Messy Wessy: Monday, May 11th, 2026

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson, Claudin, where you're host. It's your favorite show, the Fast 5 Things You Need to Know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. It sounds amazing. Welcome back to the Toast, and happy Monday. Happy mom day. Happy Monday. Happy Monday. Happy Monday. Happy Monday after Mother's Day. Mother's Day this year felt like my birthday. I got so many texts. Like, are we texting other moms? Yeah, you know what? And I woke up really early and I received a couple of texts already, and I was like, what if I'm just the person that initiates? So closely. What if I'm the person who writes in the group chat first, not the one who's last, like the slob? Yeah, you too, happy Mother's Day. I know. I sent so many you toos. I felt bad. I know. I know. I know. She put you on blast because she got me a gift in a card and she put me on blast a gift Yes, she got me actually a really cute gift. That's like you wouldn't think it's like the craziest gift But it's like my favorite gift. I've gotten a long time. It's like it was just like a set of little pastel bowls That wow like ceramic bowls that are pleading. Maybe she's maybe maybe to give it to me in person Yeah, no, she said she was like at the mall and that she just saw them and thought of me She just want to get me a little something because I've just been like really amazing and oh my god And no cuz I made like the dinner I guess I've been like cooking a lot and we had taco night Friday night And like I needed little bowls and I guess she saw like my lack of little bowls and She saw a bowl so she's sent a bowl and I got these she saw your lack of little bowls She saw me really is what she saw. Yeah She took a video of them today like love them so much I'll post them there's stop to like that brand What is it? STA UB. It's like it's similar to like crusade. It's ceramic quality things I've never heard of it. Although if I did see the brand STA UB like personally, I would say stout I don't know I don't know. I don't know either So yeah, and then I didn't get her a card or a gift like I looked at ours I didn't get I didn't get anyone that's terrible. Yeah, it's not just like I Don't feel put on blast that she got you flowers like then you feel a musketeer get her flowers Yeah, of course like I didn't realize like that I was also supposed to be showering other mothers Do you know what I mean with loving gifts and that and effect your first time, you know? Yeah, so it did I don't know if I'm gonna get like this many texts always But maybe because it was my first like people went out of their way to text me And by the time like I thought I'm like, oh, maybe I should text someone I had pretty much already spoken to everyone except like Laura Elena. So I sent her a text She's like my mom buddy because like we literally gave birth like the same week So I was like happy about this day, but like besides that I had already communicated with everyone That's so funny. Oh and also say yes I did think about like being the one to send the text first and like put everyone on blast and and I didn't do that But I thought about it Maybe next year and the thought is not the thing that counts. No, but like maybe next I think I'm gonna do it next year I couldn't do it like is what the next time about it early alarm for next year Like the minute I thought about it then like all of a sudden eight hours past, you know, right? Of course, of course things like that always happen classic, but next year. I got you guys So we went away for the weekend I have so much to tell you that I didn't tell you like offline because I wanted to share it on the podcast Okay, how was your weekend? Kind of something insane happened like the craziest thing ever has happened actually I'm not sure if I'm overreacting or underreacting. You know, tell me but let me just say we went and I'm not gonna say the place Because you know, I don't like to disparage. Do you like the place? No, okay, I don't know. I know I did But like I don't know how to Like it contextualize what you know now So let me just say it was like a you know a bed-and-breakfast type of retreat in the woods It was very woods. We went on lots of like nature walks. It was so nice. It was a spa. Was it a big brand name? I think so. Yeah, okay You want to hear something crazy? I can stay on track what what happened So I I did like become a Karen But I don't know if I was being like a Karen or I wasn't Karen enough So We got there and I called for a crib and we did our first nap in the crib and like the crib was like a little small It was almost like a bassinet. I'm like, what the hell is this? So I call like you guys have a bigger crib there like we have a pack-and-play. I was like, oh perfect We love a pack-and-play pack-and-play comes he sleeps in it that night the next day We do our naps in it and then like on the second day Ben I don't know what he was doing in the bathroom like rearranging shit and he comes out and he was like Are you vaping again? And I said Excuse me. Why the fuck would you ask me that? Mother's Day. She accused others today and he goes like this and he holds up a jewel He was like this was underneath the pack-and-play mattress like between the little mattress pad and the bed and I was like what? I'm like, that's not mine. He was like it literally was under there. We slept on top of it I Was so upset I was freaking out. Yeah, I Of course called downstairs and I had to do it over the phone because if I did it in person I would have been like, oh no, it's fine, but it's not fucking fine. Yeah, right. I don't know is it I just what I'll tell you Ruby is fine. Yeah, Ruby's fine So unacceptable from the hotel like I can play like I'm a new one But we're gonna find you like you don't have to worry I mean he could have been but he's fine. It was under the thing. It's he's fine Like someone else's germs nicotine and tobacco like I'm sick the germs are like the least part of it So I called on wait, do you think it was Ruby's mother stay present to you? Yeah, he picked one up at 7-eleven and he hit it like a tooth fairy. So I called downstairs and I was like I Like speak with the manager I literally felt like such a Karen and they're like, okay, he'll call you back. He called me back and I was like Just wanna let you know that this happened And he was like he had an appropriate response which was like oh my fucking God like that's insanely inappropriate That's unacceptable, you know beneath art and he was like, what can I do? What can I do? What can I do? A million dollars should cover it Of course And I didn't want to say that because then they make you think that like you're only calling like to get the discount And he was like we could send champagne. I was like, I don't need champagne. I'm not truly Sir, I trust that you'll make this right. He said absolutely So what do you think is an appropriate Accommodation to be made if I'm being measured and I'm speaking for both parties one night free. Oh Okay, I got a 250 dollar credit. How much was a night there? Not that and that means you have to like spend more money there Well, no, we already had to you know run up a tab of room service and things So it just made a very small dent, but I'm like 250 dollars. That doesn't feel appropriate. No, that feels low Yeah, and so like I kind of like liked the place and would return But I don't know how to hold space for the jewel Oh, you can just like you just I guess have to check every crevice of the pack and play And I guess maybe who's had it up? Well Well, I know who's fault it was then No, oh it came set up like the guy brought it in and it was like a young teenager like it was obviously him Oh, so heads me to roll. I didn't know that I just thought it was like wedged in there from like the last Stay maybe some parent No, but if you can know who it probably is. Yeah, the the Person brought it up fully assembled already and just wheeled it in and it was like a young kid It was a kid and on the phone. I got the sense that like the manager knew exactly who it was like There's like a teenager who's always he's always having to like tell him to stop vaping, you know 1,000 percent Yeah, no, it was definitely a hostel staff. He should be fired Absolutely, right if you can't keep your jewel out of the cribs. Yeah, you shouldn't work there. Yeah, I agree I agree. I was so upset like I could not believe Yeah, that's really disturbing and not cool. They'll be not cool. It's okay Yeah, so There were a lot of other great things about the weekend, but like that's sort of the headline No, it was I hate to like make my whole trip about that because it was really great Like first of all, I went to the spa and they had something I had never seen before So I go and I said she's like Like literally it's crazier than crack She sits me down. What scent would you like, you know, they all smell terrible And I was like unscented please and she was like, okay, would you like me to lower the breastplate? I said what? She's like we have a breastplate. I'm like, what's that? There's literally in the table where you you can lower it like sinks in so your breasts can sort of like dangle and like Create space for your breasts hold space. I was like girl lower that to the floor like it was probably the most comfortable I've ever been during massage all places need that that's a type of when I say inclusivity. That's what I'm talking about Yeah, was it like a spa first hotel, you know with yeah, yeah, yeah leading spa. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah We're gonna find out what hotel it was guys. I find it was the Pendry Natteri. I don't give a fuck like what the pen I know we're named Pendry Natteri. It's part of the montage collection. So like they have budget they've budgeted to credit me, okay? Pendry Natteri of the montage collection. I've never heard of it. It's like this really huge Estate it was like a former home of the king of Morocco that they turned of course into a better place Of course you had to go. I know when they said that I was like you're kidding my history My property that's my king right there and they have like a spa a farm bunch of restaurants Like it's really and it's on like this huge park It's a public park, but it's like up the mountain on the park And so you can go down the park is like this insane walking path with rivers and creeks like it was very natural very nature weekend So yeah, it was crazy except for that like that is crazy. So all in all how was your little family stay cage? It was amazing like I really felt like I was on drugs the whole time like I was so happy We like did spa bed and I like you know took turns going to the spa We went for walks. We had beautiful dinners. I had a cocktail. Yeah, that's right Turn up at the netiri left. Oh, there was a wedding on Saturday night there, of course the bride was a toaster like it was amazing. She came out to me She was like I could tell she was trying not to get emotional She was like I can't believe you're here like you know understand my grandfather's name was Ruby And it just feels so special that you guys are here and I was like your grandpa I never meet someone whose grandfather was named was Ruben like I'm not okay. That goes by Ruby She was like, yeah, no, that's my grandfather and I guess she like felt the presence of her grandfather Ross Moses through Ruben's offer. So I was like honored to be there for her and Ruby was the guest of honor Yeah, yeah, I'm not okay. It was really beautiful. That's so beautiful. And then you went to the next game Oh, right. And then Sunday, you know right after we checked out we drove because we were like only an hour and a half away from Philly We were equidistant between Philly and New York. So Ben was like what if we went? Oh, I didn't This part of the story either. This is so funny ready So I was like I will go to the next game with you But you always want to go with me and the baby and it's like we can't sit in the stands like he's a baby I'm like buy me a sweet like seriously. You want me to go buy me a sweet That was like you just buy turt in Ruby, but I was like you can just buy a sweet I'm like well if anyone can figure it out. It's you so figure it out Lo and behold like two rogue tickets on ticket master like in a suite like you could just buy seats and it's like sweet Yes, I guess I guess what but no, but it's also like cover owns a suite like they can like Celtics Celtics if they only need whatever I was like, oh party. It was an amazing sweet. We went like and we got there and it was empty I was like well, obviously people are gonna come Halfway through the first quarter no one's there and I'm like, oh my god like did we literally get our own sweet? Five minutes later. I'm like I'm wearing Ruby in the bouncer so I'm not the bouncer the carrier So I'm like bouncing him around the door opens and like literally a school bus had just dropped off a group of religious young Jewish kids like They all came running in with their yamakas and I was like no fucking way and like four or five parents like Chaperones we were literally in and they and of course we got to chatting It was their sweet and they were like selling some tickets and they were like we actually had brought in kosher food But they took it at security even though we had prior authorization I'm like, are you telling me that we would have showed up to this sweet and it would have been fully catered kosher And he's again, but we had like illogical issues with the security downstairs It was so like kismet and freaky like it was it was amazing, of course lovely people, you know We all got along swimming late. They were rooting for the next. Thank God. I was gonna say they're feeling like moving to Philly Oh, no, you know attached and a kinship No, not at all, but you know Philly people have a certain reputation of being just Awful and I have to say some of the nicest people I guess when you just are with a baby like people are nice to you But every single person Ruby's new thing is he goes like this like he wants to touch everyone's hands He puts his hand out and everybody was like giving him high fives and stuff And you know, he was wearing a big Nick's hat Nick's jersey and they all were so nice him even though I kind of felt bad like the empath in me It was like technically a home game for Philly and there was like three Philly fans there like it was when they were Turning the lights off and they can announcing the players people were booing the Philadelphia players in their own stadium Who won was that the fourth and final? Oh fourth and final sweet It was a great game to be at we run to the next round. Oh exciting. Who do they play next? It's still playing there. They are figuring it out But Ben says it's gonna be either the Cleveland Cavaliers or the Detroit Pistons. I'm rooting for the King Charles Cavaliers I know you are And that's exciting for Kylie and Timothy. It means more spottings And I almost almost didn't get like the headphones that you're supposed to put on kids Like I just figured like he's one like whatever. Oh my god. It was so loud and I was paranoid. I was texting chat I was like, I have these headphones like I'm paranoid. They're like, yeah, you should be you got like the shittiest pair and they're not So there I am like bouncing him in the hallway like no, I don't even be cardboard. I thought of it last minute I got an Insta cart from Walmart. I was like grateful to have gotten them Yeah, and chat was like, yeah, you're a bad mom and this is a piece of shit and like you should leave and I was like wait Really? No, they were like, it's fine. But like take quiet breaks. So I was like going out into the hallway like I was really paranoid I'm sure it was fine. I'm sure it was fine. But it is nerve-wracking. I felt that way at Disney on ice But like I'm sure yeah, no Disney on ice was quiet compared to this like it was so in the front row We were right feel like it's I feel like it's actually quieter in the front row than like the big speakers up top So it was a roller coaster of emotions of a weekend highs lows but all in all I'm oh and Ben very much understood the assignment when it comes to your gift And you know what when you when you shared the gift that he got you I remembered that he did tell me and it passed Muster so I didn't harp on it. I was obviously expecting like a Birkin and the back was small so Yeah, maybe have a new mini Birkin and I was like, oh, okay, so it's not a Birkin and I didn't recognize like the wrapping or anything Sometimes Cartier, you know, they do like the white paper. Yeah, what is that? Hermes too? Yeah, right. So I'm like, what is this and It was actually even better like I'm such a brat being like wanting a Birkin. This was so much better He had me a bracelet made with diamonds and rubies I don't know how I didn't even think of that like duh. It was so obvious Now I am having some changes made But all in all it was a perfect gift. Yeah, the thought counted and it was a beautiful thought. What did you get? I didn't even talk to you all weekend. Oh, I got a really cute pair of prouder Flats and made even more special because like Zach went to the mall with Harry and he knows that my favorite colors pink So they're like pink flats. You just they're the sort of pink that like a child would be like pink. Are they foggy? No, no, no, they're not I um, I do I never saw these flats before so now I want to see what other colors they come in before I like commit To this pair but like they're the sort of like I would once I find my pair and make sure that they're the right size Like I'm gonna wear them every day. So they really slayed but I might just want to tinker with it What is the like rule on returning a gift that like your baby picked out for you? I think he just would want me to be like happy and wear them. Of course, of course. I'm fine with that I'm just wondering is that like him to the return and like make and be like a whole experience. I'm gonna pair Oh Yeah, but no, it was like I know I knew that Zach got that color because like hearts was like mom's favorite color is pink It has to be that's really cute. So cute and they're really cute. She's too and I hadn't seen them yet. They're new this season prouder Okay style icon hearts hearts Um, but no, it's a great great weekend mother say isn't it a fun one? Oh my god, it's so special and like so special everything is just like special. I woke up and I'm like it's mother's day like Everything yeah, like everyone come give mommy your kisses and they're just like special mother's day kisses And I guess because it's like such a corporate holiday that like, you know Everyone in the streets is saying happy month if they see you with a stroller or whatever They're like happy mother's day. So it's like on your birthday people on the street don't know that it's your birthday You get even more like we went on this nature hike and like every person we pass and we're like happy mother's day Like I felt so Yeah, that's that's really like A lot. I mean, I saw a lot of people. I feel like you may be in an interface with as many people as I did No, that's strangers walking on a hike with you. Happy mother's day. That's like very kind. That's a lot of kindness I mean think about it. I have a stroller. Yeah It's a Sunday morning of mother's day and like, you know when you pass someone like who goes the opposite direction of you You give like a nod or you know Good job us. I guess you yeah, you say good and happy mother's day. Yeah, I guess so That's very kind It was uh really a banner. I had to wait a long time For my first mother's day. Yeah, because ruby was born like three days after last year's So I waited a whole he's already turning one the same week of mother's day Which is like literally so crazy So it felt like I kind of got two days two mother's days in one honestly. It was a big first one Absolutely. I may they all be that big honestly. No, honestly, they keep getting that like it it's It never stops being cool like and fun and sweet And like the kids get so into it and then they're writing cards and it was just really cute Everyone was just all hopped up Oh good. I didn't know if it was like only special because it was my first No, I think it gets more and more special as your kids get bigger and they can really do for you You know, right and they have more of an understanding of like why we're respecting and appreciating mama today especially Yeah, yeah, it just keeps getting better Better that's a juice we go. Oh, I had such a cozy weekend like mostly at home with maxi Maxi we needed to rub faces. You know, that's what I like to do That's what I like to do on the weekends is rub Skin to skin rub makeup free faces with maxi because during medical term medical term for skin to skin No, but we could do skin to skin during the week but not face to face when I'm wearing makeup No, I get it. I get it because like the second you put your makeup on it's like you can't be an involved mother I can't rub faces Yeah, I know and I where I have to wait till like after I take my makeup off So the afternoon but I want to rub faces in the morning I find it shocking that you are like comfortable with rubbing faces Even with your kids like you're so like don't touch my face Oh Like maybe you just reserve that sort of hostile energy for me for the rest of the world but for my children No, it's open. It's there's like Don't I feel like one of your surrogate children though like let's rub faces when I see you No, actually the idea. No, but even like just other individuals. I don't want to like yeah, don't touch my face My children are you great strangers my children? Like even me. I don't touch my own face Jax, we're seeing each other this weekend. I know dear media by night Dear meteor irl by night. We're having a we have to like sort of We haven't really we haven't chat. Are you staying with me? Yeah, you asked me yesterday. I gotta prep the guest room Um, we have to sort of prep like we're putting on a show Yeah, we have prepped and we're also improv. So there's only so much we could do It's an improv show. Yeah, it's an improv show at webster hall. Um, so yeah, I'm coming to big city Are you nervous bright lights big city? Yeah, I'm really nervous From the big city Mom's home from the big city small town girl in the big city Three bucks two bags one one jacks Three bucks. We'll make that tick tock when you get here. Okay sounds good two bags one me What else I guess we feel like dilly dally. There's a lot of news genfests are taking over the weekend So I actually feel bad for there's a lot of news Um, I think like some of the stories that you would think would be in the fast five We'll probably get pushed to tomorrow because there's a lot weirdly That's good. Yeah, it is good. 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Thank you torner You're welcome jor. Our first story Summerhouse star sierra miller accuses west wilson of sleeping with Real houses of new jersey alum gen festler. So this sort of took over the internet this weekend. Did you watch tv by the sea? No, I didn't watch tv by the sea. What does he have to do with it? gen fistler like he just gave his take i was It was honestly one of his best episodes of tv by the sea. I was cracking wait, but like but he doesn't have any particular Bested interest no, he likes to update his followers who like don't know what the saga is And like i guess venita made like a statement because she's like always inserting herself And he was like and then this venita like the way he told the story was hysterical. Okay. So first it started um On I guess like friday night when uh, someone posted on threads a statement that gen festler had made Oh, just can we pause and talk quickly about how like Threads has weirdly been like an active kj from summerhouse Just like went viral on threads for talking about and it's like why are people on threads? I didn't realize that things were I thought it was shut down like for real Yeah, I don't know why people aren't threads and I guess like when I see the screenshots of threads I it doesn't look like a tweet. I it kind of looks like a tumblr I don't I don't know what the bucket looks like process like where this is coming from I'm just like, oh, I guess someone's phone is formatted different from mine Yeah, but like a lot of summerhouse cast members are like on threads I wonder if they have like a partnership with instagram like it's so random no one's using threads Are they is there stuff going on on threads that I don't know about I don't know sometimes I get like serve stuff where it's like read the rest of this thread on threads And it's like oh, I'd like to read the rest of that but i'm not downloading but i'm not downloading threads, right? um So here's what happened someone posted on friend's former real housing in new jersey friend of genfessor was asked by page six About the summerhouse scandal tonight and said this about west west is the cutest sweetest golden uh golden retriever puppy dog He does not mean any harm. He didn't mean it. He's just trying to have a good time. He doesn't want to hurt anyone give him a break Then sierra replied saying lol because they slept together too Okay, let me tell you nuts I mean it's shocking especially because sierra like really hasn't been slinging mud like everybody else like she sort of Remained above she like she's just taking every opportunity and becoming a socialite and like she's gonna you know star out of this show She hasn't been like in the weeds like getting about So I feel like if she's gonna say something like she's not saying something that's not true like she's not Lowering herself to like start like lying. So here's what happens in so then the Someone wrote back like ma'am. I beg your pardon ain't that old lady married? Oh, he got a type and then sierra replied That's what I thought alongside a cartwheel emoji Then this sort of took off like wildfire and genfessor put out a statement Before genfessor put out a statement a video of west and genfessor. Yes Resurfaced I guess at the time nobody thought it was weird But they were just like bravo liberties like going out and being drunk together They were just like and here's what's the message is we need to normalize things being weird at the time You know what I mean agreed we need to normalize calling people off for being weird at the time like at what were genfessor and west Wilson doing like drunk getting pizza. They were probably at like a bravo event and then went out after and I'm sure the audience was like Living for thinking it's like Avengers like a collaboration of the cinematic universe and it's like no, that's weird And then this morning I had seen that there was also a podcast clip from like a very random podcast And I don't know who these people are at all, but like it was from like months ago Talking about how like this one of the hosts knows for sure that West had slept with the housewife and he won't say who it was but it was definitely east coast And then the other co-host goes well, it's definitely jersey because like your friend was with all the jersey girls So There is like circumstantial evidence that this is true I posted like something about someone overhearing in a bar in bozeman Oh wait, I'm sorry. I don't know this. Oh my god bozeman Montana And yeah that west was in Montana like this is old tea that now makes more sense. I guess Let me find it exactly One thing about to moi is like she's gonna go into the archive and find the hint that made no sense it says But last summer I was in a bar in bozeman Montana and literally overheard him talking to two other guys and a girl about hooking up With an old chick named Jenny who gave him the most unreal And I think it's it's blurred out. Yeah, it's a bj In Vegas, but was super fucked up when it happened then jimwah also posted a clip of Jesse in west on watch what happens live, but wait, I haven't seen this clip. I saw a different clip of Jen fessler and jackie gold schneider on watch what happens live when they were asked like who's your bravo hall pass and Jen Like jokingly responds and as Jen is saying evan gold schneider because jackie's right there. So it's funny. Oh, that's funny Jackie gold schneider says west for Jen fessler Oh, and then like one of um her old instagram captions resurfaced with like her and her husband being like You're the west wilson hall pass to my something like hold on. Let me find it No, I saw one that was like, you know, no matter how many affairs you have with guys or girls like i'm always yours So it's giving like open marriage Okay, hold on So Jen fessler I want to see what this clip of west and jesse was can I play it? Yeah, put it on there's so much cut like All these crumbs and then I want to read her statement because I also find it very compelling Okay, i'm gonna play the clip roll the tape. Yep gal Well, have you ever been with an older gal? Yeah, it's actually yeah One's kind of steep What? the Yeah, they just It was like one time thing. Okay. How old was she saying she was very old. How old was she was she over 50? Yeah, was she over 60 no not over 60 but like high five. Okay high fives high fives Was that was that a pleasurable thing for you? That was weird It was weird but that's like what makes that's like what is pleasurable. Okay Later than older. I actually saw that when it happened and never she's 57. Okay And I just want to say that's like so fucking disrespectful like I can't believe That like this was everyone's crush like You know what? Like this is a person who literally hates women. It's weird and why because she's 57. Jeff Fessler is not ugly She's not like a circus freak. She's like a very normal probably good-looking 57 year old woman It's like yeah, it was freaky and weird and that's why I liked it like you're disgusting. You're fucking freak I saw you new pictures. You're fucking freaky looking bitch. Yeah, and The instagram caption that's been resurfaced is an old picture from her wedding with her husband and the caption was happy 27 You could sleep with west or Amanda and I'd still say wait when when did she write that? Oh april 10th so post like skimand of all okay. That's and then like a funny caption agreed Yeah, that's what I meant like guys or girls and I still yeah, right? Okay, so we saw the same thing It's and that also sort of makes me feel like she didn't sleep with him or else like why would she be saying that now? Here is her statement about This rumor that obviously took the internet by sore. I'm everyone's but piecing together all these breadcrumbs She said in all seriousness and while I can't help but be a little flattered It is not nice nor is it okay to post something categorically untrue into famatory on social media regardless of whatever rumors or apparent evidence led you to that Conclusion that is the definition of libel if it were true I would have no recourse because it's a lie. This can get more complicated having said that. I hope we can rectify this It's enough now Okay, so it's giving like legal language. It's giving cease and desist, you know I'm so Confused because I think her statement and then like her social media activity Really is that of a person who's telling the truth? I agree But there is so much like we just said the clip the capture like there is so much It's not proof But it's very leading media Yeah, well when I remember seeing that west clip and I just assumed it was like some older woman when he was younger like You know like a random thing I never thought it was a housewife and like or Jen Certainly not like a married one. So that to me. Yeah, sure. He's been with an older woman That doesn't mean it's Jen Fessler. So that's not that compelling, right? Why I mean, maybe they've always had like a little cute thing where it's like a joke that she thinks he's cute That's why Jackie Goldschinder said it But I don't think that they slept together because I don't think she would put out a statement like this And I don't know why I'm going to take her out her word, but she just seems like I don't know. She's like older like a serious person like if she's saying it didn't happen Of course, of course, you know like dangling legal action I think she means it I agree except I don't See a world in which Sierra says this unless she knows it's 100% true like There are so many conflicting things like I just my gut is to believe Jen Fessler because I think what she's saying sounds like She's taking it well and like haha, but like seriously stop like it's a good approach But I can't Imagine why Sierra who has remained relatively uninvolved in all the drama And it's just sort of reaping the benefits from this scandal I can't imagine why the one time she like, you know, debases herself into talking about that She would like just say a like a false rumor. Maybe she thinks it's true Like maybe they did or maybe they did like maybe there was things that she saw that makes her think that they slept together and So she just like threw it out there In in like a not serious manner I just want to say whether or not this is true I just want to reiterate that I think west wilson is like so disgusting Like even that clip which I hadn't seen until this moment like who talks about a person they slept with like that like Just he's seriously one of the most Misogynistic disgusting and I can't believe everybody like dies for him and like people are like yeah, I'd still smash like I would seriously rather sleep with Sleep with anyone But you know what I mean, you're not no one's asking you to sleep I know I'm just saying like girls women of the world like go out and sleep with like a fat nerd like seriously He'll be nice to I can't believe like this is everyone's king. Do you know what I mean? He's short He's not even conventionally attractive and he's so rude Yeah, but I also want to say if they if he was talking about jenn festler that was a couple years ago I would imagine she saw that And she still has nice things to say about him. So I feel like maybe it wasn't her Right, right, right, even though high 50s like literally 57. There's millions of high 50-year-old women Around west no, but I I just I don't know why that clip was from a while ago. I thought it was from like pre-famed Wait, what clip is pre-famed? He's not watching up in slide. It's an old like from his first season or second season He's still famous and he's probably still going to bravo con and by the way It's more likely that they had sex before he was like majorly famous Because you know I don't know. I just feel like it's more likely. I just want to say I want to go on record thinking. I do think it's true Oh, I want to go on record. I don't think it's true. That's classic me Like I just can't believe some people are capable of certain things That's why it's not that I'm like Yeah, I couldn't believe West mandibox. I could not believe a person could be so stupid Like I genuinely I have faith in humanity. That's why I didn't believe it And it's just like Amanda. That's your boyfriend. Like that's the craziest part. Like that's Amanda's boyfriend He was also spotted. Tm's he said he was spotted chopping it up What the fad of wedding in like New York City? Gen Z intern he was also went to a wedding this week and apparently his plus one was rescinded Which I also think is losery like wouldn't that be like his random home friend like that's your friend Like let him bring his girlfriend Agreed people don't know how to act like people don't know when to be mad and like How to like hold their friends accountable? You know what I mean? They just don't know how to act Everyone's just just such a follower like if west is your friend and you're inviting him to your wedding and like Everybody's getting a plus one and he had a plus one like let him bring a plus one. You don't know these people I agree But also like how would tm's you know that like the bride and groom rescinded his plus one, you know Maybe like Amanda just didn't want to go Yeah, well she should have gone Yeah, and they are like moving forward full steam ahead public relationship Like they just I think they they are taking The route of like the only way out is through and like you just have to so okay You go to the wedding, but maybe like she's not enough. Yeah, I also like I just can't I mean we've said this before but like there's no way they're having fun Like I think I think it was like fun like you know crushing on Amanda when she was like the most popular girl in the world And like how cool is that like every season I mean do you know that video that he posted of her like doing the macarena? No What I don't think so It was posted like now we know during their like whirlwind romance time But like at the time everybody was like oh, they're best friends. You don't know that macarena video. Hold on. I don't know the macarena video And west posted it on his instagram Amanda the tula dancing video I can't believe you don't know this video. She's like wearing a crop top. It's like started the whole thing. Hold on Um Is it still there? It definitely is. I don't know if he posts a lot. It's from like a few months ago Oh, also some breaking news What? Nothing major some uh, sierra joins love island usa as the after son co-host Oh, I thought you were so placing not the after son. All right Who was the co-host of after son last year mora? Oh, yeah, yeah Does anybody watch after son like those episodes? Those episodes are some of my least favorite I've never watched one and then like someone goes on after son and like says something that's supposed to be like relevant to the Conversation i'm like, but it happened on after son. So so I unfortunately physically can't watch it. That's sad As if like love island isn't enough content a week. It's literally daily six days a week an hour plus episodes And you're giving us after son like give us a day off, you know on the seventh day. Let us rest Let us rest I don't see the video, but it was like them in a bar and she's like doing the macarena. That's really cool She's so cool The macarena is really cool It's like wearing a crop top. It's like the most okay moving on what I was saying was it was definitely like fun being like in a Trist with Amanda like crushing on her when she was the most popular girl in the world Even last summer, you know, just like every room she walks into it's like she doesn't even have to try and everyone's like Amanda Yeah, no Prince and a bra and it's like a man to style I come on no and like she was in a Situation like she couldn't be his girlfriend. So it's like the bitch the sort of forbidden element of it makes it very sexy And now there's just like two Misery is too like uncool Unpopular So, you know, let's see if they want to stay together They have to they need to go to the Nicolandria school of dedication And they need to commit to the bit That should be on there They should have a picture of Nicolandria on their fridge on their front door in their wallets like that is Who you are emulating? Yeah, agree because the way they've committed to the fraudulent relationship Mm-hmm So you're believing that they slept together. That's where I'm Coming with that. I I'm getting swept up in like the in the internet. I am messy messy Yeah I'm that video was the most embarrassing part of this whole thing. I agree. It was a hard watch But like and it's like you have you literally have kids west sage It was hard to watch but if you watched it when it came out And you thought it was like all my faves look at my face over Yeah, cross over the year I didn't watch it when it came out and I would hope that if I had I'd say That feels weird. Does nobody think this is weird. Yeah. Yeah Our next story are you ready for our next story? Some really sweet news Olivia Coppo announced that she is pregnant and expecting baby number two with her husband Christian McCaffrey So Olivia Coppo celebrated her 34th birthday and then she just sort of dropped on us That baby number two is coming soon and she posted a bunch of photos of her been pregnant And now it's just like when how soon? Yeah, like it's not your typical announcement He doesn't feel like you know end of first trimester. It feels right imminent I'm just guessing like she's giving like 20 to 24 weeks Yeah But it's coming to guess but like if 2020 but then you want to take coming soon You'd say like coming this summer or coming this fall Yeah, she likes to keep everyone on our toes. It's annoying. I just want you know, like that really got me on my toes And I wasn't expecting it. I know but she's not like nine months pregnant You can tell like just physically unless she's like one of those girls, you know, I know I'm just saying like it was giving that thing It's it's leaving space for that Well, not to make everything about myself But like Olivia Coppo and Lauren Elena like are my sisters in pregnancy And so like the fact that Olivia Coppo is like moving forward with her next pregnancy Like the pressure is on like not to make everything about me, but I saw this and I was like I was kind of devastated I was like, oh my god. Yeah. What does this mean? What does this mean for attorney? Yeah, yeah to give you a shout to your sister Of course I did. I'm so happy for her I fucking love her like and then I What was went to her instagram to stalk and she has like three pinned posts versus her engagement versus second is a wedding And then the third is the pregnancy and I was looking through her wedding pictures Like I forget remember all that drama about her wedding dress and like christian mccaffrey like literally leaving hate comments on the On the commenters like I fucking love them. I love and then I look at the dress and it is so objectively beautiful I can't believe and I see some girls wearing I'm sorry the ugliest fucking like Danielle Franco wedding dresses that are so trendy and like Miss me with that. This is the dress that sent the internet into a tailspin. It couldn't be more traditionally beautiful She's so cute You see it. Yeah, everything. It's long sleeves satin shoulder pads like The root of all evil. That's her um, that's her announcement post and like beautiful pictures The root of all evil is jealousy like that's what we need to be reminding ourselves of constantly by the way So when we were talking about this how like why can't you be jealous positive? Why do you have to be like a jealous ugly negative bunch? I think negative jealousy is envy envy. Yes the root of all evil because like let me be clear I am positive jealous of Olivia. Yes. I'm positive jealous of so many things I am positive jealous of fucking everyone sometimes I do teeter on like on unenviable. I'm not gonna lie No, don't catch me being envious. I'm a positive jealous person Like positive jealousy is the energy we're bringing into the future Like yes, it's a yes. Yeah Oh, also what was like so um cute about Olivia is earlier this week she commented on our instagram reel About having like no ambition since motherhood. Oh, I forgot to tell you some major news. Oh, okay You got it. I got what ambition back No I but I had enough ambition over the weekend to make a tiktok using my real activities Which I used and really enjoyed and I made a tiktok just like doing my skincare in silence And then the sound on top of it was our Clip of you saying like you you had a field day with real activities when I saw the same and alex Girl commented and reposted it and her comment was oh brb gotta use the sound We're gonna go by early again because she said yeah, she's gonna use the sound. I haven't seen yet, but she's gonna say she's gonna use that Yeah, so she reposted I know you guys probably saw me over the weekend on alex girls tiktok. Did you see oh my gosh? Wait, let me go on my iPad and check it out Oh, no, I don't even have a tiktok to upload it and then I don't know what's my luck But I do want to see when I see you this weekend. You can scroll on my phone like a top or send us to zack Okay, yeah, I'll send us um that's pretty cool Yeah, big big moment for us. I've been loving my balm. I still didn't buy new makeup wipes I've been using my balm. You know when I use the balm over the weekend. It was it was parjee It was bomb It's hard though because like I like using a makeup wipe It doesn't get my hair wet and if like if I I'm using a balm Then like my hair gets wet in the shower No at the sink. I couldn't use a balm at the sink. I couldn't it's like oh my god the counter It's like a war my shirt my elbows It's true. I use a balm in the shower Boom the balm did you buy your balm at stomp? Call back. No, I brought it at reallectivice.org That'll work reallectivice's website should be a dot org because they're a non-for-profit with their repost of me It's true Um, okay next story. I feel like oh my oh, yeah, no, we're okay next story number three savanna guthrie is officially Moving in a new career move. She's the host of the new wordle game show Okay, that's not where I thought you were going with like savanna guthrie. I thought maybe there was an update on her No, no, she was back at work and you know things nothing's really come out She a couple days. She like kind of like left set. I saw she left in the middle of the show. She walked off sad She's taking on new projects as the host of the new wordle game show I was every now and then I remember wordle and I'm like, let me do that shit um, she Made the announcement alongside jimmy fowlin who's the project's executive producer I feel like we talked about this so long ago. They took way too long Wordle still has like a big following but like the virality. I remember some the new york times bought it instantly They were turning it into a game show really fast and then it never came out And I feel like they sort of like missed the boat. Yeah, um It will start filming this summer. So if you are like a wordle expert you should go On i'm actually pretty good at wordle really Yeah, I haven't played since the minute I gave birth to harry. I never played again Wow Yeah, that's when we were playing Feb 2022 I love um What word do you start with like when you but I know you don't do it anymore But every now and then I always start with the same word. I forget I had a good first word I always start with great Oh, that's good two vowels g and r r and t excuse me are like classics Someone will remember what I used to start with because we like used to talk about shit like that Wordle like that. There was a time for that. I don't know. Um, I actually think it's a good game for a game show And they make game shows out of the dumbest shit these days. Yeah, and there's like who remembers the wall There's plenty of space for game shows, you know, I mean like they seem to be like low cost and Everybody loves um and I feel like they have a hard time like becoming popular. There's so many game shows that like come and go I love game shows. It's like one of my favorite genres of television. I'm actively subscribed to the game show network gsn Um, and they got the most random shit over there. They make jizzin. They make a game show out of everything So I would like for game shows to become popular again Yeah, well, you'd have to go on family feud watching them. You'd have to start watching them I do did you not hear me just say I have an active subscription to gsn But what do you watch other than like jeopardy? Oh, okay jeopardy is not even on gsn while showing how little you know, yeah, I watch What game shows do you watch other than jeopardy? family feud Okay Celebrity family feud. Okay, which we absolutely need to go on. Um What else do I watch? There's a lot of like generic game shows on gsn like they don't have names, but like it's like It's hosted by the guy who does the pitch perfect. Um The mc with elizabeth banks, you know that other guy Yeah, he recorded he literally is a host of 10,000 game shows on game show people magazine has a game show Like with their crossword, which I'm pretty good at Feel like it's like dad you think it's dan. No, I think it's steve. I think it's time. Let's look it up pitch Oh, Steve is good. Or like andy. I don't know. Uh, I'm nervous. No, I'm gonna stick with steve. Okay stick with steve Where is he? John No, no, no, I think steve was a really good guess up, okay, john John michael higgins Yes, that's his name. Yes, that feels right. He's a john Well, he's also like has my dream job where he hosts all these like random generic shows on the game show network You should shadow him for a day That's my dream to do voiceover work and hosting a game show not to shadow. It's not my dream To seal his job to shadow john michael higgins for a day is your dream No, actually if you can believe it John michael higgins better sleep with one other one fucking eye open to him Cold email him and ask if you can chat. I'm gonna I don't want to like I don't want to write email and I don't want to shout out. Did you ever shadow someone? Oh, uh I think you're gonna say did I ever write anyone an email? I'm like, yeah Um, did I ever I don't think so. I've never shadowed someone. I can't imagine anything more boring. Did you I once did Okay, now you have to tell us who what when where why how I don't want to share too much, but it was like a really um Dreadful juice What part of it was like, you know, it's just like what are you doing? Like and you're just shadowing and the person you're shadowing like does not want you there And it's not like they're like the president like they're just like someone with like an entry-level job that like you might want one day and like Right, I think they should cancel that program Jackie. I need to know who you shadow I'll tell you after you don't know you don't even like there's nothing to so why are you being like weird about it Just because I haven't thought about it in so long But it was just so long We're actually we're still inside that day This is a dream you have because like the person did me a solid by letting me shadow them and so no No, I knew I'd say the person but like what was the context what if they heard this? They probably felt the same way like that was so true Yeah, yeah, I don't think that they knew what to do. What was the context were you in college? I think I was in college and like you can like get set up with an alum Who's like working in a field that you would be interested in you can shadow and what was the field that you were interested in like media media? Yeah Oh, I don't know this story. Who did you shadow? You don't know them What company like what job did that person have? Okay? They worked at I'm not telling you because I really would never want them to hear this I know and know that I had a negative experience I think they just assumed you had a negative experience like it's universal it's ubiquitous like yeah shadowing is not a positive That's the company she worked for which actually like it was pretty good. That's where I should be shadowing Oh, wow. Yeah, who was it? No one knowing you know, she was just like actually one of our competitors. Yeah in the media space Honestly, I was I write on track for my life. I was you know, I knew where I was headed Jackie, I'm texting you I found the video of a man of petroleum dancing like if you want Oh good. Yeah. No, I think to close the loop on that and to stop talking about my day of shadowing I know anything to change the subject even though I will push more after the episode right. Yeah, and oh, oh my god You've never seen that video. No Okay, so he had posted this he posted this no no one had thought a thing about them before the rumors like but this was when they were clearly like falling in love Wait, that's really crazy. And was there a caption? Yeah, there was I would post it on um Tiktok, that's why I couldn't find it Yeah, this is what I mean like Before it's important to note that the song she's dancing to is not the Macarena drama Yeah, before west mandal like she just could do the least and it was like like she's wearing Yes, everyone was like this video and ratty t-shirt and like marking the Macarena and she's the coolest girl in the world You know to a song that's not the Macarena and now it's like that, you know, she's and I think his caption was like Coolest girl ever like that was the caption like some of it. It's just so guys. They're perfect for each other unfortunately It's true. It's just unfortunate that things played out the way that they did because I think they should be together To bring it back to your shadowing, which I know you were trying to move away from And I just think the thing about the Macarena It's a very complex dance. It's obviously culturally insensitive of her to be doing it 1 000 percent Yeah I haven't done the Macarena forever. It's actually a good dance. It is One Maca two Maca three Macarena They ate with that Okay, are you ready for our next story? What number four? No, oh my goodness. I don't think that you are Is it our fourth story that's brought to you by home chef? Yes, church chef. Who knows the feeling 6 p.m. You're starving. You're panicking feeling hangry and somehow there's nothing in your fridge Well, home chef is home chef is the only reason we now have meals that are actually balanced and delicious Plus you're saving money by not always grabbing takeout. 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I saw her big mother's day post. I saw mackayla I don't really know what's going on And I like kind of stopped caring um Yeah, because also as far as I know like taylor frankie paul's not even filming Well, I think she might be filming based on what she said, but basically, okay. Oh my gosh. Okay. It's on You say sorry It's like on a real like that. So I live with girls. You forget you forget, but you never let it go So mackayla posted this If I was knowingly giving myself rashes, I wouldn't be expecting sympathy from anyone online or privately Imagine someone told me hey, we know for 100 percent certainty that if you stopped using this cream your rashes would go away Then imagine I continued using that cream while still asking people for sympathy and help Okay, I just want to say this is a weird analogy I know what she's saying because she suffers from like this really terrible chronic illness that she doesn't know why she gets these Insane flare ups. So she's trying to like relate it to her story It's just giving like silly I just need to read a little bit of this so that like when I read taylor's response like it's just in context She said at some points my friends would probably say we feel sorry for you But stop using the cream so you couldn't heal and if I continue to use it over and over again for years knowing the outcome Every single time was the same It'll eventually get to a point where the people who genuinely care about me can no longer enable me By continuing to give sympathy and support behavior that is clearly keeping me stuck in an unhealthy cycle that she said um So basically dakota is the cream, right? Dakota is the cream. Yes, and she continues to like, you know engage in this unhealthy cycle and know What's bad for her and go back to it and go back to it and go back to it and so she's comparing it to Her ashes and she was also just explaining why she it's a very long I didn't even read the whole statement because it's like a lot of words and and at a certain point like I do hit But I am actively staying abreast, but I I have my limits. You're right. No, there is salamah fatigue and So yeah, I got the gist. She's saying she's not supporting taylor because like taylor's doing this to herself and how and you know She's disgusted by what she's seeing blah blah blah. So then taylor posted on instagram yesterday It was also unfortunate because she like put it in her mother's day post, which I just thought was like so unnecessary agreed I it also doesn't help her beat the allegations that she's like always putting the drama and everything like Before her responsibilities as a mother. So like your mother's day post Is about macaela like yeah, she said um Wait shit. I need to find exactly the The um thing that she said in response to Macaela another one that I didn't read in full, but the longest caption ever but got the gist um I can't deal I can't deal trying to find all these fucking statements. Just go to instagram. I know but the part that i'm looking for isn't here Okay, whatever. This is what she said It's mother's day. So i'll say whatever I want as if it's not already the worst time I still have friends kicking me while i'm down and calling it setting a boundary and then blames me for being upset and responding That's called shaming and attack. Why I had a moment to breathe and she knew that not once have I called myself a victim But i'm a human I breaking points What a snake friend did to me in public eye after everything she just witnessed the lack of empathy and the bruises yet She's bringing up picking sides. Yes, usually you do for friends. You know go through that I don't know and then she said something about like comparing my situation to rashes and cream And then did you see the final photo in her carousel? No one second on my way. Yeah the Oh the the tears Yeah, yeah, I hadn't noticed that it's like a selfie with her son She's sitting in the front seat her son is like poking out from the back seat also not wearing a shirt Stop posing pictures of your kids without their clothes on that's child pornography And she has like mascara running down her face, but she has like a smile on for her kid and it's just like I hate that Yeah, that's so performative to me. It's performative. Also. It's like I don't like that message like hold it in Hold it in around your children. I Keep it together Cry on your own time. So to be clear. I like do have like my take on the situation It's like a little macaela matthews coded. It's like yeah at what point are we going to just start like having agency over Our own lives and making you know taking personal accountability and like being responsible and making good decisions But like yeah, it is giving like a little not empathetic to the fact like she's in this terrible situation But it's like it's both. Yeah, I didn't love the cream analogy. Well, of course. It just sounded stupid too It didn't it didn't obviously not this exact same like no because like you're not like addicted to a cream Yeah, and it's not like you think the cream is going to cure this one thing But it's also causing something else. She's not just like using a cream. That's all bad Oh, and you don't have a child with the cream like All right, we're gonna get another macaela matthews hate comment. Oh for sure. That's okay first jayson now the cream I've been hardened Yes, true No, and I feel like it would have been a better analogy if it's like there's something about the cream that you love But it's also hurting you no, that's also like addictive like is you're addicted to the cream. Yeah, maybe cream has like crack in it Like drugs like you're addicted to drugs and like if you're friends, you're drug addict Maybe okay. Yeah, maybe it's like if she was smoking pot. Here's a better analogy and the pot was giving her rashes But the pot was also like making helping her anxiety. That's what I mean. Yeah, right. It's not just the cream She's so stupid she also loves the cream and is it Right, right the cream The cream The cream can sometimes be funny The cream is also a gas we said the cream Is an inanimate object the cream like is sometimes handsome Right creams don't have feelings, you know, no, but like creams can't talk sometimes creams can't sometimes the cream has been there for her You know when no one else was no actually it hasn't like because it's a cream She's just like not sharing any remotely redeeming qualities about the cream that like Attracted right that's because it's a cream attracted Taylor to Dakota in the first place Like I said, I've gotten off this roller coaster. I can't with Jesse's like voicemail. Everyone's flip flopping all over the place Like I seriously can't with this group of individuals. They're so moronic. Yeah, I do like love this show So I I'm trying to stay abreast like to a degree that's healthy and like, you know I can't read every single Instagram comment and I'm not even on tiktok I don't even know the half of it And also like for the show like here's what's going on But I have my limits for sure and I'm not taking a side and either one of these things like I Understand like I imagine if I were mackayla Yes, I would not want to film with Taylor. I would not want to be associated with Taylor I probably would have probably felt that way for a lot of years and always would have been like punished for Having the team player the way that Whitney was when she was like, you know Pure man's aren't gonna work with us if they think we're all slinging bar stools. Like yeah, because they all knew that That's what she did so from like a Human perspective I'm I get mackayla from like the other side of it where it's like I don't know them and It does feel like Taylor's going through like seriously the worst a person can go through like I don't feel the need to add on to it um, I don't know if she is gonna like I just don't know so Oh, yeah, that's all Our fifth and final story Jake Shane is getting slammed for asking KC Musgraves to explain a lyric from one of her songs slow burn I just know that like there is a writer at Variety who like went to camp or something with Jake Shane and just hates Jake Shane because this is not the second time There's been like manufactured outrage against Jake Shane. So this is coming from variety. It was a variety article There was like maybe there was like a clip going around. It was funny I like everybody knows what Jake Shane meant like he asked KC Musgraves in slow burn. There's a lyric that's um in uh in beijing they're headed out to work and in Tennessee the sun is going down basically saying how like time is different And he was like, what did you mean by that? And a lot of people like people were passing around the clip and it was like Obviously, he knows that like there's things called time zones, but I think he meant sort in the context of the song What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Like yeah, it's a good question Actually, it's the most random lyric. No and also like it comes it's born of like actually his deep obsession with the song He said that him and and manny his friends who he works with debated every single day I think he's like very into the song so burn. It's like a really great message born in hurry always late Jackie there was no no one No one no one was talking about this and if it got passed around as a clip it was because like it was funny But like it wasn't it wasn't there varieties like and this is why I'm you feel really need journalists And it's like no no one was saying no one was saying no one was saying that reminds me that Jake shane clip with Ed Sheeran When you're like, so it worked like they used to before That was what my grandma felt Like it's just like funny and it's also like a style of journalism now where it's like Almost ironic dry. Yeah. Um And it's funny like a variety wrote a whole article about it like they did the last time with the vanity fair red carpet Like making these tiny non things into things and I was glad to see people like not getting swept up And at the comments on twitter at least we're like literally We that's not what he said and I actually think it's a good question You know when I think sometimes like when people get flack for like journalism whatever It's like born of like not knowing anything about who they're talking to or like the they're not looking researching or whatever But like he's actually too researched on the song because he's looking into things that aren't there, you know That's a good question honestly. Um Especially if it's like sometimes you wonder about like someone's lyrics or whatever and you're like if I ever met them I would want to ask them about that. Absolutely. And I feel like that's what he shows and it's fun to watch. That's fun We're having fun Yeah, somebody there really doesn't like him I get the sense now two times in a row because the first one felt mean spirited But the first time like there was a little bit of backlash on twitter about like his performance on the red carpet I thought it was fucking hysterical, but people are such wet blankets. So okay fine. I was like, but now I'm like it's feeling intentional Yeah Yeah, but someone there like doesn't like him That's so crazy because everybody loves him There's nothing not to like the least offensive It's so true Brands safe. Do you see tanimojo's launching a podcast called brand safe? I did after canceled. That's kind of funny Yeah, that is she just keeps saying like her thing is like she's entering her brand safe era because she's like sober She doesn't do only fans anymore and she has brown hair No, but that's funny that like her podcast was canceled and now it's brand safe I just feel like nobody really wants a brand safe podcast to be honest Like that's the whole thing about podcasts is that like they're this renegade media if you want a brand safe show Like put it on cable. There's a ton of like brand safe garbage. Oh speaking of brand safe the roast of kevin heart was last night I didn't watch it. I didn't know that was happening. I felt like there was no commercial or anything Today I've seen like so many stories and clips. So I figure we'll like try and watch it tonight We could talk about it tomorrow. Oh, I don't want to watch it like it seriously looks I think roasts And you know, Joan reverse her documentary She the time that they covered her was the time that she did a comedy central roast and she was like they are the most disgusting awful well paid I don't understand why a human being would do it and some people I can understand more than others But I don't understand why kevin heart would do a roast When same with tom brady people who don't need the money who don't need the attention you don't need the attention Joan in her documentary. She's like i'm doing this for the money like I need the money. Yeah And it was awful every joke, you know my her face her face her vagina It's so misogynistic. I cannot and like they all get uh no-gos like tom brady was like, you know No one's allowed to talk about my family these comedians don't give a fuck kevin hearts was that I guess I didn't know this He cheated on his pregnant wife I'm not oh did I like it was many years ago and that was like the thing he told everyone not to talk about Of course they did like who the fuck would voluntarily not only get up there To get roasted but be one of the roasters because if you're a roaster you also get roasted I tell them saying the most disgusting things about chelsea handler like who the fuck seriously would do that I have no idea I can understand my people do the roast especially if they're comedians And everyone needs a little buzz and it can be like really great for someone If they have a good roast and especially you could always use a little attention when you're like a smaller comedian I do but kevin heart is like literally The biggest movie star in the world. Yeah, I think niki glazer like made her bones Like a big part of her career was being the roast Martha's stew like some people use it as like pr like jeff uh jeff justin justin timberlake Justin timberlake should do a roast He's the type of person who needs it because justin beaver did it when he was like kind of like this bad boy And it was a huge part of his rehabilitation that justin beaver. We know today is a byproduct of that roast. Yeah Yeah, but I don't yeah well loved a listers don't need to be doing this Kevin heart seriously is like the most beloved comedian Especially if you like have something that everyone's going to joke about that you don't like the affair on your pregnant You shouldn't do a roast because that's really all we're going to talk about Of course and you shouldn't give a list of things not to talk about because that's like there are certain comedians who that's all they'll talk about No, and it's like why shouldn't they talk about that? Like you know what I mean? It's something that you did and we're talking about you Otherwise don't do the roast Yeah, like when alex baldwin did it like That was a good move, you know He is this like villain like character and there's so much and he just like sort of leaned in and I do think overall It had a positive effect on his cue score. Yeah, but if you're if you have a positive cue score There's only one place for it to go after a roast Down yeah, and Kevin heart has the best cue score. Oh my god. He's like america sweetheart. Everyone loves him And yeah, it was a list dwayne the rock Johnson. Like seriously. I think it's so gross Yeah, like uh, who the fuck would want to participate in that? Well, maybe I won't watch I just said that so that like no, I'm like I but I saw some shangillus I just happened to really like shangillus like I thought his jokes were funny. Look even chelsea handlers Yeah, the Zionist one and it loved but the funny thing is that chelsea handlers not a Zionist Yeah, and she got him back pretty good too Yes, she did And it's like did she write that on the fly because did she know he was gonna say that it was giving improv? Maybe it was like a couple of hours earlier and she had time to sort of like think about something Yeah, she got him pretty good. Yeah, she threw that snl slur thing right in his fucking face That's what I mean people have scale to to a sweatshirt comedians everybody has punch Who would willingly show up and sign up for that? I don't know It could never never never never never are people who have their birthday party and they're like roast me Yeah, diva dobro did that like and he filmed it but even like regular people. Yeah Oh brian did it. Yeah brian kelly. It was actually very funny. Well Yeah, I feel like if you're a person who is like deeply admired and respected by your friends and family like They couldn't come up with such terrible things to say about you a little bit feared. You've got to be feared Yes Yes, yeah, like bryans was actually really like funny and like yeah, he is like crazy stories But like for the most part it was pretty nice. Yeah, watch what you say It's roast me you still want you still want those free trips you want those points you want those tips? Sure. Yeah, roast me Well, the place looks great. I mean it genuinely always does our studios have never looked more beautiful. 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