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Negligent Discharge Friday | 2/20/2026

70 min
Feb 20, 2026about 2 months ago
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Summary

This episode covers firearm safety failures, helicopter mechanical issues, and government accountability concerns. The hosts discuss a tragic negligent discharge incident, jiu-jitsu etiquette and ego management, and express frustration with the handling of Epstein documents by government officials.

Insights
  • Firearm safety principles exist to prevent tragedy even when mechanical failures occur; basic rule adherence would have prevented the Texas shooting death
  • Ego management in combat sports requires recognizing that losses at lower belt levels are artificial and meaningless compared to long-term skill development
  • Helicopter tail rotor failures cascade rapidly and offer pilots only one viable option: reduce power and land immediately
  • Government accountability requires independent oversight mechanisms outside of congressional review to force prosecutions of documented crimes
  • Widespread distrust in institutions stems from perceived cover-ups; rebuilding requires exposing corruption through transparency rather than wholesale rejection
Trends
Increased public scrutiny of government document releases and perceived selective transparency in high-profile casesGrowing concern about predatory app design targeting minors despite known risks in adult social platformsRising skepticism about government competence and moral authority among informed citizens across political spectrumEmphasis on personal responsibility and rule adherence as counterbalance to mechanical/systemic failuresShift toward independent oversight and accountability mechanisms outside traditional government structures
Topics
Firearm Safety and Negligent Discharge PreventionAlcohol and Weapon Handling RisksJiu-Jitsu Belt Progression and Ego ManagementHelicopter Tail Rotor Mechanical FailuresGovernment Document Transparency and Epstein CaseChild Safety in Social Discovery AppsMilitary Operations and Rules of EngagementPistol vs Rifle Usage in Combat OperationsFirearm Storage and Secure HandlingAccountability in Government InstitutionsCorruption and Leverage in Political SystemsTrust and Institutional LegitimacySpecial Operations Training and ExecutionPredatory Behavior Online and OfflineIndependent Oversight Mechanisms
Companies
Black Rifle Coffee Company
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Offers term life insurance through Fabric brand with quick online application and no health exam required
People
Nick Bryant
Journalist who obtained Epstein's black book in 2008 and is advocating for independent review of released documents
Pam Bondi
Government official handling Epstein document release; criticized for avoiding eye contact with victims during hearing
Kash Patel
Government official who stated no criminal charges could be brought from Epstein documents
Earl Plumlee
Army Green Beret who used his pistol in real-world combat scenario; featured in previous podcast episode
Mike Day
Navy SEAL shot 27 times who used pistol as secondary weapon when primary was unavailable
Thomas Massie
Elected official vocal about investigating government corruption and Epstein connections
Ro Khanna
Elected official working to investigate and expose government corruption related to Epstein case
Kristi Noem
Government official criticized for poor tactical execution despite policy alignment
Nick Alvin (Chewy)
Jiu-jitsu instructor and content creator who analyzed viral video of black belt tantrum after submission
Quotes
"You have to be okay with losing. Yeah. But I will say to people who are at lower belts, be aware of things that you have earned and things that you haven't."
HostJiu-jitsu discussion segment
"Treat purple belts like they are probationary black belts until they show you otherwise."
Host (quoting Leah)Jiu-jitsu training philosophy
"I would rather have people with hurt feelings than regulated speech."
HostFree speech discussion
"How could you sacrifice your personal values and morals to protect people that are fucking pedophiles and horrible people?"
MichaelGovernment accountability discussion
"There's probably a few thousand people in government pulling the strings between elected officials and career bureaucrats. There's 300 plus million adults in the U.S. there's got to be a way."
HostGovernment reform discussion
Full Transcript
Okay, this was your idea. I hope you have some heat for today. Yeah, this was my idea. We just haven't done one in a while. I think we did one like two weeks ago. no it's been longer than that seems like two weeks okay sounds good all right uh what do you have for today first off how are you still sick I have no clue I think do you have health insurance do you need to go to a doctor no I well my aunt's a doctor and I asked her I gave her what type of doctor? Like, uh, I think she's proctology. No, she's like a, uh, family medicine or whatever. Okay. That's strong. Yeah. But, uh, she was like, there's not really anything you can do. Basically. It sounds like a viral thing. So you just kind of have to wait it out. So you went to the doctor over the phone. Yes. Nice. That's good. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. It's incredibly thorough. Yeah, it really was. Um, and you've been sick for how long? Two weeks. Over two weeks now. Yeah. Let's keep working our way towards honesty. How long? Two weeks and two days. Sorry. About a month. You've been sick for about a month. No, I haven't. You have sounded horrible for about a month. I don't think so. I'm really going to start this show with you displaying for the world how much of a liar you are. Yeah. We value honesty at this table. I would know better than you. first i actually think a great argument could be made that you wouldn't you know who says things like that my dad dog i i got sick did you just call me dog yes i'm sorry cough it out go ahead healthy boy this is actually better than it has been the last yeah let's make an agreement that you're not going to call me dog anymore dog d-a-w-g yeah first off i've never heard you say that so i don't know where that's coming from i say it a lot actually well just don't say it in here. Fair. You sound like a child. I am a child. Yeah. 23 is not that old. Okay. Anyways. Today's episode is brought to you by fire cracker farm. 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Black belt, there's a tantrum after getting subbed by purple belt. Have you seen this video? No, but I love it already. It's hilarious. This is all this. It's just been going around, but this particular video is jujitsu. He did like a breakdown on it. Chewy did? Yeah. Yeah. Which you've had him on before. Yeah. Nick Alvin. Yeah. He's awesome. Let's make sure that's up. Okay. Here we go. What a cunt I know And he's back in a triangle anyway Yeah Here's the thing Who cares Dude, exactly. Do you know how many times you've tapped on the way to get a black belt? Oh my. Countless, countless times. The only time things get frustrating is when you see people acting as if it's like the world championships and they also are starting in positions that they didn't earn. I don't know if you, like, if you want to have like a role where you start off either standing or seated, whatever your flavor may be, and every position that you, that you get to is actually earned. That's awesome. If somebody lets you start on their back, you know what I mean? Or lets you start. And I'm actually not saying like, let's say it's the black belt that lets you do that and get submitted. What's amazing to me is the lack of awareness from somebody who is allowed, like they will let you start and mount and maybe they're working on a particular escape and yeah, you tap a black belt, which means absolutely nothing. Yeah. And then that person is like hooting and hollering and they're having, it's, I won't call it a freak out, but they're having this crazy reaction to something that they didn't earn and wasn't real. That's how you end up getting smashed on the bottom. Now this guy started throwing punches, which is just a total douche move. Like it's like, dude, nobody likes losing. Yes. There is pressure that comes with having your black belt, but nobody gives two shits. So that is just pure. Well, and actually I was going to say that's pure ego. We don't know anything about those two people. They maybe have a history. Those might be brothers for all that we know. Right. So let's just say that there's a, an opportunity for us not to have all the information. And by that, I mean a certainty that we don't have all the information, but who cares on both sides of those things. Like if you're the lower belt and you submit a black belt, guess what's going to happen if you keep training one day, you're going to become a black belt and a lower belt is going to submit you. Yeah. How do you want them to behave as that lower belt? And how do you want the black belt to behave? And let's just model both of those behaviors. This isn't that hard. I have asked people or people have asked me like, Hey man, you know, we were rolling before and you caught me with this. And how did you do that? And I'm like, I don't even remember what you're talking about my memory of the roles that I have generally expires by the time I leave open man I do not care about the outcome of a role people oh I'm gonna come get you like dude please by all means go for it I'm gonna tap out a navy seal haven't been one for over a decade yeah like all of these things none of them mean anything it doesn't feel any differently I don't have any magic powers. Do I like losing? No, nobody likes losing. If I'm closer to 50 than I am 40, am I even going to be competitive with a dude in his mid twenties, early thirties that used to be a wrestler who's a purple belt? Probably not. It's like, who cares, man? But what I really don't care about are the artificial things that happen on a jujitsu mat. Yeah. What's the thing? Like the going to like, sometimes you get caught and also you have to be able to be creative. Like you're out there and with lower belts, I don't know if people realize this. I mean, Leah told me one time, she's like, you know, treat purple, purple belts. Like they are probationary black belts until they show you otherwise. I'm like, Oh, that's a really good way of thinking about that. Brown belt. You're kind of polishing and figuring out what your style is. And then at a black belt, it's like, okay, cool. And now everybody thinks you know everything. And you completely a hundred percent don't at least in my experience, but like at a blue or a white belt, those are the belts that you can be really creative with and you can get away with stuff. And I think if you want your game to continue, you have to be able to be creative and try new stuff out. You need to be able to work on your timing with somebody whose timing isn't as good as yours. You know what I mean? You need to be able to risk where maybe you wouldn't want to risk with a higher belt because, you know, if you make a mistake, they're going to capitalize on it and you don't want it to go that way. Right. So there's there's utility and training all up the belt tree. But like nothing goes. God, like to the point of like trying to hit the guy again, maybe they're brothers. Right. I'm trying to be charitable here and say that there's a reason behind that. Cause if that's not the case, that's just pure ego, which is hilarious to me because you know what is supposed to be ego destroying, you know what people talk about? Yeah. How it destroys your ego. Well, if that were the case, then nobody would give a shit truly about the outcome on the mat because I have found that it starts by breaking your ego and then it builds it back up again. If you're not careful. Yeah. Yeah. Well then you get to your place where I can't lose to anybody. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You feel like your expectations are way higher on you. Yeah. And you put them all on yourself. Who gives a shit? Yeah, exactly. This is all supposed to be prepped for the real world anyway. Like these are your training partners. And another, I think it was Leah said, she's like, this jujitsu is an individual team sport. I was like, what are you talking about? She's like, the journey is yours individually, but you need training partners to advance. So without those two things, you know, I guess you could do it a little bit with the training dummy. That would be super weird. Very COVID-esque, if you will. But other than that, like you need your partners. You have to have trust. It has to be okay. It's not real. You don't need to jump up and start hitting somebody. Yeah, dude. What a dick. So insane. And also, in trying to hit him, how are you liking that deep triangle, bitch? Yeah, he fell right into a triangle, which is so funny. And if they were brothers, I would be completely fine with the bottom guy taking him unconscious. It's a blood choke. It's not a joint lock or anything like that. If that's your big brother, put him out. Hopefully, he will either piss or shit in his pants. Yeah. Yeah. Preferably both. And then he gets, then he's also going to wake up swinging again. So you may actually not want to be there when that happens. Yeah. But yeah, other than that, if they're not like brothers, yeah. And I put that on the, I put that a hundred percent on the higher belt. You have to be okay with losing. Yeah. But I will say to people who are at lower belts, be aware of things that you have earned and things that you haven't. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's what I was going to say is like, I've caught higher belts before, but in the back of my mind i'm always like i'm sure he's working on some new shit that he never does and i wouldn't don't think about it like that your jujitsu is very good i would say at your level at most people are going to give you position but not a submission yeah yeah like if they're like you and i have rolled before you don't have the best of uh success passing my guard no but there have been plenty of times where i'll just drop my legs down and you can start pass like that that's what i'm saying And you'll don't think that if you catch, if you ever catch me, it's going to be real. Like, I'm not going to give you the submission, but I'm more than happy to let you start in sight control or neon belly or even like, I don't care. Right. Like people will give you the position. They're not going to give you the submission. Yeah. But then I've also been caught by like blue belts before. And I'm like, well, fuck, like it, it happens, dude. Like, and I didn't come up. How did you get caught? How did you get caught by a lower belt? I must, this is, I must suck. I have to punch him now. did you consider throwing your belt away i did yeah that's good it's a good first thought oh yeah it's like my i didn't pop up who cares punching the guy it's like dude well it's also it's open matt bro like you're going to lose some you're gonna win some it doesn't matter now i like now now the people next to them are actually paying attention yeah they're like before that in the middle of the role absolutely nobody on earth gave any care whatsoever yeah nobody would have noticed if he wouldn't have just, if he would have just been like, Oh, good, good one. You know, which is the move. Yeah. And you know, here's the thing too. I know, uh, I'm not a coach, so I'm speaking a little bit over my skis here. Um, but I have coached quite a few things in my life and I'll say this, it should be your goal as a coach to teach people to be better than you. Your goal as a coach, a great coach can develop athletes and whatever it is that you're doing, public speaking to physical combat sports and air quotes that can beat you. The ones that have the biggest egos will always try to hold their students back. Yeah. It may suck to lose, but if you can teach somebody starting from nothing to get to a place that is better than where you are currently at in a shorter time than it took you to get there, that's freaking awesome. It's actually pretty impressive. It is pretty impressive. It doesn't help your ego at all, but coaches should be trying to and developing athletes that are better than they are. That is not a sign that you suck at jujitsu. Actually, you say it's a sign that you're very good at jujitsu. As coaching for sure. And also size, strength, age, all real. It all matters. Yeah. Yeah. As much as people say it doesn't, it 100% is a factor. Take it easy out there at open mats, everybody. I love that the purple belt just threw a triangle. Went right back to jujitsu. Yeah. Let's back it up a little bit. God. I mean, come on. Like, so unnecessary. Yeah. Oh, he's got it locked up. It is have it locked up. Yeah. Do not let him out. That's hilarious. Still trying to hit. Jesus. He's not letting it go. I like it. Also, funny how quick that triangle shut down his enthusiasm for punching. Are these, okay, so that's a black belt. I was going to say, are these white belts ending this now? Yeah, I think another black belt stepped in there. Okay, stop it. You hear him? You were neck cranking me, motherfucker. Tap. Tap. Yep. You don't have to prove how tough you are. A black belt doesn't protect you from an upper neck injury. Yeah. If somebody, and this happens with people with not to make this whole episode, like a jujitsu diatribe, people who don't know as much are going to do wild things that you don't expect. Not because they're trying to hurt you because they don't know better, but once they know better, they can do better. So if you are, oh my God. So I do a lot of the first roles in Leah's class when the larger guys come in and she'll literally just say, if you don't know what's going on and you are in pain or heading towards discomfort, just tap and reset. We can talk about what happened. I'm not trying to hurt anybody, but if I get a hold of something and somebody explodes in the wrong direction, most of the time I can let go in enough time. But like an omoplata would be a good example. If you're deep in that and they go the wrong, like it takes, when people tap to an omoplata, I actually, I'm like, hold still. And I unwind really slowly because you're all tangled up. Yeah. And for people who don't know what that is, it's a, it's a very, very powerful shoulder lock and I don't want to hurt them. If somebody were to explode in that position, there is a chance that they could take it to an injury before I could let go, just given the way that the bodies are entangled. But Leah's brief is literally like at any point in time, if you're in pain and don't understand from what, just tap, like we'll talk about it. Guess what? Black belts, that applies to you too. If you're rolling with somebody who doesn't know what they're doing and they do some crazy shit and grab a hold of the milker grip, if you will, your index finger and your pinky finger, which isn't real, but I love doing it to people. And I tell them I'm doing the milker grip, but if somebody does that and starts bending your finger backwards, what are you going to do? Let your finger break? Yeah. It's like scream at the person or just say tap, be like, bro. Yeah. Don't do single digit manipulation. We don't do that. And they'll say, Oh dude, I didn't know. Exactly. And if they know better, they can do better. Yeah. So yeah, I've had that actually exact scenario. The milker. Well, I've caught you with the milker, but no, from white belts who are grabbing fingers. Totally. And I'll wait till the end of the role and I'll say, Hey man, just so you know. So don't do that. Why would you wait till the end of the role? Cause they're not submitting me or anything. I just pull my hand out, but true. But like, that's a good teaching moment right there. And again, I'm not a coach. So anybody who out there is a coach, I would say address as it comes up. Yeah. They're at a phase in their journey where it is all learning. Right. So I wouldn't even let them get away with that for a second. Not that they're trying to get away with anything. I would let them know in the moment and it can be, and I stop and be like, hey man, just so you know, make sure you get more than one finger and honestly you need to have at least four. Yeah, you need to have the four. Yeah, and that's why I tell them. And they always say, oh, okay, but just do it in the moment. Exactly. Yeah, do it in the moment. Don't wait until the end. Because sometimes you might forget Because honestly half the times by the end of the roll I have already forgotten about what happens at the beginning Yeah Yeah Yeah Like you said I forget pretty much what happened in the whole roll 10 seconds after the roll Yeah. Because you're just, I mean. Because you're not even thinking about it. You and I have rolled thousands of times. Yes. I could not tell you the outcome of a single one. Like, actually, I know I did the assassopus to you a bunch of times for like a week, which is not the real name of it. And I just really like doing it. Honestly, I think it's called the ninja choke, but assassopus is better. I think it's called the canto choke. Oh, maybe, maybe so. There's so many names for these. Yeah. And one of them is the assassopus. Yeah, it is. And it's not real. And you knew I was going to do it. And I was laughing so hard anyway that it's like, and even then I'm like, I don't know how we got there, nor do I care. Cause we know it's just total bullshit. Oh yeah. Yeah. No, wait, which one are you talking about? The one where you grab the collar and you throw the leg over your face. Yeah. Yeah. That's not bullshit. I've done that before. It's kind of bullshit. Once you know, it's coming. It's a very easy way to defend it. But yeah, it's other than remembering that that happened, I, it's like, dude, I could care less how our roles go. Yeah, no, me, yeah, me too. It's just like, it doesn't matter. It's open mat. We're just having fun. And that's it. Don't be this guy. Like that's, that's on the black belt. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um, let me try and find another fun one. What did Chewy say about that video? I have to assume he said the same thing. Uh, I actually didn't watch the full video of Chewy. Unbelievable. Just stealing his content without even listening to his commentary. Well, to be fair, I found this video before I found Chewy's reaction to it. Yeah. I don't know Nick incredibly well, but he's a very high level black belt and he's got his head on his shoulders. I think he'd probably say similar. I would imagine he would have a very similar response. Yeah. Yeah. This, maybe you've seen this, maybe you haven't, but this is a pretty insane. So as you can tell from the title, I have seen this. Yeah. I'm filming. I already filmed it. I saw it. that's really hard to tell based on the video did he actually you know what i mean it almost looked like a steven seagal recoil where he pulled the rifle back yeah i'm assuming what you're i think i saw a couple of these videos it gets stuck on safe it seems like the bolt is forward with the charging level uh levered down it's why it wouldn't go on safe i don't know it would imagine to me there's something going on there with the firing pin either moving forward or it's unseated yeah back it up a little bit did he pull on it or tug on it to get it to go off it just seems like there's a little bit i think he slapped it to get it to go off yeah just play it again all right so it's stuck on fire bolt is forward oh maybe pulled on it a little bit yeah he pulled on the charging lever keep going i want to see what happens that's fucking ridiculous eject the brass dude so are you skeptical of this video i'm not skeptical but i would like to see him eject a spent casing yeah because honestly i don't know if you've seen the most recent steven seagal sniper movie you know i haven't actually so go on youtube this because this is worth pointing out this is not what real recoil looks like go uh steven seagal desert sniper shooting scene and and it's truly amazing code of honor maybe okay i'm not gonna say i'm incredibly up to speed on that on your steven ferocious pieces of shit yeah when his uh current direct-to-dvd movies yeah they really are direct-to-dvd yeah um let's see this is a montage i'm not gonna do that no montages are good okay that's what i want to see the shooting just so you can see how wildly inaccurate it is. First off, can I see it too? Yes. Not even being kind. Yeah. Skip to the shooting. Where is the biblioteca? Oh, the cocaine powder all over his face. Oh, that's embarrassing. It didn't show a Steven shooting, though. It will, though. Oh, there's no recoil at all. None. Wow, that's interesting. No recoil. on any of the guns wow these must be special oh yeah just shoot the water tower because that's yeah all right i've seen enough yeah you notice how he brings the weapon all the way back to bring the charging handle back yeah that seems you can actually just totally stay on the rifle with the magnification out a little bit and stay right on target so when you get the next round in you're ready to shoot. Isn't that kind of the point of a bolt action is so you don't have to, I mean, there's very adjust everything. There's a lot of points to bolt actions, right? They're traditionally going to be with a tighter tolerance and it can be a lot more accurate that way. But I'm just saying, if you have the ability to look through your optics and stay on target and select your next target, just go ahead and get that spent casing out. Fake recoil, no recoil whatsoever. His other one is a daytime and he's just, you can see him. He's like just doing it himself. That's so funny. So that, that video is a tough one to tell. I have guns are just, I mean, they're machine parts that are put together and sometimes the Sears will, which is a mechanical, again, I'm not a gun engineer, but the Sear is a portion of the trigger mechanism that's going to prevent the firing pin from coming forward or in a semi to fully automatic setting, it will prevent the bolt from either cycling one time or multiple times. Mechanical parts fail. And, you know, not all guns are manufactured probably to the tolerance that people would want them to be. It should never happen like that. But the gun not being able to go unsafe is an indication that something in there is definitely a miss. Smacking down on the charging handle, my suspicion would be whatever tension that put on allowed the firing pin to go forward, which fired the casing. I would have liked to see the casing come out, but we'll just assumed that it did come out. Yeah, it's a problem. It's not great. Um, don't some guns, if you don't have a round chambered and it's not, um, I don't know what I'm trying to say, but it's, it won't go on safe. Okay. So hold on. A round is not chambered. Yes. And you haven't charged it. It won't go on. The bolt is to the rear. It won't go on safe. Um, i am not i mean as far as a u.s weapon yeah or is there always the option to put any something unsafe no matter what i mean as far as like a carbine platform you can manipulate the safety whether the bolt is to the rear or forward um pistols are a little bit weird because if you lock the slide to the rear you may not actually be able to move the safety because it's not it might actually be just a physical piece of metal that you're putting up. So that may not be able to work. I am not aware of that. I don't know what I'm thinking of then. I don't know what you were thinking of either, which checks out for you. No, that's, yeah, that's very common for me. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of guns, and this is a really sad story, actually. Awesome. Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. Have you heard of the Texas father who was arguing with his daughter about Trump and shot her. No. So the thing, basically the whole thing is they were arguing about Trump. Okay. He went to show her his new gun in his room. And according to him, as I lifted the gun to show her, I suddenly heard a loud bang. I did not understand what had happened. Lucy immediately fell. What kind of gun? I believe it was a pistol. Glock 9mm. And so how old was she? Not old. Like I think early twenties. Okay. She was living. She didn't live with her parents. So I'm saying, I'm thinking early twenties. Shot in the chest with a Glock 19. Didn't know what happened. I can tell you what happened. Yeah. You fired a round and hit your daughter. Now, did you mean to do that? That can be left up to a court to adjudicate. But very few firearms, if any, almost statistically anomalous, are just going to go off. Also, one of the main firearm principles, treat all weapons as if they are loaded. do not point at something that you do not intend to destroy or kill depending on the vernacular that you feel comfortable with why was the working end of the weapon at any time pointed at your daughter yep also why would a political argument of any kind terminate in you wanting to show your daughter a weapon like what's going on here yeah did it say that he was intoxicated or they just smelled alcohol? From what I remember, he had been sober, but he relapsed. I might be thinking of a different story, though. Oh, yeah. He had had issues with alcohol in the past and said he briefly relapsed on the day of his daughter's death. Yes, because he was emotional about her leaving. Okay. So again, we can, I'm sure they did a blood draw. Yeah. Oh, CCT footage shows he had bought two 500 milliliter cartons of Chardonnay from a 7-Eleven, which I don't know if you know this. 7-Eleven Chardonnay. No, it's not 7-Eleven Chardonnay, but you should know that 7-Eleven is basically one of the finest purveyors of wine on planet Earth. Well, of course, yes. They have a cellar system, incredibly good stuff. This comes in a cardboard box, which really it's much like the oak that wine often ages in. Yeah, the cardboard is made from the oak that the wine was barreled in. Recycled shavings is my understanding. Yes. Yeah, those are going to be about $4.99. You know what's dangerous about the cartons of Chardonnay? You can't tell how much you're drinking. Yeah. I mean, obviously you could fill up a cup, but as with a glass bottle of wine, you could have a little bit of judgment of yourself. because you could say, oh, I am actually kind of a POS right now. It's noon and I'm one and a quarter way through these two bottles of Chardonnay, not cartons of Chardonnay. Now, all of this is horrible. He said he bought the gun a couple of years ago before because he wanted a sense of security for his family. As I lifted the gun to show her, I suddenly heard a loud bang. I did not understand what had happened. Lucy immediately fell. Yeah, you saw your daughter in the chest. Glocks are really straightforward platforms. They have a very, very robust history of being in civilian hands and military hands and law enforcement hands. And I am not aware with Glock having a historical issue. Did you say it was a Glock 19? Yes, I believe so. Which is probably one of their more popular models of Glock. I think they're up to like Gen 5 or Gen 6 of that particular model at this point. That particular brand of pistol doesn't go off by itself. Is it possible that it certainly that it did? Of course, I'll leave a fractional of a percentage of that. But this is why basic firearm principles exist. Because let's say it were to go off by itself. If you are following the golden rules of firearm handling. Yes. It's still going to go off in your house, which is going to be an emotional event for sure. But it should not take anybody's life, which is what firearms are designed to do. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I mean, like you were saying, that was one of my first thoughts when I saw this is, so let's just give him the absolute benefit of the doubt. The gun did accidentally go off. He had no intention of doing it. If he had been falling, just two of the four rules, nothing would have happened. The worst that would have happened is you got a hole in your wall. Hopefully floor. Yeah. Right. But he's, he broke what? Beware or don't point at anything you don't want to kill. Hold the constitution while you talk about firearm safety, Michael. Oh, oh, you mean this? Yes. Talk to me about your safety protocol for the constitution, which you keep over. Are, is there people above us? No, not currently. Good. Yeah. If there were people up there working on the roof, how would you change? I would go here. Nice. And it's just not nearly as menacing. No, not near. Yeah. See, this looks stupid. I have to hold it this way. but normally it's actually pointed actually to the door coming in. So that's kind of an issue, kind of an issue or is it an issue? I mean, it's an issue. Let's be honest. It's not an issue because that's not a real gun. Yeah. If this wasn't a replica, it would be an issue. And even then, but you know what? The thing is, even with airsoft and honestly with nerf, I used to get on my kids shit and be like, do not sweep your brothers. Yes. Do not point that at me. You know what I mean? It, you know, airsoft, like it actually, even in a play setting, it is a perfect opportunity to constantly reinforce proper firearms handling procedures. Yep. My dad would do the same. I remember when I was, we were kids, I had accidentally shot my brother in the eye with an nerve gun. And it's been known to happen. I had shot it. Let's talk about the usage of the word accidentally there. Yeah. Well, this is where I'm getting with this story. Which brother? I think it was John. So my toothless, no one above between me and toothless, the wedding, the one you didn't pay attention to his best man duties. Yes. Okay, good. Yes. I had accidentally shot him in the eye with a Nerf gun. And my excuse was when I pulled the trigger, John walked in front strong. Yeah. He timed it perfectly. Yes. And I tried to explain that to my dad. He said, it doesn't matter. You have the gun. You should always know where you're pointing it. You should always know that it's loaded. You should. And you know, he ran through the rules and I was like, no dad, you don't understand. No, but I do. And he was like, no, this isn't like, there's no excuse for this. And so, yeah, ever since then I was like, oh, okay. Yeah. I should probably, I mean, even before then we'd always grown up around guns and he taught us all the rules and stuff, but yeah, I just, I just don't understand how this could happen. The alcohol probably pay, played a significant portion in that. Why though you would introduce a fire? Like, you know what I mean? Like it doesn't make any sense. And having an unsecured firearm in the house, people will say like, you know, I need to have access to it at all times. I'm like, okay, what do you do when you're taking a shower? Do you have a shower holster that you use? Do you suction cup it to the wall? I mean, like there are just times in your life where you're going to accept a little bit more risk, even though the chance of somebody breaking into your house is so astronomically low. And I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to defend yourself or be prepared to do so, but positive control or it's put away into a safe. You know what I mean? Leaving a gun out because it makes you feel safer. Yeah. I don't think this guy feels any safer. Uh, yeah. Also don't drink and handle firearms. Yeah. That's a horrible combination. Yeah. Yeah. I bad idea. Indeed. Okay. Yeah. It's horrible story. So I actually, this next story, I saw this randomly just now when I was searching up more stuff to pull up. So there's this player for the Ireland rugby team. Okay. He just had his first game on Saturday. And after that, he was getting lots of racist comments online which is horrible yeah however the irish team is uh gathering a bunch of them and going to send it to the authorities to prosecute people for racist comments online yeah um do they fall into the uh european eu yes uh what's going on with them as far as uh internet people being arrested. I have heard that Ireland is one of the countries that is investigating and possibly even prosecuting people for. You have heard? Yes, but I'm going to look it up right now. Yeah. So I did a little bit of research into this because I keep hearing Joe talking about 12,000 people got arrested last year for social media posts, which it turns out is correct, which is about 36 people per day. Yeah. But the conviction rate is microscopic. Okay. So, and again, I don't know, I don't know what that does to somebody if they're arrested for that, but they're not convicted. I don't know if that goes away. But it basically is saying it doesn rise to the standard which they do have a standard in Europe And apparently it pretty high Um it around threats harassment and intimidation And again I paraphrasing slightly as an article that I read a couple of days ago not claiming to be an expert on this. Um, good luck with that. You know, trying to police speech. Yeah. Even horrible speech. Like it's like, what are we doing? It's 2026. You want to make races. The guy's black for those of who are audio only. It's like, just be better. Like, is that, I worry, like what is somebody who's going to take the time to make that type of comment? God, what does their life look like? Yeah, what are they doing? They're sitting in their mom's basement. They're sucking at life is what they're doing. They really are. And it's not an excuse for their behavior because honestly, if that's who you are, like be better than that. Strive to be better than the basement dweller who's making a comment like that. Knowing that it's hurtful and hateful with probably your only intent is sharing some of the hurt and hate that you feel in your life. like be better. Yeah. Which nobody is going to do that. I mean, that's what I would wish for the world, but it's not, it's a pipe dream probably at this point in time. But if you had, if you gave me the choice of, okay, we're going to either regulate that speech or we're going to let it be free. I'm falling on the, let it be free every single time. Yeah. Because who gets to decide what's hateful, hurtful, uh, harassment. And I'm sure that there are legal definitions and people way smarter than me that can write those things. And I would leave it to that. But man, it's, I see parallels not to speech like this, but just, I'll go back to the example we were talking about with the plaques in the White House that are really interesting descriptions that I think are deviating from objective reality and the truth and very colorful language. It's setting a precedent. And then at some point in time, somebody on the other side of the aisle is going to come in there and then they are going to set another precedent. It's going to go back and forth and back and forth. So what happens as things change and who gets to decide what is legal speech who in compelled speech or illegal? And you know what I mean? It gets real, it gets really iffy. Um, I would rather have people with hurt feelings than regulated speech. yeah yeah and you know i think like you're saying don't say that shit online like that's just stupid don't do that don't say it in general yeah exactly yeah just be a good person but it's a good bumper sticker michael yeah be a good person yeah but you should not be uh arrested for something you say online especially if it's not a threat if it's a threat that's a little bit different if you say hey i'm going to come to your house at this date and time and i'm going to kill you and then they were able to investigate and figure out you were trying to rally other people to do so. That is a different story. That's kind of an issue. Yeah. But if you say, oh, I hate black people online, it's like, dude, don't say that. But it's not a threat. That's just, you have the freedom to be an idiot and you're being a total idiot. I agree. Okay. Be better. Be better. Yeah. Okay. We're really just crushing these topics today. We really are. Yeah. Yeah. This came out like a couple months ago, but the SEAL team mission in North Korea. Didn't we already talk about this? I don't think me and you. Did you? I don't know. I don't know either. They shot a fisherman or something like that? Killed a fisherman? I think they shot a few civilians trying to install a listening device. Yeah. And so I have absolutely no connection or insight into real world operations at all. Oh, they were at Red Squadron. Okay, so it's a development group. David Phillips. Okay, so I cannot speak with any level of authority as to whether or not this mission slash, not even really a raid, looks like they were trying to emplace a sensor, which seems a little bit odd to use that particular command because I'll just say that there are people who specialize in this type of thing. But whatever. If that did happen, it sounds like scroll down a little bit. They went from a sub to maybe an SDV and then keep going, keep going, keep going. What? I want to see what ended up happening here. Small boat, 14 feet long. Yep. Keep going. The estimates have been two and three. Okay. So yeah, they had an encounter with what seems to be fishermen, two or three fishermen. Military operations are inherently dangerous. I mean, I've never been to North Korea. Don't ever want to go to North Korea. I've never tried to do a submersible operation in North Korea to implant a sensor. I can understand why we would potentially want to have a sensor there. I am certain in the planning process, there was a brief talking about potential actions on if they were to encounter somebody like this. And depending on the outcome of the actions taken, things that would happen there, whether the mission would continue or they would call an audible and be extracted, which I think is what they ended up doing because they were exposed, essentially. Not all military operations go as planned in briefs, man. Sometimes it's a, sometimes it's, you got to put them in the L column instead of the W column. And it's an unfortunate intersection of what sounds to be like those fishermen with the people there who probably didn't have any ability in the limited amount of time they had to make that decision to determine whether or not they were a fisherman or not. It's going to be all based off of threat, you know, hostile act, hostile intent, and your inherent right to self-defense, even though you're inside of the boundaries of a southern nation. And that's how it goes, man. It's a dangerous job. Yeah. Also, have you ever, like how often in overseas would you actually use your pistol in a real world scenario? Where did you get this question from? I just thought about it. I was like, cause I don't know. What do you want the answer to be daily? I feel like you want the answer to be something. No, no. I'm genuinely just curious. Zero. Never. Really? Yeah. I don't think you were in the room yet. When I had the interview with Earl Plumlee, he's an example of an army guy who ended up using his pistol. And I think throwing grenades back at fighters that they had thrown at him. There was a man named Mike day who got shot. I believe it was 27 times. And when he came to, he didn't have access to his primary. So he shot some people with his pistol. Other than those, Mike Day is the only person that I am aware of inside of the SEAL community. Earl was a Green Beret. I think he's out now. Was a Green Beret. His story was amazing, though. So I have an episode with him. It's worth a listen. You're like, I'm sorry, you did what? You ran where? You were playing patty cakes with grenades? Yeah. Get some. um maybe the green berets uh community or other special operations communities have examples of that i the only one i know of is mike day and so that's one out of tens of thousands of operations not all of which i am aware of by the way but i'm just saying that story is pretty well known throughout the community so it's kind of like a last resort thing what is your secondary weapon system yeah right so you practice all the time with it you know primary to secondary drills you know, the Mr. Bill drill where it's like rifle shot, sling, pistol shot, holster, bring it back up. Primary rifle shot, pistol, rifle, a ton of practice for a baseball game. You never get to play. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So, and probably don't want to. I mean, I'm an okay pistol shot. Yeah. I mean, 50 to a, I mean, I would, I don't think I would shoot it. Well, maybe to get their head down, I would shoot at somebody at a hundred yards with a pistol, but I'm not going to accurately hit anybody there. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Okay. Sometimes it's just better to run away. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I was just genuinely curious on that one. I know you have genuine levels of curiosity about many things. Yes. That is actually very true. Yeah. Do you own a pistol? I do own a pistol. What do you do with it? Um, I go out and shoot it every once in a while. Where do you go? Uh, there's a range. Today's episode is brought to you by fabric by Gerber life. It's the beginning of 2026. It's a new year. Every year I try to think about things that I can do, improvements I can make. I don't think I'm alone in that. I think a lot of people are taking stock of their life and thinking about what are the most valuable things that I have and what can I do to protect them? If you've been putting off getting life insurance, there's no better time to do it than now. Over two thirds of Americans overestimate the cost of life insurance, but it's more affordable than you think. 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Back to the show. Indoor range up on the way to Whitefish, kind of the one by the dump, you know what I'm talking about? It's behind the dump. There's an indoor range there? Yeah, it's underground. Rifle and pistol. Yeah. By the dump? I know there's an outdoor range facility that I go to with Austin there. The one that has the trap house? I don't know what that means. The skeet shooting house? Maybe. I don't go shoot skeet, so I'm not aware of that. Yeah. No, they have a- An underground rifle range? Yeah, it only goes out to 100 yards. That's an impressive underground range. Yeah. It's pretty nice. Okay. It's, uh, I'm blanking on the name right now. What do you do with your pistol when you're not using it? Store it. Where? In a little, I have this like lock, uh, this big, it's not like Pelican, but it's similar to a Pelican case that locks. How many locks? Two. TSA locks? I don't know. It's, it's on the, the case itself. Okay. The keys are with me at all times. Okay. If you were to lose the key, what's your course of action? Uh, break into the safe or the, to the, uh, don't we have stop box sponsors or sponsored the show? All you have is the pistol. No, I have a couple, I have, uh, two rifles and like three pistols. I think, what do you do with your rifles? They're in the, They're also in the, it's a pretty big box. So you're just a walking armory. Basically. Yeah. Yeah. How do you prevent somebody from just walking off with your armory? Well, it's currently not my house. It's not my parents' house, which is an actual- Now they know where it's at. Good job. Didn't ask you the fucking street address of where your armory currently is located. Nobody knows where that is, so. Yeah, they'll find out. Yeah. Yeah. I guess, I mean, there really is no, but I, it's not that I can't afford a safe, but I don't want to spend the money on a safe. All right. Life is about the choices we make. Yes. Cool. Michael, walking armory Shelton in the house. You're dying. Your aunt was incorrect. You have the Junta virus, which I believe you got from mice fecal matter. Probably. Dusty mice, fecal matter in Montana. Yeah, that's probably what happened. I was working with mice recently, so. Were you? Scientific experiments. Scientific experiments, yes. Top secret. What else you got for today? Let's see. Oh, a helicopter crash in Wasatch County. This was like four weeks ago. Let's take a look. Yes, I have the video here. That's an unfavorable screen grab. Oh, yeah. Have you seen this one? The UAE has two helicopters flew around the Wolf Creek campground. Eventually, they moved back a bit and saw this. Oh. One of the helicopters spinning out and crashing. Oh. Yeah, that's a good horrible cameraman. I'm okay with it. You know, not everything has to. There's the aftermath. Which is crazy. Yeah. The spinning like that is going to be an indication of loss of tail rotor effectiveness. I, how can I speak about this broadly? I don't want to get anybody in trouble. There are things you can put on the back of the skids called bear paws. I have them on the heli. They're plastic. Let's like hold up a little. Not that they are this size, but they could be something like this. If the skid goes down the middle, it diffuses the, it increases the surface area. Right. And if you land on snow, imagine the difference in, let's say, again, the thinness of the foam, which is not how thin a rotor or a skid is. Heavy pieces of equipment, because this person landed, by the way. So you land in the snow, and especially snow that has not been compacted, right? And you have a lot of weight going into a very small surface area. The skids can sink down into the snow. Not that bear paws are going to make it impossible to do so, but they provide a larger footprint and platform. I'm not an expert at identifying Bell helicopters. I know that is a Bell helicopter, and I get a little bit lost if it's like a 406, a 206, a 207, whatever it is. the tail rotor on that particular helicopter does not sit incredibly high up in the air. A lot of the weight can be rearward sometimes. So you can imagine if they were to sit down and have a little bit of a tail low attitude, it is my understanding that very likely what happened is after they landed, as they were taking off, if the nose came up first, you could have had a small portion of the tail rotor strike the snow. Oh, gotcha. And they are moving at an incredible rate of speed. And there is a, you know, gearbox mechanisms for the tail. All of that can get out of sync. And the only thing stopping a helicopter from rotating like that is the counter force that is coming from the tail rotor. So, so it's likely that the rotor, the tail rotor struck and disabled it somehow. It seems to be from what I have heard from people who are aware of what very likely happened. I'm sure there'll be an NTSP report. So I'm not trying to jump ahead of that by any stretch, but it seems like what likely happened is there was contact with the tail rotor, likely with the snow, which you might think, oh, it's just snow. How much damage could that do? Well, if it's compacted snow, it could do quite a bit. And again, those tail rotors are spinning. It's not like it's steel. A lot of them are just composite, you know, and it doesn't take a whole lot. You're going to be out of balance. Those things are, if you look at the tail rotor or even the main rotor blade, they're tracked and balanced. So to make them, you know, harmoniously be able to spin without rattling the thing across. I mean, I've never been in a situation like that. LTE, loss of tail rotor effectiveness. Really, your only option is to slow the spin, you reduce power. Because the more you pull power, the more that's the counter you're going to spin in the other direction, the centrifugal force, because you have no counterbalance. So if you rip on the power, you're going to spin faster. Right. And go up. If you reduce the power, you probably spin slower, but you're going to go down. And they went down over trees. Yeah. So I think they are incredibly lucky that they survived. Yeah. That's gnarly. He got out of that. He says one woman seemed like she might have been in shock. Yeah. You think so? Okay. Yeah. Wow. Seemed to be mostly okay. and one person had a gash on his head. He was presumably the one Wasatch County Sheriff says was transported to the hospital for a head injury. You think? Yeah, geez. Blasard's son started running towards the wreck, but Blasard stopped him because he was afraid what his son might have found at the crash site. That's fair. Yeah. Go back to see if you can see the footage of it again. Yeah. Pre-camping. Eventually, they moved back a bit Yeah, that's a tail rotor issue. Yeah. Yeah. That sucks. I'm not, I fly helicopters. I'm not claiming to be an expert by any stretch. I'm not aware of many ways you can get into that type of rotation without it being a tail rotor issue. Yeah. You want to see a gnarly one? Yes. Go to basically Airwolf helicopter at Newport Beach. And you see another example of what happens when the tail rotor stops working And this one you can visibly see a piece of the tail rotor linkage essentially eject from its current duty station You haven seen this one I don think so Wait what beach did you say it was? I think Newport Beach. It was in California. Airwolf helicopter may not be. This is also a Bell helicopter, which, or no, is it a Bell? I don't know. Bell 222? Sure. We call it a triple two. It's not a big deal. Oh, sorry. Excuse me. I don't know if that's the case i just made that up in the moment oh here we go yeah i think pull that bad boy up i think this is maybe we can just keep people from ever getting into a helicopter again after today yeah here we go okay hold on let me uh yeah i don't know if you need audio just hit play actually there you go so tail rotor oh man and what are your choices right he's got to put it down wow and that is what happens and how quickly it can happen and on this one they found it like a piece of the linkage of the tail rotor i believe they found it on the sidewalk or a street um can is there are we able to see the exact moment like i don't think yeah hit play again no because you know how it even looks like it's going slowly but it's not that's just the pain Oh, you did actually, you could see it. Yeah. I could see it fly off. You see it fly off. And at that point, man, you have no directional control. That's scary. Because if you think about it, you have an engine that is spinning. And I don't know if this one is a clockwise or counterclockwise, but you're just spinning up there without that counter pressure and force. You're just, it's going to go in the other direction. So his only option is to dump your collective and put it on the ground. Yeah. And I think in that situation, he might've actually been as horrible as this is to say, he might've had a better crash landing, which are not words that are actually probably put together often because he hit the trees and slowed his descent as opposed to just pancaking. Yeah. So, but he did like technically the right thing in that scenario. He did basically the only thing he can do, which is reduce power and get it on the ground. Yeah. That's crazy. Indeed. Do they know what caused that? I believe, again, I'm not a part of the NTSB nor do I speak for the NTSB. I believe one of the linkage points that goes to the tail rotor that was part of the, the gearbox and drive that spins the tail rotor itself separated. And then you can basically see the tail rotor itself depart the aircraft in flight at one point. And that doesn't happen unless there's a cascading failure somewhere else. Yeah. You know, um, okay. Do you have anything positive for today? What else do you have? Not that's fine. Sometimes Fridays are just supposed to be a downer. Yeah. Um, the, have you heard of the whiz, uh, dating app for kids? No. What are we talking kids, kids, 13 year old teenagers basically. Oh, no. Wiz, often referred to as Tinder for Teens, is a social discovery app designed for teenagers and young adults, officially ages 13 plus, to meet new people via a swipe-based interface. Oh, my God. What are we loading up our children to think of? You sound horrible. Okay, we're good. Are we good? I am now. Did you just swallow that? I had to. I've heard you say that before, but I mean, what are we conditioning people? God, it is such an early age. Marketed as a tool for making friends. Go make friends in the real world. And listen, of course, you live in a place like you live on an island by yourself. Maybe this would help you interface with the rest of the world. but how many people actually live in that situation i mean come on and it's like how could the how stupid are the designers to be like no this will not be taken over by predators why do you why do you assume that they are stupid and don't completely know of that risk and just discount it to make money that's true actually yeah there's no there's i'm sorry man there every adult dating app, even my dad's been catfished. Let's leave it at that. Yeah. Anybody who is on those apps, I have horror, you have horror stories of online dating. So any adult understands that the apps are imperfect. They can be manipulated. Things can be presented that they aren't. Anybody, I'm going to assume it wasn't a 13 year old that made this app or had this idea. So if adult is making that, they understand what the current ecosystem is for adults. And they're basically recreating that for kids. There is no plausible world where they're like, you know, because it's kids, it's going to be better. No, I just don't think, I think it's some dollar figure. People just don't care. Yeah. Yeah. Which is beyond, I don't know. I mean. Somebody wants to offer me a billion dollars for me to question my morals. I am willing to accept this scientific research test. However, I get to keep the billion dollars. Yeah. It will depend on what you ask me to do. But I hate to tell you, I don't think I would change my answer based off the money. It's like, I just want enough money to be able to say no to things and do what I want to with my time. Yeah, no, that's a very good. Yeah. It's a good mantra. Yeah. I mean, I guess it's not surprising giving everything that's coming out with all these billionaires. But what is coming out with all these billionaires? Oh, just the Epstein stuff and how. What do you make of all that? So I was just doing a change agents episode with a guy named Nick Bryant, who got a hold of Epstein's little black book in like 2008 and published it. He's a reporter. I've had a few conversations with him about it. And we were just talking about the release of the, you know, 3.5 million. And apparently Pam Bondi said there's another 3 million, but it's not going to be released, which is a violation of the law that was just passed. I don't know how they're able to do that. Remember, though, the Dow is at 50,000. Well, that's so. I mean, and nothing else matters. Can you believe that? What? I don't, and this is what I was asking him. What's going on? Like, you know, the three and a half million documents, that's a tremendous amount. And she went from saying the documents are on my desk and doing like this little TikTok release of these people with three ring binders who released almost nothing that was new, to Kash Patel saying that there is nothing of note whatsoever that criminal charges could be brought from, to now 3.5 million documents being released, plus another, let's just call it multiple million documents that they're saying now that they're not going to. I am at a loss as to what is going on at this point. I don't understand. And I mean, how, like I already was not trustful of the government. How could I ever trust the government again with anything? But what does that look like for you in your day-to-day life? Like, what are you going to do differently? What other choices will you make? I can't really do, I mean, what can I do? Like, I can't not pay taxes. I can't, like, that's the thing. I think that's what so many people are frustrated about is what can you do about this? Yeah. Nick's solution, what he's trying to get done is essentially an independent review outside of members of Congress. Non-governmental, individual or incremental or independent. That's the word I was looking for. And I forget the other two words associated with it, but it was something that could force prosecutions. Because there's some stuff in there that doesn't make any sense, right? There's some very coded language. There's also some very benign shit in there. Yeah. And it's like, there's so much. And also a lot of those things are investigative files where people can make claims of absolutely anything that they want to. And it doesn't mean that they're verified. That can't be lost either. It's like, are they releasing them in such a bolus in the hopes that people don't use search tools to be able to find the right stuff? Is it just the easiest way for them to get from A to B? Why are certain things like I have no idea what's going on, but I could not be less impressed. with cash Patel and Pam Bondi. I mean, I just think they're horrible people. I think it's either their IQs are more fitting for a thermostat, which I don't think is the case, or they are being told from the absolute top that this is your playbook and this is what you can say and nothing outside of this. And the reason that they are sounding like buffoons is that they are limited by what they can say. So they're bouncing off these walls of parameters they have to act inside of, or their heads are going to get lopped off metaphorically. Which is, I mean, I guess I've never been in such a high pressure situation, but how could you, is it that high pressure? I don't know. I mean, I would assume that you have a lot of pressure from the top, But how could you sacrifice your personal values and morals to protect people that are fucking pedophiles and horrible people? How prevalent do you think that is in our government? I don't know. It's hard to tell. Here's my worry. I am hearing very popular, very influential people starting to say things like our entire government is comprised of pedophiles. That's not likely. Yeah, I don't think it's every single. Well, there has to be some structure for us to rebuild upon. I can't get to a place where I believe that every member of elected member of our government institutions is either eating people, trafficking in children, pedophilia. Are there some people who probably have some very, very kinky and illegal and just absolutely disgusting desires? Sure. Are we benefited at all by saying that it's all of them? I don't think so because people are getting into a place where they have absolutely no faith and trust in anything. And I don't know where you go from there. Yeah, I don't know either, but, um, I mean, with all of this, how, how can you have faith and trust in, in, in, in any of this? Okay. So then where do we go? I, that's, I mean, that's the thing is I don't know. I, cause it seems to me that a lot of the power structures that are, uh, controlling our daily lives, not controlling, but are above us have a lot of inner connection with all this. And it's like, that is, that's everything we interact with in our daily lives. the very top of that is all connected with Epstein and pedophilia and sex trafficking. And it's like, like, it just, it feels horrible to even live in that world where everything you do indirectly contributes to that. I mean, I don't think you are directly or indirectly contributing to pedophilia, Michael. I understand. I have to pay taxes to people. I understand people. We can draw the breadcrumbs there, but I think the vast majority of all human beings on earth, and it's actually one of the few issues that seems to align both the left and the right, like the abuse of children. The problem is absolutely nobody's being held accountable for it. Well, yeah. And that's, I think, the first step. That's the first step. And honestly, do I think our entire government structure needs to be burned to the ground? No. But should we open this thing up to the sunlight to the degree where maybe the vast majority of people get to wear a different type of uniform in their prison cell or, and I don't, it's, you know, one of the points that Nick brought up is there's a lot of different ways you can corrupt people, right? It doesn't have to all be child sex stuff. It could, he, you know, he was using an example of, you know, people in power who are closetedly gay and whatever they're using escort services, or maybe even it's legal where they're doing it, but it is their persona that they don't want to have brought into the forefront. So they're compromised in another way or money or influence or whatever it is. So yeah, I want all of those people exposed and I want sunlight to be the best antiseptic for this. I don't think that it would ruin our government if we were to extricate this level of corruption. Would it be a massive hiccup? Absolutely. But I do think that there are people who are in our government who are there for exactly the right reasons. And if we were to open this thing up, I think that they would be illuminated even more. So I think we could rebuild. I just get really worried about very influential people saying like the whole thing has just got to go. They also offer no solutions, by the way. Trust nobody. Everything involved in the government is this. Everybody is complicit in this. The whole thing has to go. I have no solutions or explanations or even an ability to recommend what should come after that. I don't know where we go from there. I don't know either. I don't know either. But yeah, I mean, there are obviously people trying to work for good. I mean, Thomas Massey and Ro Khanna are having two of like the most vocal, hey, we need to do something about this. We're trying to look into it. All this stuff. So there are people that are trying to do good, but it's just super disheartening. We have to see something actually happen. Yeah, and nothing is happening. I can't I don't know Pam Bondi at all I actually don't even know that much about her but I do know the Dow is at 50,000 which is a statement that I don't believe she wanted to say had any inclination to say and I also think she had no choice but to say that when pressed I think she was told that when pressed you better start talking about the economy which is galactically stupid by the way Yes, very. But the picture of her where the people who were interviewing her, they were in the hearing asking the questions, asked for the victims of Epstein to stand up behind her and raise their hands and she would not look at them. Yeah. It's like, okay. See, to me at that point, you're just complicit in covering up horrible crimes. And I don't care what the people above you are saying. you are complicit in covering this shit up. It's because you're a moral person, Michael. Yeah. Here's the reality though. You and I have never been in that situation. Who knows the leverage that they may have. You know what I mean? It's easy to sit here from the outside. And I would like to believe that both my morals and yours would survive that. But also those morals may prevent us from ever getting in that seat in the first place. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. I could actually see that. But I also can't say that I've ever had somebody try to pressure me that way. I would, and I would never get there because I would fall back to one of my favorite lines, which is just take a step back and go fuck your own face long before I ever got to that position. Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm not going to tow the party line to try to get that job. I don't want it. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, that would probably disqualify you from. Oh yeah. They're not looking for that person. No, they're looking for somebody who says it does exactly what they want. I could not be less impressed with Bondi, Patel, Kristi Noem. I am shocked. The whole administration, I am not impressed with. Well, and again, I, from a policy perspective, I agree with a lot of the policies. Their tactical execution is absolutely an utter dog shit. Yeah. So what else? How long have we been going? 105. Let's just leave people with that super high note. We talked about our future, how the sun is rising on America. It's going to be. We're doomed. It's so over. I think they want people to feel like they're doomed and that they can't do anything. And I don't have the solution to what it is that you can do. But burying your head in the sand, I don't think is a part of it. There's probably a few thousand people in government, I think, pulling the strings between elected officials and career bureaucrats. There's 300 plus million adults in the U.S. there's got to be a way there's yeah there's something something needs to happen it's on your generation michael yeah it's for us to figure out which is scary scary thought it truly is cool all right all right