#617 - Aziz Ansari

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And I'm looking forward to getting to meet him really. We never even known each other. So we're going to do that now. Today's guest is Mr. Ozzie's Ansari. I love this. Sweet man. I'm going to get a hit of this. What do you drink, man? Do you have a beverage of choice kind of? Just espresso and water. Really? Not together, but I drink espresso a lot. And then water. And then if I'm drinking wine or whatever, a martini or whatever. Oh, a martini, huh? Check, check. You good? Do Indian people react well to martinis? Is your family Indian by nature? Yeah, by nature they are Indian. Yeah, my family's from India. I was born in South Carolina. Wait, are we going now or no? Yeah, we can be. Yeah, whatever you want. Where are you from? You're from Louisiana. I'm from Louisiana, yeah. Because whatever I hear someone else from with a Southern accent, it's almost like when I see someone that's Indian. I'm a little like, oh, I need to... But we've never really met, I don't think properly. You were at Chris Rock's birthday party. I saw you there, but that was a crazy thing. I didn't really get to say hi, but do you have that when you hear someone with a Southern accent? Because to me, there's so few people. I don't have one, but I'm from South Carolina. I lost my accent. It comes out when I start talking to other people that have it. Even the guy that picked me up at the airport, he was from Atlanta and I started and I like, it started seeping in. Yeah. But yours has stayed strong. Mine is gone, but I remember when I met Danny McBride. There's so few people that have Southern accents that are in our kind of acting Hollywood. It's kind of true, huh? Strange. I think right before our generation, it was more prevalent. Before, well, there was the whole like blue collar. Right, those guys. Those guys, they had their run. They all had Southern accents. Larry the Cable Guy, definitely Southern accent. Yeah, he's going back on tour I just saw. Yeah, I remember when I was a kid, I grew up in a small town in South Carolina called Bennett'sville. There's like 8,000 people there. No one ever toured there or anything. And I remember some kids went and saw Jeff Foxworthy and he came to Florence, South Carolina, which is like 45 minutes. And we saw Jeff Foxworthy. That was the first time I'd ever heard of someone going to a live comedy show. Oh, wow. By the way, I'm shivering a little bit because so I came from, I was in Chicago and I had to get up at like five in the morning and you had a cold plunge and your producer was like, if you want to jump in the cold plunge. And I was like, are you, are you kidding? Are you serious? Cause I'm a little tired and I didn't really sleep yesterday and I did it, but like I'm a little cold. I'm a little cold. I'm shivering a little bit. It'll rattle you. Yeah, no, I'm glad you got in, dude. Yeah, I got in. I was in there earlier this morning. I get in now cause I don't want to. So I'm like, let me go do something that I don't want to do to start my day. And I think it adjusts my attitude, which I need a lot. And dude, I just went to, I just went to university of South Carolina. We had, we met a chauffeur over there. His girlfriend had thrown feta chainie like a hot thing of boiling feta chainie on him. And yeah. And he had to be like, dude, it's crazy. That story took a dark turn really fast. That's the last thing I expected to happen in this guy in the story is, is boiling feta chainie thrown on him. Bro, a hundred percent. And, but he was with the water, not. Yeah. Okay. Cause cause if it was just a feta chainie, that's not too bad. Yeah. The water in the mix too though. That's, that's, that's a crime. Yeah. Oh, it was a crime. And his, again, his neck was like dripping off of him and stuff. He went through a lot. But anyway, met him. He's a chauffeur over there. Uh, Stan, he's out of the, he's out of the Bronx originally, but we just had him come in. He was just like kind of a unique character. So, um, but. Hey, Trevor, will you cut the AC off just in case? I don't want to fucking lose a Z. Am I looking crazy? No, you seem fine. Okay. I didn't know if I was just sitting there. But no, I know what you mean. Sometimes if you get that in, in that ACs on, it's kind of a lot. Um, dude, is it, is this true? Uh, and thanks so much for coming in today, man. Oh man, I really appreciate it. And you know, I, I'm not really super familiar with a lot of podcasts. And I haven't done a big press tour in like a long time. Cause you know, the last time I had something come out was during COVID. So that was weird. You didn't really do the normal stuff. And then, um, I've been working on these films for a bit. And, and, um, so before I was like, they were like, Oh, do all these podcasts. I was like, well, I'm going to listen to episodes and I listened to a couple of years. I listened to the Bernie Sanders one. Oh yeah. Which I really liked. And, and to me really connected with my film because the stuff you guys were talking about, um, you're talking about something that I hadn't heard where the number one cause of bank fraud. Cause of bankruptcy is, is medical bills. Yeah. And in, in my character in the film, you're never really given a clear explanation of what happened in the sky. The guys, you know, he's lost his job. He's sleeping in his car, but. Oh, he's good fortune. You mean? Yeah. But, but it made me think of that, what your conversation with Bernie Sanders. And I was like, Oh man, this is really, um, on the, in the same kind of realm. And then, um, and I loved your episode with Arnold Schwarzenegger. I'm always fascinated by Arnold. Really? Yeah. I think he's so, I think he's so smart and, and, um, yeah, I don't know why I, I think you realize like the more you're in this business, especially the, in the kind of movie acting world to like be an actor that's kind of had a few hits. Like a lot of things have to come together and it's not an accident. You know what I mean? When these guys have this run of hits, like they've got to be really sharp. Yeah. Yeah. It was pretty fascinating. And then, when he came into his office and there's like the, his like Conan thing is in there and like the sword, he's like, Wait, did you meet that little donkey? He has, I don't know if the donkey was there. There was some hair on his house. This was his office. Oh no. This was his office. Yeah. There was some hair on the floor, but I don't know what it was from. I don't think, um, oh my God. Yeah. There's a donkey. Oh, cause I think he's very Dutch like that or something. Oh, he's very, Oh my God. Yeah. Those are mini donkeys. They look mixed too. I met a small donkey in Nashville once. Oh. First off, I love Nashville. I, I, I go to Zany's a lot when I'm like working on sets. Yeah. Oh, I think I remember that's what the last thing I remember. I remember hearing you came to Zany's and did like six or seven nights or something over there. Yeah. And one time, one of my favorite shows, the power went out and I had to do the show like the power went out and we're like, what do we do? And the staff there was amazing. They like immediately brought candles out and I was like yelling my set. And then some guy like brought like a speaker and a microphone. It was incredible. Oh dude, I think, didn't they, I think it was an article or something about that. I even remember, I remember seeing a picture about that or at least just hearing about it like in local lore, you know. Um, one thing about Nashville is dude, it's a very small city. Like it's small. It's like people, it's something happened. You hear about it. It's not like, it just feels like a huge town. Like how long you lived here? A really big town. I lived here for, I think almost four years. Where were you before? The pan, I was in LA. Oh, okay. Yeah. And I moved directly from there because during the pandemic, I remember seeing like Kid Rock's bar, you know, and people are having a blast there. And meanwhile, like my landlord is like making us wear a hazmat suit so we get our fucking mail and chicken's everybody's all paranoid and shit out there. And I was like, fuck this shit. I gotta fucking go, you know. I've always lived Nashville. I did a series for Netflix and we filmed an episode here and I always come here for standup. I did the Rhyman. I'd never done the Rhyman. I'd always done some other theater. I did the Rhyman on this tour that I, a few months ago. And that's, that's one of the best, best places I've ever performed. Yeah. Yeah, there's that thing. Yeah, that was it. Yes. Isn't that so crazy? Yeah. A Power Outage Force comedian as he's already finished his set in the dark Monday night. That was cool. That was like one of those cool, cool moments. That was fun. But when I was here for that trip to get back to the donkeys, my wife, she's Danish and she loves, she loves donkeys. And there was some fare here and they had miniature donkeys. Oh, beautiful. And we sought them out and we said, what's up to them? One of them was named was, his name was Roger and he was born October, October 4th. So Roger 10-4. Ooh. So we met Roger and there was another little donkey named Lily, but I, she was, she was a little big. I don't know if she was a micro donkey. Roger was straight up micro. Lily was a little big. I don't know if she was micro. At that size, I don't judge their weight, to be honest with them. You know what I'm saying? Because the body's, there's already a lot going on, you know? It's like, yeah, I think, I think that, I mean, look, I think they're beautiful. I remember I met the world's smallest horse one time. When was that and where? And this is, his name was Tom Thumb and I met him in Alameda, I believe. And how did that, how did that intro come about? People, people like, you got to go meet him and shit. And I remember I'd been in a bar. Alameda is where? California? California. Okay. So you were doing a show in Alameda and then like, you got to, you got to meet the smallest horse. No, we'd been out there for a, I was just, I think I'd heard about it. I think I'd been in conversations about like smaller animals, animalia generally. The world's, the one I met was Tom Thumb. And if you can also look up separately on perplexity here, if you can just look up the Ovan Tom Thumb, I did a post on it. It was pretty fascinating. What's perplexity? Perplexity is like a different AI. It does, for me, I like it because it's, it can help me like edit and pull clips out of things that you can put something in it and like, like what clips do you like in this? What do you suggest that sort of thing? Oh well. So it's kind of like, it's like a, it's like an AI, you know? It's far beyond my. What? I don't know any of this stuff. Dude, what are you talking about? Do people, how do your parents feel about that? That I don't know perplexity? That you don't know about the AIs? I mean, I know what it is. I don't really use that stuff much. I don't really use internet or phone or anything very much. I try to stay off. Yes. Oh, here we go. Right here. Let's take a video. Let's see. I am into this. A hero right there. How long are you going to be here today for? He'll be here all day? How small is he? Woah! And he's alive too? That will be dark. You don't know what people are doing, dude. But yeah, so just to let you know, I guess we have a lot of symbiosis there in our love for the small horses. Small, what are horses and donkeys? What's that? Ask the AI. What is that called? What are that that kind of animal horses donkeys the four-legged kind of they're similar there must be some group Yeah, what is that called the aqueous? Yeah, the aqueous the equine Equine but dude when you think that God took all the beauty of a huge horse and put it into like a baby snicker of a horse a little horse Yeah, there's not is there any other animals that have minis like because there's many horses. There's many donkeys What is it? There's many cows there are oh Wow, oh God that'd be a dark moment you go to a steak house. They're like just so you know these are all mini cows. Yeah, oh It's still that's too dark. I'd have a little You probably could only have a little There's not like a 40 ounce of mini cow steak. That's not that's that happen It's like it's like he's a one ounce like it's like when you go to a sushi restaurant They have that one little piece of wagyu This is from a mini cow. Oh my god, they're all furry Maybe oh, maybe I'm gonna finish this show and get addicted to the internet because this is this is pretty fun I had never knew about mini cows. I didn't know I would have just been wondering about equines equis Well, look dude, I think you could get your wife one of these. Let me see Miniature horses rarely exceed 34 inches in height miniature donkeys also max out at around 34 inches There's mini micro pigs. Oh wait, this is a whole list of everything. There's many of there's many horses donkeys Pig me goats. They don't call them micro goats. They prefer to be referred to as pig me goats Mini sheeps micro pigs micro pigs. I've heard of imagine a mini sheep though. Hmm You make a very small sweater Oh Dude we gotta get some of these animals But dude when I was a kid they only had big dogs and then the dogs started getting littler a lot of this I think is cross breeding and inbreeding, you know I grew up in a kind of an not an inbreeding district but I grew up in like certainly like the stray animal belt and the inbreeding belt kind of like They you can they run across some of the same planes in America Okay, and we would see a lot of you know, people start getting smaller over time in the area because you and that's when you knew like, okay People need to start walking farther or driving farther for sex, you know, well, you just knew the inbreeding was heating up You know, you know the kettle the kettle was getting a little warm, you know When somebody'd have a baby and they could just put it on like a key ring or whatever it was like Good to see you man, cuz we've never really gotten to talking it's good to laugh with somebody I you know, I I love meeting comedians that I haven't met before I I Was thinking this the other day like when I was on tour I was you know, I bring some of the same guys out with me and who do you take with you? Sorry to interject will still Vince He's in the movie isn't he will is in the movie and Ricky Vales They they they came out with me a lot early this year and then our tour manager, Beth who I love will especially Have you ever met will do you know will at all? I don't know him, but I recognized him immediately I know I know him, but I don't know him well the hardest I laugh in my life. Mm-hmm is after shows going to dinner with will because he's just The most ridiculous guy and he just he's so funny like just this stuff Like this is one of my favorite will anecdotes one time I told him I said I wanted to send him a playlist of some music and he's like I don't use Spotify And I was like what do you use you guys I use Amazon music Oh type shit and I was like why do you use Amazon music? He's like cuz I like to download the MP3s and burn them on the CDs. I was like this. This is this is such a unique dude Yeah, I mean it sounds illegal, but it also sounds like I respect it, you know But I but I love comedians comedians are my favorite people Well, I think in the end it's like you have to realize how rare it is that people do it and that That we do all have something in common. Yeah, and it used to feel like a lot again. It's like the southern accent It's like when I see another Indian person. There's something that pulls me towards them. Yeah, it makes me comfortable Yeah, I think well some of that's just tribes, you know, try there's a little bit of like whatever is built into us What a specific tribe to you know, cuz most people's You know most people's worst fear is public speaking and it's what we do for a living. Yeah, so there's something Deep inside that's a bond with all of us has to be oh, we're like Satan's mini donkeys of self-esteem. Yeah That's why we need so much approval with laughter. It's like if you pet me I'm a micro self-esteem people. Yeah, if you pet me enough, I'll grow into a regular sized horse. Yeah. Yeah We get enough laughs we play enough theaters or if you graduate to arenas then we become Bullsized people. This is enough. That's hilarious. It's almost like our Pinocchio story. Yeah, um Yeah, dude, I stayed up watching the movie last night. Good fortune. That's your it's a new movie. Yeah Dude the amount of turns that were that started to happen I'm about like I guess maybe 45 minutes in the amount of turns that started to happen in a plot Really, we're making it heat up. Oh, well, thank you. Yeah, cool dude and Keanu Reeves. He's like this like He almost reminds me of like a surfer dude that won best and show at Westminster type of vibe. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, there's a little bit of California kind of but he's very sweet like a little pup and his posture is so good It seems like he would win best in show like he seems like he has very good I never noticed his posture, but you didn't know but you know, I remember when we first started screening the movie As soon as he came up on screen, I could tell there was something like whoa this dude's a movie starts And it's not just that he's handsome. There's something this other You know, there's this other thing that he has and and he's so funny in the movie I mean he he just he just kills and and by the end of the movie when I've watched it with crowds Like he's just doing the smallest thing and just getting huge laughs and Yeah, but um you directed and wrote in your in it right you wrote it too. I wrote it dude That's awesome, bro produced acted everything too much. So you have control issues you think Yeah a little bit but but in a positive way as well, you know set the Rogans in the movie And he does his show the studio and we've talked about that about you know kind of doing every because he does everything on that and There's something that's kind of streamlined about it, you know to like oh I had this idea This is how I'm gonna write it and and you kind of have for me whenever I'm writing something I kind of have a you know an idea in my head of how I want it to sound and look and everything and directing is pretty much just Conveying that to a group of people to execute it Yeah, so if it's all coming from one person and if you're one of the people acting it does make things easier in a sense Yeah, man, that does make a lot of sense Yeah, and and you know you have other people like Seth and Keanu who you know they have iconic voices So when I'm writing I have their voice in the head and then when they're there they do it Like even funnier than you think they were gonna do it when you had in your head they add something or improvise and and You know the goal is really you have like the version in your head And then you have this whole crew and cast and and you kind of convey your vision and then they take that and then they give you Something else that's something from them and it becomes better than you thought How long was you guys to shoot for? Well, it was a little weird because we shot like one or two days and then the writer strike happened We have to stop for a few months. Yeah and then we came back and This sounds crazy when I'm saying it out loud So we came back after the writer strike, which was like, I don't know seven months or something. It was a while and Pregnant and stuff like was it different? Okay, no everyone was still the same but um, oh, thank God We we shot for like a couple of days and then Keanu broke his knee He broke his kneecap like on our like second or third day back. What was he doing? I mean, it sounds insane as I'm saying out loud because this guy's done all the Matrix movies all of John Wick movies never got hurt Yeah, we filmed a scene in a cold plunge and He was going back to his dressing room He was all wrapped up in a robe and everything and he like tripped on a rug and fell on his knee and broke his kneecap Yeah, they got pictures of him in the crutches here on on perplexity No, he broke his freaking kneecap and yeah guys right there. Could you hear it? No, no, it was in his in his dressing room So I I just heard like someone on the on the walkie's like, oh, I'm Keanu's down Oh, he went through it alone. Yeah, he fell down and then they were like he's hurt and then he came down He was ready to film right away. His knee was like bleeding right crazy and we're like, hey man Maybe you should go to a dot and he was like, no, no, no, what's you let he loves he loves shooting. He just wants to shoot but anyway We could film most of his stuff he had like a knee brace that we like edited out with vfx He didn't get that stupid one with the wheels on it. No, he didn't have the I mean to call it stupid man That's what some people gotta use I saw some drunk lady and her husband. They were going down Broadway in Nashville and uh, I know the thing you're talking about. It's like a kind of like a scoot this thing. Yeah It's like a mini scooter and my friend broke his achilles Tori's achilles heel and he had to use that for a while Yeah, it's like the x games of being crippled or whatever. Yeah, it's it's a little weird. Yeah, it seems a little silly He didn't have one of those he just had a big knee brace But we had these scenes where he had like most of the stuff we could kind of figure it out But there was a couple of scenes where we needed him to dance There's a whole thing where he starts dancing kumbia and we were like keanu. We can't shoot the kumbia stuff so We came back after his leg healed and shot a few more days But it was like a 30 day shoot. Oh, wow, it's fast. That's a lot of work Yeah, that's not too much, but it's not too little. Yeah Yeah, we just I just David Spade and I made a movie and I can't talk about it anymore on here because we've talked about it a lot But how many days? 23 days, that's pretty tight. I mean, I don't know the script or anything but 23 is you know, that's A lot of work, but over 30. Yeah, we probably had a few days off in between, you know But it was a lot of it was like the fires it happens. We had to move And then like one scene that just happens to be firing and you're like, okay Well, this has to be part of it because you've already set up for the day and whatever this space is going to be So like one day it's crazy winds winds like 45 miles an hour. Remember that I was in LA right right during the fires Yeah, so we're like before there was a crazy winds. I was like, what's happening? Okay, so we're like talking about kites We wrote that in the script like yeah, we should get some You wrote in afterwards. Yeah, just like yeah, maybe we'll get some kites after you know We like threw in a line. It's like just trying to make things make sense, you know Because you just have you're already set up everybody's already driven there the people are there There's a lady standing there with makeup, you know what I'm saying like people have washed their bodies and gotten in their vehicles And gotten over there people have put on deodorant people have put on clean panties and men's panties or whatever they're called under Men's underwear on their undergarments and they showed up and it's a lot of people and it's crazy because you know You write these random things and then all these people get to work to do it And it's like some silly joke about a pillowcase or whatever like oh which pillowcase do you want to use? Yeah, someone's dumb is that like all these people will drive to one place just so somebody can be like rick is a bitch You're like, okay. That's lunch. You're like that fucking took four hours God and ricky's not even a bitch anymore. He's had a surgery by the end of the day, you know what I'm saying? So everything's changed it blows my mind that you know because it's like stand up It you you do these things and you're just on a mic and there's people they're listening But when you write a joke for a movie, there's all these trucks everybody's showed up. It's it's It really makes you pause for a second. I don't know if you had this thing where you're like Oh man, this is a lot of hope. Oh, this is worth it for these people Oh, yeah, I remember the first day we got to do to set I was like holy shit I thought this had just been a bunch of emails, you know And it was like all the emails that come together in real life like there was trailers There was some guy got electrocuted like yeah But it was like everything, you know, you were like, oh people are acting or some guy practicing his things They're like firing an extra like all the shit was going on, you know, like some guys just like You know, I had bought the wrong peanut just all the shit's happening. You know, there's no coffee There was always no coffee when I got over there. It's fine But it was just like it's fascinating to see it happen. And it's one of those things that has to like It's so expensive to do that you have to get it done on that day It's like Whatever elements come if somebody breaks their leg if somebody goes missing you have to for an hour You have to like shoot around it just all these little things that kind of go on, you know I was telling someone people always ask me like what's the difference between doing stand-up and doing a film? to me doing stand-up it's like You're you're running around a track and you go, hey, I'm ready to go and then you you go to all these cities and you you run around the track and and you're done And a movie is like you have to go to these people and go. Hey, I want to climb this mountain Can you give me money to climb this mountain? And they're like, let me see your plan, which is like your script and they're like, hmm Well, we can give you this much. Oh, that's not really enough supplies And then they're like, well can Brad Pitt climb the mountain with you? Can you get you know these other famous can you know and yeah And then if you're lucky enough to even get to start climbing the mountain then people just start throwing boulders at you Hey, here's the rider's strike. Hey, there's the fires in la. Oh wait. Kiana's broke his kneecap And it is a positive blood test. You're like, oh That's rough. It's it's all just You're just trying to avoid All these different disasters and if you're lucky you you you make it to the top But it's it's so much harder to either so much more to that's out of your control. Yeah, stand-up is so In your control. Yeah, there's something so pure and beautiful about stand-up. I like doing both but there is something so pure and beautiful about stand-up where it's just literally a person talking to the microphone it it's kind of such a pure and direct art form And filmmaking there's so many other things that are out of your control and it's a lot more complex But it's rewarding in its own way. I mean I I think about how you know, I'll I'm working on other scripts now and I'll I'll have some joke and it'll it'll be like, whoa, this will be Maybe years from now before I'll see this joke play In a theater and hear a crowd of people laugh And then a stand-up joke, you know You were I could think of something tonight and go to a comedy club and try it and hear get a laugh And that's so satisfying But there's also something crazy about like I remember I started writing good fortune like probably in the pandemic I started writing it on and off And there's jokes I wrote in and then years later. It's like I'm in a theater in Burbank and keanu Reeves is saying the joke and You know a crowd full of people goes crazy And they're both amazing but in different ways. Yeah That's so wild dude It's pretty much a fact that prize picks is the best place to win cash while watching sports And with football season fully underway There's no better time to join prize picks. 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It's just it's a lot It doesn't have to be and today you can join over 90 000 businesses that are using quo Get started free plus get 20 off your first six months at quo.com Thio, that's quo.com Slash theo and if you have existing numbers with another service quo will port them over at no extra charge Quo no missed calls. No missed customers Is there a movie that like you'll never get to make but you think it would be cool? Like it's so ridiculous. Have there ever any been something like that? Well, I mean Right now it's so hard to get any movie made. They all feel like oh man. I hope I can make this You know, I've got two movies that I uh two other scripts that I've written I had this movie with Bill Murray that I was doing that got shut down I want to finish that why what happened? Oh, well, uh Bill Murray Was part of this movie we did called being mortal being mortal is a book by this gentleman named atul gawande It's all about like end of life issues. It's about stuff you know, uh That people my age are dealing with with their parents, you know, so maybe not all the people might be older, but you know They're getting sick. You got to put them in retirement homes and you got to figure all this this stuff out Very, you know, very interesting book and it's about very highly recommend this Have you met atul gawande? Yeah. Yeah. I had to talk to a tool to get rights to the book and and when I decided to turn into script he He helped me and and um Is it cool? There is very cool very smart guy and um So I thought okay This is like The book is not a fiction book. It's nonfiction But I was like, oh man, if you turn this into a story There's things that are funny even though it's dark, you know, like there's things that are funny about like You know, you have to go like take your parents to like all or your mom or dad You have to take them to all these different retirement homes and like they you know all these people in his book They're always like I want to be in here. Everybody in here's old. It's like that's people's perspectives. It's kind of funny and uh And just like how out of depth you are talking to these doctors doctors talk to you like, you know, you know These super complicated things are like anyway, so what do you want to do if you do this? You know, he might be paralyzed, but if you do this, you know, you're like wait, what? Yeah, but if you do this he might be able to do a backflip and you're like, well, that's a that's a mixed bag It it's so you're you're just immediately out of your depth. But anyway I read the story and read the book and and you you notice these patterns like the parents are like no I'm fine. I'm fine. And then they like drive their car through the house or something and then you're like, oh We got to take you to home, man. Yeah, you know that kind of thing But that's really how it happens though for people It's really how it happens and I was like, well if you did a story about this and the guy was bill Murray That could be really funny and really poignant because he you know I think about him in like loss in translation or broken flowers and and he's one of these He's got this rare ability to be so funny But so grounded and touching and and sincere So I wrote the whole thing with him in mind and the there was no like oh I'll get another guy was like this movie only works in my head if it's bill Murray. I can't think of anybody else I wrote it and he's like Famously the hardest guy to get a hold up to be a you can't even get him. Yeah, I I knew him a little bit socially I had his number. I call him. He answers the phone I said, hey, I have a script that I wrote Uh, you know, I said hello whatever and we talked for a minute And I said I was calling because I wrote the script and and I think he'd be great and he's like, well, that's wonderful You know mail it to my house very old school is like printing out send it to my house. So I sent it to him He calls me like a couple of weeks later. He's like, yeah, I like this. Can you send me the book? I sent him the book. He was really into the book as well and um, we eventually set it up seth rogan plays the son kiki Palmer was playing seth's wife and um, we shot for like three weeks and then um something happened on set where uh Bill was inappropriate with uh, someone uh, that was working on the film. Oh, I remember something about yeah Yeah, um, was it real or was it fabricated who knows? Uh, I mean something really happened. Okay. So something occurred and people felt their ways about it, right? Yeah, I don't want to get into it too much because it's not my story to tell So something happened on set something and you had to shut the movie down. Yeah, he he had a mask on a covid mask and uh This is from what I understand he had a code mask on and he was trying to be funny and he was kissing this woman that he was friends with with the mask on trying to be funny, but this woman didn't like this and was was upset and um And eventually it turned into this whole thing and they shut the whole movie down. No Yeah There's the Wikipedia page, uh, but uh, yes, this is what bill said at the time I did something I thought was funny and it wasn't taking that way Bubba, the company movies here wanted to do the right thing so they wanted to check it all out Investigate as they stopped their production. Yeah the the the whole whole movie shut down. Um Dang and sorry I shared the 75 it wasn't 75 we shot like half of it But anyway, I can't remember what what how we started on this but that um, yeah I'd love to finish that at some point, you know if we can because you know it was it was uh, it was very special but Gosh, that must have been I'm gonna spend heartbreaking for everybody It was but it was one of those things that was so crazy. I don't think I ever fully processed it I mean you want to know some crazy. I remember the week it happened I was getting married that summer and my friends had Uh, they wanted to plan some sort of bachelor party for you not like uh, I I'm not like, hey, let's go to the strip club kind of guy They were like gonna we were gonna go to a restaurant go to the spa or something like that like a very silly kind of Like a mathathon What's the math? Is that a real thing or do you just make up that word? I don't know But I could see for some reason I just you think I mean that's what I'm into. No, I'm not in the math Wait, it's a real thing. It's a fundraising event where you do math Wow, that is Zuckerberg was a mathlet. Um, Andrew Wang was a mathlet. No Alexander Wang was a mathlet. A lot of those tech bros were mathletes, dude Alexander Wang the fashion guy. No, there's a new one. Um, I knew Alexander Wang that that guy died or something. I think I don't think he did. This is a different guy. Oh, this is a gen Z billionaire This Alexander without the e a Wang they call him in the streets boy Whoa, he's 28 years old and the tech trench is deep in the motor Is this screen with the guy looking stuff up with you around all the time or just when you do the podcast? That was so great Because I'm the opposite of this. I never look anything up. You know, I don't you know what my wife said to me yesterday I you know, I don't have I don't keep a smartphone on me. I don't I blocked all the shit on the internet I don't really use the internet. So sometimes I'll just ask my wife stuff the same way you're asking this guy and she's like You know, I'm not the internet. I'm your wife Because I what I'm secretly asking without asking is like, can you look that up for me because I can't look it up And she's like, I'm not the internet Dude, it was a dark moment. You married you married just to have the internet. That's so great I just needed to have a smartphone without having one. So that's why I got married Dude, she said that to me. I'm not the internet. She loves me very much We're just texting about how much we love each other, but it sounds like it. Look, we believe all that It's tough man. It's tough. I mean, I I've you know, I I've gotten lost and had to call her and and been like, hey, we're Where are we? Yeah, I can't find a man because I I live in London and you know, there's you live in London Yeah, most of the time I'm there because we met in London. We live there and um, oh your wife is london is the one Don't pull up the ex-girlfriend. She's in some Some of these photos are wrong But anyway, we live in uh, we live in in london. We met there and um, you know, uh, Does she speak danish as well? Yeah, she's speak danish and I love languages, but danish is pretty tough. Is it? It's tough. Yeah, is it romantic? Is it considered a romantic language? Oh, this gets this this back to the donkey thing Okay, so she said that um, I was like, well, what's like a danish term of affection? Like maybe we can use that and she said it was like skit and I was like that that sounds harsh that doesn't sound very sweet and We were somewhere where we saw donkey and I said, what's the word for donkey and she said esl and she said esl esl and uh And she said it was her first word and that she loved donkeys and I was like, why don't we call each other that and so we started calling each other that Yeah, and now I have you see that ae that that's here on this this chain the ae and that's what led to us Meeting the little mini donkey in Nashville. Where we are now boom God Yeah, yeah, oh you're my little esl. Yeah Exactly, but yeah, it's pretty close. Yeah, that's that's it pretty close I mean, no, you said it right. You're actually saying it better than I do. You're doing the ae the combined ae Yeah, that danish is you know, it's like wait a second now. Now we're coming up with new letters You're combining the a and e. I'm you know, I can speak Italian. Okay. My family speaks tumble. It's an indian language I can speak that a little bit. Well, but yeah, but but danish is it's a tricky one Well, a lot of them mixed are cis and bi gender now some some vowels are like there'll be a vowel that has is trans now It's changing identity. Yeah, it's like what's the other one they ae? How do we pronounce you bro? That's all we've won. We just want to show you respect Yeah, do it right do whatever you want But just tell we just need to know how to use you in a word and some vowels now are like I don't want to be in your fucking words or whatever and we're like bitch Or sir just be in the fucking word dude. You're a letter, but that's where it's at now, man Dan it's tough because we'll be there. That's not a real thing Which thing the isn't that oh with the circle elan's kid's name? I don't know You're saying it right that that's pretty good pronunciation No, and whenever I whenever we're in Denmark and I try to read a word I'll try to pronounce it right and it's just I just don't know the the pronunciation rules I get everything wrong. But wait, how do we start time? Oh because I use a phone sometimes I'm walking around in London and London. There's a lot of like maps on the street So if I get lost I can find the map and kind of make my way But sometimes I like keep walking around hoping to run into one of these maps and I won't run into one I have to call her and I have to be like hey, I'm over here. You gotta tell me how to get to the tube station And I remember that even when I first came to la I don't know whatever you first came to la how long ago it was but You know there wasn't gps and stuff gps was like a fancy thing if they had it at all So I would like print out directions on map quest and I remember You know, I would call my little brother I my little brother is a few years younger than me. He was still in south carolina and I'd call him be like, hey man I'm on caesar chavez Get back Because we did have the stuff When you came to la was it like that? Yeah, dude people had maps drawings You'd have a guy who had directions tattooed on his arm of how to get home if he was an alcoholic or whatever Like shit was definitely more primitive back then people would like Just write on their dashboard how to get home like yeah, people had to remember remember when you just Knew everybody's phone number Yeah, but also when somebody would give you directions, dude And if you missed one of them or something and you were going to a party You just drove around their neighborhood for an hour and then went home like you would drive and roll your windows down And see if you heard a party from the backyard. Yeah, we're basically like a bunch of like um uh Magellons, you know and it's strange. I think there's there's people that grew up without Knowing that at all and it really does seem Nuts that we were able to be okay without it. Yeah, you know, well, it's like you imagine now It's like we're gonna be there for it and nobody's gonna go through tsa, right? Because that's how I barely remember that like that you could go up to the gate and all that stuff You know all of my travel, you know, I started doing comedy By the time I was touring and stuff and traveling all the time like we do that was you were already big touring when you started doing comedy or no No, no, no, I'm saying like I didn't start traveling a bunch, you know Touring and doing all this stuff until after tsa and all these kind of things, you know I barely remember traveling. Um, I wasn't on that many, you know, I wasn't flying all the time like, you know I do now. So I barely remember that time where like you could walk up to the gate, you know I might not even remember it actually. Yeah. I mean that'll happen after 9 11. So it's after 2001, you know Yeah, maybe a couple flights I'd taken probably but yeah, dude Imagine if we went back to that now Would you think say right now you go to the airport? There's no tsa Would you trust everyone enough to be like, okay We're all gonna fly home together guys. Does everybody promise we're not gonna cause any problems I mean Uh, I don't know it'd be it's it's it's wild times right now. I don't know and they would ask you twice I was in the airport these past couple days and you know, the government's been shut down those people are there They're working for free like I was like, hey, just so you know guys we're working for free and I was like, oh my god That's unbelievable. It's wild. Yeah, the government's just turned into like a shitty vehicle It's like every now and then it just fucking shuts down or whatever Dude, I mean you gotta understand For me to like be in London and read about all the stuff happening here and then come here Like I was in Chicago yesterday and the and so my friend's like wow time to be in Chicago I was like, what do you mean? They're like, oh the national guards. They're just grabbing the Mexican people. I was like, what? What when did that happen? I just over here trying to tell people about good fortune And they're like, yeah, they're grabbing they're grabbing Mexican people and the national guards there and Ba-ba-ba TSA. Oh, yeah, they're oh, yeah, what are you getting on a plane later to fly to national? Oh, yeah, they the government shut down like most of the air traffic people went home. Oh great. Thanks. Yeah It's okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna fly to national and then get on another plane back to new york same day Cool weekend to be on all these planes. Yeah, it's just the bad news bears of TSA right now You got all the people that are like down to come and work in for free Dude, you have just like the militant guy. You have the guys been waiting to get in the game like Wait like no training, but just fucking waiting to get in the fly back today This is gonna be a really dark last interview snippet and here's the clip or as these predicts Oh my god, bro. That's so hilarious that there's like backup Everybody's back up right now Like the park wardens are like, bro. Welcome to the fucking park, bro. It's like It's just like the second string, dude. He's like, dude, the owls are fucking Monumental right now, bro. I take all these people for granted. That's so true, huh? well, the the raids and stuff like that are crazy because We they let so many people into the country, right? Like without having a pattern of like this is an organized way to do something, right? Because I think they need to organize it it needs to be organized, right? Because it's it's odd if people are Here that they live in fear that they're always going to be like they you know found out or something and then it's odd that people are That there's nefarious people here that don't want to be found out, you know, so I think like they need some organization of it But yeah, the fact that it gets like where people are being Ripped out of places and then you don't know also some of these days I I really believe you don't know what's real and what's not when you see it sometimes Like it could literally be a scene that was put together like some of like the Antifa stuff you would see in the park during the pandemic and I watch I watch that movie Do you see one battle after another? It's good. It's amazing, but it's it's it's crazy because you know, he wrote that movie a long time ago and It's like I was in Chicago and I was like damn this is one battle after another because you know in the movie it's it's very much like Uh a military state and like the military is just you know around going and doing this kind of stuff And it's kind of wild to do you know, he's supposedly been working on the movie for like 15 years or something and and it's it's out now when this stuff is you know So top of mind it's so so in there, you know Yeah, eddington was really great. You see eddington. I didn't see eddington, but I've heard it's it's kind of they're they're dealing with similar stuff I need to see that. Yeah, just a lot of things happening at once. Um, but I believe we're headed to a Surveillance state, you know, I believe that we're that's why they're That happened like Drones bro, I'm talking about drones in the sky surveillance like that vibe. Oh my god Like that's where we're heading like dude the movie I want to see this is how I think it ends Blacks vs. Drones dude What that's how it ends bro that is People are wondering how does time how does this all where the indian people fit in this? Are we running? We're just running Okay, the right Where do the indians fit in this movie? Okay, we need kairi Irving to move over to the You just like what's he okay? No, I mean, I'm just thinking of a cool black guy. Um, but yeah, you're like, okay Uh, but dude, that's how it ends like I think you're everybody's like what's going on in society and like these different groups and people back and like, you know Genes how all these stuff going on and you're like, how does it all and I think it's black vs. Drones I don't know Me any as someone that used to live here and now comes here occasionally for work every time I come back It just feels wild and it feels I think it feels wilder to me because I think for people that are here It's like, oh, they're slowly seeing it get crazy. So they're not going from like one to a hundred like I do Like, you know, my time in la, you know, I remember You know just seeing the amount of tents and all that stuff You know coming You know going to la and in new york after covid because during covid I was in london the whole time with my wife So coming back to both those cities after covid I was like, whoa Yeah, it's like a slipknot tailgate out there now, you know It's fucking crazy. You know, my wife loves slipknot. You're lying My wife has a phd in physics or how she's a genius And she loves it's like she had this emo phase and I every now that I'll just I'll just bring up that she loves my two favorite facts about my wife She's gonna hate that I'm bringing this stuff up. No, it's important one is that she loves slipknot And the other thing is that she was little miss denmark That was a little competition for little kids when she was like five six year olds and she won Two years in a row and then they stopped the contest. No because she kept winning God They shut it down they shut it down what they don't like somebody really stepping out of the norm there I think they were just like we this is we shouldn't be doing these little pageants for these kids and and my wife She said like they would have a you know, like oh you'd have the talent portion or whatever And and she would be like, you know doing her dance whatever and they're like, all right, that's good She's like no, no, I'm not finished with my routine I don't mean to be an s. So Yeah, but I'm about to win this bitch for a third time dude. Holy shit She's like the boston celtics of those fucking danish competitions. Yeah, and then and then she had her emo phase and got really really into slipknot For belt against the pageant life You shut down a pageant queen like that where they can't even perform anymore. That is a direct avenue to slipknot Gory understands how else do you even manage that sort of stress and strain Where are you gonna put those fucking pirouettes, bro? 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My wife's gonna be thrilled. Oh, that's awesome I'm glad that you found love out there man. Did you uh, were you go with the ladies growing up? What was your energy like? You know, I grew up in It's weird because I grew up in south carolina I remember every school like in the south kind of had an had an indian guy. Was it like that at your school? Was there a big indian group? There's two there's two versions of this. Okay, there's like, oh if you're in like atlanta or something There's like the indian crew and they hang out And then there's what I grew up with which is like just me and when I was little I kind of forget this sometimes in like first and second grade There was this tie girl and her name was tisha Which doesn't make sense. That's doesn't really sound like a tie name, but her name was tisha But they love kind of a black tie A fair it sounds like a black tie It sounds like a black tie fair And but they they left and then it was just me as indian and It's in the 80s and you know, it's so interesting to look back I was thinking about this and I had a conversation with my mom a while ago that really like blew me away. So first off Yeah, as soon as I tell people I grew up in South Carolina, they're always like, oh It must have been so racist all this stuff. And of course there was there's moments where it wasn't nice and Like people calling you almost in word or something like that. Oh in word not almost. Oh really? Yeah. Yeah, because people are nearsighted or whatever I don't know that's crazy but There was also I feel like, you know, there was a time I was writing something and I asked my parents to just tell me like I didn't want to write Stuff about people being racist to to people. I wanted to write something positive So I was like, tell me things you remember that were positive like experiences you had, you know being because someone because You know, my parents are there in the 80s. Yeah, different for sure They don't people there didn't even know what indian people were. They didn't see them in the culture They didn't see nothing. They didn't understand. It looks like a black person that they didn't finish the job on or whatever Kind of you know, no judgment that let's just make sure that quote is attributed to you Because sometimes you do see that indian dude, you're like, is this a black dude or an indian dude? But we're joking, but it is what people were saying. They had never seen indian people before Yes, I agree. They were not in the media or anything And so my experience, you know, I'm talking about the positive stuff. First off, I skipped first and second grade I did first and second grade in one year. So people were like people were like, oh my god, this genius little brown boy And and so I was like I had and I I was in a small school. There was like 30 kids in my class There's 8,000 people that live in my town. Um Yeah, but uh, you know, I was raised by my parents, but uh first grade's fucking easy, dude First grade is easy. My dad would like show me that it takes a whole year. You're like, what the fuck are we doing here? My dad would like write little math problems and stuff for me. So I was really advanced in like math and stuff So in the middle of the middle of the first grade, go back and look at it. Yeah, no, it's it's yeah You should be able to teach your kid all that stuff before they get to school. You can even eavesdrop You can tap into like classrooms and watch it's like this is so fucking easy, dude I wish you had a ring camera in there and just be giving the kids the answers and shit. What it's yellow If they had like one of those ring cameras, you could talk in like a children's class or whatever I mean back then no ring camera just had my dad teaching me stuff So by the time I was like halfway through first grade They called my parents and like this is you gotta get him out of here He's he's gotta go up to second grade and so I went to second grade and that was like this big Story in the school that some kids skipped the grade. Yeah, it's like when LeBron left Miami It was exactly like LeBron. I was like LeBron with like very elementary math problems. Yeah LeBron mon. Yes, exactly and uh But you know when I was thinking back about my childhood and talking to my parents and and You know, there was these two ladies that uh Took care of us first off I was talking to my mom and she's talking about how When she came to South Carolina, my dad had been in America He was in newton jersey doing his residency Then he went back to india married my mom and then they came to South Carolina Where my dad moved because he applied for these jobs all over the country and in South Carolina They didn't have a lot of the doctor. He was he's a gastroenterologist. So then they moved to South Carolina My mom comes to South Carolina. This woman's never left india like this. That's crazy. She's in benetsville, South Carolina not like oh, you're in new york city. No benetsville, South Carolina and uh My dad brings her home and then he has to go to work and I asked my mom I was like, you know, what was that day like and she was like and I put this in my show She said oh, I just sat on the couch and I cried and I was like, oh my god It's so dark. It was like so much braver than I I could be you know, I mean, this is there's no face time Nothing, none of that. You're really alone. It was cable television. Yeah, but I'm talking about like to have a connection with your family or anything There's no way to communicate you're just praying and like lighting candles and putting those oranges in that little thing There's no Even like making a long distance call was a different thing back then. Yeah, it was like 11 dollars Yeah, it was not the way it is now where you could you know, so she was really alone But she used to go and do laundry all the time To just be around other people and there was some lady there An older white lady that recognized that you know became saw saw her with me and uh And and became friendly with her and they called her grandma I don't know the woman's real name actually when and and I called her grandma And she would take care of me and like Kind of looked out for our family And she eventually I I think she moved or something or whatever, but she she she couldn't take care of us anymore and this woman, uh Who we called nana? It's what her grandkids called her She started taking care of us and then there was this woman named miss buehla who who would take care of us after school She has some tits on her I bet I'm miss buehla recipes. I'm not gonna come on that. Yeah, I didn't know that That's not good. Yeah, miss buehla as you might guess from the name buehla Black woman from the south and would cook the meanest southern food for us so I would eat Indian food and southern food and um, and so nana miss buehla are part of my life and um, you know, I uh I had a sister that passed away And she was uh a few years younger than me and she had a very rare. She had a um, Something called hurler syndrome. It's a super rare. Um, liver disease Sorry, uh, it's I'm a little heavy for me, but um So she she passed away What's her name? Her name is nafis nafis. That's a pretty name, huh? Yeah um, and uh, she passed away and uh, nana, um nana passed away a few years ago when I was in college a while ago now and um You know, I didn't get a chance to practice miss buehla. I got to say a proper goodbye to I went and saw her when she was Stand in retirement home nana. I didn't have that same moment. I was in college and and it wasn't uh, The same kind of thing where I had that opportunity to say bye um But my mom had told me that she went to go see um Uh visit my sister at cemetery and and you know My sister's buried in in in south carolina in in benetsville And you know that is a tricky thing because my family's from a muslim background and they wanted to do They were asking the cemetery. Can we do the things we do for our culture? And and the cemetery was like, yeah, of course, whatever you need to do, which is which is so Cool to me that they they they were open to that and the whole community You know, we're visiting our family and everything and um I remember Even like a priest came by to just you know, even though we were a different religion he came and like wanted to talk to us and stuff and Everyone was just so kind about it and and um My mom told me that she went to go see uh My sister at the cemetery And she said oh and we saw nana too. I was like, what do you mean? She's like well nana's Buried right next to her. No And I just I like melted as a human because I I I did not know that and and to me like I heard that and and I was like wow like, you know, I was saying all the stuff about craziest countries and how crazy it feels right now But that story That doesn't happen anywhere else in the world, man. Like those two people my sister And this woman They befriended you guys. Yeah have that close to bond where she's like I don't want to be buried next to her I mean it was it was I did not know that and and and you know, I I heard that and I was like I I don't know why it popped in my head But I'm so glad it did and then I got to share that with you because I heard that story And I was like man people need to hear that story because it's not the story people Want to tell oh, it's not the story that the media wants to tell us on a story that it's a story that doesn't really get the clicks but it's the story that's probably It's the truth that most people That the human part of us is what makes us Special and that's the part that we should all try and lean into the most is that We're this special thing that can care about each other. You know, yeah, I mean the the fact that these people saw my parents and and And and tried to forge this bond with them and I mean I hope we're still a place where that kind of stuff can happen I think it happens a lot. I think you're just right. I think it's not the like the new it's not the news You know, but I think it is more common probably than we think um Thanks for sharing that dude. It is an important story. That's a great story Oh, sorry Um, did your sister have it the whole time when she was growing up when she was born from birth? Yeah, it was it was one of these things where you know, the life expectancy with that, uh, Herlers is not um, it's not real long It she passed when she was like six eight years old. Oh, yeah, and was she um, and it's one of these things I don't really talk about it very much and a lot of people even that know me don't know I had a sister because People would ask me like, oh, do you have any siblings? And I'm like, oh, yeah I got a little brother and and I had a sister that passed away and I would say it like that and then people like Like it's a very like heavy thing to hear all of a sudden And so I was like, oh, I don't want to make people uncomfortable. So I'll just say Oh, I have a little brother and then they'll be like, what's your guys's gap? Oh, uh, he's seven years old. Wow, it's a big gap Yeah, I'm gonna not go down this Because I don't want to bum everybody out because we're all just hanging out At Chick-fil-A right now sitting there tapping her foot like what are we doing here? No, dude, that's um, my sister was born with a rare liver disease and she had to get a liver transplant when we were kids So we spent most of our childhood like, um You know, she was always this thing that we couldn't touch because she always had to have these surgeries and stuff So I think it just reminds me like a lot of that. I think some of that Oh, man that stuff, you know, I think it's just interesting when you grow up with a sibling that's sick because I think it I never even thought about it till you were saying some of this it just like I don't know you have to adjust yourself. I think to try and maybe Like my sister got most of the care right but she needed most of it So it was weird. So there were times where I'd be like, I don't you know later on in life I'd be like, oh, I didn't get this care, but it was like I didn't need it the most You know, what was you guys's age difference? Um two years and she's still alive. She ended up getting a liver transplant She got one of the first liver transplant and um We moved to Arizona. She got it out there and but um, that's incredible But it was just this whole time when she was a kid she was always being flown off to these places and they sounded magical Like Rochester Minnesota just different places where these these big hospitals and she'd come back like this like Almost like this build a bear that somebody done a shitty job with you know what I'm saying like just all these scars and stuff But it was just she was always this it was weird because you like couldn't hold it It was just like it was interesting. Did you have any experience like that with your sister or what was it like? there wasn't that kind of um There wasn't like all these things to try because uh The hurlers is pretty they don't really have a thing You know, there's like, you know, oh, you can maybe do a bone trans bone marrow transplant and but it's it's not really a thing They've made much progress on So there was never anything like that and I don't know it's interesting talking about this because because you think about It's like when you're a kid It's so hard to understand what's happening. You have no frame of reference and you know when I look back on that stuff As as an adult. I can't imagine how hard it was for my parents like, you know to to to have a child that has something like that And then to lose a child it's it's you know, I can't It's strange to like step outside of yourself and Honestly, this is like some of the most I've talked about it With anybody and I don't mean to pry about it. It's just and there's also a thing in the no and not at all I don't think prying at all and I I think it's really interesting that you know, you had something your sister had something as well and and um, but you know, there's a thing with like Indian families and you know, I mean, maybe it's it's A lot of families in that time. It's like you don't talk about stuff Oh really? Is that like an Indian thing kind of? I think there's something of like, oh, you're not as open about your feelings and stuff and You're just a little bit more closed off. I think so. Yeah with Asian families Indian families I think with with emotional stuff like that, you know, but you guys do reincarnation So you can you're probably just like, oh, we can have the feelings later. We can have that's that's an hinduism That's a different thing. But oh really fuck. Yeah. So you guys are one time only Is um, it's it's the same as Christianity. It's you know in terms of that stuff as far as I know, I'm not a super religious guy But yes, that's uh, there's the reincarnation is just in in hindu culture See you guys are one and done, huh? I mean, so is a lot of people. Okay. I'm just saying yeah, but yeah, man This got really we really went for a heavy turn after microdonkeys This is uh, you're too much It's okay. This is uh, you're teared up over here. I'm teared up but it's it's good to talk about the stuff and and and um, you know, it's it's so strange to think back about You know those times and and um Yeah, to think about your family went through especially my parents, you know, I never think about that I always think about things. This is one place that I kind of like struggle with I think A lot of times I'll think about certain periods and things that happen and I'll only think about it like as to how it affected me and it's like Man to get into that place of where you're even thinking like Well, how did this affect my parents? Like I was eating dinner with some friends yesterday And in the background she has like these four kids and they're beautiful kids. They have the cutest kids um and They're all going haywire and I there was the first time I thought Holy shit, my mom had four kids and nobody to fucking help like there was And it was oh, yeah, imagine what that would be like these days. That's sounds impossible Impossible and our parents were able to do that kind of stuff But it was the first time that I like even had a perspective moment like that that was that clear, you know Oh, yeah, I just just so for you to have that I think is pretty cool that you think like oh What my parents must have went through, you know, because it's like yeah, it's like for us It's a sibling but for them. It's like, you know, it's probably something that feels far greater, you know Yeah Anyway, I didn't mean to delve into that man No, no, I I'm glad we did and I think it's a really interesting thing to talk about and and and for me. I you know, um I bet you'd be so proud of you um You know what think about sometimes is there is do you know the comic strip? Comic strip live in in new york. Oh, yeah. Yeah You know that club. Yep. That was the first club I ever got passed at and uh, there was a guy his name was luchin hold And he was the guy that would pass you, you know, you've heard of like esti at the cell He was like esti at the cell. He was the guy. Yeah, there's always that person There's always a person that was a gatekeeper and I went in there when I was like 18 and what was cool about the comic strip was They had a um thing where anybody could audition like you just lined up and then you could audition And which is like because you know, I don't know if this was your experience when you're starting out But it's like you just wanted a shot, right? Oh, yeah You just wanted a shot and the idea of that you could be a regular at the comic I remember I used to go to the comedy cellar and I just be like, oh my god. Could you imagine just getting spots here? Could you imagine just how amazing would be to get spots? That was my dream. I know you're so right and so I went to the comedy comic strip They had this, you know open call like you just had a waiting line and then you'd pick from uh, I Believe what would do is you'd pick from a lottery and it would give you a date A date? Yeah, like a month. They would do on Mondays. They'd have a certain number of people That were from this audition. That's cool. So I picked a date and then I showed up And you went through this one woman And if she said okay, you can see lusion you'd audition for lusion and so I got through it and then I um I auditioned for lusion And um, you know you wait around you wait around all these kind of things even like that's now you hear these stories I feel like yeah, you didn't just wait around they just make you wait around And then he spoke to me at the end and he was like He was like you could start working at the club and I was like And and and I was terrible. I was not good But I was like very young and I was very comfortable on stage And he told me he was like, you know when people your age come in here He was like you're still at NYU right now. I was like, yeah, yeah He said, you know, um Adam salin was in NYU when I passed and so was Sarah Silverman and I was like, oh wow I mean, I remember I said, oh wow, I'd be amazing if I had a career like that He's like, I don't know if that's in the cards for you, but you could he was he was like the most straight shooting guy I mean, there's a very few people that are honest like that that I've met in my 20-something years He was the guy that was like that and he was like, I don't know if that's Not an impression of him, but he was like, I I I don't know if that's uh something that's in the cards for you but you could start working in the club and and um I would do uh You would do like late night, which is like uh They'd have the show and then you could sign up to go on at the end of the show So there'd be like nobody there. I do that all the time Sure, but getting up on stage even just that's everything walking up when you're coming up You if if there's six people there it feels like a million people It you're so excited the feeling that is the energy that the the the Fear and that energy and that nervous it feels like a million and and sometimes I mean, and I'll say this and you're gonna light up because you'll know this feeling Sometimes someone on the bill like that was supposed to be on it like nine o'clock wouldn't show up and they'd pull someone from late night And so you'd get to go on When people were still still there. Yes And I remember one time like I'm gonna show these bitches. That's what I would say I had kind of an aggressive nature, but go but he was like this kind of like oh, I I'm gonna get to prove myself a little bit but um Oh one time I remember Chris rock dropped in and I went after it went on after him And like everybody was everyone's like, oh, Chris rock just went on they just all start leaving and I told Chris the story the other day I was like, I forgot this I forgot. I mean and now he's my fucking friend. It's the craziest thing in the world to me um, but Lucian he had a disease called uh, uh, Skeletorma, I don't know why I'm saying the disease he had but anyway Is it ashy skin? No, it's like a skin problem. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what it is exactly but um, Skeletorman This dude stopped looking up stuff because it's gotten too dark the stuff for top and he's like, I'm not gonna pull up this stuff on wikipedia It's too dark He's like, oh, I don't think it's appropriate. I'm not gonna. I'm just gonna let this be Wait till they start talking about mini cows again, I can pull up those cute pictures He has like a whole he has a whole barrel full You know, maybe I do bring it up because if someone wants to donate to to his fund or whatever So Lucian had this disease and we knew he was passing away and I went and visited him And and it was like that movie being mortal, you know, it was like I knew he was passed away. I knew this was probably our last conversation and um He and dude this dude passed away You know, Chris spoke at his funeral Um, I think Seinfeld may have said something. I can't remember. I remember I went to the funeral and I was like a little kid I remember I like went and like was crying in the bathroom and stuff because this dude was the first dude ever To genuinely believe that I could do something in our world the first person to say, hey, I'm gonna give you It was like fucking 10 bucks or whatever. He was like, I believe in the idea of paying you to tell jokes and and he um we had that conversation and and uh I remember he said something to me and he talked about some comic that he used to know that went to la and um, not like a super successful guy, but a guy that did okay and he was like, you know He said this guy told him that he was in la and he said that uh, that's Lucian. Yes, that's Lucian. Oh Uh, yeah But all I mean, he's he's like, you know, if you talk to guys like they love him Yeah, and they remember him from back in the day like he was a character He he he's the guy that passed, you know, eddie murphy and like the famous story of chris rock is like eddie murphy was at the club and uh, he asked lucian, do you have any do you have any uh black comics and uh, he said, yeah, I got one I'll put him up if you'll watch him and it was chris rock And then eddie murphy watched him and then put him in in beverly hills cop too But anyway, dude, that's so great though. It was it's a huge deal. It's a huge amount of validation because it's it's I can't really explain it's still like when I think of all the things I've done in my career. It's still I was excited as about that. I mean dude, I it was like I think it was like 10 years ago. I did madden square garden I It was a similar feeling to get past. Yeah, you know And um, but anyway, he told me the story about some guy in in la and he said that guy told him like, you know, there's all these Idiots in la and and and if if they're able to do it, I can do it too something to that extent like and uh, it was a more Said it more eloquent than that. I'm not doing it justice, but he basically said to me You're gonna be okay and he left me with that and it was really cool lucian did yeah he said you're gonna be okay like you're a smart guy and you're gonna be okay and I mean, I've I've been fortunate enough and I think I'm I mean that was what I was a little kid you know, I hadn't done anything really and and you know I I feel like I've been fortunate enough in my career to to be uh More than okay And done a lot of great things. I never would have thought possible when I was you know interacting with lucian and um, you know one of my Not regrets or I don't know not just just one of my uh, oh man kind of feelings is that like oh this guy that was the first guy To believe in me to see me. Yeah, didn't get to see that how far I really went You know and and we're sorry. I feel like I'm like take it up too much of your time. No, this is good Well, you're a great storyteller. I'm realizing that's honestly one thing. I've realized sitting here and uh, and I can see why you're able to do what you do even more like writing your movies and Knowing like yeah saying how streamlining is I'm enjoying it. So go on. Sorry You know, I I was in a cab one time in London and I was like It's weird because once you become successful It's weird when you drop into a comedy club everyone goes nuts and and everything's a little sweeter because they're excited because you're famous and I was in a cab with my wife In in London and I and someone was like tell tell us about this thing or whatever And I told I talked about this whole story of something that happened to us and when I left the cab driver said hey Really good storyteller and I was like holy shit That was like winning an Emmy for me because I was like that guy has no clue who I am and he He went out of his way to tell me that that that made me feel really good Was he an Indian guy? No, why would he be Indian Theo? Racism he he was like Okay Okay, he was a fully finished black guy. He was a black guy Um, I love I mean, I love race stuff It's fun to joke about and think about because it's so different and it's fun, you know That's funny stuff. But that's uh, you're right man. It's sorry, but yeah somebody telling you a great storyteller It's so funny. It's something that's that one word or one thing It's like and to get it from someone that doesn't know anything Because sometimes you feel like oh man like not like oh people You feel like I don't know how much of this is sweetened up because of right ever and and and and it's very frustrating Because I don't think anyone that's successful like that wants any of that. But you know You get a little bit of that when you you drop in and you're working on material and you know When you're on stage for a while, eventually you know if it's that good That's the worst part. You're like is this even good and you're like are you just getting unfair reactions? But then hopefully if you're self-aware enough and that judge inside of you that little party that's always hated you is still Like in lurking you gotta have that guy in there That guy needs to be there that guy needs to be there and if he's there, you know, because you know all your people Oh, man, it's it's your best hour. It's like it's it's getting there Right, you got to have that little guy and you got to have that little guy and look that's that's you know Whether it's a movie or stand-up show like you know screening a movie It's like people don't lie eventually like though They'll be sweet for a little bit, but eventually they are like, all right. Come on, you know, they that drops After a few minutes. Yeah, and if you start smoking your own bullshit, too, that's when it can get really spooky Oh, that's that's when you got to make sure you you know, I I've been around people enough to be like, oh that when you start having a bunch of people around you that tell you you're awesome That's when the everything starts falling apart. Have you ever had ego problems? You've ever had anything like that like or have you ever able to check your own ego kind of this type of things Because ego is so dangerous because it can kind of grow in the distance. It's almost like something that you don't see growing It's almost like you're standing there with your shadow and then your shadow gets bigger without you noticing it, you know You know, I think I think the way I I hopefully have been able to avoid that kind of problem is is um I'm not around all the time. You know what I mean? I kind of go in a hole and work on stuff This is like the most Shit I've done I haven't I haven't been on your podcast. I haven't been on anybody's podcast. I haven't done anything I've just been working and you know being back out in in in kind of wild Yeah, in the kind of press world. It's been kind of A little overwhelming for me I get very overwhelmed whenever I finish like season one and two of my show like whenever it came on Netflix like I left the country because I was just a little bit It was just too much for me like I went to uh, I went to Japan for a couple of months because like Really for months? Did you see Kanye or not? He wasn't there at the time, but you know, I I I wanted to be somewhere where people didn't really know who I was It was it felt a bit it can be a little overwhelming like that that part of our jobs of of red carp It's an interview. It's not it's a lot. Yeah, I never done a lot of that stuff So I that part I don't know about but I can imagine But you know it I'm here and I've been doing all stuff I love doing this because we're just having a great conversation Um, not everything is this fun um, but You know, I do it because I I feel like it's a part of the job And I got to support the work and the studio that paid for the movie and everything So I do it, but it's it's not my I I like the work. I mean all I'm looking forward to is getting back On getting back to work like doing like being on set with some people and and and being like hey do this or You know, I'm going back on the road for a little bit like being on the road like that that is a billion times more fun Um, then some of the stuff you have to do excluding like this And I actually like that podcast or a thing now because I did Amy pollers podcast. That was so fun She's great. I hadn't seen her in a while and it's like oh bad I'm just excited to like be with you for an hour and change because I hadn't seen you in so long but yeah, dude, thanks for making me think about We had a guy named Tommy at the comedy store and I and he was like the guy and he's like this character I've heard his name. Yeah. Yeah and people impersonated him all the time And he really was he had this long hair and he looked like a rock and roll guy and I believe he was I think he also played in a band and um, and he made jellies and jams and he would bring those He was this very like eccentric type of guy. Yeah. Yeah, um, but he took care of mitzi shore But he would be the guy and he'd sit there and he'd open little curtains of the Little will call booth had little curtains on it and he'd be like you're doing good But I happened I went to the comedy store one time. I was trying to find out how do they do sign-ups I remember and I was buying a beer on the porch and he thought I was somebody else He's like, haven't seen you around here in a while. You know, we miss you coming around and uh I was like, yeah And he goes, why don't you come in come back in on sunday, man I'm gonna I want to I want to see you back up there And he fucking had me confused with whoa, why did you do the other spot? Yeah, you did the spot. Did you put your name down there? No, I just I I I didn't even think about that And I just got fucking doing and how'd your set go and it went good enough where I got to keep going but it was But before that for sure I went and signed up and waited outside and there's like a guy that's Practicing juggling who can't even talk and he's like telling his jokes through like Like bowling pins and shit. It's like there's all types of stuff There's somebody training a bird or whatever and he's like barely trained and he's like trying to train it really fast in the parking It's like you cannot train a train a bird really fast. But this is the same thing. I was talking about earlier It's so interesting to me that you know comedy Comedians we're all having you know This is a crazy moment to be a comedian and people are having such overwhelming amounts of success, but at the end of the day like All of us started just wanting a room full of people just a crowd And to be able to perform. Yeah Well, you know one one thing that was great about uh good fortune, dude, and I haven't finished it But I really I like it and I'm excited to see the end of it It's not that long a movie by the way, but I didn't get home last night. So probably 11 30 No, I'm just saying for people that are worried that oh, yeah, no, no, it's not an hour and a half movie Um, but it's good dude There were so many like start there started to be some really good plot changes for me that I really dug like right around the spot where I'm at where the You think it's going to go one way and now it starts to change up and then I don't want to give too much of it away. But one thing that was really amazing about it and my friend was watching it with me Uh, was that you felt of how tough it is that first year or two in LA? You felt of like like when uh your character sleeping in his car, right? Yeah, or like when there's door dash delivery and just like the jobs you get when you first get to a big city to try to survive The parking tickets and how you lose your car you just come out of a place You barely had enough money to go get some avocados. It was the one thing you were treating yourself to this week It was like two avocados. I'm gonna cut those bitches up and I'm gonna eat those bitches, right? And then I'm gonna go to sleep Right, you were so excited and you come out and your fucking car has been towed because you didn't pay tickets All that shit, dude. My friend and I slept in the mcdonald's ball pit We would jump the fence and sleep in that fucking ball pit Because it was like kind of some more space to lay out, right? Like if you got under the balls There's hair in there. There's coins under there But it is there's a little bit more room for your body than like because we tried to sleep in his car one night And it was just a nightmare But going through all of that. Yeah, and there is the hair goes to the bottom which I don't understand how that works that science but uh and yeah They should do a they should see what's in the bottom of a lot of these it's not good But yeah, we we would jump over the fence and and sleep in one that You know that that close at 10 we get in just get five five hours of sleep or something, you know Oh my god, I'm so sorry. I could relate. No, it was awesome. It was fucking great One night we're in there dude. We're talking shit to each other laughing and stuff and a fucking asian guys on the slide He's asleep He's on the slide He's like he's very very exposed No, I get one of those high slides where there was room where you could kind of get uh, you know, it was in compas He was in the best spot. Oh my god. Yes. He was in one of the tubes Damn, that's better than the ball pit. That's a pro move. Yeah, and he even came up to the window It was like a little hamster showing up But dude that was like But I forget you forget about all the pieces of the things and the moments that like we're so big Um and that was an la and that was an la and I think we all McDonald's in la It's on wilshire boulevard like wilshire and does that asian guy have a podcast now too. I hope he does I don't think it's ronnie chang You know, I was doing uh, I was doing uh, uh, one of those shows at the comedy cellar where people don't know who's gonna show up It was like surprise headliner and it's just me working on stuff And I walked by the line and some lady goes I hope it's not ronnie chang Really? Yeah, but then I found out that it's because she'd been to another one of these and it was ronnie chang She and and and we talked about it at the show, but it wasn't because she doesn't like all love to ronnie chang I love ronnie chang. I just got to see him last week. I bumped into him. I went into the comedy comedy cellar Okay, yeah, yeah, just stopped and he was in there was awesome He's great. Yeah, but I just got some great specials too if you haven't seen if you haven't seen him We I get to get him to come in and talk sometime. Yeah, no, he's great, but I just thought it was funny to walk by That's so funny, dude. Yeah Um, but yeah, that's one thing I loved about good fortune Uh, you and seth ronnie are just you guys are buddies. I guess it is work buddies And we had spoke about this movie and you know, if anyone listening is going to see the movie Please You know see it in a theater with the crowd because we were talking about these movies like I think it's worth it for sure. It definitely felt like a real movie to me. It didn't feel like some forced shit You know, I know like they're like, you know, sometimes you get these movies and it's like, uh You know, they're good. It felt shit feels forced or too fake or like it's not real. I didn't feel any of that I didn't feel like any pandering for some like social causes or any shit like that It's trying to be very real and um and very funny and and you know, it's good, dude I'm fucking excited about finishing it. Oh because your character starts to get like what the fuck I thought he was great and then he's like But you see the different parts of us that can come out and come to the surface When different things like are attached to us Yeah, but when we were making the movie seth and I would talk about like, you know How we'd go to movie theaters and see movies like anchor man or super bad or you know, pineapple express and and and you'd have like a room it'd be like a stand-up show, you know, like a room full of people erupting and You know, it's like what we feel when you do stand-up like if we did stand-up and there was only like One person in the crowd. That's not the same thing like the people make a difference. So like see in a movie A comedy in theaters it's something that's kind of gone away after the pandemic and everything and and um I hope we can bring it back. I mean, we were just in Chicago last night and we screened the movie We've been doing these like little secret screenings and and I've been sitting in a little bit and watching it I'm like, I don't even remember the last time I've been in a packed theater watching a comedy so I hope the movie works and that People get to make more comedies and they get to see them in theaters because you know, it's something that I miss and um, yeah I mean, especially because our movie is like an original movie um a comedy theatrical It's tough to get it done. I mean, I really am not even lying or joking or pandering to you or to our fans I wouldn't say that I think it's worth going to see I think if you took a date or a friend or your buddy You guys would have a good time It would be worth your money it'd be worth driving over there and sitting in there so far and I'm not even done with it Unless it gets really bad in the second half the back. Oh bad the back. That's great We're gonna have to talk about it afterwards because it really relates to a lot of the things Some of the stuff we were talking about earlier some of the emotional Things we were talking about in terms of just just kind of seeing other people and seeing what they're going through and just kind of Giving them a look, you know, I was thinking about that when my mom was telling me that story, but Yeah Yeah, yeah, that was a great story, man Do you feel like why do you feel like you have to do so much? Because this is something I've struggled with in my own life Like I I think I need to have a kid or something because I I feel like as I've gotten older You know, I do things like oh, yeah, you know, I was I'm like, you've done so many tv shows you've written you've directed you've won. Haven't you want to emmy before? Yeah, one one two at me. Damn, brother. Yeah gang. Yeah, but I'm just saying like and sorry. I don't know I don't know a lot about that. Um, but uh But but doing too much. Why do you have do you do you ever know why you feel like you because some people? They could do half of that And feel extremely accomplished and they would be But do you feel like is it is it financial? Which is fine is definitely nice to have money and have security Is it like is there something that you find because not financial because doing movies? I you know I technically would make way more money touring Like losing money doing these movies Like I'm trying to make a movie for theaters. It's kind of like trying to be like hey I want to build a tower records. Uh, good luck. Aziz. Um, it's it's not what's the lucrative thing You know what I mean? Like it's interesting because I I my like heyday of touring and everything was probably you know 10 years ago when I did Um the garden and all that stuff. I was touring like crazy and back in that time Not many people were doing theaters and arenas like there was only a few people and now it's like Fucking everybody does and when I go on tour, I'm like who's who's Alton brown the chef He's playing the the the d-pack center in Durham. Oh, he's just chopping food up and people are coming Everybody's on tour dude. There'll be a dude juliening a carrot for 11,000 people. Yes, and you're like what is it? That tv show is it cake is going on tour. I'm like, yes Yes, is it cake tour and you're like wait, I'm that's what I'm competing with people in the stands with binoculars trying to figure out It was not like this at 70 yards. It's ridiculous. It's not like this and the number of it's fondant It was not like this and in that time there was a whole podcast boom Everybody found an audience you didn't you cut out the middlemen of netflix or whatever people are putting stuff on youtube And now all these people are touring and there's been this massive boom and I during that time made my tv series worked on these movies and have kind of uh Stepped away. Um, but we're coming back. You're you're touring again. Yeah, I'm touring again now and and it's been so fun and I have I've had a great time But I'm also like damn dude the travel it hits me in a different way and like I'm yeah, you see october 23rd I'm getting stressed. I'm like I can't go to tecula. I gotta I gotta cancel tecula stay, Diego. Oh god. Oh, i'm a desta Monterey. Oh god, at least I can hub out of la. Oh, no, then I gotta fly to cinzani on the 13th. Oh god They're gonna fly to louisville tsa. He's gonna be closed. There's gonna be like one air traffic controller Then i'm probably gonna go down on my way. Wait st. Louis. That's gonna be delayed. Indianapolis will be fun, dude Indianapolis, then I go see my family in charlotte. That's nice. I love ashville. Ashville is a great great town And savannah is a great town. Savannah is beautiful, too No, I love the show and I love being in the different cities because you know when you tour you form relationship What's with these cities that you're sure? Oh, you're excited to go back. You're excited to see like oh, look at this crowd This one's different this energy this place is yeah And and what's so cool is is and I think this is why people like to go to live stand up is like even if you watch in special It's not the same as that show in that town and it's really fun And um, you know for me like this tour it's been fun because I haven't toured in a while So it's a lot of stuff has happened, you know, I've been married We're me and my wife are trying to have a kid and to go back to the thing we're talking about of like doing too much like The movies I feel like that comes from like I have an idea and I have this Vision of it sounds cheesy to say vision But I have a vision of something I want to execute and it's something I'm really excited about I'm like racing to be on set to do like it could just be like I'm rising up now I have this one seat. I'm like, oh man. I just want to shoot that scene I like think this would be so I got to get there and it's a long time to get there. Movies are so slow You got to work with so many other people. It's a nightmare But I do it because I really love films and and and I want to make more films Um, but I do think I've realized recently like I've got to calm down like I think I've overestimated my ability To work and and and as I get older, you know, you burn out. They get stressed the stress builds I've seen friends that are burned out. Oh, dude, you're looking at one of them We're not even friends, but you're looking at something that's been burned out, but we could maybe be friends I mean, I hope so dude. We went we went deep here. This is deeper than I went on any other podcast We talked about some heavy stuff. Yeah, and a great way. I love it. I mean, I think this is so much We talk about a lot of this stuff on here. It's important, you know, it's nice to like I really I really like it But no, I that burnout feeling it's like, bro. It's real. I started shedding hair recently, dude We had a freaking retired boston detective with some of the craziest stories found a wiener on the sidewalk and it was like A real who done it or whatever obviously the person missing the wiener did it but uh So it was pretty kind of an easy. It wasn't like knives out. Actually, it was like knives out. It's a long story. But um Anyway, oh shit, I forgot what I was talking about. We were talking about like just the burnout. Oh, yeah The burnout is real that happens, dude. Yeah, it started shedding hair all that kind of stuff. It's tough to say no too Because you know, you're having a moment right now and I've had a moment And you know people start telling you to do all this stuff and no one on your side of the business is going to be like Dude, you gotta you gotta chill. You gotta take some rest. No one ever says that. They're like, well, that's a great opportunity You should you should do it and you're like, well, that's a great opportunity. I should do it And when I was younger, I could do all that stuff and I look back at schedules and stuff. I did I'm like, how did I do all this? I can't do it anymore at this age. It's it's a different thing and and I'm married now It's like I've been away from my wife a lot and it's it's not I don't feel nice about it sometimes and well look I have a suggestion that help you relax go watch good fortune Go to you go with your wife. Go. I'm not even joking. Go sit and watch it You know, like it you guys will laugh. You'll get to spend some time together. It's good. I do know it's out October 17th I do want to remind everybody about that Yeah, thank you I feel lucky you get to be in London one of my favorite musicians James Blake lives over there. Durma Kennedy is a is a um, he's in the United Kingdom. He's a guy that I really love Who uh, who actually is coming in town soon? Um, yeah, I would love to get to live over this sometimes people feel very People it's nice. You're a little bit. I mean you probably feel this here too. Like you're a little bit away from the circus Oh, yeah, I feel totally good and the circus is dissolved the circus is it's a different thing You don't really need to be there anymore. They're finding new places. There's new mini circuses popping up Yeah, yeah, but then but yeah, but is national becoming a circus. No, I don't think so not too much It still feels kind of small. There's a lot of people moving here and a lot of stuff going on But it still feels pretty small. No, I mean, I feel like that in London that I'm away from things whenever I go back to la I start feeling like oh my god. I'm falling behind. I need to do this because you hear about it. Oh, I've just made this I'm working on I'm like, oh shit. What am I doing? I'm not doing anything. You've done so much, dude I mean from all from television to Um, I don't get that series I watched for laws on Netflix. It was just you. Yeah. Yeah. That was master in on Yeah, yeah, um the book that you wrote. I know about dating like struggling of love Yeah, um, you've done enough. You've done. Let me tell you this if nobody ever tells you you've done enough No, but finishing the movie was a big deal And I'm glad I did it because it took a minute to get it done and and I'm really proud of it and proud of the work that I did and my whole team did all the actors did and I'd love to make more. But yeah, I definitely I hear you and um, It's you've done a lot. That's what I mean. I didn't mean enough. I didn't mean no No, no, I know you mean it. I appreciate it. Yeah, and I think uh Yeah, and your sister would be so proud of you. What was her name again? I want to say one more time Nafis. Yeah, it's such a pretty name. How do you spell it? NAF easy Ooh, nafis um, I'm so glad we we talked about that because I I feel like I'm here with some people that work with me and they're like, wait, what? Because I think when we say people's names out loud people that have been a part of our lives Like even when we're talking about like if you wanted to say something to lucian I think when when when we say people's names they feel that wherever they are that is a felt thing Because otherwise, why would we feel it? You know, it's it's bringing their it's it's putting them in the Yeah, and I believe it's like Yeah, I believe they feel it wherever they are. They feel it, you know I think you definitely if you're here for this long you definitely keep an anchor locked in I mean the other person I was going to mention and tell me we can we if you I don't want you to run late for whatever But the other person I was thinking of when I was talking about lucian was have you ever heard of mani that ran the comedy seller? Mani Dormund was the owner of the comedy cellar his son nomes there now Um, but he oh, yeah, no gnome. Yeah. Yeah, so nomes dad is mani. Okay first time I ever did comedy was uh At the comedy cellar they had a they had a new talent night, which doesn't even exist anymore Now they just have like fucking 10 comedy sellers and 10 shows like but this was like back in the day They had a new talent night at like six o'clock and you'd bring like a couple of friends and they'd give you stage time and I did that and I was 18 years old summer of my freshman year in college Didn't do good. I did well my material was terrible But I did well because I was very comfortable on stage and public speaking and I was just kind of funny and it worked and And I came back and did it again And I did a couple of open mics and you know had a reality check like oh fuck this is really hard and then The third time I did stand up third time. I ever did stand up was again at the comedy cellar and It was one of these new talent nights and I For some reason this crowd and me it just it I was didn't go well. No, no went Super well all your stories in a bit that go good And and they went nuts and I like said something at the end I was like oh by the way like whatever we perform where we have to bring a certain number of friends I'm I'm I'm I'm running out of friends So if you want to come like come see say hi backstage and or whatever, you know And and I was just being serious and they're they were all just losing it and manning saw this and he said like You're yeah, there's many and he goes you're he basically came up and it was like some old Hollywood thing He was like you're ready for the big room. I done stand up like three times. There's no way I was ready to perform at the hardest comedy and this is like comedy cellar where it's like a tell Geraldo Jim Norton. He's like you're ready for the big room and uh, and so I would show up there and and uh They would put me on late at night almost like a late night They would and it was like really odd because I probably I shouldn't have been doing it I was just so green and I was doing it and eventually you know esti Esti who's the you know famously runs a comedy cellar passes comics. She's like, okay Let's you go on and I went on and she was like, yeah, you can't be performing here Yeah, she's like you can't be it can't be doing this. She's fucking tough Oh, yeah, she's so tough. She's like you can't you can't be doing this. You're not ready and I was like, okay and and then um, you know now again one of the you know Amy mass gray garden whatever like this to me is the coolest thing Is that I can perform at the comedy cellar and just drop in and they'll just let me do material Yeah, and and perform and then the crowd Goes nuts and knows who I am. That's the craziest thing to me. That's crazy. That's like kind of above everything else and my biggest dream I've told people is like that I'm just like 90 years old and I drop into the comedy cellar and maybe a couple of people knew I am but that I'm able to fucking hold my own but anyway I I was there at the comedy cellar one night and me and esti were talking about this and she was like, you know man mani saw you Whenever you were really young and and he must be up there smiling now seeing all you've done and Yeah, that uh, that made me smile and um, I I wasn't super super close with mani, but um, but he was another guy Before lusion oddly even saw me in this That's something what's a reminder. I think for anybody that has a has been in a field for a while of when you take a moment to Connect with somebody that's just coming into it, you know that it could have an effect You know, that's a nice reminder It means the world to him and you don't realize because I think we're all like We're all in our own head and don't realize I mean, yeah, especially when you're young There's one person having to believe like oh good job. Just little things like that and I'm still grateful It reminded me that neil brennan and amy schumer are the ones that helped me get past at the comedy cellar Oh, wow, and I've only performed there like probably six seven times maybe ten But I walked in the other night and I was so nervous like you want to go I was like no way. I'm not freaking going up, dude But I think some of that's just places you used to be in you know, so um, aziz. I gotta go man Thank you so much. Oh man. This was such a great conversation I I um, I really enjoyed it and and we talked about so many interesting things and um And and really some some heavy stuff, but I thought it was great and I'm so glad we had the opportunity to do it I appreciate it man. I think it's exciting that you get to live in london and have a new experience It sounds like you've had a lot of unique experiences and that's like That's such a gift, you know, um God's had a lot of grace it seems like in your whole just like ability to Be creative and like man. Thank you for sharing that with us. Oh, thanks, man Thank you for having me you bet and best of luck with the film dude out out october 17th. So this week, I think and uh All right, everybody be good. Thanks so much I can feel it