Nightcap

Best of NFL News Part 1: Kyler Murray still a FRANCHISE QB or WASHED UP, ROASTING Cowboy Fans for BELIEVING 30 Years of Jerry Jones “Our Year” Lies

58 min
Mar 7, 20263 months ago
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Summary

The Nightcap episode covers NFL offseason moves including the Dallas Cowboys' repeated failed promises, Kyler Murray's release from Arizona, the Chiefs trading Trent McDuffie to the Rams, and analysis of combine performance versus on-field production. Hosts discuss quarterback situations across multiple teams and evaluate whether fast combine times translate to actual football performance.

Insights
  • Jerry Jones makes identical offseason promises annually without follow-through, creating a cycle of false hope among Cowboys fans despite 30+ years without a Super Bowl appearance
  • Fast combine times don't guarantee on-field success; running fast in a straight line differs fundamentally from playing fast with game awareness and route proficiency
  • Teams increasingly prioritize youth and cap flexibility over retaining aging veteran players, even productive ones like Stephon Diggs and Kyler Murray
  • Quarterback availability and health directly impact receiver production; Trey McBride's stats changed dramatically between Kyler Murray and Jacoby Brissett
  • Dual-threat quarterbacks may limit offensive playbooks for teams with elite receiving weapons that benefit from traditional pocket passers
Trends
NFL teams moving toward younger rosters and salary cap efficiency over veteran loyaltyIncreased scrutiny of combine metrics as predictors of NFL success; film study prioritized over measurablesQuarterback scarcity driving trade market; teams willing to pay premium for proven startersDefensive secondary becoming premium investment area across NFC teamsRunning back position devalued; teams reluctant to pay top-tier contracts despite Super Bowl performanceOffensive line restructuring becoming standard offseason priority for contending teamsReceiver market inflation; teams overpaying for proven talent in free agencyCoaching staff changes creating 'reset' narratives for underperforming young playersMobile quarterbacks creating offensive scheme limitations for teams with traditional receiver talentDraft capital consolidation; teams trading future picks for immediate roster needs
Topics
Dallas Cowboys Offseason Strategy and Cap ManagementKyler Murray Free Agency and Quarterback MarketNFL Combine Performance vs. On-Field ProductionTrent McDuffie Trade to Los Angeles RamsMinnesota Vikings Quarterback SituationStephon Diggs Release from New England PatriotsKeon Coleman Year 3 Development and MaturityJustin Jefferson Top-5 Receiver Ranking DebateRunning Back Contract Valuation in Modern NFLDefensive Secondary Investment PrioritiesOffensive Line Restructuring and Contract RestructuresNew England Patriots Organizational CultureArizona Cardinals Coaching Staff ChangesKansas City Chiefs Roster Building Around Patrick MahomesNFL Free Agency Strategy and Team Building
Companies
Dallas Cowboys
Primary focus of discussion regarding 30-year Super Bowl drought, Jerry Jones's repeated offseason promises, and defe...
Arizona Cardinals
Releasing Kyler Murray and evaluating quarterback options; new coaching staff implementing system changes
Minnesota Vikings
Evaluating quarterback options including Kyler Murray and Kirk Cousins; discussing receiver production issues
New York Jets
Potential destination for Kyler Murray; discussed as better fit than Vikings for mobile quarterback
Miami Dolphins
Mentioned as potential destination for Kyler Murray and Malik Willis in free agency
Kansas City Chiefs
Trading Trent McDuffie to Rams; discussed roster needs around Patrick Mahomes and draft strategy
Los Angeles Rams
Acquiring Trent McDuffie in trade; discussed as improving defensive secondary
New England Patriots
Releasing Stephon Diggs after one season; organizational culture prioritizes football-only focus
Buffalo Bills
Keon Coleman's team; GM Brandon Bean discussing receiver's reset and maturity development
Los Angeles Rams
Discussed as contender with strong draft and roster building under Les Snead and Sean McVay
Seattle Seahawks
Mentioned as improving team under John Schneider; ranked ahead of Cowboys in NFC
Philadelphia Eagles
Discussed as successful organization under Howie Roseman and Jonathan Sirianni
Detroit Lions
Ranked ahead of Cowboys; getting Laporta back with Amon Ra and J-Mo in receiving corps
San Francisco 49ers
Mentioned as top NFC team ahead of Cowboys in power rankings
Green Bay Packers
Mentioned in NFC power rankings discussion; compared to Cowboys' playoff positioning
People
Jerry Jones
Dallas Cowboys owner; criticized for making identical offseason promises without follow-through for 30+ years
Kyler Murray
Arizona Cardinals QB being released; discussed as franchise quarterback in right situation; potential free agent
Dak Prescott
Dallas Cowboys QB; discussed as needing to stay healthy; contract restructure planned
CeeDee Lamb
Dallas Cowboys WR; contract restructure planned; discussed as elite receiver talent
Trent McDuffie
Kansas City Chiefs CB traded to Rams; discussed as premium defensive talent; wanted to return to California
Patrick Mahomes
Kansas City Chiefs QB; discussed as enabling team to make premium trades; coming off injury
Stephon Diggs
Released by New England Patriots after one season; had 1000-yard season; discussed as potential Ravens target
Keon Coleman
Buffalo Bills WR; discussed as needing maturity development in year 3 with new coaching staff
Justin Jefferson
Minnesota Vikings WR; debated top-5 receiver ranking; discussed as potentially dropping due to recent production
Trey McBride
Arizona Cardinals TE; production changed dramatically between Kyler Murray and Jacoby Brissett
Jacoby Brissett
Arizona Cardinals QB; discussed as pocket passer whose arrival changed offensive production
Tyreek Hill
Discussed as example of player with track speed and football body; can stop on dime and run all routes
Brandon Beane
Buffalo Bills GM; discussed Keon Coleman's reset and new coaching staff impact
Joe Brady
Buffalo Bills new head coach; promoted from offensive coordinator; expected to help Keon Coleman
Malik Willis
Quarterback available in free agency; discussed as potential fit for Arizona or Miami
Marvin Harrison Jr.
Arizona Cardinals WR; discussed as returning to health with weapons around him
Mike Wilson
Arizona Cardinals WR; discussed as emerging talent playing like number one receiver
Jeremiah Love
Running back prospect; discussed as potential Chiefs draft target at number 9
Kirk Cousins
Discussed as potential Vikings QB option; compared to Kyler Murray for system fit
Ian Rappaport
NFL reporter; cited for reporting Kyler Murray's expected release from Arizona Cardinals
Quotes
"He never really does them. And he gets everybody excited because they always believe in some of the things that he says over the years. He's commencing now. Hell, he had me believe it. I'm like, damn, Jerry about to spin it. And Jerry don't spin it for anything."
Host discussing Jerry JonesEarly segment
"Speed without control ain't do you no good, Ocho. At all. That's like having a Ferrari with no brakes."
Host on combine performanceCombine analysis segment
"You got to be careful. Are they picking up for the right reasons or for the wrong reasons?"
Host on Jerry Jones hitchhiking commentCowboys discussion
"To everyone that supported me and showed kindness to my family and I during my time in Arizona, from the bottom of my heart, thank you. I wanted nothing more than to be the one to end the 77-year drought for this organization."
Kyler MurraySocial media statement reading
"You can be good, Ocho. You don't realize how successful you can be as long as you don't care who gets the credit."
Host on organizational successCowboys analysis
Full Transcript
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Stay for the story. 30 years since the Cowboys' last Super Bowl appearance, Jerry Jones says he had let the fans down with his team's championship drought. Jerry said, I really can't accept just the thought of winning one Super Bowl. And then what? I've got more time on my clock than in my mind. And so I don't see it that way. I see a chance to put the team together and basically be knocking at the edge and get another one or get another chance at another one. It runs that way, in my view. Make no mistake about it. If you told me, I could because I've done a lot of hitchhiking in my life. And I'd like to start you right now and hitchhike back to Dallas to win a Super Bowl. After 7-9-1 finished in 2025, Jerry promised changes. One change will be the team's approach in free agency. Jerry said, I would bet you that we'll spend more money in free agency than we have. he talked about, Ocho, they're going to redo the restructure contracts of CD, Tyler Smith and Dak Prescott. That'll free 60-plus million. Now, they also talked about doing something with the 3D tackles contract. That might free up another $20, $30 million. Now, you're going to have to overspend for George Pickens. We know that. You know that. I know that. You're going to have to overspend. But you should be okay with that. you brought a new I think they're going to a 3-4 I think they're going to a 34 defense right you can go whatever you want, you can go to a 34, you can go to a 25 you can go to a 3-3-5 you better have some hell raisers over there yeah, you got to I'm going to say it over and over again I'm not sure why Jerry always does this every offseason, gets everybody hyped up says all these things that he's going to do he doesn't really do him he never really does him No. He never really does them. And he gets everybody excited because they always believe in some of the things that he says over the years. He's commencing now. Hell, he had me believe it. I'm like, damn, Jerry about to spin it. And Jerry don't spin it for anything. You could have had Derrick Henry. I mean, you played Javante Williams 6 million. You could have had Derrick Henry for eight. Never mind. But go ahead, Ocho. I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. But listen, we all know what the Cowboys' problems are. We all know what the Cowboys' struggles are. It's never been on the offensive side of the ball. Never been on the offensive side of the ball. They've had great offense. But the issues of always their Achilles heel has always been on the defense end. So, again, obviously you've made some moves, you know, in the interior. But that's cool. But you still need impact players. You need one on the outside. Yeah, for sure. You need another one in your back line. You know, your secondary. You need someone to anchor that defense, you know, in the secondary. You don't have that. There's so many. You need definitely. Bland got to play better. He needs to play, have the type of season that he's played to get that contract, Ochoa. You remember he was picking off everything, taking it to the house? The PBUs were on point. He needs to play. He needs to have that type of season again. They need a backer. They need an inside backer. They need an inside backer. They do. They hadn't had one in a very long time. Once Vanden Bosch, the Wolf Hunter, got hurt and continually had the neck issues and had to retire, they haven't had somebody in that position. But they got to get a Hellraiser in that position. And as you said, they got to get somebody to go hunt the quarterback. Yeah, man. It's tough. I'm excited. I'm excited for the Cowboys. I'm not a Cowboy fan. I'm a fan of the players that play for the Cowboys. There's a difference. I get you. I'm excited for Dak and what they're going to do. I'm excited for CD. And I'm very, very excited because he's been through a lot, obviously, based on what he's caused most of it. But I'm excited for Piggins as well, you know, to have a season, And whether it's in Dallas or whether it's somewhere else, I just know he deserves to get his like everyone else has already gotten that's came out with him. So hopefully Jerry does right by him. The fans obviously believe in the organization. They believe in Jerry, even though, you know, things haven't worked out the past 30-plus years and not having any success. So, I mean, listen. You can be good, Ocho. You don't realize how successful you can be as long as you don't care who gets the credit. hey you see that situation in Seattle you see the situation in the Rams yeah Les Need and McVay John Schneider, McDonald Brett Veach, Andy Reid you look at Howie Howie Roseman in Philly and what's the guy's name, the coach of Philly who Sirianni yeah Sirianni but as long as you don't care who gets the credit you'll be fine yeah oh man Jerry said he would hitchhike back to Dallas to win a Super Bowl Jerry you said a couple of years ago You don't know the size of the check I would write if you would guarantee me a Super Bowl. Well, ain't no guarantee. That's the thing we love about sports. Ain't no guarantee. No, no. Ain't no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Ain't no guarantee. And it's easy for you to hitchhike. Hell, everybody go pick your ass up because they recognize who you are. You got to be careful. are they picking up for the right reasons or for the wrong reasons yeah yeah i mean i can't believe people still actually hitchhike i mean i see people i mean it should be a big thing when i was a kid though i mean yeah i grew up and i grew up and came up in late 60s early 70s when when hitchhiking was really a thing and people would like to hitchhike where you going well i'm headed okay i'm headed that way i'm headed that way too yeah What the hell? Hey, today? Hell no. Ain't no telling what's going to happen to you. It's way, way, way too dangerous. So we're going to see what Jared says. They're going to spend more money than they have, which is not true. Nobody has more money than the Cowboys. Nobody has more money than the Cowboys. But we're going to see. They're going to need to do something with Steele. I don't know if they restructure his contract. Maybe they release him. I don't know. But they have said that Dak, CD, Tyler Smith, restructures. They're going to look at the restructure of those 3D tackles. That's a great start, but they need great exemplary quarterback play. They need a hell raiser in the middle of the defense. And they need an edge. They need an edge. Now, I don't know if they're going to go with Trey Hendrickson in free agency. I don't know. I don't think that D-line, I think his name was Blaine. that ran like 4-6 from Texas Tech, he was booking. He was booking. So I think that's who it was. But Cowboys, y'all got to keep Dak healthy. That's your best chance. Keep Dak healthy and upright, upright and healthy. But your defense, you can't have your offense score 35 and your defense give up 38. It's time up for that, Ocho. Yeah. But look, they got two quality receivers. Ferguson, look, he's solid. He's not going to do anything extraordinary. I don't think he's a top five, top eight tight end, but he's solid. You know, you throw the ball, he'll catch it. Is he McBride or he one of these, you know, Harrell Fanning Jr.? He one of those guys? No, he's not. He's not. Warren Loveland, he's not that. Hawkinson, Laporta, he's not that. but he's a he's a solid guy he can make plays when given the opportunity and he should have a lot of opportunities because you got those two guys outside yeah and i had aaron i said i was feasting oh say i'm about to oh i'm about to kill you today my gosh and dak loves throwing to the tight end oh yeah that loves throwing to the tight end so this is look cowboys y'all got some catching up to do because I don't believe the Rams step back and based on the way a less need for the Rams and John Snyder from the Seahawks the way they draft and the way they put teams together you know how he's going to have a bounce back year ain't going nowhere bro so and it's time it's time a the the Lions get Laporta back so now he's in the mix with Amon Ra and J-Mo Oh, yeah. The Bears ain't going to. So, at worst-case scenario, Cowboys, you start like the seventh or the eighth-best team in the NFC, Ocho. Because you're not putting them in front of the Rams. You're not putting them in front of the Seahawks. You're not putting them in front of Chicago. You're not putting them in front of the Lions. You're not putting them in front of the Bears. I'm not sure you're putting them in front of the Packers. That's six teams right there. Are you putting them in front of the 49ers? Uh-uh. Uh, no. You know what's funny? That's seven teams right there. Yeah. Only seven teams make the playoffs, Ocho. Yeah. Outside of all those teams you named, outside of the 49ers and all those teams you named, all of them continue to get better year in and year out. Yes. Defensively. Yes. Defensively. So, with that being said, Jerry, you got your work cut out for us, but you say you're going to write some checks? Man, we're going to see. always say it. Oh, you got to take him back to the board. The man say he going to do that? I'm going to take it. I'm going to take it. He say the same thing every year. He just says it in a different way to get you excited. Every year, it's something different. Every offseason. You know what? They not talking about us enough. You know what? Let me come out and say something out on the land. The move, the move, the needle. And as soon as they win one game, everybody going to say, we them boys. We still them boys. Y'all not though. I like them. But hey, I tell you, I give them credit, Ocho. Yeah. They done drunk the Kool-Aid for so long. Yeah. They believe in it. They believe in it. Hell, I'm starting to believe too, shit. We're going to see what the Cowboys do. $7.91 last year. Let's see if they can expand on that in 2026. Bill's GM, Brandon Bean, is ready to forget about the past with Keon Coleman following an underwhelming start to the career. Bean cited Joe Brady's promotion to head coach and the arrivals of offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael Jr. and wide receivers coach Drew Terrell, Terrell, Terrell, as moves that will help Keon have a clean slate. I think there is a new energy, and it's year three, and we're going to hit full reset with Keon. Keon had a very good offseason last year, and we honestly had a very good training camp. We played the Ravens in the first game and he had 100-whatever yards. And it's just some things from the maturity standpoint after that. But Keon has said all the right things. I give him this. He's very accountable. He's never made an excuse. We're all hands on deck and we're going to do our part. And I know Joe and those coaches are very excited for what's in store for year three. I agree. Yeah. you gotta know bro if you do some things and you're not playing through your own fault Ocho you can't be on the field dancing no you just can't you just can't and that's what they were talking about the maturity thing right I'm like bro really the stuff that people find funny in your rookie year right they're not gonna find it funny the second year because you don't have the expectation you don't really know you don't know what you don't know but now Ocho they're going to find it even less funnier in year 3 because they're saying hold on all these guys that we expect you to be a thousand yards we expect you to be 85, 90, 100 catches we expect you to be double digit touchdowns that's what the expectations are. Yeah. I mean, listen, he's one of those that can do that. He's one of those that can do it. He has the size. He has the speed. He has the hands when he's locked in, you know, on, on to, to be able to be a complimentary piece, you know, for that offense. And he should be the go-to guy. It's just about working on that craft. Not when you get in season, off season, this is where you get better. This is where you get good. this is where you polish up your game you know in the offseason because once you get back that ain't nothing but F and F and I almost curse that ain't nothing but X and O's huh that's all it is it's X and O's you're already supposed to be able to in the offseason you want to go back with the mentality how can I make everybody's job around me easier yep my quarterback how can I make my officer coordinating job easy you don't have to worry about me I'm somebody you know you can count on every time it's time to call a play. But goddamn, it's third and short. I don't know what to do. You know what? I can call on 85 because I know we're going to be open. I'm going to call a fan. Just make everybody else's job around you easy. That should be every player's mentality in the offseason when I go back. They watch me in the offseason program, but goddamn, who is this? Completely different. Completely different. Whatever it may be. Hey, you don't have to get me the ball. I'm going to make it so hard for you to want to go to throw to somebody else. You got to get me the ball. Call play. Right. Right. Right. Right. You're a 84 going to be first to second read in all the plays that you call. And even if I'm last read, you're looking at me first anyway, because you know, I'm a win. That's how he has to approach it. I agree. Brandon B said, look, last year was last year the year before whatever the case may be This is a new this is a new reset We got a new coaching staff We know what this kid can do We believe he had an excellent offseason He had an excellent training camp He had an excellent first game. Okay? Those are some nice things to build on. Yeah. But you're not going to continue. They're not going to give you grace forever, Ocho. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You get one year. You get one year, especially if you don't have any issues and no hiccups. but if you have hiccups you have issues and problems and you're not playing well okay some got to give some got to give so with the young man all the best but you got to take it serious you got to take it serious all that joking and clowning around there's a time and a place for all that there'll be a time and a place for all that oh he's going to be he's going to be alright take care of what you need to take care of you heard me on huh he's going to be alright he's going to be down here with me alright yeah he's going to be him and ex I think I got about seven more guys coming down with me. Legit. About a month, yeah. We get a month, a month. Ready for a different take on Formula One? Look no further than No Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the underexplored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid. 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Live from South by Southwest, March 16th, we'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app, Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. I'm Daniel Jeremiah. And I'm Greg Rosenthal. And this is 40s and free agents. The games may be over, but the NFL never stops. This is my favorite part of the calendar. Yeah, mine too, Greg. Free agency, the combine, the NFL draft, pro days, trades. This is where teams reshape their future. This is where Daniel Jeremiah makes his money. On 40s and free agents, we break down every move that actually matters. From my draft evaluations, mock drafts, and team fits. To my top 101 free agents and how real rosters are built, cap space, contracts, and all the tough decisions included. You got quarterbacks on the move. We got teams rebuilding. It's hope season. Yeah, absolutely. It's hope season. We'll tell you what's real, what's noise, and what it means for your favorite team. Smart analysis, real conversations every week. I don't know about the smart, but definitely analysis. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Munch Street. The Arizona Cardinals are reportedly expecting to release Kyler Murray barring a last-minute trade per Ian Rappaport. Kyler is reported to receive interest from the Vikings as well as Pittsburgh, New York Jets once Kyler hits free agency. The Vikings intend to bring another quarterback in to compete with J.J. either to raise his level of play or to take the job outright. Well, if you bring Kyler Murray in there, he's probably going to take the job outright. Yeah. But anyway, Ocho, is Kyler Murray still a franchise quarterback? Absolutely. He's a franchise quarterback in the right situation. And I think about what certain teams need. I think Kyler Murray to the Vikings, I don't like that move. I like Kirk Cousins going back to the Vikings instead, being a pocket passer based on the talents that they have around them. You think about Kyler Murray and Trey McBride, right? When Kyler Murray was quarterback. You look at the difference in when Brissette came in as a quarterback. You see how McBride's number changed? Yes. You see how the offensive play calling changed based on having a pocket passer and not having someone who's a good quarterback in the right situation, like Kyle Murray, who always has to be sprinted out, whether left or whether right. So it changes everything. I like Kyle Murray with the Jets. I like him better with the Jets because I think in that environment and what they have going on, I think he'd be better suited with AG. But the Vikings, it wouldn't make sense. It wouldn't make sense because now you're going to have the receivers pissed and angry again, and you're going back into one situation where they're not getting the productivity that they would want. It's hard, and I've said this, it's hard playing with a guy that runs the football because, Ocho, I'm running the comeback, and the crowd's screaming. I'm like, what the hell are they screaming for? And he's over there. Like, what the hell? I wrote a square out and like, hold on, wait a damn minute. It's hard to play with a guy like you said, and you play with dropback quarterbacks and I play with dropback quarterbacks to know that, okay, back foot hit, the ball's coming out. Yeah, on time. On time. I understand that. Three step, five step, seven step. Now, most guys, you know, they don't take seven steps anymore because very few teams have their guy up under center. Guys are taking fewer and fewer snaps, even though Ben Johnson and his group still put the guy up under center. But for the most part, we've seen Stafford's up under center a lot too. Kyle Shanahan still has his guys. But for the most part, they've gotten just as pure up under center guys are taking shotgun snaps at an all-time high. With that being said, I mean, how this man get a super duper contract three years ago, Ocho, and here we are to release? Yeah. But Ocho, I ain't trade because I already know you want to release him. I ain't giving you market value for him. I'm not. Because guess what? I get him and pay him what I want to say and not have to pick up that contract. I know you got to get rid of him, Ocho. I know you got to. Yeah, most definitely. So why when I know you got to get off something, would I come in, hey, I'm going to let you put the estate sale. I'm going to let you put it on your yard, put it in your yard, and I'll come look at it. But I'm not going to make you an offer on it. Yeah. I know you got to get rid of it. I mean, he's probably going to get released. Obviously, there are going to be suitors. I just think offensively, from an offensive standpoint, you look at what Kirk Cousins did when he's with the Minnesota Vikings. You look at what Sam Donald did when he was with the Minnesota Vikings. Offensively, the production that the receivers had. You look at Kyler Murray when he had Trey McBride. The numbers weren't the same. Then all of a sudden, Jacoby Brissett is a quarterback, and now Trey McBride goes crazy. So now that gives you a better understanding. Kyler Murray needs to be in the right situation. Not a team where you have that type of talent where you're throwing volume. You're throwing volume passes. I think somewhere like the Jets where it's somewhat balanced. You know, you have Garrett Wilson. You have, I mean, Brees is coming back, right? Yeah, they say. I mean, it's being reported that they're going to put the franchise tag on it if they can't get a deal done, a long-term deal. Okay, okay, yeah. I think over there would be dope. I mean, it would be the right situation for Kyler Murray. I think Jets fans, of course, knowing them, they'll probably say no. And, I mean, it is what it is. And, you know, they got A.D. Mitchell. Remember they traded for A.D. Mitchell? Hey, that's right. I like A.D. Yeah. How are we going to view J.J.? because this is going to be his third year. He didn't play his first year. He got nicked, didn't, and missed a couple of games last year. How soon before we like, okay, Ocho, I don't know. I don't know. It ain't really too soon. It ain't not going to be too soon because obviously the patience is growing thin. The players offensively and those that are seniority, they're going to grow frustrated. They're going to get angry. Now, Jedis was able to hold it together last year. how much longer do you think he's going to be able to hold it together even though he's a team player he's a team player but obviously there are frustrations that go on when as a team collectively you're struggling because the most important position is not playing well and not only is he not playing well when he is when he's available he's not playing well he's always hurt so I mean something something gonna happen you know what happens cause he look around he's like damn damn Chase had another 120-catch season. Damn, Hookah, JSN, this one, that one. And I know what I had when I had my quarterbacks. Nobody had the first two, three, four, five years like I had. Yeah. Now I feel like I'm running in mud. It lets you know how important that position is. He's like, hold on. pick leave Pittsburgh and come over to a new team and damn near get 1500 go crazy easy I know I'd have had me a season I'd have had me 1700 1800 oh hell not y'all better get somebody in here before I start throwing breaking chairs I don't want to do it on Joe hey hey oh it's odd it sucks It sucks. Because first thing, because pretty soon y'all going to start saying, at least right now y'all still got me in that top five. But pretty soon you're like, Ocho, I don't know if we can put Jetta. I don't know if we can keep Jetta in the top five because, hey, JSN and we got Puka and we got Chase and we got Pick and we got CD. I don't know, Ocho. Yeah, and everything. A thousand yards receiving ain't going to keep you in the top five. You got to be 13, 14, 15, 16, 100, 100, 105, 110, 115, 20 catches. Yeah. That's what it is. It is what it is. And we, and what, in sports, the thing that I love about sports on show is that you got to constantly update your resume. This ain't no lifetime achievement award. We'll give you a lifetime achievement award once you're done. That's what they give to Scorsese. That's what they give to Spielberg. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh. The Oscar for Best Director goes to... Who did it this year? I know Jaws was great. E.T. was unbelievable. Chandler's List was another outstanding movie. What's that? What's that with Leonardo DiCaprio, Scorsese did? We know what Scorsese... We know it's worked. But this year, he deserved the Best Director Oscar. So... That's kind of how we do it. We base everything. Okay, yeah, we'll give you a great shoot. You know, you have a little off year. It's like, Ocho, you had a little off year. He bounced back. Right. But Chase keep churning them. Puka keep churning them. JSN. JSN went 100. Now he went 126. Yeah. 1793. Yeah. Super Bowl. Super Bowl. Chase, another outstanding season. Another 13, 1400. Another 120. Yeah. You got Puka. You got CD. You got Chase. They're going to be all right. The Vikings' next move has to be their best move, especially at that position. It has because the window of opportunity to contend is going to close, especially with the defense you have. what Mr. Flores has to work with right now is your best win of opportunity but you got to fix that position you got to get that position together to me if JJ is not the answer based on the small semblance I've seen the past two years Kirk Cousins is the best option there's nothing else out there Tom Brady ain't walking through that door Brett Clark ain't walking through that door I'm just saying to give you better understanding on how difficult it is to find a competent quarterback to run your team. It's not easy. Is there anything in the goddamn draft? They definitely not going to draft another quarterback. That ain't happening. You just took him with eight three years ago. But you remember we growing up and you going to such and such. Yeah, I'm going to be there. Save me a seat. Hey, you get there before me, save me a seat. If I get there before you, I save you a seat. Uh-huh. We don't get to save no seats when we ranking. Oh, yeah. Somebody come and occupy that. Somebody come and... Yeah. But now that you just said that, you know, I'm glad you said that. I'm glad I'm glad you just said that. That was a great analogy, too. You still believe Justin Jefferson in the top five right now? Chat, I would love to hear your response, too, because I got my chat on to the right of me. That's why I keep looking to the right. It's whoo. It's close. It's close because Puka and JSN has put together back to back right now. I still got Chase at one for me. Yeah. Based on what he's done since he's been in the league and he's shown no slippage. So for me, Chase is number one. Now, you get to battle out between for me, for two, is Puka and JSN. That'll be two and three for me. Put them in whatever order you want. Now, top three. Woo! I mean, top five. So we got three slots. So now you got Jetta. You got Seedy. Yeah. You got a pick. Yeah. Hold on. I'm trying to think who else we got, Ocho. So, I mean, AJ Brown was once in a conversation. AJ Brown, yeah, yeah, yeah. AJ had a down year. Reek got hurt. Who else is out there, Ocho? Zay Flowers, no. He ain't top five. Uh... Pierce, no. McLaurin, no. That's just for me. That's just me. Those guys that we mentioned, they might be top five for somebody. But I'm just saying, based on what I say, a top receiver is, consistency that they bring, I would say yes. I would say yes. But he's going to have to pick it up this year. Because I don't know if I can hold that spot much longer. Yeah. I mean, we know what he can do. yes oh absolutely but i i don't i don't i don't understand and i saw somebody in the chat just say why bring in kurt cousins why would you want to go backwards but here you're not going forward what you got you're not going forward with what you have so having someone that's been able to get it done i mean i mean from a productive standpoint i'm obviously and hoping you get over the hump but what's the point of having something where you ain't going no goddamn where you don't have a chance at all. True. True. But they got some, you know, what you call them got hurt. Mike Evans got hurt this year. But Tech, Carolina, I love the kid in Arizona. Wilson, I love him. Oh, yeah, he nice. Isn the first name not Cedric is it No I think it Mike Mike Michael Wilson I think that his name That why I just said Wilson because I didn want to say a no He's really good. With the way Wilson played last year and we get Marvin Harrison, we get Marvin Harrison Jr. back healthy and back playing to how we know he can play, playing with confidence. But they got a nasty duo over there. They got a nasty duo. Michael is for a name. Michael Wilson? Okay. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, I agree with you, Ocho. We know what this guy can do. It's just a matter of getting a quarterback that can get him to football. And that's why, you know, you play a dependent position, and you've got to have somebody that can get you the ball. Yeah. So we're going to find out. JJ, it's not never. The last thing you want to be labeled is injury-prone. Oh, yeah. He missed the first year with an injury, and then he got nicked. Remember, he played the first game, came back, beat Chicago. He missed three or four games, comes back, gets nicked again. He's going to have to find a better way. He's going to have to find a way to stay on the field because the best ability is availability. I don't care how great you are. If you're not on the field, what can I do with that? Can't even evaluate that. What am I supposed to do with that? Can't evaluate it. So it's going to be incumbent to him to get into that playbook, understand, stay on the field. because like you say, Jetta, guys are going to get frustrated. You look at what they have, Addison and Hawkinson will be back. Jetta. I read, I think they're moving on from Aaron Jones. They said, yeah, I saw that. I saw that earlier. We're going to try to move you. And if we can't, we're going to end up releasing you and save somebody. Ready for a different take on Formula One? Look no further than No Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the underexplored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid. Lewis Hamilton, Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon. Wouldn't you know it, Michael Schumacher is also a Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon. 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The D linemen, the O linemen, everybody was outstanding. did you see you see young bull from Miami to 6'9 young 6'9 340 some pounds ran a 5 something yeah how you that big moving like that man and I like when they simulcast it against Rich man them juggles be blowing the doors on Rich them live would give Rich a 4 yard head start and catch him at the 30 hey them boys was moving they was moving they was moving they was moving and what I don't like this is one of the things I don't like And I would love to sit down and talk to some of these players. With some of the times that I'm seeing, based on what I saw at the combine, if you're running that fast, why is it not popping up and showing up on tape like that? Like with that kind of speed, you should be dominating at said position at the collegiate level. So something is disconnected in a sense. do you run a do you understand what you're supposed to do if you have the agility the thing that can't be taught you can't teach speed so you add that in addition to all the other qualities and intangibles and qualities that make you good or great at said position there's no reason I don't understand with all those times and watching college football all season long like we've done, nothing jumped out. Nothing was like every week. When Reggie Bush played, we tuned in because it's Reggie. You got to see it. Peter Warwick, Andre Johnson. I mean, Michael Vickery was at VTAC. You tuned in to see it. I didn't have that based on what I saw today or the past this weekend from the combine. Well, wait a minute. Why did all these fast time but everybody flew under the radar in season? There's a difference between running fast and playing fast. Those are two different things. You didn't run fast, but you played fast. There are a lot of guys that ran for it. John Ross ran fast, but he couldn't play fast. He was, hey, hey, I don't see how the body, boy. But see, and the thing is, I mean, his body wasn't made because he was a track guy. See, Tyreek has track speed, but he's a football body. Tyreek has a football body. Mm-hmm. And sometimes, Ocho, what you get is guys going and training for a specific task. I'm going to train to run the 40, standing long jump, the short cone, divert. I'm going to train for that. Right. Okay, you can train for it, Ocho. That doesn't mean it translates to what you're doing on the field. Right. Like when I see some guys, when I see like an offensive lineman run, when are I going to need my offensive lineman to run 4-6, 4-7, 4-8? let me see your kick. Let me see what you do on this combo. Let me see what you do on this slip bop. Yes, yeah. That's what I need to see. All that running fast, your offensive line, I don't give a damn about that. Right. Defensive lineman, all I want to do is see your 10 yards. Yeah. What does that look like? If you run farther than 10 yards, bro, I'm sorry, you chasing somebody in the end zone. Mm-hmm. So that's the thing, Ocho. I think the thing is, is that we see guys and they're training for a specific thing. Right. as opposed to as a football player. Yes. I mean, most of the guys in the Hall of Fame didn't have pop-out stats, unless it's Randy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, Randy Pro Day was stupid crazy. Yeah. But if you look at most of the guys... Yeah. Average. Yes. Average. Because, I mean, the game is not based on running in a straight line, in a sense. No. You think about all the 40 times. Chad, stay with me real quick. Stay with me. you think about all the 40 times from all the fast receivers today, right? How do you stop someone that runs that fast, right? We're not scared. We're not scared of that. Speed is a great thing. How do we stop it? You put somebody in front of them. Yeah. You put somebody in front of them because most of the time, if you're somebody that's that fast, yes, you're explosive, but can you do it when there's a body in front of you? Do you have the lateral movement and quickness to be able to get back? Are you twitchy enough? Look at Miles Garrett. Look at Miles Garrett and how he rushed the passer. You see he doing all this. He's like a damn wide receiver, tight end, trying to get off the ball. He ain't supposed to be able to do that. No, absolutely not. How he fake one outside, take one giant step outside, and come across any offensive lineman face he want to. That's the difference. Look at Vernon Golston. Go back and look at his times and what he ran. He should have been ripping people's head off on the field. Right. Look at a guy like Sean Oakman, 6'5", 6'6". I don't want to know, can you play football? I'm looking for football. That's it. I ain't looking for Usain Bolt. I ain't looking for Bob Beaman, somebody going to jump 30 feet. Can you play football? And that's what it comes down to at the end of the day. The 40 time is great. Being that fast, it's really great. It's a great quality to have. It's a great trait to have because it just can't be taught. Then I look at things like Cardinal Tate. Cardinal Tate ran 4-4-4-5 from Ohio State. I don't care not about that. I don't care not about that. Turn on the goddamn film. What does it look like when Brother Tate is playing for the goddamn Ohio Buckeyes every goddamn Saturday? What is he doing? Proud example. Look at the receivers we just talked about. What did Chase run? What did JSN run? What did Puka run? What did Jeddah run? What did Pickens run? Ain't nobody in no four threes. Ain't nobody no 11 foot standing long jump. Ain't nobody got no 40 inch vertical. Bro, can you play football? Yeah, that's all it comes down to. Now, if we go to the Football Olympics, I'm glad I got you on my team because you're going to bring home the gold. Yeah. But, mm-mm. Hey, I would love it. Look at Mike Mimoula. Y'all see what, and people say, well, the combine, bull jive. We've seen guys go up and slide down based on what they did at the combine. So don't tell me the combine. Oh, yes, it does. It play a big role. A huge role. Sonny Stiles' brother, his brother ran Lorenzo. He ran 4-2-7. Yeah. A safety. He was moving, boy. 4-2-7? He was moving. And then run Jeremiah Love You see what he ran He ran 4.3 Yeah He ran 4.3 He ran Hey It don't look You know Jeremiah Love You know what he remind me of What that He runs so smooth And there's no Erky jerky like Eh Like where it looks like He's being explosive He remind me of Aaron Foster When Aaron Foster Aaron Foster was fast But he glided In such a way where it looks so effortless like he wasn't even trying. But they moving. And you don't know they moving until somebody trying to catch their ass. This kid here got... I knew it was fat. I thought he was low 4-4. I didn't think he was going to go sub 4-4. Right. Yeah. That was nice. I mean, them guys were rolling. They were moving. Them guys were rolling this weekend. I mean, the tight end run 4-3-9. Mm-hmm. 40-inch vertical. Lem 2. Guys standing long, burnt 45 and a half. Yeah. I want receivers to understand, if you have that kind of speed, you're running four twos and you're running four threes, you should be able to go, if you understand the game of football and how to manipulate and get open and manipulate and understand and leverage and coverages, you should dominate the game. but there's so many other factors that aren't there in your game and you're not polished enough to understand that i would i would love obviously i don't i don't have the opportunity to do so and i don't want to step on other people's toes that are training said receivers that are coming out and doing all this stuff but there is so much where they can come in and dominate right away if you have that kind of speed if if the rest of your game it just polished up there's no way it's simple what you're saying is can you do something other than run a go can you run an out can you run an in can you run a dig can you run a comeback can you run an over yeah because what makes Tyreek so unique is that people are afraid of that speed but he can stop on a dime he can run that speed out he can run that dig he can run that comeback he can run that over he can run the shallow he can do everything else can you tie everything together to make everything look like you're running a go ball mm-hmm Because that guy don't get his backpedal. I don't give a damn what you running. He ain't, you ain't beating him. He gonna drive his ass off on it. Yeah. You better get, you better break that cushion and make him think you about to get up out of there. Mm-hmm. Because if that guy don't respect you, okay, good luck. Yeah. Funny thing about it, the funny thing about it, if you're fast as hell, all these people run these fast times, right? And this is where you get exposed because if you can't, for one, if you can't get off the bump, you're done. You're not going to last long anyway. If you can't run fast and be able to stop a transition, well, I mean, you're done also. Gotta be able to control it. You got to. Speed without control ain't do you no good, Ocho. At all. That's like having a Ferrari with no brakes. Mm-hmm. I got a nice car. Can you drive it? Nah, man, you know, man, I don't get it out of third. What the hell, dude? Ocho, what the hell? You got a Ferrari and you can't get it out of third gear. the hell I think Ferrari got six gears now you only get half of it because you don't know what to do with that yeah I was excited though I was excited now look what he did it was his name brother wasn't it he a receiver you talking about Trey Lance's brother Arkansas had a quarterback that ran 4-3 he ran the second fastest 40 times had this long jump. He had like a 40-something inch vert. 6'6". Yeah. 6'6". Yeah, Joe, the hit-mail. You see the homeboy in front of you? I said, come on, Joe. Yeah. Ash, what was the quarterback's name? What was his measurable? But he had the highest vert, the highest standing long jump, the second fastest 40. Right. I mean, he was... I didn't know a boy had it like this. I did not. But again, It comes back to this though. What does it look like when you turn the film on? But that's what I'm saying. All those stuff, Ocho, a 40-inch vertical, 11-2 standard, not for a quarterback. No, bro. I want to know how he processes information. How soon can he get the ball? How soon can he see it, process it, and get the ball gone? That's all I care about. I don't care about that. It'd be nice if you break away. The likelihood of a quarterback taking it off and going 80, they've probably been less than they've probably been less in the history of the game there have been probably how many times you think a quarterback has taken off and gotten 80 maybe maybe five times in the history of the game yeah remember Terrell Pryor when he was a quarterback yeah he went 93 and he cleared it and went 80 yeah that the longest run he went 93 yeah it was that long yeah uh long Yeah Uh I can think I mean Michael Vick done it a few times Maybe not 80-plus, but he done broke some long ones. Yeah. So my thing is, Ocho, I want to know, can you process information? Can you get the ball in hand? How soon can you detect what the defense is doing and get the ball going out of your hands based on what you want to do? Mm-hmm. After making a run to the Super Bowl, the New England Patriots and veteran wide receiver Stephon Diggs are parting ways. The Patriots have reportedly informed Diggs that he will be released at the start of the new year next week, just one year after he signed a three-year $69 million deal with the team. Damn. Hold on, Arke Ocho. Yeah. I thought he'd done a great job in the locker room. Superb. I thought he was great being available when he played. Like, you know, he balled out. A good veteran president of the locker room. What's up? What's going on? I think the distractions off the field is too much for them. Everything is an allegation. None of it has been comproved. But I just think he – for that, Ocho, you played in that organization. And even though the coach isn't there that coached you, the principles still apply. Yes, sir. I think that for me personally, I could be wrong. I could be totally off. But I think I just think the constant and that, I think it just is like, no, this is this is not what we're looking for. Probably too much. I mean, also that, too, obviously, NFL, most teams, they're going younger, too. I mean, I think Diggs had a great season, Joe. He had a thousand. He had a thousand yard season. He's going to get picked up. He's going to be somewhere else. I won't be surprised if he ends up in Baltimore. I'm just throwing it out there right now, being that that's not too far from not mistaken. He's from the DMV area. Yeah, he's from the DMV area, so don't be surprised if he ends up in Baltimore. Just know I said it first. And every time I say something on the show, for some reason, Unc, I'm always right, and it always happens, but that's neither here nor there. But he had a good season last night. A true leader. He led the team. He played well. He did what they brought him there to do. I thought he did a great job. Look, I thought he did a great job of catching the ball. I thought he did a great job with Drake May. I thought he didn't have any bad mannerisms when he was on the field. He wasn't pouting on the sideline. He wasn't loafing on the field. I loved everything. I loved everything about what he was doing on the field. Hey, whatever happened with his relationship, I don't care anything about that. I wish both of them the best. If they're together, stay together. If not, that's okay too. But I just think knowing the Patriots and that organization, how they – Yeah. If it ain't football related, they ain't trying to hear about it. Damn. Yeah, he got some juice left, though. I know he does. Absolutely. And you got to think about it. So now he's going to get another year. So he'll be two years removed, Ocho, from that ACL. So he should become better. Better than he was this year. I totally agree with that. Chiefs trade McDuffie to the Rams. The Chiefs get the 2026 first round pick, which is their pick because, you know, they have two first round picks. They got one of those. They got Atlanta's first round pick. They get a 2026 fifth round pick, a 2026 sixth round pick, and a 2027 third round pick for Trent McDuffie services. Ocho, we talked about this. Remember, we talked about this. I said, Ocho, I'm not going to be surprised at all. Hey, you was right. I'm not going to be surprised. You was right. Based on what they have, what they need, knowing they can't pay him. And the thing that I like about him, they asked him a couple of weeks ago or maybe a month ago, if he were to get traded, where would he like to go? He's a Cali kid. He said, I guess I'd like to go back to the Rams. Back home, yeah. Jerry and Steve, where did they turn him? Tennessee Titans, got the big contract. That's one thing, you can say whatever you want to say about the Chiefs, but Andy and Brent, they do a great job. When you play and do what you're supposed to, They will try to put you in the best situation to help you considering what you've done to help them. With them. Yeah, that's a good thing. Most of the time, you don't have owners. You don't have head coaches that operate in that manner and understand the value that you bring. And that value that you do have, we can't reciprocate what you've earned to this date. But we appreciate your services. We're going to allow you to go somewhere else and continue to blossom. and we're going to do what we need to do and fill whatever areas we need to. And one of the reasons you know they can do some of the things that they do, Unk? Because they got one of the best players in the game. One of the best players to ever play this game. You can make moves like this. Because he can make up for the absence of not having a great DB like Mr. McDuffie is on the defensive side of the ball. They did that with Tyreek. Tyreek, they say you want to go to the Jazz or you want to go to Miami? Okay. to put you in Miami. And knowing what they need, Ocho, they don't, Ocho, what do they need, a $30 million corner in Kansas City? They got too many other needs. They got too many other needs. And so it just, it didn't come, it didn't come, you know, it became cost prohibitive. And, you know, obviously we got Mahomes. I think they still need a running back. They need a running back back. They need a receiver. I still believe they need a big-time receiver. The little small guy, Ocho, they need a stud. Go ahead, Ocho. I have a question. What's the chances that Kansas City Chiefs pick at number nine, if I'm not mistaken? I think if Jeremiah Love is there, they take him. I'm going to say I would hope they climb up to go get him. You think he's going to be there at nine, Unc? I don't know. Absolutely not. I don't think so. Yeah, boy. I need those picks, Ocho. I need those picks because I've neglected so long. Now I need to put pieces around Patrick Mahomes. Plus, he's coming off an injury, Ocho. Now, we don't know if he's going to be able to start the season. I know that's his goal. His goal is to be able to start the season. But what if that's not his goal in moving forward? Right. Could there be a situation he goes higher? Hell, Ashton Gentry went sixth. here's a guy that's more of a home run threat than Aston Gentry a power back now Aston Gentry for a guy his size he runs with great power great leverage but I love I love Jeremiah I love I think that's what they need but Kansas City just has too many holes to fill to pay a corner to have a 30 million dollar corner and a 30 million dollar knee tackle and you got Corloftus making a boatload of money you just gave the middle linebacker a boatload of money so I'm not surprised based on their recent history and what they need and what it was going to cost for them to keep him and you know that's what happens when you draft and they've done a great job of drafting Ocho at some point you can't pay everybody you just can't it's the same thing with Willen you're going to have to let him go you're going to have to let him go and the only thing is is that you're not going to get compensation for it I mean you'll get compensation because he'll go and you'll get a third round pick but you can't trade him and get the value that you could got if you had his rights and traded him. Right. Because you got the new spoon. And you got JSN coming. And Amunwari is going to be up in a year, two years. Yeah. He nice. And we talked about this. I was like, look, if you're prioritizing, K9 is on the bottom of the list. Because what he's going to want is top five, top three, top five running back money. And they don't view him as a top three, top five back, which would be in the $15 million range, 15, seven. He's not going to, they can't pay that. Thank you. Helping us win a Super Bowl. Congratulations on your league, on your Super Bowl MVP. But... I mean, Unc and Joe, there's tiers to everything. There are tier one running backs, and it's only a handful. Now, he's a very, very, very, very good running back. but is he in the same conversation with the Saquons and the Jameer Gives? B. John Robinson, the McCaffreys. The B. John Robinson. No, he's not. The Derrick Henry, no he's not. He's not. Yeah, he's very good. He's very good though. And that's okay. He parlayed it at the right time, Ocho. I'm a free agent. I go on this great run. I win the Super Bowl MVP. Damn. You can't ask for anything better than that, Ocho. You got Charbonneau. And the thing is, Ocho, they always feel that they can get a back. They feel they can get a back. Because the freshest of back is gonna be Ocho when he coming out of college. 20 years, because think about it, when they put the, they gonna put the, hey, if you that back, they gonna put 250, 300 carries on your legs before you get another contract. So you talking about 250 to 300, you gonna get 1,000 carries in your first three years. And they don't, Aiyonk, you know how it is. They don't value that position the way they once did. No, they don't. They don't value it. And you have to be extremely special for you to hold any kind of value at the running back position in this day and age, in this past and era. And to get multiple contracts? At that running back spot? Oh, it's hard. Hey, Joe, it's hard, Joe. It's hard. I already know. Like C-Mac and Derrick Henry and who else has got multiple contracts at the running back position, huh? McCaffrey. McCaffrey. Yeah, I said C-Mac first. My bad. My bad. Yeah. That's it. L.A. minute. Hey, it's hard. Hey, Joe, it's hard, boy. Well, there's some guy. The Cardinals have informed Kyler Murray that they intend to release him at the first day of the league year next Wednesday, barring a trade between 9 and then. Arizona already owes him almost $37 million in guarantee for 2026, and another 19.5 would have been triggered on the 15th of March. He will now be moving on. Kyler took to social media to address the news. To everyone that supported me and showed kindness to my family and I during my time in Arizona, from the bottom of my heart, thank you. I wanted nothing more than to be the one to end the 77-year drought for this organization. I feel I'm sorry I failed us. I wish this community and my brothers nothing but the best. I'm no stranger to adversity. I'm prepared for whatever's next. I trust in God and my work ethic. I truly believe my best ball is in front of me, and I look forward to proving it. Godspeed. Ugh. What'd you think, Ocho? Hey, I'm curious. I'm curious on the destinations that make sense for him. And a whole lot of places out there. I'm curious. Hey, Miami Stay with me real quick, Uncle Joe Miami New York or Minnesota Now those the only three I can think of the one that I would like him to go to the best, you know Minnesota I would, me personally Joe, I would prefer a pocket passer in Minnesota because of all the weapons they have I would like Kyler, maybe in New York or maybe in Miami. That's just me. I would prefer to see Kirk Cousins come back to Minnesota or maybe... He would get him to pick back up where he was. I don't want to see Kirk Cousins go back to Minnesota. Hey, Joe, you got to see the numbers, Joe. You got to see one thing Kirk could do. Boy, he going to let that thing fly. Ocho, he going to have a few good games here and there, but come on, man. he ain't gonna be the same you look you know what I mean I don't know Joe but I just think from a passing standpoint listen Kyler Murray is very good very good very good dual threat quarterback but I think it limits some of the things you can do when you have that kind of talent over there in Minnesota when you have a mobile quarterback like that but the thing is though Joe he's not your traditional drop back pass quarterback and I think with that offense what they have They need a traditional drop back pass quarterback like Aaron Rodgers or like a Kirk Cousins that can sling it. You don't really need a dual threat. I don't know if you notice, though, Joe, but Malik Willis is going to be available and he's going somewhere. Hey, he's going to the highest bidder. That's where he's going. Miami, Arizona. I can see him in Miami. Hey, Arizona would be a good one too for Malik. Hey, what's Wilson's first name? Mike Wilson? Yes, Michael Wilson. Hey, Joe, boy, it's a young bull named Mike Wilson. He came out of nowhere. Yeah. Hey, I don't know if you've been around, Unc. Joe, he came out of nowhere. That's about playing like true number one. Yeah. Oh, my God, boy, he nice. All year long, Joe, he making play after play after play after play. If they get Marvin Harrison Jr. up to speed, they got Trey McBride, best tight end in football. So they got weapons. They got to redo the offensive line. They got to get better at the offensive line, Ocho. They got to get better at that. Yeah. But. Hey, what do you think about Malik Willis coming down to Miami? I think Miami or Arizona. If I had a choice, I would pick Arizona. McBride, Marvin Harrison Jr., Mike Wilson. Yes, absolutely. I would too. Connors. Connors is coming back next year, I'm assuming, at the running back. Hold on. Didn't he get the – who got the head job in Arizona? Wasn't it the guy from Green Bay? Yeah. Yeah. Ocho. Yeah. Where did he have success at? Green Bay. What type of offense did he run? Green Bay. The brother. Same thing. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You see how that thing lined up in Arizona? Oh, he in Miami. No, no, no. LaFleur's in Miami, isn't he? Is he in Miami or Arizona? Because Willis is probably going where the other LaFleur brothers went. Right. Or the Cardinals. He's going to Arizona, Ocho. He came from the Rams, yeah. But he knows that system because the systems are very similar. Okay. Yeah. Ready for a different take on Formula One? look no further than No Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the underexplored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid, the story of the sport's most consequential driver's strike, and plenty of other mishaps, scandals, and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. 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