Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter

The Man Who Built the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover | April 30, 2026

124 min
Apr 30, 2026about 1 month ago
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Summary

Arian Foster and PFT Commenter discuss the history of J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI, covering his controversial leadership, surveillance programs, alleged blackmail operations, and the creation of modern FBI infrastructure. The episode explores Hoover's obsession with communism over organized crime, his targeting of civil rights leaders like MLK, and speculation about his personal life and potential involvement in JFK's assassination.

Insights
  • Hoover's FBI prioritized ideological threats (communism) over actual organized crime for decades, only investigating the mafia after the 1957 Appalachian raid forced his hand
  • Hoover built the FBI's surveillance apparatus (wiretapping, informants, blackmail files) that persists today, establishing a template for government overreach that lasted 48 years
  • The concentration of power in a single FBI director led to the creation of the 10-year term limit, demonstrating how one individual's unchecked authority can compromise institutional integrity
  • Hoover maintained files on 25 million Americans, targeting civil rights activists, entertainers, and political figures—establishing a precedent for surveillance of dissent rather than crime
  • The destruction of evidence (Oswald's note to FBI agent Hosty) and alleged blackmail of sitting presidents suggests the FBI operated outside legal and constitutional boundaries under Hoover
Trends
Government surveillance infrastructure built for ideological control persists in modern law enforcementConcentration of executive power in single individuals creates systemic risk and institutional corruptionTargeting of civil rights and social justice movements as 'communist threats' reflects Cold War-era conflation of activism with subversionDestruction of evidence and blackmail as tools of institutional power remain relevant to modern debates about FBI accountabilityHistorical revisionism of organized crime (mafia denial) parallels modern debates about threat assessment and institutional blind spotsPersonal secrets and alleged blackmail material used to extend tenure and consolidate power in government positionsSurveillance technology and informant networks established in 1920s-1960s remain foundational to modern law enforcement practices
Topics
J. Edgar Hoover FBI LeadershipFBI Surveillance Programs and WiretappingMLK Assassination and FBI InvolvementJFK Assassination Conspiracy TheoriesCold War Anti-Communist Witch HuntsCivil Rights Movement FBI TargetingOrganized Crime and Mafia InvestigationFBI Director Term LimitsGovernment Blackmail and CoercionFOIA and FBI File AccessBlack Panthers and FBI DisruptionLee Harvey Oswald FBI ConnectionClyde Tolson and Hoover RelationshipPalmer Raids and Red ScareNational Fingerprint Registry
Companies
Apple
Tim Cook stepping down as CEO; discussion of Apple Vision Pro headset and company product innovation
FBI
Primary subject of episode; discussion of institutional history, surveillance programs, and leadership under J. Edgar...
People
J. Edgar Hoover
Primary subject; led FBI for 48 years, established surveillance infrastructure and targeted civil rights leaders
Clyde Tolson
Hoover's longtime deputy and alleged romantic partner; worked together entire careers
Martin Luther King Jr.
Targeted by Hoover's FBI with wiretaps, blackmail, and surveillance; called greatest threat to American stability
John F. Kennedy
FBI allegedly wiretapped his bedroom; assassination potentially connected to Hoover and FBI operations
Lee Harvey Oswald
Allegedly dropped note at FBI Dallas office 10 days before JFK assassination; possible FBI informant
Roy Cohn
McCarthy's chief counsel; connected to Hoover; allegedly introduced him to cross-dressing at parties
Fred Hampton
Killed as result of FBI COINTELPRO operations targeting Black Panthers under Hoover's direction
Arian Foster
Co-host of Macrodosing; discusses golf, FBI files, and historical analysis throughout episode
PFT Commenter
Co-host of Macrodosing; primary narrator of J. Edgar Hoover history segment
Tim Cook
Stepping down as Apple CEO after 15 years; replaced by hardware engineering veteran
James Comey
Recently indicted for threatening president; discussed for posting cryptic seashell photo on Instagram
Robert Mueller
Took office one week before 9/11; discussed as example of bad timing for FBI leadership transition
Brendan Swortzby
Left Texas Tech to seek gambling addiction treatment; allegedly bet on own team games at Indiana
Helen Keller
On Hoover's FBI watch list as suspected communist; targeted for disability rights advocacy
Quotes
"I'm in an abusive relationship, dog, and I love her. You'll be playing this shit for 40 years."
Arian FosterGolf discussion segment
"How many Italians is too much? 60 Italians. Too many is 50. That's actually hilarious."
PFT Commenter and Arian FosterAppalachian raid discussion
"He was like upset. He called Martin Luther King like the greatest threat to American. The American way."
PFT CommenterMLK targeting discussion
"No one man can have all that power. Shut up Kanye."
Arian FosterFBI director term limits discussion
"I don't think it's possible to get away with too many crimes if you know the person at all."
PFT CommenterNancy Guthrie kidnapping discussion
Full Transcript
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Undisclosed day of generic celebration for big tea. It's coming up for you. There's not even any celebration, it just is. Acknowledgement. Yeah. It's also happy bachelor party weekend to both of you as well. Yeah, happy bachelor party big tea. No, enjoy, enjoy yours. I might, you enjoy yours. It sounds fun. You know what's kind of wild that you really think about it? How old are you big tea right now? I'm 28 right now, I'll be 29 on Monday. Yeah, so you're not really 29. Like you're really 30. Right, it's the end of your 29th year. That's kind of wild. Like whatever year you are, you actually a year older. Because we didn't start counting until a year after. Yeah, your birthday comes at the end, not the beginning. It's just kind of wild. So like, all those people, you know, dreading aging, you're already a year older than you think you are. Yeah, you've completed that year. Yeah, big tea, you are, you've been here for 30 years. Well, no. Pretty much. 29. Yeah, but pretty, you're turning 29. Uh-huh, because I've been here for 29 years. Oh yeah. I was born 29 years ago. You were born 29 years ago. So you're almost going on to your 30th year. Correct. Yeah, almost. How you feeling about that? Fine. Mad Dog, how are you feeling? You like birthdays? Yeah, I don't mind my birthday. I'm not like a huge birthday, like I'm going to have a huge party person. I feel pretty indifferent about the age I'm turning. It doesn't really have a lot of juice behind it. I do one thing for my birthday every year, and I'm going to let you in on this secret, because I think it's important. So I like a yellow cake with chocolate frosting. That's all I want for my birthday. I don't need presents or anything. I want a yellow cake with chocolate frosting. But here's what you do. You make it in a bun pan, and then you have full icing coverage on the entirety of the cake. Creates a much better cake experience. That's a genius idea. Yeah. And that's your favorite, yellow cake? Yeah. Gooey, gooey, yellow, like buttery? Just yellow cake, man. I don't know. No funfetti? No. No, no, no. And no swirls in the frosting or anything? No. Just chocolate? Just run the football? And see what I'm running into with these wedding cakes? Is they're like, OK, so you have eight layers of filling. What do you want? I'm like, just make a cake. I don't need to be involved in all this. I don't care. I'm at the point. I'm just going to tell them, pick whatever you. I'm not eating it. I don't care. Pick whatever you want. Yeah. So by the way, these cake people, you wouldn't believe. I mean, bakers? I mean bakers? I'm in charge of the cake. Yeah. These prices. Yeah, crazy. You would not believe it. I've never been more correct on a take than when Big T got engaged. And I said, just wait, Big T. I mean, I told you that. You're going to hate the next year. Like, what do you think a wedding cake costs that feeds like 50 people? 50 person wedding cake. How many layers are we talking? I don't know. You want to call it three layers? They got a lot of layers in them. I don't know. I think I'm going to guess two grand. Oh, OK. Well, you're off. I mean, that's an insane guess. But it's, I mean, it's half that. Yeah. Not that insane of a guess. They're outrageous. So I'm trying to figure that out. Big T, I also want to pick your brain about something that came in the news yesterday for the most part. I don't see it on the sheet, but I hope it's OK if we go off script a little bit. Please do. OK, the quarterback situation at Texas Tech. Mm. What do you know about his expectations going in this season? Because I've heard that him, like, as a quarterback, incredible talent, great arm talent. I agree. Is that fair? I wanted him at Tennessee bad. Now, was he supposed to be one of the best quarterbacks in the country? And obviously, we can be wrong about those things. This upcoming year? Yeah, you look at, like, Club Nick and Nuss Meyer from last year. The expectations were. Well, anyone that believed in Kate Club Nick some more on. But yes, I would say he's supposed to be one of the five best quarterbacks in the country. OK, Brendan Swarzby. And he was at Cincinnati. And he was at Indiana. Prior to that. Prior to being at Cincinnati. When they stunk. And he redshirted. So the school made announcement the other day that he was leaving Texas Tech to go and rule in treatment for gambling addiction. Yeah. Right. And now stories are starting to come out that he placed bets on his own teams when he was at Indiana. Yeah, I think when he was at Indiana, he placed a couple bets on them to win games. Yeah. So now there are a bunch of questions that come out. Number one, if he does have a gambling addiction, this is the right move for him to go seek treatment for it. And gambling addiction is real. And if you or someone you know is experiencing it, 100 gambler, there's also a chance that he is not addicted to gambling. And he got caught gambling. And this is the first step of a PR handling of the situation. They could both be true. And they could both be true. And you could also make the argument that if you are a highly touted college quarterback and you bet any amount of money on any amount of college games, you have a gambling problem. Because you're throwing away potentially your future for the short term rush or winnings of gambling on sports. And if it's reported, he got about $5 million to play one season at Texas Tech this year. Right. So if you throw that all away for like a $100 parlay, you could make the argument like, yeah, you have a gambling problem. You risk $5 million of your own future. Talk about terrible odds. Bad odds. Bad odds on that one. Yeah. But could be just young too, though. Right. Because, you know, did they have a gambling problem? Or is it like, yeah, I got to try to shit out. I think there is. One of the reports said he was betting like a dollar on pitches at a Cincinnati Reds game. I think that is certainly different than betting on your own games as a player. I think that's where it becomes. And I would have. I've been shocked at the number of athletes this has happened to. If you would have asked me a couple years ago, I would have. What percentage of collegiate athletes are gambling? I don't know what I would have said a pretty low number. Now I think it's gambling on anything. I think it's over 50%. You think over 50? Gambling on anything. And I don't know, are they allowed to bet on professional sports? I don't know. I don't think so. I'm not sure. I don't know what the rules are. And then betting on college football, I think it's certainly smaller than that, but not an insignificant number. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like. Dedication isn't born in the light of day. 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I think that I think it's dumb if you do it. Now, is it a game? Does he have a gambling addiction? He might. He very well might. And that might be why he's seeking treatment for it. But also, I feel like if you were to design a PR response to a situation like this, where you found out that you were going to get caught for something, step one is like, yeah, let's go. I would venture a guess. This was done preemptively. It was done preemptively as a measure to see if there's a possibility that he can play 2026. And I think regardless of the veracity of the claim of him having gambling addiction, and if he does, I hope he gets treatment for it, I don't think that they're going to let him play. I don't see how they can, given that he bet on a game in which his own team played. And the NCAA, really, they haven't had an enforcement arm in a while. And the enforcement arm that they do have is very weak. But I would suspect that if they ruled him ineligible for this year, I guess you could appeal that in court. But my guess would be that he would not end up playing at all this year. Tell me about the NFL supplemental draft. That's the other question. Does that happen every year? Or only if there are people who want to be in it? Yeah, so I'm not a supplemental draft expert. Well, you're a shieldie. I am a shieldie. Do you know, did you see shieldie? No. That's the new slur for guys who only watch the NFL. I love that. I love that. There was a tweet. Like Steven Shea is a shieldie. Yes, there was a, this guy said, who were they talking about? This guy said, finally studying Leonard Moore. And someone said, my favorite part is you saying finally about a 20 27 prospect literally one day after the 26 NFL draft ended my type of sicko. And then this guy responded, you'd already know how good he is if you shieldies ever watched college football. That's beautiful. We've got a few shieldies around here. Oh yeah. I'd say quite a few. Who's the number one shieldie at Barstool Sports? Che. Che doesn't like you. You're aware of what's going on in college football. Who started the whole PRT doesn't watch college. I watched college football every Saturday from 11 a.m. until 11 p.m. Every Saturday in the fall. You're not locked in. Every Saturday I watched college football nonstop, minimum two games at once. Sometimes four games at once. Who? I need to find who the ground, where the ground zero of the. Name as many head coaches in the SEC as you can. Okay. Are you fighting not watching CFB allegations? I'm fighting those allegations. Yes, I am. I'm fighting them very hard. Name the SEC head coaches. Okay, so let's see. You've got Hypal at Tennessee. One. You've got, and this is offseason, DeBoer at Alabama, Lane Kiffin, LSU, Elko at A&M, Steve Sarkesian at Texas. Get them off your dog. Drinkwits at Mizzou. Florida hired Tulane. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Skipping my mind. The Tulane head coach. I'm not giving you that. Mincey's best friend. You can come back to it. Okay, it was Billy Napier. Billy Napier left. Okay, other school. Kirby Smart, Georgia. Vandy's head, I know Vandy's head coach. N-Season, I get that. Should be easy to say his name. Yeah, N-Season, I get this within a matter of two seconds. But that's what separates a shielding. Offseason, my brain goes elsewhere. Right. You're at seven out of 16. Okay, and then Auburn hired, was it the UNT head coach? Nope. Who did Auburn hire? I forget who Auburn. I know, because I fell across football really close. I'm obsessed with the SEC. I mean, I could name you all the big 10 coach. Probably not all of them. But what do you call the opposite? Because you don't really watch the NFL. Yeah, I mean, if you want to come up with a slur for just CFB heads, that's fine. Are you low key not a sports guy? You're obsessed with boys. You're much rather... Buddy, these guys play till they're 28 now. Every Saturday, you're like, time to see what the boys are up to. And you're obsessed with men. Yeah, I am obsessed with men. You're at seven, by the way. Are you out? I'm trying to think what schools I did not bring up. We're missing Arkansas, Mississippi State. Oh, yeah. Arkansas. Ole Miss. Wait, did they fire... They did fire Pittman, right? Did they? They had to have fired Pittman. I'd be shocked if they didn't fire Pittman. I guess you tell me. But then who took the Arkansas gig? Fuck, I would just say Pittman. They did fire? Yeah, he's been fired. Okay, all right, I thought that he would be. So seven. Well, let's see, what other schools are we missing out on? I think we've established... Mississippi State. I mean, what? You don't have to keep going. It's fine. Who's in Mississippi? The former defensive coordinator at Mississippi State, right? No. That guy's been long fired. I don't know Mississippi State, sorry, Brandon. So we're missing Jeff Levy at Mississippi State. Okay. Ryan Silverfield at Arkansas, the former Memphis head coach. Okay. Auburn hired Alex Gholish from South Florida. That's right. Formerly Tennessee offensive coordinator. The Florida coach from Tulane is John Somerall. Somerall, yeah, okay. That one I should have gotten. Vandy is Clark Lee. Okay. Are we... What other schools? Oklahoma? Oh, Red Finnables. Yeah. Is that it? You got Missouri, Kentucky? Kentucky is... There's no chance he misses. Well, I mean, I would have gotten stoopes. It's not him. I know it's not him. Give me the school he came from. I don't think I will. Because you don't know. He came from Oregon. Okay. There we go. Yeah, you're right. I don't know. Wilstein. Wilstein. Okay. South Carolina? South Carolina would be... Beamer. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you didn't know that, that was going to be a problem. Beamer. Is that all of them? I think so. Can I pass the test, man? Seven out of 16? Wait. How much do you want? I would have loved 12. South Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia. LSU, Oklahoma. You just name it schools now? Texas. Texas A&M. What's the name of the ones you got? I'm naming the ones that I got. Missouri. Yeah, you got... I'm at eight right now. You ended up with eight because you got... Or nine because you got Venables and Beamer even though... So I got nine. I had to name the schools for you. Well, that's fine. I knew the coaches. The question was, do you know the coaches? Okay, that's fine. Nine out of 16 and there was... There was some... The one that I'll say I should have gotten, without a doubt, I should have gotten some role. I knew some role. He was an op all last year. So you denied... You denied... And goalish, I know goalish, but I had forgotten that he was hired by... So you resent being called a shieldie? I don't... I'm not a shieldie. No. I guess I think maybe the more I push against it, maybe the more people will be likely to call me a shieldie. Like Che is a thousand percent a shieldie. Yes. He doesn't know like... He doesn't know who Archmending is. That hasn't crossed his radar yet. Maybe because of draft stuff. Okay, he doesn't know the Norse cellars. He has no idea who the Norse cellars is. Che is a shieldie. I've got some other people I'd call shieldies, but it would cause... It would cause a ruckus. I can't. But there are other shieldies. Say one. Say one that would cause a ruckus. Cause one ruckus. I can't. Cause one ruckus. I can't do it. Who do you say Ole Miss was again? Oh, Pete Golding. We didn't say him. Pete Golding. That's right. Are they in this office or New York? If I speak big trouble and I don't want to be in big trouble. Oh, interesting. We have shieldies here. That's all. Jerry. Jerry is a thousand percent... A self-avowed shieldie. But he knows it. Jersey or O'Connell? Jersey. Jack McCarthy. Shieldie. I don't even know that he would identify as that. I think he's just... He's not a sports guy. Watch sports when they're on while I'm drinking guy. He's a drinking guy. Yeah. Yeah. I would agree with that. He's a Corsi. Rico Bosco. He watches college football. Okay. All right. That was a test. Yeah. That was a test. You passed. Is it someone on PFT's other podcast? No. I mean, listen, you're... Yeah. I mean, Hank is a... This is a company of shieldies and that's fine. I wouldn't even say Hank's a shield. Hank's a patsy. He only cares about the Patriots. Okay. I will say I've never made the claim that I'm as big a college football guy as you. Well, when I called you a shieldie, you tried that. Oh, Brandon Walker. Talk about how much college football you want. Well, I mean, clearly I'm not... I'm not even close to on the same level as you were, Brandon. Thank you. You guys... I would agree. You guys are the top two. But to say... Like... I don't watch college football. It's... That... That to me is a slur. I believe college football is on in your vicinity on Saturdays. I believe that. Every Saturday. All fall. Sure. For 12 hours. Are you locked into it? I don't know. Do you have more than one screen on? I doubt it. I do have more than one screen on. How many on a Saturday? Typically, I got two screens going. Okay. Yeah, I mean two. And then I've got, well, on one of the screens, I'll have multi-view. Okay. I mean, that's fine. It is fine. I mean, I got seven TVs in here, and then I pull up an iPad and a computer. Right. You're locked in. To make sure we're not missing anything. You're locked in. Yeah. Yeah. I love college football, man. All right. I'm glad we got some fun. We're almost in May. So it's almost May, which means you really just have to get through like six weeks, and then it's, you can start doing previews. Yeah. You got it. Yeah. So we're almost there. I feel like it's like once your wedding's over. Right. I was just thinking that. And then I go on a two-week honeymoon, and then once we're back from that, it's college football season. Mm-hmm. Okay. We're almost there. Nearly there. Sure. More enjoyable, more enjoyable, your honeymoon, or the beginning of college football season. I do have a sick honeymoon planned. So I feel like that, that should be better, but there are some great games to open the year. I mean, what we've done, week one now is, I mean, we've got, let me see what we've got week one. I know week two, there are some awesome games. I think week two at Tennessee goes to Georgia Tech. I think there is Oklahoma, Michigan again. Is Texas, Ohio State also in week two? I don't know. Lot of great games, but I do have, Hawaii's going to be sick. I've got a lot of good stuff planned in Hawaii. I'm excited for you, man. Thank you. Big T to answer your question about the supplemental draft. I think they do have the draft every year because there's always somebody that could be eligible for it. But it's not like held on a single day. So it varies from year to year. They will have a supplemental draft this year, and Swordsby could potentially put his name in there. And if he does, that means that he could be drafted just based on the arm talent alone. And that way he wouldn't even have to worry about going back to college and like getting ruled eligible. Now that this has happened, I can't believe this guy didn't go to Tennessee. This is the most Tennessee thing that's ever happened. Yeah. You dodged a bullet on this one. Showed up $5 million quarterback gambling. Do you know who the, maybe the biggest name? What are any names? Can you name any names of any players that have been selected in the supplemental draft for the NFL? Was Maurice Claret in the supplemental draft? Maurice Claret was not. He was in the third round, I thought. Yeah. He was in the third round. I don't. One of my favorite backs of all time. He was nasty. College. One of my favorite college. Did he ever do anything in the NFL? He got drafted to Denver and never really panned out. Um, I think he did okay, but it wasn't like his height. There were some rumors at the time too when he went to the NFL that he was like in practice, he might not have had water in his water bottle. Oh, really? Yeah. I think he was credited with the phrase, I got to get my goose on. Oh, he never even played in the NFL. He was released in training camp. Oh, wow. Damn, I didn't know he was released. I thought he played a little bit. Played for the Omaha Night Hawks. Yeah, I love them, man. But yeah, no, I don't, I hear of the supplemental draft every now and then, but I don't know anybody that's been. Josh Gordon would be the big name I was thinking of. Yeah. Yeah. Terrell Pryor as well. That's right. After the tattoos. Ended up having a nice career. Yeah, really nice career. So it looks like according to Wikipedia, which is quite reliable, we haven't had a single player taken in the supplemental draft since 2019. Yeah, that's why I was saying like, I don't even know that they have it every year. I think they do. They do like a meeting or like a conference call and they just say, okay, first round, anyone want to give a first round pick for anybody? Okay, anyone want to do a second round pick? Okay, third round. And then so it can be like a five minute call sometimes. Is that how it works? Yeah, I think so. So you can give up a pick in maybe the next draft and it's like a bidding process on each player. Interesting. Yeah. So yeah, it would be potentially an out for for Swarsby if he didn't want to try to return or if he felt that he was going to be suspended, try to go to the NFL and see if a team takes a flyer on you, which I feel like there, there probably should be a team that should take a chance on them. If the arm is that good, I've heard some people say he's got like a top 10 NFL arm right now. I think he's really good. But I don't know. He's got to play more football too. What happened with your boy? What's his name? Diego Rivera? The husband, Candid? Yeah, he went undrafted and then didn't even. How does it happen? What happened? He's like five eight and in no position to play quarterback in the NFL. Okay, I didn't know he was five eight. He might be five 10, but I mean, he's tiny. He's not his arm is not they ran a very like he's a he was a talented runner and played their offense well in college football. He has no prospects of being an NFL quarterback. And then I think he didn't even sign like a UDFA contract. He just got an invite to the Ravens mini camp. But then they did sign him after the fact to an undrafted free agent. Yeah, he got a three year deal with Ravens. Have you seen that's the new thing that agents have these guys tweeting out as like, Oh, they signed a three year deal. All these guys are going to be released in two months. It could be it could be a one week deal. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But that's that's what they have them doing is Oh, they signed a three year deal. Yeah, three hand they're doing. Hold on. Undrafted is run three year deals now. But I don't think it's really three years. You know, I know, I mean, they can terminate anytime. When I signed my because I was undrafted. It's a two year deal. They usually can't lock up dudes for that long. Because let's say let's say he balls three years is crazy to be making minimum if you balling out. True. So it's actually a bad that's a really bad contract. It's horrible. Like I did a two year deal and I won the NFL Russian title under undrafted. I was making league minimum. And I led the league in touchdowns rushing yards. Yeah, all purpose yards, severely underpaid. Yeah, that's kind of crazy. So if you're Pavia, even though it sounds like it sounds cool to say three year deal, really, you would want a one year deal. Yeah, you do one year. Get a one year deal. Because it's not like he's making any real money off the three. And it's not like there's any guaranteed money that comes from year two and year three. If they don't like you after like a week, they can cut you guys. I don't I don't think any of this is anything Diego Pavia needs to be worried about. Okay. I think we're just time trying to try to take care of his upside. You know, yeah, I think he will be going pro in something other than sports. Okay, I love that commercial. Was that enterprise? I don't know what it was. But I think it was enterprise rental car. That was my like, I should tell people that. Tell them you're gonna go pro some sports though, like during games, games, practice. Yeah, that was probably about that time. I think it was enterprise and they were like, we hire a bunch of former NCAA athletes. Yeah. It's like, going pro in something other than sports. What are the biggest companies that do that enterprise Home Depot? That's mostly for like Olympics too. I don't know where their company's known for hiring student athletes. I think those are the two big ones. Car dealerships everywhere. Yeah. Let's get the big T sheet. And then we're going to talk about J. Edgar Hoover and the the FBI. It's a light sheet today because we came in here early and we got we got a heart out. All right. So big T number one on the sheet. Dallas has discovered lottery or sorry, has discovered libraries. Yeah, they banned phones in schools and now they're the books checked out in the school libraries are up 24%. So from the first day of school to March 31st, the district the district reported an increase of more than 200,000 additional books checked out compared to the previous year. So it seems like banning phones is working or at least having some good side effects. Yeah, I like it. Do you agree that more places should do the master's thing? Just lock phones out in school? Yeah, what about just places? I mean, if a private business wants to do that, the people the market will decide if that's a good idea or not. That's what I'm saying. But would you would your own personal market decide if it was a good idea? What? I gotta take it there. No, I mean, I'm like, if you want to do that, that's great. But then people might not want to go to your place. Correct. I think I'm wondering if you think your your own personal big T market in order to not be able to carry my cell phone somewhere, it would need to be something as awesome as the master's. Okay, what about which not many exist going to a movie, phone lockers or they give you the bag at the when you walk into the theater? No, he's struggling. They're already struggling for customers anyway. I think you can only do that if you have an exclusive event that no matter what my focus when it comes to. Yeah, now I do good. The theater I go to. It's called Alamo draft house you ever been there? Oh, yeah. Their whole thing is like if you pull your phone out will kill you. So they are very strict on it. But I mean, I want to have it on me in case you need it. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. But I mean, they five times before the movie starts, they're like, if you pull out your phone, we will see it and we will kick you out. What about nice restaurant? Again, like it's fine if you tell people don't have it out. But taking it if you're taking it, it's got to be or not something cool. Not taking it, but you're not allowed to have it out. Like if you take your phone out at the table, the manager will stop by and we'll say sir, put that away. But see, I have a problem with authority because I think that's probably a good idea. But I don't want you telling me. But if you're going to this restaurant, let people just on their own, you're opting in to I understand no phones and that's why I probably wouldn't go. Probably wouldn't go. Okay, so that's the market. That's the big T mark. Like and I think that's a great idea. Go to dinner with your wife, whatever and have no phones. Yeah, but that's you can't tell me. What about the movie gore stats? You guys are interested. Adults under 50 are more likely to attend with two thirds of those aged 18 to 29 attending in the past year compared to only 39% of those 65 and older income, upper income Americans have the highest attendance rate, 64% compared to lower income adults, 43%. Which makes sense because it should be expect like the it'd be the food. That's how you get people to stay is the food. Ethnicity, Hispanic adults 59% reported the highest attendance, followed by white 53 and black 49. We fucking up. You a movie guy? I am actually I do be going. I feel like it's like the last little bit of my youth that I'm trying to claim to it just it feels good when some when adult movie comes out to you know, go see it. I see it on a big screen. I'm surprised that younger people go more than old people. Yeah, that was that was like old people love movies. I think streaming is just the convenience of it. Yeah, just well that's but that's another reason like more young people stream stuff. So I would think they don't go to the theater as often. Right. I don't know. I don't know what the sample size is as well. This is a Pew Research poll actually. I enjoy a nice theater but I can't go to one that just has that was like it is in 2005 with the stadium scene. It's got to have recliners. Yeah, got to have like good food. But in that situation, I like a theater and I always bring a burner to I'd be nervous Colorado got me. Don't say that. I get nervous. I don't go to the movies like that because I get nervous. I do not have something to bring with me like that. But I can't I can't do movies very often because I get so I don't trust that shit because like I mean a regular worker like he just be walking and bringing somebody food. I'm like what's this thing like what's up with you? I am I am hyper aware in movie theaters and it kind of bugs me out sometimes. Yeah, but when you got the burner though like it makes you feel a little bit better. It's your second memory right. I don't think you can bring in the movie theaters but correct. But then your movie experience is like ruined because you're worried about a mass shooting happening. I already am worried about a mass shooting. I just know that now that I got the burner. Okay, but I don't like that. Well, you got to you got to get you one guy and get you some that's what I'm saying. I don't think I need I need all that until you do. Say it's all saying rather be caught with it than call without one. Thanks. I don't I don't think Mad Dog is the one that needs to I don't think you guys need me with that. But I get so nervous and like movie theaters are shoot a unsuspecting passion. I don't think we need that myself on accident. Yeah, like I don't think I'm equipped. There is one gun you manufacture that that might happen but yeah. But what's this? There there's a SIG gun that has had some issues firing on its own. I didn't notice. Yeah, that's the P320 if you look it up. There's a there are several reported incidents of the gun firing without the trigger being pulled. P320 and doesn't have like a hair trigger on it to like if you just touch it like it's such a light amount of pressure that's required to shoot. No, it's just I believe the trigger is flat on it but it's most people didn't believe it until I think recently there was a guy in the Air Force that it happened to and then people were like well he probably knows what he's doing with the firearms so. So yeah probably. It seems like there might be some sort of issue. That'd be the one thing that if you're designing a gun you probably want to you'd want to test. Yeah, I would say that would be probably number one on my list is that it only fires when I tell it to. Yeah, that's kind of the point of having a gun. You don't want a gun that goes rogue. Right. Yeah. I'm not like a super liable when it comes to guns like it's whatever. I don't think we should have them but if we got them we got them I ain't tripping. But there was a gun I saw the other day and I was like come on though who the fuck needs this. It was a shotgun that's like automatic. This means about to be sick as fuck. You said what? Nothing. I said this means it's about to be sick as fuck. Bruh. It was a shotgun that you just hold the trigger and go who the fuck needs that. Like nobody needs that. That's ridiculous. That's crazy. Who needs what is it semi automatic? Well, no, that would be automatic automatic automatic automatic. Is it automatic shotgun? That's is that legal? It can't be. I don't know. I don't know. It was too. I was like, you know, nobody needs this shit, man. Get the fuck out of here. And then I'm thinking I could be AI but I should be fully automatic shotguns are legal in the US but are heavily restricted as machine guns under the National Firearms Act. Ownership requires ATF approval, a $200 tax stamp and registration. And they have to be made before May 19 1986. Like you don't need that. Nobody needs that. It was why I don't know. I've ever seen an automatic shotgun. Was it AI? Did you get AI? There's no way. It was it was like weeks ago when I saw it. I've seen it. I don't think I don't think so. It says they exist. I've just never seen one. Yeah, it didn't trigger my radar didn't go up. You know, so I'm pretty I'm pretty keen. I ain't boomerask when it comes to the internet. I got got by one. The other well, I don't think it was AI. I think it was just an edited video. Yeah, but it was this freshman in high school quarterback who was just throwing the the most perfect ball you've ever seen. Did you see that? A lot of people got caught by that. Yeah. And and I don't know, I guess they were cutting after the throw and then putting in something I don't know, but it was not 100%. This computer enhanced. Yeah. The zooms were too perfect on the ball. Yeah, right as the ball jumped out of his hand. Yeah. Everyone gets Scott though it happens. I mean, it's only going to get worse. Oh, Arion, I've got some some shocking news for you. Lay it on me big dog. You and and Jack Pasobiec. I'm sure you guys share brain. I'm fascinated to hear what you guys are in lockstep about a take. Yeah. What could this be? I have no idea. Who is this cat? I don't know who this is. Right wing guy is a big pizza gate guy. He's a guy with whom I can't imagine you share any opinions. So I'm fascinated to know what this is. One of one of our nation's largest culture war enthusiasts. Okay, so right wing pundit. Okay, lay it on me. Michael Jackson was the only one Hollywood called a pedo because he was the only one who wasn't. Wow. Jack Pasobiec. Arion Foster. Broken broken clocks right twice a day. I will I will I will go to town with anybody who wants to debate me on Michael Jackson. Anybody dog. Have you seen the new movie? I have not my kids. My kids are hounding me about it. We probably gonna go this weekend. It's supposed to be terrible. Really? Yeah. I haven't heard many good things. I mean, I mean, there just aren't many good biopic. The only really good biopic that I've really I was like a yo was no two. I'm sorry. There's two. Malcolm X. That shit was crazy though with Denzel. And then Ray Ray Charles with with with Jimmy Fox. That's them two were like unreal. Amazingly done. The acting was incredible. The script was dope. Everything was fire. Other than that, they've all been kind of man. All of them. All of them are kind of wack. So I'm not expecting too much. My daughter, my oldest daughter did go sit with her home girls. And she technically she really was the goat. I'm like, absolutely. Michael is a very bad movie with very good music that Antoine Foucault deploys to disguise the fact that Michael is a very bad movie. It's fine. I'm not expecting much. I know everything about him already. So I think we'll find out nothing I don't know. So yeah, shout out to that right wing dude for for for seeing the truth, seeing the light. Yeah. There's also another big there's a big debate going on amongst the right regarding a movie that's coming out on on May 1st, actually, this weekend. What an eel. It's Animal Farm. Oh, animated version of Animal Farm is coming. Yeah, yeah. The literary classic written by George Orwell comes out on Friday. They fucking love that guy. It debuted so or willing. It debuted back in June 2025. And they finally found a distribution partner. And the the partner that's distributing it has tried to engage several several people on the right to to do advertising for the film. And some have said yes, some have said no, I saw Riley Gaines tweeted out about it yesterday, saying it's a great film with a great message about how Marxism will never win. And then Tim Pool, Tim Pool is very woke to what what Riley Gaines is saying about it. And he's upset with her that she's taking money from the studio. And in fact, this is the new Animal Farm is a revisionist piece of of leftist garbage. So there's okay, there's a lot of discussion, a lot of really thought provoking discussion and debate going on amongst the influencers trying to figure out exactly whether or not Animal Farm is woke or not. I to be honest, that's great promotion for them. I did not know that Animal Farm was coming out this weekend. Until I saw them talking about it, you know, you know what else is not to not to derail your point, but a classic in our time. Lord of the Flies, a remake of Lord of the Flies is coming out on Netflix. Oh, no way. Yeah, who's in it? Do you know much little kids dog? I don't know the nicks. I'm looking at the cast of Animal Farm. It's pretty good cast actually. So Seth Rogan plays Napoleon. We've got Kieran Culkin, who plays Squealer, Glyn Close, isn't it? Steve Buscemi, Laverne Cox. Pauline was the pig if my memory serves me correctly. Yep. Woody Harrelson. Yeah, good cast. Anti-vaxxer, but I love Woody. Me too. I love that guy. But yeah, people are are debating about what the message of Animal Farm was and whether or not the new adaptation stays true to that or if it evolves into political commentary. If they if they made George Orwell get political. There's no way to say that. There's probably no person in American literary history that's as political as George Orwell. The man I'm saying the man the man went overseas to fight in the Spanish Civil War out of conviction. Like that's pretty fucking political. All of his shit was political. Very political. That's like that's all he wrote about, especially after he got back. Comedy. Yeah. Orwellian is a cool word though. I always I think about that like if it wasn't so cool sounding to say stuff was Orwellian would people say it? I think they'd probably just say dystopian instead, but Orwellian sounds like yeah, it sounds way cooler. It's gonna be interesting the remake. I'm gonna watch it. Lord of the Flies? No, I was talking about the Animal Farm. Yeah, well it's out this weekend. Has that been a movie before? I'm sure they probably tried to make it into a movie. Not that I had seen it. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. It was like I think it was like a little not animated, but like they had like live action like animals, but it was like fake. Of course, obviously, but like it was it was like a real one. I think so. Let me see. Seeing there's one from 1954. It did a live action animal Animal Farm in 1950. I got to see that. That was probably trash. It's a cartoon. Oh, I was thinking it was like Mr. Ed. No. Yeah. When was the book? 1999. Yep. That's what I thought. Napoleon Napoleon. You know that the book came out 1945. Didn't know it was that old. Oh, yeah. One of our greatest allegories. Today's episode of Macrodosings brought to you by Shady Rays. Quick question. How do these Shady Rays look the same? Make Big T look. Big T. How do they look on you? Aggressive, assertive. You look ready. Two adjectives. I would like to be described as you look ready for the summertime. The quality is super high on the Shady Rays. I've got another pair right here. Just as high as the quality $200 sunglasses I used to buy, but I'm not exaggerating. They do feel every bit as quality is solid as the big dogs out there on the market. Now, Shady Rays is one of the big dogs. Like I said, I spent hundreds of bucks on Shady Rays the other week stocked up for the summertime. I'm excited. I've got some great shades. 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Do we want to jump into some J Edgar? Or is there anything else, Arian, do you got anything on your mind? Arian. Almost quit golf again yesterday. Arian. Oh no. What happened? Arian. I was playing that part of my favorite course in Houston. It's called Locking Bar. I'm fucking rolling though. Rolling. I'm two over through nine. Right? Arian. So I was about to have a nice... Mind you, we play for the tips. This is a hard course. It's a good course. I'm moving. I'm 70 in sight again. End up getting a double. That's fine. I can rebound. I end up getting a double. So I shoot 40 on the front line, right? Which is I'm in line for 80, which is... That'll be a good... That'll be a good day. And then the next hole, I go double, triple, bogey. And it's just so fucking, fuck this game, dog. Fuck this game. I almost quit. I held it together. I kept my composure up to 84, which is a good score. But it's just this game. It's just what the fuck. You'll never quit though. I know, dog. I'm in an abusive relationship, dog, and I love her. You'll be playing this shit for 40 years. I know. I know. Is she going to be peeking my ass? And I'm going to tell her it's me. It's not her. I played with a guy last summer, just a random guy. I forget exactly how old he was in his 80s. And one of the other guys that we were playing with was like, yeah, he broke his back last year. And he's not supposed to be playing golf. And his wife doesn't know, but he comes out here still like four times a week. And she thinks he's somewhere else. I love that. Yeah, that is amazing. Yeah, man. It's just one of them games, though. But I seriously thought I had seven pars in a row. That was my record. I was balling. Everything's working. And then all of a sudden it just stopped. You just lose your swing thought in the middle of the round. Like, what the fuck was that? Yeah, just, I don't know. Nonetheless, I have a tea time today. There you go. And you go out there. You'll hit that shot and you'll be back. Yeah, I'll be back. You'll be so bad. How many days a week do you play? Weather permitting. Yeah, every fucking day. Love every fucking day. Like if I don't got some going on with my kids and stuff. Really excited. My son locked in. This is my oldest son. He's gonna turn 13 in like seven days. He's like, Hey, I need to come live with you for three months straight. Like no going back and forth because he wants to train for basketball. Like he wants to lock the fuck in. I'm like, there you go. Now you're getting it. I love it. It's nothing better when your kids choose that. Not for like, you know, he loves his mom, but okay, but he just knows like, yo, I got to lock the fucking and I'm excited for that. So like I'm gonna take like three months. And we going like, I'm really trained. I'm like, the shit that my dad put me through. It's gonna be fun. I'm excited about that little project. We really fine. Well, good luck. I hope that you got you go out there and you first hole immediately you're like, I'm back first shot. I mean, I'm back right now. I'm never I'm never gonna quit this stupid fucking game, but I almost be like, it's really just like, am I going to throw a club in the water today or not? It's basically what it is. Yeah. The good thing is though, my putting has been unreal lately. Like, I'm locked in. Like I'm having three put in like two, three rounds. Like it's getting scary with the putter. It's just right now my short game aside from putting is just killing me right now. Which I like my short game was my regular short game. I'm cracking 70 every time I go out there. I mean, so I'm cracking 80 every time I go out there. But it's like, I just I just do stupid shot, duff it all. It's just, I don't know, I'm gonna figure this shit out though. Maybe not. Yeah, why is it that sometimes you go out there and you just you like your short game has been really good. But then one day you just hit everything thin. I don't about fit thin. That's a low point issue. But for me, why my shit don't it's because I'll be in between swing thoughts for everything else. And they're all different. They're different shots. Your drivers different than your, your, your woods and your hybrids. Those woods and hybrids are different than your irons, your irons are different than your wedges. They're all different shots. And so like, like sometimes like when you correct something, and you start hitting that good, that fucks with the other thing. And you have to go back to how you was doing that. But that might fuck with the thing that you just corrected. It's just a lot of a lot of different shit like my sand out of the bunker has been costing me. But yes, it has spent about an hour and a half after the round to correct it. And I did. And now I feel like I'm very confident out of it. We'll see what that fucks up today though, you know, yeah, I do find that on the days where everything else is broken, but my short game is really good. I typically shoot like not bad, a pretty average round. It's the it's it's the if I was to like if somebody was like starting out golf, I would that's that advice I would give them. Get your short game, just work on your short game. That shit is the difference between like a 95 and 85. Did I like it will change around short game is everything. Everybody wants to work on the drives and then I get it. But short game will change your golf game. You'll golf. Hey, it's Hannah Montoya. Abercrombie's new summer drop is our latest obsession. There's tons of colorful swim flowy dresses, and they just released new linen blend matching sets. Everything feels so light and breathable. It's perfect for brunch or rooftop happy hours, just like you're on vacation shop Abercrombie in the app online and in stores. All right, you guys want to talk about J Edgar and the feds, the FBI alphabet boy alphabet the G men. That's what they called them back in the day, the FBI agents really called them the G men. Yeah, because they were like super clean cut and there was like a certain type of person. I guess you could compare them to was it Mr. Anderson in the Matrix movies? You know, that's it. Yeah, Anderson shit. But yeah, like, you know, clean cut, shaving, short hair, buttoned up. Goody two shoes kind of guys. They were called the G men. And that was that was J Edgar Hoover's preferred type of dude that he would hire. But Hoover worked for for the predecessor to the FBI. The Bureau of Investigations. And he worked for them going back actually to World War One. So people were getting drafted and going overseas and fighting. He had a family to take care of. He was like the breadwinner, even as like a younger kid in his family. So he decided to get a government job because if you got a government job back then, you were you didn't have to go into the draft and then go have to go into the service. So he started working for the Bureau of Investigation. And he had like a, I don't know if you call it like survivor's guilt, but he was always compensating for not having been in World War One when everybody else had to go over there. So he decided to make the Bureau of Investigations almost like, like he was going to make it almost like a branch of the military, like he would do a bunch of armed raids and they would be structured very similar to the military. And it was his way of kind of coping for the fact that he did not go serve in the Great War as they called it at the time. So he was named head of the entire agency in 1924. And he was 29. And then it got changed to being the FBI in 1935. And he was the first director of the FBI. And he, a controversial guy, he started a lot of the programs that they use to this day, like some good stuff and some bad stuff. So like, you want to do good stuff first or bad stuff first? Good. Well, it's probably good news is probably quicker. That's fair. Um, so he started like the National Fingerprint Registry. And he, uh, he made like a central depository for like different types of crimes, learning about different motives and, and ways that different crimes were committed so that there was a central place people could study, they could gather data and figure out how to make it. What do you feel about that? About a National Fingerprint Registry? Yeah. Well, so you, you're not in it until you do something where you have to be, right? Uh, yeah. So, or if you, you know, there are some people that are unfairly arrested for things. And I, hold on, don't you have to do it when you get your drivers license? I don't think that goes to the FBI, though. I don't think so. I didn't, I don't think I had to give my fingerprint when I got my license. Am I tripping? I think you only get put in it if you get arrested or you take a job that requires it. I'm not sure on all the, I think it's everyone that gets arrested. But it's more than that too, I think. I think there are some jobs. Some states do, some states do. That is a state, state thing in Texas you do. Interesting. But there are plenty of people who aren't in it. So I don't know. I, I mean, if you get arrested, I guess it makes sense that they would need your fingerprints. Although I would be fine saving that for if you get convicted of a crime. Yeah, but that's not the case. If you get, if you get arrested, the fingerprint and you, that goes to the FBI. I also think if you get, if you like buy a firearm and like you have to give your fingerprints for it for background check, I think that goes to the FBI in case you, in case they find evidence down the line that you've, that there's a fingerprints on a gun or something like that. I don't know that you have to do that. You do not have to provide fingerprints to buy a gun in most of the U.S. What about the states that you do though? Fingerprints are required for specific items like machine guns or in states with strict licensing such as Illinois for void renewals, certain applications and some New Jersey permits. So I wonder how much of that is shared with the FBI then. I'm sure all of it. But yeah, so they have a, the largest collection of fingerprints in the United States. So if, if they get brought in to help investigate a crime, they're typically the ones that would be able to do the best in terms of matching up prints. They've got a national forensic laboratory too. So when you hear like local police departments be like, we need more resources for going in the FBI, that means that they, they bring in those highly trained, hopefully federal agents to help the smaller ones assist with their, the investigation. So I guess I think that's a good thing, right? I think it's, I think it's good to have people that in theory should be better at tracking down criminals. Hmm. I don't know how I feel about that actually. I was just thinking about it. They still haven't found that kidnapper in Arizona yet. What kidnapper? Nancy Guthrie. Nancy Guthrie, yeah. Oh, I don't know about his story. The, the host of the Today Show, her mom. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They, they still open. Brother, they got nothing. Just kind of morbidly fascinating. Was she dead now? She got to be dead. Oh, well, yeah. She's been dead the whole time. But they don't know where she is, who took her anything. And it happened in January. Yeah. Okay. Now remember. And they have ring camera footage. Well, he's wearing a mask. But still they have something. Didn't have an old lady's crazy work. Yeah. It's, I mean, I mean, can have an anybody's pretty crazy, but like, old people, like, you know, I'm going to take this 80 year old. Like what? Mm-hmm. That shit is wild though. If you think about it though, I think the only way you can get away with a, a crime. These days is if it's just totally random, like someone you've never met before. That you have no connection to and you just randomly go. And even then, I have to imagine it's remarkably difficult. But so like kidnapping an old woman and like robbing her, I guess, in a way does seem like something that if you were to get away with something, like if they don't have it, if they have no idea who it is, like, you know, it's not somebody that knew her or anything. And you're not advocating for this clearly. Of course not. Yeah. Just sounds really like. No, I'm just like, if you, if you kill someone, you know, they're going to find you. Which are most murders are proximity and somebody, you know, usually the case. Right. I got out to Mama, Mama, Gery, Gery. I just, I don't think, I, I don't think it's possible to get away with too many crimes if you know the person at all. And even let's say this person didn't know the grandma. So many different like red light cameras, Toal Booth cameras, license plate readers, neighbors, ring cameras, like cell phone evidence. There's just so much stuff that they have to have. Right. I have no idea how, how anyone can get away with it for this long. That's, that's another thing. A lot of these murderers, maybe keeping a phones on them and they can ping you, doggy. Mm-hmm. So if you, if you are big D, if you are to murder somebody, stop, make sure, make sure you don't know them and make sure you don't have your phone on you. I can't go to jail. I could never. Even if you turn your phone off, they can use that as evidence too. Just leave it on and keep it in the house. Yeah. They were, wasn't that one of the ones in the, the Idaho murders? Like he turned his phone off, I think the night of the murder. I thought they had him close. Like they, man, man's wins zero, dark 30. Yeah, they did. They had him close and then I think he turned his phone off. And they, they can use that as evidence. If there's like a pattern, the only time that you've turned your phone off is like at the exact time that this happened. They'd be like, well that's, it's so funny to me, man. He said, yo, I'm about to lock in. He just turned his phone on. All right. I'm off the grid. When's the last time y'all turned your phone off? Like actively the other day, turned it off. I did it the other day. Yeah. I did it, uh, just kind of reset it. Um, because something wasn't working. So like I just reset it. I couldn't even tell you the last time I did it. I don't know. I don't know the last time I turned my phone off. Like silent is one thing. Do not disturb. Yeah. That's just a setting. I'm saying turn your phone off. I don't know big T. That's a great question. It might be years. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It might be years. I don't think mine might not be years, but it's months for sure. I don't ever turn it off. Like what would be the point of turning it? Like if you're getting on the plane, I think they tell you you're supposed to every few weeks to like just, just turn off and back on for a second. But I don't. You know what? I'm gonna give it a shot. Let's do it. Let's do a little factory reset. Okay. Everybody just turn your phones off. Listeners out there too. Well, no, because you're probably listening to them. Yeah. That's a bad idea. Bad idea. Yeah. Could be on YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. If you're not listening on your phone, go ahead and give a little factory reset, man. Everybody just turn your phone off. Turn it back on. It looks your battery breathe a little bit. Yeah. Turn it off. Now, okay. I remember when I turned it off last, I went to a Disney cruise. It wasn't a couple. It was, yeah, it was the summer in the summer. And this phone here peaked this. I had no idea. I'm walking at the little, at the cruise that they have. They have their own private island. And you go to the island and it's just people from the cruise that are just, you get like four or five hours or whatever. I go, this shit is, my phone's in my pocket. All my kids in a joint swimming. And they're like, come on out. I'm like, let's go. I go in the water and I'm literally soaking. This bitch was in the water for like 30 minutes in my pocket. Like I was literally chilling. By the time I realized I didn't know, so I dried it, turned it off, turned it back on. It shit works perfectly. I don't know by the grace of God. I think they say they're water resistant now, but that you're still not supposed to like submerge it for any period of time. This shit was submerged for like 30 minutes, like in the water, though, unreal. And this is the same one. This shit still works perfectly. Nothing wrong with it. It's a good product. Shout out to Tim Cook. He's stepping down. Tim Apple. Tim Apple stepping down? I think so. I think so. Yeah. Really? He's got to be old. He's 65. He just wants to go to Auburn Games. Is he an Auburn guy? Oh, yeah. Poor damn eagle. What did they say? Why he he stepping down? I don't know if they gave a reason, but the new CEO is like a long time vice president of the hardware engineering. So Apple. So he's been around. John Ternes. He's been around forever. As long as he can keep the culture alive. They kind of killed it when Steve Jobs died, actually. You don't think about it. You don't think about it. I don't know if you remember this, but like early on they refused to do celebrity endorsements. Not endorsements. Partnerships? Yeah, like for advertising, they just would never do it. They were like really staunched. Like our product is our product. And now they don't care their horse. They just do it. Yeah. What's the next Apple product? It's going to come out. It's going to like shock the world because I feel like we're overdue. They've been too quiet for too long. I feel like it has to be something AI related, unfortunately. They thought it was going to be the headset. Yeah, the headset. That thing stinks. Whoa. When was the last time you used it? Whoa, I think the last time I used it. The only usage I get from it is if I have a long plan right, I'll bring it. It's amazing to watch movies on. You're not in wherever you're at. That is dope as fuck. But other than that, it shit don't do nothing. It shit kind of weak. I'll give you that. I think I have, I've used it to have like three, four different screens on at once. But it feels like it's harder and harder to do that now because now they, if you play one, the other stops. But for a while, it was kind of cool. But then you're also just like sitting there in your living room wearing a headset by yourself. And it's not like it's not a great way to do anything. They didn't build out any like world for it. There's nothing for it. It's just regular Apple apps on your face. Yeah. They didn't do it. Like if they built something for it, I feel like it would be better, but they just, they didn't. Yeah, it's an iPad for your face. Can I use one of y'alls for my nine hour flight to Hawaii? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. All right. I want to try it for sure. It's okay. The battery life, not great. So you probably have to have like a separate like Mophie to plug in to the battery thing that it has. That's fine. Okay. But yeah, not great. Not great by Apple. It's very expensive. It is good for like VR gaming. I'll give them that. The, yeah. That's pretty sick, but also you're sitting there with a giant helmet on. And it never, it never works right the first time. You always have to like figure out and troubleshoot something. Once they get it figured out, it'll probably be a cool technology. What would be the best movie to watch on that? The Matrix. The training day. Oh yeah. I got to watch training day. That's when I'll watch it. You should. That's when I'll watch it. Training day, the Matrix and there's another one you didn't see. There's a lot of toning. And just, you know, run back to stand lot, you know? You may find it a little soft spot in your heart for it. It just, it doesn't, it's not, it's not for me. It's not. Everything you love. It's baseball. It's America. There's so many better baseball movies though. I just been eating a jet rod. I don't hate it. I don't hate it. It's just not. That might be why. My favorite. Tommy, what's the name? Tommy with the big hats, smalls. Come on, Doug. America, sweet America. Beautiful movie, Doug. Sandy or no, Wendy prefer corn. Yep. Come on, dogs. Ham Porter, I think makes a living now. Baby Ruth. He's at every like card show. Yeah. Signing autographs. I'm sure he makes a great live in doing it. He was a big time kid sports movie guy. What else was he? Was he also in the big green, the soccer movie? I've never heard of that. He was. Yeah. I forgot about the big green. Yep. What was the other one, the soccer kid movie that I liked? Had Rodney Dangerfield in it. I have no idea. Oh, ladybugs. Ladybugs, yeah. Yeah, you go to ladybugs. Lady, get those nail breakers. Yeah. Back in the day, we're aging ourselves right now. Don't mind it. Mm-hmm. Yeah, my childhood soccer movie was kicking and screaming. Good film. Still one of my favorites. I didn't like that one. She haven't seen that one. Oh, must watch. She's the man in another soccer movie. Can you stop doing that with the cup, please? Great film. Give the ball to the Italians. Nobody's smoking. Do you think? I could quote that entire movie. That and Feverpitch. Yeah, Feverpitch more so, but I could do kicking and screaming 90%. You think Ladybugs holds up? Oh, probably not, no. Maybe not. No. Ladybugs. Yeah. What's something on? What's something on? I don't know that. I loved it. I just remember watching it. Rodney Dangerfield was so funny. 14% on rotten tomatoes. That probably tracks. Yeah, that probably tracks. Yeah, I don't even recommend seeing it, actually. Forced to coach a girl soccer team. A salesman stacks it with his girlfriend's son in disguise. So this is a she's the man. God, I forgot about the whole plot. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I guess it's actually reverse. Yeah. I forgot about that shit. Yeah, his son plays on his soccer team to help him win or some shit like that. That's not flying today. What year is this from? 1992. Yeah. Oh, this has the woman who was the mom in like every Disney Channel show. Yeah. I don't know her name. All right, more Jaguar Hoover shit. What a transition. Yep. That's I think I pretty much reached the end of the good stuff. That he did like establish the natural. You got one thing. Well, the fingerprint and the forensic stuff. I count those as two things. He probably also rested some bad guys. I'm sure. Definitely rested some bad guys. So he knew the power of the press. He knew the power of like making a big show whenever he did anything. So he would he would try to take people out in like a spectacular show of force. Like when he got Dillinger and had a bunch of people just shoot him on the street. He that was like that was good for his his image. Like I'm a tough guy. Law and order tough on crime. He was initially very, very, very anti communist, anti anarchist and anti radical. So in 1920, there were thousands of people that he he rounded up claiming that they were communists, claiming that they were anarchists. Did not really have a whole lot of evidence to support the allegations. But he he arrested thousands of people and what they called the Palmer raids. And the attorney general was a man named Mitchell Palmer. And after the raids and the subsequent like fallout from it, they can really prosecute too many people. Palmer resigned specifically because of how bad the raids were. But then Hoover kind of skated by, even though he was the one that actually like did them, they were at the direction of Palmer. But Hoover was like, yeah, let's round up these commies. And then in 1921, Hoover got named assistant director of the Bureau. And then Calvin Coolidge later appointed Herbert Hoover as director of the Bureau of Intelligence. Now, one of the things that they say that that Hoover really dropped the ball on was investigating the mafia, La Cosa Nostra. Because he actually said that the mafia didn't did not exist. I like that. That's a big take of mine that they don't exist. I'm I'm coming around to it a little more. But yeah, I'm a big. I just I don't know something about it that they never existed or that they don't exist. More so currently. Okay. So it was a problem. I think at some point there was some iteration of what you would call the mafia. Yeah. And right now you don't think that that's an issue at all. I don't see it. Okay. There is a guy on TikTok who claims he was in the mafia, but he talks about all the people he killed and stuff. And I'm like, why are you not in prison? Yeah, also, he shouldn't be saying that on TikTok. Yeah, I think he became. Wait. So like, like the drug trafficking business is like a billion dollar business. Like it's run by people that are in the mafia. A lot of them. You don't think they exist? When you say the mafia. Like there's there. It's not one like like a mafia is just like a family or an organization that has a business around drug trafficking. Yeah, I think there are certainly groups of criminals that are engaged in organized criminal activities. I think we romanticize it in movies and I think you're thinking more. Italian. Somewhat. Yes. God. Think he's thinking Italian. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think maybe Italian drug trafficking is probably minimal. Yeah. That's all. I don't even understand that. Maybe they are, but I don't know. But there's definitely families that are in that shit. But yo. Sure. That's how you get the bump. That's how you get the blow. You know what I mean? Yeah. The Italians. Right. You could question if their power was taken away because I think that they were a much bigger force. But actually, let me let me rephrase. After reading about the initial raid where the FBI started to investigate the mafia, it raises a lot of questions. So, Jagger, whoever, he said that the mafia didn't exist. People be like, you know, talking about organized crime in America, the Italian mob, and he was like, that's his none of this is true. You guys are having a fever dream. Let's focus on the communists. Let's let's arrest more of them. They're the problem. But then 1957 came around and in November of 1957, there was a famous raid in Appalachian, which is near Binghamton, New York. Mackenzie, are you familiar with Appalachian? Yes. How big of a town is that? I don't think it's that big. Do you know anything about the raid that happened there? I do not. Well, first of all, that's Stolen Valor. They should have to rename the name of that town. But I agree. I agree. It's upstate New York. It's Poconos. Yeah. It's not Appalachian. My culture is not your custom. Correct. So there was a guy up there that lived in Appalachian named Joseph Barbera, and he was a beverage distributor. And he was also somewhat of a, he was known to law enforcement, put it that way. He had a meeting at his house with about 60 people that came by. Some would call that a party. But he had a lot of people over at his house in this tiny town in Appalachian. And there was a local police sergeant named Edgar Crosswell that overheard this guy, Barbera's son, trying to book rooms at a hotel nearby, calling like for a lot of rooms. And Crosswell was like, what's this guy up to? I know that he's like, he's a criminal. Why is he having this many people here? So he called up his boss and he was like, I need reinforcements. And let's set up a barricade. Because I'm seeing that there's a lot of, a lot of out of state licensed plates that are meeting at this house. So they set up a series of barricades outside of his house. And they arrested about 60 people that said that they were in the, or that would later be claimed to be in the mafia. They were heads of families. And they were known to their own local law enforcement situations. And they were all meeting together at this one house. And then that made the Department of Justice and the FBI revised their entire way of operating. And they started to arrest a lot of Italian criminals after that. So you, you be the judge. Is that evidence of a mafia? Having a big party? I guess we'll see. With 60 Italians at it. Is that a crime? The crime was having 60 Italians from different states. At the same location. How many Italians is too much? You tell me what is the number? It's obviously a conversation that somebody had to have. 60, we all agree. That's a crime. 60 Italians, too many is 50. That's actually hilarious. 40? If they're from the same state, I'm okay with 60 Italians. But if we're doing out of state plates, there's something going on. And I'm part, I can say it's a part Italian. Sure. 1% Sicilian. Yeah. But honestly, this is, it's pretty crazy that this is what it was that made them be like, yeah, the mob is real. Like it was one party that they had. It's a lot of the town. It says the population there is 2000. The population of Appalachian. Yeah. So it's a very small town. Very small. I used to drive through it when I'd go to college. It was on my way. Yeah. So the FBI's New York field office was put under a microscope because they should have been investigating the activities at the Appalachian estate. So they had 400 special agents at the FBI that were assigned to trying to find subversives, meaning communists, anarchists, things like that. And they had four that were in charge of investigating organized crime. Four. So before 1950s, almost every single file that J. Gruhuber collected was about communists. And then after that, there were some that were on criminals and gangsters, but they ended up having files on 25 million people over the course of J. Gruhuber's career. And before this raid, just about zero of them were about criminals, gangsters, things like that. They were all about communists. He saw communists as being the number one threat to America. It was after World War II, it was the Cold War. So he thought that that was priority number one. But then when they found this evidence of the mob going on, Hoover was like, let's do an anti-mob task force. And so he created the Top Hoodlam Program, which is pretty, that's pretty fucking cool, right? The Top Hoodlam Program, we can agree that's an awesome name for a program. And he used that to like track the top 10. He would put wiretaps. And the mafia fought back a little bit. And the mafia, a lot of people think that the mafia and Hoover had a relationship beforehand. And it was only until the giant meeting that made him take something, take notice of it. But a lot of people think that the mafia was blackmailing Hoover beforehand, or at least bribing him, by means of illicit photographs. And that's why Hoover did not go after the mafia until he had to. 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Shave less, glow more, find Nair and all major retailers. His handsome, long-time best friend that was also a loyal lieutenant in his FBI, they worked together their entire life. His name was Clyde Tolson. So Clyde Tolson was the deputy. He was regarded as being commonly accepted to be J. Edgar Hoover's longtime boyfriend. I don't know that they lived together for their entire lives, off and on, but they would eat dinner together every night. They would hang out all the time. And the speculation is that the mob might have had some photographs of J. Edgar and old Clyde. And then there was also the cross-dressing rumors. So would you rather live your life now or be like a top mob guy in the 50s? Oh, top mob guy in the 50s sounds pretty good. You get killed at 64. Dive my shoes on? Dive my shoes on? I don't know what that means. Okay. Not in the face? Uh, would you... I want to have an open casket for the family. So if they're going to kill you, what would you want to happen to you? Do I see it coming? Yeah, you're executed. Okay. But again, shot in like the chest. Why would you want that? That's worse. Open casket for the family. You're going to get your chest blown open and then have an open casket? So the wife, the kids at Goumard. Yeah. I want to come by and pay their respects. All right, you can get killed however you want. Oh, no, no, that wasn't Goumard. You don't know Goumard? Goumard is the girlfriend. I think I do. That's the girlfriend. Huh? That's the girl. Side girl? That's the girlfriend. Yeah, if you watch like Goodfellas or the Sopranos, they're like, I think it's in Goodfellas where it's like Fridays are for the Goumard, Saturdays for the wife, Sundays for the family. For the kids. That was like the rule back in the day. It's the original Saturdays are for the boys. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it was. No, I don't. I got a pretty good life right now, Big K. Yeah, you do. I don't know if the being a gangster in the 50s is probably pretty sweet. That shit sucked, bro. What are you talking about? If you were a top gangster. Dog shit. Top little guy. No GPS. That's the first thing you go to? Absolutely, bro. The funnest shit you could do in the 50s is torture nowadays. But you didn't know it existed. So. But you do. True. Yeah, they had golf. Trash. That shit was trash back then. The balls weren't going as far. The courses were about to not go as far either. You had to hit with lack of people weren't allowed to go on the courses. Big T. Backer Vance. Fair enough. Oh, back. What a good movie. Right. There's nothing I want to do in the 50s. This era is the era I want to be in. And honestly, it might be the best era of all time because the shit's going to happen after we go. It's going to be fucking stupid. It might be stupid. This AI shit's pretty stupid. What if we're living in the last like real. Like we, I don't know how to phrase this. In 20 years, everything just might be fake. Like you might just do everything. Surrogate. Yeah. They're one. You won't even have like a real life. Yeah. You might have you might have your consciousness uploaded to a a pestlebot and he goes out and does shit for you. Wally, you just sit in your room getting big as shit. What if we live through the last like time of people living their lives fully autonomous? Could be man. You seen Wally. Yeah, of course. Could be like Wally, bro. We just hovering around on our little moped hoverboards watching our screens. I don't know. What would your day be like in the 1950s if you were top hoodlin? Strage. You wake up, probably have a like what town are we living in here? Big T New York or Vegas? No, Northeast for sure. Okay. So Jersey, New York. Yeah. Let's say Jersey City. Okay. Jersey City. I wake up in the morning. Probably not in that big of a house, right? Probably like, Oh, let's say you're out in Jersey a little bit. Okay. All right. You gotta put a suit on. Yeah. Put my suit on. I, yeah, I think I have a six suit. I wear my suit before breakfast even. That's the one thing this era doesn't do. We don't dress up anymore. Like we do comfort back then. Like everybody dressed up. Everybody had like, there was a like public decorum, like a public fashion decorum. We don't have that no more. Bro, people went to baseball games in suits 50 years ago. Mm-hmm. So I'm saying, that's what I'm saying. Like you gotta dress up. Or get on flights. And it just sucks. I would like to see the flight. The airport has gotten a little too out of control. Okay. Sean Duffy. Who's Sean Duffy? What does it matter to anyone else? Secretary of Transportation that wants to put pull up bars in airports. I don't know about all that. You just can't wear pajamas. I have no problem with pajamas. Who cares? You gotta be comfortable on a long ass flight B. Yeah. What's what? Wear a pair of sweatpants. But I think people are saying that. I'm talking about like cookie monster pajama pants. I love that. How often are you actually seeing that? Almost every time. I've seen that in 10 years. No way. I'll take a picture on Friday. Okay. I never once thought that that was a problem until I was recently told that I should have a problem with pajamas on airplanes. Right. It's a good family. Who told you? It doesn't matter. I think you might have told me that. It's possible. I don't know. It uh, I have worn wore shoes on a plane in 10 years. Okay. So wait. All right. So wait. That's disgusting. You do when you get on the plane, do you have shoes? You're wearing slides. Slides. Okay. Like socks or no? Yeah. Always with socks. Okay. That's fine. If you said no. I got to, I thought you were saying like you got on a plane. Well, I look like a no socks kind of guy. Is that the vibe I give off? I thought you were saying you get on the plane and you take your shoes off. Same. Yeah. No, I just haven't worn shoes. Okay. Well, I mean, like closed. Yeah. He's, he kind of does have his shoes off. Yeah. True. If you're just wearing slides, I mean, yeah, and then I slide them underneath the thing. Absolutely. Oh, so you, you take even the slides off. Absolutely. So when we were talking about having your shoes off on a plane the other day, you didn't feel compelled to speak up? Well, I mean, I didn't feel like you were talking about me. I didn't know I was. Because if my, because if my slides is on, there's not much difference if they off. I know, I agree with you. That's what we're saying. So yeah, I'll be, I'm gonna shoes off on a plane. I am the culprit. That's a little nuts. Shoes off on a plane? Yeah. Annika does it. She always posts about it. I don't like that. Like I don't got my feet all like in people's faces. You know what I'm saying? What do you mean? Well, yeah, but for people that do take their shoes off on a plane, it's not that they're in your face. It's that they're in the vicinity of your feet probably smell. My feet don't smell though. What do you mean? Not if you have slides on all day. I agree. They're getting air, a constant airflow. But if you got 99 times out of 100, I'm coming from my house to the airport. Fresh out in the shower. New socks on brand new socks. Brand new socks. You put on a brand new pair of socks every time you fly. I'm kind of anal about socks though. Like I got a lot of socks. I think that the vast majority of people, I do have a lot of socks too. Aaron, you're probably, you're talking the number one. So when I signed my extension at Barstool Sports, the very first thing that I did, I went across the street to like TJ Maxx or whatever it was. And I came back with like 70 pairs of fresh socks. Well, that's not what you're going to buy in socks. And then I laid down, I put them out in my bed like it was the cash and breaking bad. I just laid down on brand new socks because that's all I ever wanted. Made a sock angel. I love it. All I ever wanted was enough money to just wear, just constantly refresh my socks. Once maybe twice a year, all new socks. I'm a sock guy. I got fresh socks a lot of the times. I got new socks. It's rare that I don't got like fresh socks. I don't have any kind of like hoarder fillings with them. I depart. I don't need them. Yeah. Like if they outworn, they welcome, like it's time to go. Yeah. New socks. So I'll be fresh on the plane. All right. You might be fresh on the plane. A lot of people aren't when they take their shoes off though. It's fair though. It's dusty. You know what I mean? Yeah. If you, if you, if you have questionable socks, that's dusty characteristics. And you, and you got to like grow up a little bit. Hey, this is PFT from part of my take. A terrible call by the refs, a back breaking interception in the red zone, brutal clock management at the end of the half. When the season has you ready to snap, don't break. Snap into a slim gym instead. Slim gym is not just a meat stick. It's the OG. Slim gym is the bold, spicy snack that snaps back. No fumbles, no bad calls, just bold flavor that can never be sidelined. So if your team has you feeling like you're ready to snap, call a timeout and snap into a slim gym. Yep. I agree. But yeah, if I was a head of the mafia back in the 50s, wake up, have breakfast. Somebody comes in as you read the paper. You read, you know, someone walks in, they tell me about some issue I got to take care of. Then I have somebody go out and take care of that issue. You told Tommy at the deli didn't pay his due diligence. I told him, I told him. I'm done talking. Yeah. And that's the thing. You got lieutenants. Like you don't have to do all this shit. Yeah. It feels like also if I'm the head of the mafia, here's the thing, head of the mafia back in the day, a lot of decisions you got to make. Sure. Like heavy is the head that wears the crown. I don't know that it would really be that fun. What's the fun shit you're going to do though? You know what I'm saying? You, okay, go to a Yankee game maybe. Oh, you got good seats. What do you do that's just like full on? You're off the clock having fun. What are you like? Like a skating rink? Do they play like poker or like cards? Almost certainly. Yeah, play some cards. So I guess my final answer, big T is I'd rather be me right now. Yeah. What? Well, I don't know if you want to put a number on it. What income threshold now would you have to be before you'd rather? That's wild. Like would you rather be making? If I was making like $25,000 a year right now. Right. Or be the head of the mafia in the 50s? Yeah, probably the head of the mafia in the 50s. I think, yeah. Head of the mafia in the 50s, how much do you think you're pulling in then? Like in today's cash? I mean, I don't know. Because remember this is before they got like into drugs. Drugs were, you do drugs. What were they doing? I have to say goodbye. What were they making money? Making money on like local gambling. Okay. Running numbers. I thought there was always into drugs, no? No, no, they didn't like drugs at all. The old school guys, they thought that associating with drugs meant that you would then bring in like unsavory, untrustworthy criminals. Huh. Yeah. Yeah. Not above my mafia lore. Yeah. So in today's money, if they weren't doing drugs, top guys were probably making. There's gambling, things fall off a truck that you can then sell. 300. In today's money? Yeah. 300,000? Yeah. For the top guy? No, I think way more than that. Way more? I think way more. Yeah. Million? I think you were probably making like top guys, three to five million a year. No. Adjusted for inflation. No. I think so, yeah. That's a lot. We can look it up. I don't know that there's reliable. You kind of did that in the 50s. You'd have to go to a library. Yeah. Anything you want to go to the Dewey Decibel system? Say that one more time? Dewey Decibel. I forget. Okay. Did you know that you can get, you can request your FBI files? Yeah, it's public. Yeah, you can see if the FBI has a file on you. How do you do that? I think the FBI website. Should we all do that? Yeah, we should do that. They got me. So just go to FBI.com. You can just Google it and be like, how do I get access to my FBI files? And it's a process. I don't think it's immediate. Oh, I'm in. You're in? You've hacked in the mainframe? Yeah. I love that shit. Is it just a, is it a FOIA request? It's an E-FOIPA. It's some offshoot of FOIA, yeah. You can find your FBI file by submitting a freedom of information slash privacy act request online by mail or via email. I'm on the FBI vault, which I don't know how, it's a government website. I searched my name. I was kidnapped 22 times. What? Yeah. In different, in different varieties. There have been 22 Madeline Conroy's that have been kidnapped? It says, actually, I don't know if it's 22. There's 22 results of me and all of them are from before I was born, but it's, most of them are massacres, kidnappings, and yeah, massacres and kidnapping. The Bremer kidnapping, whatever that is. That's kind of crazy. Poor girl. I'm signing up right now. And FOIA logs from 1980 through 1999. I wonder if that has anything to do with me being born. Word. Can you look up Arian's name? I bet you it's people like at the FBI doing fancy football drafts, like on an email thread. I guarantee you there's somebody that's talking about that. On my end, I see little to do. There's a FOIA log in 2016. Hmm. But it's, I can't. That's when we took a knee. That could be that. Interesting. Actually, probably, yeah. I probably tracked. Who was the head of the FBI then? I'll tell you. Was it Comey, wasn't it? Was that Comey? They got him for you, Arian. They finally got him. Is he? They nailed that son of a bitch. James Comey, he in trouble right now? Yeah, kind of. Yeah, he indicted. For? Indicted? Okay, so he, the indictment is for threatening to kill or physically harm the president of the United States. Oh, you can get like half the country with that shit right now. Oh, he got indicted again yesterday. He made a post, I believe on Instagram. Out of seashells. That's him. At the beach that said 86.47. Got it. I saw Kashpatel's clip about that. So unquestionably, that meant that he wanted to kill Donald Trump. With seashells. That's what the department of the, like, Comey is just an emotional, messy poster. The fact that he made it out of seashells is very funny to me. It's like, so solemn. And he thinks he thinks he's being poetic. Comey definitely spends like six hours in a field every day, writing poetry about his best arrests that he's ever had. Also, I just, I'm on the FBI's like list of previous FBI directors. Robert Mueller took office as the FBI director exactly one week before 9-11. What a bad timing. Yeah, that's tough. Your first week on the job, 9-11 happens. Yeah. That's, that's, that's bad. And you're the FBI director. They had like, they had intelligence before that though, didn't they? Oh yeah. They kind of, yeah. Yeah, if you're like one week on the job, that's, I don't think anybody was like it's Mueller's fault. No. You're still like, you're getting the keys to various offices at that point. Also, what a chin on that guy. Big chin, yeah. Huge chin. But yeah, that's a tough start to the job. I got to track down my, my FBI file, see if I have one. God, don't put my assistant on it, because I went to the website and that shit looks like a homework assignment. I'm off it. You put your assistant on it? Yeah, I'm going to. See, I need you to get my FBI files, please. And your assistant will do that? Yeah. That's it. Would that include like, you know how in the Epstein files and all that, there's just emails of like just random people. Would this include like if, if Comey had Arian on his fantasy football team and he said something about it, would that be in there? I think so. Yeah. Like. That might be different. That might be because I know that a lot of people have files on them and Hoover started that at the FBI, just like personally investigating and keeping files on specific Americans that he's expected of being anti-American. I think accessing those is different from a general Freedom of Information Act request, which would be, I would like to see every email that internal email at the FBI that included the name Arian Foss. So that's probably what we want. I would like to see that too. Yeah. I'd like to see both because for Arian, it's the chances of him having an FBI file or not zero for the kneeling thing, because that is something that like Hoover would have done. Obviously, like Comey's a little bit different than Hoover. But for a long time, Hoover kept files on anyone that showed any semblance of anti-American activity. And that's what they said Arian was doing and Kaepernick when they took knees. Like they were saying anti-American. I like the way you phrase that. I like the way you phrase that. That's what they said. Yeah. Yeah. The accusation was that you hate America. Absolutely. Which is why they would have kept the file on you. I want to know. Could be. I'll report back when I get my file. So he kept a list, Hoover kept a list of subversives. Here's some names on that list. There's one that's just, I'm going to save it for last. Okay. But these are the following people were on his list of potential American subversives. Marilyn Monroe, Muhammad Ali, Eleanor Roosevelt. That's the first lady. Jackie Robinson, John Lewis, MLK, Walt Disney, Charlie Chaplin, the monkeys, Lucile Ball, Rock Hudson, Truman Capote, John Lennon, Yoko Ono, Gene Seabird. I mean, Eleanor Roosevelt being on there is kind of wild like the first lady. Yeah. Like you kind of like, yo, I don't know about this dude's wife, but he also was. So I was just reading this thing real quick. Anthony Summers in 1993 described Hoover as a bisexual with failed heterosexuality. Okay. Maybe just had some against women. He might have. Yeah. John Denver was on the list. Abbott and Costello. I'm personally offended by that. Which one? Costello? Abbott and Costello. I mean, those are two all American, they're in the baseball hall of fame. Costello probably because he was Italian. Abbott, what's Abbott doing on this list? Yeah. What's on second? Yeah. What's on second? I don't know, place third, right? I forget all of them. Can you, can you line up? Yeah, I don't know, third base. Who's on first? What's on second? I don't know, third base. Yeah. Is today and tomorrow, are they on the team? Are they, maybe pitcher or kicker? I think so. Yeah, I'd have to go back and look. All timer. Look up that lineup. Look at that lineup. I got who on my fancy team. Okay, do you want the whole thing? Yeah. Yeah. First base who, second base what? Third base, I don't know. Short stuff, short stuff. I don't give a damn. Left field, why? Center field because right field unnamed in the routine. Pitcher, tomorrow catcher today. So they didn't even talk about right field? Yeah. That's kind of a big, that's an oversight on Abbott, Costello's part. Did they do anything else besides who's on first? That's the only thing I know of them. Yeah, but it was a banger. They're in the baseball hall of fame because of it. Yeah, it was a banger. Ari, are you familiar with that? No. You don't know who's on first? I am not, what is that? Must watch. Yeah, go watch who's on first. I don't know that there's any really comedy from the 1940s that could make me laugh, but this other than who's on first, it's still hilarious. I haven't watched it in years. Years. Why? Because nobody, I don't know, I don't give a darn what who. No, you got to watch it. Yeah, watch it later, watch it later. Okay, yeah, I'll watch it guys. But then other names on that list, Aretha Franklin was on there, and then the one that I left off and wanted to save to the end. On the- Aretha on there? I have no idea. But on the list of his subversives, anti-American subversives, was also Helen Keller. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, you never know what her does. What's she hiding? Have we done an episode on Helen Keller? I don't know that we have. I don't think we have. We need to. Helen Keller, the perfect cover story. I don't think we have. Because that shit's fake as hell. No, we have not. That's next week. All right, next week we, Helen Keller ended up. But, J. Edgar Hoover thought that she needed to be monitored, I guess. I don't know, I can't imagine why. I like that. Why? Because something was up. Keep an eye. There's no way. The whole Helen- We'll do this next week, I'm excited. Yeah, that's wild. She was a wild story. She was on the FBI watch list. Because she was a, I guess she was a communist or a socialist. But she, that's what the FBI said. She was an activist that would raise awareness and kind of like try to help people that were blind, help other people that were blind, and let people know like we need to put more thought and care into public facilities for blind people, which I think is probably a very good thing that we hadn't thought much about until then. Yeah, he ain't fucked with that. And he was like, this sounds like socialism to me. Yeah. And I think, I don't know, we can talk more about Helen Keller. There's a lot of different reasons why people can be blind. I'm all speculating here. A lot of different reasons why people can be blind. One would be like congenital, they're born and they can't see. One would be like, you know, some happen to them as a kid. Another would be like, if they work in an unsafe work environment and they're blinded by machinery or chemicals. And if you start lobbying for people in their workplace too hard, especially back in Helen Keller's day, that's starting to sound a lot like communism. Like the union, the union conversation. Well, fuck we're union here. That might be a reason why, but yeah, he had a file on Helen Keller. I hope that he was getting constant updates on like what she did today. I mean, Helen Keller, the fact that she will get into Helen Keller. I'm glad that Big T is a is a truth. I feel strongly about Helen Keller. Okay. People also think that Hoover might have been part of the JFK assassination. Oh, yeah, really? Yeah. So when Kennedy got shot, LBJ became president and Hoover was boys with LBJ. And Hoover was supposed to retire when the day that he turned 70. But the fact that he was friends with LBJ meant that LBJ could give him an exemption and let him stick around for additional like nine years until he died. There was also the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald dropped off a note with the FBI. He dropped it off in Dallas 10 days before the shooting of JFK. And the note that he dropped off was for a guy named James Hosty. And then Hosty destroyed that note the day that Oswald was shot to destroy that evidence. And then he acknowledged that there was a note in 1975. And he said it was a note from Lee Harvey Oswald to this guy to stop harassing my wife. But he destroyed it because it looked bad that the FBI had received some sort of communication from the assassin 10 days before the assassin shot Kennedy. Sounds kind of fishy to me. Interesting. Yeah, a lot of people say that Hoover knew about the different plots to shoot Kennedy. People also think that Oswald might have been an FBI informant and the FBI told him to kill Kennedy. And the other scenario is that Oswald told the FBI that there were plots to kill Kennedy. And then Jack Ruby was an FBI informant. And then Jack Ruby killed Oswald after the fact to cover up at the request of the FBI. So the idea that he was a cross dresser or transvestite comes from one source. Like transvestite. Yeah, like transvestite. Yeah, like dress up like a man who dresses as a woman. I thought a transvestite was somebody who had both parts. That's intersex. Yeah. Or hermaphrodite. You might be thinking hermaphrodite. I mean, it was an ight. Yeah, transvestite. You don't really hear about transvestite that much anymore. Back in like the 90s and 2000s. It was like, yeah, if you cross dressing person, transvestite. But there are rumors that Hoover liked to get dressed up as a woman, especially at parties. Like get dressed up in full drag, wearing like heels, stockings, dresses, makeup, wig, that whole thing. That all. Interferming. Yeah. That comes from a report from one person. So there was one person. She was a society divorcee, a socialite from Washington, D.C. named Susan Rosenstiel. What a name. And I believe she was also a convicted perjurer, perjurist. She committed perjury. Okay. So she was like a convicted liar. Perjurite. Perjurite. Oh, I'm making a mistake. A socialite perjurite. I don't know. Yeah. So who knows if that part's true, but she said that she was at a party at Plaza Hotel, 1958, and Hoover showed up wearing a fluffy black dress with flounces and lace stockings and high heels and a black curly wig wearing false eyelashes, a short skirt. He was sitting there in the living room with a suite with his legs crossed. Roy Cohn introduced him to me as Mary and he replied, good evening. You'd never seen anything like it. I couldn't believe it that I should see the head of the FBI dressed as a woman. So this woman is the only source and she is, as I said, she perjured herself in an unrelated case in the 1970s and then she became the subject of an FBI investigation because of her husband's bootlegging connections. But there are some connections to Roy Cohn and Jay, Roy Cohn is the lawyer. He was the chief counsel of Joseph McCarthy during the communist witch hunts of the 1950s. He was also the guy that gave Donald Trump his start in New York politics and his fixer, his advice guy, like super connected lawyer in New York, probably the most feared lawyer in the history of New York. And he was boys with Jay Grohoover. Roy Cohn was also a gay man that denied he was gay. And he died in 1986 of AIDS saying that it wasn't AIDS. And he would hang out and party quite a bit with Jay Grohoover. So, I don't know, you make the call on that one. He might have gotten dressed up at a couple parties, but the fact that this one lady said it, it followed him around for the rest of his life. And that's where everybody gets the idea that he was a constant crossdresser comes from. So that part might not have been true, but he did live with his mom until he was 40. And he had a very handsome deputy, Clyde Tolson, that probably dated until they both died. Was he living with his mom when he was head of the FBI? That's fascinating. I see, you know how we were talking about like our ideal head of the FBI last week? And like what we would, instead of a guy like Caspital, cool guy, I'm sure I'd like to watch a hockey game with cash. Maybe like go out to a few bars. Maybe go to his girlfriend's concert. Yeah, check out his girlfriend's concert. Do I want this guy like working in the FBI, let alone heading it? No, like I don't want any of my friends. I can't name a single person that I know that I would want to head the FBI. So not necessarily like a knock against you as a person, but we were talking about like our ideal FBI director the other week where it's like a guy that he goes home, he eats the same dinner every night at like 9pm. 9pm. 8, 9pm, because he works all day, dude. Okay. Yeah, he's taking meetings late. He's a work hauler. You want a psychopath, you want a man on fire? You want a psychopath at the head? I want a guy that is no nonsense. Cash is like 90% nonsense. Maybe more. And nonsense is great in certain regards, not to head the FBI. But are you saying that living with your mom at 40 is something you would want or not want? I think I would probably be okay with, yeah. Interesting. You never had time to like get your own place. Like work becomes your spouse, you know? She goes like, go out and meet a nice girl. Is your mother too busy with my job? Yeah, she's a good girl. Is your mother too busy with my cases? But he takes good care of her. He takes good care of his mom. That's like his number one thing. She's actually the one that's like trying to drag him out of the house on a Saturday to go like play bingo. And he's like, I can't, I just, I gotta solve this kidnapping. Going with this Tom Fullery, mom. Yeah, I'll pick you up, mother. Just give me a call. So yeah, he drops her off at bingo, then he just goes right to the office, picks her up later. Goes home, has his one nice glass of scotch, maybe on a Saturday. And that's it. That's the nonsense that I want from my FBI. So I'm not going to hold it against Jay Gerhoover, the fact that he lived at home until he was 40. Which is, that's a long time to live at home now that I think about it. Yeah. Yeah. So he was, yeah, he kept files on everybody, as I said, had his own very special vendettas against everyone who's power hungry. But the FBI, as we know it, exists pretty much in the image that he set forth for it. So he built the FBI from the ground up. So everything about it, that is directly like from his brain, the use of informants, the use of wire taps, like when he wire tapped MLK, that was probably against the law, definitely against the law. And he would wire, he wire tapped JFK's bedroom. He had his intelligence chief put a microphone in JFK, or sorry, MLK's bedroom. And then after that, he sent the, he sent MLK a recording of him having sex. Just being like, hey, you should probably kill yourself because we caught you having sex. Yeah, no, they actually sent a letter to him saying like, you should, you should kill yourself. Yeah. He was like upset. He called Martin Luther King like the greatest threat to American. Yep. The American way. Like, he was upset. He was obsessed with black liberation movements. Got Fred Hampton killed. We wanted to disrupt the Black Panthers. And so Black Panthers were known for, you'll hear some dingbats still say to this day that the Black Panthers were a terror. It's organization. But like literally all they did was like, they had free breakfast programs. So they were giving people free breakfast and free healthcare in the neighborhood that they was in. And when reported back to him that that's what they were doing. He's like, I'll care. Yeah, do that. Yeah, you just wanted to disband it. Yeah, because Black Panthers were communists though. Yeah, he did say that the, it was, he saw the civil rights movement and anti-war movement as going hand in hand. And so if you support one, you support the other and you are a communist. And he called the civil rights movement the greatest threat to the stability of the American government since the Civil War. They're enemies of the state. In particular MLK Jr. was an enemy of the state. And he, he went to Bobby Kennedy and John Kennedy and told them like, hey, this MLK guy, he's bad news. He's a communist and they're using you. So if you, if you like MLK and you endorse MLK and what he stands for, they're actually secretly going to bring in a bunch of communists behind that. And they're going to infect the United States with, with communism. So you better stop hanging out with them. I'm going to wiretap them. And he said that he sent his guy, Mr. Wiener, to go wiretap the bedrooms. Wiener said, when it came down to bugging bedrooms, you had to be careful not to get caught. But there wasn't anything to stop him. He decided up to a point where the boundaries of the law were when it came to black bag jobs, break ins, bugging surveillance, and the constitutionality of getting secret intelligence on America's enemies, both real and imagined. And the FBI also, this is where it gets kind of crazy. They also bug JFK and taped him having sex. And if you got information about that, you're never going to get fired. So he had blackmail like on his boss. That's wild. Yeah. So he's the reason why there's a 10 year limit on FBI director. Because no one man can have all that power. Shut up. Shut up Kanye. Yeah, he was doing too much. He started getting too much power and started doing way too much crazy shit. I think we ended up owning him though in the long term because the building, the J. Edgar Hoover building, is an absolute trash looking building. A lot of the government buildings in DC are though. Yeah, that's true. They all look Russian. The Hoover building in particular is, it's terrible. It's a disgusting looking building, a low rise office building. You'd think for a city with so many monuments and ornate stuff, like the government buildings would be nice, but they're terrible. Yeah, at the time I had the nicest government buildings in Washington DC, I would say the White House is a nice looking building. Yeah, but I'm talking about like the department of the interior building and all that stuff. I think 1-1 is just the Kennedy Center. It's not even like a department though, just for the arts. That's a really nice looking building. The congressional office building is nice-ish. Yeah. But like the, I stayed one time, my hotel was right next to, I think it was the Department of Education. Yeah. And it was just like the worst looking brutalist building you've ever seen. Let's see, I'm looking up one right now because I think I remember the Health and Human Services building. Oh no, that's a bad one too. They're all just concrete blocks. Yeah, that's a really bad one. That might be the worst now that I'm looking at it. This one. See that? Yeah, it's terrible. Terrible building. It does look like the government though. I think I walked through there one time. But yeah, Hoover Building Stinks. Hoover Dam is awesome, but that's different Hoover. I didn't know that. That would be Herbert. Herbert Hoover. Really? Yeah. Today's Macrodosing is brought to you by Stella Blue Coffee. It's more than just great coffee. 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