Jade (Classic)

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This is a great movie that we're going to talk about, and normally I will break down the film in my clever little way of telling you what it's about, but I'm going to do something I've never done before, and let an Amazon reviewer break down the film for you. This is from Juicelino Liberado Di Aquino, and it was from April 30th, 2001, and he describes the film like this, It's a nice movie. If you like basic instinct or bound, eyes wide shut, which are better, you might like this one. I love it. Basically, the plot is there are millionaires taking part in orgies and having sex, like most of us would like, but are afraid of, and then there's someone blackmailing them, and a mysterious, dishy lady called Jade, who is not afraid of exploring sex, who may or not be involved in the murder slash blackmail cases. There's great car chases, one of the best, that I've ever seen in the story is very interesting, but I warn you, if you get easily shocked or offended, you will hate it, but if you're like me, and you love to watch movies for fun, you'll like it a lot. It's also still a lot better than any porn movie, because those bore you after five minutes, and this one will not. It's not a porno. Five star review, and that is the, that gives you a taste of what Jade is. I feel like that is one of the best breakdowns of the film. Let's get into talking about it right away with, what am I called? Mr. Jason Manzookas, how are you Jason? Wow, starting with second opinions is bold. Total format shift, I mean this is some wild stuff. This was, watching this, because I remember when this movie came out, this was that era of erotic thrillers. This was, again, Joe Astrahouse, who wrote Basic Instinct. You've got William Friedkin directing, like it came from good auspices, and then even, is this the movie that David Caruso leaves NYPD blue? Is it this movie that goes to? Yes, it is this movie, and another movie called Kiss of Death, two movies back in one year. I want to break in all that, because David Caruso is in- There's so much that I, because I barely remember this movie, until I put it on, and I was like, I remember all of this movie. Wow. And I was like, this, and watching it, it felt like I, in my head, had told more of a story of what I thought this movie was than the movie does. I feel like this movie is, I feel like they shot the outline. Like, I don't feel like they wrote a full script, I feel like they shot the treatment of the movie. It's so just broad strokes. We will get into it. I want to, I don't even want to delay, and I want to bring in my other co-host, a person who said to me 15 minutes into this movie, this is my favorite movie ever. Please welcome Miss June Dianne Raefield. How are you, June? I'm doing well. How are you, Paul? I'm doing fine. Thank you for asking. I did love this movie, and I loved every second of it. And, you know, Paul and I were talking a little bit about this, and like, this is to me, this is that movie that my parents got at Blockbuster where Paul worked, and like, I was excited to see. Not the one where Paul actually worked. Not the one where Paul actually worked. Because that would be a huge reveal. No, we didn't meet there. If you guys were atriids. Yeah, exactly. But, you know, I just, as soon as it started, I was like, God, I'm having a muscle memory. Of sitting with my parents and watching like these adult dramas and thrillers. Oh, yeah. That were focused on like wealthy people and sex and power and like having to sit through sex scenes with them. And just like all of it was so familiar. And I don't think I've ever seen this movie, but I've also seen this movie many times. Yes. It's like, exactly. There's so many movies. There's another movie with like Kim Basinger and Richard Gere that takes place. Like it's always like a psychologist who's getting. Except I was just going to say it's always about like how it's very similar to Madonna and Willem Dafoe as well. That's right. Body of evidence. It's always a woman whose sexual empowerment comes also with being like a doctor or a psychiatrist or something else. But that it also has this kind of incredibly potent and power. I forget what Sharon Stone's profession is in basic instinct, but all of these Esther House movies sliver is another one. Oh, yeah, we gotta do that. They're all bananas and they are all exactly what you're saying, June. Like the incredibly wealthy, the machinations of the incredible incredibly wealthy sexually and then complete disregard for life. Eyes wide shut. Eyes wide shut was a thing about like, I feel like Kubrick took this to a level in eyes wide shut that showed like the true underbelly of it. Yes. Without romanticizing it in a way. Right. This makes murder sexy, right? Yes. Like it is like part of the thing in the way this movie ends is so bananas. I want to work towards it, but I will say like I took note of one thing that really made me laugh. Like, you know, remember Jersey Shore? It was like Jim Tan laundry. Like here it was GCR Gala church racquetball. And I felt like those three scenes back to back to back was like, what? Okay, this is such a movie for for middle aged parents or adults in the 90s. It's like you're going to church, you're getting dressed in the tux, you're going to play racquet like it just hit every little thing that was like, yes, I want to be doing aspirational. Yes. It's all it's all aspirational in the sense of like everybody. There's also like it. It also establishes what all of these movies do, which is an incredibly enormous scope, but incredibly small number of overlapping people. So like this is a movie that takes place in the halls of justice, lawyers, judges, etc. The police department, the governor's office, all of these what? The museum, all of these wild the district attorney's office. I thought David Caruso was a cop for most of it. And then I was like, wait, no, he's the DA. Wait, wait, wait, wait, what? Yes. David Caruso. I thought he wants to be the cop. He is a district attorney. I knew he's. Wait, he passed a bar exam at some point. He is a lawyer. Remember, Chaz Pumentary is like, when you're ready to hang it up, come and be a partner at my law firm. I did hear that. I did hear a lot of talk of like the next election and all that, but I guess I didn't believe it. Well, that's when I wrote in my notes. I was like, wait a minute, is Caruso's cop a lawyer? And then I was like, oh, no, he's not a cop. But he's there. They're conflating what they do is. Esther, what Esther does is he takes all the players from all these disparate elements and he just is always putting them in the same room. So they all know each other. They're all friends. It's the eight of the bonkers that David Caruso in this film, whether it's, I mean, as he's a DA, he runs, he runs investigations like a straight up cop, which by the way, he's in multiple car chasing. Do lawyers show up at crime scenes? No. Okay. I mean, he flashed a badge when he went into that first murder scene. He pulled out his wallet and goes like, here's that. And he goes, I'm not here. I mean, it makes sense because he's open to being wrong. But let me write, Jason, you're right. I mean, I believe that you're right because Donna Murphy, Donna Murphy, the plot, Wikipedia, San Francisco Assistant District Attorney David Corelli, Caruso is called to the murder scene, blah, blah, blah. So yes, he is trying to be the DA. And that's what the governor, Richard Crenna, who is great in this role. Great. But he is with this movie. Chomp, chomp, chomp. Everybody's chewing the scene in this movie. I mean, the MVP to me and I'm really, I think I know his name is Ken King, who plays P.D. Vesco, who is the older, like the Wilfred Brimley cop. We have the Ted Lasso cop, who's Michael Bean, who is great. Michael Bean. I love Michael Bean. And we have Ken, we have Ken or whatever, Ken King, who is just a joy to watch. Like he does not fit the mold of the... He looks like he's in a Chicago, he's like a Chicago cop. You know, he looks... He's so perfect. He, everybody's great. And I cannot stress enough that my profound attraction at the time to Linda Fiorentino... Oh, come on. You can't even... I'm not going to give a deduction to this. She was, she is so good. She's so sexy and so compelling as the femme fatale. Or in this case, what you perceive to be the femme fatale. Yeah, not the femme fatale turned out. No, no, but is also crushing it in this movie. Well, listen, I watched this movie with Paul, who felt similarly to the point where I was like, I was having the same flashbacks of watching these sex scenes with my parents, watching them with him. And it was, it was like, actually, I was like uncomfortable. And then at one point, he fell asleep and he was, he fell asleep and then he woke up and he's like, there's not enough sex in this movie. And I was like, didn't you just see that sex scene where like she's literally, yeah, someone's go, a person we've never seen before going down on her and she's standing up. But it was crazy. I'm like, did you not just see that? And he was like, oh, I fell asleep. He was so mad. I have an update, guys. I have an update. I just opened that Wikipedia to read that line to you. And I noticed there is a director's cut of this movie that is NC 17. Oh, boy. Yes. So why didn't we watch that cut? Well, it's unavailable. That cut is unavailable because it actually did worse than the regular DVD cut. So there is a time, and I remember this again, and we have talked about this in previous laser disc conversations where there was a big market for like NC 17 cuts like the getaway with Kim Basinger and Alec Baldwin. Like you almost you saw Henry and June. Like you people were like, but they were taking our movies and making them hotter, like our, you know, sexier. And it was on on VHS. And this is a movie where I guess from what I read, it was really the sex tape is where there's 10 minutes of more sex footage. And people also say it has an alternate ending. And people also say that it makes the plot make sense. All these things. Oh, all these things are up in the air because I want to just maybe start off with the thing that's the most disturbing to me about all of this, which is one of the small details that gets lost in the sea of shit. This movie was produced by Robert Evans. Oh, yeah. So Robert Evans, a famous Hollywood producer, godfather, you know, but I believe the exorcist too, maybe I'm wrong, but a prolific Paramount producer. The kid stays in the picture is his autobiography and the documentary about him. Like if you have not seen it, the kids, the documentary get involved because he is like a key figure in 1970s filmmaking. And so one of the rumors I knew about Robert Evans, and I've heard many was that my friend was working on a script with Robert Evans and he had a bureau and on top of the bureau were little lockets filled with women's pubic hair. And when this movie delivers that as one of the first plot points of the film, I was like, oh, like there's Robert Evans going, you know, it will be interesting. Because if he hang on, Paul, do you not have one of those? That made me sick. That honestly made me feel the fact that they were all on just a side table. They were out for display. It's not like a secret drawer. It's not an anything. It's just they're out at a side table next to like a radio. They're just sitting there and there was so much of it. There was so much. So many different colors. And there was like it also could. I mean, I know it was a I know it was a different time, but there was a volume in each of those silver boxes because they're not lockets, Paul. They're boxes and they're little like pill boxes. They're a little exactly pill boxes or snuff boxes or something like that. They're each engraved and they are chock full of pubes. They are like stop. It's like you open it. It's like a condition and they're fluffy. It's like the snakes in a can joke in that you open it and people explode. I was going to say it's like opening up. I genuinely feel sick. I genuinely feel sick right now. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. All right. I don't want to make June vomit. So I just want to say one thing and say this. Why was that introduced when it played no part in the film at all? Like all they need to do is DNA test or it didn't play a part. I mean, I guess it's only plays a part to say that perversion or kink. I don't want to proceed. Yeah, I know this movie. I can't stress enough. I don't know if you guys remember this. How much this movie was represented in its promotion and its reception as like too sexy. Right. Like too. It was it was the movie that people were like now this has gone too far. The basic instincts, the kind of sexual erotic thrillers. They were like this is because it was all of this kinky sex like kinky sex like guys going down on women. Can you imagine or how about when that one woman just goes up to Chaz Pumentary and just whips out his dick and just starts going to town. That's the same woman movies of this time. Yeah, like a guy in a suit. Like I'm still having to like unlearn some things because that's all that's what I watch with my parents over and over was like June. I'm sorry. Oh yeah, you were like Pavlovian condition. That was my first experience of like what a woman's sexuality was was seeing multiple women in movies like this. Just give blowjobs like immediately. How sex works is if a man is in pleated pants. And he walks up to you crotch to eye level like you must you have no choice. You must start sucking his dick immediately. Nothing else can happen but that. Yeah. I mean it's crazy. That scene is in every movie of this time. It really is. It is a but that is all of those scenes are just like these men are so powerful or wealthy or whatever that that they don't even have to engage in flirting pleasantries and the four play anything. It is just transactional. They are just they just get to exactly what the Amazon review kind of said that that it's just it just happens for them. The kind of sex we all dream about the kind of sex you don't have to work for. You know. Yeah. Well this now I'm genuinely recovering from that pube discussion because. You want to hear a specific. No I don't. I will say I also have a strong stomach like I'm not somebody who feels I don't have a weak stomach. I can just press play right now and you know that made me feel like when company is over. Do you think he that do you think he puts those little little boxes away or are those like a conversation to those are those a convert those like a conversation. Like do you feel like if he Marie condoed his apartment his house like everything else would go but the boxes because they bring joy. This what I was going to say to move off of this is this movie has something I've never seen. There's a lot that I again I both had never seen this movie before and I've seen this movie many times. But there was something that was brand new and I think has never happened in any movie ever that's ever been made in the history of cinema and that is to red headed people in a scene together. Oh yeah. You're talking about the double ginger. I have never it was so shocking. Yeah that's called a double ginger and it's considered together. This is you know for a long time people thought that you couldn't do it because the people wouldn't watch it and this movie proved them right. Well I mean normally you're just going to do a man woman scene or a man man scene. Oh boy. Ginger ginger ginger scene is by the way his hair is so ginger and I've forgotten about it. Oh these two are full blown ginger. And I want to say this about ginger representation like I actually left this movie thinking like wow ginger's are underrepresented in film and TV and I agree because I was so stunned to see it that it made me you know it made me really think about how there's not a lot of ginger out there. I agree and I'm not making fun of ginger. I think that was just an intense thing and I think what makes it more intense is the way that they dress David Caruso which was green on green on green green like green. Constantly green turtle neck. Why was he why was his suit three shades of green. It was like green tie green suit. It was as if he said to when he went in for his wardrobe fitting he was like my actor's secret is that I'm a leprechaun. I just I just want to hint at that. No one no one no one fully looks comfortable in their clothes. I know that it's the 90s and whatever but Chas Palmenteri I would be like has he ever worn a super. It didn't look like they didn't feel like the clothes like it felt like the clothes were rebelling against the people except for Linda Fiorantino and Angie Everhart. They look fantastic. You cannot cast Chas Palmenteri in a movie and have anybody believe he's not the bad guy. Well I mean Paul did not think he was the bad guy and I called it pretty early on. What. Oh come on. No that's impot it is the minute in the minute you make that casting decision you're like obviously that's the villain. But you know what I felt like he was doing I felt like because he just did the Bronx Tale which this movie comes out the same year he's nominated for that. I felt like he's like I'm changing it up. I am now a high class lawyer. I'm smooth. I'm so fit like because he had the work I'm working with Friedkin like I mean like you cannot underestimate at this point. William Friedkin is you know still riding out. I mean not riding high exactly but he is still one of the you know well regarded directors of his time. You wouldn't. Yeah. You wouldn't know it from this is the man who did the car chase in the French connection that is widely regarded as that and bullet are the which he didn't do but the are like the car. The the car chases of the modern era. Yeah. Chases in this movie are terrible terrible. I mean the cars are launching at such a rate that it felt like someone is rocket launching them like they're flying over the hill. China sequence was a comedy. It was hilarious. So much. Oh Ellen. So much disregard for human life in the car chase. So many more people died during the car chases then died because of the sex scandal. Oh absolutely. That car chase but why would you ever drive into a full on parade and keep on drive. It seemed as if David Cruz if he got out of his car he would make more headway than he did and the car chase it shot so weird that the POV sometimes is the hood of the car and you saw it like break a vase and like knock over like a Buddha statue. It's like what the fuck am I watching. Didn't we do another movie where Andy Garcia is a lawyer who's also representing his ex girlfriend or is trying to go against his ex. Didn't we do another. He would have been great in that part. By the way Andy Garcia in in either of these parts by the way I would have taken Andy Garcia in either role. Frankly I recently rewatched the Godfather 3 and he is actually very very good in it. They did the director. Did you watch the new cut the new cut and it's actually it is for a flawed movie. It's a better version of the flawed movie. Okay. I actually think it's more enjoyable. Okay. Breakups that is a tricky one. That's why EE is the only major provider who give you up to 300 pounds to switch. You'll get full fiber but you'll also get EE's most powerful Wi-Fi 7 as standard. So the whole house can do more like streaming that series. Watch to work calls stay crystal clear. Switch to EE today. Up to 300 pounds credited to your EE account verify at EE.cuddy.cash claims new BT group customers only 62% availability terms apply. He left NYPD blue like Jason alluded to to do this film and he did two films back to back and coming off the hot hot. You know. You cannot underestimate how enormous NYPD blue was as a launching pad. And the fact that he then very cockily was like see you later turkeys and then just crashed and burned next thing you know CSI Miami. By the way do you know that free kid wanted Warren Beatty to be David Crowley which actually to me would lend a level of gravitas to it in a way like I feel like that's kind of like the womb the foe. Like I feel like in a weird way David Crusoe looked a little bit too young to the only person who is correctly cast in this movie is Linda Fier of the main cast is Linda Fier and wait but hold on. And the governor the governor but then the rest of the I'm saying of the man of the man he was fantastic. Sure. And I thought Michael Bean was great. So we're just saying of the three great great great people. I'm simply just saying of the trio of the main cast Linda Fier to David Crusoe and Chas Pelletieri I think are miscast. Yes. I totally agree. I mean why did ultimately so. OK. First of all let's talk about Linda's character for a second. Why is is she her her her scholarship and area of like academics seems to be that she's studying violence in the workplace. She's studying exactly what her husband is suffering from because but she says at that lobby conference that she does that she's in a place that's used for an airport in L.A. Like that place. Right. I thought she was introduced as somebody who studies violence in the workplace. Yes. I was also right. Yes. In the workplace a thing. Right. I know in the postal system but yeah. Everywhere. No no no for sure. You're absolutely right. And she's she talks about it as if it is like it's happening here in every word epidemic as if you would give us a corporation like a sexual harassment seminar or safety in the workplace seminar. She's giving one about people who the frequent occurrence of people flying into blind rages and everyone is in a suit. So this is a high profile. Like this is like this is like a high level company and she's getting a private jet to go there. So I didn't know if that was her own private jet or the company's private. Well that's a good question. But then also she seems to be a an art curator. So seemingly. Yes. Now is that just like oh I have this job but I'm also on the board because she's on the board of the museum. And that's why she's talking to the guy that was murdered. But that seems to be on the board. Like are you bringing collections. Well it seems to be that she was responsible for like curating like all the fertility masks and like specific pieces. Oh my God. The wait we have to talk about the opening of this this way. I have so many issues with the lead character who we never meet. And I want to just call out somebody that no one's going to give any credit to which is the person who did Photoshop in this film. It is the best Photoshop. Jason and I talked about this. It's terrible Wonder Woman here the Photoshop looks it looks like he is with Reagan. It looks like he is with Nixon. Great Photoshop even with the David Caruso Photoshop later on. It's not bad. And for a movie that came out so long ago not bad at all. So you're going through this house and it's I think pretty atrociously appointed it very you know it has a very Asian theme to it. Like it's like a general Asia right. I feel like there's like there's a lot of these cabinets. Like my mom would get an R house. We had a lot of these same cabinets that were like Asia influence but I don't you know but you got them at like pure one. And you're going up the stairs and you're hearing like this muffled talking bird and then the music. If you have closed captioning on you can hear what it says what's being said. Oh what were they saying anything worth it's all like general like what are you doing here. Get out of here. You know it's it's those kind of exclamation. It's not it doesn't give you pertinent information or anything. So as you're hearing that muffled thing the music crescendos so high like on this on this fertility mask which plays no part in the entire film. Nor does it crescendo with the scene that just keeps on going on. I'm like what is happening here. Like who chose a musical like you do it when you seem dead. Yeah they do a thing in this movie which is to create a sense of like things are weird here by incorporating a ton of like man like the art collection of this man who is the murder victim that is the catalyst for the movie. His art collection is like rare artifacts and masks from all over the world. So he's like appropriating all of these like tribal masks and and so the walls are decorated with these men. I can just feel like I can see Fred can be like I want masks everywhere. I want I want to feel like everybody's watching because that's what this movie is about is people watching people fuck and die and those are the eyes and the masks are watching. They know what's going on. But to its point the masks never play a role. I was thinking yes. No we're going to see a sex scene with those masks on. They're like oh who's behind it. We don't know. Oh that's just what you wanted. You invented that. By the way June asked a question that I fell asleep for but then I rewatched it last night after she went to bed and I was like why was Linda Fiorintino wearing the stocking over her face. I wrote that down too. Okay yeah I don't understand. Is that a sexual thing? What I asked you you immediately said because it's sexy. No I was joking because I woke up and I didn't see. I thought you was breaking into a house and I thought you was breaking into a house and that's stocking on her. I felt like on the day they were like I don't know what if you put some pantyhose over your face. Like it felt like maybe maybe this is something people do during sex. Yeah it was like I don't understand. It was like we want to show something very sexy but we don't we can't show a lot of the things. Oh my god I loved the crime scene walk through where all the sex toys and everything are out and our favorite policeman is like get a load of this. This is the inflatable sex pill. It looks like an inflatable neck pillow and he's reading the description. There's so many instructions on that. So many instructions that he's reading off of the pillow itself. Hey number one I'm not touching that pillow. Oh he's got it. It's fully inflated also it has just been inflated which must mean it was just used. So why is he handling it so casually. And why is it still does it. But bugs on the pillow. I mean it's literally it's an advertisement for the pillow on the box. Deep seated massage oil. And over here we have a harmony pillow. This pillow allows deeper penetration by positioning both partners most advantageously. It raises the female hips facilitating male entry. You can inflate the pillow to varying degrees of hardness or softness while enjoying the thrill of rotary and floating action. It's not in the box he's reading it. No he's reading it off of the pillow itself. I know I'm saying but he is reading what you would put on the box. Oh yeah. It's like printed on the. I do feel like for that kind of stuff you want it like if someone walks in you want it to look like it could just be a part of your decor. It also is like and I wonder if you. Just. June in your. It was pretty small. Yeah the version of you watching it with your parents and so forth. Like that guy when they first enter the room he grabs like a little bottle and he says like blah blah blah scented massage oil. As if like as if that's the most insane thing you could consider. Oh you know it's like lube or massage oil being yes. Dairy sex is is like perversion guys. They literally are in a room full of veiny dildos and they look at this pillow that is and I know I'm saying pillow wrong. That's my one thing to worry about it. It's it's hard for me to have to think about that word pillow. But pillow he's holding a. Wait wait wait wait you guys. How are you wrong. I say pillow. I say pillow because we're both from one island. That's why. Yeah. I didn't notice. I say I say I say worry wrong. Okay. Say it again. I don't know. Worry I'm worried about it. Yeah you say that wrong. Yeah. But I also say hot dog. Oh that first of all. I've never say that. And popcorn. Okay. I'm so sad. That is those are amazing. Which are also apparently wrong. All right. So again just to get back to this scene because there's so much unpack in this in this house. This this pillow pillow is so small and it seems so like honestly not even that sexual. It's like oh so I guess you could put that underneath your back. There's a really funny. No you put it. You know you don't. Oh wait. Hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on. You know. I like you. You know it's not a you don't bring it on an airplane. It's not a neck pillow. No no no no what I'm saying is that I don't want to be. I'm saying that you could you can use it in many different ways like you could put it underneath your hips so your hips are higher so you could have a different entry point. You could put it. No. You put it. He describes it. Babe you lie over it. He reads the instructions. I'm just saying. Your ass is up. But yes. Okay. Okay. We're saying the same thing. But I also think that you could. I think you could also be laying on your back and put it underneath your your the small of your back and launch your back because I think it has multiple purposes. Look. Holy shit. How would you to V that goes up like no it was multiple folks. Oh my god. There was a great bit in a burn after reading about like those sex pillows that like George Clooney has. It's like these big sex blocks like that. That's the sex. That's the fuck machine. No no that was like didn't he have like those big it almost looked like to me you would see the gymnastics like place. It's like big cubes and stuff like that. He builds that he builds that thing that you can sit on and that and and when you ride it right. The dildo comes out the middle so you it's a fuck machine. Okay well all right so anyway I just thought like I guess it's my understanding of it. You're right about pot and maybe we I think it is. I thought the width of it was very small like it looks small. It's for a smaller frame. It looked like it'll be honest. It looked like a travel pillow. You know it looks like an inflatable travel pillow. It wasn't like I guess what I'm saying is it wasn't like ooh what are they doing. It's like oh yeah it's just so she can get fucked. Here's my thing. Here's my my thing is here's what's the deal. I call me crazy but if you need to raise someone's pelvis up use a pillow. Right. Like a pillow that's on the bed. But you don't want to get that stuff on there. You don't want to get that junk on the pillow. Why do you need to go and inflate the it's cheap looking the inflatable sex pillow. That's I think you're right about that. I think if you were to create something and listen I don't know where a merch is at. If we want to get in the fucking game. Get in it. Holy shit. Holy shit. T-public. T-public. slash htdgm slash fuck pillow. That's it. We're putting them out. I do think it could be. I think it could be great if it were more if it had more like weight to it. Like it was like a temper. It was like a temper. It was like a temper. It was like a temper. Material so that you felt like it could really take a lot of punishing but give you support. I'm drawing a picture of this for you now because I believe that. I believe that if. Okay. Hold on. Okay. We gotta see if T-public or who would we if we have to go outside of T-public to manufacture how did this get made branded fuck pillows will do it. All right. We just need to figure out what the design. I don't know if you can see this. It may not show up. You see this? Yes. OK. This is a t-shirt. This is a t-shirt. Send this to whoever immediately. This is the t-shirt. I'm confused, though. Which is the pillow? The pillow and the leg. The mistake you made, Paul. Wait, Paul. Stop. Keep that so it can be the t-shirt. Don't alter that drawing. I can get it back. I can get it back. Oh, my god. But that just gives you a little bit more of a. Oh. No. It's insane. Because we. Wait a minute. This is so weird. Wait a second. Wait a second. What is the f- Paul is. Paul is drawing a stick figure couple having sex. Which way is the prone person facing? So this is missionary. This is missionary. Yes, this is missionary, but the hips are higher. The hips. But why are the legs going straight out? Like the point of the pillow is for it to lift your hips up. Up. Yeah. The hips are up because if she was down, her butt would be on the bed. But why are her legs flying straight out? Her legs seem to be. They need to be held aloft. Yeah. Well, he's holding her legs. He's holding her leg right there. Why? It looks like her legs need like stirrups. Is this an OBGYN appointment? Is she getting a pap smear? What's happening? I just think that if you put the if you put the cube as a triangle underneath the small of your back, you're lifting up. Here's what I'll say. I agree. I agree with you, Paul. I think the pillow can be used. Thank you. Either underneath you face down if you're the woman face down or face up. It's it really is just to lift your hips, your pelvic area higher. I think that's it on either side. But your drawing needs to be a t-shirt. I cannot. OK. This might be the first out of this get me a t-shirt I buy. Holy shit. The first stick drawing you drew was next level. OK, I will just do that. And I will. Holy shit. I can recreate it very simply. Oh, my God. They didn't even have a head. The guy didn't even have a head. OK, but holy shit. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. If we're going to make this pillow, then we need. I think it needs to be because the one in the movie had like, didn't it have like a hollow center? Well, yeah, the one in the movie, yes. And it also had a hinge. Yeah, that's the thing that George Clooney hasn't burned after reading. OK, this because this needs to be a solid, like a dense material. It's got to be temporary. I think. We got to talk to her memory. Oh, memory. Oh, this is what we can do. We can partner. I'm sure as a podcast, we have partnerships with one of these dumb memory foam companies, Casper. By the way, I'm just showing you. I'm by the way, I'm showing you guys put us in touch. I'm showing you this sex pillow that was in burn after reading. Yeah, that's right. That's that's it. It looks like also the same type of thing. They yeah, that's what I'm just like a wedge. That's a workout. Like, yeah, that's what I was saying. That's what I remember it as being like a wedge. But now now Google. I mean, if there are this, the sex pillow from this movie, Jade, I love that your Google search was George Clooney's pillow. Well, like, no, don't do Jade or I guess. Just Jade. Well, this is it. This is it. Like this one looks about right. This one looks about like, I mean, look, Jade is not going to we've advanced in technology, but that about the movie sex pillow. OK, Jade movie sex pillow, because it looked like an inflatable. I have the clip. I have the clip I can play right here. I mean, we all remember what it looked like. It looked inflatable. It looked like it had one of those little plastic mizzy blow up. Yeah, it looks like an inflatable like Ames chair or something like that. Like a small version of it. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. By the way, do not Google Jade movie sex pillow. Yeah, it really is opening up a lot. Unless unless you want some very intense results. I will say this, that in a house where there is so much stuff going on, the fact they point out massage oil, a pretty innocuous pillow, and then a California pizza or Wolfgang Puck pizza, like a frozen pizza. So hard. Oh, we got to just. We got to play. We got to play David Caruso just when he realizes what he's in and when he sees the pizza. Crystal, Beluga, Wolfgang Puck. It's a fuckhouse. It's not just a fuckhouse. He's got a nice little camera over here. And there's another one up here. Low light, high density. Next door neighbor says he saw a lot of women come over here. Hey, did you check out these jam and jellies and clitorifics? I was thinking about you. Honey, if I were you, I'd rip off a few of those butt plugs. They're designed for the perfect asshole. I mean, that that when he his realization. Well, it's also like this is a movie that really is it's trying to give you access to like the mega wealthy. Right. Right. And the mega wealthy are so wealthy that when they go to have their affairs, they have a fuckhouse on the coast that in the bedroom, you know how opulent they are in the bedroom is a mini fridge, question mark, full of champagne, caviar and Wolfgang Puck frozen. But you would have to go to the kitchen to make it. You would have to go to the kitchen. They like, I thought you can't just like caviar again. But like, you'd have to be like, oh, I keep the I keep the sex pizza in here. Darling, can I get you some champagne? Perhaps I can go heat up a pizza. It's like, what? Because that's always a thing that maybe maybe some chocolate. Maybe some need snacks after, you know, hey, I have no problem with snacks. We saw it in that movie with Kevin with with Alec Baldwin, where they're like nakedly eating like Doritos after sex was so bizarre that that addicted to love movie. I think if you're going to a fuckhouse, then you're exerting a lot of energy and a lot of calories and you might need to sustain yourself. So I actually appreciated that there was a pizza there. I agree 100 percent. I just think the pizza could have been in the freezer of the kitchen fridge, not in the bedroom. You got to bring it. Say what you're saying. Yeah, unless it's an oven in the kitchen. My problem is like the caviar, the champagne, these are bedroom things. If there was chocolate, dip, strawberries or the things that can note like sex or whatever. But this is to me like, darling, some champagne, perhaps some caviar. If you want, I have a Wolfgang. Pepper, peppers and sausage. I can go by the way, can we just talk about the perv next door? The perv next door. I felt badly for that guy. He both he wasn't pervy enough that it was comfortable for me. Like I would have rather like a full perv next door. No, he was like this was a perv. Kindly gentlemen who was also clearly a perv. And I was like, oh, this is this actually too real. But by the way, we all are that person, I would imagine. Like if you lived on the coast and and there was like a lot of weird activity going on at night, you'd probably take out, you know, you'd probably take out some binoculars and go, what's going on? But I guess he went one extra step because he could identify the faces of everyone. Yeah, he was he was pretty dialed into what was going on. That guy, you know, he's like, I since I retired, this is pretty much all I do. But remember, this is an era when we didn't have Netflix or streaming services. So like one of the one of the other neighbors to watch. You were the only thing to watch at night was your neighbors. But I watched and when in my old New York apartment, the apartment building across the street was a bevy of personal dramas. Oh, wow, that's so fun. I've never had that. Oh my God. My quick I have a real question for you guys. OK. So why was Linda Fiorentino's character, who is a doctor, who is engaged in philanthropic elements is on the board at the museum, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Why is she involved in this sexual? I'm not asking why does she have sex with I have I have an actual real answer why is she being used by the dead man almost as if she works for him? Well, I have an answer to she seems to be a sex worker. The same way that Angie Everhart seems to be. But but they don't seem to be in equal status at all. And I didn't understand. So here's the issue. Hesterhouse writes this script and and they offer it to Linda Fiorentino, who's coming off last seduction. And she's like, I don't want to play a sex worker in this film. And Friedkin goes, don't worry, I'll rewrite it for you. And changes a couple of pieces. Now, apparently, according to Michael, Michael Bean, he said that the script made no sense at any point. Like he's at the table read. He was like, I'm the villain. You know, so I guess Friedkin just kind of came in and changed it all. But when I realized that I was like, oh, it makes so much more sense. It's written that she is also a sex worker. Yeah, because that made that would make sense. Because what I couldn't figure if it was just she led this secret double life. Fine. But why is she doing the bidding? To me, it's like Chaz Palmetieri is a guy who gets attached to her. And then he starts to or, you know, or some version of that. Like there is some it just it. And that's why her profession is bizarre and it's she. Because the dead man, right? The dead man, the reason he's filming all this stuff is so that he has blackmail material on all the most powerful men. Right. And she is the most sought after of the women that the powerful men want to have sex with. So she features prominently in all this. But even Jason's question is an answer, though, because even in her appetite, she has no idea this is she. If we are to believe her, which I actually do, she doesn't know she's being filmed. She I think she just thinks she enjoys the sex. Well, that's I think what I think that that's what her. I think that she says at least I think what this movie does unsuccessfully is just say like, oh, so she cheated on her husband once and she's like, oh, I had such a boring sex with my husband that now I would like to find more exciting things. So I guess she says to the heart dealer like, hey, do you have any friends that maybe I could also we also I don't think that's the case. The old guy, she did. She did. That's something she and that's where I get confused with Jade, because I'm like, I understand why she's not satisfied with Chas. And I get by the way, that is so upsetting. So he is hard without any foreplay and she cries. And he also is making sounds of a cry like he's like, he's like he's like making McGroober level sex sounds. But like. I mean, here is Angie Everhart talking about why she is special. I'd go to the Pacifica House and a guy would come in and we'd spend the night. They wouldn't know who I was and I didn't know them. You know, a couple of those creeps, they didn't even want me. They wanted this other girl that they'd fucked before. They called her Jade. One of those guys was the governor. And Jade must have rocked his world because he wanted me to bend over and turn around. But I don't take it that way. He told me that Jade, she took it anyway. She couldn't get enough of it. She loved it. I started once leaving Kyle's house. She had long, beautiful hair and great legs. I think it was her. I never met her. I'd like to, though. I'm into women mostly. But again, Jason, to your point, it doesn't really. Really? Why would you fuck that old guy then? If that's what she wants. But why wasn't she bringing this into her married life? Well, I think that was a lost cause, babe. She also used to date Caruso. Right. And they have a pseudo sex scene that is aborted because he kind of rejects her. Because he says you killed this guy. But Chaz tells Caruso. And there's so many weird things here. Because Caruso loves Linda Fiorentino. And Chaz, Pomontary, knows that. And he's like, well, maybe I'll get a divorce. And like they have this like weird jockeying for like, you want to fuck my wife? And she's like, and he's like, and they know it. And it's weird. But she told him. So Linda Fiorentino told Chaz Pomontary she left Caruso because he's a bad lover. Then went to Chaz Pomontary. Weird. What? When did that happen? That's in the locker room of the racquetball scene. He goes, you know, you know why she left you? She said, you're a bad lover. And he goes, why would she tell you that? And he's like, she tells me everything. I'm sorry. Hang on. Paul. Yeah. I think that's the statement of the villain. I think I don't necessarily. I don't think you should trust. I think you should assume everything Chaz Pomontary is saying is meant to further his villainous. He's trying to he's trying to make David Caruso think Linda Fiorentino did it. But OK, so like seating, he's seating it early on. OK. And then the other woman seems to have an active sex life with these other women. The other woman seems incredibly drawn to him. So I don't understand. Well, also, I believe that blonde, the blonde who blows him on the terrace. Yeah. I believe works in Caruso's office. No, she works for Chaz. She's his secretary. Oh, really? It's not the same woman who comes up to him in the police station in the district attorney's office and says Angie Everhart will meet you at this restaurant at Blankin Blacock. No, because when David Caruso goes to see Chaz, he she lets him in. Oh, OK. I didn't clock that. Right. Yeah. I thought she was part of the other. No, that would be a really small world. This relationship. That's one of the reasons I kept thinking like it's like it's only 12 people in this entire structure of, you know, the courts, the police, the governor, the everybody is access to everybody. The fact that he's an assistant to traveling with cops and then interrogating her in all these weird basements. I mean, they have more offices in this movie. The cops go to a different office every single day in the basement. They're in a shooting gallery. They're in like a file office. Like they are setting up shops. Do you remember when Angie Everhart's character is in the witness interrogation room and there is a window in the room, not a glass, not a mirror, two-way mirror, a window on the other side of the window is the firing range for the police department. So like those two rooms are just next to each other. You can watch people practice shooting before they go in and do an interrogation. I was confounded by that. I was confounded too. Did they rough her up before she came in because? Well, no, she fell down those stairs. I know she fell down the stairs. Or maybe Caruso tackles her down the stairs. I know she fell down the stairs, but she seems the way she plays that and is touching her bruises and everything, it seems like something else happened in between the time that we saw her last. But here's my question on her. Why does she, why does Chas kill her? Why? Because she could identify. Or did he, or was that the governor? Oh, well, I think the governor sent his people out to get. Wait a second. Yeah. I think the people, I think the people that killed Angie are Michael Bean. Yes. And that's his name. The guy. Because they're breaking into the house. They're breaking into the house at the end for the governor. It has happened again, this group of seven people that travel around. Because they, they like they're doing their own thing that's on. Because basically Chas Pimentieri is only killing. It only is killing people that are involved with Jay. Like he doesn't care. Which is really what's his. So how many people have, has he killed Chas? Two. Three. Oh, two. Two. He's killed. Maria. And the perv. No, he killed the old man in the perv. No, no. Yes. Exactly. The old man, the old, the old, the art dealer who is, who is by the way, like a Halloween Horror Night. The original. Halloween Horror Nights is like, that was crucified on the wall. Like I was like, this is the weird, like, and they go, it's a crime of passion. It's not a crime of passion. That is an intentional, like you crucified a man on the wall. That was, that visual was wide. That was a very upsetting. I was like, this is, you know, it would take a tremendous amount of time and effort. That was like a seven, like the movie seven level death scene. By the way, I'm sticking with that. Yeah, you'd need a Wolfgang puck pizza right after. Oh, you need to crush, you need to crush a puck as I like to say. Maybe you need to just pop up in one of those canisters and take a whiff of some of that pubic hair just to get you back in. I will tell you this. I was like, this movie feels like it is written by like a horny, like it's written by like a horny kid who only like understands the missionary positions and then is like, what if you could do all this? And I feel like everybody who goes like every parent went home. Well, that's how I feel about all of, yeah, that's how I felt about all of Bridgerton. I feel like all of Bridgerton was written by 11 year olds who'd only heard a little bit about sex, but we're like, I think it's like this. And then they write it because all of the characters in Bridgerton are so ill informed about sex for such horny people. It is not. Have I watched every episode? Yes, I have. I was surprised like after, after seeing those two gingers in a scene together, like I was surprised looking back at that pubes scene that there weren't any ginger pubes. There must have been. Well, there weren't any that we saw. We didn't see Angie. I guess maybe he didn't sleep. Although when we see Angie ever hurt on the on the autopsy table, she doesn't have any cubes. So perhaps that's why I mean, maybe, you know what, maybe we need to go back to the establishing shot of the side table. Interesting about that because I noticed that too. And the governor actually refers to her Harry pussy. I don't remember that. I'm so sorry. Clean it up. Clean it up. That's what he said. I'm cleaning it up. Clean it. All right. So just for that, we're going to play that clip of the pubic here right now. If you drag me into this business, David, if my name even shows up on the periphery of this, David, you better get the fuck out of the state of California because you'll have as much of a future here as Jerry Brown. It was Jerry Brown. Wouldn't just be an awful goddamn shame if one Harry little pussy and a thimble full of sperm would affect the future of this great state of ours. Was Medford blackmailing you? I don't get blackmail, Mr. Grilly. I do the fucking. I never get fucked. No, no, no, no. It was so upsetting that I remembered it. And then, and so then when we see her naked on the, on the examining table, I was like, oh, where are her pubes? And then I thought, well, maybe the autopsy procedure shaves them off. No, no. I don't know. Maybe she didn't know. No, like I know, like with vaginal birth deliveries that they don't even use to shave women's. Do you think they do that to give to the family? Like instead of ashes, like instead of creamated, you can't fuck. Here are her ashes and here are her pubes. Well, here's the thing. You have to pay for the urn and you have to pay for the silver box. I did hear that Angie Everhart did go method with this, but did not want to do a nude scene. So that is a body double. So if it was Angie Everhart, it would have been correct. The body double did not do the work that she did, like the Robert De Niro of gaining a lot of weight. I will say that I do love the governor. Are you saying Angie Everhart gained a lot of weight for this role? She looks great. Like getting into, getting into the character. Yes. The governor does say some things where I'm like, like he, I love Richard Crenna in this movie, like the one day that he shot on this movie to get the end, Richard Crenna, but they, the, when he's interviewing David Crusoe, the blocking this movie is so terrible. It's like so specific and weird and stilted like a Broadway show. And like, as if you don't have a camera. And when he gives this monologue to David Crusoe, I don't fuck. I get fucked. I'm like, I was like, like, No, you're saying I don't get fucked. Oh yeah. He goes, I never, I do the fucking. All right. So yeah. So whatever that clip is, I do the fucking. I don't get, there is so much setup. But I mean, but it is like, it is a weird thing. Cause I felt like, is he flirting with David Crusoe now too? Like, yeah. No, I felt that too. There was a certain energy of like, I thought in that moment, I hear what you're saying, Paul, like he was saying he was going to fuck him. And I was like, Oh, even just to humiliate him, he would do that. Like, you know, like, oh, I see. Like, yeah, yeah. Just to, just to, just to humble him. Just to show him he could. Like I have the power to do that. Well, it is. This is another one of those movies from the like the 80s and 90s in which people in power have a level of power that is so great. They can just assassin. They can just make people disappear constantly. Well, listen, I mean, I just watched the Jeffrey Epstein documentary on Netflix. There are still a great Jason. I agree that like there, that this was sort of a trope of the time where like the governor or senators could get, you know, there were no systems of checks and balances. But do you think of Jeffrey Epstein and what happened there and why he's not serving time in a small box for the rest of his life for his crimes? Like I do wonder about these men in power and what they're capable of. 100% I agree with you 100% in that regard, but they're killing each other. You know what I mean? Like they're like what I'm like, I agree they can like make their power allows for them to exert power over powerless people. No, but I'm talking about how Jeffrey Epstein was able to commit suicide in that prison. Oh, like the people turn the other way. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't believe he did. I do too. Some version of that. No, I do believe that actually. I think that that's very possible. Well, here's again, not to pull this away from Jeffrey Epstein, but I will say I am confused. I don't understand the overall plot. I understand that there is a wealthy businessman, blackmailing other people just to have it at his disposal. And he had a cabal of women and he paid Angie Everhart $10,000 for two sessions or whatever, or for how many sessions that she did. Possibly there were more. Jade is working just because she's in a bad marriage, but it doesn't make sense because it seems like Jade is very sexual and her husband is very sexual because he's having affairs. And it just feels like. But just because they both have sexual imbalances, Paul doesn't mean they're compatible. Okay. That's a good. Well, that's great. So there you go. Yeah. But I agree with you, Paul, in that I don't think she's participating in all of this sex to gain blackmail material. No, I agree with that. I think she is pursuing pleasure. Yes. But that is what I believe she. I believe her when she says that is her intention. She's also she didn't know that she's so flirty with her husband at the gala. She's like, oh, stay, come on, stay. And like, and he's like, oh, yeah, right. But she can't be jade with him. Okay. So that's what it is. That's that last line when he's like, why don't you show me a little jade? I want to play that clip now too. The ending where Chavez momentary like oddly reveals the whole end and gets away with it here. I'm going to get these. I can't med for children to meet the day before I kill them. You know when you kill them. It was a scumbag. He would have taken his boat down. I would never let anyone hurt you. But I don't remember any of it. You know what I think it is? Hysterical blindness. Do me a favor, Trina. Next time we make love, you introduce me to Jade. That's a and then the movie ends. The movie is crazy. That's it. Credits. It's it is really so I mean to answer your earlier question, Paul, I believe this movie has two concurrent villains. Right. There is the Chaz Paulementary villain who is trying to exact a certain revenge on his wife by killing all of the men who have fallen in love with her sexually. Okay. Right. He's jealous of them. All right. So now that happens to intersect with the initial murder happens to be this man who is using, as you said, Angie Everhart, Linda Fiorentino and perhaps other women to use them to have sex with men in this place where there are cameras so he can get blackmail material. So he is. He is so then the governor. What does he want for with that blackmail material? What is he doing with that? We don't. I don't think we ever know. Yeah, maybe. I don't think we ever know because he's dead from the jump. But the villain is the governor. Yeah. The governor who once he sees those pictures, he realizes, I need everybody who might have seen any of this to go away, which is why they keep trying to kill Karus. Then why isn't the man in the tape with Jade from the beach house, somebody that anyone knows? Because of the whole idea is that he's blackmailing famous men. Wouldn't you go, oh my gosh. And that's the head of blank blank. They are just more focused on her. That's what I was kind of used to. So you think it's maybe a Bubba the Love Sponge Hulk Hogan scenario? Yeah. I just thought there were other guys she was bringing there to fuck that were maybe not a part of. But it's that guy's house. I know, but it seems she knows she can go there. So maybe what you're saying is that guy goes, hey, you have all the stuff in you. Here's the keys to my house. Use it at your leisure. And he's just maybe getting not even blackmail footage because that's not in the safe. Although he did throw the tape in the he did throw the tape in the fireplace, which means makes me think that he does tape all the sex there. But then it's like, you know what? I don't care about this because that's just her getting his dollars off. Wait a second. Who threw the tape in the fire? The man who was killed like the Halloween Horror Nights in the beginning. See, I don't know that that's the case. Okay. It could be Chaz Palmentieri who threw the tape in the fire. Yeah, that's what I thought. But why would he be there? Because he killed him. No, but he wouldn't kill him at the beach house. He killed him at the other house. So that tape was in the they found the governor. They found the governor pictures in his safe. They found that tape in the ashes of the fireplace. So the fire might be the Chaz Palmentieri is trying to erase any anything that connects Linda Fiorentino to this stuff. See, I wonder if in the original script, Linda Fiorentino used to be a sex worker for this guy and he's trying to erase that past for her to kind of clear her out as like I want to be married to a reputable woman. And he maybe has more of an abusive relationship with her and a powerful relationship with her because of that because he's bringing her into society. I could see that. He may have met her that way. But I mean, there's there's something missing, I guess is what I'm saying. I agree. There's something missing. We might we might just not be able to solve it because it might not be there. Because like I said, I kept writing like, wait, what has happened that this is now? Like I felt like scenes were missing. Connections weren't being made. Like this had many of the like, like I said, very broad strokes of the police or this, the lawyer now has this, but none of it was based on like gathering evidence, finding clues. Like the guy, oh my God, we do have the scene where the guy, the tech runs the tape and he's like, great zoom enhance. Yeah. You know, like we do have one of those which made me laugh. No, no, freeze it. Freeze it. Magnify it. The film is low density. Now I know a little bit about filmmaking. I've never heard about low density film. Yeah, I will say that it was. Yeah, it was wild. It doesn't make sense and it ends so abruptly that you're like, what did I just want? Like it ends in a weird way. It's like, OK, so I guess Chaz got away with it and now she's going to be stuck in this relationship where she's got to pretend to be Jade or kill him. I mean, sequels ready to go. Yeah. And what I couldn't figure out was like, it really is, it makes a fool of David Caruso. Yeah. Well, he'll never be a D.A. Right, because he doesn't solve the case. No. Well, he does because I think that those minions go down for the whole thing. That's what I mean, though. So Chaz Pallmentary gets away with work. He doesn't. Yeah, he thinks this is crazy. Like who's the who's the who's who like so what to think about it really. The movie ends and the villain has won. Yes. How often does that happen? Yeah. And you would buy it more if it was the femme fatale because I think that that's more expected. Yes. But here it's like Chaz Pallmentary. It's like, huh, no, that the absolute gross villain has won. When's the day? His wife is now trapped with him and David Caruso. I don't even know. We don't even land. We don't even end with David Caruso. No, it's bizarre. Very strange. But that's I think that's part of not wanting to end on a ginger. And you know what? That might have been a good choice. Honestly, I don't think you can end the movie on a ginger. There you go. That's the shirt. Obviously, we had opinions about this movie with people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. That was John Le Jois. June, you want to say something about your comments about gingers in this show? First of all, I'm not the only one. A lot of times I feel like I have to bear the brunt of a few things here. I'm not the only one who made comments about gingers. I did too. Thank you, Jason. I just want to say that I think that there are so many stunning gingers out there. Like actually taking breath away gingers. It was just a surprise and it was a surprise to see a male ginger. It was all surprising. I have nothing to say bad about gingers as far as how they look and how beautiful they are. I only had to say it about their box office viability. That's really what I think I'm trying to get to. Is that what you call ginger vaginas? Box office viability? Well, that's when I used that hello to help get there. I just heard it. Hello. You just said, oh, that was interesting. That's the first time I heard it. Okay, got it. These are five star reviews called from Amazon. 72% of them are five star reviews. This is not one of those situations like in episodes past where this is bundled into a bunch of movies. This is one movie and their reviews are great. I'm going to just read you a few because they're all super fun. This is from urnall. Urnall wrote this in 2015. Great movie, especially if you like San Francisco. A wonderful movie. It has so many San Francisco street scenes for the lover of that city. Good plot. Has enough car chases to satisfy the most hardcore car chase junkie. I'm pretty sexy too. Five stars. This movie says had enough car chases. Feels like there's like, I guess maybe two, but this guy really enjoys the San Francisco. San Francisco doesn't really read to me in this film. But anyway, that's that. There's a whole sequence where his brakes fail. Yeah, that's the truth. I mean, that could have only worked in San Francisco. Yeah, the old way to kill people in San Francisco. I wanted somebody to go down that little mini street, that really hard street that's like very... with a... Soundman J in 2014 writes this. This is a smoking hot thriller. David Caruso is his usual good actor self with Linda Fiorentino being outstanding in her sexy complex self as a psychiatrist. Very good thriller with twists and turns throughout. Laurie Dobbs chimes in. In 2016 and writes, this movie is okay, but it's not the one I was looking for. Five stars. Lylas. What were you looking for? I have no idea. I wonder. And then this one from Lylas in 2020, March 2020, still getting the reviews in March 2020. I don't know what it is about this movie. It's sexy and naughty. I just love it. Five stars. And then I believe this is the final one I'll read here from Gwendolyn. This is written in 2013. This is a good movie. It keeps you on your toes and in suspense, but the wild sex man. These were some buck wild people and I'm not mad at them. Five stars. This was wild. And just to answer to the person who said it had some good car chases in it, it does not. You want to see incredible San Francisco car chase rent the Peter Yates movie bullet with Stephen McCree? Of course. Unbelievable San Francisco set car chase. All right. This movie comes out in 1995. The budget is $50 million. $50 million. Wait, so Paul, well you've remised. So this is 1995. When was basic instinct? Well, this is after, this is kind of ripping basic instinct. So it. Was it like right before it was basic instinct like the two years earlier or Robert Evans saw that next one. Yeah. So basic instinct comes out in 92. So about three years later, but I think it's in that zone, you know, of, of, so the budget is 50 million. The total gross $9.8 million. The top three movies in 1995 are Batman forever, Apollo 13 and Toy Story. This movie came in at 122nd out of all the movies made in 1995, beaten by films that we've done on this show. Congo Disclosure. Oh, Disclosure, of course. Virtuosity, Johnny Mimonic, Street Fighter and Fair Game. It beat hackers, Junior and Top Dog. So Junior, our namesake image from the original poster. I beat that. And here is one. Well, I'll say. Can I just say something wild? Yeah. Sorry. Very briefly, although these, for some reason, these aren't in order. Joe Astrahouse writes in, okay, 1992 basic instinct. 1993 sliver. 1995, both showgirls and Jade. Wow. And then, and then, and then still 80 in the, he's still got crazy stuff in the Jagged Edge. He's still got other stuff that you know and have seen. But just those movies alone in that era, like back to back to back to back, like successful erotic thrillers, then Jade. So crazy. I mean, this is really, I mean, a bizarre time. I just want to just, I also am just kind of confused about why they're meeting at church. The religion also doesn't really play a part in it. There's so many weird things about this movie. But I guess the question is like, I feel like it touches on so many things. It's like, it's like, it's like a stew of like all these movies mixed together by the ultimate cook of these movies. But would you recommend watching it? Would you recommend watching it? Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Fun one. This is a fun one. I would recommend watching all the movies I just mentioned. I think I want to do sliver on this show. I think we got to do sliver on this show. We should do sliver on this show. I think, I mean, I think at some point, maybe the very last how to this get made will be show girls. Yeah, we, yeah, that we get. Something. But they're, you know, like these are all like they exactly to your point earlier June, like that era of erotic thrillers from, from the 90s. That was, you know, nine and a half weeks and Angel Heart and all. Two moon junction baby. Two moon junction, Cherylyn Finn. Like those were, it's a type of movie that I'm trying to think just does not get made anymore. I know. There is no longer like, you know, even like the, you know, body heat, you know, jagged edge, you know, like when Kathleen Turner is like a sex symbol and all of these people are like dangerous and there's so much going on. I don't know. I love that. I loved it too. We're going to wrap up. I'm just going to leave you all with this one thought and this is quickly it. Um, OJ Simpson was, uh, was, uh, judges being not guilty. And when he went to the press that day, he said, I'm excited to go see Jade. What? So there you go, people. That was one of the notable things. Is that like, is that like people saying I'm going to Disneyland when they win the Super Bowl? It was like, he stated to the press, he was excited to go see Jade. So that's how we end today's episode. Uh, comes full circle. Um, also a very big thank you to Averill Halley who pulled this movie out of the dark depths. Uh, she made an amazing mashup clip of NCIS and Jade, which we will post up on all of our socials. A reminder to join us on the, how did this get made discord board? A big thank you to Nate Kylie for finding that OJ Simpson fact out, Nate, you are kiss a good chef's kiss to you. A big thank you to a Devon, our engineer who pieces all this stuff together painstakingly and our super producer, Cody, who keeps the ship running and Molly. Um, people, I want to be, have a big shout out to the ghost of Craig T Nelson. That is Zach McElise on Instagram who designs our amazing, how did this get made posters? Also, uh, I want to give a tip of the hat to Nate Kylie, who also designed some of our great stuff for our Facebook group. Uh, I love it all. You are all fantastic. Make sure you give us a call at 619 PAUL, ASK that 619 Paul asked for the mini episode. I will talk about Jade, but I also talk about your life because I am helping people solve their problem. Uh, make sure you follow me and like I said, how did this get made on our discord pages? We are there all the time and I can't wait to talk to you all next week about a film called Jade. And you know what? Before I get going, before I get out of the whole thing, one person I didn't think and that whole mix of people because I'm saving it for the end. Because I know that he's going to listen to the end. July Diaz, July Diaz, the master pulling this all together, listening, knowing what people want and what they don't want. Thank you, July. See you all later next week on the mini episode. Bye for now.