The Drop the Needle Podcast

49: Ep.44 - Exploring Spiritual Gifts with Julie Ryan

54 min
Oct 2, 20258 months ago
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Summary

Julie Ryan, a psychic medium and medical intuitive, discusses her spiritual gifts including remote healing, communicating with deceased loved ones, and the 12 phases of transition when people die. She shares her background as a serial entrepreneur who developed surgical devices before transitioning to energy healing work, and discusses her upcoming course in Atlanta where she teaches others to develop these abilities.

Insights
  • Medical intuition operates as remote viewing technology using plasma energy, allowing practitioners to diagnose physical conditions across distances instantaneously without traditional diagnostic equipment
  • The dying process follows a consistent 12-phase transition pattern regardless of whether death is sudden or prolonged, involving specific spiritual phenomena that can be observed and described
  • Spiritual gifts are not exclusive abilities but innate capacities in all humans that can be developed through training and practice, similar to learning any other skill
  • Energy healing works as a complementary piece of a larger healing puzzle alongside conventional medical care, with the energetic healing preceding and supporting physical recovery
  • Deceased loved ones and pets appear to dying individuals in recognizable forms based on the person's cultural and personal context, providing comfort during the transition process
Trends
Growing mainstream acceptance of complementary energy healing practices alongside conventional medicineIncreased demand for training in intuitive and spiritual abilities among general populations across multiple countriesIntegration of quantum physics principles with spiritual practices to create scientific frameworks for metaphysical phenomenaRise of remote healing and distance-based spiritual services enabled by understanding of plasma energy and non-local consciousnessEducational shift toward teaching death literacy and transition processes in spiritual and wellness communitiesEntrepreneurial approach to spiritual services with structured weekend intensives replacing traditional multi-year apprenticeshipsCross-cultural validation of near-death experiences and end-of-life spiritual phenomena through medical research (90% observation rate)Podcast and digital media expansion of spiritual education and live healing demonstrations to global audiences
Topics
Medical Intuition and Remote DiagnosisEnergy Healing and Reiki PracticePsychic Medium CommunicationThe 12 Phases of Transition and DeathNear-Death Experiences and AfterlifeRemote Viewing TechniquesSpiritual Gift Development TrainingPet Spirit CommunicationPast Life RegressionAngel Communication and Angelic AttendancePlasma Energy and Quantum Physics in SpiritualityComplementary Care IntegrationEnd-of-Life Spiritual SupportSerial Entrepreneurship in WellnessSpiritual Entrepreneurship Models
Companies
Gigaclear
Fiber broadband provider for rural Britain mentioned in pre-roll advertisement offering gigabit speeds from 19 pounds...
Morrison's
UK supermarket chain featured in pre-roll advertisement promoting fresh flower bouquets for Mother's Day starting at ...
University of Southern California
Referenced as institution where Julie Ryan's mentor started the entrepreneur program that influenced her business phi...
NASA
Mentioned as employer of Barbara Brennan, a physicist whose quantum physics work informed energy healing methodologies
People
Julie Ryan
Psychic medium, medical intuitive, serial entrepreneur, and inventor of surgical devices who developed spiritual gift...
Jim Alls
Host of The Drop the Needle Podcast who conducted the interview with Julie Ryan about spiritual gifts and death trans...
Barbara Brennan
Late NASA physicist who developed energy healing methodologies by translating quantum physics principles into accessi...
Carolyn Myss
Author of 'Anatomy of the Spirit' whose work on medical intuition inspired Julie Ryan's spiritual career transition
Leonardo da Vinci
Referenced as old master painter who could perceive and depict human auras and energy fields in religious artwork
Quotes
"I'm a business woman and an inventor who learned how to do woo woo and I'm a buffet of psychicness"
Julie RyanEarly in episode
"All spirits are pure love. Hell doesn't exist. The whole evil spirit thing is just nonsense."
Julie RyanMid-episode discussion on afterlife
"We all have the ability. It's just a matter of developing and enhancing it."
Julie RyanCourse description section
"I'm like a human MRI, Jim. And I raised my vibrational level to the level of spirit because we're all spirits attached to a body having a human experience."
Julie RyanMedical intuition explanation
"The body's going to follow what the brain's showing it. Even if the brain doesn't believe it to be true."
Julie RyanHealing mechanism discussion
Full Transcript
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I'm your host Jim Alls. And here, gifted souls step up to the mic, sharing their spiritual journey. We're hitting the high notes, and the low notes that they're awakening, creating a symphony of enlightenment. This isn't just another interview show. This is where divine insights are channeled and universal truths are revealed. So crank up your stereo and sit back, because who knows? This just might help you compose the next transformative chapter of your soul's purpose. Are you ready? Let's go. Hi everyone. Welcome back to the Drop the Needle podcast. I'm your host Jim Alls. And I'm so happy all decided to join us. Have you ever wondered what really happens when we die? How about this? Have you ever heard of someone having the ability to interpret health issues without the use of traditional medical diagnostic methods or equipment? These people are called medical intuitives. And these people may provide insights into underlying health conditions, emotional and spiritual imbalances, or future health risks. Joining us today is Julie Ryan, psychic medium, medical intuitive, serial entrepreneur, and a whole lot more as we'll discover on today's episode. So welcome to the Drop the Needle podcast Julie. Well, thanks so much for having me. What a delight to be with you. Well, thanks for joining us. I guess I could have simplified the list of your gifts by just saying buffet of psychicness. Good night. I could just done that. That's right. I tell people I'm a business woman and an inventor who learned how to do woo woo and I'm a buffet of psychicness. That's outstanding. You know what I did forget though? I forgot author, podcaster, yeah. And the list goes on and a small wife, grandmother, sister, friend. Excellent. Excellent. So could you explain to everyone a little bit about your background? Can you can you fill everyone in a little bit? Sure. Sure. I as I mentioned, I'm a serial entrepreneur. I've founded nine companies in five industries and I'm an inventor of surgical devices sold throughout the world and former manufacturer of them. And I say I'm a business woman who learned how to do woo woo because I learned how to be a medical intuitive and psychic medium, Jim. And interestingly enough, in the woo woo space, by the way, woo in Taoism means source. I don't know if you knew that. I did not know that. That's awesome. And I think woo woo is a fun term. And then I used it for years then I have a very dear friend who's a Taoist priest. He goes, well, you know, woo me in source. And that was amazing. Works for me. Wow. So I didn't have dead people chasing me since childhood or if I did, I didn't I didn't know it. Well, well, well, I would have done with that. And I learned how to be a medical intuitive and psychic medium. We all have the ability. It's just a matter of developing and enhancing it. And that's what I help people do all over the world is learn how to do my buffet of psychiness, which includes, as you mentioned, we can talk to your dead grandma. We can scan your cat. I can scan you energetically for healing. I'm like a human MRI. We can do past lives. We can talk to your angels, your spirit guides, whatever. And what I found is when we connect to a spirit, we can do it all. So I'm not so sure why it's so siloed in the woo woo arena. Like you got the pets, like, ex and the media, the nailers and the past life people in the end of the years. It's all the same thing. It's all source. You know, and it's interesting that you say that. And I've found that to be the case as I continue to have spiritual guests on the show. It seems regularly that there is one exception to this. And I call her the spiritual Swiss army knife. She's very much like you. She has several several gifts in her toolbox. But I have found that for whatever reason, people will put a single label on themselves. And then as you're talking to them, you'll come to find out, oh, well, I'm a Ricky master too. And I've got this and I do terror. You know, I was like, Oh, okay, well, you should say that. You share them share your gifts, right? Right. Right. When I first started doing this woo woo stuff for a career, one of my dear friends is a, a retired entrepreneur professor. She actually started the entrepreneur program at Southern Cal, the University of Southern California. And she said, well, you got to, you got to pick a niche and stay in your lane. And I said, why? And she said, because people are going to understand, I'm going, am I going to do that? You know, because once you get a spirit, you can do it all. And, and I think that goes back to I used to, we've we've laughed over the years because she used to say to me, when you need to come get your MBA, and I'd say, why? I don't want it messing up my brain. She said, well, what do you think that's not your brain? I'd say, I think outside of the box is an entrepreneur. I don't want to have a mindset that you got to do it this way in this manner with this amount of money and this many employees and all of that. I said, I'd rather just have it be open and be like a wildcatter. And so that's what I've done with the, you know, the wildcatter oilman who just went out and found oil and they didn't have all the geothermal and all of that. They just they just had a feeling and started digging. So I'm more like those wildcatters. Well, and so that's interesting. I wanted to talk a little bit about your energy healing, because I know that you are a rakey practitioner as well, correct? Well, 30 or 35, 40 years ago, I had somebody that initiated me into rakey. I didn't know anything about it. I didn't know what it was. She like did this voodoo stuff around me and drew some symbols and all of that. And I never, you know, I didn't pay any attention to it. It was like, okay, fine. You want to do that? That's fine. And then when my son, who's now in his early 30s, when he was a toddler, we were at a friend's house and he fell on the patio and skinned his little knees. So I held him and put my hands over his knees and, you know, then and kissed him, kissed the bobo's and he got up and laid some more. And then about an hour later, Jim, when I was putting him in the car seat to go home, there was no trace of blood droplets on his knees, no bruising. He never bruised. And I thought, whoa, what is this? And then really when I came into all of this, rakey was a really good place to start. Sure. And then, but then I didn't really ever do anything with it. But then I had about 30 years ago, a girlfriend who gave me a book called Anatomy of this spirit by Carolyn Mace. And she calls herself a medical intuitive. And I thought, what the heck is that? I'd never heard that term before. And at that point, I'd been in the hospital supply industry for at least a decade and was at that point, inventing and manufacturing the surgical devices. So I was helping medical practitioners and doctors and surgeons help people heal through products that I was developing and manufacturing. And so I wanted to know more information. In fact, then we didn't have the internet yet. So I went to a bookstore to see if there was something else about this topic. And I found a book called Hands of Light by Barbara Brennan, who the late Barbara Brennan was a NASA physicist who parlayed very complex quantum physics principles into understandable English for the not-and-scientific mind. That would be me. How to use energy to help facilitate healing. And I wanted to know more. So I called her school, which at the time was on Long Island in New York. And I you guys have anybody teaching this stuff in my area and lo and behold, they did. They had a graduate who had opened his school. And I studied with her for six years. And people would say to me, family and friends, why are you doing this? And I'd say, I have no idea. And they'd say, well, what are you going to do with it? I said, again, I have no idea. Right. Well, I did. It was just fascinating. Fast forward. Now I teach people all over the world. So far from 15 countries, have all from all walks of life, how to do what I do, but it's consolidated into a weekend. And in the first couple of hours, they're doing this, whether they have any previous, no previously known abilities or not. And then they take this information back into their lives and utilize it. So I use the analogy of people say, well, if it took you six years, or you just a slow learner, or what? Or have. I've been doing it for 30 years now. So I've developed my own techniques and methodologies because Barbara Brennan designed that stuff 50 years ago. And so I say, she's kind of like, we used to communicate with carrier pigeons. And then we used horseback riders. And then we used the Wells Fargo wagon. And then the mail. And now we communicate instantly with our technology, same, same situation with this. It's very cool. I love that. And as far as I want to stay in this area for just another moment or two, as far as those gifts, as a medical intuitive and I had mentioned that it's being able to identify particular areas, let's just say from a physical body and not even get into spiritual or emotional. But from a physical perspective, you're able to identify where there are some problem areas or something. Can you walk us through that? And then what do you do with that? Yes, absolutely. I'm like a human MRI, Jim. And I raised my vibrational level to the level of spirit because we're all spirits attached to a body having a human experience. And when we are attached to a body, our spirits are attached to a body, we vibrate more slowly simply because the body has mass. Imagine trying to run an electrical current through a bullet pudding. It's going to slow it down. So I raised my vibrational level. This is what I teach people. It takes a nanosecond. It does not require chanting under crystals in a york for an hour or twirling three times, jumping on your left foot and raising your right hand. You can do that if you want. I put it's not that. So I turn my abilities on and off it will. And then I'll watch a laser beam in my mind. So I come from my body wherever I am to you, wherever you are. And then I'll have a hologram of you in my mind's eye and I'll envision shooting energy from your feet up through the top of your head. And it will be as if I'm looking at an x-ray or a CT scan or an MRI. And I can see in my mind's eye broken bones torn ligaments, viral infections, bacterial infections, cancer, metastasized cancer, whatever. And then immediately when something's identified, there will be an energetic healing that begins. And that can take the form of something getting added, something getting removed. I watched procedures all the time in my mind's eye gym that emulate what I saw in surgery for all those years, developing products, testing prototypes with my team and the surgeons and the staff. Sometimes I see healings that utilize methodologies and devices that haven't been invented yet. And it's common to hear me say, oh cool, I was a little poor. And that just is appealing to my inventor brain. Every Thursday night at 80's turn, I do the Astulary Ryan show and people calling from all over the world. And a lot of what I do on that show in its live, its live streamed on YouTube and then also recorded and released on all the podcast networks. But somebody will call and they'll say, I have a pain in my left knee. Can you scan it? I'll say, yeah, where are you? Okay, I'm in Sydney, Australia. Great. Here comes my laser beam from sweet home Alabama. I'll hook into them in Sydney, Australia. And then I'll get an image of their left knee in my mind's eye. And I'll say you have a torn miniscus. So then I'll describe the healing. Okay, we're going to use stem cell energy. The miniscus looks like a flap of tissue. The stem cell energy is a light amber color gel with sparkles in it because of course, got to sparkles. It's, you know, and it reminds me of dipty do hair gel in the 60s and 70s. So I'll watch that get smoothed on. I'll see a vortex spinning above their knee and the energetic healing will happen. So the healings, some will be identified. They'll be a healing. Some will be identified. They'll be a healing. When I have a client for an hour, we'll go through multiple things. I'll say, tell me what all your symptoms are. I always go in blind first because I want to see where the energy isn't going to go because it's going to go to the most pressing issue. First, now that baby is something that's a symptomatic and we're heading off a problem at the past. It may be the root cause of several other symptoms that maybe their medical providers haven't put two and two together to say, okay, you're living in a moldy environment. That's what's causing all these different symptoms. So and then the healing will begin. So it's really fun because we get to see amazing things. I describe it to my client or my caller. And on my show, I say to everybody listening, okay, you guys, everybody picture what I'm talking about because this is going to be a group healing. And it doesn't matter whether they're listening live or whether they're listening five years from now because time doesn't exist in the spirit world times a human creation. And so it's really fun when we do that. So the healing happens on the energetic level that it's going to integrate into the person's body. That can happen instantly. It can take days, weeks, months, many complimentary care like change in diet, physical therapy, mold remediation. And so I'll get that information too. I call that divine download. So I'm watching the healing. I'm describing it to my client. I'm getting information from spirit about, yeah, you know, you need to lay off dairy kind of a thing. And so I laugh and I say, it's a good thing I'm a girl because I can multitask. It's a super power. Oh, yeah. I know that ailment very well. I'm not a good multitasker. One of the things that I was thinking about when you were talking about the identification, let's say that there's something going on in someone's heart. Okay. And you see that and you start the healing. Is it a one session healing or are there multiple sessions involved with that? Great question. It's spirit working through me and with me to help that person heal themselves because nobody ever heals anybody else ever. No doctor, no medical provider, no shaman, no healer like me. You think about you go to the emergency room with a big cut on your leg. Well, the doctor's going to stitch it up with the doctor to make your skin grow back. You make your own skin grow back. Excuse me. So it's been my experience. The healing happens on the on the energetic level. It's part of the healing equation. Perhaps the person needs surgery on the human side, but it's already happened on the energetic side so the surgery is going to be a breeze. So it's done on the energetic side and then that person integrates the healing. And that's all predicated on what their spirit wants to explore and experience in this life. So as I mentioned, it can happen instantly. It can take days, weeks, months, may need complimentary care. And so it's part of the healing equation. It's a piece of the healing puzzle. You go to the cardiologist. If you got a heart thing going on, you may go to a neurologist. You may go to a chiropractor. You may go to a dietician. You may go to an energy healer like me. It's all pieces of the puzzle of the person healing themselves. Right. We just help the person heal those valves. I love that. By the way, I absolutely love hearing that. And backing it up the way you described it makes it makes sense to me. I'll just put it that way, especially when you're talking about, you use the example of the cut, right? So we are healing ourselves. And sometimes it's just a matter of getting that started, I suppose, right? You think about back to the cut example. We don't see a cell latch onto another cell to another cell. The car can stab that allows the cells to connect and generate to form new skin. But we know it works because we've experienced it. But we're not watching all those cells come together. And it's the same with this. We don't utilize our regular five senses to see, okay, there's this frequency that's coming from Julie and Alabama. And it's coming up to Jim and Chicago. But we know what worked. Oftentimes my client and my collars can feel when I'm working on them because they feel hot or warm or tingly or whatever. Furthermore, I think that it's interesting how spirit uses these most of the time, hilarious synologies to, and they put these pictures in my head so that I can describe, okay, Jim, I know your left elbow hurts. Well, it looks like a ball of whipped cream. You're going, what? But you can make sure that. And then I'm describing how the whipped cream starts to, to twirl in a vortex. And then stem cell energies being used to heal that chip bone, perhaps, that you have in your elbow from when you fell. And people say, oh my goodness, you described body parts better than any doctor I've ever been to. And they're wild analogies at times. Incredible. But it gives us a human frame of reference that we can picture. And in doing so, it helps us heal ourselves because the body's going to follow what the brain's showing it. Even if the brain doesn't believe it to be true, think of when you watched your guy, field of dreams. Right. I don't know a man in my circle who's ever watched field of dreams without getting weepy. Yeah. It's very emotional for most men to watch that movie. It's pretend. You know it's pretend. What? You find yourself getting teary what your body is following what your brain's showing it. Same concept. That makes sense. That's a great description. Yeah. That really is. So how long does it take you? Let's say that you have someone calling in. How long does it take you to dial into them and then do the diagnosis of that? Man, no second. Really? Yeah. Wow. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. And I watch a laser beam cross oceans. If it's somebody that's in Australia, New Zealand, I'll watch it go underneath the globe. You know, if it's in the Orient, I will watch some, I will watch a laser beam go to Singapore or Korea or wherever because I get to talk to people from all over the world. Russia, I watch it go across, watch my laser beam go across maps. Now that's how I'm picturing it in my mind. That's how spirit showing me that image. So I know what's going on. Right. And then I'll, you know, it'll immediately go. I could find you if you were in a galaxy far far away. It doesn't matter where you are. I could hook into you if you were flying across the Atlantic Ocean at 40,000 feet. It doesn't matter because I'm traveling in plasma energy. You know, we got electromagnetic energy. Right. That's Edison. That's our electricity coming into our homes and uses gravity. And then there's plasma energy that Nikola Tesla just, you know, really discovered. And so spirit operates in plasma energy. And so that's the, that's the force field. Okay. How does that sound? That's being utilized to do this. And, and it's fascinating how we can remote view. That's what I'm doing when I'm looking inside somebody's body. I'm remote viewing where they are. I'm remote viewing what they look like, what their body looks like, what the spirits around them look like if we're talking to a deceased loved one. And so it's, it's really fascinating. I teach remote viewing as well because it's an integral part of the work that we do. Sure. Well, that makes sense, especially when you're doing distance healings and things like that. I think it would be very important. I'm going to talk about or ask you to discuss it really. What really happens when we die? That's, that's an important piece of your body of work as I see it. Right. You know, because you're, you're, you have a show, a show, you have a course coming up is, it's next, next month in October 24 through the 26th, then Atlanta. Right. And that's angelic attendance. Right. And so I want to talk a little bit about what really happens when we die, if you don't mind, because then that's going to kind of transition into your coursework. And we can talk about that a little bit. So we can let people know what to expect. Yeah. Well, I teach the hope of a psychickness. And you're right. The, you do everything. They learn to communicate with spirit, do the medical, do the pet, do the spirit guides and angels, do the past life stuff, the remote viewing, all of it. It's the whole buffet of psychickness in a, in a weekend. Well, then that's a bargain in, in my opinion, because it's more than that typically for individual courses like that. So that's right. Right. Well, I'm sorry. I'm jumping the gun. But I, I, that's really, that's, that is a bargain. But yeah. So what happens when somebody dies? There's lots of information, Jim, out there I have found about the afterlife and about near death experiences. And the phases of grief for the stages of grief, but not so much information about what happens when we're dying. And that's what people are really afraid of. You know, we're going to fly or we're going to fry when we die. That has been raised in the Western Judeo Christian religions and cultures. You know, we're like, oh, no, what happens? Is it like Bruce Willis, you know, in the movie that somebody's going to come and get us or, or the Demi Moore and Patrick Swayze ghost. Ghost. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody goes to heaven. First of all, there's a movie out in the 1980s called All Dogs Go To Heaven. Well, all people know to have and two, all spirits are pure love. Hell doesn't exist. The whole evil spirit thing is just nonsense. It was, has been propagated by cultures and religions and civilizations to control the masses over the years. And I've heard this a bazillion times from spirit. All spirits are pure love. So we are attached to a body. Our spirits, the main part of us, we're attached to a body when we're having a human existence. And I went through 12 years of Catholic schools. And I'm now a cafeteria Catholic. So I take what makes sense to me and I agree with. And so I was taught in Catholic school gym that the spirit or the soul, they mean the same thing. I use spirit because I think soul has a religious connection to it. Sure. Perhaps it's just from how I was raised. But in 12 years of Catholic schools, I learned that the spirit or the soul is someplace in the chest area. And that's not what I perceive. What I perceive now is that the spirits, the main part of us and the body is inside the spirit. Now think about, have you ever seen a depiction of a religious figure, perhaps in a painting with animals and you have a halo around their head or around their body? Yeah. Yeah. That's their spirit. That's their aura. That's their energy field. It's all the same thing. And those painters, those old master master's paintings like painters like Leonardo da Vinci and you know, all those guys, they could see that I believe around people. I think everybody's been able to see this at the beginning of time. So when we're dying, the spirit exits through the top of the head, starts to detach from the body. And it hangs on and it looks like a cartoon speech bubble to me. You know, think of where the cartoon characters thoughts or comments are. Yeah. Yeah. And it hangs on to the top of the head. I call that phase one. What I've coined, that the whole transition process as the 12 phases of transition. And the first time I saw all of this, Jim was with my own mother when she was dying in 2002. And I'd never been around anybody at the end of their life before. So I'd never seen what it was like to watch somebody die. First of all, and secondly, I've been studying the woow woow stuff for a while at that point. And I felt like the lady of justice statue, you know, balancing. Like the scales on what's like heartbreak breaking because my mother was dying very unexpectedly. And on the other side, you'll see all this glorious stuff from the spirit world. And it was just remarkable and amazing. And so it really helped balance what was going on. So with my mother, the first spirit to show up and the surprise the daylights on me was my Mima, my grandmother, who had died six months before my mother was dying. And that really surprised me. I thought, God certainly has like a death and departure department in heaven. And this, you know, okay, Mary Joe, Mary Joe Ryan's dying in Columbus, Ohio. So we need to dispatch, you know, an angel there to help run the show. That's not what happens. And I've seen those thousands and thousands of times now. So my Mima shows up. And then my mother's father, his spirit shows up. Now he died in 1938. My mother was 12. He was a detective in the Columbus, Ohio police department who was killed in the line of duty. So I had never met him, but I'd certainly seen pictures of him. So let's say for conversations, say, let's talk about my mother. She's in a bad, my grandmother and my grandfather are at her feet, their spirits. And they're there. And then my grandmother, my Mima, brought in angels. She was running the show. It's a maternal spirit always that runs the show from the spirit world. And it's the maternal spirit, either the birth mother or the adoptive mother. It's the mother that raises the person who's dying. The birth mother went in an adoption case is there, but it's the adopted mother. It's the one that raises the birth and children. Yeah. And it's a lot to remember a couple of other things as we go through these phases. Number one, I had so many people throughout the years, so many women usually gym that say, my mom was just awful. She's like this person. I would want bedside at when I'm dying. And I'd say that was her personality. Remember that was a role she was playing in that lifetime. The personality stays with the body when somebody dies. All spirits of your love, which is a different way of thinking about it. That's number one. Number two, everybody goes through the 12 phases of transition, regardless of if they die instantly, like in the case of a homicide or suicide, or if they die over a prolonged period of time, days, weeks, months, even years, you know, somebody's got, let's say, cancer, and they're dying, you know, or Alzheimer's a lot of time with Alzheimer's. It'll be a long time, you know, as they're transitioning. So they call in the angels, the maternal spirit calls in the angels. And of course, I'm a Catholic girl, big angels, two rings, white gown, bare feet, rope belt. So what they really look like, that's what I was taught they look like. And spirits always going to show up in a way that's going to make sense to us. Some of the growing up in the middle of the jungle in the Amazon and in an indigenous culture, AC, angel energy is just a blob of purple haze. So they're always going to show up to us in a way that presents. So the angels show up and they with the parent spirits form a circle around the person who's dying. As they get closer to death, that circle opens up into a horseshoe and eventually a straight line across the foot of the bed for this. Many other spirits come in. The maternal spirit brings in other spirits from all of the lifetimes. And the thing that's so fun about that gym is their imperial dress. Wow. I mean, he came in people and renaissance people in 1960s, twiggy women, you know, and many skirts and white go-go boots and stuff like that. So that's wild. I normally can just scribe different spirits that are there. Pets spirits come in. Every pet, if your pets come in too. Pet the person's ever had in their lifetime. And I can always tell if somebody grew up on a farm or perhaps lives on a farm now and I'll say, could your mom live on a farm or did she grow up on a farm? And I'll say, yeah, I'll say, okay, well, here's this horse. You know, there's cows, there's chicks, there's ducks. You know, hey, I'll say, oh, yeah, that's Molly, her cow, her pet cow. That's right. Molly, her cow. Yeah. Yeah. And so as I'm describing this to the family, and sometimes a person who's dying is part of the conversation as well, it brings in so much comfort because there's no way I can know this stuff. And I'm describing these people who they can, they can name based on the description. By the way, university-based research shows that 90 percent of people see the spirits of deceased loved ones and pets at the end of their lives. 90 percent. So we think, grandma's just hallucinating because of the morphine that hospice has given her. No, she's not. She's actually able to see and communicate with her deceased mother, spirit, perhaps who died 60 years ago. And every medical provider who's worked with somebody at the end of their lives has had instances where their patient has reached out like they're greeting somebody or they're hugging somebody or they're talking to somebody like in the corner of the room. And or the patient will say, who are all these people? What are all these people doing here? And the nurse is looking around and going, yeah, it's just you and me, honey. But they know I see you, CCU, ER hospice, hospice. Yes. You know, even the funeral directors, they all have many, many stories of what Emily do, Emily telling them about their loved ones seeing, seeing others. So more spirits continue to arrive. The angels have now, let's say, oh, they are open into a straight line across the foot of the bed. And I call that angelic crowd control. They're close. They're across the line. Here it's in the room, Jim, that they look like dots on her yeah, yeah. Couple of interesting nuances that happen around phase between phase five and phase six, they're two extra angels that show up. And they position themselves on either side of the spirit bubble. Let's attach to the top of the person's head. When this happened with my mother, I thought, this could be interesting. I'm not sure what their role is going to be, but I know that they're going to be part of helping my mother's spirit separate from her body around phase nine. Those two angels on either side of the spirit bubble, their wings start to move. And they reminded me with my mom, Jim, of like a giant owl. You've ever seen a giant owl in person or on a documentary, perhaps their wings are slow and they're silent and they're rhythmic. You can almost feel the drag. And you're watching an owl, you know, going after some prey usually. So I'm watching this with my mom. And what I'm noticing is that there's a vortex forming above her head. And the vortex is being formed by the angel's movement of their wings. And that, all right. Now this vortex, I could see it, I could feel it, I could hear it. And it reminded me of being in a car wash, where at the end they turn on the dryer and it's sucking all the water up your car. We didn't have this strong upward suction. And I thought, this is how her spirit is going to evacuate from her body. And that is in fact what happened. So when I was writing my book, Angelica Tenens, what really happens as we transitioned from this life to the next, I was led to do some research about, I just put in the search bar, wings vortex owl. Come to find out Jim, there's this aeronautical engineering phenomenon called the wing tip vortex. Wow. And if you do an internet search on wing tip vortex, you will see thousands of articles and illustrations and photographs and and information that every pilot knows that anything that flies, whether it be a jet, a plane, a bug, a bird, the way that the air goes under, over and underneath the wings causes a vortex that causes lift. That's what makes the plane lift and fly. And I thought, oh my goodness, this is something that is being created by angels in the spirit world. I can see it, I can hear it, I can feel it. There's an aeronautical engineering explanation for it. And it's what caused the lift to help my mother's spirit evacuate from her body and to tag. And then those angels carry the spirit to heaven. Another interesting point, if I may real quickly, again, at my mother's funeral, I was Catholic and there were a bunch of priests on the altar. And there's a prayer set at the end of every Roman Catholic funeral, and it's called in Paradisum, which in Latin, when you translate it into English, is into paradise. And it talks about how the angels and your loved ones will reach you and lead you into paradise. And I thought, I have heard that prayer a bazillion times, and every Catholic funeral I've ever attended, but I really heard it at my mom's funeral. Her life saw it. You saw it too, right? Re-enforces that... Yeah, so when I was writing angelic attendance, I thought, I wonder where that prayer originated. And I learned that it began as a fifth century Gregorian chant. And I thought, well, perhaps it took till the fifth century, till somebody was well educated enough that they could read and write. Right. And certainly back then, some of the most learned people were men living in monasteries and synagogues. They were their scribes. And I have to believe based on that, that people have been able to see these phases of transition since the beginning of time. And perhaps as we've become more well educated and more proof based, we've forgotten what people have been able to see all along. And that makes sense too. That is, that's amazing. And you hit down a couple of points. And when being part of the process or being present when somebody passes, I have, fortunately or I have a friend who's a hospice nurse and she thinks it's the greatest gift of all to be by someone's side when they pass. Right. I'll go with that. And some of the things that you mentioned were spot on. I remember when my father passed, he was having a full-on conversation with someone and it was just the two of us in the room and his eyes were closed. Right. So he was, he was nearing the end. And I'm convinced he didn't want me there when it was his time to pass because the hospice nurses said, oh, you can go home. Don't worry about it. Nothing's going to happen. I got home in probably 25, 30 minutes later. I got a call thinking that, oh, I need to bring something and it was someone saying, and I put it on speakerphone with my, at that point, 10-year-old, nine-year-old son because I was just thinking, oh, they just need slippers or something, you know. And I got the message and then he's immediately is inconsolable and it's okay. It's okay. It's trying to calm him down and also listen so then I had to go. But it was, I was convinced that he didn't want me there because I had already seen it with a few others and it can be traumatic. You're absolutely right. Every funeral director, every critical care medical provider has many, many stories about the family waited till or the family laughed in the person passed. The family had been their home vigil for days. Right. And they were gone 10 minutes and then the person passed. One of my favorite stories is an ICU nurse and and her patient flatlined. And she went up to him and she said, no, you can't go. You need to come back because your brother's on the way and he's flying in and he'll be here in about 15 minutes. And the line went up. The heartbeat came back. The patients regained, you know, heartbeat. And then the brother arrived and was there and spent maybe 10 minutes with them and then the person, the patient died after the brother arrived. I love that story. I heard that from a nurse who's a client. That's just amazing. Well, let's let's talk quickly about your course that's coming up in October and Atlanta. So people can have an understanding of what they may expect. Sure. Sure. People come in from all over America and abroad. I know we have people coming in from Europe. It's so much fun. And it's such an amazing weekend that I have a few dozen graduate volunteers that come in at their own expense, Jim, just to be there to help the students. I think that speaks more volumes than anything. Yeah. And so we ran out of hotel. It's adjacent to the Atlanta airport. And we we learned remote viewing communication was spirit pet communication, medical intuition, energy healing, past life stuff, the 12 faces of transition, how to tell when somebody's dying, how to communicate with that person who's dying, how to communicate with the spirits that are in the room. And everybody can do this stuff. We all have the ability. We all come in with the hardware. And it's just a matter of developing and enhancing it. If you think about it, most of us have had the experience where we think of somebody. And we think, oh gosh, you know, I need to call Stanley. And then Stanley emails you or texts you or calls you or you run into Stanley. And you say, Stanley, I've just been thinking about you. Isn't that a coincidence? No. That's your intuitive ability. Likewise, those of us with children and grandchildren when a child bruises their knees or or gets a booboo, what do they do? They come over, we kiss it, you know, we dry their tears, we give them a hug and send them on their way. What are we doing? We're healing them. We're using energy, even though we're not aware of it. We're using energy to help heal our loved ones. When we pray, same thing, what are we doing? It's collective energy. So it's just a matter of developing and enhancing it. So everybody in the class can learn to do this stuff like I did. And they're all doing it within the first couple of hours. And it's so much fun. People say to me, after they teach, they after and it's hundreds of people have been through the class. I do it online in the spring and I do it in person in the fall. And they say, you always say how much fun it is. And I thought, eh, how much fun is it's going to be? And oh my god, you're a kidding. It is so much fun. We just have a blast. That's so awesome. That is fantastic. And we'll, I'll put a reminder out at the end of the show about that again. Yeah. How to get in touch or schedule that sign for it. Right. Right. We have a discounted rate on rooms. You know, I mean, the meals are wonderful. It's, it's all, it's like, it's like a spa weekend almost, you know, with the, with the, it's like a southern garden party. Well, that's cool. Yeah. I can't wait. Well, okay. It's musical question time. Oh, great. Well, this is the part of the show when I get a chance to ask the guests some musical questions. And I really do believe that music is the tie that binds and that each of us has a soundtrack that accompanies their life. If they just take a moment to think about it. So we're going to dive right on in. I always have music in my head going in the background. Do you? I have music. Well, aside from the tonight's, yeah, I do work on that. I can help you fix that. I would love that. Absolutely. It's been going on far too long. Okay. So what was it for song you fell in love with on the radio or one that you heard and you can remember saying, I can't wait to hear that one again. Well, I remember being a little kid and I'm one of four and we were all in the bathtub at the same time and we would sing at the top of our lungs. downtown downtown for a particular clock. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. So I thought that's it. That's the first thing that came to my head was being in the bathtub with my siblings and a screening downtown. That's excellent. That's a great one. Yeah. Did your family have a song that everyone would belt out on road trips or vacations that you want to know but but there's a song that was sung to me that I sung to my son when he was a baby on my grandsons. I five grandsons through marriage. Oh, wow. And it's Boba Blacksheep. Boba Blacksheep. And I remember being a little teeny, teeny kid and having that song to me my mother and my grandmother. And so I then carried on the tradition and I rocked my son to sleep every night and sang Boba Blacksheep to him. And then when my grandsons who were all grown and you know, either in college or I have the youngest ones as senior in high school soon to graduate when they were all babies and they would spend the night at Mimi and Grandad's house. I would rock them to sleep and sing Boba Blacksheep to them. Wow. What a great story. I love that. So I'm going to ask you this one. What was your favorite song that you and your friends would belt out? Let's say you're senior year in high school in the car. We're just rolling that in the windows and screaming away. Stay in a live. Stay in a live. Yeah. Love that one. Do you have to have a song that gets the positive juices flowing? Do actually I have to. And the first one is impossible from Cinderella, Rogers and Hammerstein, the play. What's possible for a plain yellow pumpkin tube become a golden carriage? It's talking about woo woo. Yeah. It's possible for you know mice and rats to turn into fit, footmen and all of that. And then the other one is sweet home Alabama. So those two and I live in Birmingham and go to the BAMMIT games and they blast that. It's kind of a tagline in my show because I always say, send in your let's love from sweet home Alabama. Here comes my laser beam from sweet home Alabama. That's awesome. Yeah. I'm going to ask you one more musical question for today. Okay. And this is happens to be one of my favorites. Sometimes there are songs that you hear that ring so true that they can stop you in your tracks. In the songs lyrics sound like they were written either specifically for you or by you. What's that song? Open a new window by Jerry Herman from MAME. Can you tell I love Broadway tunes and open a new window, open a new door, travel a new highway that's ever been tried before before. And I think it's about you know, don't be stagnant in your life. Try new things because when we're creating something, people always think, okay, I'm going to manifest this. I'm just going to do these affirmations. Well, you got to take action. Sure. And so open a new window is when the other one that comes to mind with that is what a fool believes by Michael McDonald's and you know that we believe what we see and we see what we believe. So if something feels badly, look at it from a different perspective because if we're feeling badly about something we're basing our perspective in fear. And the key is that a real fear or is it a fake fear? 99.9% of the time it's at fake fear that holds us back. So I love that song too. What a fool believes. That's a good one. I'll tell you what, you have a few firsts in there for the songs for sure. Yes, sure. Well, it's just about time to cue the music for today's episode. But don't forget to like, comment and subscribe to the drop the needle podcast to stay up to date on our latest episodes. I'd also like to take a moment to thank everyone again for tuning in today. And I hope you enjoyed this episode of the drop the needle podcast. I'd also like to thank our special guests Julie Ryan for being on the show today. And you can get in touch with Julie through her website, which is www.askjulyrion.com. That's www.askjulirion.com or through her social media platforms, which I will include in the show notes from this episode. And what I'm also going to include is a link so you can register for her courses in Atlanta, October 27th through the 29th, 24th through the 26th, 24th through the 26th. I was way off there. So sorry, October 24th through the 26th in Atlanta, you would get to meet, say hello and participate in the classes in person with Julie. I invite you all to head on over to the show notes where there's going to be that link in the playlist from today's episode. And there's also going to be a link as far as being able to contact Julie regarding booking a session, taking classes and again, for trainings, training sessions in Atlanta. Oh, in a book. And my book, anybody that wants a free copy of Angelica Tinnons, what really happens as we transition from this life into the next, just go to astjulyrion.com and you'll see on the homepage, it'll say, click here to download a free digital and audio book copy and we've got it in Spanish as well. So please read this, listen to it, share it with everybody you know and love because we're all going to lose a loved one and we're all going to be there ourselves one day. And so I think this information should be taught in schools, which is why I give thousands and thousands of these books away for free. I think that that's a wonderful gift. I really truly do. And you should all the listeners out there should take advantage of that. 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