Eagles "embarrassing" loss to 49ers, Matt LaFleur & John Harbaugh rumors, ICE shooting in Minnesota | 01.12

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A wave original. My name is Beaumonti Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. All right. NFL playoffs are too big. We have had these wildcard weekends with some blowouts in them, just absolute terrible action. And got to say, they gave us bangers this weekend, right? They gave us no fewer than four absolute bangers, cliffhangers, nail biters. However you want to put it, I got to say to you, NFL, well played, baby. You gave us what we came here for. But as much as I wanted, they give it up over all to the NFL. And that's cool. We got to look specifically at you guys. Nobody better for business than you guys. And you know who those guys are. Those guys are the Philadelphia Eagles. Ryan, we've been doing this all year long, where I had to tell myself we're not going to talk about the Eagles every week, right? It had long stretches where we didn't. And it was honestly, because I could talk about the Eagles every day and never get tired of it. Correct. We could talk Jalen Hertz, Nick Siriani, AJ Brown, every day, every Monday. And they gave us every reason why we want to talk about them every Monday over the course of the last three hours. Think about this, man. They got two white dudes out here covering people. Right. And that's never the issue. I never came. Shit, this one didn't come up. That's one of the bright spots of their whole situation. Like, look, man, when white boys play a defensive back and carry the low for your team, baby, you guys got to, you know, got to wonder exactly what's going on here. Look, they lost this game to the 49ers, and it is the rare flat out indefensible loss, right? Like, normally, if teams are playing at any point in the playoffs, to the exception of that 2-7 game, by and large, it's like, OK, this could probably go either way. We talked about this with the 49ers last week. I don't know anybody that plays defense for them, right? And then on offense, and you pointed this out, who the hell are those guys that Purdy's out here throwing the ball to? Kittle goes down with the Achilles. It's a lot of Christian McCaffery, and then it's Jawan Jennings. Yes. You know, it is, again, it's a mildly crude dudes at Shanahan scheming up out there. They used to check guys still in the league. Right. Right. And so this was the thing about it for the Eagles. The 49ers, as presently constructed, should need to make no mistakes in order to win against a team with the horses that the Eagles have. OK? Brock Purdy threw two interceptions, and they were bad interceptions, right? Like, they were, and I just turned them around. Those were bad interceptions that he threw. They still beat the Eagles, still beat them. Like, I had been a Brock Purdy skeptic for a very long time. OK? He is clearly a starting NFL quarterback. And what has to really stink for the Eagles is he was clearly the better quarterback in the game. And I don't mean simply that he played better than Jalen Hertz did. You're asking me which one of them am I going to take? At this point, I'm taking Purdy. And look, man, that imaginary cookout invitation is imperil for me saying that. But I ain't already. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is how it looked. This is how it appeared to be. You've got, what's his name? Sirianni, after AJ Brown drives a pass, running at him, right, to go scream at him. And Brown's screaming right back. And they can talk all that, yeah, but we still love each other. Hey, hey, hey, I tell you what my therapist would say about that kind of love. He did. It's not really what it is. It was a collective failure, right? Is it the quarterback's fault? Yes. Did AJ Brown drop some passes right there? Yes. And that's got to be the worst for him. Because he out there mad as hell, because Jalen Hertz is not playing well. And then finally, he dials it up right on your hands on the third down. And the game matters. And you don't bring it in, right? You had that one in the first half that you did not bring in. It was everybody's fault in this game that the Eagles lost it. This is why I say indefensible. Even without laying jobs into a couple of guys, you down, man. Y'all had to players. Y'all had it at the crib. The only way for you to truly lose this game is by being out-coached. All right. And let's just go through the second half drives. Punt, Punt, 10 plays 23 yards field goal. Punt field goal, down to end the game. OK. And what's Sirianne supposed to be good at? What's his thing? He's the offensive guy. Right. This is your offense. And look, if your quarterback isn't that guy, I'm sorry, but the other team has Brock Purdy. You understand what I'm saying? Like Kyle, by the way, I don't think we've talked about this nearly enough. They lost that game in the NFC championship where Brock Purdy got hurt, right? Right. I know the way that we talk about Kyle Shanahan as a coach. I know the way that we talk about Nick Sirianne as a coach. If that's the way that we talk about Kyle Shanahan and we talk about Nick Sirianne, how do you think Kyle Shanahan talks about Nick Sirianne? Do you know how furious he was when Purdy went down? Like, do you realize if we think these things about Kyle, Kyle really thinks these things about Kyle? And if we think these things about Sirianne, Kyle thinks these things about Sirianne. Oh my god. So you think Kyle's out here trying to get cooked by Sirianne? Like, there's a, you know, the old story. I think we've talked about this on the show, but if you hadn't heard it, when Bobby Knight talks about man, I wasn't sure how that game was going to go. Then I look over and saw Dale Brown, and I knew everything was going to be OK. Yeah, I was talking about that. That's got to be Kyle Shanahan at the prospect of coaching a game against Nick Sirianne. And that's more or less what happened here. His team was the better coach team, period. I would not blame them if they fired Sirianne at midfield for this game, right? They're not going to. But what will it take, right? Because they're going to be so, at least they are so talented. And it feels like they'll be this talented for a while, that they'll be able to win 10, 11, 12 games. But something's not right. Right. I mean, and if something was not right all year, the vibes were not great all year. They weren't great last year. They just wanted to Super Bowl. And we're now two of the last three years where the vibes are terrible. You have a stunning collapse to end your season. I mean, it wasn't as bad as the Bucks lost where they quit out there. But this was the offense was as inept as it's been all year long. Yes. This is more than likely AJ Brown's last game with the team. You got to be. So like, I mean, as Deontay always says, what exactly do you do here? Yeah, so when you are getting booed in a close playoff game, because here we go with that shit again. That's a thing. People couldn't even focus to keep the main thing the main thing. So like, whoo. And again, though, credit to Shan had a really credit to Salah, man, because them dudes is out there bringing the hammer with I'm telling you again, I don't know who these people are. And I don't know who these people are because they had people who I did know. Guys like Fred Warner, who might go to the Hall of Fame, they're hurt. They were beat down. There for my money, Hall of Fame tied in probably post like non-Grogg best tied in of his era in Kettle. It may be over for him. He just had the Achilles tear. McCaffrey's still getting it done. I did not realize he had 400 something touches this year. Like, this is a tricky one for Kyle, because they're down so many guys. And I don't think I don't know what this is going to be next year for them, just because of what the physical toll is going to be for all of us. But what it wasn't going to be was him losing no game to no Nick Syrian. Yeah, and after this, they have to go out and they got to go play Sam Darnold. And they got to go play that Mike McDonald defense. Yeah, but no, this is where this gets fun, man, because Sam Darnold is Sam Darnold. We'll have plenty of time to talk about this, but he is same Darnold, OK? Like, we have seen enough to know that he didn't turn into an entirely different person. But this is teams that have played each other twice. They're going to be it. That's going to be a very good game, I think. But again, the C-House will be nice to rest as 49 is beat up. I want to also say this right here. Shout out to you, Josh Allen, because a lonely nation turns its eyes to you, apparently. Ryan, I don't think I've got no idea what these broadcasters going to do if they had no Josh Allen for the rest of these playoffs. That a buddy hit me up and was like, hey, man, I'll be watching the Red Zone for the majority of the year. So I don't hear the announcers. And I've been hearing people talk about how they be glazing Josh Allen, but he just figured that his black people being a little hypersensitive about the situation. And then he watched the game and he was like, no, no, no. That's not what happened here. I think that insult applies with Romo and Josh Allen, in particular. I think he's going to push into him. It's just all that, the whole game. By the way, hate to just push so much. Oh my god, that play where they basically walked into the end zone and he's aligned him and basically carried him. That's not what this is supposed to be. This has got to be the last year of it. And I'm not taking no credit away from Allen because the big galoot was Galoot and dog. He was getting it done. I mean, he ain't throwing to nobody either. You know, just to be clear, that was an amazing game. I thought, I mean, I didn't feel like that's a game where I come out of it really blaming people. Although I guess you and I didn't think the Jaguars had any need to throw the ball at all in that game. They were averaging at one point, like eight yards of run in the first half. And we, I'm calling these off as coaches sometimes, just can't help themselves. Just can't do it, right? Like if there's a blame, it's that. But I still, that was a game I came away from it just being like, hey, that's off to all parties involved in the course of it. But I mean, it's just Josh Allen thing is interesting in that we have extended him a measure of patience for being in year eight. Maybe this is because we do treat my homes like Jordan. And so like we not Charles Barkley for not winning the championship, we not Patrick Ewing for not winning the championship, but we don't really look at them like they were deficient because of the recognition of the time and error in which they play. Maybe that is the benefit of the doubt that we are affording Josh Allen. Because to be fair, we don't really knock Lamar Jackson for having not won a Super Bowl. Right. We've knocked him for bad playoff performance. Yeah. Not for not winning a Super Bowl. Right. Some total of it, right? So to be fair to Josh Allen and all of this, however, if the quarterback means what we say that the quarterback means, then this is the time for him to go ahead and do it. Because let me make sure, like you go back through and you look at what the rest of this conference is going to be. It feels kind of like we're in an era in the NFL where, and I guess maybe it's been longer than this. And I just, we just haven't given enough credit. I know I've talked about this in the past. You can win with a starting quarterback, not necessarily a franchise quarterback. I mean, Jalen Hurts just won a Super Bowl. I think that's the definition of the starting quarterback, but not the franchise quarterback. But truthfully, before him, the last quarterback that we had won a Super Bowl that truly fit that definition, I guess, is Nick Foles. I mean, we'll never say this, but the last. Maybe the old versus the Tom Brady. No, I was going to say specifically the last Patriots version of Tom Brady, because the Bucks, he was playing a little, he got a little bit going towards the end of that season and was really good. Bad in the playoffs. Yeah, and got really good the last two years. So that season's weird, but I mean, the Patriots, Brady, where they won against the Rams 13-3 was kind of the last, like kind of just a guy. Like, you know, but I think Foles is a good answer. Yeah, but in that though, but he's still Tom Brady, right? Like, I guess, he's still got this. Yeah. Right. I mean, that year that Peyton Manning was so awful in 2015 where they had to park him to just hope he could come back in the playoffs and give them something, even with him being bad and he was throwing them frisbees, right? They were still some comeback wins early in that season on the strength of he's still Peyton Manning, right? Like there was still a magic that he could dial up. But the AFC, there's a high probability of a dude or a younger or a young guy, like pulling this off in this. Josh Allen to be who is, you know, I was going to say it feels unfair to be like, to be what we say Josh Allen is. What we're asking Josh Allen to do is things that we've seen Josh Allen do before, but are unfair to perhaps ask somebody to do all the time. Right. I mean, this is kind, but this is like, to your point, this is kind of might be 94, 95. It could be. This might be the gap without Mahomes to you got, you got to get your title now or who, you know, who knows what the way these teams are constructed. Right. So how about this? And I think this is the best way to think about it in that context. Forget about blame, forget about fault, forget about culpability, forget about where you're supposed to be in a given point in time. Just straight ahead. If you go and do it, I would recommend you do it when the number one seed in your conference is quarterback by Bonix. Right. Like I would recommend that now be the time that you go ahead and do it. Because the one thing that Josh Allen does have in common with Lamar Jackson is in the end, you could make a lot of arguments about Lamar and some of these games and you could say that he was not the reason that Baltimore lost. But the indisputable fact was that he was not the reason why they won. And as of now, Josh Allen has not been the reason that the Buffalo Bills have won the AFC. He is certainly not the reason they lost the 13 second game. I have a law on it was, but he was not the reason that they won that game either. Right. Now's the time. Can you get this done? Can you make this happen? I don't think that there is truly any more compelling storyline left in this. This is it. Can the big galoot galoot it all the way and get them to the Super Bowl? If he looks like he did those points in Jacksonville, right? He's he's so much fun. Right. I mean, like whether or not it's the best, you know, but when he is running around, you know, putting the cape on, it's about as fun as it gets. So here's the thing to me. I test number one. I test quarterback of all time is John Elway. Right. And I've had people try to make the point to me when they come back around on it. They're like, well, Aaron Rodgers, I'm like, now, if Aaron Rodgers ain't look like that, they're like, well, Aaron Rodgers, he's only one inch shorter and the same. Wait, I hear what you're saying. Aaron Rodgers wasn't good. Did get dragged by the Yankees. So how about this? Aaron Rodgers didn't get drafted number 25. If Aaron Rodgers looked like John Elway. One one one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's there's it doesn't matter what, right? But Josh Allen really got drafted on looks the part. It was in spite of his actual performance where he wasn't even all conference in the Mountain West. It was in spite of it. Josh Allen looked so much bigger than John Elway. Yeah. While doing reasonably similar things. Yeah, there's a big difference between 6'3 and 6'5, nearly 6'6. Yeah, he doesn't he's not as fluid an athlete as Elway was, right? And it doesn't look as easy or the ball doesn't quite explode out of his hand in the way that it did out of Elway. But when this dude is rolling, man, it's just like. What do you do? What what what in the world again? He's not doing a QB sneak for 10 yards. I still get that bay in it, bay in it. It was it was it was absurd. But this is if Josh Allen wins this, it'll be great for all parties involved because there's really the only true reason to root against him is some measure of hating, right? Like like that's that's all we've got in this. But I tell you, they almost lost it. And in that loss, they coach almost lost his job. Speaking of coaches and jobs that can be lost. It's hard for me to call this shocking news because it is not really news. It's a bit of a milk toast as far as news goes, but still is a bit shocking. Adam Schafter is reporting. And again, this is no knock on him, right? This is just where the game goes. Brian, he is reporting that the Packers and Matt LaFleur are expected to work on a contract extension. And that's news about something that hasn't happened. Right. Yes. That's news about the reporting of a potential transaction that is not transacted. Right. It's not even just news about something that hasn't happened. It's news that something might happen, but we're not 100 percent sure. Right. Which is not exactly news. But it is interesting. Yeah, not a knock on Schafter, right? But it's interesting because it raises some interesting questions about like what in the world are the Packers doing? OK, so this is where I'm standing. Right. We are now a good almost 48 hours removed from that game on Saturday night where the Packers fell apart in the second half against the Bears and Caleb Williams. Hey, man, do you notice this, by the way, about Caleb Williams? Well, I guess, OK, let me get to that later. Let me get to that later. I'm going to hold that. We're going to talk about some playoff stuff in a little bit. I'm going to hold that when we get there. OK. I'm excited. I don't even know where you're going with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But this is this is what I'm saying. We went into this game with LaFleur's job being a little shaky. Right. We mentioned this last show and I noticed that apparently we got some pushback on the internet about the fact that LaFleur's job might be in danger, even though people have been talking about this. Yes, we don't make up these rumors. We're not. Yeah. Yeah. Like the reason I said that I thought I thought that we were operating with a common understanding of things, right? Right. But apparently we were not. OK, then it went the way it went. And now everybody's talking about, hey, you got to fire this guy for this one, right? Or that's the internet chatter that goes. And I see this among reporters, not just the people I know actually exist, not just stuff on the internet, right? And so then it goes. And my question is if you were the Packers and there was any doubt about whether or not you were going to keep LaFleur going into Saturday after Saturday, you fire. Like that loss was that loss was a fireable offense. There are up 13 points of less than seven minutes to go in the fourth quarter. Right. Right. Like you don't get fired for every fireable offense. But if you were trying to decide if you were going to fire him, there's there's nothing else for us to do here. You don't even have to let him go talk to the team. Yeah. Right. Or like when he goes in and talks to the team, you know, he gets in there and is like. And I will take with me the memories because it's over, dog. It's over. That is it. Now we come back Monday morning and they're saying, oh, well, you know, they, you know, we expect that they'll work out, work on it. Oh, no, not even work out. Work on. How hard is this? Like I got none of this. What have you been? He has one year left in this contract. What do you what have you been doing all year? Yeah, right. Because you and his agent ain't never throwing no numbers out there. Nobody nobody's had any conversation about this. This is what you expect me to believe. No, the only thing that I could glean from this is that the Packers are in a situation where they know they probably want to move on to another coach. Now, I tend to think he's a better coach than they do. But I see what the problem is. Right. You know, like I see what the issue is. If you decide to go ahead and make that move. There are obvious glaring issues. Yeah. This is also the same person who made Malik Willis will go real in a fell quarterback. This is what I'm saying. This is kind of like what happened with James Franklin at Penn State. Like I don't think you're going to get a better coach, but I see why you did it. Right. Right. You know, now maybe they did in Penn State, but you get my point, right? I get why you might have made this move. I can only assume that what the Packers are doing is recognizing that the floor, if they fire him, will work somewhere next year. This isn't some do, but it's like, you know, maybe I'll take a year off and go do some television. Oh, does he 38? I mean, actually not sure. Like it's just hard for me to tell what's white boy get a fade. You know what I'm saying? And got like a try to be cool dude, mustache. He could be anywhere in the age continuum. Forty six. He's forty six. Yeah. He's older than me. Oh, here's what makes that. Oh, you know what? You know, I remember he's older. Do you remember the stories about how he was a Brian Kelly's graduate assistant? Oh, that's right. That's right. Central Michigan. He got invited to the party. He and solid where they both were there. The ones where they were valiant cars. Yeah, they invited to the party. They thought they were invited to the party, but they were. They were. They were. Ballet cars. They were Prince Ikeem and Semi. But just for some context, you know, Sean McVeigh still isn't forty. Yeah, he turns forty in two weeks. Yeah, he turns forty in two weeks. He's seven years older or younger than that. LaFleur. But anyway, they must be planning to trade him. Or are leaving. Are we opening the market to trade him? Yeah, put themselves into a position where if somebody wants LaFleur, then they can get some picks out of the situation. Right. Baltimore is a team that we look at. The Falcons got to be like, damn, because if you want to pick, you probably want a first round pick and we ain't got one of those right now. Um, otherwise this, this, this doesn't add up. Right. Now, the biggest loser in this scenario that the Packers have pointed out, or maybe just a winner and it goes a little farther down the line is John Harbaugh. When John Harbaugh got fired, Adam Shepter told the world that nine teams had reached out to team Harbaugh. At the time, there were only six job openings. I think there's a pretty easy math on who those three teams are. Yeah. Who you got? The Giants. Oh, the team don't not teams without openings. Oh, yeah. When I was OK, so the Packers at the time with Packers, the Dolphins at the time. I see I was going Packers Eagles bills. Oh, yeah. But the Dolphins had a coach. That's true. Dolphins did have a coach. Yeah. Yeah. So like, but all of these are on the port. The Eagles. That's the tricky one, right? Yeah, we talked about that earlier, but we already we already got into that. Don't need to do that again. Um, but Harbaugh has all this leverage. Like, apparently he's got a list of demands that is starting to float around and who has any idea if those demands are true. That could be just as easily leaked out by a team that is trying to poison the well and make people not want him. But in the end, he is accomplished. His teams have been consistently good. He is basically thought of as a guy that people can get along with and an ego that will allow him to put people in places and let them do their jobs. Like, I see all the reasons why people would be interested in hiring him. But did you did you see what just happened with the last team that he coached with one of the three best quarterbacks in the NFL? And no matter what you might say about Lamar Jackson and what the word on the street might be and so forth and so on, he's Lamar Jackson. And he's the guy that saved Harbaugh's job in the first place. However many years ago, it's been now, right? Seven going on eight. OK, he's the guy who did that. Harbaugh is also 64 years old. Are you guys sure about this? Like, is this terribly different than hiring P. Carroll? If you had done that a couple of years ago. And I want to be clear about something. P. Carroll is a lot older than John Harbaugh, right? But at this point, right? This is my tenure age gap between them. One Super Bowl about a decade ago. Yeah. Feuded with his at the time star quarterback. Yeah. Um, struggled to hire and promote coordinators. Yep. Kind of gradual decline. Kind of gradual decline. And, um, yeah. And then had, you know, epic playoff failures and high leverage moments. Yep. And by the way, when I mean gradual decline, is that even in the record, right? But it's in things around the edges of the program, right? That's what all the reports that you get now about Harbaugh in Baltimore is it just kind of frayed around the edges. He didn't lose the team, right? Like it wasn't all over. Now it is possible that, and I've seen this example be made about Harbaugh. And maybe it's like Andy Reed. And you just need to leave this one place and then go somewhere else and restart. Couple of things. One, I have a much clearer idea of what the Andy Reed football philosophy is. And, you know, what he's bringing. I'm not saying Harbaugh doesn't have these things. I'm saying I don't have as clear an idea about it. Number two, John Harbaugh is 64 today. Andy Reed is 67 today. Andy Reed made that job change 13 years ago. It was 54. You see what I'm saying? Like we're not talking about the same thing under those circumstances, but he's such a great fit for the giants. You know what I mean? Like he's exactly the kind of guy that giants want. I understand if you are an organizational dumpster fire and you're like, we have to get an adult in here. Yes. I understand the logic behind it. But like if you have a three, let's say you need a two year rebuild to find your quarterback and turn over your roster. Not the guy. Yeah. And even if he was, he'd be 66. Right. But hold on. Let's think about this because what John Harbaugh never had to do was rebuild. Right. Right. He has never had to start it from the bottom when they fired Brian Billet. That team wasn't great, but it still had, I want to say four Hall of Famers, right? And a top three GM and Ozzie Newsom. Right. A whole thing. Got Ozzie Newsom. You had Ray Lewis. You had Ed Reed. You had Trel Suggs. They had to pick the go-to quarterback. No. I'd been retired at the end of 07. Gotcha. But point has been made. Yeah, correct. Everybody sees what we're talking about. Now, if we look at the job openings that are there, oh, the Jets, not an opening. That's wild. Yes. The Giants kind of sort of rebuild, but I guess it depends on, it depends on how far along you feel like their quarterback is and how long he's got to go before he gets his egg cracked. The Browns, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't think that's a win for either side of this if it comes to it. Well, the Packers maybe. The Packers are the team where Harbaugh would have had all the leverage, right? The word on the street was something he won like $20 million a year. This is not, this is not Sean Payton, right? This is not a guy that I look at like, yeah, that's the one that we. And be clear, Sean Payton, clear foibles, but someone with a clear football philosophy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like when you bring him in, everything is different in a way that is not quite the same. Like Harbaugh's not that kind of personality. And he still has Bill Parcells putting him over. Yes. But John is not his brother. Right. Now you tell me that we're coming in with his brother and we're going to turn this thing over. And by the way, he never really had to, he didn't have to rebuild with the 49ers. No. He didn't have to rebuild with the Chargers. He went places with at least a quarterback. All right, I can do something with this. You know, if you take John Harbaugh to Atlanta, that becomes interesting because they don't need a rebuild, but they also don't really have a quarterback. Right. And the one that they might got got one leg. Yeah. You know, he's not going to Tennessee. Right. Right. Like that's not going to be a place that he winds up. That reaps of Clint Kubiak, you know, just like the next person in the McVeigh, Shana Hantra, just getting another job. Now, I bet you could get Mark Davis to give you a go zillion dollars, but oh, all money ain't good money, baby. You know what I mean? The Cardinals. The Cardinals are very confusing because I don't know. They don't, they have a quarterback, but they don't want them. Right. And also sneaky dysfunctional franchise. Yeah. And I don't know where they're supposed to get this other court. Like they're doing a lot of things that your boy don't understand is all I'm saying. I don't know where this place is. That's the John Harbaugh away from making this go. And how many double digit losses. How many leads have they blown? Like what have these playoff scenarios been under Lamar Jackson? He's been right there with him. You know where the best scenario for a hypothetical John Harbaugh is? The Ravens. Or, or, or the Steelers. Yeah. Like, I do like the idea of them just trading coaches. You know, there's, there's so many interesting ideas there, right? Because each is the kind of coach that the other franchise is into. Right. Right. Right. They fit each other's, this stability, right? You know, there's going to be some look professional as perhaps, but it's going to be a pretty steady ship as it goes across the board. And by the way, all of this is why Nope, the Steelers are not moving off or no Mike Tomlin. Right. Like that's, let's think of a higher shot Harbaugh. I don't know, but hey, we're saying this before the Steelers play this game against the Houston Texas. So we don't know exactly what any of this could be. But Harbaugh has all the leverage and I just want to know who are the people that are sitting in there and being like, wait a minute now, wait a minute. Cause look, the whole league did that would build Belichick. And I think as of now, those decisions have been vindicated. Now the difference is Belichick has a clear football philosophy and that may have been the problem. Right. Particularly a philosophy on talent evaluation. His philosophy is, I know what I'm doing. Yup. Which is. The philosophy which works, which works really well for, you know, about 18 years. Yes. Until it didn't. Okay. So let's think about this with Philadelphia, former Eagles assistant John Harbaugh. Okay. Let's just say the Eagles, look, man, they got to fire. The day is going to come where they got to fire a serianity after going like 12 and 5, 11 and 6. Right. I think we talked about that before. Like that's, that's going to happen at some point. Could Harbaugh would not be a terrible fit there, but is Harbaugh trying to work in a situation where how he got all the power and is running the roster because it sounds like Harbaugh wants to go somewhere where he's got all that power. Which is also another interesting, you know, decision to give to a 64 year old. Yeah man. Like this is, it's an awkward time. It's the greatest time in the world for him to get fired, but it's not a great time for him to get hired. Like, I don't, we're going to learn a lot about what all these front offices truly prioritize in this moment. And I would say, for example, if you're John Harbaugh and the Giants want to hire you, that is an indictment of you. Like nothing about the Giants hiring of late says, oh boy, they know what they're doing. You know what I mean? Like Al Davis used to mess up a lot in hiring, but he used to try to hire a lot of guys that turned out to be good. You know what I mean? Like if Al Davis wanted to hire you, you were 32, it might have meant something. People just didn't want to go work for him. The ones who could. But if the people who brought you Ben McAdoo, uh, past Shermer, uh, Brian Debo, Judge Joe Brown, Joe Judge, that was his name. Um, if they're like, yo, we see something in you. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what that's supposed to mean? Pottner, you know, what you, we're kind of, we're kind of, what you think about me right now? I'm just going to point out for the record that you insulted Jim, John Harbaugh in the same way you backhanded complimented Wayne Kiffin. I did. I did. It's actually the shining thing on the laying Kiffin resume is that Al Davis thought he might got something like that. That really is the thing, right? And then by the way, one year later, get this man out of my sight. Oh, I hate laying Kiffin so much. Every Friday from six to seven 30, it's NBA happy hour on fan duel, your pregame for the weekend. 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Who is the biggest winner and loser from these three games? Okay, now out of these three games, I think, well the biggest loser I think again is back on the floor who we just got to be talking about. Justin Herbert close. Yeah, if I say the runner up, I think is Justin Herbert. Where I want to be fair to him though, right? Their tackles have been out all year. He's got a hand so busted up. Can't take snaps from under center. That's going to be the take over today. Yes, it is. First things first is this is the already made topic. Yes. First things first is Justin Herbert situation. I think Herbert again wound up in a situation where we said with Josh Allen before, I do not think he is the reason that they lost that game, but it is very clear that he is not the reason why they won that game. So like he is a runner up there in the loser category. Honestly, the winner, it's like it's either Caleb Williams or it's Drake May. And I mean that in the sense that obviously a win legitimizes both of them. And for May, even though May has been better this year, Caleb Williams felt like he was on the clock this year. Right. You know, like the way that article that came out at the beginning of the year. Yeah, the Tyler Dunn piece. Yeah. Right. And by the way, it looks to me and I could be wrong. I don't know these people. Okay. I don't think those people like him, but it is reaching the point where it doesn't really matter. Right. Like he is, he had a jump on my back performance in that game and he is so good when it gets to jump on my back point. Right. Like what Johnson has gotten out of him is we're not taking the sacks. That by itself is a giant improvement for him. We took something like 40 fewer sacks this season than he did last season. And man, he's got an arm. Right. When this is just get back there and move around a little bit, see what might happen. He was making throws that I could not believe. My goodness. I couldn't believe the stuff that he was doing. And so now he's skipped over the question. Well, maybe when will he win a playoff game question? That one is already answered. You know what I mean? They get a whole playoff game again. Right. Right. They play the Rams. Yeah. Like, you know, and that one, hey, the Rams just struggled against an eight and nine team. Shout out to the little homie. Yeah. They did the best he could and it was pretty good. Like, where'd it go, Bryce? Yo, just don't take no more pictures with Mina. That just did that. Messed everything up for you. Man, that was a bit of a tough beat. All right, well, let's transition a bit of more of a serious topic. Trump administration says they will send hundreds more federal agents to manyapolis over the week following the weekend to sport ice agents after, of course, the shooting of a woman there. But what's your reaction to what's going on in Minnesota? All right, man. So this is my thing about ice in there. And you know, I think most of the top line things have been said by people already. I think observing what happened is fairly obvious what it was. I'm a bit out of the business of saying obvious things at this point, right? Like, that's not the direction that I want to go in. And generally speaking, I'm out of the business of watching people get shot. Okay. I'm not like deep in the like, I don't know the way to put it, but you know, when we stopped out the police killing people all the time before we got bored with it, I used to get in there and like, watch these videos and, you know, get in and investigating. It was like, I was trying to prove a point, like argue the truth of the matter to people to win the argument until realizing that the particulars didn't matter. The particulars weren't the point, right? And there were all these little details that you could come up with that you were trying to explain if it was justified or not. The laws were engineered in such a way to where this question never really came up. And the real issue was just about whether or not people possess the requisite level of empathy for black people under these circumstances, right? And I felt like that was the fight that was being had at that time was a fight about humanity. And there was always a little subtle undercurrent of the discussion, which basically implied that white people didn't care that much if white people got shot by the cops either, right? Like the argument would wind up being from some people. And I'd seen this often where black folks would bring up these numbers about black people getting killed by the cops or what happens when black people get caught by the cops. And the response to it was, well, this doesn't just happen to black people, which is a really interesting answer for people to have, right? But it was the truth. All these laws and the way they go apply to if you smoke a white person too. And they were on occasion smoking white people and getting away with it. Like, you know, these, these same things were going on. It's got to like a larger police state sort of issue that again, I don't think we ever resolved. We just kind of moved on and talked about something else. Well, now we're dealing with a different macro issue on top of it. And that issue was ICE. Okay. La Migra as, as Nuestros Hermanos call it, right? The immigration police that we have, which is a force that's been around for a while, but a force that gets beefed up because they need more people to do the job. Ryan, I don't know how much subway ride you're doing, but I've seen the advertisements on there, right? You know, like they out here, I'm just saying that they looking for ICE agents, not in the places where you get your best and brightest. I mean, there, there's articles and facts, figures about the people they're finding. They're terrible. They're to put it succinctly and bluntly. They're overweight and they can't read. Right. And this is not, which is at minimum, not great qualifications for cops. Yeah. Yeah. These are not, this is not a generalization that he's making here. Like, have you ever seen cocaine cowboys? Yes. Well, it's a documentary about just kind of the building of modern Miami basically, but they made a point that as Miami got bigger and bigger and the drug game got bigger and bigger, they needed more and more police, but they were unable to find police that met the minimum standards that they had for the police force. Like for example, it started with, you couldn't be a cop if you had ever used drugs. Okay. Well, that standard was too high. And then it got to be, well, you haven't used drugs in the last two years and that standard was too high. And it got to be, can you pass a drug test? And that standard was too high. And it basically got to, are you high right now? Because this is what happens when you need to build up the staff of an organization very quickly. You cannot really have standards. Now this gentleman that shot this woman in Minnesota, I don't know how long he's been there. I mean, for all I know, he is a decorated police officer somewhere else and then wound up here. If I had to guess, that's probably not the case. Right. So what we have is a force that has a lot of not actual law enforcement offices. Right. Or at least. Substitute teachers at best. Yes. Yes. Newbies, like volunteers, whatever it is, right? But these are not, this ain't our best that's out here. Okay. So you're taking these people and again, I'll let you make your own conclusions about what happened with the shooting itself. What I will point out though, is that the dude the whole way was filming it himself with his own cell phone. Okay. And when it came time to shoot the woman, passes the cell phone from one hand to the other hand so he can use his trigger hand to shoot into the woman's car and then calls her a bitch after it's said and done. Okay. The reason that this cat is filming this, this isn't a body cam that I'm talking about. Right. It's not a body cam in the car or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Something that exists. The opted into filming this video. Yeah. Something that exists to document, right? Something that exists in case something like this happens. No man, they out here making content. You see how crazy, you want to sound crazy that is? Like this is, this is like, if there's any reflection of the madness of the world that we live in right now, is that somebody's out here making content and did not think to himself, Hey, I maybe shouldn't shoot somebody right now because I'm taking a video of it. Not just somebody might be taking a video of it. You never know if somebody's looking. I'm taking a video of it and still shot this woman. What? Like, like, like, like, like, like, what exactly is it that we're doing? And so you can send more agents up there because it is getting kind of cracking, right? Like this is, I mean, they're big. That's what happens when, obviously, when a situation gets escalated. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's kind of a situation for road making, but yes, it is an escalating situation. Okay. But think about this too. This is the third high profile shooting that I can think of that has happened in Minnesota in the last, I guess we'll call it 10 years or so. Right. Okay. So, you know, shooting, police violence situation, I don't know, you know, the work officer involved, is that how they put it? Yes. One of them obviously is George Floyd. Right. Um, this one is this one, but the first one, I don't know if people realize this, you know, the police don't never get in trouble for shooting people. Okay. I believe at the time that there had been, there's been one incident in the state of Minnesota where a police officer had, you know, I think I don't remember if it was brought under indictment, conviction, whatever it is for shooting a civilian. And it was this one and it was when it was a Somali police officer. Okay. And a woman walked around to his side of the car and he turned the shot. Okay. And they got him for that one. Now I've been paying attention to people getting shot by the police all the time, along with living a life where I'm trying not to get shot by the police. That sort of situation, I guarantee you, if it's me, ain't nobody getting indicted. Okay. You walked up over that man's shoulder. He feared for his life. Right. Turn the shot. That's this situation to me, Ryan, is like, it was a white woman. Important to know. So this situation is like the in between of the two, right? It looks fairly indefensible, but also has a combination of that. Maybe you shouldn't have do that thing that people easily jump on. I'm not saying that's true. I'm just saying that's the thing that people easily jump on. But it's also a white woman who wound up getting shot. So like somebody who doesn't necessarily fit the profile of who gets shot by the police when people start shrugging their shoulders, right? That whole jumbled mess of things. I doubt that there's going to be any punishment that's laid down, especially because the FBI say that they want to look into it. And that seems potentially self-serving, I think is the fairest way to put it. What that might be. But bottom line is we are at a place in our society, in this society where somebody will shoot you while making a video of it and not think twice about putting down the fucking profile. All right, Bo, get the voicemails. Time to read back a show favorite. What's up? What's up? Happy New Year to everyone. This is DJ Mike Kipman. I got the deal. I got to tell y'all. 25 is over. 2026 is here. It's a new year. I got the deal. I want to say I want the man to be man. There's three things I need y'all to do first. Get out to my house. You got to get out to my house. Get out to basement, pay your own bill. You should have your own car and you should have your own apartment because you don't have your own apartment. One would can't put you out. You could go to your own place. That's the problem, man. You're living with these women that put you out. It's time for you to be man. Man, you got to get out of them damn Jersey. You ain't Roger Starback. You ain't Group Pearson. You ain't Group and you ain't Tom Landry. You're walking around with them damn Jersey. Get out them damn Jersey. You don't play football. Be a man. Get a shirt and a tag. Get a job. Okay. I need all you men to go get. If you don't know how to fix nothing and not a damn thing, go get a hammer, a screwdriver, a plier. Keep it around the house. 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But what is happening out there on the frontier that they get all these Cooper, DeGene, Dream teams and are beating everybody else up? I know those schools that are only shown in town in those states, but everybody has nice facilities now. How are they getting players or coaches and destroying everybody? Thanks, man. Talk to you later. All right. So I think there are a couple of things here. We are stretching the extent of my powers, but I'm a go for this, right? Number one is we talked about with Cooper, DeGene, who's from South Dakota. Ain't nobody can't nobody tell you you can't play corner out there because it's only y'all playing corner. You see what I'm saying? Like, like you got to you got to you got to rise up in a different sort of way because there's nobody to trample your self-esteem and tell you that you not good enough. Right? Like, y'all, like I've said this many times, all them super cold white boys, man, they tend to be places super cold and full of places super cold and full of white boys. Right? That's that's that's a big part of it. Number two, I'm going to just throw this out here for you. If a brother wanted so bad that he going to go to Montana to get it, he ain't going out there to fuck around. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you wanted so bad that you willing to go out there, you mean fitness with a D. So I imagine that you get some like cold beast on that front, right? Or, you know, a lot of can't go back all stars. Now you got to go all the way out there to Minnesota and Montana to make it happen is going to be that. And then there's number three. And this is the part that gets forgot. Okay. Montana football may not be a big deal to you, but Montana football is a big deal in Montana. Right? There are people at Montana and Montana state who really, really care about the football. And some of them may not got all the bread, but they got some bread, right? They got a little money. The forces of competition is still going to be there. They got a level at which they can be good. And once they decide they're going to be good, they're going to invest in what level of being good they can wind up getting. It's catch cheating in Chukko, baby. People in this country love football everywhere. All sorts of football at every level. People love football. Yeah. And if you set it up in such a way where the state is just big enough to have two teams, even if it's just two teams that play on the same level. Okay. Now the economics of it comes into play. Now they battling, you see what I'm saying? And now it goes, right? You know, and then, you know, there's the other part, man. So, Orri White boy is up the way. He's for what I've seen on the internet and in documentaries. Yeah. I mean, I've seen Yellowstone. Yeah. They're real mad up there. Y'all ain't, y'all are not here for being tread upon. Is that, is that, is that how they put it? I believe that, I believe that is what that has been Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Buddy. And I tell you this too, you better not try to carjack none of them. Oh no. They're ready. All right. We got two more. Hi, Bo. This is Bo from Tokyo. Long time first I wanted to call about that throwback Tuesday with the USC Texas game. I am an Oregon alum. I was in school for that 2005 season. And of course the Pac-10 at the perfect round. Robin series at that time. So we played USC. That was a huge game. Tickets were students at the lineup for tickets. And there was a mile long for that. And that was dropped on Tuesday or Wednesday that week. And then we got our doors blown off 45-13. And sitting from the student section, seeing Reggie Bush in person was not there. 2005 for the younger viewers was also when YouTube came out. And one of the first things we went to see on YouTube was the Reggie Bush high school highlights. I think those are probably still up in those are still a treat. But as an Oregon fan, seeing Reggie Bush play in person and then the next year seeing Adrian Peterson, members and boys in the college game at a university that's supposed to be injecting all this money is completely unclear. We did have a squad in 2005. We went 10 and one, actually 10 and two with the offseason lost to both Reggie Bush and Adrian Peterson. I guess that's how it goes. Thanks. Love the show. Yeah, boy. Like that was the thing I was he said before I could that Oregon team was actually pretty good. I mean, those early, you know, mid 2000s Oregon teams. Yeah. I mean, they should have won the national title in 07. Yeah. Yeah. Till Dennis Dixon got hurt. Yeah. But he also brought up something that was real. It was the Reggie White YouTube take. Reggie Bush. And Reggie Bush, big difference. And although can you imagine if there was a high school Reggie White take? No, no. But there was also the Noelle Devine. Yes, which came out around a similar time. And that was comedy, like literal comedy. It was like watching I job off of what you would call it, James Bond in a good way though. Yeah. All right, Bo. Here's our last one. Hey, well, my name is Will from Oklahoma City. I was just calling. So one of my favorite bits on the show is say, people whose names may not match exactly what you're expecting. So, for example, like better reserve chair Jerome Powell would be one. But I want to make a submission. I found a new one the other night. So I'm pretty plugged in with the NBA and I'd heard this name floating around during like, I don't know, I guess whenever this dude got drafted or just here and there. But I'm watching the Thunder Jazz the other night. And this is the first time I'd ever seen Bryce Sensible. And I was just saying I was not what I expected. Love the show. Keep up the good work. Also, shout out White Monty. I got an uncle that's White Monty. Actually, I got to say, Bryce Sensible is checking in exactly as I thought. Really? Because every sense of Bob ever heard of is a professional athlete and they are black. That was one that played in the NFL and went to Carolina named Gerald Sensible. He is good friends with my buddy Michael Felder. And I'm just here to tell you, there's no question about where Gerald Sensible falls in line. Also, I feel like we have taken Bryce. You have taken, I mean, that might be a two America's taken Bryce. Ah, you got a good point. You got a good point. You know what? He's Bryce with an eye and not a Y. That's a good counter. So I can see, but yeah, the Sensible, I can see being ours. By the way, I meant to bring up White Jerome Powell in my last second. Yeah, he's in the news because word on the street is that Trump is trying to put this man, is the chairman of the Federal Reserve and he's not even trying to put up an indictment for like actually stealing money. It's for a renovation of a building, right? Which is ironic. Also given, you know, that's a, that's a, that's a great point. Like anytime something like that happens, I can't like, I'm like, does Trump remember that Jerome Powell is who he is, right? Or is he assuming it's another Jerome and therefore he's just going with the standard playbook and said, Trump, he's trying to throw white people in jail too. You know what I'm saying? He's, he's the guy that's like, I'm not racist. I just hate peace. But hey, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on The Right Time. We do this four days a week. Ryan Brumley handles everything behind the scenes. Thank you, sir. 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