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Try it, compare it against other cognacs, and you'll see. LaPortier is the best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Charles Oliveira defeated Max Holloway via unanimous decision. The rematch was not the bond burner that many people expected. It was a decade. Oliveira got hurt in the first fight, I think it was 2015-2016. but Oliveira went from losing a lightweight title to winning the BMF title the following year. Oliveira entered the fight as the underdog, then landed takedowns at Will. The crowd, which has signed up for blood, both of these guys got dynamite in their hand, and both of them, I'm looking at the BMF, Ocho. I understand the objective is to win, but when you say you the baddest mofo on the paint, you got to let them hands go. That's not what we got tonight. It started booing. Oliveira didn't change the course. Every time Holloway get a couple of punches on him, he get close. He couldn't stop to take down. Oliveira take him down and basically stayed in the mounted guard or the side guard for the remainder of the round. And it was a unanimous decision. It was a boring fight. That's not what I expected. I expected to see these things let go. And both landed a couple of punches. But clearly, Charles Oliveira had enough. He said, look, I'm coming to win the fight. Damn what y'all expect. I can assure you Dana White is not happy. before I let you go Ocho thank you Dana White thank you UFC for getting us the tickets to come to the nice fight we greatly greatly appreciate that can't thank you enough go ahead Ocho um obviously listen I was expecting a really good fight um I heard uh Cormier say uh the fans that were booing they were casuals how could you not appreciate the dominance that Olivera uh showed obviously on the ground and grappling being that's what he's best at uh if not the best one of the best in UFC right now at the ground game. You have two different fighting styles. You have two fighters. One is really good at fighting and grappling on the ground. You have one that's a phenomenal striker, one of the better strikers in the UFC, Max Holloway. And he refused to give Max any type of leverage, any type of room to do just that. I thought Max would have had a better game playing seeing after round one okay he's not going to allow me to strike i'm going to have to be on the move every time i'm going to have to be on my bicycle not going straight back but unleashing max is a volume puncher get a few punches out either swing to the right or swing to the left but every time he's come straight back all he does is he stayed close olivera stayed close he would throw a kick and get him to react and then go low and take him down to the ground and shoot him down Oh, he did it five rounds straight five rounds three rounds straight. It's almost like every round Got there. Max Holloway was on his back Three minutes of the goddamn round and he couldn't he couldn't get him off. He had no and he had no answer to get him off Uh, he started the full the full guard didn't went to the side and side guard It really didn't matter. I think the thing is Ocho It's just like a lot of people thought that the bmf and you see when holloway and guys they throw with when Masvidal had the belt, throw hands. That's what people were expecting. I understand, look, we understand the situation where you're not the baddest mofo. That belt means something. It's a little different. It's like we're in a three-point competition. We're in a, like, okay, the first to 20, and we're supposed to be shooting threes, and you shoot layups. I get it. You won the game, but damn, that's not what the fans came to see. That's not what the fans came to see. Also, Unky, but you have to understand, as a fighter, what do I do best? That's how I have to win. That's like, got one guy. I'm going to do what I do best while neutralizing what you do best. Bingo. And listen, he had a great game plan going into it. I'm not going. I cannot throw with you. I cannot sit in the pocket. I cannot sit at range and go blow for blow with Max. That is his strength. That's what he does extremely well. What does he not do well? Ground game. I know I can win there. And Olivares, obviously the bigger man. He was huge. He was huge. He was much bigger than tonight. I would have liked to see Max. I know he wants to stand there. He wants to show that he can sit there and exchange punches and throw in volume. But he needed a different game plan tonight, especially after round one, seeing what Oliveira wanted to do as far as just taking him down and smothering most of the punches. And, I mean, listen, I'm sure those that are enthusiasts, you know, they appreciate the fight and the dominance from Oliveira. for those that were looking for a knockout and wanted to see a war. Yeah, I think that's what they wanted to see, Ocho. And I think the mistake that Max Holloway made, he fell into the trap that, you know what, Olivera's going to come throw hands. The BMS, we're the baddest mofos on the planet. It ain't going to be no – it's not going to go to the cards. I don't want it to go to the cards. Right, right. We decided. Right. And the thing is, I'm not so sure that he practiced defending the takedown. Right. Because it looked like he had no answer. Now, he tried like rounds four and rounds three and four. He tried it for as long as he could. But Oliveira still, boom, got to be. And he couldn't. And that's the thing. Once they find out you can't start to take and you can't snuff out the takedown, what are you going to do? And you can't get him up? He get on top of you and you can't get him up. You can't get off the ground for four minutes. and I mean each round was like three and a half four minutes just just ride just ride ride ride ride I'm like damn and the funny thing lady sitting next to us like oh get off him I was like ma'am I don't think that's gonna happen unless you can get him up off it and the funny thing about it you have to understand also when someone's on top of you you know for that long you know how much energy you're exerting trying to get him up off you yes and um not only that Chris Oliveira beat Max holloway at his game when he when they were standing up for the few times they did exchange hell he landed 79 percent of his punches leading up into the punches his strikes leading up into the goddamn fourth round so he dominated not only standing up striking but he dominated him on the ground too so max really had no had no answer i would i would i would have hoped for a different game plan i'm sure it's going to be a trilogy i'm sure that they got to fight they got to fight again. Right. You know, but Danny goes and look at man. I ain't paying y'all no money to come back there and lay on the ground. Hey, I come to see. I come to turn the light out of the building. That's why you get the prize. You get fight of the night and you get knockout of night and they get 25 $50,000 because that's what the fans want to see. Man, hey, they will boo your ass. Hey, look, you could a you could give them three two rounds right nonstop action Ocho. Yeah, but I tell you what get your ass in the clench. It don't do nothing for like 10 seconds, 15 seconds. Woo, boo. I was like, well, damn. They just gave you 10 and a half minutes of nonstop action. But those fans want to see blood. They want to see knockouts. They want to see somebody looking up at T-Mobile, somebody looking up at UFC. That's what they want. I'm just telling you. I'm not going to say I'm Joe Rogan or Daniel Cromay, but I've been to enough of those fights. I know what the fans want to see, and they want to see blood. And what was that movie with Daniel Day-Lewis? There will be blood. There will be blood. That's what those fans want to see. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. But I thought, look, Olivera, they look good. I mean, I thought it was a – I'm trying to think. The guy got knocked out. The brother got knocked out. I was like, damn, bro. Michael Johnson. Yeah, Ocho. I watched that fight. He got the fake with the right. That left came out of nowhere. Boom. Yep. I mean, listen. Michael Johnson was doing really well up until that point, too. He was. The Falcons was doing really well. They was up 28-3. They were doing really well until they weren't. Right. And that is the thing about a fight. You can be doing really well. You can be leading round one, round five, round 10. Yeah. And then somebody throws a shot that you don't see. And it's over. You know what? At that level, when it comes to the elite, when it comes to the best of the best, obviously in the UFC and boxing as well, everybody has a puncher's chance. Yes. Everybody has a puncher's chance. Them light-ass gloves? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. You damn near bare knuckle, to be honest. Them only four-ounce gloves. Basically, yep. So, basically, you got an isotone on your hand. That's basically it's over you here so like I said, man, he hit on the jaw. Yeah, just like to do that was one punch Rodriguez went straight down the pipe wow he was done Do a do switch to southpaw and as soon as we switch the southpaw Shaka the rap The rap and he was looking at he and he and him hit him again. Oh, he could have yeah Because you see a lot of times they hit him and then they come with a big boom. He's like, nah, I'm good. I'm going to let you live to see another day. But just know I had something for you. Yeah. I mean, that's messed up. And you got to be careful, too. All that switching stances, when you do that, if you're comfortable at one stance, you know where you're vulnerable. If you're going to switch to Southpaw or you're doing unorthodox, you got to know where your weaknesses are. Yes. And obviously switching like that, I know it's cool to be able to do it, but you don't understand. You had a disadvantage in certain areas. And the thing is, if you're not used to, first of all, there are very few men that fight Orthodox can jump into a Southpaw stand. You're not Bud Crawford. There are very few. Stay in your Orthodox and make that work. So what you did, you made yourself vulnerable. Yeah. yeah and I'm like bro yeah it's crazy it's crazy but I was I am not gonna lie Ocho considering cause even the fight before that that was action I mean nobody got knocked out or got submitted but there was action and I was like oh man Oliveira Holloway oh yeah oh yeah yeah yeah somebody you thought you gonna get something nice huh fireworks the doctor's coming in the ring and somebody gonna put ice on somebody back you are right you know you know where you are they're gonna be asking a bunch of questions that's what i was expecting in the holloway olivera fight yeah we didn't get that nah congratulations olivera uh he won the fight um i'm not so look when you go back if you study fighting most great fighters came from very impoverished conditions you look at that you look at those brazilians yes they come from the favela oh yeah oh yeah you look at a guy like Conor McGregor, he from the streets of Ireland. You look at the Russians. They ain't getting no college scholarship. They got to fight. And so when you come up having to fight, you know how to fight. Yes, sir. I'm not saying it hasn't happened, but for the most part, when you look at fighters, boxers, UFC, whatever the case may be, look at their background. Yeah. I guarantee you, they ain't come from no silver spoon. You know what's funny, huh? And it's not just UFC. You think about football. Everyone has a story. Everyone has a background. Yes. Most of them, depending on a high percentage, soccer players. You know, I mean, basketball. Yes. That's our ticket out. That is our way out. Yeah. Ain't too many two-car, three-car, four-car, car, garage. He was in a fight. Yeah. Very small. No, no, no, no. You ain't getting in that sport. That ain't no sport. if you had a nice, cushy life that you get into. Right. Unless you just got the love fighting. Not with no four-car garage, I'm going up, I don't love it that much. A three-car? Hell, a single-car garage. Somebody, hey, garage? Park that damn car, put it in the shade tree. Get out, walk in the house. It wasn't no garage. You ever been to Brazil? You ever been to the Fabellas? I have not been to the Fabellas. Man. it's that's how i i've seen you know obviously seen documentaries of it and see how it was uh um and they tell the story how michael jackson wanted to film yeah i don't really know about it they don't really care about us yeah i think that was the name of the song yeah and and uh the the government wouldn't you couldn't get clearance he had to get permission he had to get permission from the date. Yeah, we got it. Yeah. Ain't nobody a nobody's the safest man. He was the safest man in Brazil. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. But like I said, you look at you look at Khabib and you look at the Dagestan from Russia and you look at the April when you got a you got a empty stomach or empty back pocket pocket and a broken heart You fight your You fight your ass off Yeah You fight your ass off but like i said i know i would have expected um olivera put on the clinic oh joe i know you want to see us throw for 500 yards but they can't stop the run right there you go that's what i tell them all the time bro i promise you if y'all stop td we'll throw the ball but if you don't stop td he getting five six seven yards of carry, what's the incentive that we have to throw it? You can't stop. We can just turn around and hand it to him, and he getting 15, 20 yards a clip. So what's the incentive for us to drop back to throw it, where your ball might get tipped, somebody might miss a protection, and get John hit in the back of the head? Now, also tonight, for those that are watching, those that wanted to see fireworks, the only way we would have gotten fireworks, if Max Holloway had a counter for being taken down if you were able to stop being taken down then we could make it we're gonna we can make it a fight we got to stand up now now we got the throw but he had no answer for it well the thing is he's got he's got to be able to snuff the takedown once he couldn't snuff that so what was his counter he couldn't get he couldn't fight off he couldn't get off the ground he couldn't get off his back no once that once once olivera got him on the mat yeah he could not get up for the rest to the fight. So if he took him down with three and a half minutes, he took him down with four minutes. The fight stayed on the mat for the final three and a half, four minutes. The whole time, yeah. I'm sure that's not how he wanted it to end. I can assure you probably Max Holloway would probably prefer to have been knocked out than to have it end like this. Probably so. Either that or submit it. But hell. Yeah. I thought he tried. He tried. I thought he had it in the At first, he couldn't get it deep enough. Yeah, his defense was very good. His defense on the ground was very good. You know, he took a few shots on the ground, but as far as being able to maneuver and using his hands really well to make sure he wasn't submitted, he did it really well. And it's, for one, for us to be saying what we wanted to see, but actually being in there and having a fight is two different things. It's two different things, you know, when you're under fire. So us saying this is what you should have done, you know, but. Yes. He sees us for saying because we ain't in here. Ocho, what do fans say when they lose a game? You should have been running it. You should have blitzed. You should have did this. It's easy to say that after the fact. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. Give Olivera his credit. He the BMF. And so it's going to be interesting to see what's next on his card. I was just going to ask you that. What's next? So he's in 155. So that's what? Lightweight? What about, what about, what does Ilya fight at? Ilya might be 155. That'd be a good one. Hey, now he definitely got dynamite in his hands. He definitely got dynamite in his hands. Yeah, that'd be a good one. As long as he got it. I mean, I'm sure Ilya, I don't know much about Ilya's style And what he does I mean is he good is he good at the ground game that I know we can strike I ain't never seen him. Uh I think didn't Elia not uh, hold on. So somebody knocked Olivera out Who knocked him out somebody knocked him out? Was it vocal? Now Elia Elia can fight he let them hands go. I was hope you know that I was hoping forget I was hoping for chat I was hoping for him Max Holloway and Olivera because he said if you call me to Olivera said if you call me to the center I'm going to come and we're going to let these hands fly so I was hoping well hold on he called him to the center with 20 seconds of going to the goddamn fight he let him get up obviously when they got off the ground he caught him again Olivera caught him again yeah Elia knocked out Olivera Jose Day Ford already. Okay, okay. I know somebody had knocked him out. I mean, he got hands. No, he really, really, really, really got hands. Oh, yeah. But I'm trying to think who is the fight that people want to see. I mean, they introduced a card that's going to be at the White House that's going to fight on June 14th. I don't know what it's called. America 250 is the celebrating anniversary of a, uh, uh, I'm not, I'm not sure. I'm not sure, uh, what they're going to call this card. I know it's the celebration of, uh, the, uh, America birthday of 250 years, but it's going to be, it's going to be, you know, uh, Gaethje and Tempur fight. Uh, that's the, that's the main event, right? That's the main event. Uh, uh, Piedra and Cyril gone fight. So they got, they got a nice card. I was, I was hoping to see John Jones on there. Is it too late? It's too late, huh? Yeah, it's too late. They don't set the card now. Damn. They got it. They don't set the card. I think the thing is, the plus, the last thing you want to have happen is something, you know, they said Johnny and then Johnny F the card up. Right, right. I think Dana, I think Dana's like, you know what? Let's go with the sure thing. Yes, sir. We know these guys are going to be where they're supposed to be and do it. This is the biggest night in podcasting. The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. 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I mean, he was, I mean, every punch he throws, he throws with the intent of knocking somebody out. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Every last one of them. And he, like, he's a big dude because as we were leaving, he was in the hallway. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I understand he made weight at, what, 180? 185 and 186. But after refuel, you're probably 195, close to two. Easy. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, look, I think the thing is we kind of get spoiled because there's something about a knockout. It's like boxing. Now, if you give me 10 rounds, 12 rounds of nonstop action, I can live with that but man that don't want his clinching in boxing you clinch again and nah the men's battleweight Raul Rojas Jr. defeated Rob Font by unanimous decision the 21 year Rojas was dominant recording 16 takedowns on his way to the biggest victory in his young career the matchup was a big step up in competition for the youngest fighter in the UFC has ever signed. He's likely to be ranked, come back Monday, and took another positive step toward his goal of breaking John Jones' record as the youngest champion in UFC history. If I'm not mistaken, I think John was, what, 21? He looked good. He looked good. I mean, he just... I'm like, bro... I mean, he... But Rojas was big. That man tall as hell. Yeah, very tall. Hell, yeah. He a big-ass lightweight, a battleweight. Damn. I mean, he tall, though. I was like, damn. Oh, Jon Jones was 23 years, 243 days old. Hey, Jon is the truth, man. Man, man. He's the truth. i would i would i would love that that would have been that would have been white house card is already stacked it's already nice everybody yeah yeah but just having john joe was a part of that white house card i think it would have been special but here's the thing who was who was gonna fight he wanted to fight pieta who's fighting god uh zero gone right i think the thing that they wanted to have happen at an earlier time was him fighting what's the what's the the guy that got hurt he got his eye gals and I forget his name but that's the guy they wanted that's the fight that Dana wanted to have. Tom Aspinall Tom Aspinall that's the fight that but then when you look at it and you look at how he was fighting against and John Joe's like is that the guy that y'all thought could beat me? Did y'all see how I ran through him? Yeah. And y'all thought that guy could beat me. Piazza, I mean, bro, a three-division champ, something they've never had. But he big, man, dog. I mean, he – I mean. What's your name? What's your name anyway? What, two something? Well, I mean, 185, 205, and you can't be more than 265 as a heavyweight. Okay. so I mean for him to uh to get down to 185 he was killing himself to get down to 185 because he's a big man he's a big man would I be surprised that he walked around at 220 nope I wouldn't I would not be surprised I would not be surprised if he walked around at 220 it's gonna be an interesting fight God is getting better he's getting better yeah you you're going You going to the White House card? I don't know. I don't know. Man, you know, everything's going to be so damn expensive in D.C., Ocho. But hold on. Wait a minute, man. Not for you. You just went to the fight tonight. The fight ain't at the hotel? The fight ain't at the flights? I mean, a flight to D.C., that ain't nothing. But you can get a flight for like $150. Okay, I don't know. They didn't get your ticket. so boom that that that knocks everything out hotels man them hotels man they they rake you over the coals you never tried extended stay you ever been there before yeah extended stay got kitchen refrigerator i want my i want my kitchen to be uh i want my kitchen to be downstairs and to bring it up to my room that's what i want that's why i want my kitchen i'm just trying to you places that's very that's inexpensive you know quick or maybe an airbnb you probably you get off cheaper with that no i don't want to be i don't want to sleep in nobody else house i don't i don't oh oh yeah lightweight drew dober uh defeated michael johnson via ko punch 153 around two Gregory Rodriguez defeated Bruno Fiatta Be a knockout One punch 147 Round one I just think the thing is like UFC has gotten people spoiled so much Because you know dynamite Good things normally happen Ocho Somebody normally goes to sleep Somebody gets choked out Rear necked, guillotined, arm bar Something, submit Something happens That you're like damn That must have been pretty bad You made somebody tap out I made somebody call you uncle. Because I would tap out there. Say uncle. Call me uncle. And I'll let you go. But also, you know what else people have to remember, too? When it comes to better fighters, when it comes to the fighters that are a little bit more skilled, a little bit more technical, you know, the margin for error is very small. Yes. You can get slept. Or you can get submitted. So that most of the time, they're very careful on when they take their chances and that they're safe. I mean tonight you saw in the last fight you know what I'm going to play it safe I'm going to do what he doesn't do well I'm going to take the crown and that's how I'm going to win the fight whether people boo or not that was Olivera's plan yes it was and you want me to change it make me change it but why change it when it's working like I said he came to win I know what the BMF stand for you slug it out and guys that have held that belt, they slugged it out and knocked somebody out. But that was not Charles Oliveira's plan. His plan was to take as little punishment as possible, take it to the mat, and knowing Holloway, that's not what Holloway's good at, getting off his back and getting back to the center of the ring, that wasn't what he was good at. And it showed at night. He was shut out. I wouldn't have had him winning one round. No. Not one. He got dominated for five rounds. Yeah. Yeah. and I was like and even the last round he ended up getting guard and somehow what you call him ended up taking it right back yeah even when they got back up they got back up he took him right back down yeah probably the most interesting fight of the preliminary card with Kobe Gabhart against Zhao Young via unanimous decision several low blows in round three The second one literally vomited in a bucket before the point was deducted from his opponent. Zhao Long lost another point when he landed the knee in the clinch below the belt soon after. I mean, man, he was killing that man, man. And the thing, you all saw the reaction on his face, I'll show you like, yeah, you did that, bro. I'm sorry, you got it. You got it. Yes, he got to be more about one of them. He got him straight with his toe. I'm talking about, you know Normally try to kick with the side because you don't want to break down. Yeah, he kicked right. Oh my goodness. Yeah You know they give you they give you five minutes And he was like obviously you don't want to take that kind of because people like oh, you take that long It hurt that bad You ain never been hit there Yeah if you if you have never been hit in your private Yeah Oh it hurt It hurt now Let a kick What? Man, stop playing. It hurt. Man, you feel like you can't breathe. Somebody got a bag over your head. And every time you try to take a breath, they put another bag over your head. Man, that thing hurts so bad. Yes, it does. but we had fun I had fun I had fun tonight got an opportunity I was in the lounge I got there too early I got to do a better job timing it you was there for a long time before the fight even started huh no no no no I thought we was getting there I was like okay we getting there next time I ain't leaving my house until about 7 I want to see the last I want to see the last four fights that's it so you was early like we was for the Bud and Canelo yeah not quite that early not quite that early yeah we were early that boy yeah man never again never no more as a matter of fact I might be arriving Bud might need them walking to the ring I'm gonna be walking in when they walking to the ring Ocho what you do tonight oh man but you know i'm back in houston again what man i'm back in houston again man listen a certain individual i don't want to say the names chat y'all stay with me real quick a certain individual called me um you know not panicking but hoping i could do them a favor okay i say well cool i could do you a favor so i asked what you need me to do he say i need you to be an efficient to my wedding did i say that right an official efficient tent efficient to my wedding i don't know what an efficient is efficient efficient okay there it is oh yeah yeah that okay an efficient i'm sorry i'm sorry yeah so you're gonna official you're gonna officiate the wedding i was officiating the wedding so i said of course i'll come down um just give me a flight give me a room and and and i'll be an officiant for your wedding oh i flew to houston i landed today this was short notice now you hit me two days ago right boom one day goes by i fly in a day i had a flight nine o'clock this morning i landed when it got fitted for a tuxedo uh had them size everything you know together and whatever whatever boom i missed rehearsal on friday so i had my script. I had to memorize as much as I could. Got it there, you know, and by the powers invested in me, I now announce you, you know, you may kiss, you know, and I did my first wedding. So now that people in the chat, you're now open. As you can see right there, chat, I'm licensed. I'm an ordained minister, and And I'm a brother of the cloth, as I like to call it. I'm a brother of the cloth now. So anybody, you know, anybody getting married and you need me to officiate your wedding? Officiate. Officiate? Yes. The actual process of you officiated. Right. Like an official. Right. Okay. Officiate. There it is. But listen, anybody is looking for someone to officiate their wedding, their nuptials or whatever. you want to renew your vows i can do that as well um also i'm i i extend my services also for divorces as well you know so i'm here you know how to reach me i'll have a link in my bio by tomorrow and um yeah i'm i'm excited didn't have isn't the rodeo going on in houston yeah yeah rodeo rodeo going on yeah rodeo going on now no no well it's it's storm and raining it's storm and I ain't go there. It's raining? Yeah, it was raining bad. Yeah, yeah. Nah, nah. Rodeo and rain don't go together. Mud? Nah, that mud, yeah. Yeah. It was raining bad. But, hey. But I can imagine. They had some boots on. Bootsin'. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure they had there. I'm sure they had there. Yeah. But I said my baby with me, so I wouldn't pay no mind. Yeah, yeah. I don't blame you. I don't blame you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ain't nothing to look at. Hey, hey. Right here. Ton of vision, huh? Yeah. You know, like a horse in a Kentucky Derby. I have my blast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I only see one way, straight ahead. That's it. That's all you do. You know. That'd be that thing. Where your eyes going, boy? This is the biggest night in podcasting. The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. Live from South by Southwest, March 16th, We'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. I'm Daniel Jeremiah. And I'm Greg Rosenthal. 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The Ravens acquired Max Crosby from the Raiders in exchange for two first-round picks, one in 2026, the 14th pick in 2026, and a first-round pick in 2027. Crosby, 28, a five-time Pro Bowler, will be a game-changer for the Ravens. He has 69 and a half sacks since 2019. It's more than double that anyone has produced for Baltimore over that span. Nnamdi Matabuik leads the Ravens with 30 sacks since 2019. Ocho, do you believe this makes the Ravens contenders? You know what? I want you to look back to, I don't have the stats in front of me. when it comes to the Baltimore Ravens defense since Lamar has gotten there they've had some very good defenses they've had some very good defenses they've been normally ranked high with the addition of Matt Crosby he does improve them defensively yes he does does it make them contenders I can't say because I think the onus in them being contenders is really based on what Lamar Jackson does in the postseason. I think because they've had great defenses before and offensively they sputtered when it mattered most. You know, as a team collectively. Yes. Don't mention that. Let's not talk about that. Let's focus on the defense. I don't want the chat jumping in there. We're jumping on this right here. Let's talk about the defense. Crosby. A lot of teams were stepping up. You know, you hear some teams were off in the first and the second maybe a first or second and another pick uh uh maybe the first this year and the second and a later round pick but it was the ravens and the thing is like hold on we saw mic micah with the two first rounders and a player yes but do you want it but don't you yeah but micah's a little bit younger now not a little bit maybe a lot a lot bit 26 to 28 okay i mean hey that means a lot especially when it comes to business especially when it comes to picks especially when it comes the money oh you you know how to own this thing yes i do to us oh what's two years but to them it's a lot because they think about miles wear and tear all all the all this stuff but max crosby brings something that the ravens need very badly especially on the defense the end of the ball and now i feel bad for my quarterback because my quarterback he has to deal with Hold on now Twice a year he got to deal with Miles Garrett Twice a year he has to deal with TJ Watt Now you bring This Animal One of the better defensive players in the NFL One of the better defensive ends in the NFL To the goddamn Ravens Now you got to deal with Like come on man I think the thing that I like So much about Max Crosby Is that he's a two way player He plays the run and he plays the pass he kind of reminds me he doesn't rush the quarterback like this guy does but I think he played the run better than this guy's did Jared Allen remember Jared Allen started with Kansas City and then he goes to Minnesota Mr. Calf Roping he kind of reminds me of him but he plays the run better than Allen but he can't get after the quarterback Allen was If people don't, Alec can just flat out get after your quarterback. Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited for the Ravens. This is going to be good for them. So, I don't know. I don't know what you guys are doing. Help me understand, you guys. Okay. You had Trey Hendricks. Somebody said, you know what, they tried to make a trade for him last year. You hold on to him. Yeah. Now you let him go for it and say you get nothing. Nothing for him. Yeah. Yeah. What sense does that make, Ocho? If you know you're not going to sign him back, Ocho, you got to let him go. I've got to trade you and get something for you. Yeah, yeah, while there's value there. Yes! You let the man walk, and his value wasn't going to get any higher. He's coming off back-to-back 17 sacks and 17 and a half sacks. Back-to-back. He's all pro. So his value is not going to get any higher. you know you're not about to give this man three four years at 100 plus million dollars that's not that's not what you guys do right especially at the age of 30 31 that's not what you do cincinnati but you let it walk out the door and now you get nothing for it yeah that's crazy that's great i don't understand i've been and i don't want to rush the judgment just yet draft is coming all season acquisitions you know trades still are going to be made so i'm curious to see what moves That ain't what y'all do, Ocho. When was the last time the Bengals traded? Hey, listen. Hey, number nine put that pressure on. Yes. It's not about what we've never done. It's about what we need to do because number nine already sent that message out loud and clear last year. Loud and clear. I know. But I tell you what. You know the Browns, Katie Blackburn, as well as anybody. They do what the hell they want to do. They do. They do. But also what they've never had is they've never had a quarterback that's this young who comes from winning. Everywhere he's been, he's done one thing, and he's won. And he wants to make sure that winning is the same exact thing that they want to do in Cincinnati. No, they want to make money. You need to continue to make certain moves that aligns exactly with what Joe Burrow believes in. the bingos want to make money yeah yeah i think i think let me ask my thing is if i can make money by spending as little as possible i choose that yeah you gotta spend money to be competitive yeah you do you just do you do because guess what the other teams around you are spending money and it's already hard to get people you got to pay to get someone to come to you in free agency you've got to overpay because to get them to leave that situation that they're currently in where they built up they built they're probably ingratiating themselves in the community you know the wife is probably there the kids are there so things are you know you you already ingratiated yourself in that surrounding so to get me to leave that and to uproot my family, you're going to have to pay a premium. And, infrangeously, everybody knows you're going to have to overpay. You just do. That's why, why you think a beer costs $40 of the damn game? Where else you going to get it from? You can't run to the local corner store or the package shop and get it. Yeah, you're right. You want a beer to watch the game? Okay, well, pay $40. damn so in free agency these guys know well if you want me to come you got to pay because guess what if you don't write down the road wheel yeah absolutely we need help bad though you do over the last five years Ocho Baltimore has blown an NFL worst 16 leads in the final five minutes of game that's five more than any other team. Last season, the Ravens failed to hold two double digit leads in the fourth quarter. Remember, Buffalo and New England. Yes. Now one, look, that one against New England with Derrick Henry's running the football and all of a sudden, you know, we got a system in place. You know, Derrick, it was the other... They took him out, stopped handing the ball all to him. I don't know what that was about. Still don't make any sense to me. makes no sense to me at all. But, hey, what do we know, Ocho? What do we know? And then, lo and behold, they go out there and then they play Green Bay. And they just hand the ball to him and he just runs wild. Went crazy. The second leading rusher. Think about this. The second leading rusher. Wow. When you try to – that's what you do, Ocho. You go double tight. and you say, guess what? In the four-minute drill, y'all not getting the ball back. All right, D, hey, this is why we got you. And you going to put a scat back in there? And you got a 250-pound bulldozer? Yeah. Hold on. A 250-pound bulldozer that nobody wants to tackle. No! Once he gets those pads going north, man, it's hell to deal with. Don't nobody want none of that. I don't get it. Like I said, everything is not for me to get, Chad. But I think the thing is, Chad, I don't think you guys got it either. I don't want to hear nothing because I'm trying to win a game. Sometimes when you're trying to win a game, you're like, okay, I know how it's supposed to go. I know it's supposed to be your time up, but your time will come next week. But it ain't going to come now. Right. Because Derrick Henry is going to get this ball. That's who's going to get the ball. and that's what that's why that's why we tore his contract up and gave him more coming off the first season that he had he had over 1900 yards and so and he came back this year and almost had 1600 so derrick henry had plenty of tread on the tire I ain worried about it Look here I don care if he don play but another year I'm going to run Derrick Henry, and he's going to keep the clock moving. Y'all not getting the ball back, Patriots, and if you do get it back, you're going to have so little time, you ain't going to be able to do ish with it. So hopefully they don't run into that problem again. But I like the move. I like this move that the Ravens says, look they're making a commitment to Lamar they're going to give him big time money he'll be the highest paid quarterback in the NFL I don't think they're done the Ravens, if you go back and study the Ravens they normally have success when they go get a player, if you look at for instance, now this is a trade you might look at this a little different But if you go back and study them, 99, they're going to get, what, 90? I think it's 98, 99. They're going to get Michael McQuarrie and Rod Wilson. In 2000, they're going to get me and Sam Adams. And then you see, you get Derek Mason. You get Anquan Bolden. You get Steve Smith. You see the success that they have? If the Ravens come get you, they've done their homework and they know. And the thing that I love that I love most about them, be who you are. We don't need you to come here. We already know what we get. Right. Be that. You talk ish, talk ish. If you're quiet, stay quiet. All we want you to do is play hard. That's it. Yeah. That's it. And, you know, everyone, everyone that they've went and got has had success. Everyone they've gotten. And, listen, going to get max, they're going to have success. He makes. Roquan, remember they made the trade for Ro? Yeah. For Ro? Yeah. Yeah, they, they, they, I said they need to impact players. You got one at each level. Now, Nate Wiggins, he's going to improve from last year. I sure hope so. He's going to improve from last year. I believe in him. I like young bull. He's nice. You got Roquan and now you have an impact player on your line. So you got, you got, Oh, I didn't even mention Kyle Hamilton. I didn't even mention Kyle Hamilton. The best, the best safety in the game right now. So you kind of set defensively with leaders at each level. Well, if Matabuik can come back and play at the level that we're used to seeing him play at, and you got Crosby, I still would like, hey, I'm going to boast. I'm going to try to get me a corner. I don't know what's going to happen with Marlon Humphrey. I don't know if he's aligned for a restructure. I don't know if he's aligned to get released. I don't know what's going to – but they need corners. They need corners. And I hope you're right. I just hope you're right that Nate Wiggins is going to get better. Yeah. Because all I know, their two corners are top five in yards allowed. Well, hell, Unc, if you got them having to cover for 20 seconds, shoot, me and you would be in the top five of yards allowed too. You know? So they got some help. They got some help because Max got a moat on him, boy. Oh yeah man Oh yeah But I think If I'm the Ravens look I know Eric DaCosta is running this But don't think I still don't have a presence in that building Because he does But when you look They need a receiver They need another receiver I told you And you better go get a right guard too I told you who's going there Who Steph gonna end up in Baltimore man listen we was on the show I don't know a few episodes ago I said Max Crosby was coming to the Ravens like every time I say a player is going somewhere it happens I'm gonna say it here and people might not like it huh AJ Brown is gonna end up with the New England Patriots I'm telling you ahead of time I just don't look I like Steph, but Ocho, they need more. They don't need another possession receiver. They need a stud. Go get you a stud. Hold on, Unc. All the studs are taken. No disrespect. All the studs are taken. What stud can you go and get that's going to come in and change everything right away? I think there will be some receivers available that will give them more bang for their buck than Stephon. That's all I'm saying. Unc, you know Stephon just coming off a thousand-yard season, Unc? No, I don't think he had quite a thousand, but. Oh, he had a thousand, huh? He had a thousand? Yeah. I just don't know, Ocho. I just think you could do better. Okay, okay. I'm just saying, I'm looking at the landscape of what's available. You said a stud. All the studs are number ones. They not available. Who's going to come in there and just instantly be. Yeah, 85 catches, 1,013 yards, and four touchdowns. Yeah. You know, over there in the wing, it's by committee. Yes. Every week is a different receiver. You never know who it's going to be. Well, I think the thing is, I mean, I think the Patriots are trying to get a first-round pick for A.J. And I don't know if they're going to be able to get that. They're going to probably have to settle for a second. What you thinking? AJ is worthy of a first-round pick on him. AJ Brown and what he's going to bring to your team and how he's going to help them offensively and what he can do. He can stretch the field when need be. He can run short routes. He can run intermediate routes. He's hell to deal with. you have a great running game he's worth that first round pick that that's just me you got that you got to have a stud you can't you can't do it what you have right now yeah i i think the thing is that okay where who new england because okay they got so that'd be AJ would be one and then you got Booty Booty is Matt Collins Douglas Douglas Douglas that'd be a nice squad man how old is AJ Oh That's a good way. I'm not sure Because you know you start pushing that 30 the price start dropping quick. Oh, yeah, yeah They don't play don't play about that. They don't man play about that Mm-hmm Now you have to play guys take better care of themselves now they're they're more conditioned guys I mean, you might have to readjust that. You might have to look at, say, like, 33, 35, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's 28. He's 28. 28? Okay. But no, no, he good, didn't she? Yeah, he good. Here's Max Crosby's goodbye to the Raiders. Ever since I've been here, man, I've had one goal and one mission. That's become the best version of myself and help bring a championship back to the Raider organization. And I feel like I left, you know, everything I had on the table for this team. I've given my heart and soul. And I feel like I let y'all down, man. Ever since day one, I've wanted to create and build a winner with the Raiders. I like that. When you think about when you think about the Las Vegas Raiders, I mean, they are Mac Crosby. Max Crosby is their identity. He has been since he showed up. He always has been, and he said it just right. He left it all out on the field. He did. He did everything he has with his play. Forget the words that he just said. He showed it with his play week in and week out. But again, it's a team game. Yes. So he can't do it by himself. No. He is the perfect Raider. he was the perfect Raider Al would have loved him he's definitely Al's type of a guy but they don't have anything now it's being reported that they have 100 plus million dollars in cap space and two first round picks this year remember they traded Jacoby Myers so I don't know what they got from Jacksonville what they get a third or a fourth for Jacoby Myers okay I can't remember exactly but they they can make some good moves whatever move they they they got to be the right moves not just any moves they got to be what he got it got to be franchise changing altering moves yeah guys we know max wanted out it's being reported but everybody talking about y'all just keep trying to put word the man said he was he supposed to say but insiders that had spoken to max crosby said he said he was done yeah but like like oh he said this he said that what is he supposed to say when he's currently still on the roster the last thing i'm gonna have y'all do is to try to void my contract or to try to get me for conduct detrimental to the team of course i'm going to say all the right things. Privately, I've let it be known I want to be dealt. I mean, and Clint played it perfectly. I've had a conversation with Max. Clearly, we want him here. But we want those two first-round picks for him, though. Absolutely. So I don't have a problem with it. If you want to win, now, they could turn the thing around quickly. Our lot of Houston Texans. It's not that you have those picks. Who do you select with those picks? Well, if you get you a C.J. Stroud or you get you a Will Anderson Jr., you get you a Nico Collins, you start drafting guys like that, it won't take you long. At all. It won't take you long. Now, you mess around and get you a Trey Lance. Yeah. Hey, We know where the first pick is going. They're not trading back out of that. They're not giving that to somebody else. It's going to be Mendoza. What do they got? So they got 1 and 14. Mendoza. And I got the next round. If there's somebody that you love, Ocho, hey, you got all those picks, man. Hey, get good. Yeah. You need some receivers. He going to need somebody to throw the ball to Ocho. He going to need somebody to throw the damn ball to. Well, you know what I've said. Who I wanted to go to Vegas I don't want to Oh, pick? I don't want to piss off my Cowboy fans You know I love y'all But, you know Hey, and you know I have a question Hey, Chad Do you see any scenario, right? Think about this It could be crazy Could you see any scenario Pick going to the Raiders Maybe CD going to the Raiders or just those two not being together in Dallas? Do you see any scenario where that can happen? No. Chad, what do you think? I think Jerry loves CD. Right, right. He's the one that's recommended. He wanted CD. CD wanted DeAndre Hopkins. He wanted 10. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was a D-Hop fan. It was Jerry said, nah, nah, we really want you to have 88. Right, right, right. Because what that signifies is Drew Pearson and Dez Bryant and Irvin. Yes. And now you. Yeah. I just, you know how this business is. You know how this business is. So I've been thinking about the type of scenarios that can happen. And most of the time, they'll pull the wool over your eyes and do something strange that it might not make sense to us, but it makes sense to them because they're thinking long term. Yeah. Not now. Oh Joe, the biggest reaction of the trade came from Jamar Chase. Let's listen to what Chase had to say. Joe just fucking texted me. Ravens traded for Max Crosby. No fucking shit. No fucking shit. No fucking shit, brother. I'm fucking highly pissed right now. Oh my God. oh my god fucking how the fuck do we let this nigga go to the fucking division bro oh my god bro why the fuck do we let this nigga go to the division bro oh my god and and his and Jamar Chase's reaction alone let you know who Crosby is. Yeah. The respect he has from other players. Ocho, you remember we had him on the show at the Super Bowl? Yeah. And he said, Jeffrey Simmons and Max Crosby. Max Crosby, yeah. He said, if we get both of them, one of them, give us, let us get one of them. We like both of them, but if we get one of them. Yeah, it makes a difference. I don't know if Simmons is available. I don't think so, but you never know, Ocho. But the question is, what y'all willing to give up for him? I mean, eh. You're going to have to give up a first-round pick. He the best he tackled in football. Yeah. Oh, you think you're about to get him? What you think you're about to get him? Yeah. For a comic book and an apple? No, it's out of him and Chris Jones. Yeah. But, you know, the Titans are building something special over there. So I doubt he is their identity, similar to how Matt Crosby was with the Las Vegas Raiders. I agree. The Tennessee Titans, Jeffrey Simmons, is the Tennessee Titans. He's that leader. He's that captain. He's that face of that franchise. Even though they have a quarterback that they just drafted in Cam Ward, you know, with the first pick. When you think Tennessee Titans, the first thing you think is Jeffrey Simmons. I just don't see him going anywhere. He's said it multiple times, but you never know. You don't. You don't. Somebody might make them an offer they can't refuse. Yeah, and that's the only time it would happen. Yeah. But people just not let you just have their best players. No, absolutely. You would have to give up some compensation. Draft picks, high, first-rounders. Yes. Mm-hmm. This is the biggest night in podcasting. The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards, live from South by Southwest. March 16th, we'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. 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