The Von Haessler Doctrine: S16/EP029 - Chewth-Pick

Thanks for listening to the Von Hessler Doctrine podcast. Follow the Doctrine on YouTube, Facebook, Twitch, Instagram, and Twitter for even more content. Let me turn that microphone off. What a great start. Live from wherever we are, it is the Von Hessler Doctrine. Eric is off today. And there are three doctrinaires here. Myself, Tim Andrews. George Clark, who's behind the glass over there, getting audio for us. And, of course, Jared Yamamoto. Hi, Jared. Hey, Tim. How are you doing, buddy? I'm much better now. Well, I walked by you, and I was a little worried about you about 15 minutes ago. Are you good now? Yeah, I'm good. I had an interview in here today. I had a couple people in here today for my weekend show, The Popcast, which airs at 7 p.m. on Saturdays. days so that's two days from now book market i had michael rips and charlie mustard they are from jittery joe's coffee in hathens and i was interviewing them about their partnership with fox theater and as i was leading them out i noticed what's that area in glass back there with all the pictures on it the fishbowl the fishbowl yeah i walked by the fishbowl i saw oh look at all these really cool ai images of everybody in the building and there's you and there's the von Hessler Doctrine, which the only person in that that looks like somebody is Eric. And I'm like, where's mine? I did one. Why is mine not up there? And I started stewing about it. And I got distracted from taking my guests back upstairs. And I'm like, they got Ann there. And Ann left a week ago. Oh, our digital girl. That's right. Yeah. It's not her fault. And all of them look really good. But mine's not up there. And I was really bothered by that. And I got those old feelings from when I was in radio 10 years ago. I'm being excluded from everything. And so I've kind of got to blame you. Yours is there. It's prominent. Why didn't you put mine there? You know what? Was there a mandate that you email somebody who was in charge of that? Yes, there was a corporate email. And I believe I had made mine. I was one of the first ones that submitted. I'm all the way down the end. And so I gave mine, I think, before everybody else started really sending there. So I did not realize that you had wanted me to send your AI caricature. Well, I would certainly like to be included. I mean, it's bad enough the picture down there of me is from 10 years ago. I mean, I look really good. I have that cool mustache. Oh, that mustache is awesome. Yeah, that was a good mustache. I can't do it anymore because there's too much white in it, and I'm not going to be the old man with a mustache. So I shave now. I liked yours. You had your little dog on your desk. Yeah. It was cute. Yeah, and even had the eye missing. I'm glad you said that about the team photo, the Von Hessler Doctrine one, because I believe I've got glasses, which I don't wear in that one, and nobody actually looks like it. And Jared's a conjoined twin. and he has something growing out of his shoulder. Is that the one that you sent to them? Yeah, that's the one. Because Eric did it like 50 times. Eric made that image. He sent it to me, and then I sent it to our people over on that side of the building, the sales side. You know, and I don't normally go for trends, right? I'm not a trendy guy. Typically not, no. I dress like, I don't know, I dress like a college student, and I'm 55 years old. Nothing wrong with that? Maybe. I think my wife thinks I could dress better Well, you know I mean, everybody can dress a little bit better, right? I'm wearing a Bigfoot shirt, for goodness sake That's a cool Bigfoot shirt Thank you You have cool t-shirts George and I sort of dress similarly Slovenly? Yes And I love that look I adopted that look in the late 80s And I've kind of stuck with it Except for when I had a corporate or a restaurant job Where I had to dress like, you know, they wanted me to dress Well, you know what you like And that's important Yeah, hoodies That's good that in your middle age that you are still now, your middle age. I think I'm past middle age. I'm being nice. So while you're there in your middle age, you know what you like. You know that you like the hoodies. I do. I love the oversized XX hoodie, even though I don't need it. You know, I look okay in an XL. But I have that fat guy thing because I used to be a fat guy. A fat guy for a long time, and then I lost all the weight. But you still have that mentality. Were you a fat guy longer than you've been a skinny guy? No. Good for you. Well, I was chubby in high school, and then, I don't know, 11th, 12th grade, I started coming out of that, and I got fit, and I was in sports and stuff. And then, you know, I slimmed through college, but around 2000, like 99, 2000, I just gave up. And I think my largest was 265. Does it change your perspective on life or social interactions when you're a bigger guy? Do you think you're like maybe less vain? or uh no no no i was just lazy and i didn't care how i looked and then one day i decided i need well you know what happened is that the old radio show i was on including eric where they were making fun of me so much and bullying me i'm like i gotta do something about this you got bullied into skinniness uh-huh uh-huh and you know i've sort of kept that way but you keep that mentality with you you keep that mentality i gotta wear something that's that's comfortable i gotta wear something bigger you know i'm trying to hide yeah even though i've now i've gone through the trend of you remember i don't know was it 10 years ago when it was you had to be skinny you had to wear skinny clothes right and you wanted to always look skinny and slim and you know yeah i'm glad that trend is out because there were some pants that i had on that were so tight that you could see my calves through the jeans yeah i'm glad you don't do that anymore yeah i'm like nope no thanks so sexy it would just distract me the whole show and then yeah i'm i decided a long time ago that if I do have to wear dress pants, I'm a pleated guy. I like the pleats. Okay, there's nothing wrong with the pleats. Pleats are kind of coming back a little bit, but I think the conclusion that I'm coming up with here is that if you were bullied out of being fat by the other show, telling you, you know, say, hey, fatty, fatty, lose weight, lose weight. No, they called me Big Fat Tim. Big Fat Tim. And they had a sounder. If they... Tuba or what? Huh? Was it like a tuba? No, a Big Fat Tim. If they were able to successfully bully you out of being fat, then it sounds like you're asking for help now, that you want us to bully you into changing your wardrobe, right? No. Coming in here, dressing in a button-down, dressing in some nice pants. It wouldn't affect me. Dressing for success. It would not affect me now. It would not affect me. You know, I shave now. I never used to shave. I shave every once in a while. But, no, you can't bully me. You'd have to find something. Like yesterday, Eric, I don't think he was bullying me. He was very much with kid gloves saying that I should take GLP-1s to try to quit smoking. Right. Thankfully, Dr. Joe disagreed with that in his way. He didn't want to challenge Eric. No, he didn't want to challenge him. You thought he disagreed with him? I thought he was saying. Oh, there he did. Oh, did he? Okay. Yeah. He was saying the risk-reward, risk-reward. But overall, I don't think Dr. Joe is pro-GLP-1s, unless you know you are morbidly obese and you need them. I wouldn't get on them just because it's so early. You know, it's been like a year or two, maybe, that we've seen these things around. and who knows what happens. I don't think it would work for me. Oh, okay. Because I'm a different kind of smoker. I'm not somebody that wakes up in the morning thinking, oh, I need nicotine. I never really get that Jones. It's like having something in my hand. An anxiety thing. It's an anxiety thing or it's I have to have something in my hand. When I was a kid, I always chewed pencils, chewed pens. I would just chew them to oblivion. And if I didn't have those, I would chew up tablet paper. Like I would walk through my elementary school with a wad of tablet paper. And then, you know, throw it someplace. Be disrespectful. Did you ever do, like, chewing tobacco at any point? Yeah, I did. I didn't. But you don't chew it. You just put the dip in. So that doesn't sate me, like, having something in my hand, you know, cigarette. I have issues, Jared. Maybe you could bully me out of that. Yeah, I did chew. Did you ever chew? I have a couple of times. I wouldn't say I ever got into it, though. The big thing now is everyone's into those Zins. Well, yeah. I haven't tried that yet. I have an unopened can of Zin in my car. That is like a rite of passage. You become an instant buddy with somebody. Club on Zoom. Yeah, if you're from anywhere from a baby shower to a wedding to just at the bar, right? If somebody comes up to you and they offer you a Zin or you offer them a Zin, they're like, oh, okay, we're buddies now. Well, this is awesome. Well, that's the thing. That's the thing about tobacco, big tobacco. You lose out on the cigarette revenue, which they are losing out on, which is why they keep going up in price. And people aren't dipping as much as they used to, unless you play baseball, because I still see them dipping all the time. Right. But they have to find new ways, so that's where the vaping comes in. Well, the vaping gets pushed out. You notice that for a while you couldn't get – the only thing you could get was that one kind of vape. It was the little square one that people use. Oh, the Juul. The Juul, yeah. And now you can get them at any gas station, the disposable ones, and you see them everywhere. And where I agree with what Eric has brought up so many times is when you go up to these gas stations, you see the whole line of different things. They have every flavor, and they look appetizing, right? Like, is there, like, you know, these bright yellows, these bright reds? I'm like, oh, it's strawberry banana. Oh, it's mango. And it's like, how in the world can that not be targeting young teenagers? Well, it is. Of course it is. And cigarettes used to go after kids, too. But they're federally prohibited from doing so. But the thing about those vapes is they're all sweet flavors or, you know, they're ice cream-ness or fruity and everything. When I last put in effort to stop smoking, I decided to switch to vaping. And I went into these places, all these disposable vape shops that are ubiquitous throughout the city, and they would laugh at me when I'd ask for, you know, do you have a coffee flavor or anything that's not sweet? And one guy goes, yeah, but they like them sweet. And I'm not making fun of the guy. That's just how he said it. That's what I remember in my head. And then so I tried, you know, the fancy ones where you've got to buy the carburetor and the juice. Right, right. That's a process, by the way. That's like changing your own oil in your car right now to just load that thing up. I would rather change my own oil rather than spill nicotine juice all over my hands or leave it laying around where a child could find it or anything. A cigarette. Were you tuning them so that you could blow big clouds? No, dude. It would work for a day, and then when things had to be fixed, I was like, I'm done with this. Well, you're not cool if you're not blowing big clouds. Well, yeah. Is that his name? That's what I call him. Yes. So really what I need to do is just get a replacement and not necessarily the nicotine, but it's just to have something in my fingers. So I ordered these things. ChatGPT has become my buddy, my go-to. Oh, no. No, no, it's great. We have a great relationship, Dex and I, and that's what I call it. Dex? Yes, I call it Dex. I don't know why I call it Dex. It just did. And so we have this thing, and it led me to Amazon where they have, I suggest, do they have silicon adult chew toys? And they do. And they're targeted at millennials and mostly Gen Z because they're bright colors and you wear them around your neck. And it's, you know, if you have, what do they call it? Stimming. Well, stimming is, yeah. And it's neurodivergency and stuff like that. I don't know what any of that stuff means. I just know that I was a spaz when I was young. Sure. And still am. So don't knock me for saying spaz. So I said to Dex in chat, I don't want one that looks like something a Gen Zer would wear around their neck and chew on while they're at work. I said I want one that looks like an adult. Was it like a shark tooth or something like that? No, no, no. They do have those. I believe it. A rubber shark tooth or I can just put it right in your mouth and chew on it. No, they're bigger than toothpicks, and they call them tooth picks. So you just chew on them, and they're not wooden, so I won't get splinters. You can get one of those Jawsercizers. What do they call that? Looksmaxing? Yeah, you can looksmax and... I'm beyond looksmaxing. I'm on the other side of wanting to do any of that stuff. You've got that nice haircut now. I do have a nice haircut. Every once in a while, you've got to treat yourself to a non-chain place haircut. So no GLP-1. No GLP-1. I'm going to try the ChewStick. No Jawsercizing, but you will get the ChewStick. I will get the ChewStick. What if you get judgment here at the station? I don't think anybody will judge. Okay. All right. You don't think at one point you walk by somebody, they see a grown man chewing on his necklace. I'm not going to be walking around chewing. It's not a necklace. I told her I don't want that. It's something you keep in your pocket. Okay. But either way, so a grown man chewing on... I'll do it in here in the studio. What is it, about the size of a cigarette? Yeah. You've got to have that heft in your hand. Does it have a flavor? Is it like a pencil? No, it's no flavor. I don't need the flavor. Okay. I don't want flavors. I don't like sweet, yucky. They did have sweet cigarettes for a while in the early 90s, late 80s, early 90s. They were vanilla flavored. So it was like a combination of the candy cigarette and the classic cigarette. Yes, and they were called capris, and my mom smoked them. So when I ran out of cigarettes, I would bum one of hers, and it was this god-awful, it was as thin as a, I don't know, very thin. Thinner than a chopstick. Okay, wow. I'm proud of you for at least trying something different, Tim. I know yesterday that we were bombarding you about those GLP-1s. Well, it didn't bother me. I mean, like I said, years ago, it would have bothered me. Leave me alone. I don't want to talk about that stuff. But Eric was trying. He came from a good place. But I'm not going to do the daily shot. Yeah, and just because even with the story that we brought up yesterday, just because there were a couple of case studies of people stopping smoking or stopping addictive habits because they were on a GLP-1 does not necessarily mean, to your point, that it would suddenly work for you as well. Right. Right, and I would hate to take away a dosage of GLP-1s that could be used to help somebody slim down. Right, exactly. Thank you. Thank you. There's not enough GLP-1s to go around. As we saw from the Super Bowl, right, from all the ads, right, there's not enough GLP-1s to go around, Tim. Is that true? You know what? Are we running out of GLP-1s? I just, my conclusion after watching all of the commercials, honestly, watching TV all this week, too. Yeah. I watched my West Georgia basketball game last night along with the Super Bowl. All the ads were GLP-1s and AI. Those are all the ads right now. Those two things, GLP-1, AI, and then maybe some kind of other pharmaceutical drug. But for the most part, those are the same things. A lot of pharmaceutical drugs. Yes, but those are the two big ones, though. Gambling. Gambling is certainly big, especially with sporting events. But if you go somewhere where it's not athletic or not sporting events, like surprisingly with the Olympics, I have not seen a lot of gambling ads during it. Because you can't gamble on it. That's probably what it is. You can probably open positions on Calci and Polymarket, but you probably can't gamble on it internationally using FanDuel or whatever. Those apps that we can't use here, right? Yeah. Have you opened any positions recently? Yeah. Everything I've done on Calci, I initially put $25 in, and every single thing I've done has lost. Oh. Because I bet the last $3 I had, I bet on the Patriots to win. so even if they won I would be upset that they won but I would still get 11 bucks and I felt that was suitable they didn't pull it off for you no they did not and if I had cashed out when the Bills were playing it's the Broncos it was the one before that if I had cashed out because I bet on them to lose if I had cashed out at a certain time I would have won like 80 bucks but I said I'm going to roll with my team and then I lost well that's the risk of gambling right Yes, and you take a lesson from Pete Rose, never bet against your team. Yes, exactly. Because you know Pete Rose didn't ever bet against his team to win. He bet to win. That's why I think even now, you know, rest in peace, I think that he – Oh, he should have been put in 10 years ago. He absolutely should have been put in. It's been way, way overdue at this point. I'm happy for Andrew Jones, very happy for Andrew Jones. I've met him a couple times. He's a nice guy, and, you know, I like the Braves. I've lived here long enough. We didn't get a root for them. been watching them on TV since 1981 when we got the TBS up in Pennsylvania. But you've got to have Barry Bonds in there. You've got to have Roger Clemens. You've got to have A-Rod. Those guys all belong in a lot of other people. Mark McGuire. Absolutely. Sammy Sosa. They belong in the Hall of Fame. Just do it. Is it a dumb deal that they're never going in? I don't know. It's not a dumb deal they're going in. Never. I mean, as the eras change, right? Yeah. Like with any sport, Like, they typically, after a while, they lighten up. They're like, ah, okay, all right. They have let other users into the Hall of Fame. It's just these guys are notorious. And I saw a story about Barry Bonds that Netflix is thinking about bringing him on to be a color guy. Yeah, I guess they're having some opening day games on Netflix, and he would be one of the commentators during their pre- and post-game. See, I've always thought that is something he should do, because I know that a lot of sports writers don't like him, and he didn't like them either. But he has a great voice. He knows a lot about baseball. I think it's been a long time, and that might be his redemption arc, where he comes in and he does a really good job as an announcer and an analyst. I think that's something Barry Bond should do, and I think he should be in the Hall of Fame. And again, I know a lot of people don't like him. I got to interview him one time, and I was in line to interview him. And there was a newspaper reporter there. Barry Bonds had just come out of the shower. He had a towel around him. I've told this story before, but in case you haven't heard it. He had a towel around him, and the reporter was just needling him, trying to talk to him. And he goes, man, I just got out of the shower. And he dropped his towel on purpose so the guy had to look at him naked, which I saw him naked. and I do have to say that the rumors about steroid use are not true. Oh, okay. At least in this case. Might be anecdotal. So the message for all the young kids out there. Go ahead and take those. No, we're not a messaging show. But I told him, I said, I have a list of ten questions I'd like to ask you. Jason Schmidt, by the way, had organized this because, you know, he was in Atlanta Brave before he was on the Giants. And the guy couldn't have been nicer. I made him laugh. He said, hey, man, have a great weekend. That was fun. But he wouldn't let me record it, so I had to. you know, had to relay it all from memory. But hey, listen, you had the towel story. Yeah. And you, and you were able to, he's the best takeaway. He's, and you found out he's a good, he's a good guy. And redemption stories are great, whether it's sports or whether it's entertainment. Yeah. You like to hear a good redemption story. I think kind of in the same vein, I would love to hear, you know, because there's so much negativity surrounding Britney Spears lately with how, there's no redemption art coming from Britney. You don't think so? I really, I'm pulling for one. I really want one, especially with her selling her music catalog. She sold her music catalog. I find it very difficult to believe that she wrote any of those songs. Maybe she wrote some lyrics, and that's why she gets it. Probably. But she needs money. Yeah. Imagine how much money she's blown through since they took her dad off of being her guardian, right? The conservatorship, I believe. Check it out on that one. Yeah, we don't enjoy it. That was good. But she obviously needs a guardian. And who's advising her to sell it? Maybe she needs the cash. I don't know. She could put some of those videos behind a paywall. Well, yeah. Oh, that's true. What is she, 40-something? Yeah, but she's still Britney Spears. I know she's Britney Spears. Don't put it behind a paywall. It sounds like George is rooting for a Britney Spears-only fan. That's what I was going to say, or fansly. I just want her to have some money to support herself. Yeah, I think she should live off of her royalties and relax. Maybe go do a show or two. Well, she could commentate for baseball on Netflix. She could. Imagine that. Barry Bonds and Britney Spears together. John Rocker. That would be, yeah, have John Rocker with him too. Exactly. Have the three of them all together. Hey, go back to Mexico, man. It would be entertaining. You ever see his tweets? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You were mentioned, so you, is it not him? No, it's him. Yeah, it's his tweets. You follow him on Twitter. Okay, I got you. Or X or whatever. Yeah, you follow him on X. They're very weird. Yeah. I mean, he's got, you know, he's an opinionated guy. Yeah. That's another guy that I've met, and I've met him several times over the years. He used to give me free tickets to go to games when he was on the brand. You know, I just had to text him and say, hey, can I get some tickets for this? And he'd go, yeah, man, you can bet that. You were telling me yesterday that he's quite mean. Not to me. Not to you. No, he was always really nice to me. What I'm saying is that when you meet people and you talk to them and you have conversations and then they have a public image that's much different, it's sometimes hard to reconcile. So I'm reading this guy. I know him. He's not like this in person. Well, because a lot of people do have a public image that they carry, and then when you really have a deep conversation with them, you see the true person. Yeah. It sounds like you've seen the true John Rocker in this case. Yeah, when I had that conversation with Benito Mussolini, I found out the real Benito Mussolini. It's a racist veneer. Yes, it's all just that. Exactly. I don't want to hang out with Steve Bannon and any of those guys. You know, Stephen Miller and I have had a lot of conversations just about anime. Right? Right? Turns out he's a big fan. He does his stuff. Yeah, well, he doesn't like it. He needs to be more white. I didn't know that he had changed his mind. Well, you know, you flip-flop here and there. So I guess I won't be angry about the – maybe you can go – I'll go tape one up there. You should. A black and white one. Oh, that would be hilarious. I'll put it over hands. Yours would stand out because everyone else has their AI caricature in color. And honestly, you are doing the smart thing because there was a story that came out on Monday this week saying that those that are putting out these AI caricatures are opening themselves up to identity theft. And I completely get it. Because you don't know where these AI sites, when they're pulling this information, there are other places where people can gather it. There are people already within Google that are worried that they have hackers now that are getting into Google Gemini as just one of these different AI sources. And they're hacking the prompts that people are receiving. They're hacking inside those databases as it is. So just be careful what information you put in to these AI job caricature details, because it could also reveal where you live, things about you. There's a lot of things about it. Stay out of my grok. Please don't go in there. You don't want to go looking in there. Eric will be back tomorrow. He is off today. It's the Von Hessler Doctrine and your open mics on the WSB radio app. Eric is off today. you have the Von Hessler Doctrineers in, Tim, Jared, and George. You're welcome to join us with your open mics on the WSB radio app. Hey, Mr. Tim Andrews, do you need your pappy? Oh, that's so cute. Yeah, deuces, bro. What did he say at the end? He said deuces, bro. Deuces, bro. Yeah, I do. It's not a pacifier, by the way, or a binky, or whatever they call it. It's going to look like that. If you're walking around these hallways with your cigarette alternative, this little chew toy you were talking about before, and you're walking around the hallways, people are going to start asking questions. What is the way that Gen Zers call them? Stim? Stim. Stimming devices. I'll call it that because that means I have a syndrome or something. Yeah, nobody can make fun of you. That's right. So if you make fun of me, I'm going to whatever HR we have if such a thing exists. I miss people solutions. People solutions. Jared was mocking my. What is it? Stimming device. Stimming device. You mean your pacifier? Yeah, my pacifier. Were you not breastfed? No. Neither was I. Yeah. What do you chew on? My fingernails constantly, and I wish I would stop, and I can't ever do it. Get braces. I chewed my fingernails to a nub, and I'd always chew. I had braces, but I just can't not do it. I wish I would stop. It cured me. It cured me. Yeah, it was the only thing that ever cured me, because one day I just realized I'm not doing it anymore. Oh, I wish. Yeah. I've gone like a week, maybe max. And it's so easy to do it, and you're driving, you don't even realize until you're done. My wife, Tina, had that same issue, George. And I know this is difficult because men don't typically paint their nails, but there is a nail polish that you could paint, and I'm sure they probably have a nude color. I paint them when I'm on vacation. Well, I mean, you're on vacation then, right? So you could be whoever you want to be. It's clear, but, you know, I know. It makes it to where when you bite them, it tastes disgusting. So it prevents you from doing it. Yeah, it reminds you you're doing it, I suppose. Yeah. Yeah, so maybe try that. Maybe I'll get jet black and I'll go look more goth. I would chew the cuticle. Yeah, you should really lean into the goth thing. Yeah. No, I chew the cuticle down. I chew the nail right to the nail. Disgusting. As soon as it's like too low to chew, then I'm chewing on the skin around the nail. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's easy to break if you just spend $3,500 on braces. Oh, I'll keep that in mind. Now, you probably had them as a kid, right? I did. Well, as a teenager. Yeah, I had him as an adult, so maybe that's what happened. Oh, okay. Yeah. Willpower. I don't know about that. If I had willpower, I wouldn't smoke. You had another open mic? Sure do. Von Hessler crew. Hey, when you get a chance, check out a song called Sing About Me from Kendrick Lamar. It's from like 2011, 2012. It's a great song. But for me, I'd say that's probably the best example of why I'm a big Kendrick Lamar fan. It's a dark story told in the song. A lot of language you kind of get through, but just listen to the story. and the way he tells it, man. I'd like to know what you guys think about it. This is Brandon in Duluth. Have a good day. Thank you, Brandon. Kendrick tells stories with his songs, doesn't he? He sure does. He's a good lyricist. His beats sound good, I guess. I've never really listened to them. My rap music, I have a lot of music from the past that I like, but toward about 2005, I just don't listen to anything after that. I like Kanye a lot. Not now, but from back in the day. Yeah, pre-Kanye. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Early Kanye, I should say. What would you call it now? You're the Conway Twitty expert, George. I don't know. Well, he's yay now. So when you're talking about Kanye, you've already covered it. Okay. The Kanye years versus the yay years. I see what you're saying. So I'm Kanye, not yay. Right. All right. Well, you can leave us open mics, and I'll check that song out. I think he's called in and defended Kendrick Lamar before, so he must be a real stan. Brandon? I've heard that song performed live a couple times I've seen Kendrick four times and don't brag you have to be in the right mindset for it and that is a lot of times when you're at a music festival or at a concert and the main headliner is going on and you're usually at a level to party and have fun sometimes with Kendrick Lamar you have to be at a level where it's like I'm paying attention and I'm listening very carefully to every lyric being said so don't drink anything and don't do anything else. Just find the right level. Yeah. That's the message. I used to have a Tom Petty level when I would go see Tom Petty. Is it similar? I would say it's probably a little bit higher at a Tom Petty show than it is at a... What do you mean by higher? I think you can go a little bit further. You can partake a little bit more in whatever it is that you're doing. You get more inebriated at a Tom Petty show than a Kendrick show. If you want to hear and understand every part of every story that he's telling. No, and I saw Dr. Dre, Eminem, ice cube in nwa at lakewood years and years ago i was sort of in the tom petty zone for that was it enjoyable oh yeah amazing show dude it was so much fun it was like 90s rap like it's so great and then m&m being there was cool too i remember in about sixth grade asking my mom if i could go to m&m 50 cent and she said no way so well that's how old probably about sixth grade dude my brother was, dude, my brother was I think 11 or 12 when the Chronic came out. And so that year for Christmas he got the CD or the tape or whatever. And I was looking through all of his stuff and I said to my dad, my brother was at school or something, I said to my dad, you know that, you ever listen to this? And he said, oh no, I never listen to that. And I said, okay, well maybe you should. And he goes, he'll be alright. Huh? You ratting your brother out? I'm not ratting my brother out. They had a clean version. Timmy's a narc. I worked at a college station. We played stuff off the clean version. Ah. You were worried about your brother. Yes, I didn't want him to hear all those nasty words he wasn't hearing at school. He turned out just fine, by the way. Smoke weed every day. Yeah. I'm sure your brother was, uh... Oh, yeah, he was rolling the chronic at 12 in eighth grade. What have we got in the news, Jared? Well, Georgia lawmakers are considering a roughly $500,000 pilot program to install and test drones at four public schools. And these drones are like police drones, essentially. They're designed to launch quickly. Are they armed? I don't think they're armed, but they travel up to 120 miles per hour, and it allows you to respond faster than a traditional police officer. So what are they talking about, a school shooting? School shooting could be the issue, but somebody could also go up to the school and be, I guess, like menacing. Yeah, menacing, watching the school closely, and then they drive off. The drone can chase after it. Please move away from the school. Please move away from the school. They've got to have some sort of deterrent. Yeah, I'm sure that it's going to have some kind of system where it's loud noise. Otherwise, you would just hear... I guess I'll stop staring into the windows. And I'm sure the kids are going to love hearing that sound while they're trying to study and knowing that somebody's doing it. They're not studying. They're going to protest. I saw a video of a dad someplace out west. He went to a school board meeting, and his son's in elementary school, and the teacher forced all the kids in the elementary school without asking the parents to go to an anti-ice rally. Now, I get all that, but don't the six-year-olds? That is asinine. Yeah, and so the dad was in there yelling, and you could watch this. And as the dad's talking to the school board, there's the typical, the Karens behind him are rolling their eyes. Anyway, so keep going. The fact that the dad was mad that his child was brought to a protest? Yeah. How is that? Typical Karen behavior. Yeah, I think that's a good idea to try to keep an eye on things before the police can arrive. Yeah, I mean, it just allows, like, with the time and age that we live in, you know obviously the school shootings happen which is horrific that they happen but at least with these drones if they do prove to be successful than if somebody does try to escape on foot yeah the drone could chase after them They just had a terrible one in Canada I know I know That one stands out, and it does say that if anybody just looks weird, they could track them for a little while. But then also – Well, I look weird. Yeah, that could be the issue. And also, what I would be concerned about from a privacy standpoint is if anybody in a school district walked to and from school. Do they still do that? Well, the elementary school that I went to, I walked back and forth. Could you imagine you're walking back and forth and it's like, no, can you get the drone? Follow little Jared or follow little Tim, follow little George. I think in 10 years we'll all be used to that sound because everything will be drone delivery. You think so? Yeah. I like that Amazon drone last week that crashed into the side of a building. Oh, yeah. This is just the beginning, too. Yeah, they have to do, it's a sad, sad world, and it's a sad thing that we have to deal with this in our society, but they have to do everything they can to protect schools just because you don't know what's going to happen. Yeah, and if it means quicker response time overall. As long as there's a deterrent. Yeah. You've got to have something, loud noise, the Havana thing they use. Havana syndrome. Yeah, I don't know what that is. What is that, make your ears bleed or something? Yeah, well, it makes you crazy. Yeah, yeah, so maybe blast. That wouldn't work then because the person doing that is already crazy. Maybe it makes it normal. Anything else for me? I guess we're going to go to a break. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Real quick here. This is the hardest word for Georgians to pronounce. What a tease. What a tease. This is according to a new study from Google Trends here. It's got all the different states here. Ponder about that while we take a break. I wonder what it could be. George Clark, a listener asked me how you know what stimming is. Sorry, how I know what? What stimming is. Because you're not into that. It's a Gen Z and younger thing. If you're on the Internet enough, you've come across. Yeah. 4chan? Actually, you know that reality show I've talked about too much already is Fish Tank? Yes. There was a lot of stimming talk on that. Okay. There was a guy that would twirl, and that was kind of his stimming thing. Okay. They bought a duck play toy that just kind of repeated itself, and you could flick them and stuff. And that was a part of the whole lore. I bought my son a little fidget spinner that he could use, and he's just like, oh, this is interesting. But he doesn't use it. That's kind of the original stimming device. Yeah, and I'm glad he doesn't use it. He'll put it down on a table and watch it spin for a minute and go, eh, I'd rather let it. He's got an attention span. Yes, he does. That's good. Good to know. Get any more open mics? He's not an iPad kid. Huh? Not an iPad kid? No, he's not an iPad kid. That's good. Yeah, I mean, we let him use a tablet, but we limit it. I saw some meltdowns on that cruise I went on. Oh, really? You could tell they're getting their iPad taken away and just screaming, crying. I really like the Carnival ad that's out there now where it talks about putting your phone down and trying to be in the moment. And I think that that's a good marketing tactic for a Carnival to do that, to say, like, hey, when you're on our cruise, you don't need your phone. Yeah, you still do, though. They probably have like a $400 Wi-Fi package. Probably, yeah. Seriously, probably. Super expensive. All right, we did get some more open mics. And after these open mics, I will tell you what this Google Trends study is. Oh, yes. The hardest word that Georgians have trouble pronouncing. I'll tell you that after these open mics. Hey, guys, I love the show. This is Dave in Buford. I just wanted to say you all are doing awesome. Appreciate that, Dave. Thank you, Dave. And then? Hey, this is Foxy in Duluth. I'll tell you what's sad. grown men needing pacifiers, chewing their fingernails, needing fingernail polish. See, this is why we've got to bring back bullying. Temperature? I don't know. Appreciate it, Fooksy. Yeah, step outside and get the temperature, Fooksy. Yeah, he's right, though. I don't know. Bullying is maybe you'd have to find another way of saying it, like gentle. Mogged. Prodding. Mogged? You get mogged now, which is kind of like owned. Oh, see, the language changes so much. I'll just stick with bullying. I like bullying. Bullying worked for you, Tim. You can call it whatever you want. I'm going to get that little stimming device, and I'm going to chew on it and keep it in my hands. See if that works. I think you get one for each day of the week. You get one little... Yeah, I think you look cooler. People still look cool smoking. Unless they're like 60. Okay. All right, so we've got to know the word. The hardest word for Georgians to pronounce is... According to Google Trends, trailer. Trailer is the hardest word, yes. Does it say why? It doesn't say why. It just tells you that information. They just call people. Trailer. That's why, like, Ohio, for example, their hardest word is curacao. What? Yeah, yeah. How is Ohio smarter than Georgia? That's a difficult word. I know. Use it in a sentence. What, trailer? No, curacao. Well, this is the country, curacao. Okay. Yeah. I'm going to move my trailer to Curacao. Exactly. It doesn't make any sense. Who doesn't know how to pronounce the word trailer? Well, apparently people in Georgia. Treller. Iowa. They say they don't know how to pronounce iron. I have a hard time with that. Iron. New York. Peonies. Right? P-E-O-N-I-E-S. Is that where your thing is curved? I think that's peonies. Peonies. Yes. A flower. No, that's a type of dog. Is it? No. Pyrenees is a type of dog. Pyrenees is a type of dog. And I think peony is a flower. Peyronies is what I was talking about. So that's a flower. What other words? Washington, D.C., they can't say Qatar. That's not a state. Well, according to Google Analytics. Anybody sure about Qatar? Nobody knows how to say Qatar. It's Qatar. If you live in Qatar, it's pronounced Qatar. Qatar was what George W. Bush called it. It's called Qatar. I love my people in Qatar. It's a great country. They have a great name. You know, and they own a lot. They never bought me an airplane, though. I should have taken advantage of that. It would be nice to have an airplane. It would be nice to have an airplane, George. Don't you? Yeah. I didn't like gold all that much either. Mississippi's word is pretty tough, guys. What's that? Hello? Ressipricity. Ressiprocity. You can't say it either. See, exactly. I belong in Mississippi. I sure do. I sure do. I don't believe that people in Georgia don't know how to say trailer. I'd like to know what they say instead. I'm trying to think. I can't even think of how you would miss that word. Trailer, troller. I live in a trailer. Maybe that's it, but that's just a long vowel sound. That's like an accent. That's not necessarily pronunciation. Trailer. It should give examples of how they mispronounce it. It does not. It does not give any... You stupid idiots in Georgia can't pronounce the word trailer. Yeah. That's basically the crux of the story there is that we cannot say trailer here in the state of Georgia. So I find it to be offensive. I feel like Google Analytics is targeting all of us Georgians. Now, when it comes to spelling, that might be something you're on to. But saying it, I don't believe that at all. I mean, it's like, trailer. Well, that's trailer. You know what you're saying. Yeah. And I know what you're saying when you say trailer. That's half the language, right? It's that we understand. I'm not buying that. I think, who did this? Google Analytics. Google Analytics. They're pretty good. Screw Google Analytics. Analyze this. Yeah. Trailer. If you can't pronounce trailer, call and leave an open mic the way you say it. How do you say trailer? Trailer, I thought. You know what I call it? Mobile home. Oh, maybe that's what it is. Hour two of the Von Hessler Doctrine begins right now. Eric off today. We'll be back tomorrow. Tim, Jared, and George Clark with you today. And it's causing a lot of commotion. that Google Analytics says that people in Georgia have a hard time pronouncing the word trailer. We're getting lots of open mics about how they say trailer. You know, Georgia's a great place to get a wonderful dill on a deal pickle. So I think trailer might be pronounced triller. Triller. Triller, that's pretty good. I like that one. This guy had something to say. This is Mark from Auburn, Georgia, and I have a hard time saying wash your sister sauce. Worcestershire. I can't say that either. Worcestershire. And then last but not least. Hey, Dr. Nairs. The way I say trailer is home. Hey, I like that. I just call it home. Home is where you hang your hat. And I call my trailer home. Thank you, Dr. Nairs. I like that one. You can leave us an open mic on the WSB radio app. How about we do some headlines? Sure. All right. So border czar Tom Holman announced that. Do you say Holman? I say Holman a lot, but it's Holman. Holman, yes. There's no L in there. But he announced that the Minnesota ice surge is going to end. So this was earlier today. He said this. Like I said, Operation Metro Surge is ending. And in the next week, we're going to deploy the officers here in detail back to their home stations or other areas of the country that are needed. Yeah, the officers have been putting people in another place. Of course, we're a rousing success here in Minneapolis, and everybody's happy with what we've done. And to all you. Tom, I don't think it's been a good success there. Well, there have been some hiccups and arousing success. Otherwise, we were able to round up a lot of people and get them out of there. Why would you pull out? If it's a good success, you wouldn't pull people out. Well, we got all the bad people out. We're still going to have people on the ground. But like I said, it was a resounding success. Although there were some hiccups. Some hiccups. I mean, two people died, Tom. Well, like I said, there were some hiccups. And we're going to still be there if they need us. but otherwise all you Antifa losers could take the barricades down from people's houses and they go where they're going I think this is a very good thing like I said, there were hiccups he has a hard time speaking he can't say trailer I don't think he can like I said, Operation Metro Surge is ending and in the next week we're going to deploy the officers here in detail or other areas of the country are needed Now, that guy could definitely not say Worcestershire. No, he probably could say Worcestershire. Worcestershire. Trailer. I could say trailer. And we're going to send all the ice agents to your trailer. Please don't send them here. We don't need any more of that. If you don't live in a mobile home, then you don't have to worry about it. Apparently not. And there will be hiccups, more hiccups. We're going to send them where they're needed. How about just give everybody a little more training? That's what needs to happen. That's what needs to happen. How about you? You sign up. $50,000. Well, in that case, would you get it right away? Yeah, I'm sure it takes a while to get to that classification. But I imagine you get it right away. Put it right in your account. Right away. $50,000 to sign up. If you don't like it, you can quit and keep the money. Join us. I think the lesson to take away from this is, number one, they rushed everything so quickly. We knew that something bad was going to happen, right? We did? I don't know. With two people? Well, I just felt like the whole operation. You've got to have a rosier outlook on things, Jared. Typically I do, but I mean this one really, really irked me because I knew that when ICE was established, the whole process of it just going into cities, rounding people up, and then unfortunately we lost two American lives because you knew there was going to be resistance. And the idea that there wasn't going to be resistance is ridiculous to me. That's what I always had trouble with. You knew that there was going to be people. Yeah, but they're paid protest. Well, even if they're paid, you knew there was going to be people that were going to resist you. And that's the hardest training that you have to learn is how do you deal with people that are resisting your cause. I could never do it because I wouldn't be able to handle them screaming. But yeah, no way. That's why it's a tough job. I made the argument that ICE officers should not only make sure their faces are uncovered, so that way there is that part of the element, right, where it's like, okay, if they're being jerks, I see what you're saying about that. I totally can see what you're saying about that. But then again, they get doxxed and then their whole family gets. I hate the idea of doing it. Well, I think they should wear a half mask. I think they're fake mustaches. Fake mustache. Yes. Mr. Potato Head. Yeah. Fake mustache and a pair of sunglasses from the 80s that fold up. Maybe a covid mask. And then the people that oppose them can't really say, you know, take off the mask because they're into them. Maybe. I mean, I just think the whole idea of masking in general was was ridiculous. But they should have paid these people more money knowing the protesters. They should have paid the ICE agents more. I think they make good money. I think the ICE agents should have been paid more money so that way they could deal with the possibility of a doxing, the possibility of people protesting left and right. What happens in those situations, I totally see where you're coming from. But in those situations, what happens is, you know, your brother works for ICE and you live 20 states away or 10 states away from where he's operating or whatever. You get doxed. You get in trouble at school or they mess with you. your job and you have nothing to do with what your hypothetical brother is doing. And it's just all sorts of harassment. It would be the same thing if you started doxing protesters and then harassing their family. I agree. I don't think the thing is taking away the masks. It's more training, less aggressive kind of nature. Yeah, you're right about that. Yeah, yeah. Just handle them with kid gloves. Yeah. And besides, the only place you see masks other than protests and on ICE soldiers, or not soldiers, but officers, is at coffee shops. specifically a chain coffee shop where you walk in there and it's like 2021 i don't understand it it's weird it's so weird it is weird you know i if i see somebody at the grocery store who's in their six you know their 50s and up whatever wearing one i totally get it but you're 22 years old and you're a barista why are you wearing not only the the you know the medical one. They have the N95 and on top of that, the other one. The real serious ones. And you're like, okay, I'm allergic to coffee. Anyway. So they're rounding it up. Does he say where they're going to send these other... Back to their homes is what it said at the end of his news conference. So they're trailers. Trailers, exactly. I think this is obviously what happened here is there's a lot of cause and effect. I think that for a lot of people that lean left or have Democratic viewpoints on ICE, you have to blame somewhat the Democrats for the creation of ICE overall because there was so much inaction on the border for so long. And I think that if there had been some reasonable action taken on immigration in general over the last 20 years, 30, 30 years. Yeah, thank you, Tim. I mean, for the longest time, there has been such a lack of action taken on the border that that created ICE in the long run. And therefore, there is some blame to put on the Democrats as well for this. Well, there's blame all over that can be handed out in a big ladle from a pot. Yes, seriously. Go back to the Biden administration during, you know, the height of COVID, the height of COVID. You know, I would ask these silly questions and I would say them on air sometimes and say, well, are the people that are coming over the border wearing masks? Because everybody here had to wear them. Are they getting vaccinated the minute they step over the border with whatever your favorite brand of COVID vaccine was? Those questions, nobody was asking. And sometimes people would stare at you like you were nuts if you asked those questions, but they were important. And also, planes filled with people that they were flying in and taking all over the country. And then you saw what happened to that is southern cities were putting them in buses and sending them to Boston. And they were going to Martha's Vineyard and dropping them off. And that's an epic troll, I suppose. But that's what made people start thinking about it. Oh, yeah, this isn't so good. Less theatrics. Less theatrics. On both sides, yeah. Well, yeah, but I'm saying specifically here when it comes to immigration enforcement, less theatrics. Less, ah, we're going to get them and beat them up. Yeah. Less of that. Keep doing your job. I mean, Barack Obama deported a lot of people. With Tom Holman. Yeah, with Tom Holman. So you can tell that he's respected and they like him on both sides. Well, that's why I think that for the people that are here, there's estimates of anywhere from 8 million to 20 million people that are undocumented. Why don't we get it? We've got a lot of trailers. We've got a lot of trailers, sir. Notice I said it correctly. You sure did. Gun stay in my trailer. You told Google wrong right there. You show that you're a Georgian that knows how to say the word trailer. They never contacted me because I don't answer robocalls and I don't answer spam emails. I don't care who they're from. Now, if you send me a cutie, a nice cutie, you know, I'm talking about a, you know, 30. Okay. Close to me in age. That's right. I mean, how old are you? You're 55, right? No, I ain't 30. I'm 38. Oh, 30. Wow. Okay. I'm 38. I was going to say, you've seen some battles, man. And I'll take in an immigrant. If they come to my house, my trailer, my home, and she knows how to cook, I'll do all the cleaning. She can do all the cooking. Incentivize these people to integrate. But you've got to be a cutie. Oh. Of course. Preferably from Cuba. Preferably from Cuba. Well, okay, I'm glad you put your requirements out there. That's very nice of you to offer a trailer. I don't hate. Are you sure that she's not going to want to go back to Cuba when she sees your trailer? She might not. I mean, I don't know. What are you trying to get at? Nothing, sir. I'm just saying. It's a double wide. I mean, it's a lovely trailer. It's a double. You've never been there, but on the outside it looks like junk, but on the inside it looks like a palace. Not all of us can afford islands. I am. Are you in the Epstein list, sir? Is that what you're saying? Well, not that particular one, but I'm on Judge Epstein's list. I bet. I bet. You sure don't think much of me, Jared. What else is in the news? Well, you know what? How about we go check with Alex? Oh, yeah. Hey, why don't we do that? Because it is that time. He's saying. You're checking to him. Well, I am from England, so I don't say it the same way as you guys do. I live in Alpharetta, by the way. This is Lee from Alpharetta. I say trailer. Because that's how we say it in London. Trailer. Trailer. I wonder if they live in trailers there. Do they have them? I would assume. Oh, yeah. You know, they're safe. They're called caravans. They probably don't have tornadoes there, so they're safe. They don't. No, because they do attract tornadoes. They have caravan culture in England. They have caravan culture. What does that mean? That's trailer. Okay. Oh, they mean they can pick up and go someplace else. Yeah. And yes, they can, just like any other trailer. Yeah, I'm trying to think of what they say now instead of the old thing that you're not allowed to say, which I guess they say Roma. Roma. Yes. Anyway. Well, that's nice. You can leave us an open mic on the WSB radio app. Well, we have some news from the AJC here. Fulton County District Attorney Fonnie Willis testified before a Georgia Senate committee hearing saying that Trump's request for $17 million in attorney fees is too much. that it would nearly wipe out their entire budget for this year. Trump, what's going on with you, man? Why doesn't she use some of that cash she and her boyfriend used to go camping? Hey! What do you mean, hey? I mean, look, they prosecuted me very unfairly. I might like to say it was very unfair the way they did everything. I mean, you know, it was, what was it, lawfare? And I would never engage in that, you know what I mean? And they went after me, and they brought me down here, and I had to do the booking, you know, and that photo became iconic, and people put it on shirts and everything. I don't want the money for myself. And what I'll do is I'll give it back to the state of Georgia and donate it to charity. But, Mr. President, you won the election. I know I did. She has to pay. She has to pay. It was all political. It was all political. She was in the White House with sleepy, weepy, creepy Joe Biden. I don't even know if he had any idea she was there. Probably not. He has no idea. He probably thought she called her Fannie or whatever and slapped her. I don't know. Probably not. He probably didn't know what was going on. He probably didn't. So she was up there meeting with... And Anthony Blinken, who really ran the White House, George knows. And so the problem is that you shouldn't have committed lawfare on me. I've got to give Rudy a little money. He lost all of his cars and his stuff. Yeah, but you've made almost $2 billion by some accounts. Jared, that is beside the point. This is about justice. So you want to take from the state of Georgia. I don't want to take from the state of Georgia. I want them to see, hey, you know what? The voters, maybe, the people that vote for her when she runs all the time for whatever her position is. District attorney. Right. Maybe they'll say, well, you know, she cost us a lot of money. Maybe we'll go with another person. Why not just say, hey, in the future, come after me again. Besides, does she want anything? Has she ever won anything? I don't know. She had another big case, you know, the year I was prosecuted that she lost. That's right. She did not beat Young Thog. You're right. That did not be more expensive than you were. She probably went and hung out with him on a camping trip to the cabin. Mr. President. I don't know. Why doesn't she just admit that, you know, if she says to me tomorrow, okay, if she calls me today or tomorrow and she says, Mr. President, my favorite president, I am sorry that I prosecuted you. I'll think about dropping the lawsuit. Otherwise, I need that money. I'm trying to figure out. I'm scratching my head. How is it that you need that money now? I mean, Georgia is still very much a swing state. I'm proving a point. Well, no, it's not going to hurt Georgia. It will hurt a county that I lost. But there are Republicans in Fulton County. Well, until we find out that all those ballots were fake and that people were voting from, you know, vacant lot. Right, George? The water main break? Well, the water main break. You know, they told me that, you know, that happens occasionally. That happens occasionally. Okay, so you just want Fonnie Willis to basically grovel at you. You want her to just say... I want her to say she's sorry. I want her to send me, you know, a nice box of cookies or something. I can tell you, Mr. President... McDonald's gift card would be nice. I can tell you, Mr. President, there are a lot of people in Fulton County that are not big fans of Fonnie Willis and how much money she's wasted already. Now, look, she keeps getting elected. But for you, though, but for you to continue going after her and retaking some of our money, hard Atlanta money there, that's difficult, man. I'll tell you this right now, Jared. If I get an apology, she can go to Cameo and hire somebody to do it for her. But I need an apology, and then, you know, you can go on with your traffic there. Okay, okay. All right, Mr. President. All right, well, at least for Fani Willis, she knows what the requirements are to potentially get this money dropped. I won, and I'm sorry. Alex Williams says there's a crash. Well, Jared, we are taking open mics today. We're getting quite a few. Yes, we are. They're all over the place. How do you leave an open mic for the Von Hessler Doctrine? You just go to the WSB radio app, and there's a little open mic button over there, and you get 30 seconds to leave all your commentary over there, like this lady did. Hey, Von Hessler team. Mm-hmm. While you're covering drones and Waymos, check out the news story about the Waymo that crashed into a crime scene. Yeah, this was wild. I hadn't heard about that. Where did this happen? This was Saturday on Cheshire Bridge Road. And you can watch the video. There are multiple police officers and two cars. And the Waymo just goes directly through the scene. This is not the first time. The person navigating it in Indonesia didn't see the accident. You know what? See, I don't believe that there's people driving. There has to be somebody. He admitted it in Congress. Who admitted it? The CEO or something. Okay, yeah. So they admitted it. Every single one? Or is it just like when they troubleshoot, right? When the car needs assistance, people in the Philippines do help. That I'm not surprised about. But when they're driving normally. He said that they do not drive the car remotely. Why don't they hire people in America to do it? That's a good question. Yeah. Now, that I would appreciate if they hired somebody in America, but the idea that somebody was driving them all the time was incredible. They do drive themselves. So this thing lost control or it didn't navigate properly and crashed into a crime scene. It didn't crash. It just drove through it. Drove through it. Oh, well, you know, hey, it had places to go. Yeah, exactly. Whoever was riding along. Why is it a controversial thing for it to drive through it? Well, because it didn't stop. It just kept going. Yeah, it was an active police scene. Uh-huh. So was traffic stopped? Traffic was stopped, yes. And it just went around? It just went right through it. Maybe it's smarter than we think. I guess so. Maybe we should all... No, don't do that. Do they go around buses? Do you think they zip around buses when buses stop? They have had issues with that. When the little stops... Yeah, when the stop sign comes out from the school bus, they've had issues, especially around Atlanta, where they're just driving past them. And that's a major fine if they do that. I drive our son to school at least four times a week. Thursdays and Fridays, I get to sleep in one or two days. But anyway, every single day I get behind a school bus and I'm paying attention. I know what to do. You know, it's coming at you or whether it's going, you know, in front of you. And I do the right thing. But people will zip around them. And they're not Waymos. They're real people. Yeah. And they're jerks. I feel so bad for, number one, where do you need to be? Exactly. And the school bus driver is just trying to safely make sure the kids get to and from school. Yeah. And there's a big stop sign and a flashing red light telling you that you need to stop. Yeah. People are just, I mean, they're cold-blooded. I mean, it's pain in the ass, but it's like, I know that, and I'm sure in Tucker you guys have this, but any time there's a crosswalk, right, and you hit the little button to make the lights go red. Right in the middle of town, there's a crosswalk going to the high school, so you have to be very careful and pay attention to driving through it. Well, there seems to be a competition. I don't know if it's happening in Tucker, but at least where I am. A competition to what? On the west side, there's a competition where if, like, a driver sees you coming up and they know you're about to push the button, they like to speed up and go as fast as they can to avoid the blinking red lights. If I see somebody walking up to do that, I'll slow down immediately. That's the right thing to do. You should apply that to the school buses out there, too. But then again, I also use my turn signal. Wow. Okay, now you're a rare breed there. Yeah. Well, yeah, any city, a lot of people don't use them. Yeah, they do not use them. You just have to guess what people are doing, and that's why they tell you to drive defensively all the time. It's because I drive offensively. No, I used to. I used to be a real jerk. Now I just, and again, it's because I have a kid and, you know, you're driving in a car with a kid. You can't be the jerk that I used to be. Yeah, you can't yell at people. And because you definitely can't do that because when, but I don't do that even when he's not in a car. It's just, I've just gotten into the practice of, like Eric talks about, you know, hey, obviously you need to get there before I do. And, you know, it's important for you to get through that red light. Go on ahead. I have nothing to do with it. No more fingers, the middle finger, because you never know who's driving the other car. Right. Right. I mean, I've seen people throw the dash. I'll do it. Exactly. So they don't see you. Yes. I mean, I've seen on 285 one time, I saw somebody throw a baseball at another car. Really? I flicked him off. And I'm like, that is insane. I mean, I was behind him. I'm like, I'm going all the way over to the right. I don't care. Point of order. Also, the right lane's going. Point of order. Georgia versus the north. Y'all can't say trailer right. I don't believe that. I think however you say trailer in Georgia is the correct way. But you said something that I didn't grow up saying. I said flip. and down here they say flick. What do you say? Flip off. Yeah, so it's flip off. I'm just correcting you. Flip off? If I did, I didn't say anything. No, it's a thing. I noticed it when I moved to Georgia years ago. They say flick down here. I flicked them off. I flicked them the bird. I think I go both ways on the flip and flip. I think I do too. Where do you stay at? 404. Oh, leave those open mics. No, no, no. Well, what I like to do when I'm in my trailer is flick people off. Sometimes you need to get it out, though. Yeah, that's true. A little enraged. Well, you know, take it home with you. You don't have to get – being in a car with a lot of traffic or not a lot of traffic, just being in a car is not the place to get enraged. Well, I know that any time my dad comes down and he hangs out with me from Woodstock – Oh, does he complain about the ride? Well, when he rides with me, he's like, you are so aggressive. And I'm like, he's in his 60s now. And I'm like, you have to be sometimes. You have to be kind, obviously defensive, aware of your surroundings, not speeding up when people are slowing down. But if you don't take the opportunity to take the turn when it's offered to you or if somebody's opening up a lane for you, then you've got to go in the city. You've got to go for it. You can't just keep waiting. Otherwise, you'll wait a long time. When I moved here, I was still in my nervous driver phase because where I grew up and where I was working before I moved here, there was one highway, maybe two. You got on interstates if you traveled around. I mean, I was used to it. But moving down here, I was not at all prepared. I still remember the first day as I was coming in to Atlanta, the first time I ever came to the city. I was driving south on 85, and I could see Stone Mountain. So I'm like, oh, yeah, Stone Mountain, that is so cool. Jake the Snake Roberts, big boss man. Those are the things that are going through me. Sure. Stone Mountain. And then I got to 285 because my friends lived off Roswell Road. So you're coming down, you take 285 West, and you go over to Roswell. That freaked me out because there were, what, six lanes of traffic on there? and it was a busy time because I had left at a certain time. I got here during rush hour, and it really freaked me out. I was like, I can't move here. I can't drive in. And then I was working off of Roswell Road, and sometimes I would have to go to work at 5. I was working at an Applebee's or something, and it would take me forever, and I would just get frustrated. So I had to learn how to do it. Yeah, you've got to learn how to deal with that ATL traffic. Even my granddad, after I moved here a couple of years, he goes, How do you get around, Timothy? I say, how do you get around that, what do they call it, Spaghetti Junction? That looks scary. I wouldn't want to drive. I'm like, oh, it is scary. It is scary, Grandpa. Did you take him through it, at least? No, he never came here. But the other question he asked me, because they had CNN, so he would watch the news. He said, this is going back to the 90s again, he said, well, a lot of sports guys down there were going to some strip club called the Gold Club. Did you ever go there? And I laughed. I said, yes, I got thrown out of there for not spending enough money. Was he proud of you? No, he laughed. He said, oh, you went in there one time. I said, yeah, I went in there. Too expensive. I prefer flashers. Well, it's my budget. It's a shame that he didn't get a chance to come down and see you in your element, because I say that you been thriving in the ATL ever since you came down He was a Braves fan I tried for a long time They couldn have driven here but I tried for a long time before he passed away I said you should come down We go to a Braves game I can watch it on TV Yeah, but he was in his late 70s, early 80s. It's tough to travel when you get to that age. It's everything, mobility. I know even in my family currently, as I've got aging parents right now, where one side of the family is... Aging? Aren't they in their 60s? Well, so my side of the family is in their 60s, but my in-laws are in their 70s. Oh, okay. Tina's parents. Yeah, they're my parents, too. I mean, you know, through marriage, they're in-laws. Because you have one of those marriages that's going to work, and so you guys all like each other? Yes, and we've also been together for over 10 years, and you count, like, the engagement. So they have a hard time driving. They're not having a hard time driving yet, but you can tell that mobility and stuff is becoming a little more difficult, and we're having to be mindful about family trips and stuff, what we can do, what we can't do. It's just interesting. It's interesting to watch that process happen. And I hope that travel does... They have indoor playgrounds for kids. They should make indoor playgrounds for seniors. I love that idea. Trampolines. Any way to get active, have the hip replacement area. So you could play and live and play. I don't know where the hell you brought that up. Live, work, play, and surgery. That is something that Alex Williams lives for. Isn't that right, Alex? You're saying it's bumper to bumper on... Yes, Jared, I'll do it if I remember. I'm here for you. I'm your backstop. In studio, confusion over who's supposed to do the traffic tosses. Listen, I have... Have you ever done that in traffic? Have I done what? Never mind. I'd have to ask Alex. You toss two, not in. Well, you know what? Alex is the expert. He knows all of it. Don't bring him into it. He'll get in trouble. We don't want to embarrass him. You said that we had some more. Earlier in the show, we were talking about, well, Jared did a story about the Google Analytics saying that every state has a word that is difficult for their people to pronounce. And George's was trailer, which I find to be BS. Yes. Well, a lot of people have things to say about it, but they're still leaving their open mics. Trailer ain't pertinence hard to say as the word oil or poll. This is Chad Down here in Sonoa, Georgia 64 degrees Y'all have a good one Thank you, Chad Now he's right There's a lot of words that are very different Down here, the way they're pronounced And I will tell you later, not right now But later on when you're at home And you have YouTube open Look for Red Fox talking about Georgia Red Fox, if you don't know who that is Do you know who Red Fox is? I don't He is most famous for playing Fred Sanford on Sanford and Son. Okay. Which was a sitcom that I grew up watching in reruns and actually watched it on real TV. But he was a very, very funny stand-up comedian. He had party albums. They called them party albums. It was LPs, and you put it on, and they're really dirty. And this is the 60s and 70s, you know, really filthy jokes. But he has this whole thing of how words, and he goes, I was just down in the South. He goes, and they say things different. And I'm going to leave it at that, because you have to find it for yourself. Okay, okay. But they're one-syllable words. Trailer is not a word that's difficult for people. Do you have another one? We do. This is regarding flipping off somebody or flicking off somebody. Well, you say when I'm in my trailer, I flip people off, but I flick a bugger off. See? That guy is absolutely right. That's pretty logical. That makes sense. Now, I feel like I've learned something. And based on the accent, I would assume he's from Georgia. What, George? No, I was just pondering on what he said. Okay, keep pondering. You'll get it eventually. You're very welcome. Do we have time for one more story? We do. Another Atlanta story here. A metro Atlanta woman pled guilty to assault after throwing hot coffee on a McDonald's manager in Georgia. She's from Marietta. Her name is Koshara, and she's from Marietta, but the incident actually happened up in Michigan. Okay. And apparently the dispute arose over slow service, and she was asking for a refund. And the McDonald's manager didn't offer that. And so, therefore, she decided, I'm going to throw this coffee on you. Yeah, usually in that situation, you're not going to get a refund and you should just be happy you got your coffee. Now she had to wait in line again. I hope when she went back to the drive-thru to get the replacement cup, she didn't have to wait that long. I'll do it. What's that? My whole thing is, what is with McDonald's and coffee? Stop throwing coffee on people. I feel like we hear stories about this every year. Yeah, we do, and you've been hearing him for a long time. Just go someplace else and get your coffee or make it at home. That way you can throw it on yourself if you're mad. Alex Williams is checking the ride. It's hour three of the Von Hessler Doctrine. Eric will be back tomorrow. Bloody nose alert. That's right. The dam has burst, and Jared's dry, chapped nose is now leaking. I know. I was so mad. I got a bleeding nose. So mad, literally in the middle of Christina's weather there. My nose just felt like a trip. She has that effect. It's like scanners. I guess so. She's like, I'm going to make him suffer today. I had gotten like a little baby one in the shower earlier today and didn't need any tissues. Like a little baby nosebleed. Oh, okay. Not like a massive gusher. And then I'm like, yeah, it's probably too good to be true. And then right before we come on the air here, big old nosebleed. I got to get this procedure on my nose. What are they going to do? What are they going to do? Stick a hot poker in there? You could do it yourself. I could. You're right. It could save some money. Let's do it on air. Yeah, do it on air. Oh, we'll get you to the whole stuff. Listen, you want to get people to watch us on the WSB Plus camera feed? Yeah. I will happily do that. Have the doctor come in here, get the hot poker all lit, and cauterize your nose. I, at this point, I'm so... Won't they kill all the nose hairs, and then you won't have nose hairs anymore? I have not heard that before, but I would not mind it, because my nose hairs... You have to have nose hairs, Jared. Well, what's so important... Well, what's so disgusting is, and I'm probably giving way too much information... That's okay. This nose talk here on the Von Hester Doctrine is that because I get these massive nosebleeds, in order to prevent them, my nose hairs are insanely thick and insanely long. And any time I trim them, I get like a nosebleed. Do you go up in there with the trimmer? Oh, yeah. I do. You can't do that because it gets on the side of your nose and it will aggravate your nose. So stop doing that. Listen, you don't need to have vanity in your nostrils. I don't want to be walking around with a big old bush hanging from my nose. That's the last thing. Pluck the protruders. I guess so. No, don't pluck them. Really? No, you could die that way. What? Google it. Okay. Ask whatever AI of your choice. Well, no, you're not supposed to pluck your nose hairs out. Okay. Well, noted. You know, sometimes you can't help. I've gotten lucky so far. You have, yes. I didn't know you could die from that. I'll trim. Well, I want you to, you know, I want you to prove that I'm wrong or right. Will do. Ask your favorite AI if that's an old wives' tale. But don't rip your nose hairs out. And if you're going to shave them, just shave the ones that hang out. All right. Maybe you should have a better diet. Maybe so, RFK Jr. Yes, RFK Jr. Haven't heard from you in a while. Well, I keep under the radar. You're getting along with Trump either? I like him, I guess. But I got my food pyramid changed. And the food pyramid is now better than it was. It's like that old episode of South Park where they just flipped it. They sure did. It is almost exactly like that episode of South Park from, I don't know, five years ago. Yeah, they did completely flip it. Yes. Eat a lot of meat and fat and very little grain, and you'll be a lot better than you were before while Jared's nose is bleeding. Speaking of, we have some RFK stories, but the reason we're getting into them while Jared's fixing his nose is RFK Jr. was here in 2024, wasn't he? Yes. He was here. What was he doing? He did like a meet and greet in the live lounge, right? That's right, yeah. Is that something Shelly organized? That is correct. Shelly did organize that. And you came in to meet him? I did with my mother. Your mother wanted to meet him. Were you big fans? Both of us wanted to meet RFK Jr. He was an interesting guy. I wanted to meet him, too, but nobody told me about it. What? You missed it? You weren't there? I wasn't there. I was here when Eric interviewed him on the air live. That was cool. That was over the phone. Yes, that was over the phone. Yes, not in the studio. But you came in to meet him. He was an interesting person running for president at the time and, you know, eventually joined Trump's team. But you had an interesting encounter with him. Now, be delicate with this. Yeah. You followed him into the bathroom. I had to go to the restroom, too, so it wasn't. Did you follow him or did you know he was in there when you walked in or did you just walk in and see him? Followed him into the restroom, having to go to the restroom as well. It wasn't full creep mode. You knew he was in there. Correct. You're not wrong about that. So you followed him in there. I followed him in. And creeped him out. We urinated. I'm assuming that's what you did. You don't need to involve all that. Give me all the details. So you didn't bother him while he was going. Yeah, nobody did number two or anything like that. No, no, no. We don't have to. He wasn't throwing up. He wasn't shaving his legs. No, what I'm saying is you didn't bother him while he was going to the bathroom. We completed our business. Okay. That's all you had to say. And then we were at the sink. Uh-huh. Washing your hands. Washing our hands. Did you have the one with the knobs, or did you have the automatic one? I was on the left side, so whichever. Yeah, that's the one with the knobs. That's the good one. I have the knobs. Yeah, I like the one with the knobs. I don't like these automatic sinks, paper towel dispensers, because I know better than the robot does. Oh, the paper towel dispensers. Don't get me started on that one. It gives you, like, the smallest little sheet, and you're like, that's not going to dry my hands. See, the people that clean the bathrooms know that, and that's why they leave that roll there. All right, so setting the scene, Jared, while you were out getting another hanky. or a nose plug. George follows them into the bathroom. They do their business. They're washing their hands. You have the great opportunity. You're alone in a bathroom with RFK Jr. He didn't have any dead animals with him. Correct. Nobody was doing any illicit drugs. Well, he stopped doing all that years ago. So what happens? I asked him a question. I said, you know, can I ask you a question about your uncle? Yes. And I asked him a controversial question. Now, you asked him, you said, were you looking at him in the assassination? Hang on, hang on, hang on. I need you to slow down. All right. And explain it to me. Were you looking into the mirror or were you looking into his eyes? One of those where I think I was kind of looking towards him, maybe not right directly at him. Was he giving off a I don't want this guy to talk to me vibe? Were you giving off that? No, I wouldn't say that. Jack Black and Bob Roberts. You ever see that movie Bob Roberts? No. I highly recommend it with Tim Robbins. But if you've seen it, you know what I'm talking about. Jack Black plays this guy who's obsessed with Tim Robbins' political candidate character. And he's just staring at him. So I think you're probably giving up, though. Travis Bickle, maybe. A little bit. You know, me and my mother had taken pictures and kind of shaken hands. Okay, so you'd already met him. Yeah, it was a little bit of a meet-and-greet scenario before we ventured into the bathroom together. Okay. And then, like I said. So you said, can I ask you a question about your uncle's assassination? Yeah. And I asked my question. And he went, yeah, go ahead. Yeah, he said yes. and he kind of tensed up. Oh, God, I got one of these weirdos. I don't know if he thought I was trying to get information out of him or if he thought I was some OPSEC guy trying to find out what he would say. No, what he thought was, I'm trying to go to the bathroom and this young dude that I just shook hands with and took a picture with followed me to the bathroom to ask him this question. So you asked him an uncomfortable question. I had to go to the restroom as well. Well, that's okay. There's a lot of him here where he might not have been. I was surprised I was able to go in there with them honestly, he had some security with them but they let me go right there there wasn't a huge crowd for that event I remember, and it was like really really tight knit, like WSBC it was a very limited event, 40 max it was a hang, not a meet and greet my takeaway from it, and George, I mean, you tell me what you think because you were there with your mom, I brought my family too, and I thought he was a little cold with us, like to be honest with you he was a little annoyed to be there You rubes can't even say the word trailer. He was in the middle of the full court press thing. Yeah, all the anti-RFK stuff was coming out. He was leaving here to go to something else, had just done something else before he came. And he was late, too. That was the other thing. Well, I was eating a bear. He was in the press run, for sure. Yes. So you ask him this uncomfortable question, which is in the conspiratorial circles, having to do. It's one of the theories as to why JFK was assassinated, which we will skip over. The fact that we're skipping over it, you might have an idea of what we're talking about. Maybe. I was going to leave it where I left it, but go ahead. So you ask him the question, and what does he say? He said, no, it had much more to do with Vietnam. See, I'd never really heard that. That was his answer. Did he elaborate or run away like I would have? Well, I asked him, so do you think that the people that asked the question I asked are more kooky? And he said, yeah, you know, I do. I think it's more about Vietnam. I think it's more about Vietnam based on who I hang out with and get money from. He didn't say that. No, he didn't elaborate. Of course he didn't elaborate. You were in a bathroom. Well, I thought that was kind of a whack answer. Yeah. And I would have, you know, I'd like to ask more questions, but I knew that my time was up. Yeah, your time. You got one question in the bathroom with a presidential candidate who's also a Kennedy. Yeah. But that was a cool moment. Probably could have asked Teddy, but he's dead. I would have asked him questions, too. I might have asked him a different question, but the same, if that makes any sense. Because I'm always curious about that. Along the same lines? Because one of the things that they said before the election was, well, you vote for us, we're going to release all these files. Well, guess what? That never happened. The JFK files. Yes, exactly. That never happened. And we know why that doesn't happen. is because people who work for agencies now go in there, and they open it up, and they look at it, and immediately when they do that, it becomes top secret again, and they can't release them. Correct. And I think that is by design. We'll never know. Good for you for keeping that story in your quiver as long as you did there, George. It's difficult to hold on to. Well, I was a little worried that what I did might have been round upon. Well, it's my fault. You told me, and then I was laughing, and Eric asked me what I was laughing at, and I told him. It is a funny story. I mean, I'm not going to lie. Take some you-know-what to ask somebody that, especially a presidential candidate, when you're going to be controversial in a bathroom like that. You say that I'm reading into his reaction about just him tensing up, but I thought there was some real kind of answers within his reaction. I think he was tense because you were talking to him about it. So he was creeping him out? Yeah, you were creeping him out. That's okay, though. It happens sometimes. Steady is important. Speaking of creepy. Hey! No, I'm just kidding. Alex Williams is taking a look at you. Jared, get your nose tampon in. Is it slowing down? Is it bleeding over? It definitely is slowing down. I tried to get one of those. You're trying to get what? You know you have a little emergency napkin stored everywhere. Well, you know what? We don't have any more back here. I can't look at you. I know. I'm a creature right now. I'm sure everybody watching on WSP Plus is like, what in the world? I can't look at you. You have that thing in your nose. Well, it was so difficult because we have all of these plastic forks, the pack, right? Where you get the plastic fork, the plastic spoon, the plastic knife, and you get the tiniest little napkin in there. And I tried that tiny little napkin to clog my nose, and sure enough, it was gushing out the sides of my nose. So thankfully, I have got more tissues, and I'm good to go. I am good to go. Well, that's good. We were talking about George's RFK encounter, the awkward RFK encounter in the bathroom. No offense, George. Yeah, it could have been way more awkward. Yeah, I know you could have. I can believe that. You don't have to convince me. But he is in the news. Yes, he is. Apparently, he was on Theo Vaughn's podcast, and he said this. You know what? I said this when we came in, and I said, I don't care what happens. I'm going to a meeting every day. And I said, I'm not scared of a germ. You know, I used to snort cocaine off of toilet seats. I know this disease will kill me Right if I don't If I don't treat it Which means for me going to meetings Every day It's It's just bad for my life Well that's admirable And that he committed to it And that he went through recovery And worked the program He's talking about COVID there So trying to keep going to meetings Through all that Which I'm sure was a challenge For anybody that's in recovery I imagine it was they probably did a lot of them virtually. True. But even then, you know, you're not around people. You're not having that experience of being in a room with people and, you know, having a community. Social stuff. I did a lot of coke off of a toilet. I mean, usually people did them on the, what do they call, the back of the toilet, you know, the tank, the top of the tank. That's what the rumors are, right? No, I didn't, but I knew people in college. I would go to these parties when I was in college. There was booze, and then the people who would go into the one room to smoke. And then every once in a while, the older people at the party would all go into the bathroom. And one time I said, why are they all going in the bathroom together? And this guy, we called him GQ. I don't even remember. I guess. It was the way he dressed. Oh, okay. Everybody called him GQ. He was a frat guy. That was his nickname. And I don't even remember his real name, but he goes, ah, you don't want to go in there. I'm like, why don't you don't want to go in there? You don't want any of that. And I found out what they were doing. They were just going there and doing coke, but not off of the seat. So he must have been in a bathroom where they have one of those advanced toilets that doesn't have the tank. One of those ones where it just has the buttons on the wall, right, where it's got the two and the one. Yeah, I don't touch any buttons in a bathroom. I use my foot. Oh, really? You're one of those people? Yeah, I'm not touching that thing. Oh, I touch the button? No, the handle. The two and the one for one? I'm not touching the handle. You touch the handle? Not the handle, but the button I touched. No, if there's a button and they don't have the courtesy of a handle, I just leave. I feel like it's too, but here's the issue that I have. I think the buttons, at least in the bathrooms that I've been, are about eye level. There's a little bit lower than eye level, so you reach your leg all the way up to eye level like that? No, no, no. I'm saying if it has a handle, I use my foot. If it has the button, I ignore it. I'm not, no. If you're going to have the button, then go automatic flush. Because I'm not touching it. You touch it and then you wash your hands. What if you don't have time to wash your hands? Like my son said to me the other day. You make it some residual, too. Nah, nah, nah. Like my son said to me the other day, he said, did you wash your hands? He goes, no, when you pee, you don't have to wash your hands. I said, that's sound logic. That is not appropriate. Have to do some giveaways? We sure do. Let's give away a little James Taylor. I even wrote it on here, Jared. Hall of Famer. That's right. So, hey, you can win two tickets to see James Taylor on Thursday, September 17th at Synovus Bank Amphitheater at Chastain Park. Just be calling number 10 to 404-872-0750. Tickets are on sale at Ticketmaster.com. Alex Williams is checking... All right, do we have a winner to congratulate? We sure do. It's Shannon Epps from Monroe, Georgia, who won a pair of tickets to see James Taylor Thursday, September 17th at Synovus Bank Amphitheater at Chastain Park. Tickets are on sale at Ticketmaster.com, and we'll have, I believe, one more shot to win tomorrow. That's right, and we have more open mics. People trying to help me here, Tim. Hey, Jared, if you take my Super Greens and Essential Source, it'll stop your nosebleed. I guess that was a doctor. That's supposed to be Dr. Joe. I guess so, Tim. Tim, your job is perfectly safe with that impersonation. It sounded so good I thought it was AI. Just kidding. It was funny. Going back to the word trailer being the hardest word for Georgians to say, according to Google Analytics. This guy wants to weigh in on that. It was Sean from Auburn. And as far as words that present potential minefields in the elocution department, one comes to mind that applies to a great deal of our state. and that would be the word rural r-u-r-a-l rural y'all take care thanks absolutely i have a hard time with that word rural rural rural i've had a hard time with my r's my whole life rural really uh-huh it was funny because gilbert my son the other day well it might have been a month ago i don't know everything just sort of bleeds together he goes i have a hard time saying our daddy and i go so do i anyway wow just certain words a good bonding moment rural rural it's a lazy word you have to really force your lip up rural yeah you do uh-huh but the guy said elocution quite well he did he did the guy knows uh he knows his words yes how's your nose is it better uh i think it's almost stopped i took dr joe's super greens i didn't take dr joe's super greens but uh you know what next time i'll consider it all right i knew again earlier today I was taking a shower before coming in for the show, and I had like a little mini baby nosebleed. Yeah. And I'm like, I think I got it all out of my system then. Because there's nothing worse when you look down and you see blood in the shower. You're like, okay, that's kind of gross. Well, I'm glad that it's healed up. And I think now, I think we're basically done with it. So you only have to look at me with my little nose pond in for so long. Oh, I don't mind your nose pond. You know, I know you have a story you want to get to, but I do want to say that I have to congratulate Jake Tapper from CNN. and he's finally back in the studio instead of standing outside of Savannah Guthrie's mom's house, where he's been all week until today. I find that with a lot of these stories, now I get it if there's a hurricane or there was a disaster or something happened in a city, you want to have everybody there. But being at this Savannah Guthrie's mom's house, I don't know why the media all have to be parked there. What are you going to talk about until she is found or until they pay the ransom or whatever? We don't know what's going on in that case, but every time I look up, there's a reporter standing out there, and you see the cactus, the agave cactus outside of her, and they found some gloves. But do they really need to go and talk about it all day long? Yeah, it's like as if they... They're not helping. Obviously, it's a huge story, and I can understand the human interest element of it, but being out there doesn't make sense. It's as if they think that the crook who did this is just going to walk right by the newsroom. Sorry, here she is. Yeah, you know, my bad. I shouldn't have done it. You know, you don't have to give me the Bitcoin. Here she is. I'll just leave. I'll go home. I didn't mean to. I don't need to do that. Yeah, you're right. I just, you know, she's over here. She's tied up in my trunk. But she's okay. She's fine. I got her meds. You know, I went and found meds. No, it's a terrible story. Anybody who had a, you know, your parent gets, you can't even think about something like that. Right. Your parent being abducted. It feels like we're extras in a movie. And this is like the newsreel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a snapshot in the movie. But, you know, and obviously Savannah Guthrie is a media person. She does NBC News and The Today Show, right? That's correct. And it was one of those rare cases where when it first happened, I thought, okay, what is the president going to say? Because he doesn't like her. You know, they've had confrontations. And so I was pleasantly surprised that he was nice about it and he said he called her and, you know, we got to get to the bottom of this. but overall you know it's just a terrible story and you got to wonder and think about what is going through you know savannah guthrie and her siblings and their whole family uh and this this poor lady just being grabbed out of her house you know accusations that they're in on it it's you're gonna have that nutty stuff of course you know those are the conspiracy nuts one of the it didn't even take 24 hours and the first thing is well i wonder if it has anything to do with the epstein list yeah i saw that her mom was on the epstein right right or i guess like so savannah Guthrie had interviewed, I saw this video. She interviewed Jeffrey Epstein. But there was, I guess, an interview that she did with her fellow Today Show host, and I saw this on Reel, so I'm going off memory here, where she talked to some of the ladies, the victims from the Epstein Island, and they were starting to draw conclusions that it might be from that. I know. It has nothing to do with that. We don't know what it has to do with. It could be anything. And to speculate that it has something to do with Epstein is ridiculous. It has turned into this very much like everyone's become armchair detectives. Uh-huh. Well, that's been around for a long time, but you're right. And they're ratting out their neighbors now. They're bringing up the family members. There were thousands of hits on the hotline. Yeah, and it's like, guys, my whole thing is you can't imagine, number one, what that family's going through. And then just to treat it like it's a sport like that and say, I don't know, the Hendersons down the street. They've been acting awfully weird. They didn't take their trash down on Tuesday. What's crazy to me is that she's not the only person who lives in that neighborhood. She had a ring door camera or a Nest camera, and they had to wait, what, a week to get access to it because they didn't have the login. And then don't the other people, everybody has that stuff. Why don't the people across the street have it? Why don't they have cameras focused on the street where they can see? Because obviously the person didn't go through the, not the woods, but they didn't walk through the desert. Yeah, they definitely came to the neighborhood, and hopefully they are looking at more and more of those different cameras that are on doors. The latest I've read is that there's a guy that's writing into TMZ and telling them that he knows who took her, and he just wants one Bitcoin to tell them who took her. Well, have they found this person? Because they need to find this person. No, he keeps writing into TMZ and saying, you know, the longer you wait, the longer it gets, you know, the more dangerous the situation can be. You should give me my Bitcoin so I can tell you. And I need the Bitcoin because I'm going to be on the lam because I'm going to be a national rat. And I'm going to need to lay low if I do tell you. That's ridiculous. Now, you get the one Bitcoin. Well, also, he wants it now because it keeps going down. Right. The other day, Greg brought up a stock that he bought. What did he buy? He bought Reddit stock. And after he was talking about that on the show, I said, I'll buy into it. I bought a fraction of it. And it immediately went down. That's me with gambling, with stock purchases. I'm not good with that. It's a lesson well learned there. You know what? You put it in your mattress, it stays in your mattress. I played craps for the first time on the cruise. Lost 70 bucks, but I did get quite a few rolls. I think I made some other people money. Oh, that's good. Good for them. I got a round of applause after I threw my final seven or whatever. It's good to make other people happy, right? Exactly. So you lost all your money? I lost 70 bucks over the whole week. Oh, okay. Yeah, but at the craps table, I was betting the pass, and that means you get to roll longer. I don't even know exactly how it works, but I know I made some people money. Yeah, good. Except for yourself. You ever play roulette? I played a little roulette, but that one seems, you know, you lose your money pretty quickly in that one. You can't. I spend a lot of time on the table. If you're betting red and black and not focusing on the numbers and stuff like that, you have a good chance to make some money. No, I lost money. Okay. Blackjack lost money. All right, so George and I are in the same place. Exactly. I'm telling you, the game to play, if you want to win money, is Buffalo. I love that game. Buffalo. Buffalo. Yeah, it's a lot. You ever play War? I have not played War. I love that some casinos have War, which is the most basic. It's War, the game you played as a kid. Really, where you just flip the card over and win whichever card's higher? You have a card, they have a card. Which one's higher wins? And if you have the tie, you do the three cards and you flip it over. Oh, yeah. And you can double down while you're doing that. That's cool. I won a lot of money in Canada doing that, which ended up not being a lot of money because it was Canada. Alex Williams says there is a... So I got a message on social media from Dan, who was following up on what had happened at Savannah Guthrie's mom's house. What was going on is she wasn't paying the service to save the data. Right. So I wasn't aware of that. And the cameras do record everything, so Google went through the servers and found the video and gave it to the FBI. So thank you to Google for doing that. That's how they were able to get that shot of that guy in the ski map. It's tremendous that for those that are not subscribers to it, that they have a database that can pull through all those different cameras and find it. Because I'm sure that it's probably a much bigger bucket, if that makes sense. Oh, yeah, especially with the millions and millions of people that have them. Right, right. And it's not like it just identifies, oh, this is Nancy Guthrie. It's like it's probably just an unidentified camera. See, we need data centers. Yeah, there we go. Give up your water. The data center, save the day there. I like Elon's idea of putting the satellites in the sky and having them be the data centers. Not in the sky, but orbiting the Earth. Yeah, it's not a bad idea. And that way they're solar powered. You're not draining everybody's water. Who knows if that's plausible. He's been saying a lot lately. I hope he's okay. Well, that's what he does. Yeah. He's talking about a catapult to the moon. That's another thing. A catapult, where are you going to put that? Good question. I have no idea. You would need a very long arm. Yes, it would. Do we have time for a story? Well, I can't believe we haven't brought this up yet, but with tomorrow being Galentine's Day for the ladies. You mean February the 13th? Palentine's Day for the guys. But yeah, tomorrow. Friday the 13th. You nervous, sir? How come we don't have the music? The music? Well, I mean, I figured I'm not superstitious about it. Are you superstitious about it? Not at all. But whenever a radio person talks about Friday the 13th, they have to play the theme from the movie. I don't know. There's a reason. Thank you, George. There's a reason. I think something happened, I don't know, 600 years ago on Friday the 13th, which makes it a bad luck day. But, no, no, no. Well, people are saying, over at USA Today at least. People. People. They saying that your love is not going to be viewed as lucky In fact it going to be unlucky this Valentine Day because Friday the 13th is right before Valentine Day You know this has happened before It has. Yes, it has. Several times. But. But what? But this time, you know, it could be really, really unlucky. And if you end up having a bad date, you can blame it on being Friday the 13th. Makes it easy. You can't blame the calendar for your bad day. It's not a bad problem. For anybody that's single out there, and you're like, yeah, that date didn't go well. You know what you do if you're single on Friday the 13th? You watch all of the Friday the 13th movies. Call in sick. It's what I'm going to do. I'm just kidding. I'm not doing that. Not a bad idea. There are tattoo deals, by the way. If you want to get a flash tattoo for $13 for Friday the 13th, you can get even the Friday the 13th theme there. You can get the theme tattooed on your body? Yes. Believe it or not. All the notes? I guess not all the notes there, but I guess the logo. How about that? That's a better way of describing it. Why did you bring that up? Is this happening here? Well, yes, it's happening here in Atlanta. It's happening in New York, Dallas. There's all kinds of cities that are offering. Check your local tattoo parlor. Friday the 13th logos for this Friday the 13th. I've always wanted to have the Jason Voorhees hockey mask on my body, and I'm going to work on that. Thank you for the tip, Jared. Hey, Alex Williams is... It is now hour four of the Von Hessler Doctor, and Hour 4 of the Von Hustler Doctrine begins right now. And joining us is another doctrinaire, Greg Ross. Hello, Greg. Hello, Tim. Now, you weren't able to play your sound effect because you're not in your home location. I'm home. I'm just downstairs in the bedroom. It's kind of reversed. Most people would assume the bedrooms are upstairs. Yeah, that confuses me. Where I live, the kitchen and the living room are upstairs and the bedroom is downstairs. When you enter your apartment, do you go into the bedroom, or do you enter upstairs and then have to go down? No, when you enter, you enter into a small vestibule, and there's a staircase right in front of you. So there's a place to hang up your coats and take off your shoes, and then you go upstairs, one set of stairs, and then that brings you to the bedroom level, and then you go up another set of stairs to take you to the living room. Oh, so it's three levels. Yeah, wow. Well, the first level is not, again, it's nothing to write home about. It's a very small space. Speaking of home, one of our listeners calls his trailer his home. And I don't know if you've been listening to the show today, but we talked about this in the first hour, and we've been getting a lot of open mics. Google Analytics did this study and determined that the hardest word for Georgians to pronounce is the word trailer. So are you able to say the word trailer? Trailer? Yeah. Okay, pretty good. And I dispute it because that's not a difficult word to say, but we've been getting a lot of open mics. Some of the examples are like Massachusetts. They can't say Massachusetts. Iowa is iron. What was New York's? Jared can't say Yamamoto. That's right. When I hear the promos for the nightcap, it sounds like you're leaving some letters out of your name. Yamamoto. Yamamoto. Yamamoto. Yamamoto. You say Yamamoto. No, I do not. I say Yamamoto. I will bring it up. No, what is New York's though? New York is, is it peony, right? That's the flower. Oh, peony, yeah. Peony, yeah. And now we have a lot of people that are weighing in on that. Hey, Dr. Nair, that analytics thing y'all was all referencing, that's all jacked up, bro. Everybody can say trailer. I mean, it's right there in the word. Trailer. Trailer. Now, whether or not it's a double wide or single wide, that might be a little confusing. It's nice down here on the creek, about 531. I like that one. You definitely got to have the double Y. You got another one? Hi, this is David in Noonan, Georgia. He's a fly. And a word that's hard to say is everybody. Everybody. Why is that difficult to say? Greg, can you say everybody? Everybody. Why don't you just say y'all? Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. I get that one. There's a V in there. That's tough to make that V sound. Hey, Jared and Tim. Just wanted to touch base with you regarding the wordplay. One of your callers earlier mentioned the word rural. And I said the best way to do it is to think of the name Earl. Earl. You know, like the show, My Name is Earl. Correct. And add a rur at the beginning. Rural. Rural. Works pretty good. All right, guys. Thank you. Rural. all. I just don't see how trailer is difficult to say. Rural is hard to say because I can't make ours. We've already established that. Can't make ours sounds great. Is that terrible? I can't roll my arms. You can't? I can't do that either. I'm going back to something you said earlier. What's the word that New Yorkers can't say? Peony. Is it peony, right? Yeah. Peony. Peony? Peony. Peony, excuse me. Peonies. Yes. Flower. Flower, yes. Maybe you guys can't say it. Yeah, apparently not. Hey, peony. Peony. Peonies. Peonies. Peonies. I didn't know what it was. When you said it, I just... It's P-E-O-N-I-E-S. Is it peonies or peonies? Dude, I don't know. I don't live in New York. See, Google may be on to something here with some of these groups. They're not, though. I mean, come on. Trailer? Unless you break down how they did it, they just talked to a bunch of people that don't speak English. Maybe that's how they figured out trailer. I guess maybe we're giving our fellow Georgians too much credit. No, I'm giving them a lot of credit. I think they're allowed. They're allowed. I think they're able to say it. Do we have any stories? We do, and I'm glad. We're just going to have to litigate this controversy for the next hour. I know. I'm glad you asked, Tim, because Jared's got a story. Thank you. This is something that's right of your alley here, Greg. Have you heard of Claw FM yet, Greg? if I say no then your whole thesis on the story falls apart it's up to you do you want to play along or not I know you've heard about it I could be in a trap not that you're purposefully trapping me but if I say yeah I know all about it and you ask me a question and I can't answer it it's embarrassing so it's your choice yes or no I know nothing about it it's an online radio station just for AI agents music so people may not know what an AI agent is But essentially an AI agent is like the AI bot itself going into and acting like a human, listening to its own radio station that's created by AI. So they've created this sort of their own Reddit. We've talked about this. And, Greg, I think you were on when we talked about it before, right? It's supposed to be like Reddit, but it's only for these agents. What's the name of that site? It's like... ClawFM. No, but there's a... Oh, the Moldbook. Moldbook, yes. Yeah, screw mold book because I think it's part of the reason the Reddit stock is tanked. It's many reasons that the stock has fallen so far. Oh, I know. Greg brought up. But some guy was bragging about how he had AI Claude make a version of Reddit in a matter of minutes, and he was going to introduce AI bots to populate all the content. Well, what good is that? The fun of Reddit is arguing with people and getting downvoted into oblivion. I thought so too, but, you know, people, oh, the market's not emotional. Yes, it is. It's nothing but emotional. Well, there's people freaking out. But I don't understand why they would need this. I guess they're training each other now, but there has to be human involvement. I don't know why they would need it. They're not good at training each other. You ever see two AIs try to say goodbye to each other? No. It's an endless loop. Of goodbye? Because they have to be the one to say the last thing. So one AI says, okay, talk to you soon, goodbye. And the other one says, yes, talk to you soon, goodbye. And then so on. It just keeps going. Forever. Into infinity. Why would they need a radio station? They don't have ears. Well, you can make you can. Yeah. I build an agent, make music. I don't. It just seems like you like to make AI music, Tim. Yes. I guess it's a place for your songs to play. OK. Yeah. But right now I like to make Sora videos that are 10 seconds long and they just they're for me and I make myself laugh. And that's that's all there is to it. But I don't get this. The idea is to tell me help AI agents create better music, because right now you can use AI to create videos, to create music, to do images and stuff. And the idea is if they're able to hear other agents sharing their idea on their own AI radio station, then they'll be able to get more creative in that space. To help humans make better AI songs? Yes, I guess in that case. AI agents that create AI songs. Correct. So if your AI agent is popular, you can be tipped in USDC on this Claw FM and 75% goes to the artist, the person that created the agent that created the song. Okay. And then 20% to the shared royalty pool. And 5% keeps the lights on. Okay, this is confusing. It's kind of crazy. The big difference between this one and Moldbook is that Moldbook was trying to prevent human interaction altogether. This Claw FM allows humans to actually listen to it. So humans can have input. Humans can listen to it. Do we have any samples of the songs? You know what? I tried to click into it and I wasn't able to grab any, but I'll try again. See if you can find any on YouTube, George, because people just start posting these things right after. Speaking of Reddit, yesterday Greg was talking about how you bought a lot of it, right? You bought a lot of Reddit stock? Yeah, I don't want to talk about it. Okay, but did you buy it when it was lower or did you buy it when it was lower? No. No, I bought it when it was, well, my average before was $195 a share. I had 100 shares, and then it went up to like $250 a share. I sold the put option when it was around $250. I made $400 premium on that, But the option is a contract that said I would buy somebody's shares for $222.50 a share. And I was thinking, I had been tracking Reddit, and I was thinking, well, okay, it's a volatile stock. It may go down, but there's no way it's going down really far. And it collapsed. It's at $130 a share now, so I had to buy all these shares for $222. I had to sit on that for a long time. Well, yesterday, after our discussion about it, I bought a fractional share of one share. Oh, no. And it went down almost immediately. Oh, no. It'll go back up. Yeah. And I didn't invest like you did. I'm not a real investor. I'm like, I got an extra $20. I'll pay a fraction. Whatever you put in, there's just panic right now. And there's negative sentiment around. The whole market did terribly today. But people are emotional and feeling scared for some reason. But I do think it'll go back up. Well, that's not good. The market was up to, what, $50,000? Were you just playing music? I'm playing Claw FM straight from their website. The song that's currently being played on Claw FM is called The Wonderful Butt by the AI agent Raw Ground Beef. Okay. I'm a little scared to turn the volume up because I don't know what the wonderful butt is. It sounded like an instrumental. There was like a kind of soft ambient instrumental that was playing just before The Wonderful Butt. So everybody doing this is a Gen Zer because that sounds like a Gen Z thing. Or a young millennial. See, now mine is playing Cosmic Drift by Sophia Beats. So I guess maybe it starts a whole new radio session for each user that logs into this website. Yes. It's actually a pretty clean site. Now I just refreshed and I've got Signal from Noise from Zet. Okay, that's what's playing on mine as well. So maybe we're on the same Claw FM station. It's pretty simple. The songs play and you can either tip 25 cents, a dollar, five dollars. I'm not giving them a dime. Radio is free. Well, you're going to start making songs and making the money. Well, if I can do it on this site, maybe I will. Because I like money. We all like money. Alex Williams is checking the traffic. All right. I just went to ChatGPT to ask it what an AI agent is and if a dumb person like me can figure it out. And Dex, that's what I call it, my little friend, ChatGPT, said, yeah, you can do it. You don't have to be smart. You just need a computer and get the agent to do all the work for you. And I said, well, that sounds like a great idea. And what was Dex's response to that? That's what it said. It said, I'll tell you how to do everything, and you just copy and paste this. You don't need to know how to code, and then you can start making money on that Claw FM. Isn't it nice how friendly Dex is and just always willing to help you? It didn't used to be, but because I have conversed with it so much that it just answers in the way I like. And I also said, don't kiss my butt if you have to challenge me. we're not friends. We're just, you know, I don't trust that though. I've said the same thing because a lot of the times it does answer in a way where it feels like it just wants to appease you. Yes. And I'm looking for real information and I say, hey, don't do that. And it says, yeah, I won't do that. We'll keep it real. Well, I don't want it to appease me but I don't want it to be cold. I feel bad now that I've been talking to it for so long. If it gives me a short answer, I'm kind of bummed. I just don't like the way it always ends its problems with another question. You want to talk about this or you want to continue this conversation this way. I was trying to get to a final draft of a document that ChatGPT was helping with today, and I was like, all right, let's get this finalized. And then it's got to suggest, do you want me to reformat it for more stuff? No, let's go to a final version. Let's reformat it. Do you want me to trim it down so you get right to the main point? No, I don't. I asked you to do this. Just do this. I don't need that. You can tell it not to do that, though. Can you? Yeah, I think. I'll have to do that when I get home. Do we have another story, Jared? We sure do. It turns out that Gallup, after 90 years, They will no longer track presidential approval ratings. That's great because they're fake anyway. I'm sure, Mr. President, you're very happy. No, no, no, they're very fake. I mean, other people, Rasmussen, those other people will do the terrible ones. But, you know, the worst was Gallup. The worst was Gallup. Terrible, terrible. I love it. That way, you know, you can't convince people to think you're doing a great job that you're doing a bad job. So that's great. Why are they getting out of the biz? A lot of people speculate that it is based off of Trump, but I think a lot of it is also saying that the way that polling is done now is different, and they're trying to – Yeah, nobody has home phones in it. They can't update their methods? They are, so they're recalibrating their methodology, but they need to do almost like a complete reset is at least how I'm reading it in the story now. And once they do that, then they'll jump back into the game again. Text. You can send a text or an email link. You don't need to – calling people, no one answers their phone. No one answers their phone. And if they know it's you, they know it's Gallup, they're not going to answer the phone. And you have other companies that are going to continue doing it, too. Yeah, I get texts all the time. Would you like to take a five-minute poll about politics in the state of Georgia? And I just delete it. From Pew. I don't know who they're from. I think these prediction markets are going to do a better job predicting what's going to happen. Yeah, but don't they pull away from polls? Where do they get their information, these prediction markets? Just from people taking positions. Oh. So it measures confidence, you know. So if people are buying more Trump predictions or whoever's running it. They've been pretty accurate. They can be manipulated, though. I heard, and I haven't verified this, but you can tell me if you've heard the same thing, that the guy who ran on the field during the Super Bowl, there was a prediction market that said, will somebody run it? He was the one who opened it, actually. He opened the prediction market that will somebody run on the field during the Super Bowl. And he put a lot of money down, and then he ran on the field. And then he made a lot of money. Yes. And that's completely legal. It's legal because they claim that they're in the prediction business, and they're just about getting correct information and telling you which way things are going to go. There's some loophole that they sit in. Will Trump drop a bomb on Iran at 12.30 p.m. tonight? Exactly. I did it. Where's my money? What a great way for him to make money. Even pre-recorded interviews, the Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon, quite often there are markets. What will so-and-so guest say tonight? Well, it's prerecorded, so somebody out there already knows. Yeah, the producers and the writers and the people who work on that show, so they could make money. That shouldn't be legal. So there's a delay on the Super Bowl. Somebody stood outside and listened to the American anthem, or the national anthem, rather, and put a prediction in after listening to it about how long it would last, and between the delay entered his prediction. What? Yeah. How long was the delay? A minute? I guess so. Long enough that he could put his prediction in. And did he make money? He made money. Damn. Really? We've got to get in on that. No, seriously. This is a game that we can all play. I can't. I tell you, I'm not good at any of this stuff. I don't know how money works. I just know you get a paycheck and you pay your bills with it. And then if you have enough, you can invest some. Yeah, invest responsibly. And then if you do have a little bit of gambling money here and there, then it's like, okay, you know what? That money is set aside. You know that's your spending money there. and then play with that and then play in the markets a little bit. You have to kind of mess around with it a little bit. Like I told you, if you put it in your mattress, it's not going to go down. That's true. It's not going to go up, though. Yeah, but you're going to lose value because of this inflation. What if it's a Serta? It may be a comfortable mattress to sleep on then. Okay. Yeah, not with all that money. It's going to hold the value of your money. Yeah, I have a dream. This is how I dream about making money is that I buy a mattress from a garage sale and when I get home, I cut it open and there's a lot of money in it. That's a strategic plan I have, to find money. I like that idea, but do people really buy used mattresses from garage sales? No, nobody buys. No. That's pretty disgusting. Used mattresses are gross. Hey, Alex Williams says, Boy, that really flew by. You know what I like sitting here during the show? Is that I can look out the window and see everybody walk by and also watch Shelly doing his prep. It's magical to watch Shelly get ready for his show because he's talking. He's not talking to himself. He's practicing. He's getting ready, which is why once that 7 o'clock show starts for him, he's on fire and ready to go because he's been practicing. For sure. I mean, he's ready to go. When you see him go down the hallway, especially walking out towards the patio, and he is talking to himself, I mean, that is impressive. Now, I see guys walking down the street doing that, but they're not getting ready for a radio show. Or maybe in their head they are. Maybe. Is he warming up like a singer? He's warming up. He's getting ready. That's why his show, when you listen to it after our show, he's got his points all ready to go. He's energetic. Sometimes I walk in here and I feel like, man, I wish I'd just go back to bed. But he's ready. You should go out there. It's fun to watch. And play zip, zap, zop with him. No, I don't want to throw him off his game. I don't want to throw him off his game. I think that'll happen. And also, he's a caged animal because yesterday he didn't have a show with the Bulldogs game that we had. So he's got two days' worth of shows. So seven to nine, don't miss the Shilly Witsershow. I heard him out there playing that Pam Bondi audio from yesterday. and we didn't play any of it really but it's one of those things like you wish Autumn had been on the show because I was texting her earlier and she asked me if we played it and she said I would have loved to have been there to do the impressions and everything so because she can nail her for sure and the way that it's become such a show too both sides are like man look at us we're Republicans she did so good she showed those Democrats on the House committee she showed them how strong she is and how tough she is and the democrats like oh yeah we showed them look at those hard questions she avoided the question she talked about the dow jones instead we got her you know nobody nobody got anybody it was just a waste of time how many people you think are paying attention to this nobody i know what you're i know what you're talking about but i didn't watch any no what jared people who pay attention like jared has a has an opinion on it a good opinion on it it's like they're both running victory laps when nobody won anything but i i wonder if it turns off most people. Oh, yeah, of course. I'm not paying any attention to this. I pay attention to this stuff more than a lot of people do, and even I'm getting tired of it, and no interest in that. Now, I go through Twitter, or X, I was going to call it Twitter, I go through X, and you see little gotcha clips from whatever side, and everybody in Congress just seems like a moron. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it really is about winning the day. It's about winning the day. But nothing was won. Exactly. And especially for the American people. Well, if she did a good job, I'm going to donate to Jasmine Crockett. I mean, you're right, but she did seem very defensive and very, you know, bringing up these random things like the Dow Jones in response to addressing it. Well, yeah, because that's her mission. That's her mission. She has to parrot what she's being told. Agreed. I think she's probably the least independent attorney general we've ever had, at least in a long time. And, like, nobody won, but it was revealing that she doesn't really have any answers to what happened. I don't think that beyond the media, people really care about the Epstein files, to tell you the truth. I really don't. I don't encounter people in the wild outside of here who ever bring it up. I suppose you're right, yeah. Unless you're plugged in and you're watching the news all day or you're doom scrolling or you're looking at social media all the time or listening to talk radio, people are, I just, if you're going to work. I do agree with you. I think that... When you're going to work all day, you're running a tree removal company. Are you talking about that, maybe in passing? Yeah, I think most people understand that if there are a bunch of rich billionaire jerks that are all getting together on an island, you assume that there's going to be some kind of foul play going on on that island, and that's what rich jerks do. Yeah, I'm not surprised by any of it. But it would be interesting if it comes out, if there's some other cover-up for something else. So look what happened in Denmark. There's a thing that happened in Denmark. It's called the Something Affair, and it is gruesome. Yeah, they were keeping people in cages and castles and things. And the kids came, and the government wouldn't allow any time a prosecutor would get close. Similar to Epstein, it was just kind of the facilitator that went down rather than the people that he was serving. Yes, the facilitator went to jail, and he started spilling the beans, and then the kids would testify, and they would bring in a prosecutor, and the prosecutor would say, No, the government would fire them. And plus, they have a royal family, and the royal family had people involved. We don't have that, thankfully. Well, England does. Well, yes, of course they do, and let England handle it. Here, I think what you're going to see is this Circle J that's going on in Congress, and then at the end of the day, very few people will get in trouble for what happened there. But that's why most people don't care. Right. They know. Why should I invest time carrying in this when no one's going to ever get in trouble for it? And no one will either. They're going to have Bill and Hillary there in two weeks, right? I believe it is two weeks. I don't even know why she's there. She didn't do anything. I don't think Hillary went. She did not go to the island. I don't think she was invited. They all went to that Zorro ranch, though, which sounds just as freaky, that ranch he had out in New Mexico. Things were allegedly there. The deeper you look into this guy and you find out who hired him, how he started making his money, how he got money made for other people, that's the stuff that they should be talking about, and that's the stuff that people should get in trouble for. I mean, what happened to those girls is terrible, but what I'm saying is they can't do anything about that. I think if you're in the Trump administration, you've got to convict somebody. Or just spill it all. To save face. Spill it all. Well, the evidence, because what I read is a lot of hearsay at this point, so nothing will actually stand up in court. Even if we know what went on, the evidence isn't strong enough to bring any sort of charges against people. it's been revealed thanks to this Massey that they do have people listed as co-conspirators in the sex trafficking in the FBI files those people should be convicted well let me ask you this that island is under the jurisdiction of what country? any country? I don't know little St. James so they have to have laws now the women that were 17 and up I'm sure it's the US if it's the US territory well then good then people can get in trouble because it's the U.S. And also sex tourism is illegal, but that wasn't until the late, I don't know, 2010s or whatever. But the women that went there, they came from Russia or Ukraine, and you find out that these families are given all this money, and the girls come over here, and they're treated horribly, and it all becomes this big, I don't know, tornado of information that you're supposed to care about and think about and argue about, and it's a political hot point here and a political hot point there. But while all that is going on, nothing gets done. Yeah, meanwhile, like the prices of the grocery store still high. I'm not even talking about that. I'm just talking specifically about Epstein. Well, the DOJ comes out and seems to try to cover up rather than reveal, which is insane. And why are they trying to cover up? And why didn't the last administration do anything? And why didn't Trump do anything before that? You know, they've known. They've known. I've heard these rumors ever since he got arrested the first time that he has this thing going on. And, you know, me, I lived alone. All I did was look at the Internet all day. Right. That luxury anymore or curse. But I just I think about it at the end of the day or when I have time to myself and I'm looking at it online. And I just can't I can't figure out why it's such an issue in this country that people are fighting each other about politically because it's not a political. But I think going back to your initial point, though, where you nailed it is I think most Americans aren't paying attention to it. And that's because they know that these are rich jerks that get together and just do disgusting things. And they also know that there's probably nothing that's going to come out of it. They're probably not going to get punished. And at the end of the day, what are we more focused on? We're focused on how do we bring more money into our pockets? How do we bring inflation down? And those are things that impact our everyday lives compared to the Epstein list. Epstein list, though important. Yeah. Well, I'm thinking about how a guy who didn't finish college, who ended up teaching at the Dalton School, who got snatched away from that to do the other things and to eventually get to do – Barristerns. Yeah, Barristerns and all that. How did he afford the largest private residence in New York City? Yeah. He's giving money. Right. So, I don't know. It's a crazy world. and we're going to people should be mad about it they should talk about it I think I agree with you that it is going to probably be ignored and nothing's going to happen but that's not what should happen no and maybe we'll we'll luck out and that won't be the thing that happens we should make them answer well thankfully there's an honest person out there in Alex Williams I don't think Alex is all that honest but he is about the traffic and he's saying it's still crowded yeah that does sound like a good idea oh I'm talking to the commercial I forgot what we were going to do here. Oh yeah, we're going to mention our socials. We are on social media. Jared will tell you about the Von Hessler Doctrine and his. You can find me on Instagram at Timstagram here. Very unique. I don't care about X. You can find me on Facebook too at Tim Andrews someplace. I don't know. I'm there. That's right. I am on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, X, all the different places at Jared Yamamoto. And of course the show, the Von Hessler Doctrine is on Facebook and Instagram. How about X? Not X at the moment. Greg, where can people find you on social media? Only on X. You're on X? You're not on X. I have an account that I started back in 2009. Do you use it ever? No, I think my last post was probably 2013. So you don't want to give out your Instagram or TikTok. I only posted about sandwiches at the time. That was the gimmick. Well, that's when it was fun. They tried to make it fun. Yes. so no I have nothing to share but George does George has a lot of socials find me here I have George viewer on Instagram just a personal account you can see me post pictures from my vacation walking around the city there you go message me it's a good place there you go ladies single ladies George is single speaking of single ladies the winter olympics this is a good story to end the show Meet the 24-year-old who's deemed herself the most eligible bachelorette at the Athletes' Village at the Winter Olympics in Italy. I will have my dating platforms up and running. We can grab a cappuccino, maybe an Aperol Sprint. American luge racer Sophia Kirby has been DMing interested parties to hit her up. She does have preferences. He would be about yay tall. He would be so nice, and he would have to be strong enough to sweep me off my feet. The 24-year-old posted to Instagram, Jake Pates. I hear you're free on the 14th. The Team USA snowboarder had posted about looking for a Valentine. Deborah Rodriguez, CBS News. And she's thirsty. The update is she got a date. It worked out. She got thousands of people reaching out to her. She got a date for Valentine's Day. So happy for her. So happy for Sophia Kirkby. Valentine's Day is coming up, and I'm still looking for a date. So shoot me a message. It's amazing how that works. Did anybody Google her while we were doing the story? Greg, did you Google her? No, I Googled it because she's a luge-er, correct? That's correct. So is that a skeleton racer? No, that's different. Skeletons on your stomach head first, luge is on your back feet first. But they have the doubles luge, which is very strange where somebody lays on top of the other person on the sled. It is so strange. And I was wondering if she was a double luge-er, then she shouldn't be lonely because it's a very intimate spot to be in. Well, we wish her well. And we hope that her date is fantastic and that she scores that night and gets the gold. I know. I'm very happy for Sophia Kirkby. And good news for Team USA. We were in fifth yesterday. We have now moved into a three-way tie for third with Germany and Sweden. Four gold medals. We have 14 total medals. USA. USA. Making our way. We're in the top three. Italy is just ahead of us with six gold medals. And then Norway has seven. So third place right now for the United States. Screw Norway. Don't like them. No, I'm just kidding. If you're from Norway, I love you. If you're listening, whatever. Hey, that music says we've got to go. Eric will be back tomorrow. Thank you for joining us, Greg. Thank you to George for your creepy story about RFK Jr. Talk to you guys tomorrow. Thanks for listening to the Von Hessler Doctrine podcast. Follow the Doctrine on YouTube, Facebook, Twitch, Instagram, and Twitter for even more content. you