Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me!

WWDTM: Taimane

47 min
Oct 12, 20256 months ago
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Summary

Wait Wait Don't Tell Me recorded a live episode in Honolulu, Hawaii, featuring ukulele virtuoso Taimane as the main guest. The show covered weekly news stories including government shutdown airport disruptions, Taylor Swift's new album, chocolate shortages affecting Halloween candy, and various other current events through the show's signature comedic news quiz format.

Insights
  • Government workforce disruptions have immediate cascading effects on critical infrastructure like air traffic control, forcing creative workarounds like pilot-to-pilot coordination
  • Celebrity influence extends to product innovation, with major brands like M&Ms reformulating products due to commodity shortages rather than consumer demand
  • Niche cultural expertise (like birding communities) now has enough online organization to publicly critique mainstream media representations in real-time
  • Social bonding research suggests people derive more enjoyment from mundane activities when done with others, challenging traditional entertainment industry assumptions
  • Emerging wellness trends like coffee raves represent a shift toward sober social experiences among younger demographics
Trends
Government shutdown impacts on essential services and infrastructure resilienceCommodity price volatility forcing consumer product reformulation and ingredient substitutionOnline community mobilization around niche interests (birding, mall dreams) creating micro-influencer movementsSober social experiences and wellness-focused entertainment gaining mainstream adoptionCelebrity-driven product innovation and cross-industry collaborationAging population adopting recreational drugs at increasing ratesUnderground tourism and alternative venue experiences (salt mine amusement parks)Relationship psychology research challenging conventional wisdom about conflict resolutionBiotech advancement in xenotransplantation (pig-to-human organ transplants)Renewable energy overtaking fossil fuels as primary global energy source
Topics
Government Shutdown Impact on Air Traffic ControlCocoa Shortage and Food Industry ReformulationTaylor Swift Album Release and Media CoverageUkulele Performance and Classical Music InnovationBirding Community Standards in Media RepresentationHallmark Card Controversy and Brand PositioningCoffee Raves and Sober Social MovementsSenior Citizens and Substance Abuse TrendsRenewable Energy Market DominanceXenotransplantation Medical BreakthroughsOnline Community Formation Around Shared DreamsMiniature Golf History and Cultural EvolutionCelebrity Influence on Consumer Product DevelopmentRelationship Psychology and Sleep Conflict ResolutionTariff Impact on Consumer Goods Pricing
Companies
M&M's
Introduced non-chocolate flavored M&Ms due to cocoa shortage, including lemon meringue pie and peanut butter cinnamon...
Hallmark
Released controversial greeting card lines including mahogany collection for Black audiences and birthday cards with ...
Taylor Swift
Released new album with suggestive song about Travis Kelsey that went viral for explicit lyrics comparing his anatomy...
Hallmark Channel
Announced romantic comedy 'Adventures in Love and Birding' that faced criticism from birding community for inaccurate...
Tesla
Unveiled cheaper models of their two most popular electric vehicles in response to market competition
Disney
Once again raised theme park admission prices, continuing trend of price increases
Weber State University
Canceled annual censorship conference after presenters refused to participate under censorship restrictions
Peacock
Streaming platform featuring comedian Nicole Johnson's special 'Love Joy'
PBS
Affiliate announced auction of Bob Ross original oil paintings to compensate for government funding cuts
NPR
Broadcaster of Wait Wait Don't Tell Me news quiz show and parent organization
People
Taimane
Hawaiian ukulele virtuoso who started busking at age 7 in Waikiki, discovered by Don Ho, known for classical and meta...
Peter Segel
Host of Wait Wait Don't Tell Me news quiz show, conducted interviews and moderated panel discussions
Alzo Slade
Public address announcer and fill-in for Bill Curtis, read news quotes and limericks during the episode
Paula Poundstone
Panel member on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me, host of weekly podcast 'Nobody Listens to Paula Poundstone'
Peter Gross
Panel member appearing in improv show 'Two Square' at Cold Town Theatre in Austin, Texas
Joyelle Nicole Johnson
Panel member with special 'Love Joy' on Peacock and album 'Yell Joy' available on streaming platforms
Don Ho
Discovered Taimane busking on Waikiki streets, mentored her for five years until his passing
Taylor Swift
Released new album with controversial song about Travis Kelsey that generated significant media attention
Travis Kelsey
Kansas City Chiefs player and Taylor Swift's fiancé, subject of explicit song lyrics on her new album
Bob Ross
Original oil paintings from his show being auctioned by PBS affiliate to compensate for government funding cuts
Cristiano Ronaldo
Became first billionaire player in soccer history, achieving significant wealth milestone
Dick Van Dyke
Celebrated turning 100 years old, made humorous comment about not making it to his birthday
Quotes
"Pilots have patience. Passengers expect delays."
Nashville International Airport statementEarly in episode during news quiz
"I like to use it to my advantage. Because people don't expect much of you when you say you play the ukulele."
TaimaneDuring Not My Job segment
"Don't go to bed angry. Well, experts say it's often much wiser to let your dispute sit till the morning."
Alzo Slade (news report)During panel questions segment
"People consistently rate common daily activities as more enjoyable when they're interacting with somebody else."
Research findingDuring panel discussion on friendship bonding
"When Reggie, the Australian black swan first showed up in the town, everything was great. He got along with the other swans who lived there, even became a bit of a local tourist attraction."
News report about UK swan incidentDuring lightning fill-in-the-blank game
Full Transcript
Support for NPR and the following message come from the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation. Investing in creative thinkers and problem solvers who help people, communities, and the planet flourish. More information is available at Hewlett.org. From NPR and WBEZ Chicago, this is Wait Wait Don't Tell Me, the NPR news quiz. I'm the man they call when bills had too many mytides. I'm Alzo Slade, and here's your host at the Blaisdell Concert Hall in Honolulu, Hawaii, Peter Sago. Thank you, Alzo. Thank you, everybody. Yes, thank you all so much. We are so glad to be doing our show here in Hawaii, and we are really glad we bought the plane tickets before we lost our federal funding. Later on, we are going to be talking to Yooka Lele Superstar, Taimane, who got her start busking right here in the streets of Waikiki. But first, we want to hear what tune you're playing. Give us a call. The number is 1-888-888-888-924-8924. Now let's welcome our first Lynn Center contestant. Hi, you are on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me. Hi, this is Sydney calling from Olympia, Washington. I love Olympia. One of my favorite places, capital of the state. What do you do there? I like to swim in the Puget Sound, and I take care of my pet shrimp, and I work for the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife. Okay, let me, if I may, rewind a moment. Shrimp as pets? Are they, I've never heard of that. Are they fun pets? Do they like cuddle with you when you're sad? I think so. I like to swim around. They're fun to watch, to buy. Right. So you think as they're swimming around in their tank that they have warm feelings for you? Yeah, exactly. Right. You've never had a shrimp pet, Peter. You don't know. I don't know what it's like. No, I've had shrimp in a different context. Well, Sydney, welcome to the show. Let me introduce you to our panel with us here in Honolulu this week. First up, it's a comedian whose special Love Joy is on Peacock and whose album Yell Joy is available everywhere. It's Joy Yell Nicole Johnson. Hello, Sydney. Next up, an actor and writer who can be seen in the improv show Two Square at the Cold Town Theatre in Austin, Texas, October 17th and 18th. That's our friend Peter Gross. Hello. Hi, Sydney. And a comedian who will be in Alexandria, Virginia at the Birchmere on November 21st and 22nd and host of the weekly podcast, Nobody Listsens to Paula Poundstone. It's Paula Poundstone. Okay. It's not a pet, but I do have a comfort mosquito. Well, Sydney, welcome to the show. You're going to play Who's Alzo this time? Alzo Slade filling it for Bill Curtis is going to read you three quotations from this week's news. If you can correctly identify or explain just two of them, you'll win our prize. Any voice from our show, you might choose in your voicemail. You ready to go? Yes. All right. Your first quote. Is a statement from Nashville International Airport. Pilots have patience. Passengers expect delays. This is in response to the many airport closures and delays happening around the country due to what? The government shutdown. The government shutdown. Yes, you're right. It's okay. You're applauding for her. Not the shutdown. Yes. It's all right. Even though airport disruptions are being caused by unpaid government employees just not showing up for work, the FAA says there's nothing to worry about as long as you and all of your coworkers didn't just fly to the only state in the union you can't drive home from. It started in just one or two airports. Now it's spreading. The delays and cancellations are getting so bad that the only way to get to another state is to sign up for your own state's national guard and wait to be deployed there. Who knew that not paying people would make them not want to work? I know. Strange. One real thing we learned about this week. Some airports like Burbank in California are operating in a condition called air traffic control zero. It's a real thing. And that's a system they put in place where instead of the tower, because there's nobody in the tower, pilots just talk to each other to keep from running into each other and to help land their planes. Right? Okay, but we do that in our cars all the time. Really? Just yelling out the window. You're up. Right. No, just look at this idiot. Go, go, go, go. But on the other hand, you really know we're going to get caught in a situation where the pilots are like, okay, you land. No, you land first. No, you land. Okay. Well, both landed the same time. Ready? Well, they know they were like, sometimes they're like, is there a doctor on the plane? They might be like, is there an air traffic controller on the plane who wants to just like help us not hit another plane? All right, your next quote is a pop superstar singing about a certain attribute of her famous fiance. Do I really have to read this quote? Yes, yes, also. All right, redwood tree, it ain't hard to see. So that's a lyric everybody's talking about from whose new album that came out last week. Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift, yes. Her new album came out once in the show, girl, when they're not talking about how kind of mad the rest of the album is, everybody is talking about how suggestive her song would is. Would. The would in question is not wood as in tree. It's wood as in I would prefer not to hear her saying about Travis Kelsey's junk. It's a real, I listened to that today and it's a real lesson in single entendre. Not the most clever. Yeah, I also don't know if it's a compliment to have your attribute compared to a redwood. Nobody wants to hear like your thing. It's 600 years old and in danger. And you can drive a car through it. I don't think this holds up. I mean, one of the questions is she's the biggest star in the world. She's done this. Is this going to create pressure on all the pop stars now? You know, it's like, Hey, honey, love your new album, but where's the song about my junk? I mean, until she turns on him and then is like the cover of her next double is her with an ax chopping down a ramp. Oh, she's setting it up. She's in love before. Yeah, I also want to say a shout out to Travis for doing his job. Okay, because she a billionaire. Right. That's the only thing she needs from him. And he put it down and you better, you better write a song about it, girl. Yeah, I foolishly thought you meant playing football. That's not no. No, Sydney, are you still with us? Because it's been a while, Sydney, are you out there? I'm here. Oh, I'm so glad. Sydney, your last quote is a warning about this year's Halloween candy. The M&Ms were filled with berry flavored peanut butter. That was a reporter from the Atlantic noting one way candy makers are compensating for a major shortage of what this year? I don't know. Can you give me a hint? Well, what are M&Ms normally filled with? Oh, chocolate chocolate. Yes. A very bad cocoa harvest means chocolate is very expensive right now. So candy makers are swapping in non chocolate ingredients for this year's Halloween candy. M&Ms has a whole new. This is real bakery collection with non chocolate flavors like lemon meringue pie and peanut butter cinnamon roll and the newest flavor, day old bagel. M&Ms put said like old Snickers, like the stuff that they found around and they put inside. I would be honest, I never thought that was really chocolate in there anyway. I'm sure it was plastic. It's like the bear. Yeah, whatever they put in subway bread. And the meat. Yeah, I don't know what this is going to do to Halloween because all the kids I know really like chocolate. This is going to be the first Halloween where kids are going to say trick or treat. And also I'd like a receipt in case I want to return it. Last year, you know, I ran out of candy. You did. And we don't usually get that many kids where I live and but for some reason we did last year and I should move out of that haunted old castle. I ended up, you know, like they kept coming. And so I just, you know, open the refrigerator and, you know, like take a big scoop of hummus and just flicking out a Spider-Man's pillowcase. Yeah. I had a little cousin who, from a baby, didn't like chocolate, but she would open the refrigerator when she was two. She was a toddler and we'd see little fingerprints in the butter. She would eat butter. I would hate a chocolate. I was a butter reader. When I turned four, my parents gave me a pound of butter. As a gift? Yeah, birthday present. And I just ate the sticks like candy bars. And I feel good. Yeah. You feel good. I had a heart attack when I was five. Also, how did Cindy do in our quiz? Beautifully, three out of three. Congratulations, Sydney. Thank you so much for playing, Sydney. This is so fun. Thank you so much. Right now, panel, it is time for you to answer some questions about this week's news. Peter, in a daring new plan to make up for the government funding cuts, a PBS affiliate announced it would be auctioning off what? Grover. No. I mean, it's coming. Auctioning off tote bags that someone touched. I don't know. I'll take a hint. Well, appraisers say that each happy little tree is worth about 10 grand. Bob Ross paintings. Bob Ross paintings. A public TV distribution company is raising money by auctioning off 30 Bob Ross original oil paintings, including his masterpieces, happy little forest, snowy mountaintop, and nude self-portrait with happy big red wood. It's really weird. It's really weird they're selling these paintings. Didn't you always assume they just threw them away after they finished taping? I always wondered what they did with them. And I thought that there was like an Indiana Jones style warehouse of just like thousands and thousands. So if this works, of course, they're going to do more things like that. Next, we'll be funding the distribution of Mr. Rogers' neighborhood by auctioning off his cardigans. Then they'll sell Big Bird's eggs. Then, neighborly for one lucky auction winner, a night of passion with Ken Burns. That takes... Narrated. Narrated by Sam Waterstead. And it takes 12 hours. Coming up, our panelists send their greetings in our Bluff the Listener game called 1-888- Wait, Wait, Wait to Play. We'll be back in a minute with more of Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me from NPO. This message comes from WISE, the app for international people using money around the globe. You can send, spend, and receive an up to 40 currencies with only a few simple taps. Be smart, get WISE. Download the WISE app today or visit WISE.com. Tease and seize apply. Support for NPR and the following message come from the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation. Investing in creative thinkers and problem solvers who help people, communities, and the planet flourish. More information is available at Hewlett.org. NPR News Quiz. I'm Alzo Slade. We're playing this week with Peter Gross, Paula Poundstone, and Joyelle Nicole Johnson. And here again is your host at the Blaisdell Concert Hall in Honolulu, Peter Segel. Thank you Alzo Slade right now. Thank you everybody. Thank you so much right now. It's time for the Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me Bluff the Listener game called 1-888- Wait, Wait to Play Our Game in the Air. Hi, you are on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Hi Peter, this is Alexandra from Maui, Hawaii. Hey Maui. What do you do there on Maui? I'm a tattooer here in Kihe at Paradise Tattoo. Oh wow. Kihe, I know. Been there many a time. I was wondering about this because I saw a tattoo parlor here in Honolulu and I wondered, is your clientele Islanders, Hawaiians, or is it like lots of tourists who are just so taken with the place they come in and get your sea turtle or something like that? It's definitely a mix but sea turtles do pay my bills. Really? That's the thing. Well, welcome to the show Alexandra. It's great to have you on. You're going to play the game in which you have to tell truth from fiction. Alzo, what's the topic? There's Havoc at Hallmark. So Hallmark, you know them. They're known for their heartwarming movies and their greeting cards that somehow know exactly what to say when your uncle retires. Well, this may instead of good tidings, we heard about a controversy brewing at Hallmark. Our panel is going to tell you about it. Pick the one that's telling the truth when the weight-weighter of your choice on your voicemail. You ready to play? Yes. All right, first let's hear from Joelle Nicole Johnson. Most greeting cards simply say get well soon or happy birthday. But the mahogany section of Hallmark greeting cards puts the black back in salutations. That's right. There's a section of Hallmark greeting cards just for black folks with titles such as you got all that black excellence fam. And of course, you're an everyday reminder of ain't God good. Hallmark introduced this niche years ago but the brand went viral after a recent interview with H&G magazine. Turns out the creator and head scribe of the slang is Cody Beckwith of Springfield, Illinois. A whole white man. Cody is a self-described red-head corn-fed friend of Dorothy. That is Mrs. Dorothy Thomas, his next door neighbor who practically raised him and is very black. Beckwith credits Ms. Thomas for everything he knows. Without her, his face will be way less moisturized. When asked for comment, Ms. Dorothy said, Cody always been invited to the cookout especially because I told him how to wash his chicken before he cooked it. Turns out the mahogany line of greeting cards for black clientele created by this white guy from Springfield, Illinois. Your next Hallmark remark comes from Peter Gross. Some of the best recent Hollywood films have captured a gritty nuanced realism. Movies like Nomadland, Uncut Gems, and The Secret Life of Pets 2. Other films miss the mark. This week, the Hallmark Channel announced their new romantic comedy, Adventures in Love and Birding. It's about a single mother who falls in love with an avid birder but apparently the creators of the movie fell in love with inaccurate details about birds. Even the poster of the movie is inaccurate. With one person commenting, I wonder what those two male varied thrushes are talking about. Cry laughing emoji. Get it? Because I sure don't. One member of an LA birding community group was furious at the main character's binoculars commenting, if this guy's a real birder, he would not have those binoculars. Those binoculars are like poroprisms. They are very beginner level. Yikes. I would say somebody needs to get out more but birders are outside all the time so that doesn't really apply. As tempting as it is to make fun of them, I imagine I would feel this way. If somebody tried to make a wait, wait, don't tell me movie. And they had the panelists talking into a Neumann TLM103 microphone as opposed to a Shure SM7B. I mean, can you imagine? A Hallmark Channel romance movie with a birding theme angers the birding community. Your last wholesome controversy comes from Paula Poundstone. Birthday girl, 13-year-old Janie Winschel of Lincoln, Massachusetts, tore open the envelope of a Hallmark card that accompanied a brightly wrapped six-pack of flavored lip gloss gifted from a friend. The front of the card had a picture of a young girl's face covered in a thick facial mask and inside the card in large balloon font were the words, congratulations, you're old. When I saw the card I was outraged said Janie's mother, Candice Winschel. I checked out Hallmark's website and found that this horrible card is part of a new line of cards that are just disturbing. On one, a black and white photo of a bedraggled looking girl leading a donkey by a rope opens to reveal the words, get your ass moving, 14 is coming. Another bears a cover photo of a young girl walking a dirt road surrounded by wild flowers and on the inside says, do something good this year, your regret box is almost full. One cover bears the words, age is just a number. An inside is a photograph of a slack-jawed preteen with a word bubble saying, but oh my god. All right, it's Alexandra. There was controversy at Hallmark this week. Was it from J.L. Nicole Johnson, the mahogany line of cards for a black audience, turns out were created by this red-haired white guy who just channeled his neighbor from Peter Gross, a birding romance in which the birding community did not fall in love with or from Paula Poundstone, a line of birthday cards for 13-year-olds implying they're getting old. Which of these was the real story out of Hallmark this week? Well, I know birders do take birds very seriously. They do. So I'm going to go with B. You're going to go with B. You're going to go with Peter's story about the birding movie that angered the birders. All right. Well, here's somebody with some insight into the real story. The Hallmark channel released the poster and immediately birders had a lot of comments and critiques for how the birds were being portrayed in the poster. That was Antonia Serrajito, a host of LAS who reported on the real story, the birding movie that the birders did not like. Congratulations, Alexandra. You got it right. You're in point for Peter Gross. You've won our prize, The Voice of Your Choice and Your Voice Prize. Thank you so much. Thank you, and thank you for playing with us today. All right. We'll be together like birds of a feather, LAS, some things are meant to be. And now the game we call Not My Job. In Hawaii, the ukulele is the king of instruments, and our guest, Taimane, is ukulele royalty. She started busking on the streets of Honolulu at the age of five, where she was discovered by the legendary Don Ho himself. She's since been named Hawaiian performer of the year among many other honors. Taimane, welcome to Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Thank you for having me, Taimane. It's a pleasure to have you. We got to get this settled. We were talking before the correct Hawaiian pronunciation of the instrument of which you are, our master is ukulele. Ukulele. You got it. How about if you give it the appropriate respectful name, and I just continue to screw it up? Because that's... You know, we could do that for probably like 10 to 15 minutes. We can do that. We can do that. That's really great. So you and I mentioned this, started playing in the ukulele at a very young age, right? Yes. I started when I was five years old. I'm born and raised here in Honolulu, Hawaii. And it's kind of a very common, yeah, 808, 808. But it's a very common instrument here in the islands, almost like how a guitar is in every house. The ukulele is in almost every house here in the islands. And did you like, was that like something you were drawn to, or you was like somebody put one of these in your hand? Yeah, well, I loved performing. Even before I got getting this when I was five, I just, I would put shows together for my dog and my parents and my house. And I just loved being on stage. I loved making people happy. And so my dad gave me my very first ukulele when I was five. Again, it's just a very common instrument here in Hawaii. And it was just the instrument that I grew up learning how to express myself. Right. And I so happened to love classical music, metal music, but it's all played on this instrument. I want to get to that because that's one of the things you're known for. But you were busking, you were out on the streets at five, you went out with your father? I started actually when I was seven, a little bit more mature. Yeah. That's a very reasonable age to send your child out on the street to try to make money. Yes, I had a hard work ethic back in the day. And so I started playing on the streets of Kalakawa Avenue. Right, that's the big commercial district in Waikiki with all the big shops on it and restaurants, tourists walking up and down all night. Exactly. I loved it. And I kept doing it until the age of 13. Wow. And that's where one of the singers from the Don Ho show Saw Me Plain was on the streets of Waikiki. Yeah. And so I got to meet Uncle Don. I like to call him Uncle Don. Sure, I like to call him Uncle Don. Right, Uncle Don. My gosh. And he really, you know, he took me under his wing and, you know, really showed me the ropes of how much it takes to put on a show. Right. And so I was with him for five years until his passing and he really just introduced me to Waikiki. And then from there, I started touring all over the world because the ukulele, everyone, everyone loves the ukulele. I love the world. That's absolutely true. That's absolutely true. I've never met anybody. I will say though that there are certain stereotypes. It's something that people play when they can't really play and they just want to like be amusing, right? Which of these annoys you most? You know, it doesn't actually annoy me. Really? I like to use it to my advantage. How so? Because people don't expect much of you when you say you play the ukulele. Like, okay, that's, that's cute. But what do you actually do? But I love to go into that with that expectation or lack of and then change that mind frame. Right. And that's what's, that's what I like. So, so you're like a, you're like a pool shark. Yeah. How do you play this thing? Yeah, exactly. So it is true that one of the things you've done is you've really expanded people's understanding of what a ukulele can do. And I was hoping you could kind of demonstrate because you're known, for example, for some remarkable covers. You just put out a cover of Joni Mitchell's Big Gila Taxi. I did. Right. And so is there like anything like people would not expect to hear somebody play really well in a ukulele that you love to play for them? I just, I just started working on a cover of the Adams family, but in minor key. Oh, no. A minor more mournful, thoughtful key. Yes. Right. Can you, have you, can you, you guys, I want to hear like the, I haven't played it yet. So this is the theme to the Adams family. Have a minor key on the ukulele. Just learned it. Okay. Here we go. Okay. This is the hard part. Hold on. I'm working on it. I'm working on it. You know, I just thought, I thought you were going to do like smoke on the water or something, but no, some, can you do that? Hey. You really challenged her there. Wow. You can do the thing that beginning guitar players play and they pick up a guitar at the guitar center. Yes. Yes. They're like, wow. Well, Taimane, we have asked you here to play a game we're calling mini guitar meet mini golf. So, okay. You like smaller instruments. We thought we'd ask you about the tiny version of golf, miniature golf. Answer two or three questions correctly. You will win our prize for one of our listeners. Also, who is Taimane playing for? Jim Joplin of Lawton, Oklahoma. All right. All right, Oklahoma. And you know, they just love the ukulele and Oklahoma. So here's your first question. Most historians agree that miniature golf was invented in Scotland in the 1860s for one very specific reason. What was it? A, it was made for women who weren't allowed to play real golf because it was considered improper for them to raise their arms above their shoulders. B, a local aristocrat said, love the game, but we can we do without all that walking or C, so a notorious sports gambler could win a bet that he could finish a whole round of golf in half an hour. Oh gosh, you know, I'm not much of a walker myself. So I would love to say B, B, B, maybe not the vibe. No. No, it's not the vibe. You know, there's other, you know, I'm just getting this feeling of a, a, a, a, a, yes, yes. Thanks, yeah. Apparently, back in Victorian Scotland, you couldn't have ladies scandalising society by showing their pits. When in doubt, go with misogyny. Exactly. All right, that was very good. Now, back in the early days, mini golf courses used to be different than they are today. How so? Was it A, instead of mechanical obstacles like windmills, children were hired to leap onto the course and swat away your ball? B, instead of hitting your ball into the mouth of a fake clown in the last hole, you do it to a real clown? Or C, instead of turf, the surfaces were made of goat hair dyed green? You know, I just keep getting these feelings. These feelings, these feelings, where did it come? The spirit of Aloha. You know, I'm going to go with like the ocean, like the sea. The sea, why is choice being this being Hawaii? Yes, it was sea. Died goat hair was the surface of choice. This was before AstroTurf, of course. Last question. You can play thousands of mini golf courses around the world, including in some unusual places like which of these? On the lip of a volcano in Stromboli, Italy, with real lava providing some of the obstacles. B, 400 feet underground in an abandoned Transylvanian salt mine, or C, on the roof of the second tallest building in Dubai, where if your ball goes out of bounds, it really goes out of bounds. I'm going to go with B. You're going to go with the Transylvanian salt mine, you're right. It is called, wow. It is called Selena Turda and it's got a whole amusement park down there along the mini golf. It's the most popular underground tourist attraction in the world. What's it called? Selena Turda. No smart remarks, Paula. Alzo, how did Taimane do on our quiz? She's got the vibes three out of three. There you go. Taimane is a singer-songwriter and one of the world's most celebrated ukulele players for tour dates. Head to taimane.com slash live. Taimane. Taimane, everybody, do it out. Thank you, everyone. Thank you. In just a minute, Alzo reveals his worst nightmare has a food court in the Listener Liberate Challenge called 1-888-Wate-Wate Degeneres in the Air. We'll be back in a minute with more of Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me from NPR. From NPR and WBEZ Chicago, this is Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, the NPR news quiz. I'm Alzo Slade. We're playing this week with Peter Gross, Paula Poundstone, and Joyo Nicole Johnson. And here again is your host at the Blaisdale Concert Hall in Honolulu, Peter Seigold. Thank you, Alzo. Thank you, everybody. In just a minute, we go somewhere over the limbo in our Listener Liberate Challenge game. If you'd like to play, give us a call at 1-888-Wate-Wate. That's 1-888-924-8924. Right now, panel, some more questions for you from the week's news. Joyo, this week the AP reported that contrary to common wisdom, it's perfectly okay for couples to do what? Sleep in separate bedrooms? No. Vacation separately? No. This is like, I'm sure you've, I mean, anybody who's ever been married or in a get into a serious relationship has been given this advice about you and your partner. Don't do it, right? Oh, go to bed mad? Right. That's the advice. Don't go to bed angry. You have heard that. Have you heard that? I have heard that. You have heard that. Everybody's heard that. Don't go to bed angry. Well, experts say it's often much wiser to let your dispute sit till the morning. That's why right before turning off the light, you know, in my life, I always say to my wife, good night, honey. And also, have you noticed you're turning into your mother? Well, at least she goes to bed angry. Exactly. But the big question the psychologists did not address, if you do go to bed angry, the two of you instead of spooning, do you knife? You definitely don't fork. No. Or scissor. True. That's true. There's a whole drawer's worth of things that are not happening. You don't screw. There's this screw. You don't do that. No hammering. No nailing. Honey, hand me the tenderizer. Paul up this week. We learned about a new way to deepen your friendships. Instead of hanging out at a bar or a party, you should do what together? Not hang out at a bar or a party. You should till the land. Make the earth yield up its fruits. That's a thing that's happening now. People are getting together till the land. Till the land. It's actually, you're kind of on the right track. The idea is like, instead of going out and doing, like, you know, a special fun thing, you should get your friends together and do manual labor. I'm going to give it to you. Chores. I love to do chores together with other people. Is this something you like to do? So because you are like, as you always are, ahead of the curve, social trend wise. The new study says that if you really want to bond with your friends, which we all know is the key to happiness, is having a good social life, you should do boring stuff with your friends. Researchers discovered that people, quote, consistently rate common daily activities as more enjoyable when they're interacting with somebody else. You enjoy it more. You bond. It's great, you know. Absolutely. I am on the cutting edge on this. I often have friends over to help me trim the cats claws. Really? Yeah. What parts do they play? Because I've had cats. You have to, somebody has to do the clipping and someone has to kind of hold the cats paws. What do you do? What do you make them do? Well, you know, we go back and forth. I don't like to hog the fun part. Yeah. Okay. Here's the thing about cats clipping their claws. And I can't do hind claws. I can only do front claws. What's the difference? What's the difference? Well, I think, I think, as I may, the front claws are on the front claws. I know that. I think Joelle was trying to say, what is the difference besides the obvious one? I don't know. That's why you did that. I would just think it's as simple as you don't want to do the hind claws because you don't want a cat's butt in your face. No. So how many cats do you have, Paula? 11. You have 11 cats. How many friends do you have? Oh, we had to go there, didn't we? I think those two numbers are intimately related. I'm alone a lot, Peter. A lot. A woman with 11 cats is never alone, Paula. Yeah. Coming up, it's lightning fill in the blank. But first it's the game where you have to listen for the rhyme. If you'd like to play on air, call or leave a message at 1-888-WAIT-WAIT. That's 1-888-924-8924. You can see us most weeks back at the Studebaker Theatre in Chicago, or you can catch us on the road, will be in Costa Mesa, California on November 6th. For tickets and information for these events and other things we're cooking up, go to nprpresents.org. And if you like our show but wish it was about 59 minutes shorter, check out our TikTok at Wait, Wait, NPR. Hi, Yaron, wait, wait, don't tell me. Hey, Peter. This is Lydia from Seattle, Washington. Hey, beautiful Seattle. I love it there. What do you do there? Well, I like to be outside as much as possible, just like everyone else here, like the hike and backpack, all the things. When I'm not doing that, I work at a conservation agency where we protect wild lands and waters in Washington state. Thank you. That's a great thing to do. It does occur to me, since you are, of course, you're right. Everybody I know in the Pacific Northwest loves to be outside all the time. Does it ever occur to you to take advantage of that and just rifle through their homes? You know, I don't get paid very much in a nonprofit, so maybe I do need to do that. I'm telling you. Lydia, welcome to the show. Alzo Slade, filling in for Bill Curtis is going to read you three news-related lemurics with the last word or phrase missing from Egypt. If you can fill in that last word or phrase correctly, and two of the lemurics, you will be a winner. Here is your first lemurick. Since the elderly life is so plain, silver snorters speed up a slow brain. When hair looks like snow, we get down with some blow. Yes, we old folks are doing cocaine. Yes. According to data released by hospitals in the UK, the number of senior citizens abusing cocaine has risen by a third in recent years. It's true. That's why the last time you visited your nana, she asked if you were cool and wanted to get the party started. Oh my gosh. So instead of a $5 bill, it's like a rolled up $100 bill. Good for them. I would do a lot of drugs there. Right. If you hit a certain age, what are they going to do? What's the point? Cocaine is getting so popular among older people that there's now a term for them, silver snorters. And somewhere an executive at NBC just had a great idea for an amazing Golden Girls reboot. Here is your next lemurick. Stone cold sober, and yet we feel brave. Music stumping, but not in some cave. No more dark clubs at night. We dance in the light. And how the coffee gets served at our rave. Yes. Coffee raves are the latest trend among international party people. They're exactly what they sound like. Parties with DJs playing loud dance music, but it's in broad daylight with shots of espresso from the barista over there instead of alcohol at the bar. They just go to show it. It's true. You really do need a few drinks to have a good time. Can't some of those old people sell cocaine to these ones? Why not? Yeah. Sober people, unsober people, they all love these morning coffee raves. One fan called them, quote, very nice. My roommate used to go to those. Really? Yeah. They would do them on the sunrise in New York. And that's why I didn't like her. Here's your last lemurick. My dreams don't contain a cursed doll. No, I'm haunted by suburban sprawl. There are multiple floors with extinct anchor stores. My nightmares all feature a mall. Yes. Thousands of people are connecting online over having the same recurring nightmare about being trapped in a mall. This mall and their dreams is impossible to get out of because even if you can find the dream mall directory, the you are here arrow just points to your bedroom. No, that is weird. That more than one people person has that nightmare. Yeah. Well, they think it is. The users are connected to subreddit called the mall world and they share details of this terrifying space that they all visit in their dreams with levels and stairways and no way out. They are convinced that despite the fact that none of these people have met in real life, they are all dreaming about the same mall because really seriously, what are the odds that they all have a Nordstrom and a hot topic and an anti-ans? Are all these people from New Jersey? Yeah. Also, how did Lydia do in our quiz? She did great. Three out of three. Terrific. Congratulations. Nice, Lydia. Well done. Lydia, thank you so much for playing. Thanks so much for having me. Take care. Now onto our final game, lightning fill in the blank. Each of our players will have 60 seconds in which to answer as many fill in the blank questions as they can. Each correct answer now worth two points. Alzo, can you give us the scores? Of course. Joelle and Paula are tied at two with Peter in the lead at three. All right. So I'm going to arbitrarily pick Joelle to go first. Here you go, Joelle. The clock will start when they begin your first question. Fill in the blank. On Wednesday, Israel and Hamas agreed to the first phase of a plan to end the war in blank. Right. This week, the Vatican announced the dates of the new blank's first international trip. The Pope from Cleveland or Chicago? Detroit. Chicago. I said Chicago. You did. And then a number of other cities, but it is Chicago. I was in the vicinity. On Wednesday, California passed a law banning ultra processed foods from being served in public blank. School. Right. This week, the 2025 Nobel Prize winner for medicine said she blanked when the Nobel committee called her. Choked. No, she did not pick up the call because she thought it was spam. On Thursday, doctors in China performed the first ever blank to human liver transplant. Cat. Pig. Pig. Pig. Pig. Pig. Pig. Pig. Pig. Pig. Pig. Pig. Pig. Pig. Pig. Pig. Pig. Pig. You're right. Yeah. After her sister asked fans for their prayers, country legend, blank, had to release a statement saying, no, she's fine. Dolly Parton. Yes. This week, a town in the UK had to take drastic action after a blank started terrorizing citizens there. In the UK? In the UK. A white man and a white way. No. A horny swan is the answer. Oh, horny swan. According to locals, when Reggie, the Australian black swan first showed up in the town, everything was great. He got along with the other swans who lived there, even became a bit of a local tourist attraction. Sadly, things took a turn for the worse just a few weeks later when he started trying to drown all the other male swans in order to have the females to himself. Terrible news for the birds and for the people in the town, but great news for England's only swan-focused true crime podcast. Also, how did Joelle do in our quiz? She got four right, which gives her eight points with a total of 10. She is now in the lead. There you are, Joelle. For now. All right. Paula, you are up next, filling the blank on Tuesday. Former FBI Director, blank, pleaded not guilty to lying to Congress. James Coney. Right. For the first time ever, the price of blank reached $4,000 an ounce. Gold. Gold. Yes. This week, members of the Texas National Guard arrived in blank. Chicago? Yeah. On Monday, the White House directed FBI employees to urgently search for any records related to the 1937 disappearance of blank. Amelia Earhart. Right. This week, Weber State University's annual conference on censorship was canceled after presenters refused to blank. Be censored. Exactly right. On Wednesday, theme park giant blank once again raised their admission prices. Disney. Right. On Tuesday, Cristiano Ronaldo became the first billionaire player in the history of blank. Ah, Cristiano Ronaldo. Uh, soccer? Yes. This week, a street performance in India meant to warn people about the danger of stray dog attacks was interrupted by blank. Stray dog attack. Exactly right. Pretty good. There are so many stray dogs in Kerala State. The government commissioned a theater troop to put on a play about it because as we all know, theater is the most efficient way to communicate with the public. That's why we haven't had a single witch trial since the crucible. And this is true when the dog stray dog walked on stage during the play about the danger of stray dogs and bit one of the actors. The audience thought it was part of the show and applauded for the dog. That guy playing the dog did a great job. He really did. Also, I think Paula did really, really well. Paula got a lot, bro. She got eight right for 16 points with a total of 18. Way out front. You didn't miss one. She did not miss one. That was remarkable. All right then. So how many does Peter need to win? Peter needs eight to win. Here you go, Peter. This is for the game. On Tuesday, President Trump suggested he may withhold back pay owed to workers affected by the blank. The shut down. Right. On Monday, renewables overtook blank as the world's biggest source of energy. Overtook like oil and gas. Yeah, fossil fuels. This week, a man was arrested in connection with starting the Palisades wildfire that burned through blank early this year. Los Angeles. Right. Under pressure from the White House, the Justice Department has indicted New York Attorney General Blank. This is James. Right. During an interview celebrating how he was turning 100 in just two months, Dick Van Dyke said blank. I regret everything. No. He said, quote, it would be pretty funny if he didn't make it. On Monday, electric car company blank unveiled cheaper models of their two most popular cars. The one that makes those dumb trucks. Tesla. Yeah. According to new data, tariffs have greatly increased the cost of blank costumes. Halloween costumes. This week, a man who was ticketed for talking in his phone while driving had the ticket voided because it turns out the phone was blank. It was an Altoids box. No, it was a candy bar and he wasn't talking on it. He was eating it. Man was pulled over by police. They caught him talking in his phone while driving against the law there, but he said he wasn't on the phone at all. He was just eating a candy bar and it would have worked too, at least until his stomach started ringing. Alzo did. Peter Gros do well enough to win. Nope. Peter got Peter got six right. 12 points. Total of 16. Paula is the champion. And just a minute, our panelists are going to predict what will be the controversial song on Taylor Swift's next album. But first, let me tell you all that. Wait, wait, don't tell me. 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