet of what someone decided to share on social media and going viral there is the whole engagement because it's running the whole time and I think this is part of the problem yes there actually are and there have been instances it seems where maybe ice went too far with someone that was filming them or was following them that may not violate a law but it could be a lot of times. So it's not a law but it could be obnoxious to the law enforcement but then the people that are actually obstructing there is a difference there these also aren't the laws that ice is trained to be enforcing they are trained to be enforcing immigration laws so then it does start to get complicated confusing and then trying to make sure that they are doing the correct thing. So I think that to have as many protections for the federal law enforcement before preemptively before having to then make a case for them after the fact that when it's also based off of a short snippet on social media so I think that to that point there there could be people that are protesting that then get into a situation with ice that may go too far but vice versa as well. So I think it's a good thing to start to have more transparency and more protections for those federal law enforcement. I want to jump over to a call ACLJ champion called in today and yesterday I wanted to make sure before we took your call Cora that we had an answer to your question because I know this has been this is off topic but this has been a topic that we have been working on for years Cora go ahead and Massachusetts. Oh good afternoon you guys thank you so much I'm up other than Massachusetts obviously and I'm a Christian I'm a conservative and last spring we've been working on this. And last spring we began to see these terrible ads against pro like pregnancy centers on YouTube and things like that and I just discussed it me that my state was involved in launching that I think it was so serendipitous that you vacation in Massachusetts and you saw that it was Logan right that thought right. That's right I did I was on the streets and so you went right back and you confronted it you're with ACLJ and anyway I would just like to have an update. We're part of an interstitial for America group that prays for Massachusetts every Monday morning and I'd like to have enough information to pray intelligently is specifically. Absolutely and we appreciate your call in it. Yeah and now is actually an incredible time that you called in because we need prayer on this case right now the motion to dismiss hearing was last Thursday. But this point that is the the group the nonprofit the NGO group that was working with the state both the state and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts and that group filed motions to dismiss wanting the judge to throw this out of court. We survived it the first time but we had to start back kind of at the beginning and we had a second motion to dismiss hearing last Thursday January 29th. So now it's in the judge's hands Olivia was in Massachusetts last Thursday before that judge taking questions arguing the case of the ACLJ and now that's over. We have to wait to see what the judge does there are different angles that can come out it's not over over if the judge decides to toss the case we can then immediately go to the court of appeals. There could be a hybrid where you know the the non government group gets their case dismissed but we stay in court with the with the state or it could be the judge denies the motion to dismiss and we move on to another phase but it's so important that you and your group be praying for that judge and for this case that we will be able to move forward and continue to seek justice and to get what is is the sense of the law. The answer is is the censorship of the government using that your taxpayer dollars cori to fund this evil campaign so right now is the time to pray. We appreciate it and look I'm returning to Massachusetts this summer we love it there love all the people there same Minnesota you know these are great people as great people at every state. We got to make sure we don't demonize one area of the country let's go ahead we got two minutes two calls let's see if we can get real quick just in California go ahead. Hey thanks so much for taking my call yeah basically my comment touch question is this so I think everyone can agree like yes we should lock down the border and you did you know we everyone agrees that we should deport criminal illegal aliens that are committing crimes while they're in the US of course crossing the borders of crime itself but you know violent criminals or people convicted of crimes in the US we all get that I know we're going to agree I think there might be a missed opportunity to do that. There might be a missed opportunity here to provide a expert pathway to citizenship for immigrants or illegal immigrants who are here but they're not committing crimes they're they're not violating the law they're contributing to the economy they have hard working jobs they're good people generally and they're just here trying to make living trying to get the off the top just in a lot of people have felt that way I'd say pre president Trump that was the maybe the Republican platform not specifically but there's a lot of people who are not going to be able to do that. Specifically but there's a lot of people calling we we called for a lot immigration reform which created also pathway to citizenship I think that changed a little bit when you had such an open border issue over the last handful of years when you had the chaos it was having the border a lot of people started going whoa what's going on here this is very different than it was say 10 20 years ago candy unfortunately I don't think we're able to get to you today I really appreciate your comment if you want to call back first thing tomorrow I will get to you but unfortunately we're not going to get to you I was like to take a joke with cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering and you get that at no cost because people like you support the work of the ACLJ. 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