O'Connor & Company

Al Corbi on Doomsday Bunkers and Trump's Underground Complex

17 min
Apr 3, 2026about 2 months ago
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Summary

O'Connor & Company discusses President Trump's underground military bunker complex being constructed beneath the White House ballroom with guest Al Corbi, president and founder of SAFE, a luxury bunker and protective shelter company. Corbi explains the strategic importance of presidential bunkers for continuity of government and shares insights into his company's high-end security projects ranging from $1,300 to $103 million installations.

Insights
  • Presidential bunkers serve continuity-of-government functions, not personal safety—they enable leadership to maintain command authority during national emergencies
  • Luxury bunker market spans extreme price ranges ($1,300 to $103M+) based on client needs, similar to automotive market differentiation (Toyota vs. Bugatti analogy)
  • Growing consumer awareness and internet education is driving demand for mid-market bunker solutions among affluent middle-class families, not just ultra-high-net-worth individuals
  • Critical survival priorities in bunkers follow a finite hierarchy: water, food, medications, and fallout protection—not elaborate stockpiling
  • Specialized bunker design requires deep government security expertise; SAFE's founder spent 23 years as lead architect for Department of Justice black ops facilities
Trends
Rising demand for residential security infrastructure among affluent Americans amid geopolitical uncertaintyShift from ultra-luxury bunker market toward accessible mid-market solutions as consumer education increasesIntegration of bunker facilities with luxury residential design (e.g., Fiery Lake project positioning as world-class private estate)Global threat-driven demand cycles—bunker inquiries spike following major geopolitical events or security incidentsGovernment-grade security standards trickling down to private residential market through specialized contractorsEmphasis on operational continuity and command authority over survival bunkers in high-level security planningBulletproof glass and drone-resistant architecture becoming standard in presidential-level bunker specifications
Companies
SAFE
Luxury bunker and protective shelter company founded by Al Corbi; specializes in residential and government-level sec...
National Air and Space Museum
Mentioned for Apollo exhibit and Artemis mission discussion; celebrating 50th anniversary this year
People
Al Corbi
Expert on bunker design and protective environments; former lead architect for Department of Justice black ops facili...
Donald Trump
Subject of discussion regarding underground military bunker complex expansion beneath White House ballroom
Tiesel Muir Harmony
Upcoming guest to discuss Apollo exhibit and Artemis mission; mentioned as scheduled for later in show
Oprah Winfrey
Referenced as SAFE client; received $1,300 home protection service (returned $200 of fee)
Quotes
"Presidential bunker isn't a place for the president to go and hide. It's where leadership continues when everything around us is chaotic. It's really our last chance."
Al Corbi
"The ballroom essentially becomes a shed for what's being built under the military including from drones and including from any other thing."
Donald Trump
"I often make I like cars. You know how a Toyota is a really good car starts up. Get you where you want to go. A Bugatti is a really nice car. Two doors four tires just like the Toyota. It's going to cost you twenty million dollars. They're both cars. It just depends what you want to do with them."
Al Corbi
"52 years we've never had a client harmed. We've never had their possessions compromised. Can you imagine anyone else being able to say that."
Al Corbi
"I'm a Rolls Royce salesman that drives home every night in a rusted out Volkswagen. I can't afford my own product."
Al Corbi
Full Transcript
Now on 105.9 FM and streaming worldwide on the WMAL app, O'Connor & Company. WMAL. Good morning to you and good Friday to you as we end a very busy week in the nation's capital as we try to put aside all the the news and the bluster and the drama and refocus on what's most important this very holy week and heading us toward Easter Sunday. We're doing our best in that regard. I hope you're along with us for the ride. Coming up in 30 minutes we're gonna have a conversation with the curator for the Apollo exhibit over at the National Air and Space Museum, Tiesel Muir Harmony. Very excited to have that conversation talk about the Artemis mission and how it sort of fits into the grand scheme of things. Also this year the 50th anniversary of the Air and Space Museum probably one of the most popular attractions on the mall. Have you taken your little girl Alex Swayer to the Air and Space Museum? I have and you know what I will say they have like some kids stuff but I feel like it could do better. The kids exhibit could be so much better. For these little ones too. For the littlest ones you are right. It is more I would say the wheelhouse is 7 to 17. Yeah it's older. It's definitely older. But once she's at that age she's gonna let all the virtual the simulators all of the like you can't touch anything like the one thing that they had and you know she's forced so she runs up and grabs it right so that was they need some. Get your kid under control. Monster maniac running and ruining the exhibit on the Spirit of 76. Hey I wanted to run and touch it too Larry. It looks really cool. Only Apple doesn't fall far. Alright joining us right now is Al Corby. Now he's the president founder of SAFE. This is a company that makes well well I mean there's no other way to say it. Prepper bunkers. Doomsday bunkers you know but but by the way they're amazing. I gotta tell you what you've got going on Al under the ground is more impressive and more luxurious than anything I've built above the ground so good on you. Thanks. Listen we've all sort of been seeing Harry listen to President Trump yesterday because he's under fire for the ballroom and all that stuff and everybody knows anyone who knows anything knows that there's a huge network of facilities underneath the White House in the bunker there and this ballroom project the former East Wing has turned into an opportunity to really upgrade all of the bunker stuff underneath there. Here take a listen to President Trump talking about it. Ballroom which has come out recently because of a stupid lawsuit that was filed but the military is building a massive complex under the ballroom and that's under construction and we're doing very well so we're ahead of schedule that's part of it. The ballroom essentially becomes a shed for what's being built under the military including from drones and including from any other thing. The glass on the windows you see the big windows the glass is extremely thick it's high grade bulletproof glass so all of the windows are bulletproof. Honestly obviously you need some major security there but you know he gave you a little bit of a hint as to what's being built under the ground there. What do you think based on your knowledge and your expertise how extensive is this complex under the White House? Well you know you kind of want to frame it to begin with. Presidential bunker isn't a place for the president to go and hide and we've got nothing to do with that actually. It's where leadership continues when everything around us is chaotic. It's really our last chance not his. You know what I mean? Yeah yeah you're right a lot of people make it sound like oh the president's gonna go cower and fear and hide from whatever it's no. So he can continue you know being commander in chief. Exactly and that's the whole point I mean over the last 50 years I've designed these protective environments that need to be operational in national level emergencies. They're really there for all of us. I'm not the one that's going to be pushing a button someone else has to and and if they don't do it I'm gonna lose so I kind of look at the ballroom as my last chance. What do you what would you advise what do you think are that some of the key components that the president's going to need and those building this bunker down there like what what is the top that comes to mind. Well you know that's really the question that's that's the important one what does this thing have to do. Well first off it's got to survive the event. We know you know it doesn't do that it didn't work okay then we we need for the people in there to be able to maintain communications and then they have to preserve the command authority. If it does that there are quarterbacks they're down there keeping us all safe so you know this nonsense we're hearing about don't don't do it don't let it happen don't build it. I don't know where that's coming from on it's not gonna save me I'm not gonna be in it you know it's it's TDS is where it's coming from. Now your company it's safe-us.com I've been looking at your website and I'm trying to block this on my wife's browser because dude she I mean honestly she'll we'll lose our fortune by giving it to you sir because this is what she wanted. I have to interrupt you because this is terrific it's always the wide to come to us. And what you're capable of doing you do panic rooms you you can make a hardened home to protect the home itself but then you dive deep and I do mean that literally into the kind of bunker facilities this is not you know a family of four cowering with MREs waiting for the air raid to finish these are some of the most elaborate bunkers. What is your training how what is your background to be able to do these things and also who's buying these other than you know the Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg. Well the training was coming from a family that had more protection and security back in the day than the White House not now but back then and then for 23 years I was the lead architect for the Department of Justice designing black ops facilities around the world. So. Oh have you written a book yet Al or are you not allowed to. I'll send you a copy. So who are your customers who's who I mean obviously the president is the president and and when he's not the president he's still Donald Trump but but I mean are you getting calls from people all the time saying that they want a basic facility for just in case. Well kind of wrap your arms around this. I'll give you two examples that happened in the same year. Okay. Keep in mind these both happen the same year. We get a call from a gentleman. He shows up the next day in his entourage and when the project was done it was a hundred and three million dollars for a protective shelter for one property. One hundred and three million dollars. Okay. Same year. Same year. We get a call from Oprah. She gave us fifteen hundred dollars to protect the house. One of her viewers. We gave her two. We gave we gave her two hundred dollars back. We protected the house for thirteen hundred dollars. So this was the same year. Thirteen hundred dollars. One hundred and three million dollars. You know think of it. I often make I like cars. I like them things to cars. You know how a Toyota is a really good car starts up. Get you where you want to go. Really works right. Yeah. Okay. Costs twenty thousand dollars. A Bugatti is a really nice car. Two doors four tires just like the Toyota. It's going to cost you twenty million dollars. Yeah. They're both cars. It just depends what you want to do with them. And that's what the security is. But twenty years from now that Bugatti isn't going to be doing anything for you. But that forerunner probably still going to be getting it from me. One of the things that we were talking about the president. But I have I guess my curiosity is just going. So I'm going to ask you what's one of the weirdest things that any client has requested for their bunker. Like what you know what was the most unusual I guess request you've had. And also like what are people. I went to your website and I know I like so I'm going I want a residential bunker and then it asks like the primary purpose like emergency shelter if there's a natural disaster or civil unrest protection like what are people coming to you. What's their biggest concern. Yeah what's the fear. We get that we go back to that earlier example of one hundred and three million. Billion Vince Colnays is redefining news talk with the Vince show. It is a reflection of your response to this program that we get to take this thing to the next level. These gigantic shows. This is going to be so much fun. It's unbelievable in depth interviews live caller interactions and a front row seat to the most important conversations of the day. I've got updates. I've got big stories. We'll sort through the truth of what's really going on to buckle up. Here it comes. The Vince show. Follow and listen on your favorite platform and then the thirteen hundred people. Everyone's different. I guarantee the two of you are wildly different. And when you come to me you have something in mind. We're doing two projects right now. I don't know if you seen the fiery Lake project. But this is probably outside of maybe Putin's mountain. This is the coolest private estate in the world right now in the world. And this was a very simple nice gentleman that had a focus. No matter what happens in the world. I want my family to be safe and we want to be out of the need. So you know we we we want nothing to be able to take us out. OK. That's the one extreme. And then you have the other people who are still living on the surface of the planet and not in their bunkers. They got to get that to work. We got traffic. But hold on for 60 seconds. Al Corby is the president founder of safe. That's safe dash US dot com. He is an expert in security in creating safe environments hardening your house creating panic rooms and bunkers. And we wanted to talk to him as an expert as we've learned more and more about the extensive bunker that's being constructed under the White House or expanded I should say under the White House. And of course the ballroom is sort of the afterthought that sort of being built on top. I go to the website here and I see a picture of the White House. Is that just for you know it's a pretty building and you know grabbed a grabbed some stock footage of the White House or have you actually done projects at 1600 Pennsylvania. Let's just say everything on the website are things we've been involved with. All right. Enough said. Let's get back to the the the big is there's a lot of people in this area who work for the government have worked in the military continue to do work even outside the government that may raise security concerns for themselves and their families. Do you get do you get a lot of business here in the DC area of people who are looking for very specific security needs. DC has always been very kind to us. But the fact of the matter is we are global. Calls come in you know three in the morning while you're dead asleep from somebody that you can't quite understand and you're on a plane the next day. So it's just whoever wants to be safe that day. This is a Netflix series waiting to be made. Is there like a cut like you you mentioned that is there a part of the world that you have most that you get those calls from more than others. Well and as you can imagine yes and it's forever changing because you know as the threats move people become more and more concerned more and more aware and they think oh you know I better act I better do something now. So it typically is a knee jerk reaction to something that they've been thinking about for a long time. Are there clients that you won't take. You know I'm guessing if back in the day Osama bin Laden called you and said yeah I could use a bunker you'd probably say no no thanks man we don't want your money but I mean beyond that I mean are there are do you sort of like make a judgment call and say I'm not interested in protecting your life. No if Osama bin Laden called me back then he'd still be alive. The thing is that where we draw the line is recent news. You know the whole Epstein thing. Oh yeah. No no no there are places we draw the line. I'm not here to make judgments about people when they call in if it's Mother Teresa I'll protect her. Whoever it is will protect them but yes there are lines and I think they're probably the same ones you'd have. I don't know. I'm pretty surprised that you'd build a bunker for Osama. Well the thing is when someone calls in to be protected I don't know them at that time and you meet with them and you do what they need and they are protected. 52 years we've never had a client harmed. We've never had their possessions compromised. Can you imagine anyone else being able to say that. I'd like to think that the government that's why I'm glad to see the White House is on your homepage because clearly you're operating at a pretty high level here. Are there are there sort of like you said you could help Oprah for $1500. Do you see more of that business of just families who would like you know what just for whatever reason we'd like a safe place to go and and to be able to have some resources and some stockpile of things and just just a basic or do you see more of the elaborate stuff. Both but what's interesting is people are becoming more educated. Remember that old commercial and educated consumer is our best client. The fact is once you start becoming educated and you understand that this is doable. Remember the car analogy. You can have security at any price point. You just have to know what it is and the and people are starting to find that out now. The Internet's a great thing. It's educated people greatly to what they can do. So we're getting a huge influx of people like me you know. Just middle American people. I often say I'm a Rolls Royce salesman that drives home every night and a rusted out Volkswagen. I can't afford my own product. You know. So people like me now want to protect our families and they're going wait a minute. I can afford that. So they go for it. What do people want to stockpile? Like I'm guessing food and waters the number one. Well you nailed it. I mean that that is think of a clock. There are certain things you as a human being need to stay alive and the shortest clock times are water food certain medications depending upon you're like if there's nuclear fallout there's certain medications you want to take right away and you'll be fine. So there's a very finite list. It's not that long but you should have those things. President Trump building a enormous and elaborate military grade bunker there at the White House for obviously his successors and for future presidents and on the top a pretty nice looking ballroom as well and we just wanted to know. I very much advise you go check out the website so you can see just how elaborate this bunkers can be and how impressive Al's work is Al Corby. Thanks for joining us and shedding some light on this. Well thank you for that and good luck to you guys. Thank you. Well I don't like somebody in his position saying good luck. Yeah good luck good luck. Thanks out. Let's take 24. Next roll with Vernon Davis to transformative journeys of athletes artists and entrepreneurs. Ladies and gentlemen lights out Sean Mary. I want to be the biggest and the best when I do. And so whatever it takes I'll get it done in business and everything else. All I do is know how to fight and earn what I want. My man Malik asked what actor comedian what you want to collaborate with. Me Jamie Foxley Kevin Hart in a movie. We said it on Vernon Davis podcast. So we'll circle back. Yeah. Next roll with Vernon Davis. Follow and listen on your favorite platform. Hi I'm Joe Salci. Hi host of the stacking Benjamin's podcast. Most economists agree small amount of inflation is actually good. 2% is what you're going for. Why is everybody freaking out. 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