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I'm Dakota. I'm Sophia. And I'm Vincent. We got Keon back here too. And we're here to give good advice, Goofley. But we don't have all the answers. We only know what we know. So let us know what you know in the comments. However, I have been checking out of my relationship ever since she said no. As the days pass, I'm slowly falling out of love with her. And she has probably noticed it. I have stopped initiating date nights, spicy sleep, and she has been pretty much initiating everything. She has asked me many times about proposing and she has said she's ready now. But I told her I need more time to think about it. She has assured me many times that we're meant to be together and that she wants me to be her life partner forever. We live together in an apartment, but our lease is expiring in a couple of months. I don't really plan on extending it. And I'm probably going to break up with her then. Am I the a-hole? Comment one. If you're that sure about breaking up, do it now. OP says, okay, I will let her know tomorrow. We have our 10 year anniversary on Friday. No. And she said she has planned something really special for me the whole day. She's proposing to you. She's proposing to you. So I will let her know before then. Comment two. Did you and your girlfriend have a discussion about marriage before you proposed? OP said yes. I did go ring shopping with her a few months ago to pick out her ring. To be honest, I'm feeling a bit depressed about everything so I just want to block this out from my memory. Comment three. Says you've known each other since you were eight. You've been dating since you were 15. This is the old lady in me talking, but neither of you have experienced much else than each other. Yes, talk to each other. Others have said this, but you really need to work this out. It's very possible that breaking up is the best thing for both of you. You're both still young. Don't decide to get married just because you've put in the time. Comment four. I agree with the other comments that not communicating any of this until your lease is up is a bad move. It's bad enough you'll both be experiencing adulthood without the other for the first time, but you have a huge advantage by knowing you need to prepare ahead of time. Leaving her in the dark is cruel and undeserved, since it sounds like all she did was not accept a seemingly surprise proposal. And there is an update from 17 months later. So I am engaged to my fiance. We've been together for 11 years. Our biggest relationship difficulty happened last year when I proposed and she rejected me. That was genuinely the worst moment of my life, even though she apologized in the days and weeks after and she said she panicked in that she did want to marry me. I was very close to ending things. Eventually I stayed and a few months later I proposed again and she said yes immediately and was super happy about it. But it's always been in the back of my mind how she rejected and humiliated me when I first proposed to her. So my fiance has a sister. The three of us grew up almost like a trio. Growing up though, I was always closer to her sister. She always reminded me of my own sister who passed when she was 10. I am now no longer certain whose sister we're talking about. That's weird. Are we talking about the older sister? I think we're always talking about, I think we're talking about the older sister. We're talking about the older sister. Okay, she asked me out once in middle school and again in freshman year of high school, but I always saw her like a sister. And in sophomore year, I started dating my fiance, the younger sister. She was nothing but supportive and was genuinely happy for us. So yeah, Thanksgiving was yesterday. I was invited, I'm close with her parents too, and we all drank, laughed and talked. Late at night, my fiance's sister asked if we could go to another room to talk. We were both wasted reminiscing about old memories and she kissed me and I didn't stop it. The worst part was that I've never felt anything like that before. It wasn't butterflies, I literally felt like white sparks behind my eyes and this deep feeling in my chest. It felt like my heart skipped or something, like a heart murmur. It hit me so hard that even now just thinking about it, I can feel that heart murmur. I asked her today if she regretted what we did and she said, not at all, and that she was just shooting her shot one last time and would respect my decision either way. And also admitted that if I did choose her, it would likely destroy her bond with her sister and also the family dynamics, but she said it would be worth it for me. So yeah, I know it's horrible, but I'm just thinking about so many emotional moments my fiance's sister and I have shared. Like when she was there for me during my worst moments, including sleeping in a hospital chair for three straight days after I had a major accident. She asked me out back when I was overweight, shy and had zero confidence. I only started dating my fiance after a huge weight loss transformation, which took almost a year, but her sister never cared about any of that physical stuff. She's always been super loyal and that kiss. I can't lie. I've never felt like that ever in my life. Would it be wrong to end the engagement? I'm not delusional about the consequences. I feel sick and nauseous even thinking about the fallout and the ruined family dynamics, but I would never have even thought about entertaining this if my fiance hadn't rejected my proposal last year. Ever since then, it's always been at the back of my mind. Please end this, end this, end this, please. I need something to throw. You want a goldfish? I need something to break. Comment number one, you already have your answer. And to be honest, your fiance deserves better. It's not like you would never see her sister again if you stay with your fiance, which would likely turn into an affair sooner or later. I don't have to tell you how effed up all of this is, but at least be kind enough to let your fiance go. To heal from this and find someone that feels sparks while kissing her. Also be ready for a massive backlash for both of you from family and friends. Comment two, you and her sister are horrible people. So in that way, you're perfect for each other. Also have the guts to own what you're doing and what you're about to do, instead of trying to blame your fiance for your disgusting behavior. Well if my fiance hadn't turned out my marriage proposal the first time, I wouldn't be cheating on her with her sister. You would have done it anyway. The thing is you said that like I've always had this connection with her. You would have done it anyway. And I wouldn't be about to tear her family apart by leaving her for her sister. It's all her fault. Clearly your fiance was right to tell you no the first time. Her mistake was saying yes when you asked again. And there's an update from two days after. Oh boy, I hope OP read all those comments and was like, wow, I'm a really bad person. I guess I should break up with my poor fiance. So I'm only posting this update because a lot of people were asking for an update. This will be my final update. So yeah, sadly, I don't have a great update. I broke up with my fiance yesterday. Woo! Yeah! Let's go! You miss, like, you misunderstand. That's great, like great news. And yeah, she was expectedly shocked and sort of panicking. I felt horrible seeing her cry like that and seeing that reaction. And she kept asking why. And I told her that I just don't think we're meant to be together and that she deserves someone far better than me. She was kind of wailing and stuff and it broke my heart. Obviously, both our families are shocked, especially because we just had Thanksgiving and they asked a lot of questions about the wedding and our future plans and even baby names. So yeah, everyone's pretty shocked. I didn't really want it becoming this big a drama, but it sadly has become a huge drama and everyone is speculating what happened. I met my fiance sister last night for dinner and we both realized the gravity of the situation. We spoke at length and width. And I told her we should probably take some space and take it slow. Maybe wait a few months? No! What? Are you insane? Never again? You're insane! Oh my god! No, this is a guy send you this guy to the sun directly into the sun. You know what? No, this is black hole. Black hole, spaghetti, James Gandalfini's, spectral pigs in the labyrinth are going to devour you. And that is a deep cut for those who have been here. You will know what I'm talking about. Wow, you just kept getting worse. You just kept getting worse. Oh my god. You don't think that your fiance is going to put two and two together? When in a couple months you guys start seeing each other, you don't think she's going to say, oh well why did my relationship of 11 years end? No, 15. This is a cautionary tale. Dating since you were 10 years old is, you know what? Statistically not always the best. And I know there's some exceptions to the rule out there that work out, but my god. They started dating when they were 15. No, they started dating 15 years ago. No, they've been dating for 15 years. They've known each other for like 17. Yes, they are 25. They started dating in third grade. They said 11 years. Well, the first post, there was an update after that that was 17 months later. Just yeah. So I think there's been some time. He said we should probably take some space and take it slow, maybe wait a few months. And she said she was willing to wait however long she recommended that we can both move to a different state. We both were remote. So that works in our favor and we can choose any state we like. I asked her many times if she was sure and if she had any regrets after seeing her sister's reaction. And she said she loves her sister. No, she doesn't. And that the situation obviously sucks, but that love is love. And that the love we have and the deep connection we have is very rare. And that now that she had it, she would never let it go ever until she passes away. You guys are crazy people. You're crazy people. You're crazy people. I got those heart flutter feelings again and this time I was sober and we didn't even kiss. It was just her words and that's the end of that story. That's how I feel about that. And that's the end of this story. We're going to go on to the next one. I found my boyfriend's secret texts and I don't like what I saw. Ooh, we don't like secrets like that. Me, 21 year old female and my boyfriend, a 26 year old male, recently moved in together. We've been together for over a year now and I am deeply in love with him. We've had our share of issues, but I've seen him grow into someone I could see spending the rest of my life with. By the way, this comes from Grace's forehead, zero one. And if you want to submit your own stories, go to the r slash okay, story time subreddit. I'm Sophia. I'm Keon and I'm Vincent. And we're here to give good advice, goofily, but we don't have all the answers. We only know what we do. So let us know what you would do in the comments. Recently, I've been feeling very insecure due to my own issues and absent mindedly scrolled through some texts on his computer. I have never done anything like this before and I know it was wrong. I did not read anything until I came across a message from a girl with a name very similar to one of his exes. I opened the messages with worry because he has told me many times that he was no longer in contact with his ex. I was horrified by what I found. For context, my boyfriend and I broke up in January of 2022. We were both in bad places mentally and trying to manage a long distance relationship. In a heated fight, he ended things very coldly with me over the phone. I was devastated. We picked up the pieces of our love for the next week and vowed to find a way to make things work. However, I am still haunted by that time. My self-esteem will probably never be the same after hearing him speak to me with so much bitterness and hate. About a month after this breakup, I flew home for a few days and we got into another fight. I thought this fight was strange because he seemed to be overreacting much more than usual. He was upset that I didn't answer him all evening, even though I was with my family, whom I had not seen for months. This fight became extreme and he said goodbye to me over text and did not speak to me for the rest of my trip. I thought he was going to end things with me again, but he never did. I like the again. Again. That's great. She's like, well, I thought he was going to end things because it was really bad, but he didn't. So I guess we're okay. We stayed strong. When we broke up. Yeah. When I got back, we made up and I contributed this fight to growing pains as we were both trying to learn how to reevaluate our relationship after the breakup. OP. You're victimizing yourself. You're like, I'm the problem here. Yeah. I'll take all accountability even for you, bub. You're like, oh, I'll take it on. It's all me, not you. This is where the texts come into play. The girl he was talking to was not his ex, just someone with a similar name. Is that true though? Either he's really bad at just like hiding things. Yeah. And he can't even come up with a better name for his ex to hide from you, or it's genuinely just another person with that name who's just eerily similar to his ex's name. Yeah, it doesn't really matter. Either way, he's still cheating. At the end of the day, bad. He has never mentioned her to me for whatever reason. I cannot see any of her replies and can only see what he said to her. But to summarize, I think he was trying to or did hook up with her. Every single text was another blow to my perception of him. He started off by telling the girl that his ex had blocked her number on his phone and that he was sorry. Things continued to escalate from there, and he asked her if she and her hot roommate would want to have a menage au quoi. He went into great detail about how me and him were basically on a break, and that he was waiting until after Valentine's Day to officially end things with me, because he wanted his Valentine's Day gift that he knew I had bought for him. He's texting another girl. I haven't broken up with my girlfriend officially because I really want that gift. Yeah, so I can't break up yet because she got me this really sick gift. She got me a PS5 and I really want that before I break up with her. Yeah, you get it. You understand. OP's reading this and like, I think he's just all fun and games. He still loves me, right? Oh boy, OP. Oh boy. He talked about wanting to have spicy sleep with someone with no emotional attachment. He also said he had been in sleut this year. OP! What are you doing? Which raised alarms in my head since this was February, and I thought he had been loyal to me. Even through the several days we had been separated in January. That's his New Year's resolution, OP. Come on. You didn't get the memo? Again, the conversation was difficult to follow because I cannot see any of her replies. At one point, he asked her if she was there yet. This is the moment where I understand that they may have hooked up. There was other small details about him missing his crazy ex and asking her to validate his ego. The main thing that I do not understand is that all of this happened in February while I was back home in South Dakota. Although we were fighting, we were definitely not on a break. The way he spoke about me in those texts has absolutely shattered me. That whole month, he was telling me that he loved me and was trying to work on fixing our relationship. But in reality, he was being vile with another woman over text. Ever since I discovered this, I have been trying to come up with any excuse for him that I can. I cannot create a situation in my mind where he did not cheat on me or at least did not try to. A month or two after these texts were sent, he went to get an STD test at the doctors. I thought this was odd because we had been dating for almost a year at that point. I felt really bad about it and he told me that I should not be taking it personally because he was just looking after his health and should have gotten tested before we started dating. Either way, I thought it was strange that he was so insistent on it. When, to my knowledge, the only person he had been spicily active with for almost a year was me. I honestly do not know what to do with this information. The texts span only one day from back in February. Since then, I moved to live in his home city to be closer to him and for more work opportunities. We moved in together about a month ago and things have been really amazing. He went back to school, so our schedules have been hard. But the time I do spend with him feels incredible. Basically, our relationship has been good and strong. However, back in February, when this was apparently happening, he was begging me to leave the area. I really loved living in to come stay with him. I was terrified to take this leap and was hesitant. Eventually, I realized that my life was not going to improve in the tiny town I was living in and I agreed. Now, I am so uncomfortable around him. I remember Valentine's Day and the gifts I got him. I remember being on the phone within that week and being so excited to come see him. Obviously, something happened to change his mind after he sent those texts. He never broke up with me after Valentine's Day like he said he would. I want to confront him about the texts, but I'm torn. I know he will be extremely upset and hurt that I went on his computer and snooped. Why are we caring about his feelings literally at all? You should be just as upset. Why are we caring about them at all? Okay, where is your brain? Where is your brain? The entire time, where is your brain? I'm making, she's like, I'm making reasonings for him that it's yeah, that makes sense. You can, yeah, for your health, you want to go get checked up. That makes sense. I saw all the proof that I saw, but I'm so happy when I'm with you. I know I should not have done what I did and I honestly wish I had never seen those texts, but now when I lie next to him at night, I think about everything he said about me to that girl. He lied about us being on a break and the way he spoke to her felt like a different person. My boyfriend has always been very supportive of women, but the person I saw and those messages felt like someone I would run from. I never imagined him saying he wanted a random hole to F. I truly do not know what I would do if I confronted him and he confessed to cheating on me. Why do you need him to confess? You already know he cheated on you. Part of me thinks I need a break up with him. At the same time, our relationship has grown and I have seen him go to therapy and get sober and leave a toxic living situation behind. I genuinely am speechless without how OP is handling things in this situation. OP, you got a spine. Why are we making hypotheticals for this guy? You know he cheated on you or at least attempted to try and cheat on you. Disrespecting you. Yeah, what are we doing? Why does only part of you want to leave? Get all this, all of it. I do not know what I would do if I found out he cheated one six months ago. You did though. You don't know what he means. You did. You do know he did that. He did that. We know that. We have also, we know he physically cheated because he got STD testing. So we know he cheated on you emotionally and also let's put two and two together. Why would he get STD tests after? I need something to relieve my stress because this is stressing me out. But now I feel like I do not really know the person I love the most in the world. If I do not say anything, I do not know if our relationship will ever be the same. If I do bring it up, I do not know if it will survive either. I am hoping that by posting this, someone who has been in a similar situation will see it. I genuinely have thought about marrying this man. Why? But I am deeply disturbed by what I saw. Comment, was he drinking during this time period when he cheated? Was he drinking when he was breaking up cruelly with you? Has he stopped drinking now? Opie says yes, he was absolutely drinking when we broke up. I am not sure about the cheating. He's been going to AA several nights a week since we got back together in therapy. He got a job and went back to school. I told myself when I took him back that I would have to leave him for good if nothing changed, but it did. I am so proud of him. So this is soul crushing. Nothing changed. Opie, please leave. Please. Opie. Please. You have a brain. Please. Why are you? I know your brain is trying to like, no, he's a good guy. He's doing all these things for me. It doesn't negate the fact that we don't know if he viscally. Probably did. But emotionally cheated on you and you need to confront him and leave this guy just so you get the confrontation to be, so you just get clarity. But you saw the text. You saw the entire text thread and you're like, oh, I don't see any text of her. They're deleted. I don't know if he's cheating though. I don't know if he's cheating. He's cheating on you. Come on. Please. But that's the end of the story. All right. And we got another one coming right up. I'll be right back. I fell in love with my girlfriend fast, but broke up even faster. Life comes at you fast. I am in need of some support following my first month long relationship with the girl. Some background up until meeting her. I was a 28 year old, dateless virgin stemming from a chronic lack of self confidence and embarrassment. I'm a very sensitive and anxious person and I've always wanted someone to love and cherish. She, 26, has been my next door neighbor on and off for many years, but we've never spoken before. By the way, this comes from deleted. And if you want to submit your own stories, go to the r slash okay, storytime subreddit. I'm Sophia. I'm Keon and I'm Vincent. And we're here to give good advice goofily, but we don't have all the answers. We only know what we'd do. So let us know what you would do in the comments. She invited me outside for some drinks on her birthday. Three days after having been dumped by her boyfriend, I ended up going inside her flat with a few of her friends near the night's end. And we were rather wasted. As I was leaving with the others, she asked me to stay. And we ended up kissing and I woke up in her bed the next morning. We talked for many hours and had a good laugh. A few days later, she posted a note through my door asking if I wanted to go for a walk. And we did so the next day. I'd been incredibly anxious up to this point about what had happened. She mentioned she had to hang over blues. I said I had to. I said I had to be honest with her and told her I hadn't kissed anyone since I was a teenager. She was shocked because I didn't seem like that. And she was very non judgmental. That night she came to mine and we did a zoom quiz with my friends. She stayed the night we kissed and we said, let's take it slow. From there we were hanging out daily. I turned 29. We were talking all the time. We kissed. We held hands. We cuddled. Went on walks sat in the sun held each other and made plans for the future. We shared our mental health with each other and had spicy sleep. She took it so slow with me, made sure I was comfortable and didn't pressure me. We got closer and she would message how much she fancied me and that she was really fond of me. I felt like the stars had aligned of all the times for me to meet someone and lose my virginity. It was in lockdown. She's so beautiful in every way and we get along so well. Laughing at and with each other, matching interests and both being creatives. It felt so magical. She wondered how I was ever her first. That I'm handsome and likeable. The more attached I got, the more anxious I became and I was desperate for it to continue. After a sleepless night at hers where I was panicking that I was going to ruin it, I went back to my place and slipped into an anxious mess. She messaged asking how I was and I asked her to come around. She asked what I was worried about and I said I was worried the anxiety and insecurity I was trying to overcome were clouding the real me. I said she wasn't seeing my best side and that I was worried I was going to push her away. I told her I liked her for so many reasons and really wanted us to work out. She said she hadn't been her best either. That we'd rushed into it and that we'd been spending lots of time together and probably needed to give each other space. She said she thought I was great but that we should go back to dating and dial things back. I felt relieved after this because she could have walked away. But it seemed like she wanted to continue things just at a slower pace. However, following this discussion her attraction to me seemed to fade. We spent less time talking and seeing each other and when we did I was initiating everything. I kept looking for validation by trying to get passionate kisses out of her again but it felt so unsighted. My anxiety and negative thoughts were through the roof and I was already hurting so much thinking I'd lost her. I took her for a picnic which I thought went great and we had fun. Towards the end of the night she said she needed space. That she was being a bit weird and that we rushed into it so soon after her previous boyfriend. She said we'd be back to where we were at some point. I felt great thinking all I had to do was respect her space and back off for a bit. I didn't hear from her for five days. It's your first relationship anything it seems. It feels like so... I don't know. I remember my first month-long dating experience. I felt like a year didn't it? Yeah and then when I ended I was heartbroken. I was like oh my god. And then you look back at it you're like what a... That was nothing. What a dummy. That was absolutely nothing. It's called character development and you go through it sometimes and obviously you're experiencing it a lot later in life. Yeah I think this goes to show how you deal with relationships and how your anxiety really affects you mentally is one thing but then how you see yourself and you know what you want in a future partner and what you don't want. We bumped into each other and had a strained and awkward conversation where I weakly asked when we could hang out next and she did not seem interested. I left it nine more days with no contact. My friend pushed me to get on Tinder to build my confidence up and I entertained his idea without any actual intent. I ended up seeing her on there with recent pictures. I was heartbroken, devastated and hurt beyond words. I decided I had to talk to her and the next day I asked if we could talk. I said I felt like I'd been left hanging and that I didn't fully understand what giving space meant and that I'd found it hard having no contact with her. I told her I had feelings for her. She said she doesn't want to be in a relationship right now, that she needs space and that she'd get weird and unpleasant if she rushed into one so soon after her breakup. She said she does have feelings for me. I brought up Tinder and said she was obviously entitled to be on there and that we weren't in a relationship but I was crushed knowing she'd be with other men. She said she wanted the option and to fulfill her high spicy sleep drive without getting attached to people. She said she really wants us to be friends and just hang out and see where we go from there. Not promising anything or ruling us out. I said I would not wait for her as it's unfair on both of us. She said we were really exciting and had a great time but had to put the brakes on or I'd get hurt. We laughed about the fun we had, I left and I thanked her for being honest and having that talk with me. Now I'm a heartbroken mess. I was so excited about our potential future together and all the things we would do. She was my ideal partner and I don't think that's just because she was my first. Everything about her is amazing and I feel like I've lost an absolute gem of opportunity to develop and grow with someone. I can't stop thinking about all the mistakes I made and what I shouldn't have done or said. It's not. It's not on you. No, stop playing that game. Don't play that one game. She just got a relationship. Yeah, it's just honest truth. It was a rebound relationship. I keep holding on to that tiny threat of hope that we can be more than friends. I dread having to be friends with her while having these feelings I can't let go of. I'm terrified of how I'll feel when I see her with another man, especially since we live next door to each other. I miss being close and intimate with her so much and I was so happy with her. My mistakes that I become aware of are that I was too needy, overbearing, over-invested and too open and honest about how insecure I was. I put her on a pedestal, sacrificed too much at myself, and needed her affection to validate me. I didn't give her enough space and I should have known I was a rebound only three days after her ex ended things. Deep down, I know we wouldn't have lasted. She's far more developed than I am, has a much more interesting and busy life, and is very spicy, experienced with needs I can't fulfill. Opie, it's not about any of that. You're going to learn all of those things. It's literally not about any of that. It's just that she got out of a relationship three days before you guys started dating. It's your first relationship. I feel like everyone in their first relationship does a lot of these things. That's how you experience it. That's how you know like, oh, I'm becoming overbearing or over. That's when you start learning how to communicate and talk to your partner and they should let you know that. There were parts of her I struggled to accept, such as her mostly being friends with other men, which drove my insecurity mad. I just wish I was more like her or more like the person she would want to be. I don't know what to do or how to get over this. I'm such a late bloomer and I'm scared of having to get out there and find someone instead of it just presenting itself to me. How could I possibly get over the first woman I've been with, who was also the most beautiful, kind, honest, and fun person I've known. I want her to stay in my life and I see so much value and at least being her friend. No. Stop thinking that. No, we're not gonna be friends with her. This is just giving high school Sophia and Keon right now. We're not gonna be friends with her, but it will unalive me if I still have such strong feelings. I don't know what to do. The whole experience was like a movie or a book. Too good to be true. It was exciting and full of fun drama. We got along so well and now it's over. I don't know how to cope, how to move on or what my next steps should be. Don't look back. You can be cordial with her. You do not have to be buddy buddy with her. I know it sucks. You're not BFF Gillies. You gotta move on. Don't be besties though. Don't be besties. You can be a mature person and not scoff at her or be rude. She's your neighbor. She's your neighbor. You can just try to not let it affect you as much. Easier said than done. You see it all the time. Bestie you can do, Jim. Start working out. Go, I don't know. Just start like I threw a lot of parties. I found hobbies and stuff. I made friends with people. I talked to people and that, you know. Put yourself out there. I mean, I'm not saying you should force yourself into relationships and be like, yeah, I want a relationship. But I think it doesn't hurt to try and talk to other people. Genuinely putting yourself out there. It sounds so simple. Literally going out, throwing events, going to events is effective. Yeah. What I found, the more you just get out in the world and put yourself out into the universe, the more energy comes back to you. Absolutely. And then Doris, you didn't even know we're there. Are going to open. And that's going to be so much more exciting. You're going to find so many more cool people. Yeah. The whole reason that you had this whole thing was because you said yes to come to a party. Yeah. I think, like I said, you'll be okay. Again, in a matter of time, it could be one month, one week, one year, whatever time when you are ready, you'll look back at this. We look back at our, I'm pretty sure, even for Vincent, that one of our first relationships or whatever that may be, you look back at it, you're like, oh my God, in that moment, I was so, it was like the end of the world. But now it's just like, you'll find someone who's going to replace that category for her. But she'll, that partner, whoever it may be, is going to look at you the same way and put you on the even pedestal, where you look at each other and you're like, this is great. And that's the end of this story. We're going to go on to the next one. My sister copied my wedding dress. Now the family is divided. Stop copying me. I, 20 female have been planning my wedding to Michael, 21 male for the past three years. My dream wedding is in October of this year. And my sister's wedding is planned for the last day of September. Because she had planned her wedding late, not many options are available for her. By the way, this comes from Jenna stories. And if you want to submit your own stories, go to the r slash okay story time subreddit. And I'm Angie, I'm Sophia, and we're here to give good advice goofily, but we don't have all the answers. We just know what we would do in these situations. So let us know you do it down below. And O P says she couldn't find a nice dress due to her tight budget. And the fact that she was five months pregnant with a kind of visible bump wasn't helping. I have planned my wedding to my childhood best friends since we were kids. Michael and I grew up together here due to our parents being close friends. I have booked my venue catering, dress, florist, etc. way, way before my sister had announced her marriage slash pregnancy. Keep in mind, she has only started her wedding planning at the start of August, which meant it was kind of her own fault for not being prepared. Her boyfriend, now fiance 26 male proposed to her in early February this year. One day, my sister texted me asking to see my dress out of pure curiosity. I harmlessly sent her photo of the dress I had already purchased it a year in advance. The next day, my sister announced to my whole family while I was present that she had found a wedding dress. I was over the moon for her and asked to see it. Here it is, she said as she pulled out a dress. I was shocked to say the least when she pulled out an exact copy of my dress. When I asked her why it was the same dress as mine, she replied with I just liked your dress so much that I thought I'd reach out to the stylist. I mean, you looked nice, but it fits my belly more than you. At this, my whole family got mad, but they didn't say As of today, September 20th, 2023, I have still planned to wear my dress and now my family has cut my sister off and I have told her that she is not welcome to come into my wedding and she called me a selfish witch who can't handle that she looks better. I honestly didn't mind the fact that she stole my dress, but I hated how she even tried to cover it up and try to trip me into accepting it. I do not feel sorry for her because she had a chance to redeem her loyalty, but she chose not to. I asked her to return the dress and buy a new one on September 15th. She refused the idea immediately. So now no one in the family wants to attend her wedding and her husband's side of the family have been sending me DMs calling me selfish, stupid, in other words, that I cannot stay on this platform for ruining her wedding. So am I the a-hole and we have some comments, but what would you say? You just text them all back. I know you are, but what am I? Yeah, there you go. Yeah, and you can even automate it. So every time they text you just goes, I know you are everyone of mine. What does that even mean? And then it's, I know you are my wife. I just keep saying that. I don't understand. We do have some comments. Comment number one says, not the a-hole. Block them and focus on your wedding. Wear your dress and have fun on the day and make sure security does not let her in on the day. Just ignore her going forward. She has more drama to bring in future, so better to stay away from her. Comment number two says, I'm wondering what other messed up things before stealing the wedding dress design that sister has done that caused the rest of OP's family to go nuke with both disowning and not attending her wedding. I feel like there's way more to what the sister did, specifically to several family members, to make it what she did to OP the very last straw. I was driving home from work yesterday when I got a message from my mom asking me to come home. The message wasn't past progressive and was innocent in its nature, so I decided to take the extra 20 minute drive since I could use some time to clear my head. My fiance was waiting at my parents house for me and he genuinely looked pissed and had a hint of bright red from which I could make out that he had been crying for a while. My mom, dad, sister, and sister's fiance were all there waiting for me. As soon as I walked in, my mother said something along the lines of, oh gosh, I can't anymore. How could I raise a kid like this? Although she intended to whisper it under her breath, it came out loud enough so everyone heard. Next was my fiance. He started crying and asked in a shaky tone, how could you Jenna? What happened? Jenna, what did you do Jenna? Oh my god, I was a bit surprised because I didn't really know what he meant. What babe, what did I do? He cut me off before I could finish even saying that. Now in an angry tone, he screamed, how could you cheat on me? You're lying, witch! Well, maybe we should do a little bit of, I don't know, research, a little bit of fact checking, some fact checking, you know, check our sources perhaps. Do we have a reliable source or do we have OP sister? Yeah, because if it's OP sister, you're dumb. You're really dumb and maybe we shouldn't get married because of how dumb you are. Because you're dumb. By now, my mom was bawling while my dad put his arm around her shoulder. That's when my sister finally spoke, of course. You accidentally sent me the message a while back when you were wasted. I didn't really want to show him, but now that you're getting married, I have to. I started sobbing at the sound of that. I would never cheat on my fiance. I love him dearly. As I tried to protest, I was cut off. Each word I said fell on deaf ears. My fiance left that same day packing his bags and my mother punted me out. They all thought I was a cheater. Okay, people in this family are, now I'm like, did the sister do anything before this? Yeah. It seems like everyone's just very quick to be like, out, that's it. Get one strike, you're out. Right. Right. That's what it sounds like. Yeah. This sounds like the type of plot. Do you know verticals on TikTok? I do not. Okay, so basically verticals are short stories that are filmed specifically to be vertical. Got. And they're usually very dramatic, kind of like K-drama-esque. Yeah. Some of them are all like businessmen, Jews into werewolves. I think I know what you're talking about. You've probably seen some of them. I have friends who record them and stuff. A lot of people will go to China, like actors will go to China and record them. But anyway, this is what that feels like. Yeah. It's like, oh, the immediate problem and then I get out and then immediately they find out, like, I wasn't able to say a word. Right. Nothing realistic at all. Just everything, just on impulse. Yeah. Like your family just acts like, I'm sorry, your fiance who presumably, you told about your sister. Yeah. Just was like, I'm not even going to question this. Right. That's it. Right. This is crazy. My fiance was sweet enough to let me keep the apartment that we bought together in your pack. Sorry. Sorry, your fiance was sweet enough? Your fiance that left without actually hearing you out was sweet enough? Yeah. Was sweet enough? No. This morning, I got a text from a dummy number saying, you should have just let me be happy with my dress. Now you pay for trying to ruin my big day. This was my sister. She has devised a plan to turn everyone against me because of the dress. Now I'm lying on the couch sobbing because how could someone do something so cruel over a dress? I know that I shouldn't have made my family unattend her wedding, but did she really have to ruin my whole life? I really don't know what to do. I have a stable job, but everyone from my family has cut me off except for my mother. I would appreciate suggestions on how to prove that I'm not lying. And that's the end of that story. Hey, it's Carly. Your favorite axolotl host here. We're going to get back to the stories, but here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors. She needs some money. She's got a great idea. She's in the car park, runs up to the van. Gold! Score some easy money by selling your unwanted gold to Gold Arthur. Gold Arthur will buy your gold at the right price. Look out for the Gold Arthur van near you. Book your free valuation at goldArthur.co.uk. Gold! I refuse to spend Christmas with my parents and my father completely lost it. Christmas is canceled and it's your fault. Okay, so this may not seem like a big thing, but it kind of is for me. Every year I dread having to go to my parents' house for the holidays. It's always stressful. My dad acts like a butt, yells at my kids for being ever so slightly noisy because they're kids and they're playing with their cousins. He is also micromanaging everything right down to telling who can start first with putting their plate together at the buffet line. And who sits where at the table. By the way, this comes from Owlish Delight 72512. And if you want to spend your own stories, go to the r slash okay, storytime subreddit. I'm Sophia. I'm Angie. And we're here to give good advice goofily, but we don't have all the answers. We only know what we do. So let us know what you would do in the comments. And OP says, let's not forget the inevitable biased comments, political comments, etc. All while he knows my stance on things, he brings crap up all the time to get a reaction out of me. Plus, my brother is a pain in the butt. It just sucks. My husband hates going over there and so do my kids. None of us ever have a good time. So when my mom sent the Christmas invitation, Facebook Messenger message, I finally worked up the courage to say, we have other plans for Christmas, but thank you for the invitation. I'm all nervous now. I just know a phone call is coming eventually because my dad is going to be all words you guys coming to Christmas. But I'm glad I at least got the decline out of the way. It was really hard to do guys, but I did it. And there are some comments. Common one says, gay for progress. I hope your holidays are peaceful and joyful. OP says, I cannot wait to spend the day with my husband and kids and resting in front of the TV watching Lord of the Rings extended edition and eat yummy food. No yelling. No stress. Common two says, when your mother reaches out to you to guilt you into coming, remember this. She is the enabler and has chosen to support her husband's actions. Your dad will blow things up. Mom will help and say, just keep the peace. FYI, it is her peace, not yours. And again, she chose to do this, not you. So stick to your choice and enjoy it. Took me years to disconnect myself from the guilt of going no contact 16 years ago. Lots of therapy and good books helped. My wife and I played the do something on our own slash keep them happy game for a number of years. They guilted us when we did our first Christmas without them. Tried to use our own kids against us with massive presents. It finally ended when we went no contact completely 16 wonderful peaceful years of never dealing with them at all. Do yourself a favor. Christmas Eve, turn off all social media, all phones, everything and don't turn them on until the day after Christmas so you can enjoy time with your spouse and children. After Christmas, therapy would be a good idea. Plus the book, The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel von Dirkulk. It teaches you about the trauma you went through, how it impacts you and how to deal with it so you no longer feel the guilt. As my therapist said, you cannot change them, but you can change how you react to them. So I did and now I am at peace. May you find the same peace and comment three, well done. That first trigger is incredibly hard to do from now on. Your default position is that you're not going. We decided to do something else is perfectly good enough. And if you get a persistent why, I just say make up your own reason and leave it at that. But back to the beginning, well done to you. And there is an update. Let's get into it. Let's do it. Right on schedule, my dad privately texts me with the guilt trip. Here's how it goes. You're really telling your mom and dad that you have other plans for Christmas. Whoever you have plans with, you can't arrange to meet them on another day like the day after or the day before. Whoever you have plans with. Yeah. You can't just hang out with your husband or your kids the day after. Right. Like, no, it's just it's just me and the kids. Why can't I just hang out with you the day after? You really plan to deprive your mom and dad of our daughter's attendance as well as that of our grandkids on Christmas day. It's bad enough that sister has left us and gone to another state. But brother who was to trade his kids back and forth with his ex will not have those grandkids to share Christmas with us. But now you pull the rug out from us. What have we done to deserve this? After receiving those messages, I laughed out loud at how ludicrous it is. I haven't replied because I honestly can't think of a way to respond that wouldn't launch us into a fight. I just find it ridiculous how much he makes everything about him. Mind you, I am 39 F and years old and my brother and sister are in their 40s. But I guess everything we do we're doing it to him. When do we get to start living our lives as adults with our own choices according to him? SMH. It's just like blah, blah, blah, like come on parents. You can't blame the things that you're complaining about on me. There's a lot of stuff with these other siblings involved and you're clearly very upset about those and now you're just using that to as leverage to be more upset with me. It just doesn't make sense at all. SMH. I don't know. Maybe if you were fun to be around. SMH. Yeah, right. SMH. People would come for Christmas. SMH. Right. Clearly, if I could make one scheduling issue for you, then it's a huge problem. That's not someone I want to be around. SMH. No, sir. SMH. Not at all. My husband and I both shared in the ridiculousness of it all when he got home from work yesterday and I would be lying if I didn't feel the guilt ship viscerally. My stomach was literally upset and I could barely eat my dinner. Even though I know my dad is being self-centered and manipulative, it's hard to shake the years of guilt that have been drilled into me. Anyway, I'm still debating on whether I should answer at all. Meanwhile, in the group chat, my mom is announced to the others in there that they will be going to a winery for Christmas since it will just be the five of them. My parents, my brother and his wife, and his wife's adult son from another marriage. And you know what? Good for them. I hope they have fun at the winery. I'm going to enjoy spending time with my immediate family at home in comfort. And that's the end of the story. My sister brought her affair to my house, then blamed me for not forgiving her. Go to your own house! About two years ago, my sister came to my apartment while going through the beginning of her divorce, something which I was not aware of. We are not terribly close. Like, text a couple times a year and see each other at holidays kind of not close. I found it odd that she was coming to see me at all given that she lived eight hours away by car and normally stays with our mom nearby. By the way, this comes from FRTSK and if you want submit your own stories, go to the r slash okay story time and subreddit. And I'm Angie. I'm Sophia and we're here to give good advice goofily, but we don't have all the answers. We just know what we would do in these situations. So let us know what you do in the comments. And OP says, she wouldn't give me times, she wouldn't confirm if she was sleeping at my place and wouldn't say why she was coming, just that we were going to a local brewery. An hour or two before she arrived, she asked if she could bring a friend along. I said yes, but made it clear that I wasn't going to have this person sleep over as it was a work night and they were a stranger to me. When she and this guy arrived, they only brought one vehicle, but still wouldn't say for sure whether my sister was staying over or not. The guy was weird and annoying, but I wanted to see my sister so I entertained him while she spent the next hour in my bathroom getting ready. We left the brewery and shortly after arriving, she asked us both to leave the table and go somewhere else so she could talk to her friend. My wife and I found this incredibly odd and rude, but acquiesced. When we finally asked if we could return, we tried to get more information as to why things were so weird and all she would admit was that she was upset with her husband for going through her phone and finding something. I asked Point Blank if she was cheating and she told me no. The guy at this point was drinking adult soda after adult soda and only about an hour and a half after getting there, the brewery was closing. We drove them back to our apartment and told them we needed to get to bed soon as I worked early in the morning. The guy was in no position to drive, but after some hemming and hawing, they decided to have her drive them both back to his place a few hours away. I would find out a few weeks later that not only was she certainly cheating on her husband, whom I adored, but that guy she brought was in fact the other man. I think of a marriage as a very important thing and have always made it clear that I hate being lied to. Since then, I simply have not spoken to her. I don't drag the rest of my family into it, I don't say it's her or me at events, I don't snap at her or pretend she isn't there. She gets short answers only and a flat effect. I've made it clear to her and everyone else in the family that what I want is a real apology. We never go along as children and our parents even admit that they let her be pretty awful to me growing up. She took advantage of me pretty frequently and was usually just outright mean. At one point I had to start taking the bus to school rather than have her drive them because I couldn't stand the torment in the car on the way in. Wow. Yesterday as our family gathering loomed, she reached out and said she was sorry, quote, if you feel I involved you in something you didn't want to be involved in. But in the same breath, she said that she was heard that I didn't try to talk to her about what was going on that day. I'm so sorry if you were involved in this situation, but also that was insane that you didn't want to talk to me about this situation. It's really been so rude and sorry. I'm not trying to involve you, but why won't you get involved? Yeah, hurtful. Hello. I sent a long and angry response detailing the day more or less as above and how it made me feel. I made it clear that I did try to talk to her and that I wasn't happy with her apology. I felt after everything we'd been through, I was owed a real one, not one blaming me for how I responded to her actions. I asked her not to respond because I wanted to do this face to face. She refused, insulted me, and said that she didn't want to do that in front of our mom or nieces and nephews. So today, I treated her just as I have the last two years. She ended up leaving early and my mom and other sister are upset that I won't just forgive her. My wife has my back 100% in this, but I just want to make sure that I'm not forgetting to take my crazy pills as I feel like I am not asking for anything unreasonable or behaving unreasonably as a result. So am I the a-hole? And we do have an edit for clarity. They are fully divorced and have been for a year and a half. Oh, interesting. He knew about the cheating by the time she arrived at my place. That was the something on her phone that she was upset with him for going through. My mom and sister know the truth of everything, but want me to be nice because my mom doesn't like to see us fighting. And we do have some comments, but what are your thoughts? Not the a-hole. Yeah. When we're comparing you to your sister who cheated and lied to everyone, yeah, it's pretty, pretty obvious. Yeah, she's not like willing to have a real conversation with you. She's not, she's being very hypocritical in the things that she's saying or at least contradictory in everything that she's saying to you. It's just like you're, she's being a little cuckoo over here. You're definitely not the cuckoo one. Yeah, agreed. But we do have some comments. Commenter one says, not the a-hole. She knew what your boundaries were and willingly violated them. You aren't even asking for much. Just a simple, genuine apology and she can't even do that. Just because you think your family hasn't picked a side doesn't mean they haven't. They've most likely been speaking about this behind your back from the very beginning and is now starting to give vocal about it to your face and showing whose side they're truly on. Ultimately, this is for you to decide. Do you want a person like your sister and all her qualities that you described around you and your family? She's made it pretty clear that she neither likes you nor does she respect you. But yeah, I would agree with that comment. Yeah, I mean, there's really just not much you can do to make your, I feel like, I don't know, to make your family see reason if this is how they're reacting to your sister. Trying to involve you in like this weird affair thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is so weird. Comment number two says, so you got a non-apology followed by why it's actually your fault, followed by anger and insults when these accountability avoidance tactics of an absent apology didn't meet the boundary that you set. Sounds like you grew up with this being an acceptable way to act. Sounds like the rest of your family thinks this is an acceptable way to act. Write down to the affair, providing your sister is the one misbehaving and no one makes waves because that's what causes them actual discomfort. Friendsgiving, your in-laws, or just a nice night with a well-made meal all sound like lower drama. Your mom and your other sister are fine with the dynamic, not holding your sister accountable has worked for them. You growing a spine doesn't because the change makes them uncomfortable. They cater to your sister's bad behavior and maybe experience a bit less blowback. Sounds like a long-term pattern. Protect your piece. You won't change these people. I wouldn't want more than low contact though. No contact with that particular sister. She sounds like a piece of work that they all feel some need to cater to. And it sounds really gross. Chronic lack of accountability has ugly consequences. You don't need that drama disrupting the piece. And that's the end of that story. Hey, it's Angie, your favorite fake redhead host here. And we're going to get back to the stories, but here's a three minute ad break from our sponsors. Fly with the fry. Chicken is here. The 20 hot wings bucket. 20 succulent hot wings for $7.99. Come under our wings and feel the flavor, savior. Sensation awaits. Get the deal. Believe in chicken. Available until the 19th of April. Subject to availability. Participating restaurants only. Excludes delivery. Faulties and seas at koc.co.uk. I surprised my sister with a car for her birthday and she lost her mind in a good way. I hope yesterday was my older sister's birthday. My sister Nikki, 23 female and I, 21 male live in a different state. The night before her birthday, I put in a low ball bid on a 2009 Hyundai Elantra SE. I had been looking since my sister told me her minivan is really bad on petrol. And when I drove it, the MPG was so bad, I honestly thought there was a hole in the tank. By the way, this comes from Toyota man, the sequel. And if you want to submit your own story, go to the r slash. Okay, story time. Subreddit. I'm Sophia. I'm Angie. And we're here to give good advice. Cooply, but we don't have all the answers. We only know what we do. So let us know what you would do in the comments and OP says it's a 2019 Chrysler. And I warned her at the time not to buy it because she would be spending a lot of money on petrol. 100% of the time she drove it rather than having your boyfriend at the time take some of the kids in his car for the rare occasion she needed to transport the entire family to one location. He insisted she get the van and she ignored me. On her birthday, I found out the low ball bid I put in on IAA went through. I told my mom about it and she agreed to pay half since it was a big gift and the price was so low. I called my sister to let her know the good news and her reaction was not what anyone expected. I explained that I already had parts for the car and that it was going to need some minor work. She didn't like that idea at all. I explained that she would have to go pick it up since it wasn't in town and I was thousands of miles away while she was only a few hours from it. I even offered to cover the petrol it would cost to go pick it up. She started yelling at me with my mom on the phone. She said her boyfriend 34 male wasn't interested in helping. I told her I didn't care what her boyfriend wanted and I said I see him as less of a man for refusing to come see me when I came to town last time and for refusing to give any amount of commitment. I gave her a list of people who were willing to help instead and she continued to freak out about how she didn't want to deal with it. At that point, my mom and I decided she didn't really deserve the car anymore with the way she was acting. I started planning a trip up there to collect it myself. For clarification, her boyfriend won't fit comfortably in this car, which is a complaint she has made. He doesn't fit in her van either at the moment, so there isn't really an argument to be mad about. I'm 5'11, he's 6' and I fit perfectly fine in both cars without any issues. How he doesn't fit? What do you mean he doesn't fit in the car? Is it like a teeny tiny fiat or something? She just said he doesn't fit in the van. But it's a whole van. It's a whole van. There's no way that this man who is only 6' doesn't fit into a van. That's like what else are you supposed to fit in if not that? Yeah. My boyfriend is 6'1 and he fits into the Prius. Yeah, it works. It works. He wants her to buy an SUV because of this. She can't currently afford the petrol for her van. She contacts me and my mum once a week asking for money so she can pay for it. No. When people say, who are you to say what's best for her? My answer is that I'm the one stuck paying for it every week so my niece and nephew can have a roof over their heads and so she can get to work 30 miles away in a van that doesn't even get 15 miles per gallon. People also keep saying the car isn't free, but it is free. It has already been paid for by my mum I already have the parts for it and her dad has said he wants to install them for her. Others have said you're not giving her a gift, you're giving her work. Why not just buy her a broom? Which is such an idiotic comment. It's hard to justify responding to. Her dad is doing the repairs, not her. I've also heard it's a beat up old Hyundai. You're just giving her problems. My own car is two years older, has 340,000 miles on it and is still going strong with minimal issues. And even that is just damage from an accident. Another argument is that there are other costs associated. Like what? Registration? The car was $100. The taxes already paid and registration in her state is $24 at the age of this car. The van she's driving now is 10 times that before even considering insurance and petrol costs. Yes, she has to go out of her way to pick it up, but it's a free car and I offered her money to pay for the petrol to go get it. She had asked me months earlier to find her a car and that's exactly what I did. The last car she bought was based on her boyfriend's needs rather than what she could afford. After he decided he didn't want her anymore, he tried to take the van back since his name was on the title. And she couldn't change that without refinancing. That van is expensive on petrol, insurance, registration, and maintenance and it keeps getting worse. In the update she ended up calling me to say she does want the car, but she was worried about getting it repaired because her boyfriend doesn't work on foreign cars and refused to help with it. I told her again that her dad was willing to fix it. She then said her boyfriend wants to turn it into a race car. What? And I have never face-palmed so hard in my life. It's a van. I'm going to turn it into a race car. We're going to add racing stripes on the van. Yeah. It's going to go so fast. It's going to go so fast. We're going to take the roof off. It's going to be so freaking speedy. That is stupid. This is so stupid. Comment. Without truly knowing details like the inappropriate for this thread, it sounds like she's in the type of relationship where the boyfriend is a control freak. And in order to protect the sanity of staying in that relationship, even if declining your offer is in her best interests, she has chosen her path in order to protect that relationship. The resistance, mentioning how her boyfriend doesn't want to be bothered as if helping his girlfriend in such a big way is inconvenient, then not wanting to have to deal with it. The lashing out all fits. I just don't think that this niece should be dating that man first of all. No. And I think OP should not be helping the sister. Well, this is his sister. Yeah. Oh, I see. Okay. Never mind. I heard niece is in nephews mentioned earlier. Yeah. He only wanted to help the niece is in nephews, which is why he's giving his sister money. Yeah. I mean, I get that. That's fair. Yeah. Pay for other things. Yeah. No, this is a mess. No, no, no. This is silly. Yeah. And anytime she said, oh, well, I need it. I need like the money for my card. Be like, well, I offered you a free car that was way better. So right. She always looks for these men. At the moment, he's telling her to get an SUV since he won't fit in a car due to his weight or something like that. My issue is when she bought the van, I warned her that it was going to consume so much fuel. She would have difficulty paying for it and all the other stuff she needed. Her boyfriend at the time insisted since he refused to drive his car on the rare occasion they needed his kids, her kids, my other sister and him to go somewhere together. I said that was a 1% of the time circumstance and it would be cheaper to drive two cars on that rare occasion than to drive a significantly less efficient vehicle 100% of the time. The case he was only co-signing. He never made a payment on it. He never paid for petrol and never paid for insurance, nor did he make a payment on the car. He refused to marry her that whole time and she bought a car based on what he wanted instead of what she needed. The Chrysler ironically outlasted him. Now there's a new guy in her life who refuses to even consider marrying her and she's talking about buying a car that he would want rather than buying something she can afford or something that works for a situation. We've reached the point where him not hurting her makes him a good guy and I'm not cool with the bar being set that low. And that's the end of this story. Co-op members now get prices matched to Audi. Hold on, no way. Okay then so co-op members now get everyday essentials priced matched to Audi. Sign up and start saving. Co-op owned by you, right by you. I wasn't expecting that. Co-op member prices matched versus comparable selected products at AudiGP. Co-op membership required. Co-op group futiles only see cop.co.uk slash Audi price match. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.