Flashback Friday | #484: A Letter From Uncle Ted
64 min
•Apr 10, 20269 days agoSummary
Host Charlie Robinson examines Ted Kaczynski's life, MKUltra torture at Harvard, and his manifesto critiquing industrial society and technology's role in suppressing human freedom. Robinson argues Kaczynski's analysis of technological control and leftist ideology was logically sound despite his violent methods, while contextualizing his actions within documented CIA mind-control experiments.
Insights
- Kaczynski's critique of industrial society as inherently freedom-restricting and unfixable remains relevant to modern concerns about technological control and surveillance
- MKUltra experimentation at Harvard under Dr. Henry Murray likely contributed to Kaczynski's psychological deterioration, raising questions about state responsibility for his actions
- The distinction between Kaczynski's valid observations about technology's societal impact and his violent methods illustrates the challenge of addressing systemic problems through conventional channels
- Modern mental health crises, social media depression, and low self-esteem align with Kaczynski's 1995 predictions about technology's psychological effects on populations
- Leftist ideology's dependence on state solutions and inability to recognize systemic unfixability creates perpetual cycles of failed reform efforts
Trends
Growing public skepticism toward technological progress and its psychological/social costsRenewed interest in critiques of industrial society and technological determinism among alternative media audiencesConcerns about transhumanism as rebranded eugenics and legal implications of human genetic modificationRecognition of state-sponsored mind control programs' long-term societal impactsIncreasing awareness of how automation and AI may render large populations economically redundantDistrust of institutional narratives around figures labeled 'domestic terrorists' or 'unhinged'Examination of how collectivist ideologies perpetuate state dependency rather than challenging systemic structures
Topics
Ted Kaczynski's life and MKUltra experimentation at HarvardIndustrial Society and Its Future manifesto analysisTechnology's role in suppressing human freedom and autonomyTranshumanism as eugenics rebrandingLeftist ideology and collectivism critiqueMental health crisis connection to technological advancementState-sponsored mind control programs (MKUltra)Automation and economic redundancy of human laborGenetic manipulation legal frameworksMedia narrative control and domestic terrorism framingNatural frameworks vs. industrial systemsReform vs. revolution in addressing systemic problemsSocial media and smartphone psychological effectsTechnocracy and centralized decision-makingStrategy of tension and intelligence agency operations
Companies
World Economic Forum
Referenced as promoting fourth industrial revolution and transhumanism agenda aligned with Kaczynski's predictions
Google
Cited for covertly adding microphones to Nest thermostats without user disclosure
Facebook
Discussed as example of social media technology creating depression and low self-esteem through comparison
Apple
Steve Jobs mentioned as hesitant about giving iPad technology to children due to unknown effects
Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
Named as foundation funding research without regard to human welfare
Hewlett Foundation
Listed among foundations funding research agendas
United Nations
Mentioned as organization involved in research funding and global agendas
Harvard University
Site of MKUltra experiments conducted by Dr. Henry Murray on Ted Kaczynski and other undergraduates
FBI
Described as largest domestic terrorist organization; pursued Kaczynski but characterized as ineffective
CIA
Successor to OSS; involved in MKUltra program and Timothy Leary's drug testing at Harvard
People
Ted Kaczynski
Subject of episode; MKUltra victim who wrote Industrial Society manifesto and mailed bombs 1978-1995
Charlie Robinson
Episode host analyzing Kaczynski's life, manifesto, and MKUltra experimentation
Dr. Henry Murray
Conducted MKUltra experiments on Kaczynski and 21 other undergraduates from 1959-1962
Timothy Leary
CIA-affiliated researcher testing LSD and drugs at Harvard during Kaczynski's time there
Tony Auerbern
Sponsor representative for precious metals IRA/401K conversion services
David Avocado Wolfe
Sponsor offering health supplements and products; promotes alternative health approaches
Steve Jobs
Referenced as hesitant about giving iPad technology to children due to unknown effects
Yuri Bezmenov
Soviet KGB defector cited for observations about leftist ideology and eventual disposal of useful idiots
Quotes
"The industrial revolution has radically altered man's environment and way of life. And it is only to be expected that as technology is increasingly applied to the human body and mind, man himself will be altered as radically as his environment and way of life have been."
Ted Kaczynski•Industrial Society and Its Future manifesto
"It is no indictment of true health to be well adjusted in an insane world"
Charlie Robinson•Mid-episode analysis
"You can't have your cake and eat it too"
Ted Kaczynski•Phrase that led to his identification and capture
"Science marches on blindly without regard to the real welfare of the human race or to any other standard, obedient only to the psychological needs of the scientists and of the government officials and corporate executives who provide the funds for research."
Ted Kaczynski•Industrial Society manifesto
"The leftist is anti-individualistic pro-collectivist. He wants society to solve everyone's problems for them, satisfy everyone's needs for them, take care of them."
Ted Kaczynski•Manifesto analysis section
Full Transcript
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And I like to think I've done a pretty good job curating the sponsors. I mean, they're selling products and items and services and supplements that do the things they're supposed to do. So thanks to the sponsors, both old and new, but let's party, right? Well, this episode is going to be a little bit of fun. I mean, you know, to the extent that like Uncle Ted told us, this was going to happen. I mean, we, we were told nobody can go into this light. Nobody can sit down at the dinner table tonight and say, I can't believe any of this stuff is how I can't believe it's as crazy as it is. You should believe, you should have known that this is the direction it was going. It sounds insane when some guy who's mailing bombs to people has written a manifesto about the dangers of technology. I can totally understand why the average person would be dismissive of what this man had to say in his manifesto. I get it. Especially if you were somebody that was on the periphery and it was harmed in some way by this, you clearly would have no interest in what this guy was saying. He would just be an unhinged lunatic mailing bombs to people who's got an axe to grind in some vendetta against society and he's going to take it out on them in weird random sort of domestic, terroristic kind of ways, right? That's the way that the Unabomber was, was sold to the American public. He, somebody's out there. He's a crazy person and he's mailing bombs to people because he's mad at society. Okay. I mean, I had no reason to think otherwise. I remember when they were looking for him. I remember when the sketch was out there. I remember when it was a big deal. I mean, it wasn't like an, in terms of like day to day lies, it didn't really matter for this guy to be like, FBI's most wanted. I could think of guys that I'm more alarmed about than the Unabomber. I didn't get on his radar. I wasn't doing anything wrong. I wasn't worried about him mailing me a bomb. I don't know that I'd have him in my top 10 biggest threats to humanity. I'd put a bunch of people from Congress on that list first. They're far more dangerous than Ted Kaczynski. I assure you. But what I wanted to do is take a look at this because we don't talk about Ted enough as we should. And of course, look, I don't agree with random violence like this. I don't think that that is the answer. I understand it doesn't solve things. If you're blowing up the mail delivery guy, you're not getting back at the system. You're just being an asshole. So to the extent that random uninvolved people were hurt, I'm most definitely against that, whether it's just in general. But let's not forget about, Uncle Ted had a point to all of this too. He didn't just wake up one day and have an idea. This was a process. And when we dig into the history of what this guy went through and his story, he was predisposed to live this life. In fact, it's a wonder that more of the people that went through the things that he went through didn't turn into this. Well, we'll get into his past, but I think it's important for us to sort of dig in and find out who Ted Kaczynski was, why he did the things he did, was he manipulated, was he traumatized a bit? Oh, oh yeah. Oh, this guy, this was no accident. This was no random occurrence. This guy was targeted. And the outcome of this should have been expected. In fact, it probably was expected. In fact, that's the reason why it happened. So let's get into this. Ted Kaczynski, American mathematician and domestic terrorist. That's how they'll describe him if you look him up on Wikipedia. Trill, he was an American mathematician and he was a technically a domestic terrorist. He's also a number one, you know, he was a best-selling author. I don't know if his book went to number one. I'm pretty sure it did. He was born in 1942. He went to Harvard and he has a degree in mathematics. He got a PhD in mathematics as well. I'm not at Harvard elsewhere, but he was a smart guy who had a deep history, you know, a hardcore background in academics and mathematics and science. He understood this. He, this was his, you have to understand the mentality of somebody that thinks like a mathematician. There's a certain logic to the way that their brain works. And boy, it's tough to be a logical person living in an illogical world, especially when you come to understand as Ted did, that very powerful people have a vested interest in making sure that the world remains illogical because it's how they operate. And for somebody like Ted Kaczynski, who sees a problem and finds a solution to it, when you look at society, sometimes the solution for what we were going through isn't in a textbook. And there isn't necessarily one answer. Like there is in mathematics, of course, if you were using Common Core, the answer is whatever you think it should be. And that's stunning and brave as we know. But in real mathematics, like the kind that Ted Kaczynski was involved in, there's one answer and one answer to the problem, right? But in his world, there really wasn't. There were a lot of people that let him down along the way. And part of the reason why he became the person that he was in the end was because of his early childhood and the trauma that he was put through and the person that he was turned into weaponized and then unleashed onto the world with these thoughts in his head and a scrambled brain. In the end, he wound up murdering three people and injuring 23 between the years of 1978 and 1995. And there was a lot of, you know, look, he wasn't wrong on the writings. He might come across as a bit of a Luddite, you know, maybe borderline Amish, somebody that wished for the good old days when, you know, but I think that that is on some levels that's normal, especially if things have gotten progressively worse, there's a tendency to remember how it used to be and how the world used to function and that it didn't need to be, everybody didn't need to be in such a big hurry. You know, the world went and got itself in a big hurry, like Brooks says in Shoshank Redemption, when he comes out of prison after being in there for 50 years, right? The world has gone and got itself in a big hurry. And I think that that was something that was a little difficult for Ted Kaczynski to process because he knew the dangers of where technology can take you. And he wanted to explain it to people in a way that they could understand, but it's almost like the train has left the station, where on, you know, everyone that's on it is looking for progress. They're not looking for reasons to not progress. They're looking for an option to move into the next phase of this. And when you're somebody that has a desire to prevent that, you're gonna be pushing uphill all your life because progress is happening. And if you're somebody that's sort of against progress, and even if your statements and reasoning and logic for not wanting to progress are valid and logical and reasonable and correct, it's still gonna be an uphill battle. And I think part of that is what Ted faced, is that he could stand on a street corner and scream into the sky, be careful of technology and nobody's gonna listen to him. But I think that a lot of us that work in information in an industry where information is unusual, we all experienced that, that you can go stand on the street corner and yell into the sky and nobody will listen to you. In part because the screaming in the sky comes across as unhinged and crazy, just as mailing bombs to people comes across as unhinged and crazy or writing manifestos. I was writing the Octopus of Global Control one day, like in total secret, and I was on a bender, I was right. My wife had kind of like locked sort of in the room or sort of by it and saw me, like had asked me a question or something and I guess I hadn't been paying attention because I was just extremely focused. And she said to me, are you working on a manifesto over there? And I was like, I am not working on a manifesto. And then as it got like, as I got further in the process, I was like, I kind of am working on a manifesto. If I think about it, I was like, at first I was pretty offended by that comment. And then I was like, well, what is the difference between me writing a 225,000 word octopus of global control manifesto and Ted Kaczynski writing a 35,000 word unabomber manifesto? You know, I guess there are some differences there. But I mean, the point is that sometimes it takes a little while to unpack these thoughts and you kind of need to put it out in writing and it's not as simple as a three minute conversation on Conan O'Brien's couch or a five minute conversation on 60 minutes that gets edited down or whatever. Sometimes you need the ability to unpack complicated and difficult concepts. And so the idea of putting together a 35,000 word manifesto is not completely out of the question. In fact, it's an interesting read. I think people should probably check it out and see if you're interested. Here's a little something, what I'll do is I'll bring some quotes from it. This is from Uncle Ted himself. The industrial revolution has radically altered man's environment and way of life. And it is only to be expected that as technology is increasingly applied to the human body and mind, man himself will be altered as radically as his environment and way of life have been. Interesting to use Ted's words in conjunction with what we're experiencing with the World Economic Forum and their push for a fourth industrial revolution in the transhumanism agenda, which as we know is the rebranding of eugenics. But it is the blending of man with machine to become something that is transhuman. And as Ted talked about here, as technology is increasingly applied to the human body and mind, man himself will be altered as radically as his environment. So as we make these changes to technology, human beings are impacted by this and forever and will be as the technology increases and human beings choose to use the technology, they have no choice but to be changed. Now, maybe somebody would want to push back against Ted and say, change, but maybe for the better. And of course there is that argument to be made of the guy who loses his arm in a farming accident and gets a robotic arm put on and now he's able to drive the tractor again with his right arm being a robot arm. And they'll do that story in 60 minutes and they'll talk about transhumanism as a savior and isn't this amazing and isn't this technology lifesaving and all that stuff is true. Of course, that's only part of it. It's only part of the transhumanism story. And so of course they're going to sell the benefits of that and those amazing stories of how this technology has been used in an amazing way to give human beings a second chance at something, right? And you can take that narrative and sell this forever. And that's what they'll do. But they're not going to talk about the concerns that Ted rightly had about what happens when man himself is altered. And that is a genie that gets out of the bottle and you cannot put it back in as he rightly explains in this manifesto that once you start to do that, there's no going back. And it's beyond, you create something that is beyond human being. Something we've talked about the legal ramifications of maybe being considered transhuman that you don't are no longer one deviation less human. And therefore laws don't apply to you, property rights don't apply to you, freedom of speech doesn't apply to you, whatever, everything doesn't, nothing applied. You have as many rights as your cat has, right? So this is something to consider as well. It's not just the trajectory of what this does to human beings on a physical or mental level. What does it do to human beings legally as well? That's a slippery slope that I don't hear anybody talking about with regard to transhumanism. And I don't know that Ted was caught up necessarily in the legality of it all because this is a guy who liked to mail bombs to people to blow them up. So the idea that it's just, he came at this from the aspect of what will this do to a human being? And that's a great place to come at this question from. And when you understand what happened to Ted when he was going through college, all of this is gonna make sense. I assure you, we'll get to that a little bit. But do you guys remember the Unabomber, hoodie, sunglasses guy? You remember the sketch, the logo, it was a whole vibe. It still is, man. I walked into a Halloween party one time. This was back in my honkies era where we were all, we did this on several definitions where we were an all white 70s basketball team called the honkies and we had uniforms made. The whole thing, it was sweet. We had an Asian guy on the team, which was hilarious and hard to explain. But I went to this party one time and I remember this dude's costume was perfect because it was costume plus behavior. And I kind of in the living room and walking around the court and there was a dude who was intentionally standing in the corner and he was dressed like the Unabomber at a hood on, he had sunglasses. I remember looking at him and I was like, what is that guy's fucking outfit? And I was like, oh shit, oh my God, that rules. He wins. So we thought that was, listen, it was everywhere. It was kind of like, I'll tell you what, when everyone was out looking for the Unabomber with the hoodie and the sunglasses and the cool hair and he looked like a guy that might, he looked like a guy that might throw for 300 yards and three touchdowns or he looked like a guy that might be living out of his van. You really couldn't tell cause he had a little, but that was, that also brings you back to a time before technology, right? Before everybody had cell phones, before everybody had social media and all of that. And it was an interesting time to be paying attention when you were looking for the Unabomber, right? He's like, well, are we ever gonna find him? Like, well, if he looks like this sketch, if we found him, I'd go have beers with him. I don't know what to tell you. He looked like a pretty alright guy to me, but what he was into, ultimately what he was into was he was interested in fighting against industrialization. And given what we've seen over the last, well, when he started this fight, he was 78 was when he started mailing things. So what are we talking about here? 50 years almost. I mean, there's been a lot to be upset about with regard to the industrialization, the destruction of nature, all in the name of progress, right? And that was something that irritated him was that, well, well, we're gonna make how much of this progress is gonna come at the expense of the planet. So he was kind of a lefty in the sense that he was cared about the environment, but he cared about the environment from an actual standpoint, not a let's measure carbon dioxide, anthropogenic carbon emissions that are only generated by man. We're gonna really focus on that sliver of the environment. He just wanted people to not be impacted, negatively impacted by technology, human beings. And as a result, he also wanted nature to not be impacted by, I mean, there's, I see nothing wrong with this. I understand again, it's the process by which he got his point across was not great, but here's the but. It worked in the end. It got his message out there. So the ends justified the means in some regard. I mean, you also have to put this through his lens. This is a guy who's watched the government who has a monopoly on terrorism, use terrorism to get their way over and over and over and over again. And in his mind, a mind that had been shattered by the state through all kinds of horrific experiments that we'll get to, it's not a stretch to understand why he would say, the state uses terrorism to get their point across, I can use terrorism to get mine. It's not an illogical jump. It might be immoral to do this, but again, you're going to have to put yourself in his shoes to understand why he felt the way he felt about state and the state of technological advancements and who was pushing that. Now, the FBI, yes, we know, it's funny now, looking back on these things because we now have a better understanding of what the FBI is, that it is the largest domestic terrorist organization operating inside America. And when you know that they're the actual terrorists, then a lot of this stuff makes more sense too, because when you go back and you look and the FBI had him, he was on their radar, you know, he was on it, just couldn't catch him. And he just slipped through our fingertips. But he was on our radar, he was known to the FBI. Oh, really he was known to the FBI. I wonder why he was known to the FBI. They had him classified as the university and airline bomber. And that was, they took the, how much everybody loves these fucking acronyms, right? So they took the letters, university, UN, and airline A, U-N-A-B-O-M. So they took the first two letters of university, they took, they left the word and out, they took the first letter of airline, and they took the first three letters of bomber, and combined them together to get U-N-A-B-O-M, the unabomb, and then the media grabbed ahold of that and just started calling him the unabomber, registered trademark. I wonder if he gets a, I wonder if he trademarked it. That would have been funny. That would have been the ultimate like FU on technology. I trademarked it too, so I get paid. The CDC would bring him in to advise them since they love the idea of owning patents and licensing on vaccines. The CDC would love what he had done there. Well, okay, so he was on, like I mentioned, 78 to 95 was when he was in, that was his playing career. And he finally got arrested in 1996, and it was a huge deal. I don't know if you remember, if you've ever seen the footage, it was, I mean, they really made him seem super crazy to the general public, as the media does. It was the perp walk, with the crazy hair and the beards, and he was living in the woods, in a cabin with no running water, and all the things. It was like the checklist of what an insane person who's checked out of society would do. He was all of those things, at least according to the media. Now, in reality, he might not have been all of those things, but it doesn't matter, because that's the sales pitch that the media has. He looked the party. I mean, he was straight out of central casting in terms of like crazy guys who would ultimately be caught mailing bombs. I mean, he blinded me with science. So they just pulled it right out of the hair and beard and the disheveled look. I mean, he looked like Saddam Hussein, they were pulling him out of a spider hole somewhere. You know what I mean? I had that look on his face, like you caught me, but I got you first. And the media just really went to town on this, and hijacked the narrative. And ultimately he wound up getting arrested in 96, pleading guilty in 98 to everything. He got multiple life sentences without parole. He got sent to ADX Florence and lived there from 98 until summer of last year, 2023, where he was announced that he had died of suicide and that he had been diagnosed with cancer two years earlier and died of suicide. I mean, I think at this point, there wasn't really much going on. In terms of like, did they suicide him like Epstein? Probably not. I mean, you know, at that point he's been in there. He's not doing anything to anybody. And I don't think there's anything nefarious about his suicide. If in fact it was a suicide, I would, I have no reason to think it was anything other than that. But how would I know? Right? I just don't know. I don't think that, I mean, I know that it's tempting. When somebody commits suicide in prison, it's tempting to just immediately say they were murdered by somebody else. And I think a lot of times that is the case, but I don't know that there was justification or a need for this. His best known work, though, so what people know him the most for, of course, is Unabomber's Manifesto. But its official title is not that. It is Industrial Society and Its Future. And what we're gonna do is we're gonna get into it a little bit. We're gonna get into the Unabomber's Manifesto and we're gonna ask the question, was he crazy or was he onto something here? You know, maybe a little of both. I mean, definitely mailing bombs is not the best idea, but his take on the direction that society is heading with regard to injecting technology into it is not off base. It's just a matter of timing. How long something like this would take to play out and he might be wrong in some of the details, but overall, his line of thinking is surprisingly logical and laid out for somebody who would be considered to be crazy. Now, the system that we live in is crazy. And there's the old adage that it is no, you know, I'll paraphrase it here, but it's no indictment of true health to be well adjusted in an insane world like this. I mean, there is something honest about feeling a bit crazy in this world because it is crazy. There are things that are being made to happen that are incompatible with how you would behave if you were living in a sane and rational society and pointing this out does not make you crazy for noticing it. In fact, it makes it, if anything, I think the criticism should be on those that don't notice it anymore, that have lived in this world for so long, have intentionally blinded themselves to the insanity out there that they don't even see it anymore. Well, Ted Kaczynski saw it and he wasn't going to pretend like he didn't see it. Okay, he talked about, so this was written in 1995. Okay, and for me, this is an easy benchmark in my life to understand when he was writing this and where I was in my life. In 1995, I had just graduated from college. I was in the last college class to graduate without an email address. Everybody after me had email started. Everybody got email addresses right after that. So I'm thinking about Ted sitting down in 95 and writing this and thinking to myself now in retrospect, 30 years almost after the fact, it's like, you would love to have told Ted, like you have no idea how much worse it's going to get. Like just wait till social media come. Just wait till everybody has a camera, a video camera in their pocket at all times. It's going to be wild. So I especially connect with this manifesto simply because, well, not just because of the content of it, but also because of the timing of the content. I know where I was in relation to this, we're in relation to where I was going to be with my life or where I was just kind of getting started and reading how Ted viewed the technology of what was to come is fascinating to me. He believed that this system suppresses and limits human freedom inherently. That the system itself destroys and suppresses humans, the freedom that humans have. Simply by deciding to live inside this system, you will do so at the expense of giving away your freedoms, some of your freedoms, and that will be a sliding scale. So he also believed that because this system, due to the nature of its design, that it suppressed unlimited human freedom, he continued that it, because of that, that means it cannot be changed or fixed. That it is not a feature, not a bug, but a feature of the system. That if things are happening in a way that you find to be uncomfortable or that you don't like, it's too late. You can't change it, it's the system. It's the way this thing was set up. And so he said, it can't be fixed and it can't be changed. Oh, and on top of that, over time, it will continue to get worse, not because you want it to or not because somebody doesn't want it to. Again, it goes back to the way the system was designed, that in industrial society, simply by becoming and making the decision to be an industrial society, that action limits human freedom. And when you choose to do that and you run this scenario long enough, over time, it will get worse. And it will only get worse. It will not get better and you will not be able to fix it. So sleep tight. That's me paraphrasing 35,000 words. So I mean, read it, go through and read it, have your own experience with the information and you may get something different out of it. But the decision-making process for humanity has been intentionally limited in the interest of making the whole system work smoothly. So you don't get 31 flavors of ice cream, you get three, but you get three because we need the system to work better. And there used to be a time when you would get 31 flavors, but the system didn't work as well. In the interest of making sure that the system works, we've pared down your choices from 31 to three, but the system's gonna work. And so this is what he's talking about when you start making these calculations. And because you are a part of the system and because you have decided that you are okay with the 31 flavors of ice cream no longer being available to you, but now only three because you're in an industrial society that chooses to make sure that we've got a streamline process and we can only do three because that's what we've decided. What he's saying is that you compromise yourself by participating in the system. You have no choice but to compromise yourself because the system compromises your decision-making process. Fascinating ways of looking at this. And he says, you know, sorry, freedom has been removed for your safety. Dangerous freedom has been removed. And whenever they remove your freedom from you, they have to give you a reason for it. And a lot of times the reason is what the Germans gave in World War II, it's for your safety, it's for your protection. Everybody wants to be protected, right? They don't want something to be there that's not for their protection or not for their safety. So if you need them to do something that you don't, that they probably don't wanna do, something that works, operates against their own self-interest, tell them that it is, in fact, for their safety and you can get people to do it for you. And he knew this. And he also noticed something else about this is that people will notice that they are compromising themselves and it will impact them and lead them to depression, low self-esteem and inferiority complexes. He was very concerned with low self-esteem. It gets mentioned more than once. And again, I'm gonna wrap with the trauma he went through, but you can't help but feel sympathetic for a guy once you know what he was put through to understand that he would be somebody who is extremely sensitive to low self-esteem and depression and inferiority, feelings of inferiority. But the system is the source of the problems and the system cannot be changed. And so, you know, so now go deal and process that. Go live your slave life understanding that. You were born into a system and the system is the source of the problems. The system leads to feelings of depression and low self-esteem and feelings of inferiority. The system will make you feel that way. And the system was put there intentionally and the system cannot be changed. And what he's saying is that once you have that realization and you have to process that mentally, that you're in a system that you can't fix and can't get out of and can't change it, what does that do to you psychologically? He said it leads to some real dangerous mental health outcomes. I ask you, do we not have a dangerous mental health crisis happening in the world in general, in America in particular? I would say we do. Is it technology connected? I'm not gonna say it's all technology's fault, but it does technology have a role in this mental health? I would say so. I would say smartphones, social media and things like that all play a role. Sometimes beneficial for people, of course, that, you know, again, back to, there are benefits to these things. They wouldn't exist if there weren't, but there's a downside and there's a downside to people that, you know, like you could get on Facebook and reconnect with friends that you haven't seen in a long time and your relationship with Facebook is much different than somebody else's who's on their doom scrolling all day long, making themselves feel bad about the fact that they don't have this family or they don't have this life that these other people have or why isn't this happening to me? And they have a much different experience with social media. They go home and wanna kill themselves, you understand? So again, this is where Ted was coming from this. He noticed that these feelings from increases in technology would lead to depression and issues with self-esteem and he was correct in his assessment. But when you're screaming about this in 1995, when people are walking around with a Walkman, with a cassette tape in it, it's kinda hard to tell, it convinced the world that technology is gonna kill you because it doesn't seem dangerous at that moment. It doesn't seem that way in 1995. You might have had a pager in 1995, but you didn't have the threat of a pager exploding. So things were different and technology was different. And if Ted felt the way he felt about it back then, he would have had to have been institutionalized for paying attention to the modern world. And of course he was institutionalized in more ways than one. He talks about revolution, not reform. He's very clear on that too. He said, this is no half measures. You can't vote your way out of this technocracy. He was correct in this assessment too. He was very clear. You're not gonna be able to talk your way out of it. You're not gonna be able to vote your way out of it. You're walking into a huge mess. Technological societies also have issues with drugs and alcohol and mental health. That was, he was noticing that. That is, do you ever hear about the, when Steve Jobs was developing the iPad, it was pretty early on. And I'd love to find this information. Maybe I could find a clip where he says it or something. But I remember that he was very hesitant to give the iPad technology to his child, or children, I think. I don't know if it was his child. I think he was talking about children in general. That there was, that there was, that it was like, this is great. This iPad's gonna do X, Y and Z and all this stuff. And they talked about it for use with kids. And he was kind of like, I don't know if I'd give it to kids right away. There's something to it. There's something in this technology that people who create it know more about it than the end consumer. There's technology, there's blue light technology in there. There's a lot of stuff going on that has mind control properties to it. And there's patents involved in this technology. There's a lot, there's a lot more behind this. So when you hear Ted Kaczynski go on and on about technology, he's not wrong when you understand how this technology gets made and some of the hidden components of it. I mean, again, it's sometimes it's the technology, sometimes it's the company behind the technology because like there's nothing inherently evil about microphones, but it's a huge problem when Google covertly adds microphones to the Nest thermostats and doesn't tell you that's a problem with the technology. When they do things like that and it's hidden and it's devious and it's done intentionally. So, you know, Ted was extremely concerned about this, rightly so. So, but again, when you read this manifesto, you have to remember this is written by somebody who went through serious, serious mind control programs in his college years. And he gets a pass on some of this stuff because if you were tortured the way he was, you'd feel you'd have unusual thoughts as well. He had a problem with gangs and militias, but he really hated and left us. Again, he knew what was going on. He might have been a crazy old man living out in the woods, typing up these manifestos and sending them to the press and sending bombs. And you can say that he was all those things and because he was, but again, he was not wrong. He was not wrong about the direction technology is going and he certainly wasn't wrong about his take on leftists. And this collectivist philosophy is poisers. It's mind poison. It's not helpful. It's not, oh, I wanna make sure everybody's taken care of and everybody gets fed and everybody has a place to sleep. That's fine. That breaks down after 200 to 300 people in the tribe. After that, you cannot maintain that. So the ideas of like collectivism is, these are ideas that are from people who don't have good ideas. It's not a good idea. It's not the real communism hasn't been tried. Real communism has led to a hundred million dead people just by the state. So enough of that. When Ted has problems with technology, he's right. And when he had problems with leftists and collectivism, he's right on that too. And he goes on to explain that they just cannot be a part of Uncle Ted's band. There's no room for them. There's no room for them moving forward in society because he said, one of the things he said is, if they give you a list of demands and you meet their list of demands, they will come up with a new list of demands. And that they will always be complaining about something. They're always bitching about something. You could say, well, we, you know, you've got to treat the black man better. You've got to do this. You've got to do, you've got to pay reparations. And you go, fine, fine, fine, fine. We'll keep you all that stuff. You pay reparations, you know what's coming? You know what's coming a year later? Reparations to electric boogaloo. That's what's coming. And then reparations three, the sequel to that, because it's never going to end. And he, he points this out. He talked about, he said that he had a problem with globalism and leftism. Again, I can almost feel the audience nodding in agreement, like, okay, let him cook. Go on, go on about this. He was talking about how globalism depends on technology, just like leftism. He said that the leftists depend on technology and that it would, you could kill two psychopathic death cults at the same time, basically end technology and shut down the lefties kind of all at once, right? This is, he said, this is from Ted. The leftist is anti-individualistic pro-collectivist. He wants society to solve everyone's problems for them, satisfy everyone's needs for them, take care of them. And he's right, that's what the leftists want. They want the state to solve all the problems. The state is the problem. Do you understand, you, I don't, I don't understand why they can't make the connection, but the state is never going to solve everybody's problems for them. It's not their job to do that. In fact, the state exists to create problems. The state only exists because there are enough problems that the people demand that somebody be there to help out. They say, please do something and they outsource that to the state. The state creates these problems. They're certainly not going to be there to fix it. This is the problem that people fall into when they get into, when they take universal basic income, or they take welfare or anything like this. It's a trap, it's a trap. If you think the state is there to solve your problems, this, to give you money to fix your problems, the state exists by taking money from other people. So it's taking money from other people to, to give to leftists and pro-collectivist people. And what he's saying is that they just want the state to satisfy everyone's needs for them. That's unrealistic, that doesn't happen. They're not anchored in logic and reality. This is why the people that come out there and they go, everybody's ideas should be heard. And I jump up and say, no, your ideas are fucking stupid. They don't deserve to be heard. They were heard a long time ago and everyone said they were stupid then. This is called progress. This is where we move on. We don't sit around and talk about how we're going to try communism again. Stop doing that, you fucking idiots, read a book. Can you read? 19% of Americans can't. So I would probably guess that most of the leftists can't read either. Well, they'll figure it out one way or another because much like Yuri Besmanov said, Uncle Ted said the same thing. Once you are no longer needed, you will be put up against the wall and disposed of. They hate, this is the thing about, this is what he was talking about with leftists. He was, he was saying that they, they hate and envy you in your success. Any successes that you have, leftists will hate that. So you have to understand, they believe that in order for you to succeed, it had to have been the result of you oppressing somebody else. They see this as a zero sum game. Either if I am going to gain, that means it came at the expense of somebody else. Leftists, brains don't work correctly. They can't conceptualize working together with somebody to make something that's greater than the sum of its parts. They can't, cause they're not builders. They're destroyers. They don't think like that. They don't understand that. So to a leftist, the idea of you are successful, you must be successful because you were, because you did something bad to somebody else. You're, so you can only be successful because you can only achieve something because you were bad to somebody else. The truth is those who can do, those who can't become leftists, you're just a loser and a failure. And the reason why you can't conceptualize somebody having success is because you are unsuccessful and you will always be unsuccessful. As long as you think that everybody else got there from by cheating some people. Now, to be fair, some people did and we see those. Those are the leftists that go into politics. Those are your own people that you're concerned about. So when you understand the mindset that Ted was angry against, not just the technology side, but the leftism side, was that you understand that these people think that the only way to succeed is by oppressing somebody else. This is stupid people logic. This is dumb people logic. And this is what made Ted so insane that he started mailing bombs to people. No, that he just, it's frustrating. I get it. It's frustrating to deal with these people because the leftists are making arguments that don't work and passing them off as logic and reason. Anybody that has a functioning brain takes a look at it and goes, this is stupid. You just can't comprehend working together. If the idea is that these are leftist ideologies, the state is there to solve everybody's problems. And if you have more than somebody else, you must have taken it from them because there's no possible way that you could actually be better at doing something than somebody else. The only explanation for your success is that you cheated. Not that you worked hard, not that you're smarter, not that you hustled, not that you have talent, not that you care, not that you invested in education, not that you tried, not that you went home early and got up early and did all the things. No, no, no, no, none of that stuff. That's all magical fairy does to just happen to you because you're lucky. That's what they think. They think that none of that. So this is why leftists don't understand. This is, I'm about to start sending bombs to people. This is fucking me. He's so fired up. Leftists, what he discovered correctly is that leftists hate strong, good, successful people because they are known to be weak, evil losers who only exist to try to bring other people down. And he's right. He's right. That's what they do. They are the crabs in the crab bucket. And if you hang out with crabs, you will get crabs. You know what I'm saying? This is it. He also hated leftists because they inserted themselves into causes, proclaiming to be saviors. It's so true. This again, he goes back to his point of that they always have to have problems to solve. There's always some injustice that they're out there trying to fix, right? They're not actually fixing it because like as he said, it's the system. The system isn't fixable. So they can go out there and try to fix the problems that the system created, but they're never gonna get anywhere with it. That's one of the reasons why he had such little respect for them, because he was like, you're too stupid to understand that you're out here trying to fix this problem that the problem is created by the system and the system isn't changing. You're over here trying to convince some tree, an apple tree to start growing lemons. It's not gonna work. So he said, the real problems with leftists according to Ted was that they, this is an interesting take. Again, I said that he's genius in his angles here. He said the real problem with leftists, and of course he mentions a bunch of other problems with him, but one of the things that the real problem at their core was that they don't actually oppose society. That's the interesting thing. He said, no, no, no, the leftists don't oppose society. Quite the opposite. They wanna make society, quote, better. They wanna make society better. They believe in serving society, not dismantling it. They think society should take care of them. They don't want society to go away. They're depending on society to take care of them because they can't take care of themselves because they're too stupid and they don't understand the game. So they need society. They need the state to save them. Though they'll run their flags and say, we need to change, we need to end the patriarchy, and we need to end the police scene, we need to do all that stuff. That's bullshit. They're too stupid to know that they don't want any of that. What they really want is the system to be reinforced. They just want it to go the way they want it to go. They just want their people to be in charge of it, but they're not anti-state. I'm anti-state. They're pro-state. They want the state to serve them. That's the difference. And that's again, part of the reason why Ted had zero respect for these people. Why would you? He was talking about how the natural world provided society with a stable and predictable framework. And that when you allow nature to provide the stable and predictable framework, you're good. When you move outside of that framework that nature provided, that's when you get into things like frustration and anger and defeatism and depression and low self-esteem as a society. And you get individualistically too, right? Individuals all feel that way, but you get enough individuals together and you've got a collective, right? You've got society. And if you've got enough people that are going against as Ted, what Ted considered to be the predictable framework that's provided to society by nature, once you get on the wrong side of that, he said, you're in a system that can't be fixed and a system that will progressively get worse. Again, it's an industrialized system and just think of an industrial machine that the longer you run it, it gets worse and worse and worse until it eventually just falls apart. So this is a clip from the manifesto. Science marches on blindly without regard to the real welfare of the human race or to any other standard, obedient only to the psychological needs of the scientists and of the government officials and corporate executives who provide the funds for research. Don't forget the foundations, Ted. Don't forget about the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the United Nations and the Hewlett Foundation and all these groups. Don't forget about them, Uncle Ted. So going on here, it says that in, he's talking about industrial societies restricting freedoms, all right? And how it just is in their nature to do so. He says it has no choice, but to restrict and regulate human behavior. He felt that freedom and technological progress were incompatible with one another. But if you had too much progress on the technological side of things, you would wind up having a deficit of freedom. And very interesting take of his 30 years ago, right on cue, maybe even more so than a lot of people that are working out there today. But he had concerns not only about, well, he had concerns about genetic manipulation. He had major concerns about the future of that. But what was interesting was that he was, he also understood that it wasn't just a problem with the science behind genetic manipulation, but the eventual laws about genetic manipulation and who is and isn't allowed to have access to it. So he talked about the legality behind genetic manipulation and what that can of worms looks like. I mentioned being one deviation less human and finding out at some point in the future, maybe, that a lawyer has, maybe you're, I don't know, maybe you're on trial for murder or something and you've got an attorney who wants, and you're guilty as hell, right? And your attorney wants to try out a new defense and says, you know, because you've taken the mRNA technology that you are one deviation less human and therefore none of these laws apply to you and that you should be allowed to walk out of the courtroom free man because you're not a human being and you're no more subject to these laws than a dog would be. Think about that. I'm sure Ted did. I'm sure Ted thought about that recently. He wanted to, he actually kind of came at this. His feelings on the technocracy was a little bit like clower and piven that strategy. Well, if this is gonna happen, then let's overwhelm the system and break it so that we can reimagine it a different way. And he wanted to heighten social stress to encourage a total breakdown of the system or at least a pre-weakening of the system. And he thought that a tech society would eventually let machines decide most things with a smaller group of people at the top deciding what those machines think. Again, world economic forum. Does it sound similar? I mean, is the small group of people at the top with a tech society letting machines make decisions on most things or we're definitely going there if we're not there already. The problem is one of the things he said is that, and he's right, that the people will consider everyone else redundant when these jobs are automated. You don't need to work at McDonald's when there are robots flipping burgers because robots don't miss the bus or forget to come in or whatever. Have to be paid overtime or healthcare or any of those things. So there's a lot of, from a business standpoint, automation, you have to consider it, especially if you're a fast food, let's say you own fast food restaurants in California and you are already struggling at $16 an hour for minimum wage, basically like a human robot, come in here, I need you to sweep up and flip burgers and do all this stuff, but at $16 an hour, that wasn't gonna make a whole lot of sense, it was just barely, but at $20 mandatory now in California, maybe you go to, maybe robots are in, maybe you go to robots, that's the key. So was Ted wrong? Not really, he thought a tech society would let machines do most things with a small group of people at the top. The problem is when you've got a small group of people at the top and they realize that there's a large group of people that they've just made them irrelevant because the things that they used to do in exchange for money, a computer or a robot can now do it in exchange for nothing, they're gonna, I know how these people think, I read their writings, the next step is they're gonna say, well, if these people aren't doing anything, then let's get rid of them. So this is the early stages to a push towards depopulation, eugenics through transhumanism. Transhumanism is eugenics, it is just the new brand name, the fancy, futuristic name for eugenics. So the Washington Post, just so you guys know, the Washington Post published the Unimarmers manifesto on September 19th, 1995, it made him world famous. Do you know what sunk him? Do you know what ultimately led to him getting caught? It was an interesting slip up and his brother's wife noticed it, FBI claims they noticed it too, but I don't know. There was a line in there, the old sort of euphemism, whatever they're saying, have your cake and eat it too. She used a line in the manifesto where he said, you can't have your cake and eat it too. And what stuck with the reader, was that it was this terminology, his brother's wife had said, I think this is your brother doing this. And he's like, why do you say that? And he's like, because the wording in this thing is some of the same wording he's used around us. And they looked into it and they're like, I think you're right. And it turned out they were right. That there were certain little phrases, very specific unique writing style. That's what wound up sinking him in the end. Let's wrap up with this, because I told you that I was gonna tell you that he was, he was put through the ringer. He really was. He, Ted Kaczynski was put through MKUltra. And that is part of the reason why he turned out the way he did. From the fall of 1959 until the spring of 1962, Dr. Henry Murray, director, Harvard Psychological Clinic, formerly of the OSS, which later became the CIA. He did something. He used 22 Harvard undergrads, including Ted Kaczynski, in experiments testing the limits of extreme stress on the human mind. I guess they found his limit. They used a variety of methods on him. Timothy Leary was also at Harvard in 1960, testing drugs, Timothy Leary of the CIA. They messed with this guy until he reacted. They weaponized Ted Kaczynski in college. They broke his mind through MKUltra and LSD, and they shattered him. And then they used him. They broke him and then they used him. Because here's the thing, if this guy goes off into the woods and decides that he wants to start mailing bombs to people randomly, we can use that. That's not a bad thing for the intelligence agencies. They're fine with that. You can put them on the FBI's most haunted list. They don't give a shit. That's the strategy of tension, man. The fact that bombs may be going off, that's used to keep everybody a little destabilized. That's fine. You need to know that there's crazy people out there that may put a bomb in your mail. So it's the reason why, okay, again, it's not to excuse away his actions, of course. When you're building bombs and mailing them to people, you're doing the wrong thing. If you're building bombs and mailing them to the people who did this to your mind, well, then you're probably justified. Still illegal, you'll still go to prison for it. But I would have a little bit more respect if the bombs were being mailed to Dr. Henry Murray or Dr. Timothy Leary or any of these guys who were involved in torturing you. I wouldn't question you sending a bomb to them later. I wouldn't, that would make sense to me. But some random guy who had did nothing to you, I don't like that. I don't think that's not how you get things done. I mean, that's not how you, that's how you come out of this as the bad guy. And Ted Kaczynski, after the media got done with him, he got the treatment, man. He got the, they pinned everything on him. Like lunatic living by himself in the woods in a cabin with no running water, no electricity, building bombs, mad scientist, all that stuff. I mean, you know, that's America, baby. That's what the media loves that stuff, right? To this idea that it's just some guy out there. He could be anywhere. He could be out in the woods. He could be your next-door neighbor. Have you checked in on your next-door neighbor? What is he doing? He's writing a manifesto. Have you seen him writing a manifesto? Maybe, probably. So again, this is part of the creep of technology, technology, the impending digital prison that's being built along around us. It's real, you know? The creeping technology is real. And Ted thought we had lost our way. I don't know. 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