The Toast

Tiny Violins: Wednesday, January 21st, 2026

73 min
Jan 21, 20264 months ago
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Summary

The Toast hosts discuss the Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni legal saga with newly released text messages and court documents, analyze Razzie Award nominations for 2026, and address celebrity relationship dynamics including Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's reported wedding planning tensions. The episode covers entertainment industry drama, legal implications of public feuds, and relationship advice from listeners.

Insights
  • Court-released private communications reveal how celebrities discuss workplace conflicts with trusted friends, raising questions about privacy invasion and the legal weaponization of personal texts
  • The Razzie Awards struggle with relevance by nominating obscure projects unfamiliar to general audiences, suggesting the need to expand into streaming content and TV shows
  • Workplace power dynamics in entertainment often blur professional and personal boundaries, with actors normalizing codependency and inappropriate behavior as industry standard
  • Financial disagreements in relationships often signal deeper philosophical incompatibilities that require explicit communication rather than assumption of shared values
  • Celebrity feuds become public spectacles where both parties suffer reputational damage regardless of legal outcomes, making victory pyrrhic
Trends
Increasing legal discovery of private celebrity communications via court documents becoming primary source for entertainment news narrativesNormalization of workplace codependency and boundary-blurring in entertainment industry as creative necessity rather than professional concernFinancial transparency and money management emerging as critical relationship compatibility factor among younger couplesAI-generated content of public figures raising legal and ethical questions about consent and image rights in digital ageCelebrity relationship timelines accelerating with public engagement announcements and wedding planning occurring within months of datingStreaming platforms and digital content creators outpacing traditional award shows in cultural relevance and audience engagementMale retirement from professional athletics creating identity crises and relationship strain when combined with major life transitionsSocial media documentation of celebrity interactions creating false narratives and speculation about relationship status and connections
Topics
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni legal dispute and court documentsTaylor Swift text messages and friendship dynamicsRazzie Awards 2026 nominations and film industry criticismCelebrity workplace relationships and professional boundariesTaylor Swift and Travis Kelce wedding planning and retirement concernsTell Me Lies TV series and fictional storytelling engagementMargot Robbie and Jacob Elordi codependency on film setsGeorge Clooney retirement from romantic film rolesMother-in-law dynamics and postpartum family relationshipsFinancial management and money disagreements in relationshipsFinger-licking eating habits and relationship annoyancesCollege football championship and celebrity attendanceAI-generated sexual content and consent issuesBeckham family feuds and public airing of family dramaNicola Peltz and Brooklyn Beckham relationship speculation
Companies
Sony Pictures
Studio that tested both Blake Lively's and Justin Baldoni's film edits for It Ends with Us
Wayfarer Studios
Production company financed and led by Justin Baldoni for It Ends with Us film
Netflix
Streaming platform hosting Tell Me Lies series and Star Search revival show
People
Blake Lively
Actress at center of legal dispute with director Justin Baldoni over film editing and workplace conduct
Justin Baldoni
Director, producer, financier, and actor in It Ends with Us facing allegations of inappropriate workplace behavior
Taylor Swift
Referenced in court documents discussing Blake Lively's film edit and using phrase 'tiny violin' about Baldoni
Matt Damon
Actor asked by Blake Lively to review her film edit version for feedback and support
Ben Affleck
Actor and filmmaker contacted by Blake Lively regarding film editing and workplace issues
Ryan Reynolds
Blake Lively's husband, included in group text messages about film production issues
Victoria Beckham
Mother involved in public feud with son Brooklyn Beckham over family drama and AI-generated content
Brooklyn Beckham
Son publicly defending wife Nicola Peltz against mother Victoria in Instagram dispute
Nicola Peltz
Brooklyn Beckham's wife at center of family feud with Victoria Beckham, subject of workplace criticism
Travis Kelce
NFL player potentially retiring, causing relationship strain with Taylor Swift amid wedding planning
Margot Robbie
Actress discussing codependency with Jacob Elordi during Wuthering Heights film production
Jacob Elordi
Actor who remained in close proximity to Margot Robbie during Wuthering Heights filming
George Clooney
Actor announcing retirement from on-screen kissing and romantic leading roles
Jenny Slate
Actress who testified about inappropriate behavior from Justin Baldoni during It Ends with Us production
Alex Earl
Content creator spotted at College Football National Championship with Tom Brady
Tom Brady
Former NFL quarterback reportedly attending college football championship with Alex Earl
Justin Anderson
Celebrity hairstylist who publicly criticized Nicola Peltz as difficult to work with
Quotes
"I'm never going to side with that person who did that. Someone who's airing the family laundry, barring anything absolutely crazy and disgusting happening."
Jackson-ClaudeEarly episode discussion of Brooklyn Beckham
"There's so much more interesting stuff here. There's me. There's two things. One that everyone's talking about, which is like just the high level of cringe of Blake Lively in this moment."
HostBlake Lively legal saga discussion
"I feel like the toasters would know better than me. I know. It's really great. I'm not going to comment. What is the soundtrack of my life?"
Jackson-ClaudeTheme song discussion
"It is 100% incumbent on your husband to handle this. Yes, of course. Not only has he just had a baby, but also because it's his crazy mom."
HostDear Toasters advice segment
"The things we like let men get away with. Because you know what? It's hard to get a guy. Yeah. And the future of civilization depends on us dealing with this."
HostFinger-licking eating habits advice
Full Transcript
Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson-Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the Fast 5 Things You Need to Know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast and happy Wednesday. Wednesday. What a weird week. Not complaining. No, thank you to Martin Luther. Happy Wednesday, Jackie. It's hump day, a very special day of the week here. How you doing? I'm doing good. My morning was all far-clean because last night I spilled all over my makeup. I had to wash my makeup brushes. They were like, sit a little damp this morning. And it was just a cluster of fucking, we're interviewing someone today for tomorrow's episode. Not to like tease, but- There's a lot at stake visually today. I was like, of course today. When there's a lot at stake visually, my bronzer brush is a little damp. You know, like just a quick fix had you called your sister Turdy. Just run it into the blow dryer. It'll be drying 10 seconds. Oh, true. I was sitting there with my blow dryer, but I had this new little nifty machine, so I just like kept running it in the dry cycle. It didn't work, but- Yeah, well if you were to ever just call me- Worked slowly. Your life would be better. I couldn't call you, I couldn't talk because there was like a sleeping baby. It was just a lot. There was a lot going on. Okay. So happy to be here. Wednesday ting. The news keeps newsin'. The news keeps newsin'. Kind of a bombshell episode yesterday. Of course, you know, a myriad of reflections from people, feedback, good, bad. I disagree. Team Brooklyn, team whatever. And I just love spirited debate. I do about nonsensical things. Although, like, the deeper we get into this, it's really not nonsensical. It's unbelievably tragic. No, we were talking last night. It's making me sick for Victoria. Like, I'm sick for her. You see Victoria posted three Instagram stories this morning? No. And Nicola keeps posting nonsense, like no caption, just like her in a pair of sweatpants, like rage-baiting. Well, you know, it is a good time for engagement. She posted, it's Emma's birthday, baby spice. So she posted happy birthday baby- Victoria. Yeah, happy birthday baby spice, and then like an old reel, like a clip from one of their music videos. And then her third was supporting Cruz, or Romeo, I forget which one it was. I think he's like a performer, and he had a performance sellout. So she posted the poster. Because she does support her family members. So proud of you at Cruz. Well, that's giving, like, what you said is a lie because I support my children. Right. It was like a little heavy-handed. Well, I'm just sick for her. Like, imagine like the person who's like making your life a misery, who you're like feuding, beefing within the public, like, is your own child. So you can't even really root against them. Right, of course. You know what I mean? Like, you don't want to see someone talking, like, clowning on your child. But then there's also now like AI generated sexually suggestive content about you. I like posted one and I thought it was funny. And then I saw them getting like progressively more graphic. And I was like, wait, this actually isn't funny. So it's like, people are making sexually explicit content about your mom and who's faulted it. Is it? It's kind of yours. So it's just actually a really complicated issue. I haven't seen anything like super inappropriate. The ones I've seen so far have been really funny. It's like AI generated videos of the way that Victoria was probably dancing at the wedding. And it's like silly. And it's like the break dancer from the Olympics. Like, that's all funny and good. Yeah, I saw them like, you know, getting more, you know, suggestive and like tether clothes. Well, that's what he had said. Correct. The, the, uh, what? Insinuation. That's my girl's gonna say the impression, but that's not right. The insinuation was was made by by one Brooklyn Beckham Pelts. Excuse me. Yeah. So it's honestly sad. And like, I know a lot of people are on Brooklyn's side. And I understand when you like like, when you look at it, it's like, Of course. How could you beat toxic mother? And I'm just like, I'm never going to side with that person who did that. That's exactly, exactly my takeaway. You done that. Someone who's airing the family laundry, barring anything absolutely crazy and disgusting happening. I'm never going to be on your side. And, you know, I was chatting with a friend of mine who had a really interesting theory. I want to give credit, but like, What's the problem? Okay. Like just in case this theory is true, like it was from Suzy Weiss. She had a good theory. She was like, we were like, God's thinking about it. And I see someone whose opinion I respect. She's also a very family oriented person. So I'm like, what do you make of it? She said, you know, I feel like maybe Nicola could be pregnant. I had that thought too, because he mentioned our future children twice. And like, this is such a fiercely protective thing of Brooklyn to do for his wife. You know, it seems like it's been a really bad situation for a long time. But like, why now? Why this Instagram story? Like, what was the boiling point that he had to put his foot down? Like, it's been rather quiet. And you know, he's a young boy, perhaps on the brink of fatherhood for the first time. And that can send you into like a really overprotective overdrive. So that was Suzy's thought, which I actually thought was quite poignant. Yeah. There's potential, you know, I thought the same when he talked about their future children that there's, you know, maybe they're thinking about children, but I don't think she's pregnant. Yeah. So all that to say, we will of course continue to be speaking. But I wouldn't speculate on women's pregnancy or a body. There's also lots of Justin Bell joining Blake Lively News. I feel like they've been kind of quiet. Things have been coming out over the last couple of months. Nothing worth reporting on. And I feel like it's just like for the people who are really obsessed with it. But so much, the unredacted Taylor Swift text messages came out, the unredacted Ben Affleck emails, the unredacted group chat between Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds, and Matt Damon and his wife. Like, and shout out to the girls on TikTok, because Jackie was like, who has time to read all these text messages? I'm like, certainly not me. No, I want to see a screenshot of the text. I know, not a court document. Right. It's like all transcribed and written out in paragraphs. Like, I need to see the text. That's how I can process texts. When I was getting my makeup done this morning, like the girls on TikTok who are obsessed, they put their own spin on it and they all hate Blake Lively. So I was just trying to be unbiased, listening. When I was doing my makeup, I put the TikTok on and they read me all the text messages, which was so delightful. So I read the ones between Blake and Taylor. And they are exactly what you think they are. Like, two feminist women. Like, how do you think Blake and Taylor talk to one another? Is how they, I'm your Khaleesi. You're my dragon. Like, so, like, you could say what you want about the two of them. They are who they are. Like, it's so authentic. Then I read the group text between Lucy and Matt Damon with Blake and Ryan. Then I read this kind of turrrr email that Blake wrote to Matt Damon, Ben Affleck. And then also like this letter that she wrote to the producers guild, which is kind of what did she write to Ben Affleck? So at this stage, a lot of the documents that were being, is this a story? Like, okay, let's say that I watch the first episode of tell me lies. Okay, we're going to talk about tell me lies. I'm putting in the work and I just told Ben because what's been holding me back, obviously, is like my will to watch it. But also like, I get into bed here like, Oh, is that my nanit? Oh, sorry, the nanit is always on. I'm so sorry. Wait, it's not even on. That's crazy. Hold on. Everyone be quiet. Oh, I'm sorry about that. Not time. I watched the first episode of tell me lies and what was holding me back was obviously like, I really wasn't like not in the mood to watch it because it gives me terrible anxiety. But also like, I'm just kind of stuck with this hanger on her. But he's like, what are we watching? I'm like, we're watching season three of tell me lies. So we were like scrolling last night trying to watch them. I'm like, listen, just pay attention. We're watching episode three. Like season three episode one, we watched the intro previously on. There was so much to catch up on. He was so long. I wouldn't expect him to be found. Like he just has to sort of resign to the fact that he's not going to get in. He can scroll on this phone. That's exactly what he ended up doing. And then we ended up watching Martha after for him. I watched one episode. That's compromise. That's marriage. I'm getting caught up. I'm putting in the work and I just want to say like the show, it gives me such bad anxiety. Especially. It gives me two, but in like a good way of like, I feel something like this on the edge of my seat and I'm in it. I'm in a raptured where it's like, we can't get off our phones on other shows. Oh, yeah. And it's really hard for me to care about like fictional TV show. Like it's just made up shit. Yeah. So like, I like that the show immerses me in that I care because all the only other stuff I watch is reality. Yes. And so I only watch first episode, but I'm putting in the work. We're talking a little bit about Tommy lies. Anything else you want to chat about? Little pre PFFB. I've been reading for the red heads. We're reading this like new Buzzy book while dark shore or whatever. Or miserable book and I'm like 50% in and I'm really excited for the episode because the worst the book, the better the episode. I don't think it's a bad book. Everyone loves it. It's Reese's. It's like the crawdads and I do feel like it's trying to be crawdads and I'm just like, you guys, why are you reading this? Like when you could be reading Confessions of the Shopaholic and you would choose to read this. The nightingale. You would choose to read something like this. You know, when L was on the red carpet, actually somebody asked her about the nightingale. Someone who's obviously doing good work. I want to say it was Zuri Hall. Being like, what's what's going on? And she said she's so excited and it's on its way. Allegedly. And they're also being the Hilton sisters. Ellen Dakota. Yeah. Shout out in a movie about their lives. Oh, I love that. I wonder which one's coming first. I feel like the Hilton one. I've heard more about it. That's great. I love that. Yeah. We don't know who's playing who though. Um, well, Dakota's kind of always been the Paris, even though L is so having a moment. So I think I heard that L was older than Dakota and it just like made no sense to me. No, she's definitely not. I know. That's what I said. She's definitely not. But okay. Who's older? Dakota or L? Fanning. Needs not said. Dakota is older than L. So obviously where I heard that was wrong. Or you just are recalling it properly. You know, maybe some different siblings that you would think one's older. Unlikely. Maybe it was like Elizabeth and Mary Kate Olson. You know, for sure. Because what they got me like, I know, I know all the players, but the way that Dakota and L fanning like L fanning is Elizabeth Olson. Yeah. Okay. I'm glad you agree. Yeah. I don't think that's like controversial. No, no, no. I think it is. Yeah. I think it's like an insane take. Well, let's get into the stories because as we said, there's a lot to talk about. We're also doing Deer Toasters today. As promised, the DTQ will be fed and I would like to thank the Deer Toasters community for like, you know, For keeping it in their pants. Yeah. What's the word for like, um, Sitting on their hands. No, no, like where you like controlling themselves. Let me just explain what I'm looking for. It's like not giving into temptation where you're like not withholding, but like. Will power. No, what is it? Like for like a for like for like controlling themselves, but like in a more sophisticated way. Um, what do you say? Are we sure? Hmm. No, whatever. For acting normal. I saw like, I saw like one hate comment from the DTQ for the most part. I feel like the DTQ understood. 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So first story Taylor Swift allegedly called Justin Maldoni a bitch with a tiny violin and texted Blake Lively as legal docs show conversations between Lively and friends. So there's a lot to unpack. Now the headline that people are running with artists like, well, the song canceled is now confirmed about Blake Lively. And it's like, my God, people are so dense. Like in their text messages, they're talking extensively. Taylor was like, this is her best friend, her best friend is going through this like major thing. What is the Blake going through in this moment of texting? Okay. So in this moment of texting, it's about this edit. So apparently Justin Maldoni was editing the movie for like months and Blake like hated him and hated everything that he did in the studio. I guess hated it too because they were like, Blake, you can come up with your own past. She had 10 or 12 days to edit the entire movie and they were going to show it to two different focus groups. We know that they did and Justin's version one. And they're talking about the edit and like where to use Taylor's music and Taylor is like, well, I'm your ally and he, you know, he shouldn't use the music. Like they're so in it together. And I guess some stuff had started to come out in the press because Taylor said, you know, obviously he's like gone into like offensive mode on being like a little bitch. Like they are so in the way. She said, I think this bitch knows something is coming because he's gotten out his tiny violin. And so now everyone's like, well, tiny violin is a lyric in canceled. Did you bring a tiny violin to a night fight? And I was like, do you think Taylor is referencing her own personal text messages? No, but that's just how she speaks about people who play the victim then. Yes, that could be anyone. Yeah, I don't think at all this is a confirmation that this song is about Blake Lidley. No, I agree. Because also as far as we know, her and Blake aren't friends anymore. So the song wouldn't make any sense because she says she likes her friends canceled. Yeah. So I never thought the song was about Blake Lidley. And it would be about Justin Baldoni. Actually, he's the one with a tiny violin here. But I think that's just like a term she uses when someone is playing the victim. It's a good term. It is a good term. That's like what everyone that's what all everyone was tagging me. And I'm like, there's so much more interesting stuff here. There's me. There's two things. One that everyone's talking about, which is like just the high level of cringe of Blake Lidley in this moment. She has her edit. She has 10 days to make an edit. So she reaches out to Matt Damon and Blake and Ben Affleck. They started artist equity. They're huge filmmakers. Like they know everything. So she was asking them both individually to watch her version. And there's like this program, obviously, like people use it's called pics. She's like, I'll give you my login. Call me for the one time passcode. So the thread between her and the demons was released and they're like, yeah, sure. We'll watch it. If your kids can watch it. If they like the book, just know it talks about domestic violence. Here, I'll give you my code. Here's what's been going on. This filmmaker slash producer slash financial is a crazy person. He's in a cult. He asked they're talking about how, you know, he called Blake's trainer and asked how much she weighed two weeks after giving birth because he has low bone density and he needs to be in shape to lift her. And so they're just like telling Matt and Lucy and Matt and Lucy are like, wow, this is crazy. Oh, also, that's great to know how Blake sees it. Like just straight up without legal docs. Like what was going on and how she described the situation. It's really helpful. And then she sort of wrote similarly to, we don't know what Ben Affleck responded because she just wrote this long, really cringy email. Like, how are we doing well? If you got to the end of this email, oh my God, you're such a good friend. Like really, like just exactly what you would think she talks like is how she talks. So she was reaching out to people in her life who she clearly was close with like or is close with because she felt comfortable enough to ask them to watch a movie, which I guess maybe Matt Damon and Ben Affleck get asked a lot, but it did seem like a big ass. Like she was like, I'm not sure if you know like about this. It's been like the nightmare of my life and here you got it. It is a big ask, but if you're a friend and this is your specialty, like I would, if my close friend was launching a podcast, I would listen to the first episode and give you my thought. It was clear that Blake really wanted her edit to win. Right. So she pulled out every gun in her arsenal and still lost. Yeah. Now that is what everyone's talking about. Although I feel like, of course, like I do think that things are so slanted when it comes to this because no one's really also talking about that in everything that's been released, there's now like two other female costars who did testify that Justin Maldoni was inappropriate. We know Jenny Slate and then her text message was released being like, he is the most crazy intense narcissist. I cannot wait for this project to be over. He is so creepy and weird. And then the actress who plays little Blake said that in the scene where she loses her virginity to Atlas, like the throwback scene, he like ended it and said to her like, that was really hot. Even though it's a scene where like she's losing her virginity, like this homeless kid, like it's like not a hot scene. Like it's like, it's, it's, it's like a deep scene. It's not hot. Yeah. Like it's not meant to be hot. Yeah. It's emotional. Right. So things are being like, there's so much more things for Blake and her crime once again is being cringe and like being weird. I don't find anything that has been released yet to be. Oh, we need to talk about the producer's guild. Okay. So, so who released these text messages? Who did? What is it proof? It's unrejited. It's not released. It's not public information. Like the trial is starting. But whose side is this proof? It depends who you want, whose side you're on and who you want to argue for. Like what is this proof? I don't know. It's also just the text messages are so personal. I don't know. 100% see how they're relevant. Like it just makes you like really. And I saw this girl on TikTok and it's so true. She's like, this is a reminder like not to put shit in writing. Like you think you're just helping your friend out with her work issue and now you're in court. Like it's insane. It's such an invasion. It is. It's messed up. It is. Like not Lucy Damon. Like she was just like being a supportive of friends. I don't want to hear your voice notes and I feel self conscious when I'm leaving them because I just don't feel like they're at the level of entertainment that a voice note should be at. Like maybe we should be leaving more voice notes. It's only made me think twice about like helping my friend out with her workplace drama. Or maybe we need like an app where it's just not like it just because you can't even talk shit in peace. So now like it's like you're not even doing anything criminal. You just want to talk shit in peace. The producers Guild letter, which is really like it's an insane letter again. Like you can see how she speaks and she's just like a really impassioned cringy like feminist and like how she talks is how she talks. So she writes this letter to the production Guild Association basically being like here's a list of all the things I've done for this project because it's a clusterfuck and nobody here knows what they're doing. And the writer producer director financier is a first time at all this and he knows nothing and he's an idiot and I'm smart and I'm big you're small. I'm dumb. So she lists out all the things that she writes us like precursor to the list being like I am impassioned woman. And all of this I think in an attempt to get a like an executive producer credit being like I've done the work of an executive producer. And so the whole issue is that she is the first lawsuit is like her. I think it's title seven title nine. I forget which one it is. It's an employment lawsuit where she is suing her employer. But this letter is like she wanted to be a producer in which case she wouldn't be an employee or she would be like an independent contractor. So this this letter like holds a lot of legal weight as to whether her lawsuit will be valid. Right. And so it's just about I don't know if this is his legal claim but at least like his public claim is that like Blake and Ryan tried to steal the movie from him and then you know get the second one and like take this whole thing that was meant to be his. And that letter even though she's like listing out all the things that he did wrong kind of proves that point that she's trying to take the movie whether it's because she thought he was incompetent or because she's just a movie stealer. Well, based on all the evidence she really thought he was like the most incompetent and he's not only financing the film he is technically the head of the studio producing it. He's the director and the star. He was spread too thin. This was his first time doing most of it on a set this big and he was just incompetent. Like there is proof like of all these things that are being released which are really bad for Blake. There is proof that I don't believe it was malicious. She really found him to be incompetent. Yeah, not like her and Ryan being like this is movies going to be gangbusters. Let's get the next one. Let's push this guy out. Now also in the text messages there's a lot of times she's like referencing him in his cult and it's more so his religion. Which like isn't a good look. I don't know anything about it. It's called the Bahai religion. She calls it a cult many times especially because you know the head of Wayfarer is Justin and this guy who's also Bahai and he is super wealthy. He's this billionaire. He's financing this lawsuit entirely. So she keeps referencing you know his religion as a cult which is not good. I don't know anything about it but it's just like you know that's not good either. I've not heard that. I don't know a lot about that religion. I've not heard that it's a cult. Right she's giving it like the Scientology treatment. Right but you know some people make you know a lot of people say all religion is a cult. Right, right. Is she a religious woman? I'm not giving the vibe. Yeah. So it's obviously not looking good for Blake but I feel like the heart of the matter is really being looked over at least by like the girls on Tik Tok who won't have sex with him. It's like well there are now three women on record saying like he was inappropriate. He was creepy. He said inappropriate things. HR violations which is like really what the start of this whole thing was. Yeah. And that's the little Lily, Jenny Slate and Blake Lively. Yeah. And the faux feminist allegations of course. But it just seems as though Taylor and Blake were like two different people. Taylor and Blake were like we're so in this together. Yeah and why aren't they friends anymore? That's what the issue. When she said I'll always have your back. Now the Baldoni stands have sort of surmised that you know Taylor found out that Blake was making all this up. No. That's what they think. I don't think that she's making all that up. I think that's how she experienced it. So I guess lesson learned don't sign on to a project with a first time director, actor, financier, producer. But that was like the board going into it and she's made many a movie. No and say what you want about Justin Baldoni. Like he sought out the project. Like he bought the script. This was his. It's not a crime to do it for the first time. It's his first time on earth too. Right. It was his project to fuck up. Like he sought out Colleen. He bought the right. Like his studio. So his cut was chosen even after Blake and all of her Khaleesi dragons did the most on their big one on her cut. They still liked his better. The movie did really well. There's nothing wrong with the movie. Not that I saw it. I watched it. I had some issues with it but overall it was a very good movie. Audience feedback. It was a real movie. He made a movie. Absolutely. So it's not like he put together some atrocity and we wouldn't see it. Whatever he made is what we saw and he made a real movie. I don't know why it was so abhorrent to her. Yeah. Yeah. And hers was worse than that. Allegedly. Yeah. Like no but they had two focus groups watch the movies and they chose Justin. So that's as objective as you can get. No it's really crazy that she pulled out like every connection she had to edit this film and she didn't win. But you said earlier that like the studio also didn't like Justin. That's why they gave her attendees. In her document she said that Sony has asked her to come up with another version. Maybe that's her version of events and she was so angry and Sony said, sure put together your own version we'll test it. Like knowing it would flow. Yeah not like Justin's is really bad Blake come save us in ten days. They're like placating to her. Blake save us in ten days. Right. Okay. Yeah. Now I don't remember like what we're all even fighting for anymore. Like if Blake wins what does she get if Justin wins what does he get. They've both been really tarnished by this. I don't agree. If Blake wins she gets nothing. If Justin wins he gets salvation. Like he gets his mmm. To me it doesn't really matter what the docs say because sorry what the court says because I do believe people have made up their mind on this. And like I do think Blake Lively's career is effectively over because of it. But she's around. She's everywhere. Yeah like a lunatic kind of like acting like no like I think she's just ignoring it moving on with her life. But I don't see her getting another legitimate project for like a decade honestly. I and her friendship with Taylor is over. I feel like this whole saga has ruined Blake Lively's career. I don't feel that way about Justin Baldoni. Well she had a bigger career to lose. She had more to lose it. You know I think he was doing like making his own projects anyway and doing weird little things so he can still do that. And like at the end of the day for him it was like a rising tide's razor all ships like he was this very lesser known. He was in one show and he had a cult following from his podcast. But like he was not a household name by any means. He is now. Yeah. Whether he likes it or not. But I don't know if that's going to translate to movie roles. No I think for the most part people would want to stay away from both of them. Like who the fuck wants this. Yeah but you'd be surprised what people can come back from. It's so true. And if the right person wants to help you like you get into the next big movie and it's over we forget about the thing that oh remember we used to talk about that all the time. Like yeah but we're just like still talking about it because it's an act. And it's not going to be over till oh I guess coming up two months. Wow that year flew. But it's just beginning. Yeah yeah but then it will be over and I'm saying like you really would be surprised what people can forget. It's true. Look at Colton. Look at Colton. Yeah. We forget stuff all the time. I remember when that was crazy. Yeah yeah. So I have hope for both of them and I think they'll need like powerful friends which she has slash had. I know. And he has his friend guy with the money. Now if I'm Lucy and Matt Damon and Ben Affleck like I'm pissed. But they don't come off badly. They're trying to help their friend. Yeah yeah but it's just like who wants to be dragged into this. I don't know. I my honestly if anything I find them favorable that's a nice thing to do for a friend. Yeah of course. And yeah it's not it's not over like you can come back. Yeah but in terms of this saga like I do feel like it's over like the Internet has decided like Blake is the villain and Justin was her victim and he almost had his life and career ruined by this evil witch and now he's saving himself. Well he does need to say like he did if he didn't do launch this legal battle he was done. He was done. Now it's like it's just more they're both done. Yeah right it's so true. But he was done. Yes. Okay you ready for our next story. The best story of the year. Razzie nominations. Okay this is kind of like our Super Bowl. This is our Super Bowl but Super Bowl. But unfortunately I really don't know a lot of these projects. So well that means they should get Razzie's. Yeah I guess I didn't like watch that much stuff but worst picture the category we're going to go through the categories category biggest one worst picture the electric state. I never heard of it. Hurry up tomorrow. Snow White. Who's Rachel Seigler. Winner. Star Trek. Who's had this year. That's insane. I mean wasn't it even bad or it was just like. It was like it had the it ends with us like so much drama it overshadowed the actual movie. People forget about the it ends with us actual film and people definitely don't even like but I do believe it was terrible between of course like the Rachel Seigler Gal Gadot anti-Semitism but then also like the dwarfs or yeah we can say. Well dwarfism like yeah yeah yeah. Yeah well that's the name of it like that's just. The little people the CGI like it was sort of just terrible curse from the start. War of the world. Mark Platt you know. I do think Snow White might sweep the Razzie's this year. Mark Platt stop just as for Mark Platt he tried. You just know. And you know it's not his fault he's a hit maker. You know Mark Platt like has a lot on his plate I feel like he goes to bed at night. Yeah I feel like he goes to Toria. Yeah with like a lot of service. Yeah from Ben Platt. Yeah his ungrateful son. Wench. Yeah yeah. Wait you're gonna give me opportunity to talk shit about Ben Platt I'm not gonna miss it. Yeah I didn't think you would. Worst actor Ben Platt. Dave Batista in the Lost Lands Ice Cube War of the Worlds Scott Eastwood Alarm I just feel like that's not fair. Just leave Ice Cube and Scott Eastwood out of this honestly. You could leave Ice Cube in it. Leave Scott Eastwood out of this. Oh my god thank you for reminding me about random people so I'm scrolling Netflix last night before we watched Tell Me Lies. And I ended up it says like Star Search which I guess is like this old show that's coming back. And I'm looking at this huge banner of the four guests. And I swear to god it was like looking at a Monet I'm like who are these people and I very quickly realized it is the most random group of people okay. And they all look so different I didn't recognize him. Jelly Roll didn't recognize. Chrissy Teigen did not recognize. What are they the judges? Sure Sarah Michelle Geller with bangs didn't recognize Anthony Anderson he was the only one I did recognize. And what are they on Star Search? Jackie I was like so confused as to what I was like and I took a picture I was like can you look tell me that you recognize and it was like the most it looked like AI generated human beings like. Well Jelly Roll you know. No but he's like new looking. Right but he has the tattoos. Chrissy Teigen was irreconcilable to me same with Sarah Michelle Geller. I think Anthony Anderson looks so recognized. He has lost a lot of weight. Yeah Sarah Michelle Geller could be 40 different people. Yeah right. Yeah. And they are the judges of Star Search. Anthony Anderson. Sarah Michelle Geller. Yeah Chrissy Teigen you can come back for anything Koji. It's so true even though I don't know if I would consider like this like a big huge comeback and I do think like Chrissy Teigen has successfully been. Rehabilitated. No not canceled because she still gets work but she's been knocked down like yeah I mean she's not at the level she was so famous. She was everywhere. Every opportunity for a model a host a funny person a talking head where's Chrissy Teigen. Yeah. She was making more money than her husband like and then of course her business cravings was huge her line of Target Pants cookbooks like. Safely. Safely. Um. The Razzies sorry. More Worst Actress Jared Leto Tron the weekend for Hurry Up Tomorrow. No one is immune. That's what I love about the Razzies. They say that death is a great equalizer. I actually believe it to be the Razzies. Yeah Worst Actress Arianna DeBose Love Hurts. I don't know that project but I feel as though she's capable of delivering a worst acting performance. I agree. I've seen that medley. Mila Djokovic in the Lost Lands Natalie Portman Fountain of Youth. Oh wow. I definitely could see Natalie Portman. I just want to say I could see Natalie Portman also delivering like one of the worst performances of the year. Yeah and like just taking on the wrong project. Right. Getting on the wrong horse. Because she's like so Hollywood like classic actress I could see her having like this really insane like. She went too hard. Sense of like self importance. Yeah. Rebel Wilson Bride Hard. Oh she was robbed. Like seriously leave Rebel Wilson alone. Oh really. I feel like she's like classic Razzies fodder. But like I feel like she takes pride in the fact that she takes on movies that like sure could be nominated for Razzie like. Okay. Right. Bride Hard. She doesn't take it so serious. When you heard the title of that movie Bride Hard. I just feel like Rebel Wilson is genuinely like a lost individual in this moment. Like I think that she lost a lot of weight and had like lost her sense of self honestly. I think that happens a lot with like actresses. They go feeling most of McCarthy went through like a weird period. Because you're just like cast exclusively as like the funny fat Fred and then you become like you don't know and then you want to do serious. Like I feel like Rebel Wilson like seriously she never found herself after she lost the weight honestly. And Michelle Yo Star Trek Wow. She's also taking big swings honorable mention to Michelle Yo and Wicked also definitely ruined the franchise. Like a worst performance. We weren't talking about it in the first film because there was so much hype and like excitement. And now that the second film is out done and dusted I do think we need to talk about how Michelle Yo like borderline ruined a lot of the music and just like the movie. Do you watch the second movie. No. Me neither. Isn't that crazy. Wicked too for money. Great joke. Thank you laser. Great joke. Worst remake ripoff or sequel. I know what you did last summer five nights at Freddy's to Smurf Snow White and more of the world. What's unfun about is that the raggedies this year is that like not only to have I not seen these pictures I have not heard of them like. It's more fun when like take a swing at something that's happening for an Oscar. Well yes but also I think that they exclusively include like traditional film releases. Whereas like they should be including like Netflix movies Hulu shows like yeah it's still a little old school the razzies the razzies need to evolve. They do need to evolve and I feel like they feel like they don't need to evolve because they're like you know what maybe we'll just like fade into oblivion like nobody's waiting. No no no we and we need the razzies to encompass like with the Golden Globes. It's a one award show that has to do a lot. You know what about your TV shows. Worst podcast. Oh my God I have a few I need to mention the good guys of course. No they don't do TV shows. No they need to evolve. Yeah we need more from the razzies. Nobody watched these movies. I'm shocked that the razzies didn't. Yeah. But don't go anywhere as we support you. And we love you. Just do better. Do you know that it stands for the Golden Raspberry Awards. No why Raspberry. I don't know. The 46th edition. I wonder who's hosting. I think it's um. Dream job. But is there an actual ceremony and I know we have this question every year. I think there is because I feel like we've reported on who hosts the razzies. Dream job. Dream job. Not this year though I'm busy. You're just a lost boy. Yeah I know who you are. But you don't know what you lost boy. Too busy chasing stars. You know. Who sings that. Kelsey Bellarini. Good to her. You are such a fucking bitch. Oh my God. Listen you. Do you want to sing something named your register. Would that make you feel more comfortable. I just did. Okay fine. No you know what. You're so unworthy of my talents. That's not true. I've been your biggest champion. Are you ready. Yes. Historically you've been. Yes. Will you continue to be. Remains to be seen. Are you ready for our third story. Yes. Actors are being weird. Red flag. Margot Robbie says she became codependent with Jacob Elordi while making Wuthering Heights. And she's like. She should be immune to this sort of like cringe clickbaity type of content. So in a new cast interview with Fandango Margot Robbie reflected on collaborating. Throwback Fandango. Fandango on collaborating with her fellow Australian star Jacob Elordi. Oh I didn't realize they were both Australian. That's cute. I should. She said I'm so codependent with people I work with and I love everyone so much and I'm always that person who's so devastated when a job's over. And I never wanted to end. I think I developed that quite quickly with Jacob too. She then recalled how Jacob hovered nearby as she worked on set. Not unlike lurking Heathcliff. Oh that Heathcliff. I don't know if Emerald the director told you to do this or you did this she said but I remember the first couple days on set he would just always be in the vicinity where I was. But like in a corner watching Kathy. I didn't tell him to do that. I actually had to ask him to leave. She said by the third day of filming I found myself starting to look around to see where he was. I was really unnerved and unmoored. And I felt quite lost. Like a kid without their blanket or something. We have a mutual obsession he agreed. If you have the opportunity to share a film set with Margot Robbie you're going to make sure you're within five to ten meters at all times watching how she drinks tea, how she eats her food. She's just like an elite actor. And like genuinely like this is where Hollywood really was. But like you would never suspect that she has a husband and child talking like this about Jacob Lordy and that he has a sometimes girlfriend Olivia Jade who he doesn't want to piss off any further than he already has because she has one foot out the door. Like this is not how people in relationships talk about other people. Like this is inappropriate. Jackie this is not how coworkers talk about one another. Like this is such an HR violation. Where's like lively. Like this is so weird. Let's talk about what happened instead of withering height. And I just feel like celebrities and actors are always trying to normalize like how weird their job is to us. Whether it's you know kissing someone and you're married. And they're like no it's normal. It's normal. And being like yeah I mean we're always codependent with like this is fucking weird. And I just like where are the actors who treat their jobs like jobs then go home to their loving family and like talk about how weird it was. The guy from Mr. Housewives. Yes. He's the only one. Shout out to whatever your name is and like I seriously and your wife. Someone else said was it George Clooney who just said that he's no longer doing roles where he's kissing. I don't know if I'm giving him way too much credit. I don't feel like he said that. And I don't feel like he does a lot of kissing. Right. But now he's like not playing the leading man. He's just like some. Right. Now you're acting like it's your choice. It's like well you're not really eligible to kiss anyone anymore. Okay. George Clooney not kissing in movies anymore. Yes. George Clooney has stated he's done with on screen kissing and romantic leading roles. I just feel like he's been done. Oh. Siding his age. Now in his 60s and his desire to follow the path of Paul Newman as he embraces older roles inspired by conversations with his wife about aging gracefully and focusing on different types of films. These are like two separate things. Right. I thought you were saying like as a ode to his wife he won't be making out anymore. He's not doing with the Desperate Housewives guy. No. And it's like it's easy to say I'm not playing the leading man in a romantic movie anymore when you're no longer being cast at the like say that in your heyday. Take the stance in your heyday. Like now it's like well of course you have taken on different sorts of roles. No. But I get what he's saying. He's not a really be-lead man in a romantic movie. He could find that job but it's really not his job anymore. So like let's leave it to others and he's trying to age grace. Kind of like Robert De Niro. He hasn't been like a leading romantic man in many years. Yeah but he's like trying to take a moral stance like he's doing it for his wife. He's been married for a long time. Did he say that? It sounded like he did it. He said I'm not kissing girls anymore. He said girls? Well I know you're 100. Why would you be kissing girls? I'm going to read you his direct quote. George Clooney says he's no longer quote kissing girls in movies. Why is he saying girls? When I turned 60 I had a conversation with my wife. He said the quote is kissing girls. I'll try and find the larger sentence. Women is the word he's looking for. Why would George Clooney the old man ever be kissing a girl? Call the police. Like that's weird. Okay. Here this is better. Quote I've been trying to go the route Paul Newman did. Quote okay well I'm not kissing a girl anymore. Okay a girl is better. I agree. But it's just a weird choice of words. It makes me give him a little you know. Yeah. When I turned 60 I had a conversation with my wife. I said look I can still play basketball with the boys. I play with 25 year old guys. I can still hang. I'm in shape. But in 25 years I'm 85 years old. It doesn't matter how many granola bars you eat. That's a real number. But that's in 25 years. This is once again. And I just feel like he's trying to be mature but he's still like I can play. I could do it if I wanted to. Right. Everybody wants me to do it because I'm so hot and sexy but I'm not going to do it. Right. And also like nobody cares. Like not to be mean. Like George Clooney has not really had like an impactful film that he's starred in in many years. Yeah. I just feel like it's easy to turn like to say this now when that's not what's coming your way. Right. You're not really giving up a lot. You're not taking up. Yeah. Right. That's what I'm saying. But yes it was George Clooney who said. The great George Clooney. Like if Jacob Elordy said I'm no longer kissing girls because I'm devoted to my love. Olivia Jade. Yeah. I would say wow. He's really sacrificing for her. Yeah. I just really want Jacob Elordy to say this. I live for you. I long for you. Olivia. I've been out of the lights and the light in your eyes. Olivia. I live for you. I long for you. Olivia. Don't let me go. You know. I think that's how he feels. And sometimes I hate my sister Olivia because there are so many amazing songs with the name Olivia in them. Of course. The one I just sang by one direction. There's also an amazing John Mayer song. Let me just remind myself of what it is. John Mayer Olivia. Yeah. I'm thinking something like Olivia could keep me through the night. Like if my name was Olivia and two of those songs existed the way they would like be my every Instagram story. If I had a riot profile it would be the theme of my life. If I was ever on Dancing with the Stars and they had the theme song night I would be dancing to Olivia by one direction. Considering your name is not Olivia, what is the theme song to your life? Jesus. That's such a big question. It's such a big question. I don't expect you to have an answer. I feel like the toasters would know better than me. I know. It's really great. I'm not going to comment. What is the soundtrack of my life? 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He's like, everybody wants my date. Oh, he also commented on someone's Instagram post and said, Brooklyn's wife was one of the worst quote celebs I've ever worked with. It's her 100%. She's a bad apple, red flag emoji. Everyone knows how close the Beckham family really is. So he said that in his story too. He got booked and he said it was the worst experience of his life. And that's kind of the theme around people who know and work with her. I have heard that for years. And yeah, when we heard it, she was a young girl and girls are allowed to grow up. And grow. But it seems like the common denominator. Yeah. And Victoria's probably, you know, she is who she is. But she's earned the right to be. And it just seems like Nicola is this like spoiled brat. Yeah. Nepo baby. I found that to be interesting. Our next story. Rumors are quietly swirling and I just want to make mention of it, though I don't think that it's true. But the Taylor and Travis have hit some snags in their wedding planning. And some people. No one's immune. People are saying they're on the rocks. And I just want to say I don't believe it to be true. I don't believe it to be true either. But like just in case it's true. Let's just talk about how crazy it would be. She like seriously, she can't like it's too late to turn my. It is. They might as well be married already. Yeah. So according to Page Six, Taylor and Travis are reportedly going through their first real test in their relationship as his potential NFL retirement loons amid their wedding planning. You know what? It is a lot of change. It's always struggle when they retire. It's like your whole identity, your whole life, like from the time you're six playing pee we whatever. I think it's a challenge for even the strongest of relationships that combined with clearly a very stressful lawsuit and. Wedding wedding planning, which is no matter how much money you have is difficult. Yeah, no, I don't think it's true, but I could see why people might. Yeah, and that there's a lot of dynamics at play. A source said that Taylor has been more focused on lifting Kelsey's quote defeated spirits following the chief's losing season than on wedding arrangements. I could see him like moping around the house. Yeah. And plus he has to retire and now he's like jobless. However, he's not. As hoist for success post retirement and anyone could possibly be he's like booked and busy. He has like dreams of Hollywood. He has his podcast like he's not jobless, just like sitting on the couch walking around the house ever compared to like getting up at 5 a.m. like working out three times a day and like being solely like dedicated and focused on one thing. It's a lot less. I mean, you can still like keep that if it's important to that routine of like crazy. There are people who get Mark Wahlberg wakes up a four in the morning to work out three times a day and he doesn't even have a athletic job. Like you can maintain that level if you want to. Yeah, but I think it's definitely tough on the body and the mind. It's a mind to go from being like a professional athlete top of your game to now. Yes, being a podcaster commentator actor, whatever, like, but your whole life was one thing and to go through that transition like while wedding planning, like let's give Travis some grace. Yes. And also, I think sometimes like it makes it easier if like, you know, your partner's in the same space as you. Like you're also winding down. Taylor's not like she's probably preparing for because she prepares like years in advance for some major tour and her like athletic schedule was probably on par with his. Yeah. Actually, I don't feel like she's preparing for a tour right now. I don't know. I mean, I think they're building the crib in the nursery. In the documentary, she like, you know, she starts the rehearsals and the training like in your in advance. But didn't she say recently she is not touring again anytime soon? I feel like she said that. I hope so. I feel like she left it all at the Aero's tour. Good, good, good. Like you worked hard. Like you do it as they're five years off and like I want you to get married and have kids and I'm giving you the space to do that. So keep releasing like your 800 albums. I'll buy all of them to support. Like I need your t-shirt that comes in six months. Like if that's what you need to settle down, do it. Yeah. So, Sour says Taylor's trying to put him in a better mood by spending more time with him and not bombarding him with wedding plans. She would want him to focus on the wedding after he makes his career decision because she knows how important that is to him. I think also being up in the air about what to do. Once you make the decision, you can go forth, prosper, but being in the purgatory of not sure is terrible. What do you think he should do? It's tough because he's a part of this like dynasty team, but everyone's younger than him. And so like Patrick's not the game at retiring. Patrick's career just started. And a lot of like the new guys who I do think make Travis like a little redundant in the roster. They're all younger than him. Like the team will go on to win another Super Bowl in the next couple of years. Can Travis's body hold out? Like no. And he's had an amazing career. Like let it, he should have, I know, could have, would have should have. He should have retired after last year. He made it to the Super Bowl. Losing the Super Bowl is still an amazing way to retire. It's ideal to go out after a Super Bowl win, but not everyone is Tom Brady. It didn't even go out after a Super Bowl win. Well, the first time he did, right? He went out perfectly. He shouldn't just fucking let sleeping dogs lie. Right. But so like they can't actually can't know men are sick for someone to go out after winning the Super Bowl or getting to the Super Bowl. The argument would be, well, they're at the top of their game. Right. Why would they quit now? Right. It cannot go out on top. It is impossible for them. So could have, would have should have, he should have retired last year. And now like to go out like this is obviously terrible. So I understand. Even like, no, I understand. Why? Because now it's like, well, obviously losing the Super Bowl is a much better way to go out than not even making the playoffs. Like I understand why he's struggling so much, but it's almost like that decision paralysis is the worst part. Just do it. Make a decision. Stay or go. Now, I feel like this is the perfect segue into talking about the next story that I absolutely have to talk about. Tell me lies. Oh, no, I thought you were talking about Tom Brady. Oh, yeah. So I would like to thank the person who let me know that on July 23rd, 20, no, excuse me, July 20, July 13th, 2023, you know, when I heard that Alex Earl was spotted with Tom Brady, I was like, I feel like I predicted that, but I think that I predicted everything and I think that the world revolves around me. But on July 13th, 2023, we were talking about Alex and I'm cracking up. We spelled her name wrong. That Alex and Earl, Alex and Earl and Braxton and Barry. And Hicks were spotted at the SBs like the first red carpet appearance. And I remember we had this conversation and I'm going to play it for you guys. Okay. Shout out to the toaster who is listening to old episodes and found this. I was just being a hater being like, I, you know, it's so cute, but like, don't you feel like she could do better? Ready? Yep. Turn it up. Oh, God, please, please, please. We're talking about Alex and Braxton. Yeah, but like, you know, she rose to stardom. She's in a very unique position where like she could be really like she could do Tom Brady if she wanted like, let's aim higher. But what about love? What if she loves him? What about love? Okay. What about love? Sometimes you don't consider love. Like, do you think she would love Tom Brady genuinely? Yes, I think what really truly anyone could. You think? What if he's a torturer? No, but if he's like the worst personality, it's like totally possible. You don't get tense across the board in life. Like you don't get to be like the best quarterback of all time and also be like the most interesting dinner party. Yes. That everyone wants to talk to. And the most handsome. All he cares about is football and his friends and his mom. Is that bad? Honestly, I could listen to all the episodes like for an eternity. I just want to say we are two of the funniest, dazzling, funniest, perceptive, insightful girls I've ever met. Not only did I not predict what I was going to say next, like I feel like I'm listening to a stranger at 10s across the board who talks like that dinner party. I don't like genius. The fact that we have so many haters genuinely blows my mind. Oh my God, how enjoyable. What a great podcast. I just wanted credit for that. I should listen to all the episodes as a toast so I can have the experience of listening to the show, not knowing what we're going to say. I can't because I'm always like, well, I should have said this. That would have been funnier. Like, no, I have no notes on that. No, that was hysterical. Those girls are a sleigh. I should feel like we're moving away from the more important point, which is that I accurately like predicted this. Yes. Oh, such a jealous bitch. You're such a well-read. Like, what's your prediction? You predicted that she was going to rub a back in St. Bart's? Yeah. Well, the story was that was going to segue into like talking about Claudia's great call. Jordan Hudson and Alex Earl hanging out together at College Football National Championships. We didn't even talk about the National Championship. Yes. It was such a big deal here in Florida. Yes, they were. Everyone was like, are you going to the game? And I'm like, which one? Hoosiers from Indiana played here for the Miami Canes College football. Miami lost. Sorry, Alex Earl. And it was crazy because the championship was said to be in Miami and then Miami was in the championship. It's kind of how like the 49ers should be in the Super Bowl because the Super Bowl is in San Francisco this year. But they're not even in the semifinals. What? Did they make it? Are they in the four? It's over. They lost. Remember, Harry told you. Oh, yeah. But I thought we were just like talking about the playoffs started. Yeah. Now we're down to four teams and then they're weirdest teams of all time. That's why I haven't heard about it. No celebrities. You could have never guessed which teams. Seahawks, Russell Rams, Patriots. What's the fourth team? Broncos. What? No celebrities except like the Rams. Yeah. What? Everyone's really shocked that the Patriots would be in and apparently they're playing a team next week whose quarterback has an injury so they don't have their quarterback. So the Patriots are going to be in the Super Bowl. Okay. Everyone's like, oh my God, Robert Kraft's going back to the Super Bowl. I'm happy for him. He probably didn't think like after Tom. Jordan put on her story, a picture of her and Alex Rowell at this game and it led people to believe that perhaps Tom and Alex went to the game together because why would these two be in a suite together? Their connection is the Patriots. She's dating Bill Belichick. Tom Brady's lover coach. It was a joke that Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are on double dates. I don't know. Why was it a joke? Like why would they be in the same? Oh, just because it's like a VIP suite. Yeah, but this is like Alex's town. Even though Alex made a lot of content. She went to a big pregame like with her college friends it looked like. Then I saw her with like Miami people like Dave Gruntman. So I don't know. Maybe like she was, I don't know. Jordan, I can't. I think she got there on her own. I don't think Tom Brady went to the college football championships and like this is her town. She runs this town. She got, I think she had the better ticket. She runs this town for sure. For the Miami, she has her own scholarship at school. Yeah. For the Hurricanes and the championship. She could have any seat in the stadium. She's got the one next to Jordan. I think Jordan just went up to her and took a picture. Alex looks like she's posing with a fan. Let me see. Oh sweet smile. Go away. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Have a great day. Tom was there. Tom was there. Wow. Are they the next Travis and Kelsey? No. Like this is, while I predicted it, I don't actually like want them to be a long term couple. This is just a stepping stone for Alex. So like maybe it was a date. This is a perfect date for them. I just want to say she looks like she's taking a picture with a fan. I think Jordan just walked up to her from her suite. Like Jordan would Jordan. Yeah. Jordan has balls of fucking steel. Yeah, she really does. So that feels right. So yes, this podcast is going to be turning into a sports podcast soon. We've been laying low. Yeah, we have. We've been very dormant. And I realize the 49ers were out like, you know what made me sad? The bills are out. And I am officially ready for a bills Super Bowl. Of course I'm biased because of Haley and her blossoming family. But Josh Allen deserves it. And I saw a headline. I was watching Zach's show with him, unfortunately. And the headline was like, is Josh Allen wasting his prime years on the bills? Oh no. And I think the bills fired their head coach after losing their game because I don't think he has what it takes. They need to just blame someone. No, I think like he's what's holding them back because I think everything else about the bills is really strong, but they're not making it to the Super Bowl. They are kind of cursed. I do believe it was like the OJ years that just sort of set them off on the wrong path. I don't think so. But I think they're like the ultimate underdog. Yeah, you know, I'm like, if the NFL is scripted, they're not doing a good job. Like no offense. No, no, this isn't bad script. Yeah. Or like somebody went off script. Yeah. Like someone scored when they weren't supposed to score. Correct. They got carried away. They were supposed to throw the game because I don't think anybody was like prepared for this. So what is it going to be like Seahawks Broncos Super Bowl? What is that? What is that? I don't know. Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I try to help out our community. This is sort of our philanthropic efforts we're giving back. If you guys ever want to... It's tax deductible. Yes, it is. If you guys ever want to hear from us, you're going through something at work with a friend and a relationship, email us. DearToasters at gmail.com or simply head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. Scroll down. There's a little submission box. Both methods are totally anonymous. Hey, Spurlys. I need some advice on how to handle my mother-in-law. Just kind of giving the toxic mother-in-law theme. I recently just had my first baby and my mother-in-law has been getting on my last nerve. First, she came into the room to meet my baby and went and be-lined to my husband, told him how proud she was of him right after I just gave birth. My husband told her immediately how proud of me he was, which I thought would shut her up. Last week, we saw her and she mentioned to my husband how she got him a push present because he had done so much. She is getting a round of golf for him for himself. I feel like this is so backwards because he didn't even push a baby out. What should I do? Should I say something the next time that this comes up? Oh, my God. That's so offensive. As a future toxic mother-in-law, even I can't defend this behavior. But I do want to say it is 100% incumbent on your husband to handle this. Yes, of course. Not only has he just had a baby, but also because it's his crazy mom. He obviously is not going golf and you just had a fucking baby. Not only did she give him a push present, she gave him the worst. She gave him a job. You are now alone with the baby for eight hours. I don't think so. He's not allowed to accept the gift. He needs to return the gift and say, please spend this money and thought and time and energy on my wife. She just was pregnant for 10 months and pushed out a baby and is broken and can't walk. So for the wife, please, he needs to put his foot down. This ain't your problem. Just let me know. I just want to say as a future toxic mother-in-law, I imagine God willing, like when I have a daughter-in-law who gives me a grandchild. You're still a woman. I'm going to love this woman. I did it. I know what it takes. You gave me a grandchild. Move aside, boys. Yes. We are mothers, but we're still women. So I actually cannot relate to not seeing the woman in the room when you've done that yourself. It's so true. Do you really forget that much? Yeah. And it's like, while we love our children so much, we're still common sense adults. Yeah. I can recognize that up until the point of having the baby, like in pregnancy, a man can support his wife. You know, and you're allowed to be proud of your son. Like a lot of men step up. A lot of men are amazing partners. You can tell them that in private, not 45 seconds after the woman gave birth. For sure. But like compared to other women, it's absurd. It's not even 1%. It's not even. And you know that. So I really cannot understand being so silly in the moment. I really can. I'm sorry that's happened to you. Feel free to just, and that's a great thing about having a baby. Babies give you love, of course, but they also give you power because everybody wants to see the baby. So everybody, you know who's in charge of who gets to see the baby? You. You know, you're in the corner that you wield that power like a knife. And so if she wants to act that way, that's amazing. You'll never see the baby. Like it is your package deal. 1000%. Next up. Hi. I have a relationship slash money question. Last week I was going to the farmer's market and I wanted to have some cash on hand. I was at my boyfriend's house. We've been together for three years. He wasn't home. So I grabbed $100 out of his little drawer and I texted him that I was borrowing some cash. It slipped my mind to Venmo him. And a few days later, he kind of freaked out on me. He said that when you borrow money from someone, you need to remember to pay them back. I said, I was sorry. And I sent him the money immediately, but I felt like it was a kind of odd reaction. Like I said, we've been together for three years. We basically live together. I buy groceries. I cook most nights of the week. I've never asked him to pay me for his half. Am I overreacting by feeling weird that he was mad I didn't pay him back immediately? Or was I taking advantage of him? You were not taking advantage of him. You did nothing wrong, like in my mind, but people are different about money and people are weird about money. And I guess the idea of actually taking cash from him is different than if he paid for you for something. But it's not. But after three years, he should be happy that he had the cash to give you to go enjoy your afternoon at the farmers market. It's very ungenerous of spirit. Now if you're together for three years, I imagine there's a lot of good in your relationship. But you guys clearly have different philosophies when it comes to money and that could be a problem down the line. Yeah, it could be a problem. Mostly if you just don't address it. So you're buying groceries and cooking X nights a week and he's nickel and diming. You want some borrowed cash? Well then it's time for an invoice. Here's three years worth of groceries. My time, of course, my labor hours, I'm very expensive. It doesn't just go one way. Like when you're generous. Right. And at the end of the day, you went to the farmers market to get ingredients for him for his lazy ass. I like your approach. Communication does seem like the solution. It's not like, okay, when I borrow cash from you, I have to Venmo you. But when I do household things, it goes unnoticed. If we're going to be now splitting things, let's split them. And also like you want to take me to task for not paying back money that I want to take you to task for having an issue with me not paying back money that I borrowed. Like he thinks he's on his high horse because you should pay back money. Well, you should be generous. Well, of course, with your lady love. And so if this is a three year relationship, it does sound like maybe you guys, like you've lived together, you're going to get married. Money is the thing you have to talk about and clearly. You need to teach him generosity. Yeah. Just the way he's teaching you about, you know, paying back. And I just want to say there's nothing worse than having to teach a man generosity. Like it should be his spirit. Well, hopefully he's open. Well, maybe, you know, people have different philosophies around money. So maybe there's a reason why he is the way that he is. But you just sound lovely. Like you go to the farmer's market and you cook for your boyfriend. I know. And he's like kind of a curmudgeon and he sounds gay. So I would break up with him. I would. I know this is a small thing, but it's pissing me off. I would have a conversation first. I thought that was like a mature. Yeah. But you could always break up with him, you know, you could always hit that button. Yeah. First, like, try and get through to him and explain, like, first of all, you were, you could have been buying yourself a Chanel bag with that $100. I don't care what you were doing, but at the end of the day, you were buying groceries for him to share at home. And if he wants to itemize everything in your life, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Right. Of course. And then, you know, about the pink tax. Right. You know, you have to buy tampons, makeup and all these things just to survive in the patriarchy. So and then you also make 70 cents on the dollar. So it sounds like at this point he owes you money. Yeah. Get out your checkbook. Fifth and final, whatever it is. Hi guys. I love my fiance, a pijama, but every time he eats, he licks his fingers when he's done like a child. It's loud, it's wet and it instantly sends a shiver down my spine. I can be sitting there reminding my business and then comes the sucking noises and suddenly I'm so close to throwing a lot of napkins in his face. I've made jokes to him before, like, how do those fingers taste? And I even flat out mentioned to it while he does it, but he just laughs it off and keeps on going. And now I'm sitting there twitching like I'm in a horror movie. Every time he takes another bite. Am I being a future naggy bitch wife or is this actually like really gross and annoying? How is this, are you always eating finger food? Should I bring it up again? If so, how? Thanks, love you, bye. Yeah, it does sound like licking your fingers is something only you do when you're eating with your hands, which is not every 100% of the time, like ribs, hamburger, chicken fingers. Maybe he eats like a toddler because everything we just mentioned. Okay. Well, you need to start not to make it about you, but like you need to start promoting utensil usage. Yeah, no, making meals that use utensils. This is where like being a wife, um, like kind of coincides with being a mother and it's like really annoying when you have to mother your husband and like teach them basic hygiene or just basic decorum. Even those foods we just mentioned aside from ribs, hamburger is a clean, you don't need lick off a hamburger. No, it's just ribs. It's just ribs. Chicken fingers are dry eating chicken dust, like yeah, Jackie, hot dog, bun, clean. Yeah, what is he eating? Unless you're eating cheese doodle. So that's the only time you can lick a finger is when you're eating like a cheddar popcorn, a dusty snack. Even then, like fingernails are so disgusting. It's actually really gnarly. And that's why I washing his hands before the meal. That's why I love being a mom because I always have wipes on me now. And I find myself using them for myself more like Cheeto dust is really yucky actually to lick off because fingers are just gross. Yeah. So I just feel like this is a situation where we need to like not be beaten. He's going to get sick. Like he's going to get E. Coli. He like this is a situation where you need to not like be around the bush. People who lick their fingers. Oh, the sound, all of it, like I don't know what's gross or like the visual, the like the audible sound. It's fucking gross. So tell me you can't dine with him. Yeah. Tell him that he can have his dinner outside, like with the pigs. Like it's just sick. It's really disgusting. Yeah. I hate that like this is a part of, you know, womanhood. I feel like Scott Galloway, you know, he's all about like how men are like lost. And it's true. Like you have to teach them basic human high like hygiene. The things that we have to like train our men to do. And I feel like I have a pretty good man. Like, and I'm still being like, we have to go brush our teeth. Like it's just like it is a serious issue. I appreciate Scott Galloway like actually saving. I don't know. He's not like referring to like this specifically, but just more so like generally. It's a real issue. I'm sorry. And I'm sorry. And I feel like we need to, we can be like, well, you could get him a pair of gloves. No, you could make a salad. You know what? It's time for a stern talking to call his mother. Like it's really disgusting. The things we like let men get away with. Because you know what? It's hard to get a guy. Yeah. And the future of civilization depends on us dealing with this. Maybe he could eat with a glove on. And then that's what I'm saying. That's how we got here. End of the meal. He could take it off like a doctor. This is how we got here. Like where the bar is in hell. I'm just looking for solutions, you know, I'm looking. You're looking for short term solutions because first he's looking his fingers. Then he's eating his earwax. Like we need to nip this issue in the butt. No, but like once he's using the glove, he will get accustomed to not licking his fingers and then that will become habit and over time. COVID strikes again and we're out of gloves. Over time, you can remove the glove. I just think like training wheel. I just think you're an enabler. I think I'm a peace protector and I want also known as an enabler perhaps. And I want you to have your peace. And I don't know how to really change your behavior like this. So glove it is. No glove, no love. Well, that's you tell him when he gets into bed. No love, no love. 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