Otaku's Anonymous

Is Invincible's Power Scaling Broken? - Otakus Anonymous Episode #157

126 min
Apr 15, 202613 days ago
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Summary

Two anime enthusiasts discuss recent anime episodes including Invincible season 4, Witch Hat Atelier, Demons of the Shadow Realm, and Historia, with heavy criticism of Invincible's inconsistent power scaling and death-baiting narrative tactics. They also cover an Esquire magazine controversy involving AI-generated interview responses with actor Mack and You, and discuss animation studio Bug Films' exceptional work on Witch Hat Atelier.

Insights
  • Inconsistent power scaling in action-heavy narratives undermines stakes and audience investment, even when individual fight sequences are well-executed
  • Animation studios with smaller, focused teams (like Bug Films) can produce higher quality work than larger studios by prioritizing artistic detail and creative direction over volume
  • AI-generated content in journalism raises ethical concerns about authenticity and labor, particularly when used to replace actual creative work without transparency
  • Character likability and growth arcs matter more to audience engagement than raw power levels or technical consistency in long-form storytelling
  • Production design details (fabric animation, lighting, sound design) significantly elevate adaptation quality and justify investment in live-action reference materials
Trends
Animation quality becoming primary differentiator between competing anime adaptations of similar source materialAudience backlash against AI-generated content in creative industries intensifying, particularly in journalism and entertainmentSmaller, specialized animation studios outperforming larger conglomerates through focused artistic vision and quality-over-quantity approachPower scaling discourse becoming central to anime fandom criticism, with audiences demanding internal consistency in action narrativesIncreased transparency demands from studios regarding animation techniques, budgets, and production constraints to counter fan criticismCharacter-driven storytelling valued over spectacle in determining anime critical success and longevityManga-to-anime adaptation quality heavily dependent on production team understanding source material's thematic depth beyond visual translationDeath-baiting narrative tactics wearing thin with audiences, reducing emotional impact of stakes in long-running series
Topics
Anime Power Scaling ConsistencyAnimation Studio Production QualityAI-Generated Content in JournalismManga-to-Anime Adaptation ChallengesCharacter Arc DevelopmentDeath-Baiting Narrative TacticsAnimation Budget AllocationLive-Action Reference Materials in AnimationFabric and Clothing Animation DetailComposer Selection for Anime SoundtracksStudio Size vs. Output QualityAudience Engagement MetricsVisual Storytelling in Fantasy AnimeMagic System Design and CreativityProduction Design and World-Building
Companies
Esquire Magazine
Published controversial AI-generated interview with actor Mack and You using LLM to synthesize previous quotes instea...
Amazon Prime Video
Distributor of Invincible animated series; criticized for budget constraints limiting animation quality and productio...
Bug Films
Animation studio producing Witch Hat Atelier and Zom 100; praised for exceptional quality work despite small 30-perso...
Wit Studio
Animation studio that faced backlash for using generative AI in opening sequence backgrounds of Ascendance of a Bookworm
Netflix
Streaming platform distributing Love on the Prism anime series
Shopify
E-commerce platform mentioned in mid-roll advertisement segment
British Gas
Utility company featured in advertisement for peak save electricity pricing program
People
Robert Kirkman
Creator of Invincible comic series; criticized by fans for dismissing power scaling concerns and inconsistent narrati...
Mack and You (Maeda)
Japanese-American actor featured in Esquire AI-generated interview controversy; son of actor Sonny Chiba
Yurga Kida Murra
Composer of Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 soundtracks; hired to create ominous atmosphere for Witch Hat Atelier anime
Sonny Chiba
Legendary Japanese actor; father of Mack and You, mentioned in Esquire article context
Quotes
"They released an interview with Mack and you and then fed his verbatim from previous interviews through an AI program to formulate new responses. Are these the words we expect from Mack and you? Or are they just replies from an echo chamber of celebrity hood that we want to believe is from him?"
Host (reading Esquire article)Early episode
"If I'm Mack and you, I'm suing. He should sue. I'm suing immediately."
HostEarly episode
"The whole Internet's been pissed about the power scaling. I'm filming a video about it. Yeah, it's like, yeah, invincible. Even the comic, even when I was a child, I'm like, this is some of the worst death baiting in all of media that I've seen."
HostMid-episode
"It's a Ghibli film every week. There's a sequence where Coco is like she like dips her ink on a rock and she's doing like this long, long pull on her like mud soaked like cloak and all of that. And her mother's like her mother's ghost is holding on to her and it's like swelling music."
HostWitch Hat Atelier discussion
"Bug Films knew the series would be incredibly hard to adapt. The already amazing manga panels. So they planned extra storyboards and usual to map out any possible detail. They started with making cocoa and key freeze full outfits to visualize how they would move in them."
Host (reading production notes)Witch Hat Atelier discussion
Full Transcript
Nick, today I'd like to start with a bit of news. If I say, Mac and You in Resonance by Esquire, does that resonate with you? Mac and You in Resonance, as in like terror in resonance, but you put Mac and You in the center of it. I don't know. You know what terror in resonance is? Oh, is that an anime? It's a fully in anime. That or Mac and You is getting recast into the Soul Eater reboot, which people are saying might actually happen because of how much heat all pun intended is coming off the ending of Fire Force. Yeah. Soul Eater remake, I don't know if it needs one. We could get into that. Soul Eater, absolutely needs a remake. The ending of the anime is different than the manga. You put on like the anime. You're right. You're right. Or the ending. You don't like the ending. I mean, they just remake the last season and that would be, because they're just like, I don't want Soul Eater to look like it belongs in 2026. That I agree. Soul Eater is so distinctively like set in that time period and should stay that way. That blood lad, prison school, all should look like that forever. I don't want the animation to be redone. I do want the last chapter to be redone. I would be down for a Soul Eater remake if they keep the same composer and it's just as flute funky as it used to be. Yes, of course. And yeah, if it stays this like sketchbook, like really gritty mid 2000s art style. Which we have seen people do recently. Like, I mean, Takupi's original sin, that animation team would be perfect for it. I was gonna say like, the way that they've accomplished that is just drowning things in film grain. Like we saw it in Clevatis. We see it a little bit in said it's a hero, but you're right. Takupi's original sin, honestly, you know what it is? It's body proportions. Well, yeah. We've, like in the modern day, we focus so much on making everybody like, like very like human in their body proportions outside of like their eyes and shit. Soul Eater people were just like noodle people with like big old circular heads. They're a noodle is hell, but also what Takupi's original sin does really well is like line weight. Like where lines, Demon Slayer kind of popularized this in the mainstream, where like some lines will be thick as fuck, and then it fades into a thinner line. Takupi's original sins line work is all over the fucking board. Like they're just, They're trying to get lines on paper here. So they're like, they're outlines will be thick as all hell. Sometimes like at the end of hair, and then it'll come in really thin. And it looks like this really grungy, messy kind of art style. And Soul Eater feels like that. So it's too polished. We've gotten too polished, and it's all Demon Slayer's fault, which is why we'll never get a Soul Eater remake. I'm sorry, blame Demon Slayer. Anyway, I can't believe you haven't heard of this. Or maybe you have. Making you in residence by Esquire. So Esquire magazine released an article. Are you about to get me hard? Are you about to just show me photos of Mack and you just looking sexy as fuck? No, maybe. Oh. This is pretty dramatic. I, I just, pretty dramatic. It looks good there. Let me read you some of this article. Okay. Okay, ready? They released an interview with Mack and you. Sound engulfs us, yet it's not something we notice until it's gone. In fact, the type of noises we tend to ignore are the ones that repeat. A breeze, brushing against the leaves, or the drumming beat of our hearts. Soon, they blend into the environment. Never present, but incognito. In journalism, conversations make the story. A question given, an answer returned. A short chuckle, a natural snort, or a telling sigh. And what of a void? How does one relay what was not said? In an unprecedented interview for both parties, we call into the abyss to hear what comes back about the man behind one piece's sorrow. Do you, do you know where this is headed? Fucking no, because this is a, it's nothing. This is nothing, it's a nothing intro. It sounds like the fucking beginning of a sci-fi novel, revolving around like some evil God stealing sound from the world. Fucking, oh, sound is a thing that we appreciate until we realize that it's gone. Just say I sat down with Mack and you. I get it, you enjoy talking. Well, let me give you two more paragraphs. Okay. Mack and you's resume shims with what we know of him. A resume. Born Mack and you, Medea, not Medea, Maeda, Maeda's. Spell it out for me. M-A-E-D-A, Maeda. Maeda. Maeda, Maeda. Born Mack and you, Maeda. Maeda, Maeda, yeah. In LA, California, son of famed actor, Sonny Chiba, with both brother and half sister likewise in the business. 15 was the age when he decided to become an actor after watching Haruma Mira, whom he later acted alongside. Haruma Mira. And now here's where we get to the thick of it. Oh, I'm starting to feel like I'm already in the thick of it. You aren't prepared for the thick of it, Nick. Okay, gotcha, good. We were stoked to have some FaceTime with the Japanese-American actor, but a schedule prevented it. So we opted for email correspondence. A list of queries was set in his way and we waited. The silence continued until it was quickly replaced by a ticking clock as deadlines loomed. We had the photo spread, but nothing directly uttered by the 29-year-old. With a driving need for a feature, we had to be inventive. Harnessing our creative license, we pulled his verbatim from previous interviews and fed them through an AI program to formulate new responses. Are these the words we expect from Mack and you? Or are they just replies from an echo chamber of celebrity hood that we want to believe is from him? With the absence of information, can new insight be gained? Nature abhors a vacuum and in its place, a story fills the hollow. And then is the interview with AI Mack and you. You, they need to, whoever wrote that article, whoever prompted an AI to write that article needs to be fired into the center of the biggest sun we can reach. Are you getting existential about the concept of sound and not appreciating it until it's gone? And then being like, we pulled every piece of information about Mack and you and then fed it into the earth dehydrator 3000. By the way, by the way, which is a silent process, mind you, like you're expounding about the purpose of communication and how important the sound we create by fucking vibrating our throats together is for human interaction. And then you close out the article by being, boy, oh boy, do we think this is what, what do you think? Honestly, if they say, hey, listen, I've done hours of research on Mack and you and here's how I think he would have answered these. That is better. It's better because at least it's funny. At least it's commentary. And at least you can like, you can fucking like, bring up your own bias, but they're like, no, we fed his dialogues into an LLM. I would sue, if I'm Mack and you, I'm suing. He should sue. I'm suing immediately. This came out March 6th, by the way, not April 1st, which was everyone's initial reaction. This is why every magazine needs to go away. They just, they need to go away at this point. Dude, it feels like we're living in ghost in the shell. Like them being like, when we shout into the void, is it Mack and you who answers? No, no, it's fucking not, it's not Mack and you. Esquire Singapore, how important is it to you to draw boundaries in your career? Parentheses AI Mack and you. Boundaries are important, but I didn't always have them. When you're young, you want to say yes to everything. I had this anxiety that if I stop, I disappear. Many young actors feel that way. It took the pandemic for me to slow down. It was the first real silence I'd had in years. I heard myself for the first time. He should go into this office and open fire like it's no rush. With three swords. I would have to reenact episode three of the One Piece Live Action with an Esquire office expeditiously. The gall to be. Hey, hey, hey, Mack and you. It would have been a more, fucking interesting article for them to be like, here's the photos of Mack and you. We wanted to get an interview. He's too busy. And it'd be like, ah, that tells me more about Mack and you than you prompting an AI. Well, it's like you said too, if like, if they were like, I did a bunch of research. Here's how I think you would have answered. You could spin that to be funny. You know, here's one that's kind of nuts. How do you deal with disillusionment over the years? If any, AIM, I go home and spend time with my family. AIM. AIM. AI, AI, AIM. They're talking, they're chatting. Look at what's next, hotmail. We're gonna interview fucking hotmail next. It may sound boring, but I give my best when I'm working. So those moments help me reset. Disillusionment happens when you lose sight of why you started. Doing the simple things reminds me that this job, that this is a job I chose and love. It puts the hard parts into perspective. It's just insane that they're like, I go home and spend time with my family. You don't fucking know. You don't know that at all. Oh, cool. We scraped his previous answers to questions like this. Fucking, could you imagine being the person who was like, this article is ready to go? And then it has to pass through editors. And it has to pass through like fucking people, like four layers of people who are like, oh yeah, absolutely run the AI Mac and U interview. I know. Isn't this the craziest thing ever? We're just, we're devolving. We're devolving as a civilization. Like I, what is one thing about yourself you want to improve on? This is an insane thing to ask and not him. And AI. It was like fucking like, well, my penis isn't that big. I'm shooting this up. I'm shooting the office up. He's like, I'm ugly and I wreak. Yeah, yeah, it's like fucking, I'm not as tall as people think I am actually. Patience. With myself. I'm always pushing, wanting to do more. I tell myself to look what I've already done and let that breathe for a moment for running toward the next thing. So anyway, also, for being an interviewer, like you have all day, you have weeks to sit in front of a computer and think up good questions for AI Mac and U. And the question you come up with is, is there any weaknesses you'd like to improve on? Fuck off. Holy shit, dude. That is insane. I, I, I, I'm not sick. Listen, I, listen, I get that we should be more about like protecting people's jobs and labor rights, that guy in particular, that guy in particular shouldn't have a job. Holy shit. That's, that's pissed me off. That's, I don't even, I don't even know what to, I don't, I don't know where to go. I don't know where to go from here right now. Imagine like you died. And I was like, don't worry guys. I trained a large language model on, every single one of Danny Montestran scripts. I'm just gonna ask you, I'll just ask you and I'll use a voice filter on it. I'll just talk to Danny. Do you remember when they did that for Charlie Kirk? At his funeral, they had an AI of this video of this in like the mega church they did this for. At his funeral, AI Charlie Kirk was like, I'm in heaven guys and it's sick here. Don't worry, you'll also be in heaven. It was the craziest thing ever. I just, I just, I don't, I don't ever. At a real man's funeral, who people allegedly cared about. Also who was like allegedly like, like married to a woman who was cheating on him, trying to steal all of his money and might have been assassinated by the FBI. Like, and they were just like fucking, literally gave him the treatment of like that dog. He's like, don't worry, I'm in heaven now. Like that is, oh my God. It'd need everyone over the age of 45 to die immediately. You've been playing too much Clarebz here. Oh my God. Yeah, I know. That's just the plot. Oh, Grama, oh, Grama would be huge, dude. Oh, I'm on, I'm about to fight the painter's for anybody who's wondering where I'm at an expedition 33. I'm Grama's ring it. I'm, I'm fucking painting it right now. I have theories, quick, quick, quick expedition 33 theory. Versus obviously related to the family. We know that, but the husband is immortal and the sister is immortal because their connection to the painter's who is their estranged mother. And there's another sibling. There's another sibling and I don't know who it is. I think there's two sisters and a brother. I think Versus the younger brother, well, and then he has a younger sister. And I think he has an older sister. And that's where I'm at right now. I don't, I don't know. I don't think, I don't think, I don't think killing the painter's is probably a bad thing. I think the story's trying to convince me into killing the painter's. I think that's probably a bad thing. And then that old, old white guy is the bad guy at the center of all of it. Renoir. Renoir, that's his name. Yeah, you're like not that close to done. No, I've 33 hours in the game. There's a lot more game. I know I'm not even done with act two. I unfortunately looked up like, I was like, when do I get to fly and fucking Google AI was like, after you kill the painter's and I was like, oh, fucking thanks. Why wouldn't they be like act three? I do not know. I was trying to go around the map and I was like, I want to get up there. I was like, should I be able to fly by now? And they were like, after you kill the painter's. I was like, so that's not the end of the story. Apparently. Do you like when the music goes? Wow, wow, wow. Wow, wow, wow, wow. My favorite is. Whammy, whammy, whammy, whammy, whammy. Anyway, sorry. My favorite is when you fight a pettank. And it just gets a little silly, gets a little slappy, bassy. I don't know. I just there trying to fucking get that goddamn rolling ball of goods dead before it flees. Yeah, good game. So much fun. It absolutely deserved everything I got. All right. Hi, welcome everybody. Welcome back to what? Can I do one last bit of this? I pulled, honestly, why not? It's related. I can feel my cortisol levels rising by the minute. Whit, I have to do some research because I don't remember what the show was called. Okay. Whit has been exposed for using AI in the opening animation of their latest series. Look up Whit Studios AI. Whit Studios AI. Which is a damn shame because Whit is up there with like UFO table for like what people consider the upper echelon of animation. The one piece studio while that we're already calling. Oh, it's the one piece studio. Yeah. Still though. Slam by fans in anime's first major AI crisis as attack on Titan studio steps in it with fans. Wait, anime first. Wait, Whit did, Whit did the first three seasons. Yeah, this is just fucking. The studio released an apology after receiving backlash and its use of generative AI in the opening sequence of ascendance of a bookworm. Sure. I can't imagine that one was too draw intensive. Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, real tough here to fucking draw girl reading books. To be fair, they probably were like, I don't know how Whit is as like a studio. They probably like. None of them are bad or good. Good, yeah. They probably emailed their animation team and was like, hey, we just got the rights to this manga. Can you whip up an episode tomorrow? They confirmed that AI was used for some background assets in the opening from episode two onwards, a final version with replaced fixed backgrounds will be shown instead. They've also taken down the NC opening video from YouTube in the meantime. Stop releasing unfinished episodes of things. I don't think anybody is hankering so badly for the ascendance of the bookworm that they're like, we gotta, I'm sorry, we gotta fill it out here with generative AI. I mean, it's looking like Crimson Deserted. Yeah, all the paintings itself, which is insane because like all art over a hundred years old is just public domain. And there's so goddamn much of it. Just do all Rembrandt shit. Who cares? I do. Oh, my favorite artist of all time. Cool. Yeah, I'd love to see the fucking, the March of Hades in one of the Crimson Desert, which by the way, still no idea what the game was about. My beat didn't know he was such a Rembrandt head. Oh, I'm a huge Rembrandt. I almost got a Rembrandt back piece. Cool, it's got good lighting. Fuck in, there was a, there's the one where a father is holding his grandfather and like pulling his wife out of like the flood of Moses. And I was gonna do that with all Naruto characters on my back, but I ended up doing Castlevania. I don't know, man. You've made me regret bringing up. I fucking love Rembrandt, that's my favorite artist. I fucking love Rembrandt. That's probably the only artist I actually know anything about. But yes, we have a big-ish week here, ladies and gentlemen. We have a new episode of Invincible, AKA Protein Tubes with the White Sauce. We have the first episode of Season Two of Historia. Did you catch up? I did. Whoa. I'm so excited to talk about Season One of Historia. We also have Witch Hat Atelier, Episode Three, and Daemon's Episode Two. But before we get into this episode, guys, me and Danny are going to be playing a game later. What's the game we're choosing to play? Are we doing poorly translated- Oh, I know, yeah. Poorly translated anime is what I mean. So later in the day, we're gonna be doing a game where me and Danny have to guess what an anime is based off its poorly translated description. And then after that, for the Patreon homies out there, we are doing the third and final chapter to the Zootopia Abortion comic. So if you guys wanna catch that entire, I mean, it's like, after this, it'll be like an hour and a half of content. No. Each one is like 25 minutes. I feel like it takes us like seven minutes to- No, they're long comics. I don't know. I mean, I haven't checked the time, so I assume you're correct. But if you're looking for that entire three chapter run here, I think actually a fourth chapter got run where apparently Judy is JFK. I saw some murmurings on Zootopia News. ZootopiaNews.us. And so, yes, that'll be coming out for Patreon members. But first, before we get into anime, my movie of the week that I wanna talk to Danny about, I think it's gonna be a running bit that I do, especially in this slower anime season, you guessed that I watched Gamer this week. I watched Nacho Libre last week and we had a grandiose all-time talk. And last week, I guessed it was Gamer. Oh, I'm your also, and next week it will be Gamer. Okay. This week, it was just in Timberlake's, in time. If you wanna save a few quid, British gas have a way, you get half price lecky and it's called peak save. On every Sunday, it's the smart thing to do if you're regular folk or furry and blue. 11 till four, let the good times begin. You could charge up the car or take the dryer for a spin. Half price electricity, what joy that brings with British gas peak save, we're taking care of things. T's and C's apply eligible tariffs and smart meter required. There's no one like you and there never will be. People always told me From the producer of Bohemian Rhapsody. Be careful what you do. And the director of Training Day. And mother always told me Will you let your light shine? This April. I had a greatest of all time. There were many legends. But there was only one. Michael in IMAX and cinemas Wednesday, April 22. Let's go! Me and Dorothy were looking for a movie to watch while we folded a literal mountain of laundry. And I'm scrolling Hulu and it's like recommended for you and I've seen it, I've seen it, I've seen it. And then I see on the fringes, on the bow and tree. I see Justin Timberlake's beautiful face, his beautiful drunken driving face. And I go, I'm watching this movie. And man, is it okay? You're wrong! You're dead wrong! That movie's the best! It is. Time is money. Did you miss that? The cast is insane for that movie. It is, it's fucking, what, a net or something like that. Amanda Safery. Amanda Safery, Justin Timberlake, who was being out acted by everyone around him. Fucking Killy and Murphy, Killy and Murphy, one of the greatest working actors alive. He's a time cop. He's a time keeper who times out. And the entire movie is just like the most thinly veiled, fucking meta commentary on the oppressiveness of capitalism. And it's basically a Bank Heist movie, but with time. And it's fun, I guess. It's weird that everyone stopped at 25 and that Justin Timberlake's mom is like his age. And also just incredibly hot. And like, it was just, it was so weird. It was so, it was so, it was fun, but it was weird. Oh, fucking the guy from the big. Yes, Leonard from the Big Bang TV. He died from having too much time on his hands. He brings himself to death with the decade. Matt Bomber, who's Dorothy's like, oh, I would leave you if Matt Bomber gave you a chance kind of thing. She's in it. Dorothy flipped out. She was like, holy shit, Matt Bomber. Yeah, it's wild. What, what are you wrapping your tiny little brain around? Do you not like when the banks are called time-shares? Of course that's good. Do you not like when Jonathan Galecki, Leonard from the Big Bang Theory, is like seven minutes for a coffee. It was five minutes yesterday. He's like, yeah, tomorrow will be 10 minutes. You don't like any of that? I like when his mom's getting on a bus and they're like two hours to ride the bus. That's like, me and Dorothy were spending the entire movie trying to figure out, well, I was like, what is the fucking denomination of currency here? And we could not figure it out. Cause it's like two hours to ride, public transportation, and everyone's like, like the Justin Timberlake's talking that like, nobody in the ghetto in Dayton ever has more than a day on their own. It's two hours to remember. You need me to spend fucking 12%, 12% of my fucking entire worth to ride the bus? You know what's bullshit about it too, is that like as you ride the bus, it's still like your- Lose more time. Your time is still progressing. There's some fun. So it's two hours and the tax is the fact that like, it's also time. 100%. And there's some fun commentary. Like I do like, at the core it's a good idea. Cause they're like- Well, explain the idea real quick. Cause I guarantee no one has seen this movie. It is literally time is money. That is it. Like everyone is born, everyone is born with a fucking clock on their arm. And you age until you turn 25. But when you turn 25, you get a year. So if you didn't get any more time, you would die at 26 years old. However, if you work, if you do anything like that, you get time. They pay you in time. Everything is time. The fucking tolls are time. Coffee is time. Time is time. I literally asked Kelly and Murphy. She's like, I'll give you 10 minutes for an hour. And I, it took me four minutes to figure out. It took me time to figure out. And I was like, oh, sex. And then, and then he was like, oh, you're 60. But she doesn't look it. Cause everyone's 25. And so, yeah. She fucking everything is time. And then there's like, there's like different time zones. Yeah. Right. There are times. Okay. The different, different wealth section live in different time zones. Justin Timberlake is born in the ghetto. And nobody under 25 is able to use their time. But there's also minute men. And minute men are gangsters who steal everyone's time. And, but if you die with time on you, no one can take your time anymore. It just goes into the ether. And then there's, Or back to the government. And then you can, you can trade time with people. Adjust through a simple act of a Roman handshake. If you grab somebody's forearm, you just start leaching their bank account out of their body. And then there's a weird, there's a weird principle where Justin Timberlake's like, my dad was a strong arm. And it was like, what the fuck is a strong arm? And then, and then there's a barely explained mechanic where you basically just grip and twist somebody's arm. And whoever arm is up top gets the time. Yeah. There's a liar's dice. There's a liar's dice, which makes no real sense. Justin Timberlake wins 1100 hours or two years on a poker table. I guess it's like a fucking like arm wrestle kind of. I guess. Or it's like you physically, it's just a strength thing. But Justin Timberlake's like, my father always taught me, you wait until you're down to just 10 seconds. And then he starts watching your time. And then you fucking get him. And the guy for whatever reason, and then Justin Timberlake grabs the guy's gun and he shoots his guys. And he grabs the gun off his ankle and it just like pops all three of them immediately. Yeah. Yeah. You don't like that? It was great. It was fine. It's an objectively very fun movie with some actual like real commentary. Justin Timberlake was the wrong leading man. And that's the most 2013 they could have done. They're like, there's no one hotter than Justin Timberlake right now. We need him in this serious dramatic role. And everyone just fucking elapsed him. Got it. I gotta say though, that movie may be real weird about the Seafreed lady. Amanda. Yeah. I started looking into some of her other works. Something about the short hair. Some of the short hair really did it for me. It's like her worst look ever. She looks like Edna Mode from The Incredibles. If Edna Mode was young and hot, which she probably was at some point. Yeah. Probably. I'd fucking, Edna Mode could get it. To this day, to this day Edna Mode could get it dude. Cause you know, like, you know, like you would have, you probably don't know. You want a mean woman. I want a mean woman who's rich. Yes. I want a rich, mean old woman, 100%. Who's just like, I'm just like, she's just like, I'm walking behind her. I'm holding your six bags. Each one has a cat in it. And I'm just waiting for her to die. How do you feel about male and women dominated sports, baby? How do you feel about Maryland Streep? Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. 100% Maryland Streep. Dude, fucking Maryland Streep could get it. Who's the one who bakes? Who was Snoop Dogg? Who's like maybe in prison. Betty White. But Betty White is very dead. Yeah. That's her. No. Martha Stewart. Martha Stewart. Dude, fuck it. Maryland Streep. Martha Stewart. Cher. All of them could get it. 100%. Cher's less my type. I'd say on the spectrum of those three women, Cher last. Maryland Streep first. Yeah. Maryland Streep's not fucking. That's my lady for real, for real. Okay. And Snoops. Oh no. I'm making a Martha Stewart. No. Yeah. And Martha Stewart. She's the middle ground. She's like true neutral. Cher's like, I'd say chaotic evil. And then Martha Stewart is neutral good. And then Maryland Streep is like chaotic good. You're really not using that diagram. No, I'm not. I'm not. Wouldn't it be like chaotic good and neutral good, lawful good? Lawful good. That's the word I was looking for. But yeah, all that is to say, we don't have them in the anime and talk about here. But I'll tell you what we are gonna open with. Unfortunately, Daymonds of the Shadow Realm. You think that's the worst one of the week? I think that's the worst one of the week. I think with story is better. Yes. Okay. Yes. There's some good with story. This all will do this. I'll tell you this. Episode two of Daymonds of the Shadow Realm. Pretty funny. It's fun. It's a funny show. I like the God coming down and being like, here I am on my apparently freshly decapitated horse. Do you guys think the horse had just scars around its entire neck like Kenjaku was piloting it? Yeah, that was wild. Horsejaku. Yeah, a horsejaku. There's no rules against him being in a horse body. UG's eyes are fluttering open in the hospital and he sees his mom for the first time. Just a horse going crazy. It's like, sorry, your dad was a freak. I don't know what to tell you. I rode. I tried a woman first. He turned me down. Oh yeah. There were just a lot of really funny moments in this. I love the protagonist still. He's like, Yuzu, Yoru? Yeah, something like that. Yeah, I think it's Yoru. He's got really funny exclamations where he's like, he's a little like Edward Elrich. It's literally exactly that. Yeah, where he's like, the woman with the jaws comes down and he's like, what is this tooth monster? Yeah. And then later she's like, hmm, you look about 16. You're probably the kid I'm looking for. And he's like, well, maybe, but I'm 17. The guy's like, no, to them you're 16. Which I guess I'm supposed to understand what's happening here. Like, back in the day, do they start? Isn't it, it's like Korea where they start you at one. In Korea they start at one. Oh, so I guess back in the old days in Japan they probably started you at one. Yeah, I guess so. But I love that he's like, this dude's like, this day sucks, what do you mean? Objectively it does, but then he just starts lacing motherfuckers with arrows. Left and right are, if I could voice one complaint about this episode, left and right are two immediately strong. Cause like, first off, it's like very clearly like a stand system, right? And I've never been the biggest fan of like a stand system cause like, how does a stand get stronger? You know, it's like, usually it's like, people, they get stronger, like people get stronger. I guess maybe, but then it's like, Can Sukuna get stronger? Sukuna gets stronger, Sukuna's not a stand, but Sukuna only gets stronger cause he gets more fingers. Okay. You know, there's a logical linear progression line for him. Like left and right, left by herself is just yanking apart like these fucking clankers, clap, clap. What am I looking for here? Crack clackers? Clackers. Please stop guessing. That game, that game. You're out of time. I'm fucking, whatever you call it. She just felt like you loading a revolver with every... Just pour. Like I'm not finding the empty barrels here. And so she's just pulling these teeth apart and the blonde girl who I still love, it's like, I'm losing a 2v1. And I'm like, these guys are way too strong out the gate. Is there a more iconic pair than left and right? If we go by like chainsaw man logic, where it's like... Oh, you have to be like, they're like, way more people think of this is a pair than they do are left or right. North, west, south, east, west. Peanut butter, jelly. Peanut butter and jelly would be huge. And it would just be like the teeth monster, but it'd just be like a really gloopy sandwich. It's open and enclosing. Socks? Right, that's a tough one. But then it's like... Left sock, right sock. Exactly. It all comes to left and right. And then like east and west is kind of left and right. North and south, up and down. Yeah, up and down I'm sure. Up and down's gotta be out there. No making appearance. If peanut and butter, if peanut butter and jelly were like a left and right situation, where they're like personified and like humanoid, not like a giant teeth. Yeah. Which one would you think is... Peanut butter. Mask and which one's fam? Jelly. Peanut butter's mask, jelly's fam. Yeah, I agree. I don't know why, but I agree. It's something about the fact that like, first off, chunky peanut butter guy here. So you get the chunks in there, you get the masculine. Also like jelly's sweet, you know? And it's got that little like, it's got color to it. You know, it's got a little... You just look at a jar of jelly and you're like... You just look at a jar of jelly and you start, you just salivate it. That's a really good question, 100%. I also understand why they chose right to be masculine. I, yes, I guess, yeah. It's unexplainable. But I only know that growing up as someone who's left-handed and for some reason... Explained a lot, if I'm being real. What does that mean? I just, you know, I'm sorry, wrong answer. Growing up as a left-handed boy in like the mid-2000s, you're bullied for just existing. You were like, oh, you using your gay hand? Yeah. I guess. You're just trying to struggle to use scissors. Everyone's like, stupid. Yeah, I love that for you. But yeah, for some reason, right is seen as masculine. Maybe because it's the dominant. It's the dominant, yeah. Yeah, exactly. No, they're not. They're not, okay, but here's question, up-down. Up is feminine. Because when I think down. I like that. Because we're breaking the glass ceiling and that's where it's up. It's up, baby. I see up as very like nimble and airy. Oh, you're talking like cheerleader, like a fucking thrower kind of situation. Like down is the base, you know? I guess. Yeah. Well, if they're... I'm seeing a triangle. If I'm creating these characters, right? If I'm imagining my fan edit of what up and down are gonna look like. Yeah, I think up can fly and it's kind of like a nymph. And down is like, looks like right in my head. Just like a wide fucking rectangle of a man. Right. Because I'm sturdy. Right in this, left and right. Oh, right, got you. Keep the fuck up. I'm sorry, I saw WR. I was trying to find the other, the right character in FMAB or something like that. Right in a race. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, like very wide like earth bender type. If they have to be. Have you been watching the boys? No. Okay. Not this new season. They just released though, this show to character who was like a rock man. Okay. But he also was like a rock puddle cause he had come on himself so much that he had become. That's thems the boys. Thems the boys, dude. It's definitely, oh, they're boys in it. What if Cyclops from the X-Men shot calm out of his eyes? Buddy, there's a heavy emphasis in the first episode on the guy whose ability is dick. I love the boys until it's like, they introduce a guy who can get small and I'm like, he's going in someone's car. Oh, he's absolutely going in someone's car immediately. And then he's gonna sneeze doing cocaine and a penis and blow somebody out like up from the inside or something. They love it. They love it. We're gonna use the hell out of this R rating and nobody can say anything about it. Demon's the Shadow Room. Yeah. Big episode for foot guys, I wrote. It's a crazy extent. In the way that you're like- Why, because left and right are chewless? No, left does this like, I forgot what she did. She must have, oh, it's when she kicked the fucking teeth. And there's this like really long, really like, well animated and fluid extend-o shot of her foot, like coming up. It was a big week for the foot people. Because of Witch Hat? Yeah. Yeah, I didn't count that one though. I mean, that's fair, but I was like watching it and I was like, I don't like how much detail was going into this. I think there's a reason for that and I'll get into it when we get to Witch Hat. Love that. I also think there's a reason for it. I think there's a reason to like, because of what was happening in that sequence, it makes sense to like linger on that and like make it feel like important. But like, man, foot people are eating, I guess. Question mark? They be eating. I wrote, I forgot how funny this mangaka is, which I already kind of- Oh yeah, she's great. Oh, when they get in a car and he's like, oh well, it's made of metal and there's a transmission and she's like, the horses are in here. And they're like, oh yeah, that's where the horses are. It's also like, I don't know if I, I was literally trying to put myself in that situation because the same thing is happening or just happened in Baki, where like Musashi Miyamoto, the legendary samurai comes back to life and he gets like put in a car and he's looking at screens and all of that. And like, I was trying to conceptualize, let's say you got like ported 400 years into the future, what would like baffle you? Like what, like if you saw something, you'd be like, that makes, because like- I don't know because we have so much of sci-fi. That's my thing. I feel like- I feel like the invention of- It doesn't work forward. Right, the invention of like TV and movies has kind of ruined our ability to be surprised by anything. Cause if they were like, oh, you know, it's like Newtonian fluid that floats and you can like float it down the street and it's like, it's replaced cars. Like nanobots have actually been invented and like, they can be whatever you want. They're like, we've created teleportation or shit like that. Like, I'd be like, okay. Yeah. But I, we have no ability to like, disbelieve anything anymore. Like if you had, it took somebody from like 1650 and put them here now, they'd be like, what and or the fuck. Yeah. But like now- They'd be like, is this your God? Yeah. They'd be like, yeah, fucking idolatry. Like this, are you kidding me? Like where's the shrine? Where do I put the money? Where do I put my child? Yeah. Yeah, so that- Where do I put my wife's severed hand? I don't know, they were getting up two back then. She was thinking about stealing. So we had to fucking get ahead of it here. Do you think the village was bad? The daemon's village? Because like everyone's like, or it's so like, they're like, oh, Asa, the character, the sister, seems to be like a sympathetic character, right? And then in the intro, they like show all the characters, they're gonna be like the key points and they're all together. The blonde girl is with everybody else. Like she's not being framed as an antagonist. So I think like this is all like, kind of like one big misunderstanding kind of. Yeah, I could see that. And then they talked about how they replaced Asa's sister with whatever that blood thing was to keep the main character there. Yeah, I mean, the only thing I've read from this manga or watched is Full Metal Alchemist. And that is all about like paranoia and like government like, distrust. And so like in Full Metal Alchemist, that's the bit where it's like the government everyone works for is evil. And so Mustang has to work like very discreetly so that they don't find out that he's working against them. And you don't realize that a mestria is bad until like 30 episodes in. So it's like, I could see this village being fucked up. Yeah, because like they kill so indiscriminately but they also don't kill any of the kids, right? And so it's like, oh, there's like a little bit of like, we're possibly like padding out these guys being morally correct. And then like, like I said, like they're like, oh, they replaced your sister after she escaped because they wanted you to stay there. They didn't want to give you an opportunity to leave kind of thing. So I'm like, oh, I could see a world where these are the bad people and therefore like the blonde girl killing all of them. Like that's actually, we're gonna look back on that and be like, oh, that was sick, you know? Because I do genuinely, I think she's too likable to be an antagonist. I think she can be. I mean, Envy was likable and like lost. Sloth. Were they? Or not sloth. Does Gluttony strike you as an antagonist? I, but he also doesn't be as. Gluttony doesn't strike you as anything. That's like Gluttony doesn't have enough personality for you to be like, oh, I need Gluttony to survive. Gluttony is also personality. Envy came across as fucking, Envy the guy who killed the fucking Hughes? Yes. Real likable fucking acts there. But it was like, wow, thank God father of the year is dead. Thanks, Envy. They got fun personalities. I think Lust kills Hughes. No. Yes. Envy kills Hughes. Because Envy takes the shape of Hughes' wife. Lust can't transform. Yeah, I thought he gets fucking fingers. She can create fingers. Envy, he can create fingers. What's the point of having Lust then? The Lust's whole gimmick was the fingers. I mean, Lust's a part of Lust's gimmick is fingers as well. I'm pretty sure Envy kills Hughes. That's why, that's why, no, that's why Colonel Mustang is so upset at Envy. He also kills Lust. That's why you're getting confused. Because Colonel Mustang kills Envy and Lust. Yeah, well, he does kill both of them. I know that. Yes. He's snapping. Envy kills her. Yeah. Yeah, all right. Well, they're likable, I'd say. Yes. I mean, I guess. Not really. You don't have to agree. I was literally just trying to scroll to the other part of my notes. I think we're probably both in agreement of what comes up next. Hmm. Wistoria? I love Wichita's LEA. This is my new freerun. Unless, what, invincible? Ready to launch your business? Get started with the commerce platform made for entrepreneurs. Shopify is specially designed to help you start, run, and grow your business with easy customizable themes that let you build your brand. Marketing tools that get your products out there. Integrated shipping solutions that actually save you time. From startups to scale-ups, online, in-person, and on the go. Shopify is made for entrepreneurs like you. Sign up for your $1 a month trial at Shopify.com slash setup. Up next, it's Bread Flare and his new band. Oh, my God, I'm back again. On that vacation, oh, everybody's been. Gonna bring new games, gonna show you now. A new game party. Find new dropping hits every week. Find the new slots. I'm back, back, you see tonight. 18 plus be gambler wear total. That's right. Yeah, invincible. Yeah, OK. This episode is so goddamn stupid, Danny. I am up to my fucking eyeballs with this fuck ass universe. God damn it. This episode five. Oh, I'm so sick of invincible, dude. I'm so sick of it. This is post conquest. Oh, I'm so fucking sick of this universe, dude. I am gonna be. Listen, everyone understands that I have a very fucking love and hate relationship with invincible. And if we're being real, it's getting closer to hate every goddamn episode. I don't know if you like this show. I what do you mean, Mark gets fucking run through with the with the goddamn Viltramite special fucking hellstab from the third Rycage school conquest. Scoops out his guts, scoops out his guts, starts pulling out. I'm like a fucking like a goddamn physical 100 challenge gets all 99 yards of his guts out. And then they just tie his shit back together. They literally Nolan's just like, oh, he'll be all right. He just needs the rest. I'll just I'll just use a little bit of my cloak here to tie him back together. And then and then Mark just his guts don't go septic. They don't. He's got he just sits there with an open stomach, loosely, loosely bandaged for three goddamn months and because and because they're cracking eggs into his mouth and slowly feeding him. His guts just work now. Yeah, no scar is crazy. No scar, no nothing. There's a bit where Oliver goes. Is he getting better? And then Omni-Man goes, he's strong. He will recover. And I wish he was like, he's strong. His spine will grow back. Not only his like his organs will reconnect themselves. His skin, muscle tissue will all fucking reattach. Like what happened to his back? What if he went straight through? Yeah, I have no answer for you. I'm astounded. We were both trying to be like, how does Mark recover from this? And you're like, I think Tech Jacket comes down and uses some kind of like nano by and we both forgot that fucking Tech Jacket was a hidden a little capsule with Alan under the fucking playing video games for three months. I can't believe Tech Jacket doesn't show up and just put him in the suit. And they're like, it healed him. I honestly would have been better. Yeah. Anything would have been better than this. Yeah. Oh, fucking just stop injured. They just either make him invincible or don't. Yeah. Oh, it's driving me up a goddamn wall. It's tough. I mean, the whole Internet's been pissed about the power scaling. I'm filming a video about it. Tom already. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, yeah, invincible. Even the comic, even when I was a child, I'm like, this is some of the worst death baiting in all of media that I've seen. Yeah. And yeah, right now there's this thing with Robert Kirkman, where people are like trying to give him out. Severe of adrenaline theory. Where what? Like if you if you have adrenaline, you can be stronger. Yes. I mean, that's just like our real world adrenaline theory. But like there's a theory that the Invincible fandom had where the reason of Mark was able to like defeat so many Viltramites is because of Viltramites don't have adrenaline like biologically. And he does because Mark keeps ending up in situations where all of a sudden he's more powerful than his opponent. And that's what wins it for him. And that would answer a lot of this shit, like why he was able to choke out conquest for conquest, de-gutted him, you know? And Robert Kirkman was like, oh, these dumb power scalers, this and that. Everyone's pissed at Robert Kirkman. Brother, you you write an action comic. Like I did it. You're like focusing on the storytelling and all of that. There needs to be consistency in power. Otherwise, nothing means anything. No, it's gone ridiculous. And you're right. Nothing does mean anything because any like everything is just as much of a problem as they deem it randomly. Yes. Like we have no ability to be like, oh, well, like Mark should be able to beat an SNL because like X and Y and Z and Alan like, oh, that's a lower ranking Viltramite Alan should be able to because he did this and fucking like. But like instead, like we see Nolan struggling. And listen, I don't know. Everyone was pissed about Nolan not being able to fly off the planet when he was fighting those like the screaming ice monster things. Everyone was like, oh, how how was he able to sit on the edge of an event? Horizon and not in not escape a planet before a jumping entity can catch up with them. But like what they forget is that like that planet is very specifically said to have ridiculously high gravity. That's why all the things are so powerful. That probably less powerful than the event horizon of a black hole. But like there's there's at least an excuse there. Every time I see a Viltramite struggle with something, I'm like, why is the coalition of why wasn't this in Nolan's books? I know they really don't feel that strong. No, like it's like, oh, well, you know, Omni-Man destroyed a whole city, destroyed all of Chicago when he fought invincible. He lit an atmosphere on fire by flying. He literally goes to tracks, his lights and atmosphere on fire. Like it's just flying through the ground to all of that. And then he's like, this bug, this bug, Oliver, I it's going to take seven. I have to be consumed by this bug to eat it to kill it. Yeah, that's true. He destroyed a whole planet in like episode two. You're right. But because I was going to say, yeah, it's like it's so hard to actually respect or fear Viltramite in the show because it's all over the fucking place. Like, yeah, it'll go up against some random tentacle monster and be like, this is going to kill me. And then yeah, extinct an entire planet. Yes. And then like there's also just such inconsistencies and like it takes six people to carry the Viltramite ship. But like we've seen fucking we've seen Omni-Man pick up a mountain. We've seen Mark seasons ago pick up a gigantic glacier. Like the entire thing where Mark is like 42 percent stronger, 66 percent faster. And then like there's just no quantifiable increase to any abilities. There's no there's no linear power scaling. And like I get it. Power scaling is not important. And like that's I it's a little important because none of this shit matters. It's not important to Robert Kirkman is what I was trying to say. It's not important to him. But like it has it has to be because like power is a part of storytelling in an action based comic. It just is when when the fucking plot like engine of your series is combat. There has to be that has to be a consideration. Well, the whole the story is about power scaling, even if he doesn't realize that somehow. Like the whole bit of the story is that Viltramites are like the most terrifying empire in the entire universe. Yeah. But there's only 50 of them. Yeah. So like that's power scaling. You know what I mean? Being like, oh, are they still like as imposing with only 50? Maybe if we get this guy and this guy and this guy, then we can beat them. But like otherwise it's literally filler if we don't have like a tangible like them recruiting a bunch of people is actual filler. If we don't know if those people can even do anything to which jacket literally cannot like that. Jack is there to fight against enslaved people and kill them. Yeah. That's all all tech jacket does. It just blast away enslaved people that are like literally like omniumans like try not to kill them. And then we cut the tech jacket just like fucking plasma bombing seven of them. Yeah. And it's like if the bit with Viltramites is that it's like, oh, each Viltramite like soldier is, you know, a hundred times stronger than anything Earth has. And then Thrag is the top of that. It's like, yeah, what is gathering all of these? Nobody's even going to do that. You know, if you've scaled them so high and then you're just lying about it, you know. And then, but like there's also just some of them are getting pieced. Like like, like, and then it feels like every fight where we see the Viltramites versus the good guys like the Planet Coalition, like Space Racer just blows away fucking Fumans shoe guy. Yeah. Everyone was like, all right, P my John invincible. I forget what his name actually was, but like he gets blown away with his gun and it's like, my God, that like fucking is so Viltramites aren't that strong. They're not imposing. Well, I get it. Space Racer and his Infinity Gun are obviously ridiculous, but like that's still a person they have. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just, I don't know. It's it's insane. It's absolutely insane to me. I also wrote one. When the hell is Alan going to step up? Alan, what do you mean? Alan doesn't do fucking did glee dog. They gave him the biggest biceps known like hilarious, like inconveniently sized biceps and he's just he's just doing nothing with him. I guess they keeps running into like filler Viltramites. I guess there's like four of them. Yeah. Fucking and listen, the parts of this episode are very fun. Once we stop doing the fucking Arctic Monkeys montage, well, Oliver and Nolan learn how to be a family. You catch that was like the most Arctic Monkeys ass song they played over this montage here. And then I they acknowledged that Oliver wants to fuck a lobster. And then that's and that's where that's where the episode got fun. Do you like that? I loved it. Well, he's like, I wanted to fuck that lobster. And then I ate it like a real Viltramite. Yeah, look, that's true. Like everything is ours. It made me feel fuzzy, but don't worry, pop up. I still killed it. Yeah. So like fucking tech jacket, count your days, I guess. Yeah. But yeah, no, the fight, the fight itself on Thracno, not Thraxas, Thymestria, the fight on Thymestria is very fun. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's good. There's a lot of complaints from people talking about the Viltramite retreat doesn't look as good in the show as it does in the comic. I mean, fucking what does, which is just I'm sorry, that's just life. Welcome to season four of Invincible colon. This doesn't look nearly as good as the comic and it probably never will. Yeah, definitely never will. There's this is just the art style. It just has like a fucking not equivalent art style and everyone has to get over that. What if season five, Robert Curtin's like, all right, OK, send to Japan, get it done over there. Yeah, fucking do it, please. Have you seen what people are mad about Thrag with? No. Look, Thrag is always looked like white Drake. Thrag is like the king of I know. In the show, he has such a round little deviled egg of a face. Let me show you a comparison. Have you seen people reanimating it, reanimating the episodes? Yeah, I mean, it's always sick and like the animators always come out and are like, oh, well, actually, blah, blah, blah. But it's like it's always annoying to me this discourse, which happens every year now. It's cyclical. But it's like people complain that it doesn't look that good. And then the animators come out and they're like, well, actually, it can't look that good because there's this many details. And also like we have this budget and this time. Yeah. And I feel like there's such an understanding that Amazon's the issue. And so any time no one's like, oh, hey, creatives, fuck you. I know, Amazon. So it's like this back and forth like snark is like just pissing me off now because it's like, hey, instead of being like, well, it has to look like this. It'd be sick if you're like, yeah, like we're capable of better. Yeah. Amazon's just dicking us. Yeah, it's like, hey, today's version of the East India Trading Company is not giving enough money to Invincible to make it better looking. Yeah, because it's just like, I don't know. And then there's all this like, oh, well, it's not that it looks bad. It's just like doing Ryan Othley's art style. And there were two artists who did the Invincible comic. Gotcha. And I won't say which is like better. But like whatever. But it's like, well, if they're doing Ryan Othley's art style and I've seen the other art style, I'll go ahead and say it. It's not Ryan Othley's. Yeah, I mean, it's just like it's subjective, but I don't know. Try to get Ryan Othley on the podcast. No, because I genuinely believe art is subjective, but I'm also like so annoyed at all of the like cope because it's like so fine to be like, hey, the comic looks great. People are putting in like better work where they're just shading the show. Like it just is a little shading and a little extra detail. We know it's not the animators fault solely. Yeah. Let people bitch at Amazon. It's OK. Yeah. Listen, Jeff Bezos is going to sleep just fine if we're like, fuck you, spend more money on this. But yeah, one guy did a recoloration. His drag. He's got like a little baby face. He's truly egg. He's eggular. He's very eggular. And then in the comic. He's got like a way sharper job. Oh, God. Well, this is where it's like not about the artist or it's not about the animation. It's just the art style is like you can't have a sharper job. You can't have a sharper job without shading. That's the thing. Yeah, you can. It's just a difference between a curve and a sharp edge. I guess. But like if they literally took the drag we have and just like contoured the bottom of his cheek, they could give him a sharper job. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, 100%. But I'm saying like it goes beyond like it's it's kind of the same thing. Like where it's like, oh, we're not. There's no shading. There's no facial expressions. There's no lighting. That's like one guy did lighting of an entire episode in one week. Oh, really? One week. And he was like, so clearly it's not a time issue. It's not a constraint issue. Like it's like I for the conquest versus Mark episode. He just changed the lighting look substantially better. Yeah, just like hire six more people, you know, like truly you can afford it. I'm sure. Stop spending it on like a list celebrity non-voice actors. Yeah, the main cast. You're right. Alan didn't have to be Seth Rogen. Alan does not need to be Seth Rogen. The main cast is good. But like any ancillary character that I'm like, oh, I know them. That pisses me off. Does it need simply doesn't need to happen. Every time I hear Alan, like Seth Rogen is doing a good job with Alan, but it's also just him doing Seth Rogen. I mean, it's good. But if he's like sucking up like three million dollars of the budget and get his ass out of it, give that to some Japanese studio to animate you three million dollars in episode. You're getting seasons out of a fucking Japanese studio. It's crazy. There was a bit where Oliver is like, you said you didn't love my other mom and I want an omniman to be like, just like Oliver, I lied to all of the women in my life. What do you want me to feel about your mom? I'll tell you I felt that is the most like he was just like, no, no, I was lying to her and then like Debbie comes out and she was like, what the fuck? It was a real like Chris Hansen moment where Debbie comes out. Look, we got you. Yeah. All you omniman is the most fucking people. Please harass I've ever seen in my life. I love him being like, no, I didn't I didn't lie to your mom. I lied to Debbie about lying to your mom. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. What do you want me to say right now? Also, I'm lying. Yeah. Right now, maybe I'm going to go and cover my bases here. At one point he goes, Omni-Man goes, you'll starve to death if you don't eat something. And then Oliver goes, I wish you will. You mean you. But also he lasts weeks. How are you? Last night. They fucking like he's almost pulled it off. Actually, yeah, that was just a funny line. I hate the beards. I hate the beard on Mark specifically. I did. I just made me uncomfortable. It reminded me of my past. I like I like them focusing on Oliver's beard and then being like, he's like, yeah, I'm going a little bit. That I related to. I like that Mark can grow a beard or I like that they show him with one because it makes it feel like time is passing. That's one of the cooler gimmicks of the invincible is that like back in its day when the comic released, like Spider-Man never aged in shit. And so like having it start where he's in high school and now he's like what a post grad would be like 23, 24 at this point. He's 20. He couldn't drink when they all get together at dinner. He they don't serve Mark alcohol because he can't drink it. Twenty years old. Well, regardless, he's older than high school. Yes, he's because he went to like one year of college. So yeah, he's like, yeah, like 20 years old. Still cool that he's aging and like high school him probably wouldn't have been able to grow that beard. Probably not. Yeah, that incredible, luscious, luscious beard. I think it's cool enough. People are writing him about the beard. And it's like, yeah, he's fucking to have Asian and usually people don't grow great beards. Well, he actually it's funny because I've been seeing videos. Which is why because no one grows the fuck out of a beard. Invincible beard. I've been seeing people being like, oh, that's so funny. They gave him like a Korean type of beard. Yeah, he can't grow one in the comics where he's white either. Wait, is he white in the comics? Yeah. Wait, like Debbie's is Debbie white? I think Debbie's just straight up white. Yeah. Really? Oh, that's crazy. I mean, otherwise, I don't think they like mention her race. But like, I think he's meant to be white. Yeah, they don't really ever bring up the fact that like Debbie is Korean or anything like that. The only time they ever really touch on is like when they cook dinner. And it's like a bunch of like Korean side dishes and stuff. It's just the fact that it's like Sandra Oh and Stephen Yon. They've gotten the same like ethnic people. That makes sense. Well, I mean, that's pretty much all I have for this. I mean, it was just to find it was a fine episode. Last week, the fight is awesome. I loved watching Mr. Krabs fight against Optimus Prime. Yeah, true. That was wild. That's fair. Also, don't filter my skin stronger the older they get. Yeah. So he should be the star. I don't know. Whatever. Robert Kirkman doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. If you are bold, if you're a bold filter, Mike, because like that's the whole idea that like why Quentz Conquest was so strong because he was super old. And like, I get it, like, Thrags the number one top G, whatever the fuck. Like, I get it. Like, he can be the strongest, but I'm like, no wonder Thaddeus or Thaddeus or whatever his name is like putting the beat in the brakes off general. Krabs, Krabs. Yes, something like that. Because like he's old. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I like the episode enough. I'm used to Invincible's bullshit because I read the comic, but it is funny seeing people like and I'm also like in between on the bullshit where it's like some of it. I'm like, that's the point of Invincible and the other. I'm like, yeah, the power scaling is whack and the death baiting stupid. Yeah. But yeah. Cool. All right. You want to talk about Wistoria? Joe, you finished. You finally finished season one. I watched all of season one for those for contacts for those who haven't been with us for all that long. Me and Danny used to do homework and we used to assign anime to each other. The reason we have done it in a while is because we simply had too much shit to watch in the last couple of seasons. Just don't do it. You also and then and the reason is Danny just simply didn't do it. And the last thing I ever assigned Danny was season one of Wistoria. I do watch, I think, episode two five times. Yes. Because it's awesome. Because it's I like the bit where he's like conducting in the sky. Yeah. 100 percent. Severus snake. Yep. Oh, this is Edward. When he's battling against the the long haired black dude, the black haired guy. Yeah. Um, how did you like season one? Now that it's done. It's pretty good. Yeah, I get what you were saying where you're like, this is just like a generic wizard fantasy slop kind of 100 percent. Yes. It's carried by the fact that will is like hard as fuck. Yes. Will is so will surfboard. The protagonist, of course, is really fucking cool. I am my exact quote on it is it's Harry Potter of Harry Potter was likeable. Like if it's Harry Potter of Harry Potter as a character was likeable because like it is the most classic like zero to hero magic school story of all time. But it's animation is gorgeous. It's art styles fantastic and its MC is lovable as shit. Like there's like it's not like he's some douchey like, oh, they bullied me. So I hate them. He's this golden ray of sunshine who's using what he has access to to try and like just like see an old friend again, basically. And you're like, oh, I love you. And the same way that like Jin Woo is kind of the best part about soul leveling in terms of like, wow, he's the first power fantasy likeable MC to me. Will is like the first truly likeable magic school MC. Like I like. Asta counts. They spend school counts. They spend exactly zero time in school in Black Clover. It's only my hero doesn't count as a magic school. No, no, I know. I actually I actually don't. OK, I would say it falls into superhero category. I would say magic school and superhero school are distinctly different categories. The difference between magic and a power wand. Wand, absolutely. How many wand based shows? How many elves are in like, like there's always elf discourse. They're like, oh, where'd you get this magic? This magic came from my hero has elves. Heteromorphs might as well be an elf. Why not? May as well. Definitely not be the same thing. The entire discourse surrounding elves is wow, they're too fuckable. The entire discourse around heteromorphs is that you want them shunned. Oh, that's my discourse. You want them in a different part of town. The dwarf discourse. Um, I guess that's fair, but that's not dwarves or that's the entire backbone of the story is that we lose a dwarf, basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Different sky high versus Harry Potter and to me, sky high better. It's like the same thing because they're all found. It's it's foundation. The same power. The main difference. Yes, is what you just said is that everybody is working with the same tool. Yes, but not really in Wastoria. What are my issues with it? Is it the magic system is too vast? Or are you joking? I what do you mean? Everyone's there's five elements. Yeah, that's vast. Well, I know it's not there. Oh, I'm Danny modern. I'm those witch had a telly a pill developer. I've seen them draw one rune. It's faster than fucking Harry Potter. I guess not really. Harry Potter is four spells. Three of them are forbidden. Yes, there's a lot of spells, a lot are redundant. But it's like with story was disappointing when they were like, oh, here are the antagonist characters. Ice wizard, fire wizard, wind wizard. Wow, this is fucking this is the peak of creativity. OK, what about sword wizard? OK, what about there's their sword wizard, there's a luxury wizard. I just I just saw a sword wizard and it was called Sentence to be a hero and it was better. That sword is definitely a sword wizard. That's what will is also kind of a sword wizard. But there's also the guy and I'm mixing this up with Mashel. I might be mixing this up because there's a guy in either Mashel or Wastoria who can summon a fuck ton of swords. It's Mashel. Never mind. That didn't happen. Yeah, that's the most creative one is the elf. The Snape elf is just wind magic. It's a luxury magic. It's Genjutsu. They all do Genjutsu a little bit. It's a mouth shit. Well, but no, I mean, like the ice guy also does Genjutsu except the illusions are magic is kind of fun. No, it's but I mean, it's like like my hero is so exciting because everyone's power is like so fucking weird. Yeah, Godzilla, you have a Windex, you have sticky balls. They're weird. Yeah, you're proving me right. Grenade for hands is better than just fire. At least they got their ice and fire guy out of the way with one dude. I will. OK, but let's not sit here next. There's five other fire heroes. Endeavor has an entire hero agency built around other people. But I don't fucking dad. No, shit, he does fire. Fucking there's an ice guy. There's an ice guy in the bad guys. The hooded dude who looks like one of the ice climbers. Once he show up like season 11. Yes, he's an 11. Yeah, you know, vigilante's second season. Oh, vigilante. No, it's fucking he's in the he's in the my hero academia or my vigilante, my my hero academia, my villain academia. Season five and on. Yes, season five. Oh, I'm sorry, you want more spinner? You want more fucking? You want some more teenage mutant ninja lizards? There's no way you're arguing that with story is like brimming with magic creativity. It's the fire guy makes a big fire bird. The ice guy throws a bunch of ice. I must think it's I'm not saying it's like but like for magical, like it's like it falls within I'd say 55 to 62 percentile of magic school creativity. What does that even fucking mean? I mean, like in terms of magical school animes, the creativity of the power system in Wastoria is in the 55th to the 60 second percentile. It's not the most creative, but it's not the least creative. It might be the least creative. It's not the least creative. It's not the magic of vendors. All of the bad guys have like the fucking writing abilities we're talking about forbidden magic or forbidden magic arc. Yeah, for sure. It's straight down the middle. It's cool, but it's also just black clover. I guess black clover is also like, oh, he's the ice one. He's the wind one. He's the lightning psychopath. There's a lot of luck. Time out luck, but there's also teleportation magic. There's illusory magic. There's healing magic. There's plant magic. There's blood magic. There's there's fucking in Wastoria. No, in fucking black clover. There's tons of eventually. I'm sure you want them to be you want to be like, oh, hey, here's 40 episodes on ruins. What you want me to review season seven of Wastoria when all I watched was season one. I'm telling you in season one season one, they're like, oh, here are the guys are going to have to fight ice guy, fire guy. Go ahead and tell me I'm going to be on the edge of my seat. What are the five sigils of which had a teleage? Read them off for me if you don't mind. It's so much better. I did it. It's so much better. Tell me the five. It's so much better. Four sigils of which had a teleage. You're a psychopath. Them doing the shoes. They did the shoes this episode. Oh, and what is that? Is that wind magic, Daniel? I don't know. What is it? Fire? Probably. I'm going to absolutely just wind magic. Is he? You can probably get away with it being fire. So you could. You could. Zuko did it. Yeah, because on the foot. No, I wonder if it's wind on the sail, but not on the shoes. I'm assuming it's probably both. I don't know. Anyway, wind, fire, water. The other light, the other one. Oh, oh, oh, oh, wow. I definitely just throw a fucking couple darts at a dartboard listed elements to pay to maybe choose an anime. Yeah, I think it's boring. I wish it was like the Naruto technique where it's like this guy's dogs. This guy's sand. This guy is a puppet that slices you up. Yeah, this guy's this guy's bugs. That girl's eyeballs. That guy's eyeballs. Yeah, who's eyeballs? Hinata. She pokes. That girl's acupuncture. Picking the most boring examples. Oh, I'm sorry. That's me and Hinata. These girls, these guy and girl have eyes that zoom fucking a kilometer away. See in 360 degrees, they're going to poke you 300 times and shut down your chakra system. That's boring to you. It's more boring than like dogs. She Kimaru. Okamaru's first show and ability is piss. It's piss, Daniel. That's cool. Keep it loose. It's too far. It's more clever than what we've seen a thousand times elsewhere. Anyway, I don't even know what your point is anymore that I wish it wasn't just fire and wind and shit. What do you want it to be? Anything else fucking something different. Give me give me give me a different right now right now. Give me a basis for a magic system. A basis basis for a basis. It can be like founded in elements. That's fine. Which had a telier is proving that that's fine. They're doing some clever with it. Yeah. This is literally just the fire guy is going to shoot a fireball at you or send a fire bird. Yes. Ice guy makes ice guys. Is this your first show you've ever seen? Oh, it's on my first show. What? I'm I'm I literally said I said it's the middle percentile. I said it's good for what it is. What's less creative? Mashal. I don't know. That's not true. Mashal's more creative. It has a music guy. It has a really cool music guy. Mashal's more creative. Okay. Less creative. Demon School of Rumacoon. I went to Demon School. Slayer. I'm the demon. There's the demon Slayer, though, is like, hey, there's a bugs one. There is a love one. Yep. It's not just the five elements we've seen in everything. I mean, they got them. They got fire. And they got fire. But I mean, all of them start from the core elements. And none of the fucking creative ones make it anywhere. Oh, the love one, the bug. But they're there. I guess. That's cool. The most creative one is the professor whose power is like snakes in darkness, I guess. Yes. Yeah. I can't believe you're hating on the story. I can't believe I made a mild critique and you're like, actually, it was revolutionized anime. I did a little. I did a little. My point is that it's middle of the road creative. That's it. 55 to 62 percent creative. Like, actually, this is the Hayomiizaki's canceled project. Don't even get me started on fucking jibbly and what was story is doing. The fucking oh, oh, the goddamn delivery service. But instead of a broom, she gets a goddamn. She gets Ang's glider. No, bitch, you bitch, you bitch. Don't even I fucking missed with story and you're shitting all over it. Anyway, I like Oh, Danny hates the show where canonically, the main character could either be shipped to the boy or a girl classic. Will's roommate is so goddamn thirst. Dude, he's like, we bath together. All the time. It's like hell, yeah, dude. My notes was what's his name? Rusty Roasty. Roasty. Yeah. It was. Roasty's cock mentioned and it's huge. Yes, there's a bit. Yeah, well, no, no, well, is like, yeah. As for if he's a guy, don't worry. There is proof and she's like, what do you mean proof? And he's like, it's actually bigger than mine. I didn't remember that at all. I watched the dub. That's fantastic. I think I also I'm watching the sub right now and it sounds familiar. I don't actually remember what I watched. You never know. But yeah, Roasty wants it, but Colette also wants it. I mean, Colette tried to kiss Will. What she was like, let's try to sexually assault him this episode. Roasty's like, hey, I do that. Hey, fucking backup. That's mine. Yeah, I love that will is like, yeah, we just plutonically crank it. Yeah. In the back. I mean, listen, you're there. They've been in high school together for like six years now. They've been in magical school. I'm assuming they've been roommates that entire time. They're almost they're almost legally married. Yeah. They're four years away from a common law marriage. And fucking I think will would let that happen. So I get opening the season two is crazy, though. Yeah, crazy, because we see that will doesn't get to go to the tower, which is fair, because I thought it was happening too fast. Anyways, and then the sky breaks. What is going to happen with the sky? Oh, I don't fucking know. I'm not a theory guy. You know, I guess I'm assuming whatever like is behind the sky is actually like not all that bad. Well, they talked about that they have to keep the sky held. Yeah. Yeah. OK, that's like the whole idea of the man. Yeah, that's not all that bad. I'm trying to remember what the reasoning for why the sky has to be held, like the reason they gave it's there's some like celestial beings out there that are like going to find them if they're not like within the confines of the bubble, basically. Yeah. Do you think it's going to be like an attack on Titan or promise Neverland situation? I see a wall. I'm like, they're actually we should be out of it. Yeah, we're like they go and meet other civilizations. They're like, you're from the wall city. You fucking moron. Well, but we just been leaving you alone because we have a way cooler magic out here. Yeah. You could combine them. They're shaming you for swords. We have guns. I was going to say, I feel like there's no way that's the twist because we would have heard about that twist like years ago when it happened in the manga. Yeah. But like. Like the story of Wyndon or of fucking magic and sword is the most popular monk on earth. We probably have heard of it, though. Yeah. That were the crazy twist because I hear about a story a lot when people are like underrated anime of like this year. It's very underrated. Yeah. It's very good. Cool. So we'll be keeping up with it, but let's go ahead and get to your and wait real quick. Yeah, I'm not done. OK, I like first off, did having the like Professor of the Dark Arts teacher give kind of his reasoning for being mean to will to that change your opinions? Oh, where I was like, he was like, you need is like, I can't have somebody incompetent being out there. Somebody doesn't know what it feels like to be magic. Yeah. Fucking. No, I was evil. That was how this I always would state characters. You're like, oh, well, like maybe he's just being mean because he's actually the good guy. This guy just seems evil. I don't know. I thought that was him being like, you're all being irresponsible. You're going to get this kid killed because he was like, I won't like nipping a dream that can never happen in the bud. Is kindness. Yeah, is kindness. Well, we kind of got the same thing with ago in in which had to tell you who's name I still refuse to say correctly. But we got the same thing with her where she was like, oh, well, you need to pass this test kind of thing. And if you can't pass the test, you deserve to be an apprentice. But meanwhile, Will is just like, well, is clearing final boss level threats in the in the dungeon like every other day to try and pass like kind of think like all he's doing is selfishly like applying his worldview to will even though Will has done everything in his power to prove everybody else that worldview is incorrect. Right. So like, oh, like, is he trying to be kindness? Sure. But like everybody believes they're the good guy in their own head. You know, so like, is he the good guy? No, like he's just like, there's a mountain of evidence proving that Will is ready to go to the tower. Um, he just doesn't like how he's going to get there. And so he's inflicting his own, he's in putting his own worldview on Will and everybody like literally everybody else in the story that Will has met that has spent time with Will has realized they were wrong. Like all of his enemies have now become at least like not friends, but like respect them. They at least respect him as like a strong person. And so no, a fucking Snape still an asshole. OK. All right. Can we talk about which out of telly, which apparently is your sorry. Last thing. OK. I love the scene where Will beats the shit out of Floyd in season one. Floyd's name, right? The way the fire one, right? The blue guy, the blue guy. Yeah, fire scion. Not Floyd. What the fuck is his name? Lloyd Lucian. Lucian. That's that's a yeah, it's an ice ass. Not even close. Yeah, he beats the brakes off where he he makes all of these clones and then will fucking in like one long shot just goes through all eight of them. Yeah, it's the best episode of the whole season. Uh, my favorite sequences that when Rusty makes him that like that like string bomb and he strings it wrong. Oh, an episode three. Yeah. The huge ice thing. Dude, there's so many every episode of season one. This is the only episode of Wastoria that doesn't have a ridiculous fight. That's true. And that's not necessarily concerning. No, I'm excited to see if like the crazy animation team is back. I mean, they literally just showed us that like an invasion is happening. So there's probably going to be some crazy fights upcoming. I'm also excited for that because like season one has a bit too much of like they fight a big monster. Yes, it's a little too solo. We have to clear this dungeon kind of thing. Yeah. And that's why my favorite bit is like the festival where he goes up against Lucian because he's like a one on one. My other issue with Wastoria is I love the idea of like a Rock Lee type character where he's like, he's got to work really hard in a magical world. And he has no magic. Yeah. I want them to like ground will by like 10 percent because they just make him a superhero. You know, they're like, he's not magic, but like he might as well be he's like zipping around and shit. Well, well, the thing that a lot of like these kind of shows fall into is like, oh, he's not magic, but he has anti magic or he's not magic, but he has the eight gates. Like like that's the thing is like, so like I actually I view view I view will even though he's like ridiculously powerful kind of is the best example of this where it's like, oh, he's not magic, but like he's just strong. Yeah. I mean, I that's fair. Rock Lee is like, yeah, he's got the eighth gates and stuff. Ostas like, oh, well, he can nullify all magic. And it's like, OK, well, that's magic. Ostas the worst one. Yeah. That's that's objectively the best kind of match. I just want to see Rock Lee works. Well, it's not that will isn't like desperate. Yeah. But I'd love to see like instead of him like doing these like Yuji style flips all over the place and making it look effortless. I want to see like him bobbing and weaving and like really like calculating like I want to see that he is more aware than everybody else and see just how terrifying that is. Yeah. Especially because like there's a bit where Lucian like throws a glacier onto him and then he like carves it in half and Lucian's like, how would you survive that? And he just has no answer. Like there's a lot of moments like that where it's like, they're like, that'll kill a human and it doesn't. And it's like, I get he's strong, but is he that strong? Yeah. Like I just want to see some calculations going in his head. Yeah. That's fair. I mean, at any time that like it's more explained, I'd say better choreography, more explanation, like this is why this character is good. Never a bad thing. I want him to do like Megumi season three type shit where like he is clearly way more strategic than everybody else because he asked him. And there's desperation. Yeah. There needs to be desperation. Anyway, gotcha. Now we can talk, which had to tell you. Episode three is the best episode of the season. Of the season or of the week. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Right. 100 percent. Pretty great. I this episode, I was watching it and I'm not going to say which app I downloaded, but I downloaded an app to try and put a bet on this winning anime of the year in 2026. And there was no bet. They're like, nobody had bet on it yet. It's way too early, but this is going to be head to head with JJK season three. Chainsaw Man comes out this year. So that's tough. It comes out this year. Yeah. So withdraw that money. I haven't. There was no bet. So it wasn't. It wasn't like a thing. I don't think it had to have competition. JJK still probably beats Chainsaw Man. Even regardless how good it will be. I mean, it ends up as a popularity contest. JJK is the most popular. Yeah. It's JJK. If Freeran gets nominated, then like that has a chance just out of spite. You know, 100 percent. Especially because in fact, they're like, oh, soul leveling. Like everyone was like, oh, it should have won over soul leveling, which probably amped to how a lot of people feel about Freeran. They're like, oh, we're under appreciating Freeran's greatness. Maybe we do a corrective vote here. That's how I feel. Yeah. I but I think this is going to like I've been saying it, this is going to be like one of the biggest anime of the year. I think there's probably I'm trying to like make invincible look as bad as possible, Max. And I think so like watching like everyone was like, oh, watching invincible and watching JJK is pain. Like it's like, oh, like you like you can't like can't go JJK to invincible. You have to go the other way around. This might be worse. This is a ghibli film every week. There's a sequence where Coco is like she like dips her ink on a rock and she's doing like this long, long pull on her like mud soaked like cloak and all of that. And her mother's like her mother's ghost is holding on to her and it's like swelling music. And there's this like gorgeous moment and like while she's drawing like bug films, which we'll talk about in a second. Decided like we need to animate two hairs falling, falling from her ear as she does this. And I'm like, if they did half the amount of effort, they like they did in this in this sequence alone for invincible, the fandom would implode. Yeah, they would implode. It is gorgeous. Yeah. It's insane. It's really good. I mean, yeah, there's a bit in episode one where Kefrey is like feeling up the fabric that she cut for. Yeah. It's like a thousand frames drawn. It's like Starks cloak. Yeah. But that moment that you pointed out is like one of the highlight moments where it's like shot is like directly on her and she's doing like the straightest line you've ever seen. Yeah. That's great. When she's using like Ang's wind glider, that's just sick as hell. Yeah. I feel like that's harder than a sailboat. Harder. No, that's harder than the shoes. I think they say so, especially because it's it's like the way that she oriented it right was up. Yeah. She wanted to go up. She was like, oh, this air will just pull me straight up. And then like, I guess, technically, now the air is pulling her forward. If like she's like flat, which is kind of nice. Is that just did she make a which is broom? Is that how she's going to get around from now on? I have no idea. Gotcha. But yeah, I feel like it would take like the core strength of Russian gymnast to navigate that. 100 percent. Like it wouldn't be fun. I do love. I mean, also the show, it's a cute girl doing cute girl things. Like it's the John Rudd, cute girls do cute girl things. I don't think it is, but gone. It's super absolutely is. What's the criteria? Just having a cute girl having a good she can do anything. Well, it's like it's a cute girls do cute things like that. Like and it's like the first seven minutes of this episode is a girl being like. Like it's just her trying to figure out how to fly. And then like there's a scene where she literally Luigi side bees through the fucking through the screen. I think you're like over simplified. Like this is so clearly like a plot based show. That's why I'm asking. Does it have to be like slice of life to be cute girl doing cute things? Like is Madoka Magica a cute girl doing cute things show? What what part of Madoka Magica is cute things when they wear dresses? Yeah, when they rip off mommy's head in episode two. Well, that's what I'm saying, though. It's like this is like, let's see. Let's check the official check the official seasonal anime tags. I feel like it was the only criteria is that like it stars girls. genre, fantasy, demographic, singing. That's interesting that the demographic is saying that is that is very people have been saying that which is wild. That is wild because it's a very child appropriate show. I think it stops being that. Did I tell you that if you look up before the show came out? If you looked up which had a telly on YouTube, all you would find are videos being like the scariest magic system in all of television. Like in all of media, there are so many videos titled exactly that about how like terrifying this magic system is. And I have no idea. You did a magic system video the other day, which was crazy to watch. Yeah, yeah, the owl house. Yeah, that's fair. But, um, yeah, isn't that, uh, isn't that interesting? And that's why I think that scene with her foot where she's like, maybe I'll just draw it on my actual feet and the music gets real weird about it. Yeah. I think that's like alluding to it. And there's like this heavy emphasis about like her taking her shoe off kind of thing. And I like like through the purview of like, oh, the world is perverted. I was like, this is a lot. But at the same time, we talked about it earlier where we're like, oh, there's consequences. Like the reason it's not to be applied to humans is like, there's consequences for drawing spells on your body. Like she could be she could be cursed to have this on her forever. Like maybe the ink doesn't wash off. And now like any time she clicks her feet like Dorothy and Wizard of the Oz, like she's going to blast the way into the ether. I think there's something like even more sinister about it because that was like a lot of ominousness to put into that shot for it not to be something crazy. I mean, I mean, it's outlawed for a reason. I reckon. Did you catch that all like all magical items of this universe are either circular or like globular or spherical? Yeah, it's a circle based power system. Yeah. But like it was funny because like she hands her like the orb of water, but also the compass is also like like it's a sphere. And I was like, oh, that's kind of cool. Yeah. The window that they teleport through. Yeah, also a circle. How the fuck was she supposed to do any of this without magical shoes? I have no fucking idea. Yeah. Yeah, she has to ask. She's like, hey, go, can you give me magical shoes? She's like, I guess. Yeah, it's impossible to do without the shoes. But then also it's like the whole test is just how good you are at the shoes. Yeah. Or how good you are, I guess, drawing a big old windshield. Well, if she didn't fall into a puddle. Yeah. This is not a hard test. You just zip up to the top with the shoes. 100 percent. Grab the flower, which I guess would be an indicator of how balanced you are. Imagine if you're good at the shoes, you probably put some hours in. Yeah. Um. If you're like, hey, listen, I need to apply a magical seal to the bottom of these shoes. Why are you using ink? I have no. I well, the ink's magic. Right. Okay, which is fair. The ink is magic. I thought about that. There's no ink on the gigantic circular door. I don't. I don't have it. Right. So it's like, OK, cool. So clearly we can do like engravings of some sort or something. Um, if there's one place that something is going to get rubbed off, it's the bottom of your it's the bottom of your goddamn shoes. Yeah, that's true. How the fuck was that? How was that circle still there ever? I know. I unless I got fucked her. Like gave her like gave her intentionally. We're going to like fucking fall apart on her. Gotcha. Yeah. So that's a possibility. But I was also like tattoo that shit into the soul. Yeah, 100 percent. Like or just like like carve it in. And then yeah, I said Jesus, how much setup goes into this cloak? And she looks so cute. There's a moment where she gets her. She gets her like wizards cloak from Quafery and she puts a little hat on and she puts 19 buttons on. She's like looping shit through, putting it through like three sets of hoops. Crazy. But she looks absolutely adorable. But that's I mean, the episode is basically just her stealing a flower and it looks good. It's cute. The power system is a little bit expanded. We see her progressing. What I want to talk about is the people making the show, which is Bug Films. Bug of Films. Who you remember the other 100. So they made Zom 100. How many projects out of which out of Tele A and in Zom 100. Do you think Bug Films has made? Well, I remember Zom 100 was like, if not their first, then their second. And I think they've done something since Zom 100. So if I had to do a large guess, it's four total anime and my small guess is two. And it's just Zom 100. It is just Zom 100 and which out of Tele A. Yeah, that's what you said. Fucking crazy. Yeah, like they got they got Zom 100, which was for all intents and purposes, not like a massive anime, a big IP in Japan. And then they just animated the shit out of it. Like all of the blood is different colors kind of thing. And they added so much imagination, creative force to it. And everyone was like, oh, you made a relative something out of a relative nothing. And then they get what is now being penned as anime of the year. And they are blowing you out of the water like doing a fantastic job. And it's so interesting because in an era where animation studios like Moppa are trying to absorb as many projects as possible, bug films is like, oh, we're just going to put because they're a small team. I think they're 30 people. I think when they were doing Zom 100 bug films was a 30 person team. They are just putting everything they have into anime and making it super high quality. That's why they had the huge break with Zom 100 because their team just wasn't big enough to like maintain it. Casually video. Yeah. Okay. I was going to say, is that is that your ransom? I have no idea what that was. Some guys got a don't worry. Some guys got a gun to Sarah's head. I'll deal with it later. You see, studio bug films knew the series would be incredibly hard to adapt. The already amazing manga panels. So they planned extra storyboards and usual to map out any possible detail. They started with making cocoa and key freeze full outfits to visualize how they would move in them, such as fabric on the side to hide them drying seals underneath the cloak. They then got actors to dress up and move around recording these scenes to help them animate later. Not to mention all the props created for reference like Coco's pen and palm choir to help gauge the tool sizes. For the animation, manga author come up. I don't know if this is like average or not. Characters bone structure. So the anime put careful thought into things like nose height and silhouettes. That might be average. Detail on parts of the character and eyes during those magical scenes. In fact, they added so much into the first episode that they had to cut down on the animation to fit its runtime in the TV slot. As for music, they brought in the main composer of Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3, Yurga Kida Murra, to create the atmosphere for the scene. Oh, that's that's not good. Six months to simply make it look better. They brought in the music composer of Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3. That's why shit's so ominous. I was going to I was going to say, holy shit, like that's those are Dark Souls 3s. I'm not going to say the darkest Dark Souls. I don't know. But Bloodborne is definitely the darkest fucking from soft game. Yeah. Bloodborne is just sad. That's why I haven't played it. It's just sad. Just makes me sad. Do you think they did that knowing they'd need that person later? Like right now, they're like, do some fun stuff. And then they're like, we're going to need you once you start drawing on. Yeah, episode seven. We're going to start skinning these girls one at a time here. We're starting with a blue haired one. They couldn't. I know. That's why I knew I knew this episode only in Granger Roy. Like you're fucking fealty to her even further. She's awesome. Her being like when when Coco gets back and everyone's like, oh, Coco, you need to eat. And she's like, the first she should and the prompt is neat is to take a shower. And I was like, I could see where Danny's coming from here. She's absolutely adorable. She's great. But yeah, I don't know if other anime do that, but that is interesting that they brought in like actors, actors and dressed that like it's crazy that they were like this. This manga, because I've seen some other people talk about how like this manga is phenomenal at drawing fabric in a way that like you have to be an artist to understand why she's doing crazy shit. Yeah. And it's cool that they like recognize that and they're like, we need live references to get the fabric right. Otherwise, this is going to be a bad adaptation. That's so interesting because like I wonder if that comes from like their own artistic endeavors where it's like, oh, either they were into fabric because like obviously like central to Coco story is her level of fabric. So it's like, I wonder if it's like, oh, she wanted to make a like a girl who loves like like working with fabric that kind of thing and therefore had to learn how to draw fabric or was like, oh, she was already fucking crushing it with fabric or she worked with fabric before so that it got integrated into her story. Well, the manga because I was also thinking something like that because the manga has like a very like fountain pen look to it where I think it is done like by pen rather than like digitally. Yeah. And even that is thematic where like the magic is all done with fountain pens. So it's like, fair. I'm like, man, you really fucking believed in your own. Yeah, you're just making the most work for yourself out of anybody here. But like it's turning out quite well for you. Yeah, that's I mean, a pretty fun week considering that we didn't have all that many things to watch. Should we get to our game? Joe, our game today is who did it better invincible or anime? Let's see. Invincible. Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm sure. Always. Who did it better invincible or anime? Donating a character. Up here we have Ren Goku when he gets donated by a cousin or Adam Eve getting donated by conquest. I, I mean, I knew it was coming from the comics. So it's like more muted from me. Gotcha. I think anytime a character gets donated and they die. That's going to be better than a death bait. And considering the facts that we've now seen conquest, not only donut Adam Eve, but also Mark. He's bad at it. Well, objectively very good at it, but like aim higher. Like if you have these all invincible spears, i.e. these four fingers, just start hitting them in the chest, hit them in the face, hit them anywhere. Go straight through the mouth and you will kill whoever you want to. Akaza donating Ren Goku is also incredible because even after Ren Goku is donated, like it's like, oh, the fight's not done. Dude, what was sick too is Akaza tries pulling his arm out and he doesn't even grab it. He just like clenches his abs and he can't get the arm out. And he's like, and they're like trying to get Akaza to like stay until the sunrise. Like Tondra was trying to get to him and everything. That is a fantastic moment. I would say it is substantially better than the Adam Eve donut though that one is fun, especially because conquest is a lot better. Especially because conquest brings it back up and he's like, I can't wait to feel the inside of your girlfriend again. Wild thing to say to his words. Yeah. So I'm going to go with Akaza. You. Yeah. Who did it better? Invincible or anime? The redemption arc for an irredeemable dad. This one's pretty easy. We've talked about this a couple of times. Endeavor or Omni Man? Omni Man's currently on his like whipping tour. Yes. Which is great and everybody is loving. Yes. Oh, his whipping tour where like he walks around everyone's like fuck you and all that like in the horse you rode in on. Yeah. Everyone hates him and that makes it feel Endeavor gets a little bit of that. Like his son hates him. Still hates him. Never forgives him. Not so hates him forever. Yes. Which is sick. Yeah. I feel like I wanted some scenes of like Endeavor going up to Deku and being like, don't worry, we got this. And Deku's like, whoa man, you like burned your wife. Yeah. Hey man, I thought Todoroki's mark was a birthmark and then he told me and yeah, I think you'd be, I think you'd be adding fire onto the flame here already. So I want you to see yourself out. Yeah. Sorry. No, he drove his wife to burn Todoroki. Yeah. He drove his wife to like borderline insanity here. Yeah. I mean, she also burns herself. Yeah. But yeah, he, I don't know. I feel like Endeavor's redemption story has more tact like then Omni-Man's redemption story because like Omni-Man, like, I feel like it doesn't. Because there's, it's, they're, they're pretty similar. They're pretty similar where it's like Omni-Man goes to Debbie and asks for forgiveness and she's like, get out of here. And I guess the difference is Omni-Man has further to come back than Endeavor. Endeavor's a bad dad, an abusive dad. Omni-Man is a genocider. Like, and there's like way for, like, it would be crazy. Like, it's not crazy for people to forgive Endeavor. Like, that's why I think the discourse around Endeavor is better because it's like, oh, people will be like, oh, Endeavor's actually trying to make changes. And like, you look at Omni-Man as a character, no one should forgive him. There's no amount because like Omni-Man will never see, he'll never see jail time or any actual, like, there will never be an actual step taken by him. Or redeem what he did. Even if he saves the Earth, like, even if you save the Earth, like, dude, you killed tens if not hundreds of thousands of people. Billions of people. He destroyed a planet. Yes. So that will never be redeemed through his actions. That's why I think Endeavor's, the conversation around Endeavor is technically better because it's like, oh, conversation that we can have, like, you could have the opinion that Endeavor is redeemed. I could have that he isn't, you know? And that's like also displayed in his family perfectly where it's like, oh, Shoto kind of forgives him. His wife kind of forgives him. His daughter kind of forgives him. His son doesn't, you know? My son's like, I'm getting married to a girl. You are not invited, you know? Yeah, right, yeah. But like, that's also like, we don't kind of like, it's not like Mark forgives Omni-Man. Yeah. He doesn't. It's just like, he knows he's a necessary evil. Yeah. All of her forgives him because he doesn't understand Omni-Man. And Debbie and Art will never forgive him kind of thing. Yeah. Right. And it's tough too when we're in the middle of Invincible, where is like, my hero has ended. Yeah. And so we did get those like great moments of like, Natsu being like, you're not coming to my wedding. Yeah. Or him sitting outside of Dobby's like, Dobby's like containment tank kind of thing. Yeah. And he's like, you don't have to forgive me. And Dobby's like, kill me. Yeah, he's like, please unplug me. Flip the switch at the core. But yeah, I guess you've convinced me. I'll say Endeavor. Cool. All right. Who did it better? Invincible or anime? The Incredible Mom. We have your forger versus Debbie. This is a mop up for me. This isn't even close. Listen, these are two deeply attractive women. I don't know if that's the question. Deeply attractive women. But if you're talking about best mom here, Debbie, clears. What's the question? Who does the trope of the Incredible Mom better? Your forger or Debbie Grayson? Being a better mom though. I'm going to say who's a better mom. Yeah. Okay. Then Debbie for sure. Debbie has to deal with way more stuff. Yours is not a bad mom. She's not a bad mom. She can't cook. But if you got a... That's like her one fault. She's a bad cook. So like Lloyd has to do all the cooking. And then like she like is... She's drunk often. She's drunk often. But like she protects the family. I feel like if Aya weren't as competent as like a 16 year old. Yeah. She'd be dead by now. 100% yes. I think your and Lloyd aren't great parents. But it's because they're preoccupied with... Well Lloyd's... They're other nones. Lloyd's kind of good dad. Yeah. Lloyd can cook. Lloyd can fucking Lloyd eat. Your definition of what all everything that... Parents have to cook for their kids. Parents have to be hot and they got to cook. I mean that's a good start. That's a great start. You have to cook for your child. Yeah. Unfortunately that's a part of it. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I mean it's not that yours a bad mom. I feel like Aya is like handle raising herself. Aya is also a tough... I mean that's a tough raise. I guess. You can read your mind is always freaking out. It's always saying bang. You know? Like fucking like... Like to get her a dog. But like your... Lloyd is like highly protective. But it's unfortunately also like an assassin. Well right. So like it's like often away from Aya or doing some bullshit in the corner. And that's to leave Aya to kill. Well that's what I mean. It's helpful that Aya has like the intelligence of like your average teenager. Yeah. I mean like... Yeah. I'll say Debbie. Debbie's just the best. Debbie's the best. Debbie's my favorite character in Invincible I'd say. I don't think it's even a controversial opinion. I like Invincible. I don't. I'm not even... I'm an old... I'm a lukewarm on Mark right now. I'm Markwarm. All right. Who does it better? Invincible or anime? The loud mouth explosion character who grows so much. Bakugo or Rexplode? That's tough. Because I was gonna be like... I never really liked Rex at all. I think he was miscast. I love Jason Manzuka. That's closer than I would have gotten. Love him as an actor. I think he was miscast though because there's like... Does he feel too old? No. He's too like... There are like moments where it feels like he should be like serious and he's still doing his like... It's like if I were cast as like Rexplode you know. Where he's like just doing his like insane over the top kind of voice. In appropriate moments. Yeah, he does. I mean he's got his voice which is very iconic and like I always tie it back to like... Raffi or something from the league. Like you will always be that in my mind kind of thing or like... The guy from Big Mouth and shit like that. In the good place, yeah. The Big Mouth. He's great in everything but it was just like as Rexplode... I felt like he didn't have like the full range. Like I was hoping from Rex. And so I was leaning... Does Rex grow so much? Well I was leaning Bakugo but then I was like well Bakugo is pretty insufferable most of the show. But Bakugo's arc I would say is better than Rexplode's arc. Because Rexplode's arc is that he ends up with Tiny Girl eventually. Yeah. And like Tiny Girl and him are like oh we should move away from the hero life and he's like eventually settle down after he's slept with every... Every... Literally every woman he could he's like I'll go with the little one. And then like after he goes with the little one he's like I gotta crush on you. And everyone's like well that's growth kind of. And like but then he dies before he can live a life with their kind of thing. Bakugo to me actually has like a rather insane character arc. Like we watch Bakugo go from like insufferable bully to like oh I respect Deku. To oh I want to fight Deku. To oh Deku is stronger than me and that pisses me off. And like hey I want to be re-inserted in the story. And we see Bakugo kind of be punished for the way that he's treated Deku. And we like we find out the core of all of it is like he was jealous about Deku's willingness to throw himself into the fire when he like identified himself as a coward kind of thing. I would say Bakugo's arc is better than Rex's. Yeah Bakugo's ends really strong. Yes. And it's unfortunate that Rex's like the only discussion happening right. Rex's whole legacy is just like has been pissed on by the flaws of Invincible. Where it's like I got to get reminded about him because robots wearing his goddamn face and name. Rex's death is partially indicative of Invincible's whack bad power scaling. Power scaling because he blows himself up to kill a Viltram. He blows up his skeleton to kill an Invincible. And it's like I buy that like because people are like well why is his skeleton uber explosive. And it's like I don't know maybe I've watched enough JJK to be like he because he sacrifices himself. But there's also a lot of it like his skeletons a lot of material and he's usually throwing fucking coins at people. Yeah and the guys like I'm pretty sure he's like you know doing a classic Viltramite and like turning him into a puppet. Yeah. So but yeah Bakugo's ends really well. I just wish Bakugo was like more sufferable between seasons like one through six. Like it takes it's not like this. It's not linear. It's not linear with Bakugo. It's like a flat line and then it's like. Yeah. So it kind of feels like it comes out of nowhere. But to me I'd say it's Bakugo. Yeah. Who does it better Invincible or anime the musical score. Here we have Invincible or JJK. This is not even a question. Invincible. I'll say it. Expound. Please. I don't remember like any songs during a JJK episode but Invincible got me into Radiohead. Invincible. Okay. That's very you're making a really good point. Seasons one and two of Invincible have way better soundtracks than three and four. They kind of like stop doing it. Yeah. But one and two have like the Arctic Monkeys cage the elephant. Yeah. Fucking Radiohead and they use them really well. Insufferable white guy music of the early 2000s. You say your piece. Or full though they need to go there. JJK is known for like the bunna bunna bunna bunna bunna. And it's like it describes like and this person is doing this technique. Oh yeah. Well that fucking Tengan's yapping over it. So it's like every time there's music. I'm conditioned to hate it. That's very fair. And then there's everybody has a like everyone has their own theme music. A car is going to get his own theme music. We also have all the openings. We have you are my special which I love which is a fan. You're well known for loving it. It's all that guy who made the guy who made the Iris out song. Oh crazy. Yeah. It's all him for all the openings and all that. He's incredible. JJK's openings and endings are great. But also it's musical score is fantastic. But Radiohead is a that's a great counterpoint. Whatever Mark's just zooming around in like the early seasons. You're right. They're playing some heat. I want to like have a counter to what I said. It's the difference between like someone like a mix tape and someone making music for the show. Yeah. So like JJK's original music is probably better. I don't know either shows original music personally. Unless you are my special. I assume was made for JJK. Yeah. So like Radiohead didn't make shit for invincible. So the conclusion this brings us to is that Devil May Cry at the anime has the greatest musical soundtrack of all time. How many times have you listened to that 30 minute long Evanescence? Oh many God. I don't believe you. I've gone in a I shit you know I had to have a talk with Dorothy about my obsession with Amy Lee the lead singer of Evanescence. Yeah. That's how you know I've been on my fucking shit because I literally I had a conversation with her and I was like all right. This is a question I want to ask you. I was going to make a tick tock of this. What is the closest thing we have in like modern society to like real life like mythical like beasts and doors. Like items right. So like think about a siren. What's the closest thing like in the modern day we have to the equivalent of a siren. Like a beautiful girl. A beautiful girl who could lure you into the water with her song to me ladies and gentlemen. Yeah I'm talking to you. It's prime Amy Lee. We're talking like 2006 Amy Lee that woman just sitting on a rock. Yeah. I'm I'm seasick. My sea legs haven't kicked in yet. She's just singing. I'm going under. I'm fucking slithering off the boat straight into the water. I think Amy Lee is the closest thing we've ever had to an actual siren. Okay. So like another question. What's the closest thing we ever got to like Thor or like fucking close thing we ever got to like I don't know an ishtar. Jesus. That's pretty good I guess. He was real. Half your Bjornsson. Half your Bjornsson is probably the closest thing we've ever gotten to Thor. Yeah. That's in fact he literally out lifted Thor on his log. No. Anyway. You don't have to answer it. I can't. It's an insane question. You're going to ebb and essence check me dog. I guess JJK because it's all original music. We can do. We can do invincible. I like radiod. I love karma police. Karma police. Rest this man. He talks in mads. Buzz like a fridge. It's in season two of Karma Police sounds like the next thing that Trump's going to roll out to try and fucking arrest people for saying mean things about him on Reddit. Yeah. There's a verse that's like talking about a girl with like a Hitler hairdo and I'm like this anti woke propaganda. I don't even know a girl with short hair. Yeah. Okay. With a Hitler hair. I guess that's one way to say like yeah you hate a fucking undercut or something. I guess so. Yeah. Character snaps with rage. Roy mustang snaps at Envy or Mark kills Anxtrum Levy. Well Anxtrum's the one we're picking. Oh yeah because he thought he was stronger. Yeah. He just juices him. Well considering Colonel Mustang thought Envy was stronger. I think he was trying to find exactly how strong Envy was. Yeah. And to be fair Colonel Mustang literally snaps with rage. Yes. I can't. You have to answer. I have to answer because again it's one of those things where I'm like I kind of liked it in the comic better. Oh. So it let me down but it's because I was expecting something else. To me this is absolutely Roy Mustang. Roy Mustang versus Envy especially because it opens with Envy like turning into their gigantic form. And Colonel Mustang just like you've just given me a bigger target and just start snapping their eyes. Like that's the cool part. Like it's like oh Envy can regenerate and like it like there's an acknowledgement for both parties that they are both powerful. And like Envy's are generating and Mustang's just burning away their eyes. Yeah. They turn into this little fucking noodle at the end and he's just like he's just like about to snap away the noodle and he has to be stopped. Mark doesn't get stopped. He just juices angstrom leaving. Yeah he juices the hell out of him. That's cool. Yeah. I think this is I think Colonel Mustang's moment is just more iconic. Also like I feel like Invincible is all just Mark kind of snapping and then just beating somebody. Literally to a pulp. I was going to say I was expecting it to be the conquest one where he head butts him into a pulp. Yes. That one's better. Which happens if I'm being honest too close to him killing Anxtrum Levy. I think both those sequences happen in the same season. No. No. No. Anxtrum's two the end of two and. Conquest is like. Yeah. Middle of three. Yeah. End of three. End of three. Yeah. So a whole season apart. Okay. Who does it better? I'll take your body. I'll take your body character. Kenjaku slash ghetto or robot slash Rudy slash Rex. Robot. 100%. You think that's the better the better scenario. What's better? Like how are we defining that? At least Kenjaku is like there's an acknowledgement that it's evil to take somebody else's body. Rudy's like I'm you Rex. Wow Rex is still alive and Rex like this is the weirdest fucking thing that's ever happened to me. And then they have the audacity to kill Rex. And then Rudy's like yeah I'm Rex now. I love that Rex goes this is weird. I'm not comfortable with this and robots like I'm you. So I know exactly how big your penis is now which makes me the seventh member of this team to know that fact. If we go by best meaning iconic then it's invincible. That is Kenjaku. As a fucking it's literally revealed that Kenjaku was Yuji's mom. That's cool. And then he takes over Ghetto's body and Gojo sees him and he's like he's literally so frozen by that moment that he's able to freeze Gojo into the prison realm. Yeah that was a boring discussion. It's so fun ripping on robot being Rudy. It is fun. I will say it is fun ripping on robot being Rudy. I have a blast talking about that. I also have a blast talking about the fact that Kenjaku had to get fucked by Yuji's mom to pull off his plan. Are we Yuji's dad. Okay. Kenjaku. There's been so many memes about Kenjaku gasping when it came out and putting it back in in order to bring his master plan together. I just like the invincible one. I have my answer will be invincible and yours will be JJK. Okay. But it's like the invincible one's so funny because it's like so wack. None of the Internet agreed with it and it was like one of these things that Robert Kirkman like could not retroactively change the whole. He wanted us to be like when Sabo was revealed in one piece after Ace's death and everyone's like oh yeah Ace is back. And we're like what the fuck is this. It was just so like the Internet was hilarious when it happened like knowing it was coming. Yeah. Because I was like so used to it. I was like oh yeah he becomes Rudy and all of my friends were like what the fuck is going on in this show. I'm not calling him. I'm not calling him Rex. I'm going to literally what happened was like I'm gonna dead name him. Yeah he's like at his funeral and he's like you have to call me Rex now. I've taken his name. I hope your suit implodes. It's Santa Claus rules. You kill a Santa you become Santa. You become Santa but he didn't kill Rudy Rex. We don't know. We do know. Who was there. We were. Who does it better invincible or anime that I fought myself in one arc. Freerun versus Freerun or Mark versus the Marks. This is another one where I'm like tainted by the comic because it was like my favorite arc in anything I've ever read in the comic. And so even though I don't think you like invincible show. I liked it in the show. I like season four. I loved season three. I'm constantly fighting you about it's ugly. But guess what. It's been ugly since like 2019 or whatever. Yeah. It's ridiculous to me that I made a video in like 2021 whenever the first season came out being like hey this show is barely animated and has a lot of CGI. Yeah. And now it's way better animated and everyone's on the animators. People are on your ass for being like this show doesn't look as good as it could. And when you originally made that take. Yeah. Everyone was on my ass in 2021. I'm always right. Just not at the right time. We've been vindicated several times. And now the show genuinely looks at least like seven out of ten. Like at resting pace at worst in episode of season four or three is seven out of ten. Yes. Which is good. There's better moments in the early seasons like when fucking Omni-Man gets struck by like the orbital laser. Him destroying the entire planet. There's moments that peak higher in the early seasons than what we're getting right now. But on a like baseline percentage. Yeah. Season four is the best looking invincible at several levels. There's no moment in season four or three. People bring up when the dragon's flying towards Oliver. I didn't notice whatever. It's quite bad. Other than that there's no moment that's like taking me out. And I've been like I wish this was like I can't believe they're not animating this big moment. Yeah. Whereas in season two and one I was constantly getting pulled out by moments that were like just really like rushed together. Yeah. So anyway it infuriates me that now that invincible looks at least from like good to amazing. People are on their ass. Yeah. What was the question? What's better Mark versus Mark's or Freeran versus Freeran? Oh. I liked the invincible that people were like people were mad at that episode like the invincible war orc. Yeah. Because when they hear arc they expect like a season's worth of something. And it's like hey this is probably eleven to twelve chapters. Yeah. In the comic it's one issue. Oh. Which is ten chapters right? Uh chapters. Oh like I said doesn't yeah it doesn't. Yeah it doesn't. It's not a volley. There's no yeah there's no it's all different. Whoa. I don't read comics. It's like thirty pages. Okay. And so it's thirty pages but every page of the invincible war arc is really fucking good looking. Yeah. So it's just thirty pages of like great momentum and it's also sandwiched between like conquest and when he fights immortal in the future. Yeah. So it's sandwiched between like really cool shit. Comes back from the future. Mark's a hoi. Yeah. You know. And also it's like the big reveal that like Anxtrum levees back and he's doing this shit. Yeah. So it's wedged in a great time period. And I think people online were like oh I thought the invincible war arc was gonna be this massive thing. Yeah. And they don't realize that season three as a whole is like the arc. Yeah. And anyway my point is invincible wins. I also would say invincible wins. Freerun is a better looking fight I would say. It's awesome. It's the best fighting freerun in my opinion. 100% the best fighting freerun. But it's also just like we need to pass the end of this trial and it basically requires that freerun distract other freerun so a foreign can shoot her in the goddamn head. And so I'm also going to go with the marks here. You know what it's not the best fighting freerun anymore. I don't think I can now versus revolts. Yeah. Now because that's also like intercut with like the methods fight. Yes. Yeah. They're fighting like some crystal person or something like that. Who does it better anime or invincible death baiting demon slayer versus invincible. What's better. I'm going to say who is the worst offender here. Demon Slayer or invincible. And at this point that I'd like to remind you that there was a moment where no scale is stabbed through the heart by a poison blade. Because he is born in the mountains. He is not only immune kind of to poison but also can move his guts. Yeah. That's ridiculous. Tondra was better on his last breath like six times. Yeah. Okay. You have the invincible ones also Tondra was stabbed by a poison hook. Yes. And so is. Oh my God. I have a tattoo of him on my leg. The sound Hashira. Oh yeah. Tangan. Tangan is also stabbed through a Tondra stabbed through the mouth. Through the mouth. Both of his fingers are broken. He tapes his hand to a sword. Tangan's hand is cut off. His eye is slashed. He's heavily poisoned. And then everyone is saved because oh my God. Nezuko's blood demon art is able to destroy all things demon. Including poison. Let me just see something. Like that. But at the same time we did just lose a Hashira in the invincible in the invincible in the infinity castle. Yeah. You know what so in invincible. Yeah. What are the death baits. Anxious and leavey conquest Mark. Yeah. Adam Eve. I mean Mark a couple of times if we're being real well he's invincible so that hardly counts. But I guess Tondra can't count. Incredibly invincible. Yeah. Because battle beast almost kills him. Yeah. Conquest almost kills him. Yeah. Conquest almost kills him. And at least in Demon Slayer Rangoku dies. Rangoku dies. And spoiler dies in infinity cast. Yes. If you haven't seen we won't say the Hashira who dies in the infinity castle but another Hashira dies. Yeah. Which already is pretty intense of a spoiler. Yeah. I will say invincible has all of that death baiting. Is it close to you in your mind. Because if it is there is more death baiting invincible. I'm sure there is. There's not much more death baiting in Demon Slayer. Yeah. So it's like if it's close in your mind there is like arguably duplicate. Yes. There's arguably even more like a grievous death baiting to come in invincible. So I think invincible is the worst of that. I think of I think invincible invincible pisses me off. Like because like I like we had the conversation last week where I was like I want Mark dead. Like I was like at this point in time like I don't want Mark to come back in the next episode. Yeah. I've never felt because of the death baiting because of the death baiting. I've never felt that way with like a no scare or anything like that. Like a no skis died like once. Tondra was died a couple of times. Nezuko. Damn Demon Slayer is bad with Nezuko with the hole she gets launched into the sun and then she's immune to the sun thing was annoying. That pissed me off. Yeah. That pissed me off. Yeah. It's close. Yeah. It is close. But I think invincible's got a longer I think of this was got a longer track record of death baiting down the line. I will say to invincible it's multiple per character. Yes. Where is a no scare gets the stab. Everybody gets one. Everyone gets one. So like because Nezuko is any two also gets poisoned by the spiders in his fight on the mountain when he's fighting against Ryu and all of his underlings. He gets super poisoned. Yeah. So so I'm going to go with invincible. Yeah. All right. And then our last one. Who does it better? Invincible or anime? It's a fuckable bug. I knew it. Beeru from soul leveling or andressa from omnivans dating profile. Show me. You want to see Andresa? Both. I mean it's looking like Andresa. It's really it's really matter of it's a dress. It's really matter. I mean as a man who likes women then yes of course Andresa who is a bug with boobs. Hey guess what. Beeru has knives for fingers. Beeru does have knives for fingers and knives for the rest of his body as well. He also has the thing that I don't like which is like abdomen hands. Man not man. Mandibles is probably not the worst thing we could call them because handables. I don't well yes definitely handles but I don't I don't I don't want that he's too hard and Andresa is like a solid B cup and you know that's you know that's that's something to look at if you don't want to look at just a woman with a bug for a head. If you don't want to look at the gigantic bug face you can look at the bug boobs. Yeah. She only lives for a year so she'll probably appreciate any amount of time you spend with her. So I'm also going to go with Andresa. Cool. All right. Best point. I don't have a best point this week to you. We haven't done it in so long. I know because we're busy. What do I do. Oh I watched a love on the prism. Love on the spectrum. Nope. What. Love on the prism. Look it up. Is it a dating show about crystals. It is an anime about a Japanese exchange student who moves to England in like the 1800s to join an art school and love in Seuss. This is the least Danny Mott a show of all time. This is a CG show. It's not CG. Are you. It looks great. Are you sure. I am sure. I mean I'm like five episodes in just because I'm saying it's CG doesn't mean I'm not saying it looks great but like they're it just like maybe it's the lighting. Their faces are so white like their faces are so like hyper lit. They kind of look like it's like they have shading under their chin but their faces are so bright that it kind of looks like CG. Why are you watching what appears to be. What's that show. Huckleberry Buckleberry Huckleberry. Oh no what's the show that all the girls like the da ba ba and it's just about yearning and holding hands and medieval times not medieval times. Huckleberry. No. Bridgerton. Yeah. It just looks like Bridgerton the anime. Sarah. So it's on Netflix and there is the like little preview thing that it does and it's like this girl is they have to paint the sky. Right. That's like the first test of like super hard art school. OK. And they have to paint the sky in the clouds. Whoever paints the best that week gets their painting hung up on you know the best painting of the week wall. Yeah. Next to second and third place. And this girl is the new girl. She's Japanese exchange student. It's kind of interesting because they touch on like racism which is pretty cool. Crazy. Like but like actual like realistic racism. She has his friend who's British. They're all British and her friend is like oh don't worry. Like she's super nice to her and super cool and she's like oh thank you so much. Like we're going to get along great and then our friends like but don't worry. I won't give away your secret and she's like what's secret. She's like you're a samurai. She's like what. And she's like don't worry. I know if you tell anybody you have to do harikiri and she's like what. So it's like really cool like realistic. Yeah. Old timey racism like ignorance like straight up ignorance. But anyway so in the little preview it's like they have to paint the sky and the new girl is getting fucking mean girls to buy some mean girls and she's like oh I don't have blue you need blue to fucking paint the sky. I'd imagine. In the like moody dream boat who's always number one on the best paint of the week. Of course he walks over and gives her his blue and she's like oh thanks. And everybody's like he's not nice to anybody. And then you know what he does. Spoiler paints the sky without using blue and wins. Call her theory baby. What do you know about it. Oh yeah. So we watched the first episode of that because I was kind of intriguing. And then we got sucked into like six more episodes. So you do like it. Pretty good. That your best boys remind me that I have a best boy. Record of Ragnarok season three. No it isn't. Actually yes it is. Oh 100 percent yes it is. Record of Ragnarok is I'm very I'm on record for saying it's bad. It is. But Boyle Boyle is it like anime. It's like it's like fight slop. And right now I'm watching Nikola Tesla fight against B.L. Zabab. One of our nation's warrior heroes. 100 percent. Nikola Tesla. They gave him in. And Satan. In literal Satan who by the way a good guy. Okay. Satan's a good guy. Nikola Tesla is wearing an Iron Man Tesla suit which is just like he's Iron Man but it's powered by Tesla coils. Previous to that fight I was watching the first Emperor of China battle against Hades. That was interesting. And then before that I was watching. Yes. Yes that is the Nikola Tesla Iron Man suit. And then we're we're building up towards I believe Nostradamus versus some Greek God. So it's it's been interesting. It's been very interesting. But season you know we're always talking about like oh season one and season two have no animation for some reason. And I guess this means that there's still hope for invincible. Season three is the best looking season we've ever gotten. Dude people love this show for some. I mean it's the best premise ever conceived. Yes. So I get why it has been. You want to see Zeus fight Adam and you're like fucking yes absolutely. You want to see Lou Lou Lou boo fight Thor 100 percent. You want to see Lou boo fight Lou boo boo. Yeah I honestly could happen in season four at this point we're just throwing shit out. Would you ever read the manga. No God no no that's like that's what's cool. That's why I'm saying it's my best boy because season three actually looks pretty good. Right. Well the manga looks great. I imagine yeah it's probably fun. It's like one punch man looking. That's fucking nuts. I also watched the most recent season of Baki. You know what I'm you know what you know my worst boy Baki. People don't get Baki enough shit. Baki doesn't get nearly enough shit. Do you see moist criticals in it. Yes yes I did. He did a video where he was like I dropped the ball. I did not put in a good performance. Yeah you can you can feel him in the scene. It's not great at all. It is the worst animated action like show I've seen in a long time and I really think because Baki is so much fun like Baki is a ton of fun. Nobody like it's kind of like the invincible thing where like the show was fun. The premise is fun. The characters are loveable but it looks like shit. It looks so bad. I don't like the art style. Everyone is ripped. Everyone is like the scientists are ripped. It's the ourselves horrifically ugly. How's it compared to Kangan Ashura. I know one of these you like. Substantially worse. Like if you like one of these. If you have an aversion to CGI Kangan Ashura is worse but like Baki has no animation whatsoever. It's crazy. But yeah that's my best boy which means we should get to our Patreon exclusive section. Okay. So that's gonna be it for all of us guys. Me and Tanya are gonna read chapter three of this utopia of abortion comics. So if you want to watch that and listen to it you can become a member of the Patreon for four ninety nine a month. But if you don't want to do that that's gonna be the end of the episode. So we'll see you guys on the next one. We love you so much. Goodbye. Hail Killian Murphy. I was reminded. I was reminded by the- Don't be hailing people without my permission. I was reminded how much of a love him as an actor and he is staunchly propelstine like most Irish people. So you know shout out. Shout out Killian Murphy. Hail is- Hail Killian Murphy baby. Bye. Bye. And now for my next number I'd like to return to the platform.